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1107808 No. 1107808 ID: 9bf007

The final part of the cat problem.

Chapter 1

https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/1067335.html

Chapter 2 part 1

https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/1082765.html

Chapter 2 part 2

https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/1095767.html

Side Quest Familiar Unfamiliarity

https://questden.org/kusaba/questarch/res/1098087.html

Spinoff Hero vs Villain Dynamic

https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/1106150.html

Discussion Thread

https://questden.org/kusaba/questdis/res/140583.html
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No. 1107809 ID: 9bf007
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No. 1107811 ID: 6d5273

C
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No. 1107812 ID: ca56f7

B) no where to go but through.
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No. 1107817 ID: 6c233e

B)
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No. 1107821 ID: a92549

Determined. Just have to be sure it's the cat and/or dredge.
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No. 1107848 ID: 315736

A)
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No. 1107862 ID: 9bf007
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No. 1107867 ID: ca56f7

A) and if that's ignored then move to C)
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No. 1107868 ID: 4254a2

A, intimidation has always been our method so far.
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No. 1107887 ID: 6c233e

A) can you risk it spider? even bound my sting is deadly
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No. 1107888 ID: b155ed

3. Let it underestimate its enemy for surprise is all the bug has. Surprise can be enough.
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No. 1107896 ID: 721a1c

When in doubt chat it out. A)
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No. 1107899 ID: 9bf007
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No. 1107900 ID: 6d5273

B. Now that the spider has taken the wasp's stinger, the wasp can focus on escaping while the spider is distracted chowing down on the stinger
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No. 1107912 ID: 721a1c

B) And wasp waddled away, waddle waddle and she wadaled away waddle waddle.
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No. 1107915 ID: 769abb

Hope you all have learned a valuable lesson here. When all you have is surprise, don't give away the plan you have. Wait forget that - just don't give up the plan under any circumstances. Still, we did get a little intel. Spider's dying and weak so even biting may do enough damage.
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No. 1107923 ID: 6c233e

C) defiant to the end
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No. 1107941 ID: ca56f7

B). if she's close enough to bite the spider can bite back too.
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No. 1107955 ID: 9bf007
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No. 1107956 ID: 6c233e

Too much damage to survive in the wild, take him down with you
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No. 1107960 ID: 6d5273

Yeah, there’s no way to survive in the wild in this state, but you could use your sacrifice to help call and feed your colony. When a wasp is threatened and/or killed, they release pheromones to attract other wasps to help take down the threat. And Now that the spider is down here and away from its web, let’s attack the thread of web so it can’t take us back up into the web when we release the pheromones. Would be bad if we released those pheromones while we are stuck in the web again
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No. 1107962 ID: 6d5273

oh wait, those aren't web threads, those are just puppet strings for the story.

my suggestion still stands, start releasing those pheromones to attract other wasps for your sacrifice. your life is to serve the colony, and as long as the colony is safe from the spider, and is able to feed upon the spider, you have served your purpose.

that said, we can't die too soon, the main goal is to tire it out so it is too sluggish as it climbs back to its web when the colony comes to help.

go for A
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No. 1107975 ID: 53c5ef

haste makes waste. A).
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No. 1107988 ID: bea528

Run try to make the spider tired
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No. 1108017 ID: ee21ec

Well it's mutually assured destruction here. Pretty much no winning moves. Except diplomacy which is not happening... wait a minute. Got a rival wasp hive?
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No. 1108018 ID: 9bf007
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No. 1108022 ID: aa625a

Priorities. First the wasp must become whatever it has to for survival. Or put simply to thrive you must first survive. Once survival is no longer an issue would be when to develop beyond survival.
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No. 1108034 ID: 6c233e

B) you might not be the big bad wasp you were, but you can still help your family. Maybe they won't reject you after all
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No. 1108036 ID: 6d5273

B. Your purpose is the hive. Even if they choose to eat your body as they view you as useless, you will accept it if it means feeding the colony, the queen, and the larvae’s. It’s in your nature as a wasp
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No. 1108061 ID: d6b4db

A) Become a spiderman villain.
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No. 1108067 ID: ca56f7

what if.... C)
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No. 1108078 ID: 9bf007
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No. 1108091 ID: c8bfd9

C)
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No. 1108094 ID: 6c233e

C)
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No. 1108118 ID: d6b4db

This is getting out of hand now there are two of them. C)
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No. 1108121 ID: a4db53

B. Sounds like a story Madam Maggot Throat would tell.

Feels like a story about our son Scorching Savior
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No. 1108127 ID: 9bf007
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1108127

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first question:

A) It would be for the best to pretend like this never happened.

B) No need to hide what we did.

C) I want our relationship to blossom, not end.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1108161 ID: 8b3f65

Seeing how spur of the moment this was... seems like a thing you should be evasive with. We will not confirm or deny what happened. Plus there's a political consideration to be made. Dunno how her dad will see this one night stand...
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No. 1108164 ID: d6b4db

I see Nasty more as a friend than somebody to start a relationship with. What you two had was a beautiful moment before the sex started and tell her that you will be eternity grateful for that.
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No. 1108168 ID: ca56f7

how about a... private situationship
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No. 1108193 ID: fd169b

C) Your dad said that because a princess is a bargaining chip. You're your own person, you can be with whoever you want.

Its too soon to make this some kind of official thing. Lets see where it goes without making any sort of announcement. But you don't have to hide it either.
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No. 1108231 ID: a4806c
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1108231

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first question:

A) I am not sure if I am willing to experiment that much.

B) Maybe I am willing to give it a try.

C) Definitely, I won't miss it that experience with you.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1108243 ID: fd169b

B) if you're trying new things then might as well. Take it easy though, no rush. Remember, you're not dying today
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No. 1108244 ID: 6d5273

B
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No. 1108249 ID: f6562c

B)
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No. 1108302 ID: b15061

Well Victorio is the obvious candidate. Only question is does he only have eyes for Bobbie?
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No. 1108321 ID: 9bf007
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1108321

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first question:

A) No, thank you but no.

B) No, just no!

C) NO!

D) No.

E) no

F) nO

G) Other suggestions.
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No. 1108324 ID: fd169b

"Just had one of those, so we're good, thanks."
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No. 1108344 ID: c8bfd9

no chance in hell thanks
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No. 1108349 ID: 28d147

F)
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No. 1108363 ID: 6d5273

E, the flattest no
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No. 1108408 ID: 1afabf
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Gotta be even more dismissive.
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No. 1108420 ID: 9bf007
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1108420

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Put on the beak.

