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1095767 No. 1095767 ID: e25c20

This is the continuation of the second chapter of the Chasing Shadows and Hunting Rats.

Chapter 1

https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/1067335.html

Chapter 2 part 1

https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/1082765.html

Discussion Thread

https://questden.org/kusaba/questdis/res/140583.html
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No. 1099923 ID: 27fceb

8 don't like it that the c option is a recurring motive, not to mention that the other suggestion has been wired. Bobbie are you feeling alright?
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No. 1099978 ID: 207b18
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1099978

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell him that he is bluffing.

B) Take cover behind your chair.

C) Ignore how much you hate humanity.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100030 ID: da40bf

Get ready to dodge if need be. "Even if you had good intentions rather than an avaricious desire for the castle, even if you did manage to end my existence, death would solve nothing. What future would you build Dredge? Do you even have a vision beyond my end?"
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No. 1100032 ID: c5529d

D, we will have to lie our way through by making them think that Abdle is not with us, since from their perception, it is only a gold apple that we have, while also playing into Heartbeat's fear of this becoming an escalation with the battles expanding to his territory.

Remind Iron Dredge that Heartbeat does not want to escalate the conflict and have his warriors dragged into this, and killing you here is a surefire way to have that happen, as for one thing, Abdle is not with you, as you knew something like this could happen. So killing you here will not stop your kingdom at all, nor will it solve anything for him as Abdle will still be alive and in control of things at your kingdom and the conflict won't stop. In fact, killing you here will only force Abdle's hand himself and escalate the conflict from possible misunderstanding.
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No. 1100037 ID: 6c233e

D) counter-bluff. "You know if it was that simple to defeat me, Ramming Rage would have done it."

Thank Heartbeat for going to the trouble of setting this up, but it seems that it was a waste of time.
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No. 1100040 ID: 27fceb

He is just trying to intimidate you, I don't think that he truly believes that he will be able to kill us with an axe swing. He is losing influence in this room and is desperate to take control in any way
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No. 1100113 ID: 6a5cc1
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1100113

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell him that Abdle is here.

B) Tell him that Abdle is not here.

C) Tell him that it is none of his business.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100127 ID: 682ca3

B. Like I said, this is likely why Wormworks turned him gold, to hide Abdle from Iron Dredge. So we gotta pretend hes not here.
Tell him the best thing about having two people ruling a kingdom is that one person can take care of business in one place, while the other can take care of other business in another place. But you do apologize that he couldnt be here today. So much to do, so little time.

This will make you appear responsible hardworking royals to Heartbeat and the leaf leader
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No. 1100130 ID: 682ca3

Alternatively, another idea could be D: tell him you won't answer his question about the demon apple until he answers your question he refused to answer. You are not giving answers willy-nilly that easily.

he did mention not wanting to answer our question to give us ammo against him, so it must be too important to not let us know.

Of course, we still won't let him know the truth that Abdle is with us. Instead, we can just tell him where the decoy is located at.
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No. 1100152 ID: b138f1

"One for one? We each have a question so we take turns." Give one of Will's responses.
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No. 1100154 ID: 6ed133

A fair exchange would be the best way to learn a little bit about him while answering his questions.
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No. 1100169 ID: 6c233e

>>1100127
I would second this
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No. 1100205 ID: 6a5cc1
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1100205

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Answer his question.

B) Don't answer his question.

C) Try to change the subject.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100220 ID: 9cf8d5

Well credit where it's due. Worthy goal to have people with destructive personalities be channeled to positive goals. We hope that you realize soon we are not a negative thing to be eliminated. Per your question Abdle is busy during these negotiations. Having co-rulers does mean things can be done in two places at once (zero lies even if it is very misleading - he's busy "changing" and the second sentence is just a fact but not in use). Just as you have a responsibility to your people so do we. So here's our followup. Since the castle was abandoned it would have dilapidated without people to maintain its status. We are doing you a free service and we would be willing to allow the landlord to visit freely so as to assure we are not up to no good. Why do you object to our tenancy and given our need for a place to stay do you have ideas for where we could go where our people would be safe as we would be in the castle?
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No. 1100223 ID: 6c233e

A) Abdle is busy with other matters, thats all. And for the record, we were sold the castle under false pretenses. If it hadn't appeared completely abandoned we wouldn't have taken it.
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No. 1100235 ID: 2e49be

A. Let him know the location of the decoy. Dont let him know Abdle is here. It will make Bobbie appear she is a woman of her word to everyone here

Here is the game plan, we have to pretend that we want to make ammends with iron Dredge, so try not to be too accusatory or confrontational. The goal is to make Heartbeat and leaf leader think we are the ones trying to make things work while Iron Dredge is being unreasonable and incompetent, and will make them trust us more if conflict inevitably does break out.

