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1082765 No. 1082765 ID: dc13c4

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No. 1082766 ID: dc13c4
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) First we should test the loyalty of the Archer.

B) First we should go to the village.

C) First we should finish the village leader's assessment.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1082793 ID: 58eb36

Save the assessing for last so Gram has the most time to make things look good. Out of the other two... loyalty of the archer would be useful. We could have him join Dredge as an inside man if he passes.
No. 1082801 ID: 5ebd37

Aye, lets not keep the poor boy waiting. Whatever we have him do should be done publicly, since opinion of him is currently quite low. He'll be proving himself not just to us, but to all our followers.
No. 1082813 ID: 55d88a

No. 1082854 ID: 27fceb

Test of loyalty
Is our main priority.

As for your literacy failure don't be embarrassed by it, embrace it as an issue that you will overcome.
No. 1082877 ID: dc13c4
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Let the sister attend the meeting.

B) Don't let the sister attend the meeting.

C) Other suggestions.
No. 1082890 ID: 47c854

Let her attend. Just warn her that if she gets too out of line like she did she will be punished. She'll get leeway of course. We want to know if our plans are bad. She'll keep her council seat but showing poor judgement at a high level has to have consequences even if it's so minor that we have to dole out a wrist slapping. Which applies to everyone at the council.
No. 1082920 ID: 5ebd37

A) but if she keeps acting up we'll have to make her wear a jester's outfit.
No. 1082923 ID: e51896

this, because lol!
No. 1082931 ID: 27fceb

What is the worst that can happen if we let her attend this meeting, so let her be present
No. 1083023 ID: dc13c4
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Describe all the events in a frustrating tone.

B) Describe all the events in a tired tone.

C) Describe all the events in a matter-of-fact tone.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1083026 ID: e9dcf5

Well matter-of-fact would sound heartless. Our rat died, rage died... but just unsure which of the other two would be appropriate. Will leave this to others.
No. 1083034 ID: e51896

Oh, Gram, Gram, Gram... that was supposed to be an outfit you have to wear as punishment... but now that I think about it, I think it's actually a good idea that Gram is wearing the jester outfit for this meaning. if Gram acts out, hey, that just means it'll be something our guest expects from Gram. Perhaps we should consider switching Gram's job to court jester depending on how things go here,

I say D, Other. Spread out and change the tone of your voice appropriate to each of the events that you went through. I think the key here is to not describe ALL events with just ONE singular tone throughout, but to tell certain events with a tone that would be appropriate for the different events we tell. As >>1083026 said, we don't want to come off as heartless if we describe all events as matter of factly, especially when describing what happened to our first casualty, but we also don't want to come across as weak if we explain all the events as tired or frustrating

for example, for the death of our spy mouse, our first casualty, have a tone be regretful and melancholic, and then a tone of determination when explaining that you will make sure that their death will not be for naught when Dredge eventually comes to confront us. for talking about ramming rage, have a frustrated tone about how disrespectful he was with how he would have treated your goblins if you sent some to him, and having to settle the resulting fight, but change the tone to one of confidence when explaining about dealing with the problem without casualties on your side. Things like receiving the gift of apples from a villager should be happy for another example
No. 1083042 ID: 5ebd37

Wa ha ha, Gramleza has fallen for our trap. Now everyone will expect disrespect from her, her actions will have less bite to them.

I would say (B), its been a harrowing time, with more trouble on its way. But there's much reason to hope as well. So just a mildly tired tone.
No. 1083219 ID: 27fceb

Let's describe it all in the matter-of-fact, it won't show us as heartless but more that despite everything we still are standing strong.
No. 1083291 ID: c7b6a1
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) This brooch is a good thing.

B) This brooch is a bad thing.

C) Other suggestions.
No. 1083292 ID: 5ea742

Honestly it changes little. We fight - if he dies, other heroes get a shot at us. Still, perhaps it does help in an unlikely scenario. We capture him alive. While he lives, we are ironically protected from other heroes because he still has the exclusive rights while he poses little threat from within our dungeons. Loopholes!
No. 1083297 ID: 5ebd37

Yes, it does little other than buy us time
No. 1083352 ID: 27fceb

Well to me it seems like a good thing.
No. 1083389 ID: 6486d5

No. 1083422 ID: c1fc43

Wait a second... Oh man this just got highly useful. How much does it take to purchase one? Once we've dealt with the invading force... We could help Clara buy one. With that we effectively nullify heroes as long as she's alive. So victory scenarios have expanded. We had military and diplomatic - now we have economic as well.
No. 1083425 ID: 5ebd37

Yes, however, it probably wouldn't last, as the guild will ask questions when Clara continuously fails to deliver the bounty she explicitly claimed dibs on.
No. 1083507 ID: 426180
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Ask about the opponent's strategy.