B) Refuse to put on the beak.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1108421 ID: 6d5273

Considering he tried to prank us before by pretending to be turned to stone when we first met him, I feel this beak thing is another prank attempt… let’s try to play along with the gag!

Have Abdle wear the beak, then Abdle, start squawking!
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No. 1108435 ID: f134f1

...Loophole abuse? He said wear it but failed to specify where. Pin it on like a lapel.
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No. 1108447 ID: ca56f7

>>1108435
seconding
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No. 1108449 ID: 31dcbb

Let's try to wiggle our way out of putting the beak on our face.
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No. 1108450 ID: fd169b

Take Rock aside and explain that this is a very stressful time, so if this is another prank its going to be the end of your relationship.
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No. 1108537 ID: 9bf007
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1108537

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) I give you my permission and ask nothing in return.

B) What do I get from helping you?

C) No I don't know you.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1108539 ID: fd169b

So you are asking for food and lodging (and discretion) for how many troops? We could set something up in one of the towers, and they need never interact with anyone on the ground, let alone humans.

But what will you offer in exchange? Its in his interest to assist in our fight, as if the bulls win he gets nothing.
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No. 1108555 ID: 6d5273

strategic position? sounds like his troops actually need this resting place to help them with their war. He's very vague about it too, and helping him without question would probably mean we are getting involved with a war that we know nothing about between two kingdoms we know nothing about. I want to hear more about what is going on before we make our decision, as I don't know if we should be getting involved and making another kingdom our enemy when we already are dealing with an enemy kingdom currently. We're not quite sure if what Steinhardt kingdom fights for is something we approve of or not. Plus, I'm not sure if he would want to get involved with us once he learns that we are dealing with tensions with another kingdom ourselves

I think if we want to stay neutral in this affair, we shouldn't. Most we can probably do is offer to trade some of the weapons we make for money as a neutral party, but that's it. But really, we should be hearing about who this seagull is, and what he really needs this strategic position as he puts it for.
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No. 1108557 ID: 60065a

>>1108555
You raised a good point, why exactly do you need the position of this castle?
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No. 1108569 ID: e715a5

We'd be in breach of that before we even agreed. We do have human agents who live in the castle. Plus allied human diplomats get housed when needed. We can't even assure that other humans won't find his forces as we have a human mercenary captain whose forces are on the way to us. We don't have exact intel when he'll arrive. However if he is willing to chance exposure by aiding our garrison and is fine with human agents we command we'd happily provide hospitality for his people. (Or we could tell him none of this and feign ignorance of these issues but it would take little investigating to unravel that thread so probably a bad choice.)
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No. 1108678 ID: da1470
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1108678

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) I will accept your people.

B) I want a better reward for helping you.

C) No I don't want to be part of this war.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1108701 ID: ca56f7

if he has people that can fly that he'd be willing to lend it would be a strategic advantage for us, either as spies, scouts, or messengers. aiding him in his war by hosting his troops is a huge favor and emphasizing this is important. especially if there's the possibility of them stirring up trouble.

i'd say B), but phrase it as giving a favor and expecting one back of equal return.
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No. 1108716 ID: fd169b

We have a close ally who is a mermaid. That isn't going to be a problem, right?
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No. 1108724 ID: 6d5273

>>1108716
yeah, that is a very good point. Would it be too risky to even mention our interactions with that mermaid? I wouldn't want to be labeled as an enemy if he finds out we are associated with her.

my thoughts right now, there are still quite a bit of unknowns, and with him just now mentioning wanting to make his attack while the god of the sea is at it's weakest is pretty much a red flag for me. it seems like what he is doing is potentially going to be angering a god, and having a god come against us for revenge might not be the best outcome in the long run if we directly help him. There are plenty of ways the worshipers of the sea can deduce Steinhardt's people were hiding in our tower to make their attack from a strategic position. Sure it would be great to have his help in return against iron dredge, and the cat, but at what cost? And if Steinhardt's plan is to annihilate the god of the sea, that might cause unbalance to the nature of this world.

C is my choice. Let him know you wish to remain a neutral party in this venture at this time. If Steinhardt insists, then maybe say the least we can do is make and sell him some weapons, but that's as far as a line we are willing to cross. though we might need to get some materials for that.


Of course, if he is offended and angered by our refusal and threatens us, well, it would be better to have him as an enemy than the kingdom under the sea who has a god on their side.
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No. 1108727 ID: 71eba9

C) Getting Bobbie involved in a war than she knows nothing about is not a best tactic. He might be mad about it but better to be safe than sorry.
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No. 1108737 ID: 87f492

We need plausible deniability of this whole thing. We have no desire to be caught up in this if it goes bad. "Officially" your troops are here to help us with a mercenary problem and them suddenly leaving was not what we had been offered. We are a "new naive leader" so falling for a ruse is within expectations.
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No. 1108763 ID: fe3db5
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1108763

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Accept his offer.

B) Refuse it.

C) Other suggestions.

Forgot to give credit to the person who created Steinhard and it is Yonell. He is at the Official QuestDen and a really talented artist.
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No. 1108776 ID: ca56f7

i don't like the tone of this guy and his threats, but having a scorned warmonger against us would put us in an even worse position. we dont have to actively help him, just let his troops stay where they need to and nothing more.

if anyone asks, we can lie/feign ignorance and say that he told us that he needed somewhere to put his people while they're migrating. have the troops specifically dress as civilians and keep all weapons away while on our turf. they can store all that in their supply wagons with covers.
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No. 1108783 ID: fd169b

Well its a lot to ask, getting us involved in another conflict while we're in the middle of our own. I wouldn't say no full out, but it will need to be negotiated, and there isn't really time right now.

So for now offer him what hospitality you can, but we can't commit to anything.
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No. 1108791 ID: c46c11

I don't like how he speaks and not just about the need for a settlement for his troops but also how he looks at the castle. He gives me the vibes that he doesn't belive that this stronghold will last long and that is only a matter of time before it falls. Refuse his plan but in a polite way, we don't need more enemies.
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No. 1108907 ID: ee95ba

Stated my opinion previously though we should emphasize there will be "diplomatic consequences" for any blame that falls on us. (Which means we will react - our most severe response would be to actively aid his enemies. He's probably got more than the sea people. Lesser responses would be raising his public awareness among humans, or actively alerting his enemies if he uses force to get his way here. Sovereignty is non-negotiable to us.)
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No. 1108908 ID: 6d5273

my biggest concern was him mentioning: "the attack that I am planning to order on my hated enemy will happen only when the god of the sea is at its weakest power". Honestly, I am not quite sure if we would want to be associating with this war if it involves going up against a god, one that has control over a domain, y'know? especially if said god is a vengeful one, or if weakening a god causes problems to the natural order of nature. Currently, If I had to choose between making enemies with a war monger, or a vengeful god, I'd rather it be the war monger.

