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124805 No. 124805 ID: 270774

i don't like em puttin chemicals in the water that turn the frickin frogs gay
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No. 127574 ID: 270774

pleased to report that there are absolutely zero vampires in tvrn who suck toes

anyway, mini announcement, updates are gonna slow down for a bit bc im too hyped about jojo’s bizarre adventure to live or breathe and the only thing that soothes the beast within my chest is churning out endless pages of doujin about evil mafia men tragically in love so i’m doing that for a bit. i’ll come back when i wear myself out a little bit and also when said gay mafia villains are all dead and i thereby stop caring about the rest of the season
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hey so uhhh a patreon is a thing that's finally happening https://www.patreon.com/iraprince
no aspects of my quests are actually being monetized besides a stretch goal to start a new one; nothing is really changing. but i have some cool goodies on here like behind the scenes stuff and downloads of my digital sketchbooks, polls for bonus content, and my favorite tier which is embarrassing love notes each month from your fav fractal quest characters
check it out if u want!
No. 127834 ID: 270774

also im behind on lore crossposts again

>has anyone ever asked about the effects of garlic in the tvrn universe
pascal mentions super briefly that garlic superstition is ridiculous but jokes on him bc if he ever ate a clove he sure would throw up. that counts

>was there a better way to handle the oyabun situation? what about a worse way?
there were ABSOLUTELY worse ways. being openly defiant or combative to her would have gone very badly. as for better.... mmm it’s hard to say. we haven’t really seen the full consequences/changes that have come from the way that situation was handled yet, or how it’s changed the dynamic between chidori and nanako yet. things could have gone very Differently but it’s hard to say whether a different outcome would objectively be better or worse

>can i ask how your style developed so that character noses are a sometimes thing? i cannot phrase it in a way that doesnt sound wrong in some way but i legitimately am curious dont think its bad arent judging u (i know the anime stigma in art circles)
i think it was that in visual shorthand (if it’s a distance model, if i’m just doodling) i never put noses on them and then i just ended up realizing i thought it was really cute like that even in more detailed drawings. now for me actually drawing noses is just a tool to communicate the angle of the face if needed

>Do buff vampires need to have muscles or is it all magic? Do they need to work out and pump iron or are they just, vampire?
it’s both! if two vampires both have the power affinity, are the same general age, and have both fed at around the same time — so basically, if all the Vampire Magic is on equal footing — the person who has done more physical training is going to be stronger, so vampires who are Serious Duelists put time and effort into their bodies too.

>Is there any way to stop being a vampire, other than death?
nope! you’re in it for the long haul! it wouldn’t be horror otherwise!

>so eastern europe took ages to adopt the gregorian calendar so pascal probably grew up using the old julian calendar and he doens't seem like the type to learn the new one. so can pascal tell the date. does he know what day it is
[holding my head in my hands] oh my god. oh my god you’re right. he wouldn’t learn it. he wouldn’t care. he doesn’t know what day it is

>can vampires turn animals to be vampires? logistically i realize that this would be a terrible thing to do, the animals would kill without thinking of not being discovered, etc etc, but I also feel like maybe some vampires would try to do it without considering the consequences
nope, only humans can be turned into vampires! this extends to any other sapient creatures in the tvrn universe — humans ONLY, all the way down

>would you be willing to say what the known oldest vampires age is? or like a ballpark? We know pascal is young and ricardo is baby, but how old is old as shit in tvrn?
the oldest vampire that we’ll probably meet in tvrn is like, 5000, and that’s old as SHIT. a vampire like kel in the 1300-ish range is considered, like, Established and Competent and Cool. a vampire who’s like 400-500 like bunji is respectable. a vampire who’s 250-ish like pascal is considered Just old enough to take seriously

>wait do vampires feed off of like. sirens/bigfeet/werewolves/other vampires? like can they do that instead of humans. like all the many issues with that aside
they Could feed off other sapient creatures but the taste is Off, and also other creatures are generally much more able to defend themselves so there’s no reason for them to put in the extra effort. as pascal has mentioned briefly, they do kill other creatures for territory, though. vampires feeding on other vampires is something that needs to be explored in the thread!

>i hope this isn't spoilers but... do the old as shit vampires actually remember all their life? or even a 1000yo vampire. like, that's a Lot of years to be alive. does their memory kind of start to deteriorate after a while?
it’s not really spoilers! it depends on the vampire. kel’s got shit pretty together but she doesn’t sweat the details; the 5000 y/o vamp i mentioned remembers Everything. a lot of it hinges on how much you Want to remember

>how does pascal feel about slime videos
he hasn’t discovered them yet but when he does he’s going to go fucking apeshit and by apeshit i mean “laying on the couch watching them for hours at a time bc he has depression”

>If you like dipped a chicken nugget in blood could a vamp eat it and not throw up? If a hamburger is bloody enough but literally and unironically could Pascal know true joy? Is there a blood-to-food ratio you could achieve where eating a Cheetos wouldn't fuck up your shitty yet superior vampire body?
no. all is puke. no solid food whatsoever

>Ok but would that mean vampires can drink milk? Are there lactose intolerant vampires? Do they puke if they drink milk
i’m just gonna be honest and say that you guys are about a thousand times more interested in the technicalities of this than i ever will be

>in tvrn, do different blood types have different tastes? or is it all placebo effect for those that do think it. "dude i SWEAR this one tasted better i SW-" "theyre all the same. theyre all the fucking same, oh my god"
it is absolutely the latter. any vampire who claims to taste the difference between blood types is bullshitting

>who in tvrn and acid soup smokes weed
- pascal when he can get it but he can’t currently bc everyone hates him
- jonquil
- minmin will socially but doesn’t on his own
- naotaro
- two of kel’s wards but you haven’t met them yet

acid soup:
- belial
- ne
- like every member of the sukebun
- lowry doesn’t currently but when she discovers it it’s going to help a lot
- cain

[solemnly] ricardo big cat pupils.