B) Ask about the opponent's behavior.

C) Other suggestions.
No. 1083534 ID: 5ebd37

What sort of things does she tend to steal? Can we predict what she's after and how she would try to get it?
No. 1083541 ID: 27fceb

Let's find out what this cat's strategy is.
No. 1083560 ID: e51896

B. figuring out the behavior is important when we need to play mind games with our opponent when the time comes.
No. 1083572 ID: a8efc3

Why not both.png
No. 1083663 ID: 17cc56
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) What is the name of the bird?

B) What is its job?

C) What is its relationship with the cat?

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1083704 ID: 6defd8

So if she's just greedy could we go the bribery route? Worked for Clive at the battle of Plassey after all. Per Kenku why does he/she follow the literal cat burglar around? Just to give ideas as the brains of the duo?
No. 1083728 ID: 5ebd37

A scholar eh? Could he be looking for some ancient treasure or powerful artifact?
No. 1083805 ID: e51896

it could be possible the bird is being blackmailed into helping the cat after hearing her behavior.

I want to confirm that by seeing if there are any hints of that. C.
No. 1083809 ID: 5de8cd

Does the bird like the cat? Is it a servant to the cat?
No. 1084077 ID: 6458c7
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell the demon apple to calm down.

B) Tell Worm Works to contact the Necromancer overlord about the bones of Covario.

C) Kiss Clara for no reason.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1084130 ID: aa22fd

Well we've got nothing she'd want to steal... that we know of. Wormworks, since you know this place do you have what she would steal?
>Steals regardless of bribes
Plan differed a little. We'd bribe her to backstab Dredge and his forces rather than not steal. We'd only pay when the job's done. Has that been attempted?
>What to do
Pettiness is unbefitting of a royal Abdle. Do remember your life is on the line here too. Such uncooperativeness is unpragmatic with the situation we have.
>Dead Covario bones
Sounds like a job for the Heroes guild. We're a little busy to act on this. Even if we had a reason to. We can give Clara supplies but that's about all.
>Actus Opus
We met before... Did Farm Knight gain status? Either he calls off the dogs or we keep defending ourselves. What's he suggesting we do? We're not gonna lay down and die.
No. 1084150 ID: 5de8cd

Go with A) we do not need that attitude
No. 1084214 ID: 5ebd37

A) Wow, Abdle, I didn't know you were so eager to talk about your sister. Since we apparently can't have any secrets lets discuss how you feel about her, hmm? Or would you prefer that we let some painful subjects lie?

As for the bones, is that even a problem? Do the bones retain something of the spirit or soul, or are they just raw materials?
No. 1084413 ID: 7d1aad

One another thing, ask Worm Works if he can talk with Necromancer about the bones of your previous opponent and if he can give them to us
No. 1084422 ID: 7c55ad

A. but also, tell Worm works to read the room next time
No. 1084522 ID: 069b13
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell your guest to cool it with the sexual advances.

B) Be silent and ignore all of this nonsense.

C) Other suggestions.
No. 1084525 ID: 7c55ad

C. Quick! Change the subject. Here's a thought, ask if our cat enemy has ever made a deal with this necromancer or bone buyer before, like if she has ever sold the bones of her enemies for a quick way to make pay

because there could be a possibility she could send the bones of our spy to them and we may have to deal with it spying on us in a worst case scenario. You don't need to mention that part to our guest though.

if she's known to do that, we might have to amp up security around the castle and make sure they don't leak information.

side note to self: next time you send out a spy, don't let them wear anything that resembles that they came from our kingdom. I think our enemies were able to figure out we were spying on them by the symbol on its little hat.
No. 1084536 ID: 7c55ad

Now that I think about it, I wonder if Iron Dredge ever did business with the bone buyer too, considering he had our dead rat pal there last we saw.
No. 1084538 ID: 6e53a8

We're in a meeting. Save the pleasure for after business. Sheesh, what is she the paladin of to be so shameless? Lust deity or deities? So what does Actus expect us to do, not defend ourselves? For that matter Covario or the overlords should be of greater concern than us.
No. 1084539 ID: 5ebd37

C) Is this normal behavior for Clara? And what was with that urge to kiss her a minute ago? Does Worm Works even have a dick?
Something funny is going on around here.
No. 1084582 ID: 7cd5ae

Now slowly explain to your guest that you won't be able to have a conversation with her if there is a dick in her mouth.
No. 1084746 ID: 87b4c1
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Just ignore all of this.

B) Slap Clara.