I wanna know what he meant about an attack when the god of the sea is at its weakest power? like, If this war is all about getting revenge against a leader for killing his father, why is he also going up against a literal god to do that?
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No. 1108938 ID: c45b52
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1108938

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Do as you are instructed.

B) Refuse it.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1108940 ID: 92e075

Huh? What power do you have over Rock guy here? He's a merchant who sells stuff. Like is his house in your territory or some such?
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No. 1108943 ID: 6d5273

C. we will give the device to the crow, but first, I want Orbital to scan the strange device. Better to be prepared for what they might be planning first, then we can play dumb later and prepare for whatever that device can do.


We will need to give those rat a proper burial
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No. 1108944 ID: fd169b

I don't see what Rock can do here, but he does owe us that iron.

Obviously we're inspecting this device before we speak to the prisoner
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No. 1108945 ID: 6d5273

Oh right, to be specific, bring the package in privately, THEN get orbital to scan it. Don't scan it out here where these two can see him, Orbital is like, our secret. Can't have too many people see what he can do.
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No. 1108963 ID: f4a393

Something is not right, the time of exchange was supposed to be at midnight but this is just the start of the day and the letter mentions that it will start soon. Is the cat changing her plan or was it never meant to be at the original timing.
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No. 1108993 ID: c45b52
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1108993

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Give him the device.

B) Don't do it.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1108994 ID: fd169b

Before even mentioning the device, its time for a discussion. He seems like a nice kid, if he wants out of this mess now is the time to walk away. Because if he gets caught again he'll get worse than a broken leg.
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No. 1108998 ID: 60555d

Ask him, why did you pay him a visit so early in the morning?
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No. 1109008 ID: 6d5273

8 ghost cats
so the cat has already died 8 times previously, she's on her last life then. sucks that we are being spied on, but hey, since we're demon spirits, I wonder if we can directly speak to them?

so she took all that trouble to go all the way to the territory of the goblins who attempted to kidnap the goblin prince to kill our rat spy. We have to consider at this point that she probably alerted the goblin kidnappers that we tried to spy on them. worst case scenerio she negotiated with them to come with her to the meeting point as thanks for helping them get rid of our spy.
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No. 1109025 ID: 38a2b1

is there a way to expel the ghost cats from the area? now that we know they're there we should get rid of them asap
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No. 1109044 ID: ade319

Oh right, C talk with the crow a little before we give device

I want to ask him this: “Are you aware that the cat is on her final 9th life?
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No. 1109057 ID: c45b52
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1109057

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) I don't know.

B) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109062 ID: 6d5273

(edited)

In hindsight, it was probably a good idea not to ask leaf leader or that seagull for help, if she only wants one person to go, if Leaf Leader or Steinhardt came to help too, that would have been the end of the hostage's life.

the bad news is that if only one person can go, and we send Bobbie, we can't do the disguise plan as that would require Pokondirana to follow Bobbie. So the work around will have to be...

B. We will be sending the "Cruelty of Death" to deliver the apple. You really didn't want to do this, but the death entity known as the "Cruelty of Death" intends to follow you to the meeting point to see the cat whether you want to or not, regardless of the hostage's life. And seeing as you can't go with the Cruelty of Death following you and risk ending the hostage's life, you have no choice but to let Cruelty of Death deliver the apple for you. A shame too, sadly you won't be able to speak out and dispel the situation to prevent any death from happening at the meeting spot.

Sorry Bobbie, unless that scare is not able to convince them to let both you and Pokondirana disguised as death to go, you will have to sit this one out. Pokondirana will be going in disguise of Cruelty of Death with Abdle. you wait here and give moral support to your people, maybe speak with the goblin prince in the meantime.

Before they leave, you will need to give Pokondirana that antidote Wormworks gave you. Non zero chance the cat will retaliate seeing "death" itself deliver Abdle. Abdle can probably use his new ability to make it pretend its Cruelty of Death's ability if needed.
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No. 1109063 ID: ddc903

>>1109062
We can say that Bobbie needs to dress up for her summoning ritual and then get closer to the actor. When that is done we the lesser demons can tell him the plan in a way that the bird won't be able to hear it.
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No. 1109084 ID: bdb438

Wait wait wait, scratch what I said earlier cause I just realized, and feel dumb for not thinking about this obvious detail that can in some ways help is stick to our original plan regardless of her rules:

Tell the crow the cat is actually in no position of power to be making demands like this. Just as she has a hostage she is threatening the life of, so do we. Ask the crow just how much the cat really values his life, and make it clear to the crow that depending on how much she cares about him, if she kills your hostage, regardless of any rules you break, the crow is as good as dead. After all, notice how she never said anything about letting the crow go free, we can still keep him in a cage and tied up, and still have him take us to the meeting point, if he values his life.
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No. 1109149 ID: 83ecee
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1109149

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) I don't know.

B) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109155 ID: 8587c4

Obviously this situation is not ideal. When ruthless calculus is applied given all we have at face value... options are save one elite gobbo while leaving her support ally alive or both die. Hate to say it but Gram is more easily replaced, even if we're forced to hire elite gobbos from other clans. However the key is *at face value*. Only crow here knows what the message said. His orders may have been to get us to an ambush. Plus the whole "dead rats" thing seems like a pressure tactic to get us to rush without careful considerations. Since none were ours she's just playing mind games with us. Should we wish to stall... demand proof of life. Her message proves her accomplice is alive but we have no proof Gram is still alive. Hate to say it but the wisest course is to see Gram as already dead. We lose too much flexibility if we assume he's alive and will survive this whole thing. We do still want him alive, however that is secondary to other goals.
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No. 1109160 ID: fd169b

two things:
One, screw this. Being a 'smart' leader, like Wormworks wants. Stand up for yourself and your people.

Two, this exchange puts the cat at a set location. No more sneaking around. It could be the best opportunity we will get to eliminate her.