That said, say something along the lines of
"ah, so you forgive those who has committed evil acts and give them a second chance to redeem themselves for their actions by allowing them to work with you. That's honorable of you. In that case, you wouldnt be opposed to forgive us for our actions and allow us another chance to redeem ourselves by letting our two kingdoms to work together then?"

This might put him on the spot, if he declines, he shows himself to Leaf Leader and Heartbeat as a liar if hes willing to bring in and trust people who has done terrible deeds enough to get exiled but not us who had similarly done something evil in his eyes, and that he may have ulterior motives
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No. 1100329 ID: 27fceb

Tell him, we're not so different you and I.
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No. 1100353 ID: 8fff14
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1100353

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Talk with Heartbeat.

B) Try to talk with Dredge.

C) The thought of hating humans is coming back.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100355 ID: ad0f7c

Have you forgotten we are guests? We are only allowed to stay by the will of the one hosting us. Heartbeat he has respect for you so perhaps he'd be less opposed to proposals from you rather than us?
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No. 1100371 ID: 239831

Doing good so far, Bobbie. He gave us ammo to work with with his own lies if we want to show Heartbeat and Leaf Leader that Iron Dredge is untrustworthy to work with.

I think the direction we have to go now is to try and show that Iron Dredge have a more ulterior motive than just get rid of monsters, and there is something one of his followers did that proves that isn't just the case

Tell him "even if I did what you say and let my monster followers die and instead live with the peasants in the town in order to work with you, how can I trust you won't just attack the villagers after, especially when you had your cat theif terrorize them the other day? and might I add they are human villagers, not monsters. Is you refusing to settle our differences really all because you want to rid of my monsters living near the village? Or is that just an excuse and there something else you're purposely not revealing to us all here considering the fact you're harming the human villagers too?
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No. 1100374 ID: 27fceb

We got this negotiations in the bag, nobody likes Dredge and how things might play out he is not making it easy for himself to he more likeable.
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No. 1100380 ID: 6c233e

If he doesn't want to talk then so be it. Time to continue negotiating with Heartbeat. No doubt dredge will keep interrupting and making a nuisance of himself, but that just makes you look better.
If he tries to berate you anymore just tell him that you won't listen to someone who would ask you to betray your people.
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No. 1100403 ID: 01d95d
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1100403

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) ...............

B) ...............

C) ...............

D) No other suggestions.
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No. 1100404 ID: 6c233e

That's only a half truth. We threatened your son, but he went and got himself killed all on his own. Back alley doctors will do that to ya.

We won't apologize for defending ourselves, but it is regrettable how things turned out. He was a true warrior, defiant to the end. IF we can do anything to honor his memory please let us know.

(shouldn't mention this in front of dredge, but archer can corroborate our side of the story.)
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No. 1100419 ID: d8e7b9

Wow good thing we avoided credit in his death. So all we have to do is give our official line and...
>Option D
Hah well played DeVoid you glorious bastard, slightly railroad-y but good tension added. Well no suggestions to Bobbie? Fine. Wormworks you know our official line. Would you do the honors?
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No. 1100422 ID: 0d05ce

>>1100404
Sounds like the way to go,

But if we can't suggest this for some reason as D dictated, then the druid (wormworks) will have to help her out of this mess.