C) Slap Gramleza.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1084747 ID: 7c55ad

D. Gotta get the meeting back on track. Tell Gram and Clara to to keep it in their pants, or you'll Order Wormworks to leave the room for the rest of the meeting. You really don't want to do that, but will if they don't stop misbehaving.
No. 1084748 ID: 5ebd37

We might need to order more jester hats at this rate.
D) I don't think we've seen Worm Works so flustered before. Lets play along for a bit and see how he reacts to this situation he didn't anticipate.
No. 1084767 ID: 90f91e
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Eh, pure text just isn't emphatic enough. Have an audio file from a vidya that says it all.
No. 1084805 ID: b099e0

Let's just sit back and see how this plays out.
No. 1084971 ID: 72574f
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Other suggestions, I have no idea how to approach this suggestion.
No. 1084975 ID: 27fceb

Tell the two goblin brother and sister to take our guest to the bed for her to rest.
No. 1084978 ID: 7c55ad

Hah! I recognize that pose.


That's probably the best thing we can do right now. we'll need to call a doctor too.

At the very least, that trainwreck of a meeting is over. I believe it's off to see the archer after we get her to a bed and get a doctor over, yeah?
No. 1085014 ID: 0f4fb5

First make sure her neck and spine are unbroken because we'd need magic to fix those issues. Second, once you're sure those are fine move her body with a stretcher to a bed. Even if you don't have one just improvise with 2 poles and a large sheet/cloth because it will minimize further damage. Lastly, figure out what damage she has so you can focus on what to fix. She might have a concussion if she's unconscious. How ironic that paladin healing magic would be very useful...
No. 1085045 ID: 5ebd37

Well. Demote Gramleza from jester to prisoner, at least until we have time to have a discussion about her temper. I'm tempted to say Clara should wake up in a cell too, but healing her injuries takes priority.

lets forget about insubordinates and paladins who are apparently really easy to defeat, and move on to testing the archer.
No. 1085203 ID: 08b744
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It will be up to you to choose what a fitting punishment will be.
No. 1085326 ID: a97f7c

Well, because this is pre-renaissance... One charge of conduct unbecoming of a member of the council. 5 lashes. (Perhaps this applies to Gram as well, though we could commute that on grounds of not knowing we'd need to do this until she did so.) One charge of recklessly endangering a life. 10 lashes. Wounds are to be healed so that there is no scarring. Should the culprit desire scars (as a reminder), leave a maximum of one per charge. Her charges will be read in public where she will either accept the flogging as fair or resign the council should she believe this is unfair and an injustice. Side note, we gotta set up a legal code. Pure arbitrary punishing is rife for abuse and discourages businesses if personal feelings can unnecessarily ruin honest business.
No. 1085328 ID: 7c55ad

Why do I get the feeling she might enjoy the lashes
No. 1085357 ID: 5ebd37

hmm, a legal code, yes. But in the meantime, some time in the dungeon to cool off, followed by a stern discussion about whether she can be trusted to hold her temper in future. And lastly a warning that if this happens again she'll be assigned to go look after the ex-treasurer. For a year.
No. 1085367 ID: 27fceb

I agree with this one, lets set up a law for all the disobedience.
No. 1085573 ID: ca7ffc
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell him to organize the meeting for the Banisters leader.

B) Tell him to organize the meeting for the Head Splitters leader.

C) Tell him to wait for now until you choose your decision.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1085586 ID: 5de8cd

Go with the Banisters leader, time to start creating diplomatic allies.
No. 1085611 ID: 3a3015

We've got to play this well. Either side will likely wish to avoid us getting too close to the enemy side. We can leverage that for diplomatic advantage. For who we should meet first let's go with the side with a focus on military matters, which is the Head Splitters. Every bit of aid we get will help fight off Dredge.
No. 1085657 ID: 5ebd37

The Banisters seem like they would be better allies long term, as they sound like they would bring more opportunities for trade and such.
But our immediate problems mean the Head Splitters would be of more use. Maybe we can offer them our fine spider-made crafts in exchange for their help.
No. 1085661 ID: 7c55ad


Be sure to stay on their good side, or else you'll get banned by banisters. I wonder if they have their own band too, and a bunch of banners.

ok i'll stop
No. 1085765 ID: 711344
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Try to calm down the birds.

B) Steal what the birds were carrying.

C) Try to ride one of the birds.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1085770 ID: 7c55ad

A. Calm them with the pecking order method. Since we can't really hurt anyone, ask Wormworks to give them both a light bonk in the head for you, similar to a peck to show them who's boss. They probably aren't going to let us near that package and delivery man, or ride them unless we deal with the roosters somehow. even though their monstrously sized medusa roosters, they're still chickens
No. 1085773 ID: 7c55ad

Oh wait, that method only works with chickens, these are more akin to roosters. If we want to calm roosters, we need to somehow get on top of them, and pin their head to the ground to show dominance. We are a bit too small for that...