I don't have a full plan yet, but some things to consider:
The kenku knows we had Abdle disguised as a golden apple before. If we could get another golden apple we could bring it instead of Abdle as a bluff. If questioned by the cat could say that Abdle wouldn't willingly come, so it was necesary to gild him.

Another thing, making use of the curse. We could have the spiders whip up a glove with iron cat's claws. Then Bobbie could reach through anyone by "attacking" them. Showing up with the kenku with a knife to his throat; that's a known factor, the cat will know how to deal with. Showing up with a hand wrapped around his heart; that's intimidating, an unknown power.
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No. 1109161 ID: 721a1c

Well falling back on the plan to send the actor playing death after the cat seems like a way to go.
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No. 1109170 ID: 6d5273

Tell the crow the broken leg wasn't for no reason, he was guilty in helping the cat steal the townspeople's food, valuables, heckling us during our speech to lower popular opinion, trying to distract us so the cat could kidnap abdle. He has no right to claim he's holier than thou when the cat has murdered and harmed more lives than we ever had. He's lucky he got away with a broken leg, some kingdoms cut people's hands off for stealing for example.

anyway, I'm thinking of that wasp vs spider story, and thinking just fuck it, just go alone and improvise against whatever happens without a plan. A shame because I spent all that hard work helping outfit for that plan. Hopefully Cruelty of Death will like the disguise we made enough and give us a break if Bobbie and Abdle dies during whatever game we have to play to bring them back to life, I really really don't want all my time and effort to end up being for absolutely to next to nothing

We'll just have to go let the others know to fortify the castle while we're gone, so that if the worst happens, they can defend themselves. Victorio will take command until we get back, or if we don't come back I guess. Pokondirana can wear the costume, and I don't know, threaten and scare the cat souls from the window. Maybe can send some threatening messages to the cat sould saying her 9th is theirs to make the cat more nervous at the meeting and slip up.

It'll be like that wasp and spider story. we're caught in the web, we're going to take heavy damage that will cripple us probably in some ways, but in the end, if we play our cards right during this meeting, we will somehow become stronger than we are now. We do have some powers in our possession like the one Abdle got from the dream. Just a matter of figuring out how and when to use it.

I wonder if Abdle can put thoughts in the cat's head like he did with Heartbeat if she holds him, or if that's only in his golden apple form.
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No. 1109173 ID: 83ecee
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1109173

Describe the plan of action to Pokandirana.
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No. 1109178 ID: 049f89

The idea is to convince the crow and cat spirits to allow Bobbie to go with “cruelty of death” using scare tactics

We summon fake cruelty of death by making a fake sacrifice with a knife on a goblin or anybody willing to act as the sacrifice (Bobbie can’t harm them remember) they will act terrified and then play dead after Bobbie stabs them, and then cruelty of death arrives thanking for the cruel sacrifice, taking the sacrifice away, introducing himself as cruelty of death and ask what our request is. This sacrifice is to make this charade look convincing

From there we request him to deliver the apple, and he agrees as he has been wanting to see the cat for an overdue appointment,

If we manage to scare them well enough, we can see if the crow and cat spirits will let bobbie come too to ensure that Death won’t kill during this transfer, but cruelty of death will want to keep hold of the apple to make sure Bobbie doesn’t break out of this deal and he meets with the cat
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No. 1109196 ID: fd169b

But aren't the cat spirits there to warn Shadowcat if more than one person comes to the exchange? So if they see death coming they'll warn her and she'll just stay away.

Need a big cloak so 'death' can do a big reveal when they get to the location.
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No. 1109198 ID: 0d525a

>>1109196
Agree, Let's keep the presence of death a secret for our cat friend.
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No. 1109229 ID: 83ecee
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1109229

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first one:

A) That plan sounds risky.

B) Well it is better than going alone.

C) No this is a bad idea.

D) Other suggestions.


Possible answers to the question that was asked for the second one:

A) Bobbie should be the one to bring Abdle to the cat.

B) Bobbie should be the one to bring Abdle to the cat.

C) Bobbie should be the one to bring Abdle to the cat.

D) Bobbie should be the one to bring Abdle to the cat.

E) Bobbie should be the one to bring Abdle to the cat.

F) Bobbie should be the one to bring Abdle to the cat.

G) There are no other suggestions!
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No. 1109264 ID: 6d5273

A, but we're still going to do that. I like the idea, but I think it needs a bit of tweaking because we have a total of 8 cat ghosts prowling around outside the castle. If we are going to make this work, we're going to need some of our followers do something to catch their interests to keep their eyes off the cloud.

I will think of an idea for a distraction idea soon.

for the second suggestion, yeah I agree, Abdle should be the one to bring Bobbie to the cat.
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No. 1109266 ID: 20a571

Perhaps have gobbo scouts in hooded robes (or whatever the actors use), well, scout the area surrounding the meeting? Far enough away to not be with us. Have 'em looking for signs of ambush. However their actual purpose is to cause false positives for the ghost cats. Harder for cat to see the real plan if we keep the ghosts busy with nonsense.
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No. 1109282 ID: fd169b

Its a risk because it hinges entirely on the cat being afraid of death, we'll see how true that is.

Bobbie needs to go because only a bluff will get us out of this. We've seen we don't have anyone strong enough to fight her.
Remember what I said about bringing something small and sharp! We'll need all our tricks to bring Gram and Abdle home.
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No. 1109285 ID: 84992d

C) but at the same time we have no other options so better something then nothing.
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No. 1109302 ID: 6d5273

One distraction idea for the souls: after Bobbie and abdle leave, a little after, Gramleza and Grimlith could put on a show where one of them is pretending to sneak out of the castle, and another one spots them and pleads with them not to leave. They start arguing for the cat spirits to see, allowing the performing crew to escape with their cloud trick. we probably won't get all eyes on them, but the more that is distracted seeing the argument, the less of a chance for the spirits to spot the performing group.
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No. 1109304 ID: 29c1fe

>>1109302
i do like this idea. i think we should follow a controlled chaos approach in terms of distraction. there are 8 ghost cats after all, and we'd theoretically have to distract All of them if we want to be the most effective.

we could have people start "fights" or arguments simultaneously, maybe over the same perceived reason like ppl disagreeing ab sending one agent and wanting to "go against orders" and others enforcing "bobbie's decision" ending with clashes. or even some wanting to flee bc they perceive things will "end badly" and want to save their own skins
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No. 1109309 ID: 83ecee
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1109309

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first one:

A) It is for summoning the Cruelty of Death.

