"so, whoever you are, info like that isn't free, what do you want?"

We lost several humans already and that is concerning, the lack of loyal minions is crippling.

I see 2 ways forward.
1. Ally with mutants, have them guarding our slaves in return for us fighting their enemies (they are less likely to betray you if it is a "trade"). Use free time to gather more slaves. Most likely short term alliance only.
2. Make a bunch of ghouls, arm them, fortify a base somewhere and have the ghouls guard slaves for you. The two of you can then track down the humans from the recent encounter, sounds like there are a bunch of them and they need to be subdued. It seems like a bad idea to waste humans like that at first, but we lost more humans due to lack of manpower... and at least you can survive on crows if you have to.

Anyways, listen to the mutant for now at least.

Sania&Loria 2012/12/09(Sun)17:13 No. 477529 ID: 67ba4b
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Loria turns back to the mutant

Loria: "who are you mutant?"

mutant: "Twisted's the name, Ollie Twisted. Oi specialoise in having things that others want, you could call me a merchant."

Loria: "So Ollie what do you have that WE would want?"

Ollie: "Well given toime Oi can get just about anything, but on me Oi've got two thing Oi think you want, a mystery package fer four trinkets and the ever valuable information one trinket per tidbit."

Loria figures this mutant will accept any objects in good condition, she takes a tally of what unequipped items they have available for trade.

Ipod & headphones
comb
ruined clothing x1
handgun x3 (21 bullets)
(9 shotgun shells)

Backpack
Flashlight
extra battery
extra clothes (panties, gloves)
map (virginia state)
bottle of cheap alchohol
money:23 dollars (mostly change)
swiss army knife
compass
candybars x5
telescope
first aid kit
2 bed rolls
wrench
radio

Get information on
-Crowpeople
-Large groups of humans
-Sticky Fingers gang

Trade
-alcohol
-ipod
-telescope

See if how Ollie feels about getting a cut of the Sticky Finger Gang's take if he helps you clear em out of the sewer. Also ask if he has any other customers who are looking to trade favors.

Consider using Ollie to lure humans into your camp after you get a base of operations.

How much info is a "tidbit".
Is he a representative of the sticky fingers gang or a freelance operators unaffiliated with anyone?

Sania&Loria 2012/12/18(Tue)21:56 No. 479772 ID: 67ba4b
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Loria set's aside the alcohol, telescope and ipod as items for trade.
the crow reaches out with her arms and squacks unintelligibly

Loria: " how much exactly is a tidbit?"

Ollie: "well Oi don't know, guess Oi'll just answer one question."

Loria: "do you work for the sticky finger?"

Ollie: "of course, but we're a fair bunch given the roight proice.

I say we trade him 1 item for the most important question... if his answer is good we trade the rest, if he is too vague/short that we don't.

look at the crow "really? you want this?" hold up the ipod "why should i let you have it?"

Sania&Loria 2013/01/01(Tue)00:13 No. 481662 ID: 67ba4b
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Loria: "really? you want this?"

the crow nods and squacks.

Loria: "why should I let you have it?"

crow: "Let me have treasure! I'll do anything!"

any blood contracts you can do?

>>481662
That's a music player.
Either she's starved for entertainment, or she thinks she can use it to get free.

Birds like shiny things?

The tribe she comes from values gadgets like that immensely. My suggestion is to give it to her in return for her loyalty and devotion and hint that if she continues to do so you will give her more.

Sania&Loria 2013/01/05(Sat)12:07 No. 482610 ID: 67ba4b
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Loria recalls that The BlackTalon Gang values gadgets like this one as "treasure", she figures the crow wanting it has little to do with any escape plan.

"A blood contract would be perfect" she thinks but has no way to create one. however for a creature this weak willed perhaps a clever verbal contract combined with her natural ability to dominate will produce a similar loyalty.

Loria: "I'll have to choose my words carefully . . ."

Sania&Loria 2013/01/23(Wed)10:04 No. 487143 ID: 67bfa9
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Loria: "meh, I'll think of something clever later

the Sister choose to test the knowledge of the Mutant and hand him the bottle of Alchol in trade.

Ollie: "Thank you koindly mum."

Sania: "Tell us about the crows mutie".

Ollie: "Well Oi know three thing bout the Crows, and for this tasty trinket I can tell you bout one of'em.
-one, Oi can tell you bout them's strengths and weaknesses, what makes em tick and what makes em stop tickin.
-two, Oi can tell you bout them's different gangs, bout them's territories and thems major forts and hoid outs.
-three, if there's some scholarly curiosity in you, Oi can tell you a secret bout the crows that nearly no one knows not even themselves, bout where they came from and where they were created.

so what'll it be? oh and if you boiy a second crow tidbit Oi'll give you the third for free!

Ask about territory, if we learn what locations the birds have under control we'll have a better idea of where a secure base could be established or even where we could take one by force.