Wormworks, can you hear us? I think Bobbie is shocked into beinf speechless, so I would like for you to bring the Archer in and have him tell everyone what he witnessed in the exchange. Immediatly tell everyone you actually spoke with a witness (the archer) of what happened, and you can bring him in to speak about what he witnessed. Thanks.
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No. 1100430 ID: 0d05ce

>>1100419
This was a good idea too, though him speaking for us about what happened might make the others suspicious since he's pretending to be a druid of heatbeat in no way associated to us, which is why I am going in the direction of asking him to invite the archer un to speak for us as a witness.
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No. 1100444 ID: 27fceb

Bobbie you need to focus, snap out of this confusion right now. We need to deny the death of Ramming Rage don't lose the control of this negotiations.
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No. 1100447 ID: c5529d

y'know, I was doing some thinking, and I might be misremembering the curse, so correct me if I'm wrong: but what if the reason Iron Dredge thinks there is no curse is because he thinks Ramming Rage was killed by us during battle at our territory, and no curse happened since it was assumed fight that happened at our territory? might be something to keep in mind if true if he is confusing what happened there was a battle, and not a session of mind games like it actually was.

I'll end with some pep talk to Bobbie too, yes, this is a bad situation, but I will say with this path of becoming an overlord, there's going to be plenty of bad situations like this in the future, as well as good. And as far as this bad situation goes, while it is a curveball, it is not the worst situation as far as bad situations go. As one of us spirits said, you didn't take credit for his death earlier, so this situation could have actually gone a lot worse. Believe me, I've helped an extremely unlucky person before, and it was unbelievable the amount of trouble she couldn't get out of was. Compare to that, this is nothing more than a setback that we can easily get out of.

and if you need time to compose yourself, Wormworks, and hopefully maybe Archer even will vouch for you here.
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No. 1100451 ID: 1e46c7

>>1100430
Eh, he said he spoke to the villagers so he could have "heard" we denied credit for rage's death while there. Does explain why rage opted for diplomacy though. He feared the curse hitting his people.
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No. 1100462 ID: c5529d

good point.
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No. 1100522 ID: e12dd1
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1100522

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Make it 500 coins and he is all yours.

B) He is not for sale!

C) It is up to him to choose that.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100527 ID: c5529d

hmmmm... not voting yet as I want to hear what others say, but I'm thinking this could be a good opportunity for Victorio the archer to play double agent here, pretend he's joining Iron Dredge, and he can get a good idea of what Iron Dredge is planning on the inside. This is all considering he did Bobbie's test with the needle earlier.
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No. 1100530 ID: 6c233e

>>1100527
Dredge seems rather unhinged, I wouldn't expect archer to last long. Would probably be executed as an example weather dredge thinks he's sincere or not.

Lets not humor this rambling. Tell Dredge he should be making this offer to Archer, then walk away. Its up to Archer if he follows you or not.
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No. 1100566 ID: 27fceb

A) maybe we can sell him and when we beat his boss we get him back for free.
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No. 1100722 ID: 0588f8

Well wormworks blew his cover with the second part of what he said. First part may have been excused by saying he spoke with the now named follower of ours. Oh well. We know dredge does kill people who leave so no gambling with his life. "Do you see him as mere property dredge? We see him as a free being. We'll prove it too. He may think his life is worth a getting us a few coins. He'd be wrong. So he is yours for free if you convince him to join your side. Otherwise we have no deal. Let's see if his new life is worth more than you ever offered."
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No. 1100781 ID: 3ea4ff
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1100781

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Deny that allegation.

B) Admit it.

C) Think of a lie.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100783 ID: 94f70b

B) it's a simple precaution, taken not because he is human but because only a day before he loosed an arrow at her face. A precaution he agreed to, fully free to walk away.

(Now would be a great time, if you have a needle and good slight of hand, to pretend to remove the needle from his heart. A show of trust and goodwill, and it was all a bluff anyway so no advantage lost.)

(Say, I wonder if sharp fingernails count as a weapon to the curse. Can you just attempt to scratch someone to move your hand through them? Could be useful.)
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No. 1100784 ID: 395e7c

Oh you screwed up big dredge. "How misleading of you dredge. First we'd remove it if he decided to leave our service. Second he had the option to object when we did so. Did you object at all? Oh and here's a followup that would be very telling. Would you have allowed rage or dredge to do the exact same thing if they asked?
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No. 1100802 ID: c5529d

I think Heartbeat is too exhausted from these arguments that Iron Dredge has been trying to start, especially since Iron Dredge is inconsiderately using his son's death to paint him in a good light, and having an argument over this will probably piss off Heartbeat. Lets try to bring the floor back to Heartbeat by keeping this argument brief and to the point and immediately change the subject back to what Heartbeat was about to say.