B) It is for summoning the God of Poison Healing.

C) Why spoil the surprise.

D) Other suggestions.


Possible answers to the question that was asked for the second one:

A) Put down the bird.

B) Continue to carry him.

C) I don't care what you do with him.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109343 ID: 6d5273

Since we managed to get on track to the original plan of sending the performing group and taking a more sneaky approach, there's no need to summon cruelty of death. but we have to summon something to be true to our word.

B if god of poison healing exists, if not, D, god of healing.

God of poison healing seems way too oddly specific and sounds fake, does that god even exist? If so, go with that, if not, then go with just god of healing, that seems more believable. Say that the cat has ways to poison you with arrows, and you want to take precautions and have the god of healing bless you against poison in case the cat just shoots you after the exchange before you leave. If the crow asks why not have the god heal against all wounds, say that something like that would require a harsher sacrifice that you are not willing to take.

Thankfully we have that potion so that we don't be seen as a liar in case the cat does attempt to poison us.

I'd say C, but that would mean the crow thinks we are summoning someone to follow us. A is kinda the same as that will make him alert the cat spirits we're bringing someone with us.

A. Drop him. warn him to brace for impact since we all know Gramleza is just going to literally drop him. tell him he can speak with Abdle while you dress since he seems to be staring at him. seems like he wants to ask or tell Abdle something.
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No. 1109347 ID: e95c90

How perfect that Gramleza out of all goblins is here, if there is anbody who can make a huge scene or whipe others into frenzy it is this troublesome female. We should secretly tell her about our plan and that she should make a huge distinction while we are leaving the castle. I have feeling that she will overdeliver.
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No. 1109353 ID: fd169b

well why don't you sit on him then Gramleza

C) while he's distracted say something flippant like "it summons your doom."
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No. 1109393 ID: 83ecee
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1109393

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Yes, it is a weapon.

B) They are good luck charms.

C) They are used for distraction.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109394 ID: 6d5273

D. those are skipping stones that has been enchanted by Nalthar with music magic. They emit low frequency sounds that he can track where you are going. as you are heading to the exchange, you are to sneakily leave a trail of them for the performers to track where you are going. Sorry for forgetting to mention that.
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No. 1109399 ID: fd169b

>>1109394
what he said
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No. 1109427 ID: 38a2b1

the skipping stones play a low frequency tune called ricky rocks rollers
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No. 1109436 ID: a11be9

Aww, I am so glad that Gramleza and Kenku are getting along.
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No. 1109439 ID: 86980a

Well they could be used as tracking beacons in short-range. Like put one on an enemy and have spies follow. Or assassins. Perhaps if they had longer range they'd be good homing beacons for magical artillery or similar stuff. However their use as-is is for the actors to follow us as a trail. Perhaps we plant one on kenku here?
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No. 1109445 ID: 373ac4
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1109445

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first one:

A) Just wake up Abdle.

B) Stop talking.

C) Maybe you have a point.

D) Other suggestions.


Possible answers to the question that was asked for the second one:

A) Give an uplifting speech.

B) Give an optimistic speech.

C) No time for talking, only moving forward.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109457 ID: 9e6fc1

For the speech, We wasted a little bit of time talking with the performers, arguing with the crow, and pretending to summon a god. Plus, if we give a speech about us leaving, there’s a chance a goblin or two would want to sneak out and follow us. Best to keep our departure hush hush and not have a speech

Hi Grey Opportunity! Glad you’re here, we miiiiiight need your help while Abdle is sleeping but it depends on what you and the others say


Sooooo, a couple things, if we don’t do this, the cat will continue to attack, and be more aggressive about it. We gotta nip this in the bud before it gets worse. But If it will ease your worries, we lesser demons do have a contingency plan for if Bobbie and Abdle passes away during this meeting that could revive them.

Now my idea: since Abdle is asleep, and gray opportunity is back, what if we offer the crow to wear Bobbie’s crown while Abdle is on it? That way, gray opportunity can invade into the crows mind, maybe plant some thoughts into him, see if we can see what exactly the cat is planning. We shouldn’t have to worry about him flying off with Abdle if gray opportunity influences him not to, and even so, we can keep his wings tied up as we travel

Alternatively, we cooooould probably also see if gray can find out where the meeting place is so we can go without the crow and keep him trapped in here (just make sure he has no visitors) nothing in the rules says he has to come with us, right?
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No. 1109481 ID: fd169b

Everybody is busy, or should be busy. don't drag them over to hear a speech.

You're right Grop, its not the smart thing to do. But the question is, does Bobbie want to live longly or live rightly. This is the right thing to do, to be a queen with no regrets. And with luck she won't have to die for it.
Now get out of here and give Abdle back.
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No. 1109486 ID: 8a5bec

I’d rather have gray opportunity here personally, let the poor apple demon sleep, he didn’t get a good nights rest because of Bobbie and Nasty having fun
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No. 1109488 ID: e0c517

We would still like Gram back of course because he's our elite. Loyal too. Very useful for training our other gobbos. While the attempt should be made we can't be optimistically naive and expect it all to go well. We're flexible on who goes. So Gray - got any suggestions on who goes? ...Oh and if it goes sour can you fry the cat's mind? Per the speech, short and simple. "Dead or alive we leave nobody behind."
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No. 1109493 ID: 4c4c6e

Despite how much gray does like this plan he can be useful in the upcoming event. So try not to make him too angry.
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No. 1109553 ID: 373ac4
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1109553

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first one:

A) That is not what we agreed on, the cat is constantly changing things.

B) No, I won't do it!

C) Extend the hand with Abdle in it.

D) Other suggestions.


Possible answers to the question that was asked for the second one:

A) No I don't have any crutches and you can't remove the leash, you will just have to limp.

B) You can remove the leash.

C) You can climb on my shoulders and I can carry you, but still keep the leash.

D) You can climb on my shoulders and I can carry you and I will remove the leash.

E) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109558 ID: fd169b

Give it a kick. when that doesn't work show it Abdle, at a distance.

As for birdie sure take off the leash, but no walking for you. Its more princess carry for this silly bird.
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No. 1109563 ID: 38a2b1

call me paranoid but i dont think we should be taking everything kenku says at face value even if it's all we have. especially when they keep pulling unpredictable moves like this. if they can change their minds, how do we know if they'll even honor their word? that construct could be insurance to confirm that it's abdle or it can do some other surprise that'll catch us off guard.