>Your work in color is so stunning and atmospheric - is there a reason you decided to keep TVRN in grayscale?
the primary and extremely unglamorous answer is update speed! it is about a billion times faster + easier to go “ok ~6 shades of grey, 3 shades of red” rather than juggling, like u said, palettes focused on atmosphere and trying to keep palettes across an entire cast of characters more or less consistent the way i do in acid soup. it’s not totally a workflow economy choice tho!!! it is also a loving nod to black and white vampire films, like nosferatu and the bela lugosi dracula.

>so if kel has roughly 400 wards and constantin has like sixty, and he's younger than her too.... kel could probably likely easily snap him in half, right
if it was one on one, yes. but aggressing him is aggressing the entire cradle and all affiliated houses

>Do vampires begin to weaken when they are very old or do they never stop to grow stronger ?
if all other factors are exactly the same, an older vampire will always be stronger at baseline than a younger one. but all factors are rarely exactly the same! as an example, i once mentioned offhand that there will be a character in tvrn who is roughly 5000 years old. but he’s generally averse to violence (at least by vampiric standards) and has had no interest in learning to fight beyond the bare minimum of what’s necessary to defend himself and his wards. kel is 1300, has devoted her life to warfare, and would crush him like a saltine cracker. in the same way, pascal is half bunji’s age, and bunji is a power type, but he was still able to break bunji’s ankle (even though he injured himself doing it) because he was freshly fed and bunji hadn’t fed for an indeterminate amount of time. there are always ways to level the playing field!

>how does kel make time for all 400 of her wards? :O?
she kind of doesn’t. though she turns them all personally in small batches of 3-4 at a time (unlike many cradle families who use branching “the wards of my wards are automatically Mine” systems), most of them are trained and brought up by her older, trusted wards, and she spends the most personal time with the ones who have the most potential. kel is much better in terms of basic decency than most other powerful sires, but she is faaaaar from perfect, and she is a warlord — her main purpose behind creating new vampires is military power, not companionship.

>I know Pascal turned Ricardo by accident but how do most vampires approach turning someone? Do they ask first?
it depends. the vast majority of cradle houses do not, and turn humans against their will based on the sire’s personal taste. the higuchi family, as an example, approaches humans and proposes the turn clearly and honestly, like a business proposal. most american nomadic vampires turn people they already know for companionship. kel only turns women who manage to hunt her down and demand it

>i mean if you were a housebound wife drop spindling all the damn year long and then one day you see kel carrying her horse down the lane who wouldn't snap their husband's neck and chase after her
RIGHT. this is exactly the mood

>Do any vampires decide to shift into animals permanently or semi-permanently?
you wouldn’t be able to hold a shift that dramatic permanently! a vampire who’s competent at shifting could hold a form they’re comfortable with for a few hours without breaks in a relaxed context (i.e. turning into a bat to fly somewhere); one of kel’s wards who is a shifter can hold one of her forms in an aggressive combat context/at full exertion for abt 15 minutes, which is considered pretty intense.

>how long can pascal hold his jackal form?
in theory, like 40 mins. in practice, like 40 seconds bc he HATES not being able to talk

>Does Kel believe dead vampires go to Valhalla?
she has an opinion. she has a fucking WEIRD opinion
No. 127835 ID: 158da5

>pascal mentions super briefly that garlic superstition is ridiculous but jokes on him bc if he ever ate a clove he sure would throw up. that counts

I love that this implies that despite what he says, Pascal has avoided garlic for 250 years.
No. 127836 ID: bb78f2

Are you ever messing with Dhampirs/daywalkers in this setting at all? Can't help but love my Blade's and Bloodraynes so I gotta ask.
No. 127866 ID: 270774

he sure has.

nope. tvrn vampires cannot reproduce
No. 127867 ID: 270774
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anyway it's ricardo's mom love hours
No. 127869 ID: 158da5

No. 127878 ID: bb78f2

Blade was born from a pregnant human being bit by a vampire, so what you're saying is that Blade would be stillborn in TVRN or birthed normally?

Granted the mother having to spend three days DEAD before being turned requirement would really fuck with their development unless the sire could perform a c-section to save the child in that period.

You know, if there would be a quest just about being a single Mom on tgchan, I'd bet the protagonist would be just like her. I don't think a tgchan quest HAS tackled trying to be a parent before... for good reason. Would be funny though.

Why does Mamma Ricardo have to be so cool
No. 127899 ID: 270774

yeah no, being turned requires the person dying so in that case no kid, and in the tvrn universe being bitten non-fatally has no supernatural effects so the kid would just be born normally. no vampire kids possible in any circumstances
No. 127900 ID: 270774
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anyway my twitter+tumblr audience cares abt stuff like this but idk if my strictly tgchan one does but i’m gonna post it anyway for the sake of it being new art; i have acrylic charms in the works and i’m like. stoked abt it
No. 127919 ID: 158da5

Would you mind explaining about the Easter Island problem here? I'd like to understand that, too.
No. 127920 ID: b1b4f3

I don't get it either.
No. 127921 ID: 465a14

Wasn't involved in it, but after the fact my guess is that people thought it could be offensive that Pascal called the Rapa Nui/Easter Island statues ugly, since they're significant in a culture he isn't part of.
No. 127922 ID: b1b4f3

Isn't that to be expected though? Beauty is subjective, and standards of beauty are different between cultures, even.
No. 127923 ID: 158da5

Yeah don't do that.
No. 127924 ID: b1b4f3

Do what?
No. 127925 ID: 158da5

Justify mocking other cultures because they're different. Being respectful doesn't mean you have to personally like the way something looks.

I don't know if that's what Fractal was even referring to yet, but c'mon.
No. 127927 ID: b1b4f3

I didn't think Pascal was mocking their culture. One statue's appearance is only the barest surface level, after all(the history of the statues is pretty interesting!). I can't see how he phrased it now, maybe it's worse than I remember.