>>487230
Agreed... it is the most pressing thing to know.
I do want to know all 3 through. if his answers prove detailed we can purchase those later on.

>>487143

Inquire about the territory. Getting to know the lay of the land is important.

Sania&Loria 2013/01/26(Sat)12:40 No. 487704 ID: 67bfa9
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Sania: "Tell us about the territories and the gangs"

Ollie unrolls a small map

Ollie: "Well the strongest of the gangs is the Black Talons Oi believe you've already met them, they think they own everything north of the river. Bored and bloated with power they abuse the other creatures in the city for their amusement, they are incredibly cruel and lust for entertainment above all else. They rule from an uuge tower in the centre of town without wings no one can attack them there. they also have a major outpost to the northwest probably to watch the actions of the Raven Gang, lastly is the grand market where they sell, cook, eat and battle slaves, Oi've eard they trade other things there with anyone willing to go, but that's dangerous buisness to say the least."

Loria: "you mentioned other Gangs?"

Ollie: "Oi did, the Raven gang a mysterious lot, see em from time to time in the west end. BlackTalons think they're prepin for an invasion and don't trust em an inch. What I've heard is that they're looking for arcane artifacts to bring to their forest ome far to the north west. I figure they might ave more local hide outs, but I've not eard of any."

Loria: "Who own's south of the river?"

Ollie: "That'd be the Cloak gangs. Truth be told their more a dozen gangs then one, probably more than twice as many of them as Black Talons but they spend all their energy killing and butchering each other, can't walk to feet with out getting your head lobbed off in that side of town. most sensible people just steer clear and leave them to their fighting."

Sania: "what's the red X mean?"

Ollie: "well that's round where my hole is, close to to where we are now."

Hot damn that's informative. Tell Ollie he has a repeat customer if he's always this useful. Our next target is the cloaks, we need to be cautious to pick them off. Lets stick to following the code if it helps us pick off the cloaks without reprisal.

>>487704

Let's turn the weakest gang into vampires and branch out from there.

>>487711
I thought they didn't know how to make vampires and that the gangs are non-human anyways so are ineligible.

Sania&Loria 2013/02/11(Mon)08:42 No. 492011 ID: 67bfa9
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>Let's turn the weakest gang into vampires and branch out from there.
Sanan and Loria do not yet know how to create new vampires and even if they did the monsters cannot become vampires.

Loria: "Thank you Ollie, your information is fantastic, you'll have a repeat costumer if you're always this helpful."

Ollie: "Oi aim to please ma'am, tis best for buisness."

Sania: "We should wipe out the cloaks! it would be easy!"

Loria: "I'm not so sure, and even if we could, what would be gained?"

Sania: " . . . well it would certainly be fun."

Loria: "there are less risky ways to amuse ourselves, and with actual payoff"

Sania: *yawn*" like what?"

@Ollie: So, both the talons and ravens are those crow people? are there any other species in those gangs or are they uniform in makeup? And what species can be found in the various cloaks gangs?

@Sania: Like enslaving the cloaks... unless she meant wipe them out as a political entity rather then massacre.
We would also benefit from breaking the wills of the human slaves with minimal injury to prevent loss of blood production...
Also of interest is the gang out for getting magical artifacts and knowledge, but I do not think we are ready to capture those non destructively yet (we do not want to risk the destruction of the prize)

Honestly, our biggest problem is that there is only 2 trustworthy individuals among us.
Breaking the wild humans we capture is far too hard because every single one of them is a survivor who managed to last this long. The whimpering simpering cowards that made up the majority of humanity in the past we remember are all long dead or the loyal domestic slaves and toys of others. If we want bloodbags, artisans, and domestic slaves we should go after the domestic slaves of other powerful beings rather then taming wild survivalists.

I thus suggest that we turn every single human we currently have into a ghoul under our control. With a small army of ghouls we should be able to secure and actually KEEP domestic slaves as well as territory. It seems very wasteful but I must remind you that you already lost half your bloodbags due to a crippling lack of loyalty.

The best place to do this would be in the cloaks territory as their infighting keeps them weak and disorganized.

Sania&Loria 2013/04/05(Fri)21:10 No. 504115 ID: 67bfa9
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>So, both the talons and ravens are those crow people?
Loria already knows that the Ravens, Talons and cloaks are all crow people

Loria: "Actually sister you may have a point, Staking out territory through violence may be the only route to power here"

Sania: "Violence is the route to power anywhere~"

Loria: "the only problem is that we can't conquer much with just the two of us . . ."

Sania: "Yes! we need soldier, You there! welcome to my army!"

defiant slave: "huh? URK!"

Sania chooses to transform the slave into a Ghoul.

>>504115
Yay (I don't know how I missed this update).
Ok, now transform the rest of those you currently have and then move in to the cloaks territory to scout.

you know you do need some of them as food... maybe the almost dead one if she starts to slow you down too much.