A).. and the leash stays on. princess carry agreed.
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No. 1109569 ID: a3adfa

Demon tracker huh? If I knew they had that, we could have taken a decoy and we could have huddled near the decoy to trick it into thinking there’s a demonic presence. Ah well. Maybe we can rush into the castle, get a crutch and Mr yakbeet disguised as Abdle again, hide real Abdle, and show the tracker Mr yakbeet disguised as Abdle as we huddle around him to trick it? But then, how long would it take for Yakbeet to get back in disguise? Hmmm

Otherwise, maybe we can show it Abdle from a distance, but then I can get in front of Abdle and get up close to it as a guinea pig to make sure it doesn’t do anything to Abdle, as I act as a shield.

Leash off, carry. That will make the crow more willing to grab Abdle, and Gray can do his thing if he takes the bait… unless we try a gamble with taking yakbeet disguised as Abdle, otherwise leash stays on
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No. 1109572 ID: 4c4c6e

As much as I don't like it we will have to interact with this stupid looking thing and show Abdle to it. For the bird carry him and remove the leash.
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No. 1109579 ID: 7e654e

How do we know it won't just swipe Abdle and dash off? Leash stays on - we'd be foolish to give a hostage a chance to escape. Just improvise crutches with wood. Forested area should have branches of approximate size and strength.
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No. 1109603 ID: 6d5273

Oh wait, I just realized, if we are going to carry him on her back, will bobbie be able to leave a trail while carrying him at the same time?

Maybe Bobbie can say since his leg is broken, she'll only use one arm to support him so he doesn't harm the other leg, so that she can use her free arm to drop the pebbles.

but this is all the more reason not to use the leash, cause THEN her hands won't be free if she's using one arm to slightly support him, and has the leash on the other hand..
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No. 1109617 ID: 373ac4
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1109617

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) I hate that construct.

B) I hate this exchange.

C) I hate the cat.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109636 ID: fd169b

You guys should stop hanging out with a murderer
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No. 1109645 ID: 4c4c6e

While you are on the walk with the bird try to be friendly with him. He right now doesn't like us but we can try to change that.
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No. 1109647 ID: 6d5273

C and B

Best to get that anger out of your system before we get to having any kind of conversation. Otherwise, it'll just be bottled up until it bursts and the anger gets worse than it will be now, like that "I hate humans" fiasco back at the meeting with heartbeat.

this can also lead into these conversations >>1109636 >>1109645 later.


Don't insult the construct, he's just doing his job. Didn't even know it was a living breathing thing.
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No. 1109654 ID: c10e31

I hate that hedgehog. Everything about this feels off. ...Hey legs. Got a name? Don't want to call you 'it', 'thing', or otherwise be de-personing you if you got feelings. Or is legs fine? (Perhaps if we build rapport it'll feel guilt which may help us.)
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No. 1109657 ID: 4c4c6e

One more thing, while we are moving forward have gray look back at the castle to see if the distraction started.
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No. 1109660 ID: 373ac4
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1109660

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) It can't hurt to try.

B) I don't want him to really be my friend, I just want him to believe that I want to.

C) You are right, I should just be quiet.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109662 ID: 3091c7

Perhaps we swap tactics? We argue for the personhood of legs. ...Four legs... Quaddie? Since what he said sounds a lot like having feelings or close enough. Show there's more to us than ruthless pragmatic calculations. Plus we could turn it on him too. "So you deny its feelings and WE'RE the bad guys? Won't deny we can be cruel but only as cruel as needed. Leadership responsibilities can be awful. Still have to be as moral as we can be. Like not causing emotional damage to this quadruped."
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No. 1109664 ID: 6d5273

Well, if he hates us enough to not be friends, then lets talk to the construct instead then. if it can answer yes or no questions, it can think. If it can think, therefore, it is. It should be capable of nodding or shaking head in response.

Ask it to nod if it truly has feelings and Kenku is wrong about it pretending, or shake head if Kenku is right and it doesn't have feelings and just pretending.

If it nods, ask if it feels bad to be accused it was pretending to feel.

Best to keep on the Construct's good side after all, it is watching us, and it could be watching us leave a trail. being friendly with it will keep it from alerting anyone about the pebble trail.
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No. 1109703 ID: fd169b

A) I mean yeah, we broke his leg, but that was just to show we were serious. Anyway we don't have to convince him right now, just sow the seeds of doubt.
How the cat reacts to our offer of Kenku in exchange for Gram will be the real test. Will she choose Abdle over Kenku? How will he feel about that?
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No. 1109758 ID: 836a2e

Side note: I think if we want to attempt to make friends with Kenku, we would probably have an easier time if we can somehow get him to hold Abdle, and gray can manipulate his thoughts. Don’t how how we can get him to do that

I’m still sticking with speaking with the construct tho (for now)
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No. 1109765 ID: 4c4c6e

Try to talk with the one eye strange construction. The bird is not fan of talking to us.
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No. 1109787 ID: 373ac4
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1109787

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Talk with the bird.

B) Talk with the construct.

C) Don't talk to anybody.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109791 ID: 012c65

As long as the crow doesn’t look up we are fine, just keep dropping pebbles and they should get a general idea where we are headed despite steering it irregularly.

Talk with the crow to keep him distracted from looking up. The construct shouldn’t care about us dropping pebbles now that we bonded with it, so it can’t alert the crow. (Will think of something to talk about when I get free time
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No. 1109797 ID: 38a2b1

don't look up. let's trust that the performers can follow and showing any sign of something else going on will give it away. and does kenku need to be alive? bc he's really good at saying fighting words.

A) what's worse than a broken leg? a chopped off one. don't threaten what you can't dish out.
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No. 1109809 ID: fd169b

Clouds don't go in straight lines anyway, right?

Jeez crow, why are you being such a jerk? Aren't you supposed to be on the same team
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No. 1109814 ID: 4c4c6e

Ask the bird, why are you such a big fat poppy head.
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No. 1109817 ID: 6d5273

I'm going to refrain from insulting or threatening him.

Ask him if threatening the construct with cutting a leg off really was necessary? seems a tad bit more unnecessary than when we broke his leg in comparison...