Simply say that the archer did attack first, so it's common sense to want to take precautions like that. Can we please get back to what Heartbeat was going to say, he's our host after all.
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No. 1100962 ID: 27fceb

Tell Dredge that he was responsible for the death of Ramming Rage. We can use that lie like this: "When he wanted to leave Dredge didn't want for that to happen so he killed him."
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No. 1101016 ID: 3ea4ff
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1101016

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell everyone in this room just how much you hate humanity.

B) Tell everyone in this room just how much you hate humanity.

C) Tell everyone in this room just how much you hate humanity.

D) No other suggestions.
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No. 1101017 ID: c5529d

We will really really need to have a sitdown talk with Bobbie and train her to keep her emotions under control once we get freetime.

But for right now, I think the Archer Victorio needs to step up now. we need him to immediately do something to interrupt Bobbie before she blows up on everyone

Victorio, can you hear us? I need you to defend your, and Bobbie's honor before she says something she might regret in her anger. If you've been listening, Dredge has earlier called you a "worthless human" when he tried to buy you off of Bobbie, and his wife has now been calling you "weak" You are none of those,

but where they see weakness, Bobbie saw strength in you, enough to have you join her. I want you to immediately speak out against the insults they said about you, and why you continue to follow Bobbie. And if you can, be assertive, and angered in your response, I need you to be angry in your response so Bobbie doesn't have to and can calm down, at least enough to regain her composure to make rational thoughts. Thanks, man.
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No. 1101028 ID: a2cc2c

I didn't know that the pyromancer was the wife of the Dredge, well at least that explains why Ramming didn't beat her up. I like Will-O'-Liquid's suggestion, Worm Works can you back up Victorio when he starts being angry? We need Bobbie to be distracted from her rage.
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No. 1101029 ID: 50a6fb

Oof it's bad if Gray is the one talking sense. Hey Vittorio. Should probably get to her questions now. Did you object to the needle? Would you let rage or dredge do the needle thing if they could and asked? Should that fail Bobbie could follow up with "Just because I dislike Humans means nothing. People who cooperate can hate the person they do a job with. Obviously because they get more done. Which means more for both."
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No. 1101043 ID: 6c233e

Dredge really do seem obsessed with human superiority. Something along the lines of "just because we aren't treating humans as some divine beings doesn't mean we hate them" would be a good counter.
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No. 1101129 ID: 9246cb
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1101129

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Yes!

B) Yes yes.

C) Yeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

D) YESYESYEYSYEYSYEYSYES!

E) Yes......yes

F) .......no......

G) Yes!?

H) Yes!

I) Yes yes yes!
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No. 1101135 ID: c86a5c

...Victorio if you leave you'll have a Grand Marshal at your side... Just have this to say Bobbie. Hypocritical of you to eliminate untame humans (meaning ones you have no command of) for eliminating things they see as untamed. Such excessive hypocrisy is concerning. Won't dig you out of this one. Either you stop with the hypocrisy and dig yourself out of this hole or dig yourself too deep to leave.
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No. 1101137 ID: c5529d

Time to do damage control, and really really need to teach Bobbie meditation when we get back (if she survives), it'll do her good.

At least you got it out of your system (hopefully). So for now, for damage control, you'll just have to own up to it.

I think for now, E will have to do, as going with F will just make Bobbie at this point look like a pathetic liar, especially after she poured her heart and soul about wanting to kill humanity. With E, having the Ellipsis between "Yes......yes" at least implies that she doesn't necessarily want it to be the case, and she still wants her faith in humanity to be restored.

Bobbie needs to explain that she doesn't WANT this decision to be the case, but at this moment, she at least TRYING to see the good in humanity. However right now, Heartbeat and the Headsplitters killing all goblins on sight without actually talking it out with their leader like Heartbeat is trying to have her and Iron Dredge do, and Iron Dredge's insistence in wanting to kill all of monsterkind and not making any actual effort to try to talk things out and work out an agreement and instead try to make her out to be the most horrible person in the world is not making it easier for her.