If you ask me the problem was probably how Fractal drew the statue, it could be considered a racist caricature due to being a bit exaggerated.
No. 127938 ID: 9e2e20


heres a message sent to FRACTAL's curiouscat that explains the issue well imo

>different anon here but as someone who has been keeping up with tvrn this really isnt any better With context and i've been trying to find the words to express how uncomfortable it makes me. in the text of the update you had pascal call the easter island statues ugly and compared their features to ricardo's in a way that really didnt read like you were just talking about the eyebrows, i dont understand what's supposed to be funny about this except you playing racism for humor. the "i cannot tell you all apart" line is especially inappropriate and uncomfortably close to harmful real life stereotypes about dark-skinned people. it genuinely shocked and disappointed me, i really thought you knew better than this.
No. 127939 ID: 158da5

Oh wow, okay, that makes sense.
No. 127948 ID: 270774

yeah, the best explanation is the one that informed my decision (which is this one quoted here.) someone else had opened the conversation by telling me in broader terms that they found the joke uncomfortable and racist, and i didn’t really Get It bc from my perspective it was just a joke abt his expression, and then when this person weighed in that was my like lightbulb moment where i was like “oh, SHIT, it DOES completely come off like this.” i don’t think that my intent in this case matters at all bc it doesn’t change what the end result ended up being (which is.... Bad.)

i was very firmly convinced by the points this person brought up, and i don’t want anything like that in my work, and also i just want to take it seriously when someone says they’re disappointed in me for legitimate reasons, so altogether that’s why i decided to just remove that part entirely and redo it.
No. 127976 ID: 270774

heads up -- you guys missed something that's like. not VITAL, but a pretty big deal. i'd been waiting for someone to notice and i normally don't give hints, but this update contains a nudge towards what you missed.
No. 128303 ID: 270774

it’s crosspost time

>What tamagotchi does Jonquil have? Like one of the original ones, or the 20th anniversary re-release? Or are they like super into it and have one imported one from Japan that they've patched
they have Many. they have a Collection

>do any vampires turn their family members? parents, siblings, a big undead family?
depends on location/culture! this is super common in dens (like the brooklyn one.) the same with turning close friends for companionship — generally only done in vampire populations where the ward/sire relationship isn’t automatically considered one of servitude

>when you say tvrn out loud do you say 'turn' or 'tee vee ahr enn'
i say turn! but [my wife, who created ricardo + several other characters] tends to pronounce it almost like “tavern” (kind of like... t’vern) and sometimes i catch that version of it sneaking into my brain

>If you've used historical figures like Elizabeth Bathory as vampires, are there any modern-day famous people that are vampires or other monsters?
i feel weird abt writing anyone who hasn’t been dead for a century or more into my porno comic tbh fjdkjdkd. like even if it was just as a joke it’s just a boundary i don’t really wanna mess around w

>tvrn characters' weirdest sleeping positions?
jonquil crams themself into the smallest spaces they can find like a fucked up cat

>how do you come up with this stuff?! for tvrn i mean. you seem to have such rich backstory and a whole entire arc planned out and it's super cool. i don't know how to tell stories or create characters with depth. also i would buy enamel pins if we're suggesting merch.
ohhhh this is kind of a hard question. my instinctive answer was “i just Do It” but i know that’s not really true, it’s just that i don’t know how to put what i do into words. i’ll try tho!
i think worldbuilding and character development are both just asking yourself a lot of questions and then answering them. the concept of wards + sires is something that’s been part of my Personal Vampire Lore since i was like 15; the question is “well if you get turned into a vampire who shows you how to hunt people without getting caught and how do you find out which stuff is real or not re: crosses and garlic and stuff” and the answer in my case was “well i guess the person who turned you had better show you otherwise they’re a dick.” and then like in terms of how pascal became better developed.... at first his concept was just “vampire who seems scary and elegant but actually he’s just kind of lazy and a loser and a coward.” and so you ask questions about that. “doesn’t he have any friends?” not really. “how does he feel about that?” he’s resigned to it. “what does he do all day?” nothing, frankly. and you just keep asking yourself questions like that until you’ve like..... covered everything, kind of.

>sorry ya it is a tough question ! i guess i’m just really impressed w the way your story is crafted with. peaks and falls and action and what is to be discovered and resolution like i think i just don’t know how to write a story lol
i think the best way to learn to write stories is just to consume a bunch of stories! my work is very strongly influenced by shoujo and shonen in equal measure, and by horror movies, plus of course tvrn is a big sloppy nod to the standard trashy romance novel formula: relatively average but strongwilled protag is thrust into a situation in which they have to exist in close quarters with mysterious sexy asshole, lots of people try to stop it from happening, protag slowly uncovers mysterious sexy asshole’s Tragic Past and Hidden Softness, etc etc. so it’s really just drawing from a bunch of other stuff that i like!

>Who would think being compared to a furby is a complement in the TVRN cast? Is it Jonquil?
jonquil would not like being compared to a furby bc they would interpret that as “slow to learn, almost universally considered annoying.” minmin thinks furbies are cute tho. (furbies? furbys?)

>what does minmin think about longfurby
minmin commissioned a custom longfurby to wear like a mink stole

>Hot take: Pascal should blow raspberries on Ricardo's abs
your brain is so big. thank you

>can we have some werewolf fuck tips since I know werewolves tend to rightfully avoid vampires but, how do we set them at ease around us not to run off when we approach them?
dont let pascal say or do anything at all

>d does pascal hate werewolves or do werewolves hate pascal
pascal is a little fucking bitch asshole to werewolves for absolutely no reason

>will the werewolves be... Hot
everyone in tvrn is and always will be hot, in various and many-splendored ways

>Did pascal fuck oscar wilde Yes or yes
the timeline on this one actually works out perfectly. you know what maybe pascal wasn’t grossed out by fucking humans when he was younger and then he changed his mind once he started getting older

>So pascal said he’s not into fucking humans but how uncommon/taboo is it to other vampires? Are some of them down with that?
i would say more vampires Aren’t into it than are, not bc of any kind of taboo but just bc as a physical experience it isn’t Great, but it’s not that uncommon.