And let him know you think the construct is smart enough to know to lead us to the meeting place. Give the little guy a chance, Kenku. You can do it, Construct!
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No. 1109818 ID: e715a5

Oh the irony here. He's threatening to chop off a leg when we avoided doing that to his leg. Sure we broke it but still! Either way it's a false threat since he's in no position to chop a thing. Which we should make clear to our new pal Quaddie. From his reaction to the smallest kindness he's only seen apathy at best though it's likely a level of abuse is involved. Since kenku here is clearly lying we should persuade Quaddie to bend his rules. Does he have a time limit on when his job has to be done? Put it off for a while. He's can communicate indirectly since he's done that by now. So if we shut kenku's mouth so he gives no orders (just in case)... we have time for a few yes/no/unsure questions. Like if this is legit or a trap. Or if it could communicate with a scanning beholder we have. Savior complex. Hah! We'd be heroes guild members if we were aiming for saviors.
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No. 1109829 ID: 373ac4
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1109829

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Keep watching.

B) Keep watching!

C) Keep watching!!

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1109860 ID: 6d5273

If it’s armored birds, my guess it’s probably Steinhardt’s men

Hummm, A. I Wonder how well the performers can negotiate with them.
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No. 1109934 ID: 4c4c6e

No matter what happens with the actors you Bobbie have to keep talking with the bird.
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No. 1109941 ID: 8fd6c0

Did they wear any insignias? Or otherwise identifying? Either way the actors can improvise. Pun intended.
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No. 1109954 ID: 38a2b1

A) actors can improv their way out of any mess
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No. 1109957 ID: fd169b

keep an eye out, but if attention is drawn to the cloud then its over.
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No. 1109981 ID: 373ac4
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1109981

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Go forward to the graveyard.

B) Don't do it.

C) remove the bird from your shoulders.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110032 ID: fd169b

hmmm, bad sightlines, easy place to ambush. Lets take a quick stroll around to look for a back way in.
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No. 1110036 ID: 052abf

D: B and C. Put the bird down, Sit and take a break right here. We now know where the meeting is at, and we still got time before the meeting, so we are now good to rest up.

Reason being: we need to stall for time for the performers to hopefully deal with the complication, and catch up to us, so we need to wait as long as we reasonably can until Gray spots the cloud coming our way, or until we are close the the second hour

If the crow asks anything, tell him that you have walking all this way here while carrying him, the leash, and Abdle, and you need to rest.

But yeah, plz keep an eye on the skies, gray. Thanks
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No. 1110049 ID: 4c4c6e

C) + B) = profit?
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No. 1110051 ID: 38a2b1

C) then B). give yourself a second to rest. are there any holes in the walls for you to look into and spy an ambush?
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No. 1110052 ID: 6d5273

Idea: Maaaaaaybe instead of Bobbie checking for an ambush, some of us as lesser demons can check as far as we are able to tethered to Bobbie here? If possible that is
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No. 1110083 ID: 373ac4
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1110083

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Go to the graveyard.

B) Don't do it.

C) I won't do it until I know that Gram is alive!

D) I hate you!

E) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110084 ID: 63709c

C) this could too easily be a trap
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No. 1110085 ID: 38a2b1

C) as much as they taunt and threaten, they want you to react before thinking. remind them their place. put a knife to kenku's neck and demand they show gram's alive. there's no point in you playing nice if gram is dead or not here.
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No. 1110088 ID: 6d5273

I want to stay with Bobbie and advise her, but if two lesser demons don't volunteer to go in and scout the area, I'll be one of the two.

I'll do C, but I'll leave you guys with this food for thought if I have to go in: why is she so dead set on doing this asap? First it was midnight, then it was within two hours, now it's right now. Is she scared about something that she HAS to do it as soon as possible?

Also, since she can see through the construct's eye, she probably saw Bobbie leaving a rock trail. If she says anything, just say you had no idea where the meeting was, so you left a trail to get back home without getting lost afterwards. Simple!
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No. 1110110 ID: 4c4c6e

>>1110085
This!
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No. 1110139 ID: 373ac4
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1110139

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No. 1110140 ID: 373ac4
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1110140

At this point in the story, there are two diverging paths. Option A Bobbie returns to the castle and has a bigger chance for her to survive this outcome. Option B Bobbie enters the graveyard and confronts the cat, on this path Gram has a bigger chance of surviving this event.
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No. 1110163 ID: 5925e1

So she can see the lesser demons, I see. Glad we didn’t go in then, she expected that
Go in. We have a contingency plan if you and Abdle are to die. So it won’t matter too much. Leaving will just cause a guaranteed death to Gram tho, and cat will continue to pull this again and again if we leave. This has to end now.
Don’t forget you also have that antidote wormworks gave you if you need it if the poison becomes unbearable
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No. 1110177 ID: 4c4c6e

Option B, we are not coming back to the castle without Gram. As for us lesser demons, why not try to explore the graveyard it is not like the cat can kill us, from what it seems to me the she is mocking us for trying to do that in the first place, but we can enter and I am willing to go inside. Just need another person in order for that to happen.
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No. 1110213 ID: 59928b

At first I wanted to check, but now that she knows, I am sensing a trap. Not it!

The fact that she revealed she can see us means that she is getting cocky, and usually when people get a big head like that, they tend to make mistakes like revealing stuff like that. Look for every advantage!
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No. 1110217 ID: fd169b

Whelp, there goes our only leverage.
Sure is nice to have such competent followers. who would, say, check a prisoner for weapons.

B) No point in not seeing this through. And demon spying is yes, not like things could get worse.

And hey, maybe the cloud clowns will actually pull it off somehow.
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No. 1110317 ID: 2c15ab

Outvoted. Personally have utmost confidence in Gram escaping or has escaped. Plus cat is too dug in for my tastes. Still, will offer tactical advice. Gotta maximize odds.
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No. 1110323 ID: 9f3801

we cant be killed but we could get trapped if the cat has found a way to do it...

B. toss a rock into the graveyard first just to see if something jumps
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No. 1110421 ID: 373ac4
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1110421

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Have a short conversation with the cat.

B) Threaten the cat.

C) Try to pay the cat.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110425 ID: a300dd

We have a slight advantage. Hostage exchanges are usually simultaneous. We get Quaddie to switch sides and Gray can mindscrew the one who has to fetch Abdle.
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No. 1110433 ID: 6d5273

>>1110425 with Kenku announcing he couldn't risk putting his hands on the apple, they know something is up if they grab Abdle. They're being extra careful if none of them are going to risk grabbing Abdle, so Gray's mindscrew will be impossible right now unless we somehow convince them it is safe to hold Abdle.