Unless we can think of a way to safely pin them down, lets just feed them the apples the girl gave you the other day to distract them with (just make sure the apple seeds are taken out, those are poisonous to poultry)
No. 1085777 ID: 4271d7

Well inform the delivery service of course. We don't want to be blamed so we gotta tell them at once. Plus they may have protocols for this. Perhaps he saw a wild one while enroute? How much for a tamed one? Would be exceedingly useful vs Dredge's forces.
No. 1085785 ID: 27fceb

Try to ride one of them and try to pet it. That might calm it down.
No. 1085789 ID: 76a6c7

Actually, this raises a question, how did the guy get turned to stone if the roosters eyes were blindfolded, and still is?

Weird rotten luck is happening around here, first the mermaid falling down the stairs, now this. Maybe consider these might not be a coincidence.
No. 1085823 ID: 5ebd37

Great, more of Worm Works' crazy contacts, where does he find these people? Until we can free the man we'll have to look after these birds. Maybe they could give us an edge over our foes. Try approaching them carefully and pet them until they calm down. Oh, and store the stoned man in the dungeon, until he's freed he can make the place more intimidating for our prisoners.
No. 1086000 ID: dccb34
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Introductions are in order.
No. 1086028 ID: 41a18b

Such an unfortunate name, probably the other bolder people called him Cock Vibration. Well say hello to this guy.
No. 1086030 ID: 7c55ad

uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh... did he really have to take his clothes off for the prank?
No. 1086031 ID: 7c55ad

Also, just realized something, this guy is a 🗿

But yeah, introduce yourselves, and ask if Abdle can have a ride on one of the birds
No. 1086073 ID: 08833a

Per usual will leave social to others. Should inquire about buying or renting one of those though. Or just an eyeball if that works.
No. 1086088 ID: 5ebd37

Introduce yourself as a queen who doesn't have much time to waste on shenanigans. (pointed glance at Worm Works)
Inquire as to the cost and difficulty of purchasing or renting a cockatrice or two.
No. 1086176 ID: d6c370
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Armors.

B) Shields.

C) Spears.

D) Swords.

E) Arrows.

F) Other suggestions.
No. 1086177 ID: 5ebd37

I mean, we'll probably want all of those at some point. Actually why not make a few show pieces to bring along to diplomatic meetings. something to demonstrate what being our ally can bring.
No. 1086192 ID: 83ba40

Save a chunk for post-battle. Well unless swords can be beaten to plows. Or we can reforge them into tools. Per weapons we know we'll face armored foes so maces would be effective. Perhaps flails for those who are adept with maces. However given the stature of goblins range would be preferred. So perhaps crossbows that can pierce armor should be the focus. Per defenses armor is never bad to have. Full plate will save lives. For preserving metal we should use wood in places we can do so. Such as mace handles, non-mechanical crossbow parts or even parts of crossbow bolts except the tip. Wooden shields would be effective at a distance too. Wooden barriers such as "chevaux de frise" would also help fortify places. Simple pit traps with punji sticks may also be effective if deep enough to deal with shoes/boots/sabatons. Just build axes and saws first if we have to. Of course this assumes little hostile cavalry is used... which can be dealt with most effectively by polearms such as halbards. Horses are useless vs walls though.
No. 1086326 ID: ca7ffc

Just start mass-production of arrows. You can never have enough of them that and armors.
No. 1086344 ID: 1f54df

Whatever we get, make sure we get armor for Bobbie. She needs it since she cant really attack.
No. 1086360 ID: 3be84a
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Choose which one of the materials is the most interesting to you.
No. 1086371 ID: 24ea9e

Depends. Will we get the stuff pre-battle or post-battle? Pre-battle iron's most useful. Post-battle bronze for tools. Oh, do you have small sizes of the exotics? Just so our smiths can gain experience. Glass Shroud... would armor made of this hide the user or is it "Emperor's New Clothes?" While cursed stone seems edge-case only one of those edge cases would be duplicating what the thief plans to steal...
No. 1086372 ID: 5ebd37

A sampling of the soul and glass metal would be nice, maybe the curse as well. These materials seem like they would be helpful for trickery.

As for the main shipment, iron or bronze, does it matter? We aren't going to survive a straight up fight with the bulls, so the effectiveness of our weapons seems of less importance. Maybe, plating iron weapons in bronze to appear worse armed than we are?
No. 1086377 ID: 27fceb

Soul stone sounds like the most promising material. As for the 20 sworde side job, is it time sensitive?
No. 1086391 ID: 7c55ad

I say main shipment be iron for making armor for Bobbie. also considering that steel silk don't know much about anything except iron, bronze, or silver.