>i’m all for pascal fucking mozart and i hate to be the one to tell you this but i feel like it’s relevant to point out that it was uncovered in some letters he wrote his cousin that mozart had a scat fetish
[taking out my big eraser] not in the tvrniverse he didn’t

>What would happen if the Hearts Goetia cast and TVRN cast net up? Would they fight or something?
i think it’s safe to say like half of them would fuck and the other half would kill each other

>wait how much ass eating is in tvrn. should i start reading it
to be COMPLETELY frank with you there is, so far, much less ass eating than there is psychological horror but i’ll try to even it up

>OK this could be something u don’t want to touch on until it comes up in canon which is totally fine but is constantin just turning people who look like himself?? Because he has the beauty mark, unless its also a tattoo?????
no this is fine i don’t really consider it a spoiler. he does turn ppl who look like him

[it would feel silly to copy paste something in spanish when everything else in this thread is in english but paraphrased, i got a question abt whether tvrn vampires need to be invited into buildings and the answer is only private residences. so they could enter an apartment building without an invitation but to enter a specific unit where someone lives they would need an invitation]

>How would the main vampires in tvrn so far comfort someone in floods of tears? (if comforting is something they do instead of just "you're crying. Stop doing that")
we actually have seen ricardo try to comfort pascal when he was crying in ch 1 and his reaction is literally “stop that.” pascal would probably try to make you laugh to distract you, or flirt playfully to get your mind off it. kel would comfortingly slap you on the back and probably break several of your bones doing so and then you’d be too shocked and winded to keep crying. lamb......... lamb would just get uncomfortable and leave

>Yes tvrn vamps are majestically op, But ever since you said the brain and the heart keep going unless they're completely destroyed I've wanted to. behead a vampire and see if it grows into two vampires like when you cut a worm in half.
i actually answered this once and can’t remember what i said but it was probably something boring and practical like “after 3 days of separation, whichever body half has Less to regenerate (so almost always the body w the heart in it) will start regenerating and the other part will die like a mortal body” but i change my mind and now i’m saying whether the head or the heart is prioritized as the center of regeneration depends on the vampire bc that’s cooler

>now im wondering if pascal’s comments about werewolves not being a threat to vampires is going to come bite us in the ass when he inevitably pisses off a werewolf and we learn werewolves ARE a threat, actually,
it is possible pascal cosovei was blowing it out his ass when he bragged he could take a pack of werewolves singlehanded

>If Pascal tried to suck my blood I would merely take out an aerosol can and a lighter and completely immolate his shitty vampire body
thank you so much

>can vampire be moth

>what would happen if a vampire tried to suck a werewolf's blood? or are we going to have to find that out ourselves? I'll stop if my werewolf questions are getting tiring.
the vampire would retch and spit a lot and wonder why the hell they tried to do that because it tastes like shit

>are all vampires as... elitist as Pascal? he seemed really dismissive of other cryptids. or is it just an old european house thing. also is Kel friends with any banshees?
most cradle vamps are worse than him, and almost all vampires are very obnoxiously aware of how solid their position at the top of the supernatural food chain is even if they aren’t as shitty abt it as cradle vamps are about, like, everything. even if they aren’t elitist abt it tho most vampires don’t have anything to do w other creatures anyway, bc other creatures want nothing to do w vampires, bc vampires are hyperviolent freaks. banshees are completely solitary but kel has some history with sirens

>how would pascal react if some rando just called him a rat because pascal reminds me of a rat but in both a good way and a bad way
he would scream. and then get distracted bc rats are kind of cute and he’d start thinking maybe it was a compliment

>Ok but would kel be friends with a buff werewolf lady if she fought for her love
kel could crush even an extremely tough werewolf in one hand like a dry leaf so it would be hard for a werewolf to win her respect by fighting her but maybe a werewolf could win kel’s respect if kel observed her like, fighting for her pack. (kel would probably refuse to fight a werewolf period bc it would be so unbalanced.)

>wait, do the bathory wards get the tattoo BEFORE being turned? if they got it after, it would just heal, right? 🤔
yep, they do

>hey ira!! do you have voiceclaims / ideas about how tvrn characters sound?
not really! this is one of those things where like... i guess my brain just doesn’t really work that way? and i don’t think abt it in very specific terms

>you've at least implied The Count from Sesame Street as a voiceclaim for Pascal before xD
you’re right, i apologize. count von count is the official pascal voiceclaim

>what do vampires think of their depictions in media? like, do they think its funny or insulting or are they just 'humans are stupid.' Is Dracula wary that they've semi-caught on to his existence?
depends on the vampire. pascal loves them. dracula isn’t bothered — as far as he’s concerned, all the bullshit just obscures his actual operations

>what r dracula's Actual Operations? 👀
in what universe would i answer this when we are on chapter 2, you little sneak

>does dracula have his ass out at all times. does dracula wear stockings. please tell me dracula is sexy and has gigantic titties even if he is evil and we will have to kill him inevitably or die trying at endgame i just want to know
im not telling you anything abt dracula except that all tvrn characters are sexy

>is it ethical to fuck tvrn dracula is the real question we should be asking
i genuinely haven’t decided yet

>Ok but what about the brides of dracula, if they exist are they hot? Are they the grooms of dracula instead
dracula is single

>i forget if you've mentioned this somewhere, but how long can a vampire go without feeding before starvation sets in? and are there any long-term consequences if a vampire frequently approaches starvation, or does their accelerated healing take care of it?
pascal’s mentioned this briefly — depends on how old a vampire is. pascal feeds about once every three weeks in cold weather, and more frequently when it’s warm out. as for the actual limits of starvation, he does mention a story about elizabeth bathory surviving four years without blood — but he also says he thinks that’s impossible sensationalized bullshit, and that in general a 500-1000 year old vampire would be able to go 5-6 months at most. consequences of repeated starvation will be addressed in canon pretty soon

>I think TVRN is turning me gay
congrats and welcome

>do you think it would be going to fast if Ricardo and Pascal got shotgun married in vegas by an elvis impersonator
if ricardo even vaguely broached this subject pascal would steal another car and leave him to die