She also needs to make it a point that maybe that's why she hired the archer in the first place, she wants to see that maybe just maybe, he can restore the faith in humanity that she lost one day, as she was human once too.

We'll also need to point out that if we can't work out a deal with Heartbeat because of her hatred with humanity, she has to at least try to have Heartbeat cut ties with Iron Dredge, cause having both of them work together against Bobbie is not going to go well. She needs to remind Heartbeat that although she's racist against humans, and if he can't work out some kind of deal with her because of it, she is not exactly sure how anyone can work with Iron Dredge as well, especially after he has shown that he has been untrustworthy, doing things like not telling Heartbeat about his son's passing until now when it's most convenient, and instead wanting him to send more people into his army, and having his minions doing horrible things to the village near the castle Bobbie resides in.
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No. 1101148 ID: 27fceb

Well Bobbie use this experience to reflect on your actions, your opponent got exactly what he wanted from you. He got inside your head and pushed you, do not let that happen again.
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No. 1101149 ID: 6c233e

What is your main goal Bobbie? Isn't it to protect your people? That's the only course that will get you out of this conversation looking like anything less than a genocidal maniac.

Worm Works, get that hand off your face. If you hadn't messed with Abdle we wouldn't be in this situation.
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No. 1101153 ID: 64b993

Agreed, please don't face palm, Wormworks. This will make things worse if they catch your actions and call you out and accuse you of working with us. We will help Bobbie out of this mess, don't worry. Iron Dredge made much more big mistakes in this meeting after all. This was only our first one all things considered

>If you hadn't messed with Abdle we wouldn't be in this situation.

Let's not play the blame game for now, directing anger on someone else instead of focusing on the problem is counterintuitive. Let's focus on the situation at hand. We can talk about the errors everyone made here after everything is done here, and how to proceed in the future
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No. 1101279 ID: 9246cb
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1101279

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Agree with the Druid.

B) Disagree with the Druid.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1101282 ID: c5529d

golden opportunity you say, Wormworks?

Hmm... golden opportunity... Golden Abdle... Gray Opportunity... is Wormworks hinting at handing over the golden apple to Heartbeat to borrow as a show of "gratitude"?

Gray Opportunity can manipulate people that holds Abdle, we seen that happen to Nasty when she held him. Honestly I've been considering that idea for a while, but was too unsure, but it feels like the vibe is now that's the direction Wormworks wants us to take.

We have to not make it too obvious that Gray Opportunity will be manipulating Heartbeat though, like having Gray Opportunity make Heartbeat too agreeable with us, or downright reject Iron Dredge automatically, or else Iron Dredge might get suspicious of everything and the apple.

Gray opportunity can have Heartbeat return Abdle to us a little later after the meeting, and if that don't work, Wormworks can get him back for us, considering he's an undercover mole within the Headsplitters as a druid.

A (might actually be C): Show sign of gratitude by handing over the golden apple to Heartbeat as a gift to show appreciation for a second chance.

I mean, we did tell Nasty earlier it was going to be a gift for Heartbeat anyways
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No. 1101291 ID: 0e53e8

>>1101282 ...Well. Have been looking for a way to do this. Only one person here desires a fight which of course is dredge. Gray can you subtly -emphasis on subtle - point out this? Get a feel for how far he'd be willing to go to stop this? We are in his camp surrounded by his people. Just nudge him towards the obvious way to stop this. Just avoid going too fast because he may see what is going on if you do.
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No. 1101301 ID: 6c233e

This is a cockamamie scheme that puts Abdle at incredible risk.

Better to play dumb. Yes, a golden opportunity for a generous... trade deal!
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No. 1101350 ID: 27fceb

>>1101282
Maybe we can be a little bit subtle with our approach. Go for a handshake with Heartbeat and with your other hand put the golden apple in his pocket.
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No. 1101399 ID: 9246cb
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1101399

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Do it.