We should consider having steel silk take lessons on making the other things. ask if anyone knows anyone that knows anything about smithing any other materials for steel silk to learn from.
No. 1086523 ID: 4d483c
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Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first question:

A) Order 26 Iron Ores.

B) Order 8 Iron Ores and 8 Bronzen Ores.

C) Order 1 Soul Stone, 1 Cursed Stone, 1 Glass Shroud, 2 Iron Ores, and 2 Bronze Ores

D) Other suggestions.

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the second question:

A) Create 20 swords.

B) Create armor, crossbows, arrows, and maces.

C) Make half of the first thing and half of the second one.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1086532 ID: 7c55ad

I'm thinking B and B.

Iron good for durability, bronze good for if Iron is too heavy for some of our goblins.

Iron armor for Bobbie however.
No. 1086533 ID: 7c55ad

On second thought, since we are seeing the head splitters, they probably are already going to give us ample protection if we manage to form relations with them. Also, consider that Wormworks can probably even sell some of those iron swords to the head splittes as a sign of good will, and for the moneys.

I'll switch my vote to A and A.
No. 1086537 ID: 4d483c


I just have to post a little correction in the first answers to the Iron Ores the amount that you will get will be 16 instead of 26.
No. 1086538 ID: 7c55ad

still going with my vote
No. 1086541 ID: 5ebd37

A & A) lets get some revenue
No. 1086581 ID: 27fceb

A and A. Let's become the Queen of Iron and the Queen of Trading, but more importantly let's get that money.
No. 1086634 ID: adac09

Huh? He said it was iron and silver before... but it's iron and bronze? Well regardless. Sort of figured we'd get more bronze because he said bronze was less heavy than iron is. Just iron is fine if it's all equal. Will we get delivery 2 before Dredge arrives? Sure we do desire trade but money is useless if we get wiped. Perhaps if it was assured we'd get aid or could hire mercs then it would be safe. We don't though. So we should arm up if delivery 2 will be too late. For the future, glass shroud would be very good for our scouts. We messed up a camp with just stealth. With invisibility we could do severe damage. Hostile morale would drop hard if whoever is asleep suddenly dies without a trace.
No. 1086665 ID: 42e55e
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Can you ask him to pay us a visit?

B) Tell him that we will pay him a visit.

C) We are not interested in whatever he is offering.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1086667 ID: 7c55ad

A. As Bobbie said, we are pretty busy, so going out to visit would take more time out of our day, and will be better protected in our walls instead of going out and risking an assassination attempt if we go out in public. (at least, not until we are better equipped)

Still want to see what he's offering, if the pig is dedicated enough to come visit that is.
No. 1086671 ID: 7c55ad

Also another reason why, we have absolutely no idea where he is, since we can't really contact him and ask for his location, now can we?
No. 1086699 ID: 5ebd37

A) we don't even have a "sell fone" so he'll have to come to us.
No. 1086725 ID: aa625a

Doubt he can deliver through a siege but if he can we've got food to withstand a conventional siege. Well, while we can pay up. Otherwise perhaps this buhr-gar-vay-nee-uh has preserved foods. Which would be of use during a siege. Odd title, must be run by burghers...
No. 1086746 ID: 27fceb

Do we really want to deal with a fast food manufacturer. Best case scenario we get the food that is going to make us want it more, worst case scenario it slowly kills us. I vote on passing this offer.
No. 1086861 ID: 27fceb

No. 1086866 ID: 16a1a9
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No. 1086868 ID: 7c55ad

Tell the truth, Bobbie, and tell him if he's that worried about it, he should do something about his flaws. Put some effort into it.
No. 1086881 ID: 27fceb

The truth will set you free, so go with that
No. 1086882 ID: 8b1e35

Eh, just slap on a little manly cologne.
No. 1086883 ID: 5ebd37

You are a rotten apple, what else would you smell like?
You could try flavoring covering yourself with some spices, that would smell nice. A little cinnamon, maybe some nutmeg, or cloves. mmm
No. 1086949 ID: be36f9
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It is up to you to choose another test for loyalty, or if you are ok with this one being the test.
No. 1086952 ID: 1ca945

Little elaborate but here's one. Get a satchel. Put hidden air holes in the satchel. Put a spy rat with food and water inside. He is to take the satchel and go to Dredge. He will say that he was cursed to carry the satchel as a reminder for life that he crossed us. Should it ever be damaged, opened, or be removed he will die slowly with pain that will slowly escalate. Lies of course and he will be aware they are lies. His job is to be sure the rat stays alive. He will regularly see if the rat is alive by placing a finger on a hidden air hole and saying a codeword. Should the rat lick he's fine. Should the rat die or the satchel be damaged he is to head to HQ ASAP. Should he be captured he's to act as if he believed the curse was real but now he's aware it's lies his loyalty is to dredge - once freed he's to head to HQ ASAP. When he is in private he is to whisper details of the camp to the satchel's holes. Whole idea is that regardless of if the rat lives or dies he's putting his life on the line for us. Even if we fail, we still test how loyal he is because he's putting his life on the line by spying. Favorite plans are ones where you win even if you lose. Still, we'll attempt to verify what we learn just as insurance.
No. 1086956 ID: 78c96e

Oh addendum to the above. He's to say he believes that if Bobbie dies the curse dies with her so he'd like to help however he can without potentially damaging the satchel. Stuff like cleaning armor or accounting for supplies.
No. 1086968 ID: 5ebd37

That seems rather elaborate, and would Dredge even take back a soldier he thinks deserted?