>Can vampires speak furbish
yuo people age me

>ira help was there bigfoot lore in tvrn, i scrolled ur curiouscat for a while but couldn’t find it
there was but a lot of it is on my nsfw cc (it wasn’t nsfw lore just like, sometimes ppl send it there). basically: they’re pacifists who deeply value strong communication and are happier than almost every other supernatural species

>do bigfeet look at vampires and go "wowww. sucks to be you. peace!" and go away if they encounter a vampire?
essentially yeah. they feel compassion for vampires but also Nobody Wants To Deal With That

>how open to fucking are bigfeet?
in general? extremely. fucking vampires in particular? that is a much harder sell given vampires’ tendency towards Unbridled Murder

>Do Bigfeet count as furbies
fuck you

>Do Vampires leave ghosts? Where are the cute ghosts in general?
vampires do not. ghosts in general are everywhere

>im thinking abt the idea of kel adopting other ppls wards .... like if a ward was treatly badly by their sire and they ran away and found kel and wanted to be part of her army.. would she let them? or would it be too risky?
she would let them if they were tough enough to be useful to her which is a pretty narrow entry requirement

>scouring vegas like a video game level looking for the unlockable playboy bunny suit for ricardo that he has to wear in all the serious duel cutscenes
your brain is huge
No. 128318 ID: 465a14

can a furby become a vampire
No. 128320 ID: 9582af

Does human blood taste the same for vampires as it does for humans? Apparently it can taste better or worse, but how does that work?
No. 128328 ID: 465a14

followup: who are furby vampires gay for, whose asses do furbpires eat
No. 128330 ID: 270774

fuck you

human blood to vampires just tastes like, Extremely Good. Satisfying. evokes the response of “This Is All I Need.” but it all generally tastes the same, the difference only comes in the actual quality based on the health of the victim (and some vampires are more sensitive to/picky about it than others).
No. 128331 ID: 270774

can. can you eat ass with a beak
No. 128333 ID: 17c2ee

yeah sure if the tongues are long enough i guess you can
No. 128335 ID: 17c2ee

wait nevermind i just remembered birds have, like, teeth on their tongues so probably no ass eating

although maybe that's just geese
No. 128338 ID: b67607

Thank you
No. 128339 ID: b67607

I'm fucking losing it this is the worst thing I've ever read
No. 128340 ID: 17c2ee

i thought of something worse, do you remember Bill & Mandy

i want you to imagine a furby eating ass with a betoothed tongue




furbpires don't bite or drink regular blood they only drink ass and toe blood
No. 128344 ID: b1b4f3

No. 128346 ID: c8452a

Is that a bannable offense
No. 128379 ID: 270774

i love you guys but mention toes in my disthread again and i’ll hunt you for sport like a rich englishman
No. 128382 ID: 465a14

how about foot knuckles specifically, not the rest of the thing
No. 128383 ID: 270774

i’m taking my hunting rifle off the wall and my manservant is fetching my jodhpurs
No. 128384 ID: 465a14

reasonable tbh
No. 128390 ID: c8452a

Oh and not the tooth tongue, I see, I see
No. 128477 ID: c8452a

Is it too early to write an obituary for Ricardo?
No. 128478 ID: 465a14

Quick break from shitposting- it's cool to see sign languages show up in quest panels. Dragon Romance's been doing it for a while with Outissa but I'm kinda hype to see other characters to do it in tvrn, so thanks FRACTAL.
No. 128500 ID: 270774

might as well get it over with

:)!!! ive been rly excited abt introducing this character so i’n glad to see other ppl hyped abt her as well. it’s impossible for me to really pick a favorite of kel’s wards bc i love them all for different reasons but i def have a soft spot for sirloin
No. 128501 ID: c8452a

Got it. If he ends up fighting Lamb I will have something ready.

Sirloin is so cool, I love her attitude and I can't wait to see her fight.
No. 128503 ID: 97d823

howdy!! I think I remember reading smth about certain affinities being linked to like, personality traits?? is that true?? are affinities the hogwarts houses of tvrn??
No. 128504 ID: 270774

thats briefly mentioned in chapter 2; minmin compares it to blood type personality theories and insists it’s accurate. in summary, he says:
- power types are “impatient, straightforward, and too earnest for their own good”
- shifters are “crazy tenacious and resourceful and ... socially an acquired taste”
- he doesn’t say anything about psychic affinities in general, but when ricardo asks about hypnotists like pascal minmin refuses to answer bc he “doesn’t have anything nice to say”
- and specialists don’t fit into affinity typing at all.

that’s all the info u guys have in canon rn!
No. 128505 ID: 97d823

thank u!! <3
No. 128696 ID: 270774
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hey here’s something fun. kel is my oldest oc (at least the oldest one i still have and actively think about/care about) and here’s the absolute oldest art i could dig up of her; probably about 2009ish. (i no longer have an equivalent of the other woman in this drawing; she was a very generic like, Shy Timid Stammering Anime Girl and like i still love tropes but not that one)
No. 128739 ID: 7bc8ec
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think i made her tits too small
No. 128753 ID: 10c408

I have no idea if you did or not.

But when in doubt enhance knockers!
No. 128847 ID: f6aa09
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Here you go.
No. 128870 ID: 270774

there’s always room for more titty. that doesn’t make this any less cute, tho, thanks!
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squeezing in concepts for larger portrait illustrations? in this economy? yes which means i'm just going to post these here so at least you can see them before i inevitably don't finish them
No. 128896 ID: 465a14

why is Lamb holding one of the furbpires
No. 128905 ID: b463f2

these are so beautiful and lovely.... Lamb's is so serene, and the Riscal one effuses stability and joy!
No. 128937 ID: bb78f2

So on a rare chance a human survives a proper vampire feeding (assuming they're throats weren't gouged out like Ricardo does to his victims), is a vampire obligated to finish them off if the human makes it to a hospital (or say they get caught by the police one way or another)?