>>506763
>need some as food
We lost more then half our stock already due to being undermanned.
The argument is that we make all of those into ghouls and then use them to capture new ones. We know there are a bunch all over the place.
And technically we can eat crows, they just taste like ass.

Sania&Loria 2013/05/16(Thu)08:06 No. 511198 ID: 67bfa9
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first ghoul: "Mistreeeess I will seeeerve you till the eeeend of time, I need only to be feeeed"

Sania: "perfect, you will have all the food you can eat."

Sania grabs the half-dead slave.

Loria: "wait sister! we need some of them for food!"

Sania: "we'll find more, for now unpalatable though she is we can use the crow as a bloodbag."
Sania chooses to transform the half-dead slave into a second ghoul.

the last human slave, the dark skinned one starts to beg and plead for mercy.

Great
transform the last one, then move in on the cloaks.

>>511200
Agree with this. Remember to acquire clothing and backpacks/messange bags from the cloaks in whatever manner is permissible under the rules/laws.

>>511206

Are there any loops holes in the laws where you can get the ghouls to gather clothing or are we going to follow the spirit of the law for now?

Spare the black one. Have her be Loria's servant. Or maybe pet.

>>511198
Leave one alive so they can warn the next group what happens when slaves are disobedient. More of an emotional impact that way.

Spare the girl. Have Loria physically stop her sister to garner trust and affection.

>>511228
What? Let her go? That is an insane waste and alone without equipment she will just be captured by the crows or mutants or something.

This is not a punishment. We keep losing slaves and encounters due to being outnumbered. We are simply converting one resource (blood sacks) into another (loyal soldiers) to optimize our ability to capture more resources.
Also we don't want uncaptured groups to know about us and prepare against us. We capture them all by surprise and keep a balanced number of blood sacks and ghouls.

Heck, the ghouls can speak.

>>511207
Do we have a summary or full listing of the Laws anywhere? Can't seem to find one...

Also, tell the last one that unless she is extremely skilled at something useful (clothes crafting would work, giving us information on her factions stores of food and weapons will buy her some time but not get her off the hook) she's getting ghoulified. Scratch that, unless we can make soul binding agreements with mortals (we can't) human servants just aren't worth the effort even if they double as blood bags.

>>511231
Who said we'd let her go?

Sania&Loria 2013/05/26(Sun)21:58 No. 512838 ID: 67bfa9
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>Do we have a summary or full listing of the Laws anywhere? Can't seem to find one...

Loria decide to ponder vampire law beyond the no stealing clothes from the dead thing
one will not slay another loyal to the code save for in duels
one will not slay the servants of another loyal to the code
one will not aid mortals in efforts against those loyal to the code
one will not aid other creatures of darkness against those loyal to the code
one will not be wasteful in the taking of mortal life
one will not write out the code save for the scribes of the dark tomes
one will hear the word of the scribes for they are masters of the laws
any two scribes can overrule any rule once per month
any three scribes can overrule any rule twice per month
any four scribes can overrule any rule thrice per month . . .

Loria can't even recall all of them off the top of her head, there are a bunch revolving around who is permissible to be made into a vampire, but as Loria has no ability to do this they are unimportant. Loria is also aware of a bunch of laws revolving around how to behave in mortal society but as mortal society has collapsed these also hold little importance

>Are there any loops holes in the laws where you can get the ghouls to gather clothing or are we going to follow the spirit of the law for now?
Loria has never considered workarounds before, but maybe if she considers how the laws work and are enforced she can think of something.
-for it to be a legal theft the spirit of the dead thing you've stolen from must be able to identify and tag you with an ethereal mark
-ghosts can not normally tell non-ghosts apart beyond "mortal" "corporeal undead" "fey" etc.
-ghosts however can recognize those whom they've come in contact with shortly before death
-ghosts can also recognize those carrying any part of their earthly remains they died with
-ghosts can only travel half a mile from the largest part of their remains
-ghosts rarely become active less then a week after their death

Loria is not sure if she can find a loophole in this.

slave: "NO! please don't! I'll do anything you ask!"

Loria: "Sania, maybe we should keep this last one alive"

Soria: "why?"

Loria: "she might be fun, like a pet! also maybe she has some skills like tailoring or something?"

Soria: "OH! little miss slave are you a tailor by any chance"

slave: "no, but-"

Soria: "Welp! it's ghoul time then!"

slave: "WAIT! I know where you can find a tailor! a vampire like you! just please don't hurt me!"

>>512838
>one will not be wasteful in the taking of mortal life

Ok, no more making ghouls. You don't want to break the rules, you need a food source, and if you're too incompetent to manage a single slave then you don't deserve to survive.