How about this? Archer has to make his case in front of the entire castle, and he has to give a little speech on why Bobbie and Abdle are great and worth following.

Unless... if we could convince him that we have a potion or something that will turn him into a goblin. If he would willingly use it that would show he is committed enough to trust.
No. 1087003 ID: 27fceb

Go with your original idea but at the end tell him the truth. In that way both of you are at the same level, he was willing to risk his life to be part of this and you will return the favor.
No. 1087074 ID: 7c55ad

Maybe we can test his loyalty by sending him on some kind of quest? probably nothing related to dredge, but difficult enough to see if he will really be loyal enough to go on the quest and help us. We can probably send a spy to see if he does the quest and not do anything suspicious.
No. 1087099 ID: b68645
File 171137656683.jpg - (3.15MB , 2240x2073 , Monster queen97.jpg )

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) What do we know about him?

B) Make sure that he knows the pecking order.

C) Ask him if he knows knows what we are capable of.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1087153 ID: 5ebd37

hey, no torturing. She's supposed to be in time out.

This guy seems alright so far. Hopefully we won't need his work very often. Brief introductions, then we've got to get on with things.
No. 1087183 ID: 27fceb

Soooooooooo what do we know about him, can he introduce himself?
No. 1087256 ID: a4f7ed

Has this guy been vetted?
No. 1087262 ID: 7c55ad

Well, we do know that he tried to arrow us earlier, whether out of nervousness or hated our guts or both. I think B to establish where he stands is in order.

after all, if he was willing to arrow us without ramming rage's permission, he might not follow directions again if he works for us. We need to make sure he will follow directions to a T and make sure he doesn't step out of line thinking he knows whats best like he did with Ramming Rage.
No. 1087302 ID: 2c00c3
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Play it off as a joke.

B) Take it completely seriously.

C) Answer the question.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1087307 ID: 7c55ad

oh whoops, i thought we were talking about the archer in my previous suggestion.

C. I trust Gram. Give him a chance and just answer the question
No. 1087308 ID: 7b156c

Also, ask what kind of person or creature could actually survive without a head, cause im genuinely curious since hes asking that
No. 1087310 ID: 7a9f30

B) "no, can you? Kneel before us and let's find out."
It would be funny to let Bobbie 'chop' his head off, since it would look completely convincing until her curse took effect.
No. 1087314 ID: f8cffa

Our wits are too valuable to lose.
No. 1087368 ID: 27fceb

He is obviously joking
No. 1087460 ID: 55c31f
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) I trust him.

B) I don't trust him.

C) I don't know how to feel about him.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1087465 ID: 7e654e

Would trust but verify. Full disclosure, he's looking for camaraderie. We're not the ones to convince. He's unpopular with our people because of what he did. He may not find camaraderie here. Should he be unwilling to deal with that he may leave. We won't keep him against his will.
No. 1087467 ID: 5ebd37

C) he seems okay, but he's in a vulnerable position. What's stopping him from abandoning us as soon as an opportunity pops up elsewhere? We can offer him much, but its among those society rejects; monsters.
Is he here because he wants to be, or because he feels he has nowhere else to go?
No. 1087497 ID: 27fceb

Why don't we put him up to though those tests that we originally planned and judge the strength of his character.
No. 1087603 ID: fbe348
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Eat a pizza.

B) Go to the gym.

C) https://questden.org/kusaba/questdis/res/140583.html#141966

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1087796 ID: 7c55ad

I will say I trust his reason for joining us, but I dont trust that he will follow our directions too well, considering he fired that arrow without ramming rage's permission during that confrontation. He needs to know that if he does something like that with us, there will be consequences, whether from us, or from his own actions failing a mission

In other words, he cant let his own feelings dictate what his actions should be, there are reasons why he is ordered to do or not do things even if he might not like it. He can however give his thoughts on why he might think something is a bad idea beforehand for us to consider, just not act out on them on his own.
No. 1087827 ID: 47c854


Well *technically* he disobeyed orders because he knew rage was disobeying orders. He was obeying dredge's orders. Who has greater authority than rage.
No. 1087891 ID: b6b00c
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Push him towards joining our group.