Now, I'm making the assumption while asking this question that a filling feeding doesn't go way past the surviving point of blood loss and merely near it. Since vampires need to fast themselves to drain enough blood create a ward, I imagine it might actually be possible to survive if the vampire isn't that hungry, but is still hungry enough to want to feed. They bite, drink enough that they're full, the human's bleeding out, the vampire leaves the dying body, and someone discovers the victim before they die and through some luck they pull through, that's the scenario I'm imaganing happen. I don't know what happens to the survivor and I'm curious about it. I don't think it would ever happen in quest, but I help can't be intrigued by the scenario in question.
No. 128958 ID: 270774

well i mean yeah all that happens in a case where a human doesn’t die is....... you have a human with severe blood loss. law enforcement and medical professionals are not particularly going to be like “hmmm i guess vampires are real”

also though to be completely honest i don’t put extensive thought into whether or not the cops are onto vampires because i would find wrangling that insanely boring so i just gloss over it
No. 128961 ID: c8452a

Hey, not dealing with cops is the ideal, so that's great.
No. 128972 ID: bb78f2

It was less the whole cops or paramedics going wild and more like, well now what's the bitten human gonna do now?

Go home, fuggeditaboutit?
No. 128975 ID: c8452a

People deal with trauma constantly. So yeah, probably.
No. 129153 ID: b1b4f3

Hey so... what if Teddy was...
Theodore Roosevelt?
No. 129158 ID: 255b3c

That'd explain some elements of Teddy's relationship with Pascal, what with Teddy being a Rough Rider and all.

I'll see myself out.
No. 129316 ID: 270774
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some little notes on the historical stuff in this most recent update:
1. kel says the trial was 300 years ago; she’s wrong! it was about 400ish years ago.
2. cachtice castle, where elizabeth bathory was imprisoned and died, was actually in what is now slovakia, 500 miles away from where constantin’s current estate is in tvrn (outside alba iulia). it’s also been in ruins since the turn of the 18th century. for tvrn’s purposes, though, cachtice is in full repair, and has also magically always been in central romania, because i say so
No. 129317 ID: b1b4f3

Okay so I've got a couple more ideas on how to deal with the ward shielding:
1, bypass the endurance battle problem. Either by bringing a blood supply to the fight somehow, or by using opponents as the blood supply. Wait, does drinking vampire blood work for recovering strength and regenerating?
2, kill off the wards before the fight. Constantin is a hard man to get alone, but his wards are probably less secure, and he'll probably be sending some of them against us anyway(like in Stardust Crusaders). Kill off enough of them and we can deal with his remaining wards during the duel and still be in good enough condition to fight him.

Depending on the terms of the duel we could do some fucked up shit like hide weapons inside Ricardo's body or outright reinforce his body with subdermal armor. VAMPIRE CYBORG
No. 129496 ID: 094652

I have a theory about Lamb's sect; they're all apocalypse nutjobs who believe that the ultimate purpose of God's children is to bring about the end of the world, thereby completing the task that Noah refused to begin. The only reason they haven't been secretly erased by religious forces is because they're one of the few sects that (1) fanatically believe in the need to purge the world of evil so that good will be the last thing to die, (2) are crazy-effective at hunting bad people, and (3) manage to exude some level of cuteness to creatures of darkness (hence Kel turning a vampire hunter despite how cliche and reputation breaking it is), which prevents a purge of the organization and its recent contacts. The major religions said "oh look, the vamps have a parasite feeding on them, how poetic" and generally ignored them because their fundamental belief that evil must die first meant that they would never target civilians while still using the power of ax-crazy to hunt down everyone else.
No. 129497 ID: bb78f2

are witchblade's stands
No. 129502 ID: 270774

stands, utena black rose duelist blades, magical girl talking animal mascots except angry and pointy. i’m drawing from a lot of genre tropes i like, as usual
No. 129512 ID: 17c2ee
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i did it i hacked the future and found the secret spoilers for the ending of tvrn
No. 129514 ID: b1b4f3

I feel like they wouldn't need to be turbosluts in that case. Having sex like once a week? That's pretty normal for a sexually active relationship I think.
No. 129516 ID: f57349

Once a week for subsistence, sure, but the ones who were trying to hold back and get by with bare subsistence just stuck to drinking blood.

Imagine if you'd spent your whole life eating only raw potatoes after digging them out of the ground with your bare hands. One day, somebody points you at a restaurant where not only could you get as much delicious candy as you want, and cheeseburgers too, keep eating and eating, never get tired or nauseous, but furthermore the folks running the place will sometimes actually pay you to take that stuff, or at least act like you're the one doing THEM a favor? Near anybody with addiction-prone personality traits would immediately dive into that headfirst and never come back out again, and vampires do tend to be deeply tangled up with the idea of addiction.
No. 129524 ID: 270774

fools. i don't need solid worldbuilding reasons to make my vampires all turbosluts
No. 129558 ID: 58c855

yo is lamb trans. idk why i think she is but shes just got the Vibe yanno
No. 129582 ID: 270774

lamb figuring out her gender shit is part of her character arc, actually! so, yes, but she doesn’t know it yet. and as long as the subject is up, strip and rack are both nb as well and sirloin is a trans woman. (this stuff is all going to be referenced in canon eventually but i don’t like character identities being treated as “spoilers”/some kind of big reveal so i never mind casually talking abt them before stuff is made official in the text.)
No. 129624 ID: b0b724

This is awesome. I'm happy to see all of this explored and it's really cool that you're being so open about it.
No. 129627 ID: 04ca3e

Hey is Acid Soup still a thing?
No. 129631 ID: 270774

yep, just haven’t had the vibe/energy for it lately. will probably pick it back up again soon tho bc i have a lot more time on my hands recently

which actually reminds me that i guess i never announced this here but uh. i quit my job to do art full time! that sure is happening. i’m taking a few weeks off to spend time w my girl and also just like celebrate not having a day job anymore but you’re going to see a lot more of me soon in general
No. 129642 ID: 99a682

I have not been on tg chan in a long while so I'm late to the party but Holy Fucking Shit Kel Oh My God Holy Fuck Kel Is So Good
No. 129644 ID: b1b4f3