B) Don't do it.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1101402 ID: 6f8677

Patience. For now. We suddenly bring up rage and her accusation of mind influence will have credence. So far dredge has dug his own grave and we've hardly had to provide the shovel. Subtlety is key here. Just make Bobbie's words look better and dredge's worse. He IS a self-admitted liar while Bobbie has spoke truth even when it was negative to do so. Just wait for dredge to screw up with his blustering and that's when to make a move on his mind.
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No. 1101413 ID: a2cc2c

We better not push our luck, we are in his mind that will give us a solid hint in which direction to push but not make it too obvious. For now, we wait and see what our opponent will do.
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No. 1101471 ID: 6c233e

Just knowing what he's thinking is enough. Assure him he doesn't need to pick a side, we simply don't want to fight. Let Dredge be the pushy one demanding action, just like he sent Rage into unnecessary conflict to then die.
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No. 1101526 ID: c5529d

Can't be too greedy and influence his thoughts too early, especially since Iron Dredge's wife already is paranoid about Heartbeat getting near us. We can do it a little later though when suspicion of that has died down

probably the direction to go with this information is to make it look like Iron Dredge sent Heartbeat's son on a throwaway pointless mission like an errandboy and less of a hero.
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No. 1101528 ID: c5529d

But yeah, I think the direction to go with Heartbeat's son is to try to make it look like that Iron Dredge sent Ramming Rage not to offer a deal with us like a hero would do, but more to start a conflict with us.
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No. 1101529 ID: 9246cb
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1101529

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Put in the mind of Heartbeat that Dredge wants to kill him.

B) Tell Heartbeat that Dredge wants to kill him.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1101532 ID: c5322d

Dredge is threatening to tattle? Well dead men tell no tales... Living in fear of reprisal is living on your knees. When a greater threat shows itself petty squabbles lead to ruin and downfall. What you do in the face of such things is not divide by petty things but set aside feuds and unite. Dredge will never see that because he is a mercenary loyal to coin while we are leaders with homes and people to defend. (Pivot to rage who did have a home to defend and thus attempted to avoid the land's curse affecting his home at all costs?)
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No. 1101539 ID: a2cc2c

It is better for him to conclude that he is being marked for death than for us to tell him that, so Gray put that idea in his head.
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No. 1101610 ID: 9246cb

https://questden.org/kusaba/questdis/res/140583.html#143199

A Christmas present for all the participants of the Rotten Apple Quest.
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No. 1101623 ID: 63709c

>>1101539
But be subtle about it. Just the hint that Dredge might kill him and let it grow naturally from there.
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No. 1101657 ID: 9246cb
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1101657

Possible answers to the first question:

A) Push Heartbeat's mind more into the rage.

B) Tell Heartbeat that he should be angry.

C) Do the both.

D) Other suggestions.


Possible answers to the second question:

A) Ignore what Dredge's wife.

B) Give her a witty response.

C) Insult her.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1101658 ID: 64c536

Dredge just insulted him again by berating his parenting skills. Wow he is bad at this. We don't have to do a thing do we? Perhaps even the mind influence is unneeded. "Pyro. Hire a diplomat if you'd like to avoid this. Which of course you're not going to do because then you'll have done a thing I 'manipulated' you into doing. Since you're not going to do what I say then do this: de-escalate and stop with these accusations? Since if you did you'd fall for my evil trap." Well, only if you can say all that without lots of laughing.
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No. 1101677 ID: 6c233e

A monster was he? So that really is Dredge's world view, any who disagree with him are monsters. Can you really be allies with someone like that Heartbeat, just one argument away from being marked as worthy of death.

As for Pyro just give her the most pitying stare you can muster. The pair of them's attempts at diplomacy are just sad now.
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No. 1101700 ID: 27fceb

The relationship between Heartbeat and Dredge is degenerating by every second. We don't even need to say anything or manipulate his mind. Just let nature take its course, as for the Pyromancer, ask if she likes getting fucked by Dredge. I can imagine that it's a painful experience for her.
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No. 1101808 ID: b9c033
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1101808

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Push Heartbeat into killing Dredge.

B) Don't do that.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1101815 ID: 6c233e

B) one; you think Heartbeat and whoever he has on hand can take on a mercenary leader and pyromancer together?