B) Push him away from joining our group.

C) Say nothing.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1087894 ID: 1758e4

A) just a little nudge. Turn to Grimlith and very audibly tell him to prepare a travel pack of rations, subtly but clearly indicating that if archer's got nowhere to go, then that's where he's going if he doesn't do this.
No. 1087923 ID: 47c854

We will accept your decision regardless. We'd be happy to have you but there is a village close to this castle. Hide your ties to rage and you could start over and hunt animals for a living. Or you could wait before deciding since you can always return here. Forget everybody else. Even ourselves. Just decide the future you would prefer to have. (He has to decide for himself or his loyalty will be unassured, he has to feel like he he has a choice. Without that his loyalty will only be out of necessity which may go away once the necessity is gone.)
No. 1087924 ID: 535132

C. In the end, it is his decision. If hes going to have regrets either way, it will be because of his own choice, not because of us manipulating him to one side
No. 1087925 ID: 27fceb

If he is this conflicted about the decision it shows that he is still not willing to give a sacrifice to the case. Which will only make him a liability in the long run.
No. 1088082 ID: 9c049c
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell him that he won't turn.

B) Tell him that you can make him turn at any moment.

C) Do the needle in the heart test.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1088085 ID: 7c55ad

A. I think doing anything else would be overdoing it. This was already a pretty big decision he took, and I don't think we should emotionally distress him any further with more tests.

First, Simply congratulate him on passing the initiation, and assure him he won't transform. Apologize for putting him through this as you wanted to perform test of loyalty to see how high he is willing to jump when asked and how serious he was about joining, and he passed with flying colors... of course if he wanted to transform, we can probably find some ways to arrange that.

Also, if we have the means to do so, tell him we shall have a feast tonight to celebrate his initiation.
No. 1088100 ID: eab3f4

Polt has it covered. He was never going to. We just needed proof he was willing to. So congratulations, we are honored by the dedication he has.
No. 1088101 ID: 5ebd37

A) Congratulate him on his resolve. Explain that this initiation was in part to show him the sort of trickery we need to use to survive.

A feast... hey wasn't that troupe of weirdos supposed to put on a performance? Could make it a real party.
No. 1088156 ID: 27fceb

I vote for doing the needle in the heart test. He might be willing to put his reputation on the line, and now we need to see if he will put his life as well. This will prove that he will stick with us even when we start to lose.
No. 1088246 ID: 9c049c
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) After the needle in the heart test is over tell him the truth about the test.

B) After the needle in the heart test is over don't tell him the truth about the test.

C) Do not do the test.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1088259 ID: 7c55ad

hehehe, sorry, but I just had to laugh like Abdle did. Don't worry, we'll help you out of this Bobbie.

D. Your time to shine, Abdle. Grab the needle from Bobbie, and make your disagreements on this test known. Just like how Bobbie is running things, and keeping you in line, you have to do that too, but with Bobbie. You both need each other to call out on each other's shit so you guys can be the best rulers you can be.
No. 1088303 ID: 5ebd37

Ah ha ha ha ha! Ooh Gramleza's going to be so upset that she missed that.

Put your fo- ro- uh, tentacle down. Bobbie's going a little too far here, no need to torture the lad. Also don't give away that what happened to Rage was just a trick.
No. 1088377 ID: 27fceb

I am reconsidering my previous suggestion, no need for this keep going forward. Stop the needle in the heart test, he is loyal or in love with us.
No. 1088384 ID: e69e37

Pretty big stones on this dude. Still, wouldn't be a good test as-is. He believes Bobbie is powerful. Will he stay loyal once he sees it's a lie? Hard to say but how do you test that without revealing the unintended lie?
No. 1088435 ID: 8e7b4c
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) She needs to be taught a lesson.

B) Let it slide but warn her that we all need to work as a team.

C) Don't even bring it up.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1088441 ID: c260b4

She's basically doing what gram did, forcing a decision in defiance of team decisions. We gotta talk this out or there is no team and if that's the case we may as well leave.
No. 1088442 ID: 27fceb


I agree with you a line needs to be drawn in the sand and she needs to learn that we all have to work as one. We are not her enemy we all work on helping her and if she can't see that then there is no real point in us being here.
No. 1088464 ID: 7c55ad

Yeah, we'll need to have a talk with her and see why she did what she did despite us being against it, and nip the problem in the bud before it gets worse. Perhaps she is scared of him, or has trust issues, might have had a power trip moment, or maybe there's something about us that she was disgusted with. Whatever the case, we need to know the reasoning, and see what can be done. maybe get Abdle's sister involved if needed.
No. 1088497 ID: 5ebd37

She's going to regret leading that poor boy on, especially when a certain someone, currently in the dungeon, hears about it.