Kel is definitely my favorite character so far.
No. 129834 ID: 4ffd17

Hey fractal, i realize trying IRC out again didn't work out, but we've got an actual discord now so you might want to try that out. Just in case it being irc was the problem and not, like, Driblis' stinky feet or something.
No. 129881 ID: 75cf31

yeah, tbh it was mostly that i don’t use irc for anything else so i’d literally just forget to open irc up lol. discord i’m on a little more frequently tho i gotta admit my normal MO is mute-n-lurk
No. 129927 ID: 368ebc

I'm so excited to learn more about Lamb!
No. 130531 ID: 75cf31
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drawing melodramatic doodles of characters i want to get to instead of updating faster which would.... get us to them. also listen to brutus by the buttress it slaps
No. 130558 ID: 75cf31
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these are making the rounds on twitter and they're cute and fun
No. 130734 ID: 094652

Lamb knows she's autistic, so she was diagnosed at some point. Did her vamp-hunt family have hobby therapists in their numbers, did they just pretend her autism didn't exist, or did she plain fit in with the other extremist hunters?
No. 130843 ID: 75cf31

she was self-diagnosed initially (her family did not really care abt looking into stuff like that bc it does not prevent you from killing vampires), then got formally diagnosed during the like... essentially the onboarding process when she became a gallowglass soldier
No. 130846 ID: 0dbb7e

wait, did her family actually kill any vampires?
No. 130849 ID: bb78f2

Yeah, man Lamb's family are a bunch of weirdos.

Vampire hunters apparently talk big enough about hunting vampires, but then get slaughtered when they actually enter into practice, despite potentially a lifetime of practice.

I don't even know how they rise up in the first place, let alone attempt to raise a family of traditional hunters. It's like they didn't know what they were getting into despite going INTO it HARD.

They expected Lamb to be good enough to be killing vampires so regularly as a human that Lamb was to forgo human connection because it would effect her killing quota, as if her mother's was impressively high. Her Mom had to have fucked once, minimum, if she didn't have Lamb through invitro fertilization. Did she only have sex to specifically to make more vampire hunters? I mean, I guess she could have had an arranged marriage, but that feels almost like hunter husbandry at that point.

Lamb's family sounds like a bunch of jerks. At least she's doing the job a lot better now than they ever could have. Just a shame about the whole having to feed on human's thing. I wish her Mom was alive, just so we could have a response to how Lamb is doing now.

Maybe a witch can like, tap into the afterlife for a meeting with the Shepard.
No. 132317 ID: 887abe

hi! it’s me! my wife and i finalized all our paperwork and shit and i moved from the us to spain.
i’m very busy getting settled in but also not updating my quests is making my hair fall out and my nails brittle and my skin dull and blemished so as soon as i get a desk chair in the mail (lmao) i’m excited to jump back in again, and i can’t do commissions etc until my residence finishes processing so that means i’ll have much more time for updates than before which i’m rly excited about. thanks, as always, for ur patience
No. 132319 ID: 7ebbf9

Heya FRACTAL, great to hear from you again. Hope you're having fun settling into your new digs!
No. 132327 ID: 094652

How's Spain?

Keep yourselves safe, the virus has been jumping around there.
No. 132340 ID: 887abe

thanks! and we're doin alright. the missus is working from home for now and i can't work/take commissions til my residence card processes anyway so we're just.... stuck in the flat, lol. then again not to be gay but i can't really think of anything i'd rather do than stay home smoking and drawing with my wife anyway sooo this is not the end of the world. all the more time to update quests with
No. 132362 ID: bb78f2

I want you to know that I can't stop thinking about witches ever since they were mentioned long ago.

The Witch OC's won't go away, and I don't even have the ruleset to create them with.
No. 132376 ID: 5b93d3


100% that mood.
No. 132902 ID: 26262d

Hi is TVRN on an official hiatus at the moment ?
No. 133623 ID: 887abe

hi i'm back and i haven't crossposted quest questions from my curiouscat in over a year. i'm going to do that in chunks while i wait for tvrn to get pulled out of the graveyard so i can update

>are there any hard limits to where tvrn could go? like, can we go on live tv and be like 'we're vampires. vampires exist. here's Constantin's address he's a bastard go kick his ass'
mmmm it’s hard to say without seeing the actual suggestions. live tv is a no bc ricardo isn’t that dumb. every vampire on earth would converge to turn him into ground beef if he did that

>Are vamps generally the same temperature as their surroundings? What temperature is a fever/uncomfortable for them?
they’re generally colder but warm up w activity/exertion, and don’t get bothered much by ambient air temperature but are sensitive to temperature via direct contact. hot baths instead of lukewarm/room temp would be unpleasant and it’s one of the reasons pascal doesn’t like touching humans more than necessary

>is vsl mostly like a way to put in a sign language without worrying about drawing the signing and grammar and stuff accurately because if so i COMPLETELY understand. otherwise it comes off slightly awkward (like there is an implication there is a universal "vampirese" spoken language to go with it?)
it’s partially a way to avoid misrepresenting an existing sign language but it’s also a worldbuilding thing — vsl is actually the only standardized vampiric language that exists, and the “vampiric” part of the acronym doesn’t refer to vampiric as an existing spoken language but vampiric as in the collective community. there’s an expectation from the cradle that everyone should just learn romanian at some point and an expectation from the world at large that everyone should just learn english and deaf vampires were like uhhh it’s stupid that a community as inherently international as ours hasn’t bridged this gap yet so we’re just gonna reverse tower of babel it since none of the rest of you are doing it. (communities of disabled or otherwise minority vampires tend to just be like completely divorced from the cradle entirely). vsl has been picked up a LOT more among vampires than forms of sign language have among humans and is generally pretty commonly known

>are there any pisces in tvrn?