Two; we're right there, in prime burning range of a pyromancer who hates us.

three; I don't trust this gropportunity, he's the picture of devil-on-your-shoulder
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No. 1101862 ID: 27fceb

Gray calm down and stick to our plan. Heartbeat has a possibility to become our allay but all of that goes out the window if we make him kill our opponent.
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No. 1101865 ID: 7e654e

...Gray there is no de-escalation at this point so let it go on as-is. However you do have authorization for re-escalation if it seems de-escalation is ongoing. Heartbeat has to believe it was his idea to have dredge offed. Even if he regrets it later it's on him not us.
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No. 1101951 ID: b9c033
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1101951

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell the pyromancer that you are sad for her loss.

B) Tell the pyromancer that you are glad that Dredge is dead.

C) Ask Heartbeat if he is feeling alright.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1101959 ID: 6c233e

Okay, that was surprisingly easy. Watch out for Pyro's reaction. If that really was Dredge then she's probably going to freak out and start burning people, starting with Bobbie.

Anyway, ask Heartbeat what's next, now that he's made an enemy of the bulls.
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No. 1101964 ID: 27fceb

Ask Heartbeat how he is feeling, we can use this concern to check if Gray Oppertunity has influenced his mind.
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No. 1102039 ID: b9c033
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1102039

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Try to intimidate him.

B) Try to flatter him.

C) Try to make fun of him.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1102041 ID: 27fceb

If you truly are unstoppable, then why did you come here to ask the tribe leader to give you some of his people to join your army?
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No. 1102043 ID: 6c233e

A fatal blow, you say? So if someone cut off your arms it wouldn't come back? hmmmm

Also how was it getting decaped? Did it hurt?
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No. 1102047 ID: c5529d

B. One thing for sure is that he seems to have a pretty big ego that we can stroke for information. We'll have to commend him for his status as a hero, and this invulnerability he apparently has if we want to put him in a position he can't dig out of.

I wanna hear more about the amulet, He's probably right about the phoenix amulet's power, but why does it feels like it has its weaknesses he's not telling us about.

I feel like if it is truly something that can make him invincible, he should be able to do a lot more things without the help of an army as >>1102041 puts it, or do some very helpful things only a "invincible" hero can do for the other villagers long ago, like saaaaay: try to kill the "unstoppable" monster deer that is threatening the headsplitters village like a hero he claims to be? That amulet seems like a powerful tool that could make it impossible for him to lose against an opponent like that deer. But yet, as a ally of the headsplitters, why hasn't he done something like that long ago?

Tell him that is an impressive artifact he has on him, and with that, he could do so many things a mere, or even a very powerful warrior only wishes to accomplish. You think as a hero with something like that, he can do something to save this village from something that has been plaguing it for a long time: hunting down the unstoppable monster deer that has been terrorizing the forest? You think doing something like that could truly gain respect from the Headsplitters as they have never truly been able to take it down, and it's looking like his power granted to him by the amulet makes him pretty much the only person here who can take that monstrosity down.

This will probably put him into a position where he has to explain why he won't or hasn't done something like that a long time ago, and we might get more information about the amulet this way, or he might start fibbing, in which case, we can look for contradictions and dig deeper to find the truth about that power.
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No. 1102065 ID: fd7f7d

Sounds like we should steal or destroy the amulet he has. Preferably steal. Or capture him alive and let him rot in a cell. "So that's why you were so unafraid of insulting our host regardless of consequences." (Which will subtly remind our host why he was so mad.) >>1102041 Good catch. "Still it does beg the question of why you ask your fellow humans to die in your service when you can handle things with no risk at all. Seems rather heartless." Either he spills more details or he effectively admits he sacrifices people for nothing. Which may include heartbeat's kid. Favorite type of plan is one where we win even if we lose.
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No. 1102122 ID: b9c033
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1102122

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) He is trying to distract you.

B) He is up to something.

C) He is losing his mind.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1102123 ID: 55e8b5

Gray, I wanted to say you did a tremendous job back there with your manipulation. Great work!

A. To me, this feels like a distraction and he's trying to change the subject. Dont let him.

My guess: I think something is preventing him from killing Bobbie for whatever reason, and if I had to make a guess, the reason has something to do with the amulet maybe.
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No. 1102125 ID: 27fceb

D) All the above. He is acting strange, until now he didn't even laugh and now he is like an Ace Attorney villain who is having breakdown. I don't know what to expect from him at this point. The only thing that I can suggest is to brace your for anything to happen.
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No. 1102126 ID: e98161

Gray if you wish to be heard more you gotta temper your ruthlessness with being pragmatic about things. Per Dredge, we hit a nerve so seems like he's losing his mind. Still - never underestimate an enemy as rage did. Just be ready if he is up to no good. Option 2 is advised.
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No. 1102138 ID: 6c233e

Grop, you're practically a stranger still, give her time to trust you.