But can't have a argument in front of your adoring subjects. Save it for later, in private.
Bobbie is queen, she doesn't need to listen to us. She should listen to Abdle though.

Hey, hey Abdle. Is the blood rushing to your head, all upside down like that?
No. 1088535 ID: 13fdbb
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Let her off with a warning.

B) Make her stay in the cell for a little bit longer.

C) Punish her.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1088536 ID: 6b0eab

Drop the subject please, Abdle. That was then, and we will talk about that later privately. Lets be professional and focus on the task at hand for now.

What I want to do is have Clara decide what Gram's punishment should be as an eye for an eye kind of thing when she wakes up. But since she is unconscious at the moment, we are going to give Gram a chance to apologize to Clara by letting her write a formal apology letter to Clara in prison until Clara wakes up, if she so wishes to apologize and is serious about it. She should know that since Clara is going to be administrating the punishment, Gram should make sure her letter of apology is serious and sincere enough if she decides to write one, because who knows how severe Clara's punishment to Gram could be. This could help teach Gram consequences for her actions and teach her manners.
No. 1088549 ID: 5ebd37

Calm Abdle, don't be like Gramleza.

That punishment sounds fair, if she can grow from this experience then all is well.
No. 1088550 ID: 47c854

Seems she still fails to see the severity of this. She still put Clara's life on the line. Her words indicate intent even if she failed to see death as a potential consequence. We expect better from our subjects and even more from our council. Her defense is shrugging it off with "Well she didn't die." She has clearly learned nothing. She's fortunate we need her set of skills while Dredge is an issue. So what if we base her punishment on how well she meets expectations? She will have to write dull boring logs of her missions. Further poor behavior or poor performance will increase severity while meeting or exceeding expectations will decrease. She does exceedingly well she is only suspended from the council. She does exceedingly poorly she dies. Or worse as there are worse fates. She has one chance here to learn what is expected. Don't fail.
No. 1088551 ID: 55d524


I agree with this punishment as well.
No. 1088659 ID: f393b8
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Vote for the punishment.

B) Vote against the punishment.

C) The Executioner's vote counts.

D) Other suggestions.
No. 1088660 ID: c344a2

Why are you asking us? Our votes have no sway here. Go ahead, do what's expected, veto the whole vote.
No. 1088665 ID: 5ebd37

I don't know, why are you fighting like this? I thought you liked each other
No. 1088677 ID: 7e4e06

Arguments happen, even among friends.

D. Before we vote, I want to hear Bobbie's reason for doing the needle test despite the majority being against it, and why she feel she needed to do it. Basically, I want to get an understanding of each other to better communicate appropriately early on before the arguments tear our team apart later on. Ive been through that before, and I dont want that to happen here again. Is everything alright Bobbie?

My reasoning for not using the needle test was that things can be very bad if the archer figures out it was all a lie, and we lead him on keeping him under our thumb with a lie. Everything about our relationship with him is built on a bridge of lies, which path could turn into a tightrope if he starts investigating or asking questions. We'll have to tread carefully with how we interact with him and our actions around him now.
No. 1088681 ID: 27fceb


I agree with this suggestion.
No. 1088761 ID: 11d55a
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Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) The punishment is not necessary, we can skip it.

B) Continue with the voting.

C) Other suggestions.
No. 1088765 ID: 7c55ad

B. And I vote punishment.

Sorry Bobbie, but, you have to remember that we have a village of humans nearby our castle, and one of them even gave us a gift of apples. If you start showing a bias against humans and treat them unfairly against other species, they could start a protest, or worse revolt. We will go with your plan, but I highly recommend you treat the archer just as equal as your other allies that follow you from this point on.

And yeah, we love you Bobbie, but this punishment has to happen because we don't want this team to end up like what happened to Ramming Rage and his allies. Like Abdle said, if we are going to deal with a life or death situations, we can't have anyone going off to do what they feel like doing. That doesn't just go for Bobbie, but it goes for Abdle, and all of our followers as well.
No. 1088809 ID: 5ebd37

A) This isn't how adults should deal with their interpersonal problems. If you two can't talk this out, then maybe your partnership just isn't working. And hitting each other when you don't like what the other did won't fix that.

This castle could really use a therapist on staff.
No. 1088818 ID: 27fceb

My vote is for the vote of the executioner to count, as for my vote it is that the Queen needs to be punished.
No. 1089020 ID: bdef32

Well time to deal with this tie, by rolling the dice. Every even number on the dice is going to be for the punishment to be ignored, every odd number is going to be for the punishment to happen.
No. 1089021 ID: bdef32

rolled 3 = 3

No. 1089063 ID: 14ce63


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