>Hi!!! I always thought Kel was calling Ricardo "ribeye" bc she couldn't be bothered to learn his name & to tease him, but now I'm wondering if it's because she saw his potential and wanted to help raise him?? It's cute???
I LOVE U PICKING UP ON THIS it’s a little of both! she was immediately pretty impressed by him surviving so long on his own

>is the cradle only, like, northern/eastern europe? i think you mentioned the Medici once. are they cradle? any other notable southern european families? i'm sorry if this is spoilers
it’s mostly eastern europe and then a scattering of other houses (there is a medici vampiric house, and they are cradle, but they’re cradle bc of eminence rather than location). basically if a vampiric house is powerful enough, theyre welcomed into the cradle as long as they recognize the voivode’s authority, and then get to reap the benefits of that. a lot of vampiric houses operate independently or as part of smaller networks; the cradle is the main political power in europe but isn’t universal. there are a lot of houses that Want to be part of the cradle but aren’t powerful enough to sit at the cool kids table, or who would consider joining but don’t want to be at dracula’s disposal

>are there any other institutions with the same kind of reach/power as the cradle? witch coven, freemason illuminati, werewolf megapack?
this kind of stuff i’ll let you guys figure out in canon!

>I remember you mentioning that American vampires more often turned each other for companionship rather than servitude and it made me wonder if in the tvrn universe, the sire/ward relationship concept is a eurocentric idea compared to other parts of the vampire world?
it is! and also very specifically a leftover of feudalism and Castles.

>i once heard someone say that if you lived long enough (like hundreds of years) the way you look at gender/sexuality would probably start to dissolve because with enough experience you'd see that these structures aren't really based on anything. and, like, that view definitely has some issues. but did you think about of anything similar when making tvrn? or was it more 'i'm going to draw beautiful boys in beautiful clothes' situation?
>p.s. i love the ease of gender expression in tvrn and how everybody can dress to be pretty without it being A Thing which kind of prompted this question
the gender fluidity that happens in tvrn is less a “well someone this old would just start doing that” thing and more just a. the boys i know look like this. the boys i know like stuff like this. i’m really just interested in portraying feminine men and masculine women bc i surround myself w them in many forms at all times

>So,in the universe of TVRN, are there any cryptids or mythological creatures that are like, a legitimate threat for a vampire? Not like, on a systemic level, since the vampires seem to have that pretty well locked down, but on a one-on-one level. Like, is there any other creature that could reasonably take a vampire in a fight?
nope, they are pretty much top dog. their regeneration and immortality are hard to beat. if anything, vampires and fae steer clear of each other bc neither of them want the headache.

>sorry about all the 'is x in tvrn' questions but... Godzilla?
no. no godzilla

>Does something have to exist at the moment to be able to shapeshift into it? Or can Ricardo learn to be a t-rex
no t-rex

>Has there ever been a gallowglass boy or is Ricardo the first? :O
there have been gallowglass wards who eventually realized they were men over time or that they were nb/had no gender/any other number of Gender Shenanigans but from the jump kel only turns women. she has occasionally trained other people’s wards short term, like she is now with ricardo, but like rack said that’s extremely rare

>different anon but what happens if a gallowglass ward ends up being a trans guy?
nothing! i mean it’s not like he’d get kicked out or anything

>do you think we could manage to not get anyone dead in tvrn ?
you can absolutely manage to not end up with anyone dead

>hello! i am currently working on a comic with a vampire in it, and i find myself getting bogged down by all the various vamp lore that exists! how did you figure out what aspects of vampire lore you wanted to apply to your kids, and did you ever find the common lore to lack something you wanted your kids to have?
i don’t think it’s necessarily bad to get bogged down in that stuff! i have a tendency to over-research but i don’t think it’s a bad thing to kind of like, spread everything out on the table before you start so you can make better decisions. for me part of it was just an overall decision on tone — i wanted tvrn to echo old school vampire b movies which is why i chose to really center on the Stereotypical vampire lore, most of which has its roots in hysteria that reached its peak in 18th century eastern europe (which is also why pascal is from 18th century eastern europe). after that it was a matter of just trimming and editing; getting rid of some things for practicality or just bc i find them disinteresting or annoying (no instadeath in sunlight) while emphasizing other parts of legends that usually aren’t considered that important, to make things in tvrn unique while still keeping true to the mythos (big focus on weakness to running water, and expanding that weakness to all bodies of water). for me it boils down to the same advice i always give, which is focus on the stuff that you like and enjoy thinking about, and cut anything that bores you!

okay that's everything from.... march of 2019. jesus lol. anyway sorry for textwalls but i do like having all of this in one place so i will probably keep doing this every once in a while until i'm caught up over here
No. 133624 ID: 094652

Okay now I'm confused, is Strip gender-fluid or did someone gender-curse them between panels?
No. 133625 ID: 887abe

this comes up (i forgot how to crosslink posts between dif boards so forgive the unwieldy link lol) https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/925961+100.html#959131

>“Okay, ladykiller,” Strip snorts. She tilts her head back again, and she’s smiling, and Lamb’s defunct heart does something stupid and strenuous and uncomfortable. “Well, I’m not exactly a girl, so we can call this a totally new experience.”

>Right. Lamb knew that, about Strip — there had been a discussion, when they all first met, about… pronouns, gender, stuff Lamb had never thought about. Rack goes by “they” sometimes, and sometimes Rack and Sirloin call Strip “he” — but Mignon doesn’t, and Strip doesn’t correct people who use “she,” and it always seemed kind of… intimate, somehow, like something Lamb couldn’t join in on in case she might do it wrong. She did ask once, very clumsily, if it meant Strip felt like a boy, and was met with an extremely firm “no,” and since then hadn’t paid much attention, except for sometimes feeling a little out of the loop. But what else is new.

strip's gender hasn't been specifically defined (and i wouldn't say genderfluid is accurate for her or a word she would identify with) but she's nonbinary and uses both she and he pronouns with people she knows well.
No. 137356 ID: acadb9

I'm not sure what happened with TVRN but I miss those characters dearly and hope they return one day. Ricardo has such a special place in my heart. 💛
No. 137363 ID: 96c896

Losing my shit over DWAG not being able to control his handwriting when writing OUTSIDE and CAR RIDE.
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