C) that's not even the question that was asked. But maybe this is just an act? Ask him if he has his head on straight. Maybe Heartbeat should cut it off again so he can get it right.
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No. 1102155 ID: b9c033
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1102155

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Stay at the meeting.

B) Retreat to the castle.
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No. 1102157 ID: c5529d

Good thinking, Gray Opportunity, I agree. We must stay. Plus, the cat took the bait and most likely will take our decoy if it's true. We expected this to happen from the start. I doubt she is going to attack anyone at the castle either, she's more of a stealthy thief.

Everything is falling right into place. All our hard work in this meeting managed to win us Heartbeat's support if him attempting to behead Iron Dredge is anything to go by, and now distrusts Iron Dredge. I think when given the choice, he will choose to fight for us over Iron Dredge now if a war breaks out.

A. This is where you get angry to sell the idea that Abdle is at the castle and not with us, but to also officially start this fight with Iron Dredge with the Headsplitters on our side. Yell at him that you and Heartbeat was hoping some kind of agreement could have happened, but his actions of kidnapping Abdle rip any chances of a peace taking place between you two, and this is now a declaration of war!
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No. 1102158 ID: 27fceb

A brave leader once said: some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make. My vote is for option A.
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No. 1102165 ID: 3091c7

Let's have the opposite reaction he'd expect of us. Plus a little lying so he draws false conclusions. "Oh that's all? Dredge you underestimate my people. Even if she doesn't get taken prisoner she'll never get to the secret room he's using." Do you guys have extra lies to add? Gray that includes you too. Either way we have a crucial follow up. "Oh and nice attempt to dodge the question we posed. So to encourage compliance we'll worsen it as you evade. Did you demand people - your fellow humans - from Heartbeat who would die in your service?" Further evades will get the question worse. Did you risk the curse affecting these people with the demand? Did you let rage be one of those who died in your service? He can't squirm outta this.
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No. 1102168 ID: 6c233e

A) time to bluff that we're bluffing. Scoff and say that the front door is hardly our only line of cat defense. We are quite prepared for his little sneak thief.

And I want to say this now; if Dredge gets his head cut off again grab it and run
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No. 1102191 ID: b9c033
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1102191

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Stay at the meeting.

B) Retreat to the castle.
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No. 1102195 ID: c5529d

(edited)
A. Stay at the meeting. Cat can't do anything to hurt our people, because of the curse. He's trying to scare us away from the topic of the amulet and avoiding our questions we've asked earlier before he brought up the cat being in our castle,

Besides, even if we retreat, and the curse doesn't do anything, it'll already be too late if we retreated now.

get back talking about the amulet and challenge him to fight you here and now like last time, and again ask why he even needed an army and have his humans die for him if he is invulnerable. He still hasn't answered those questions, and even if the cat is at our castle, this is still a distraction Iron Dredge is attempting to steer us away from it. Stay vigilant.
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No. 1102197 ID: c5529d

Hell, you can even remind him of the curse, and call him a freakin' moron before we get back to the question(s) that he's trying desperately to avoid answering.
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No. 1102198 ID: 27fceb

I fucking called it, I already suspected that the cat would play her stealth mission like a crazy psychopath. Stay, no matter what he says to you just stay, he is trying to bait you to leave, do not let him do that. He is trying to get in your head, just be calm and insult him for using a cat, instead of fighting you himself.
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No. 1102199 ID: ad0f7c

He really wants to avoid the topic bad. "Well now I know you're evading on purpose. Desperate to get me to leave. Desperately squirming in a corner with no way to escape. Only your word - a self-admitted liar's word - being proof of your claims. Won't be fooled. Get to talking."
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No. 1102207 ID: 6c233e

Wait half? That earlier force with Rage was half his troops? What a show of incompetence.

Anyway rushing off won't help. If our people can't handle one sneak then it would be too late by the time we got there.
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