>one will not slay another loyal to the code save for in duels
>one will not slay the servants of another loyal to the code

May want to talk to Ollie to see if he knows about any active vampires in the area so we can avoid any unnecessary incidents.

Does vampire law have anything to say on what constitutes a fair exchange for clothing? Presumably threatening someone to give you their clothes comes under theft (robbery), but how about implied threats and 'unfair' exchanges (e.g. "I'll buy your clothes for this shiny rock, whilst I happen to not be hungry")?

Those faces are awesome.

It is a waste NOT to ghoul her.

>>/questarch/380872
Ghouls aren't zombies, they are intelligent undead. AND they maintain ALL the memories they had in life.
Ghouls eat meat, human OR animal.

>>/questarch/381408
Each vamp requires 7 healthy adult humans, so we need 14 for both sisters. This increases every time they burn blood on powers, and decreases if they spend a lot of time in torpor in coffin. (but doing that is wasteful of time)

Summary of captives:
Captured 2 kine (heavily blood drained)
Captured 1 crow
2 kine captives of the crow accidentally killed in crossfire
Captured 3 kine, while doing so our first 2 kine captives & crow captive were stolen/liberated by crow.
Recaptured 1 crow and 1 kine (heavily drained, unconscious).
>>462045
2 of our 4 kine lead a lone sister into a trap where encountered 2 extra kine. Forced to killed 3/4 of them and medium drain another.
Lost another kine to mutant attack.
Ghouled 2 of the 3 remaining kine.

So, to sum it all up. We encountered 9 kine and lost 6 of them (5 dead, 1 stolen by crow), and some of them we had to capture more then once as they were escaped/kidnapped. Why? because we were grossly understaffed.
Now we are about to lead an attack on a human gang. If we don't ghoul her then we have to leave back a ghoul to guard her (and there is a high chance of losing both her and ghoul).

The SPECIFIC slave you want to "save" from ghouling (which leaves them sapient and with all memories but altered personality) has PERSONALLY participated in leading us to a trap and LITERALLY shot us in the back with a gun AFTER swearing obedience the first time we captured her.

If you want waifu slaves then we can steal broken house slaves from the various groups around town, especially the crows. Rather then try to domesticate the hardcore survivalists who managed to survive on their own and free so far.
If you want bloodsacks, well then we use our ghouls to guard them and make more ghouls as needed such that we never have more slaves then ghouls. 1 to 1 ratio of slave to ghoul sounds right to me.

Now, you COULD make the argument that after having seen all that happened, NOW she is finally broken and wont backstab us again. Maybe so... but we still need another attacker with us when assaulting the gangs. And we are going to need some protection of the crow captive and our coffins during the attack so we are still grossly understaffed even with 2 vamps and 2 ghouls.

We already have two ghouls. And yet we need blood. Changing her into a ghoul will mean we willl only have one source of blood and we haven't been awake long enough to know if theres a side effect to drinking from the bird. We might need something special from humans that we can't get from it. Turning her into a ghoul will destroy that option for now and humans are rare. Her fear of dying is now very real and very much in her mind. I doubt she wil risk betrayal and death.

>>512937
We need 14 humans, minimum, to feed from. And are literally just about to attack a human gang.

But you know what? fine, she can remain human. We will just ghoul some of the humans we are assaulting instead since ghouling is fast.

>>512918
You think it's a waifu thing? No, they should have ONLY ghouled her since she was the leader, and made an example of her for the others. Instead they did the lackeys first and saved her for last, which was just damned stupid.

Now they need to keep her as an emergency supply for the next time they get shot.

Sania&Loria 2013/06/14(Fri)23:47 No. 517015 ID: 67bfa9
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Loria: "hmm that might prove useful, I shall let you live for now"

slave: "thank you!"

Loria: "good now be obedient and I won't have to change my mind later . . ."

>May want to talk to Ollie to see if he knows about any active vampires in the area so we can avoid any unnecessary incidents.

Sania: "Ollie, you never mentioned anything about other vampires in the city"

Ollie: "Moi info's not the free sort, you know moi proices."

Sania: "grrr . . ."

>And are literally just about to attack a human gang.
Loria and Sania were under the impression they were to assault the cloaks, a crow gang.

>>512886
Loria understands that the living have no rights, stealing from them breaks no vampire law

Sania: *yawn* " I tire and it is almost daybreak, we should rest"

Loria: " . . . yes I tire as well"

wait until daybreak and end chapter? or have Ghouls carry coffins and continue on?"

>>517015
End the chapter

How about trading ollie the telescope for info about other vampires?

>Loria and Sania were under the impression they were to assault the cloaks, a crow gang.
Thanks for the correction.

Sania&Loria 2013/07/22(Mon)17:38 No. 526383 ID: 67bfa9
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Loria and Sania decide to wait until sunset before the recieve more info from Ollie

the Ghouls stand guard while they rest in the coffins

Chapter End