But there are still two or three or four tricks up our sleeves.
1, the performers, but that's only if they can get here and deal with the complication. I'm betting it's Steinhardt’s guys. Unless Steinhardt is in cahoots with the cat, we'll have to stall and hope for the best. Hoping he's not like, hiding here, like behind the leaves up there in that tree. Right now, we'll probably have to not rely on the performers getting here, but still stall for time with what we can reasonably do

2, Us lesser demons talking to the construct, I do not think this will work since it is still allied to the cat, but we have seemed to have bonded with the construct, and Kenku said we can have it after negotiations, it's practically on our side, and ally. And we lesser demons can talk to allies. We can probably secretly order it to do something at some point. I don't think we should talk to it right now just yet, the cat can see us lesser demons somehow, and if she finds out we can talk to it this early on, we'll waste that chance. At the very least I want to see how this exchange will work before we risk going over to talk to it. It will probably be easier to talk to it if it came to bobbie so we can stay where we are and not have to move towards it letting the cat see us. again, It might not be considered our ally just yet as it is still working with the cat right now so I'm not going to rely on this too much.

3, Abdle's new power, but he'll have to be awake for that. Before we wake him though, again, I want to see how this exchange is going to work. Perhaps there is still a way we can have gray help and we won't have to wake up Abdle yet. We'll have to find the right moment for Abdle to use that power first

4, Gray opportunity. If Kenku or the cat isn't going to risk holding Abdle, they might send the construct to do it instead since they don't see it as a living thinking thing. But it's my belief that it is.
Maybe Gray can still speak with the construct, especially if we lesser demons cannot and it doesn't see us as an ally. so we don't have to risk talking to it and letting the cat know.

for now, A. ask how this exchange is going to work. Seems like the most logical way of doing this. like that spider and wasp story, we'll have to be patient, and wait for an opportunity to strike or flight. We can find out any kind of opportunity through this, especially if she lowers her guard as we act like we are following her rules.

I can already tell B and C will be a terrible ideas, moreso B. She will just hurt Gram in response to our threats, and she'll just say she can just steal whatever we attempt to pay her with, and hurt gram for wasting time.
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No. 1110450 ID: dfb7af

A) We need to buy more time and chatting with her seems like the most possible option. The Cat seems really smug right now.
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No. 1110471 ID: fd169b

A) stalling stalling lets talk terms. negotiate how the exchange is going to go. Will she come to us or does she want us to climb up the tree? What assurance does she offer that she won't just stab Gram, or shoot Bobbie?
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No. 1110474 ID: 373ac4
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1110474

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Ask about her life.

B) Ask about Iron Dredge.

C) Ask what she knows about Bobbie.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110477 ID: 6d5273

She's obviously allowing us to ask questions to stall for time for the poison to eliminate Bobbie, just as we are stalling time for the performers to get here. I guess that's one way to get her to not rush things, and as I said, we got her cocky enough, and now she is making that mistake.

One of these two questions:

I guess ask what does she want with Abdle? Why take him alive?

or

ask why she and Kenku, both who are monsters, are working for Iron Dredge, someone who wants to eliminate all of monsterkind. Does he have something on her that is forcing her to work for him, and so like a spider, she has to survive by killing or taking his targets in her web?
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No. 1110489 ID: dfb7af

It appears that you know a lot about the castle and its history. As for the question, why is Gram naked or almost naked.
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No. 1110509 ID: 38a2b1

B) yeah why work with iron dredge of all people to choose from?
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No. 1110517 ID: fd169b

Well if this is the end she might as well do the villain monologue. Why does she need Abdle so bad?
We know he's very charming, but this seems like she has some specific purpose.
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No. 1110547 ID: 57c12e

>>1110477 Got the angles covered.
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No. 1110549 ID: 373ac4
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1110549

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) To me humans are the real monsters.

B) I know what they are capable of and what they did to this world.

C) I fear them and they fear me.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110566 ID: 7e2e90

Quite frankly we're tired of being seen as a thing to be eliminated. With enough might they'll have no choice but to change that stance. Even if that means working with humans.
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No. 1110572 ID: fd169b

Why a vendetta? Uh, because they're violent oppressors? I thought that was obvious.

And what will happen? Well they'll probably try to kill us. Which is what they try to do now anyway so...
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No. 1110584 ID: 38a2b1

B). they will use you for all your worth and spit you out once they've taken all they can. you may be a cat, but you will die a dog
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No. 1110588 ID: dfb7af

I don't think that antagonising the cat is a good idea.
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No. 1110591 ID: 019357

“I’d rather die than live in a world where monsters everywhere are oppressed, enslaved, and be killed by humanity. That is why I fight for our protection, or die trying. Being oppressed isn’t living, it’s just surviving”
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No. 1110596 ID: 373ac4
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1110596

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell her that blood coming out of your mouth is a normal thing.

B) Spit blood on the floor.

C) Wipe it off, without saying a word.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110609 ID: f6700d

D. Do nothing about the blood, just let it hang from your mouth
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No. 1110635 ID: fd169b

B) don't want to garble your speech

> look like somebody who hasn't experienced much of mistakes
I thought she had been spying on us, but I guess she doesn't know anything about us. possible advantage?
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No. 1110637 ID: 38a2b1

B)
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No. 1110640 ID: 08265b

Option 2 followed by "Seems like you just gave up."
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No. 1110644 ID: dfb7af

>>1110640
This
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No. 1110652 ID: 80c0cd
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1110652

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell the person to stop shooting arrows.

B) Tell the person to shoot more arrows.

C) Remain silent.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110654 ID: fd169b

A) Hey, get your own hostage to injure
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No. 1110656 ID: 64c536

Probably an enemy of the cat's. However it could just be an enemy period. Get to cover quietly so the focus stays off us. Would it be better to pretend we hired this guy as the first of many plans? Or pretend we have a common foe for now?
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No. 1110669 ID: dfb7af

The eyes of this new charecter look familir so does the wepon that they use. There is a possibility that this is the Archer in his new armor, he wasn't at the castle when the ghost cats arrived he was scouting in the forest.
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No. 1110686 ID: 6d5273

>>1110669
further evidence to support it's Victorio: the crossbow is his weapon of choice, not a bow.
he is also holding the crossbow on his left hand, not his right, we have seen him hold it on his left hand before, so he's left handed.

I think the only thing that doesn't support him being Victorio is that he has no emblem on it that resemble our army, Bobbie said it would, but Gray doesn't seem to recognize any emblem on the armor representing our army. Perhaps if it's him, he removed it to pretend he's not with us so that the cat doesn't kill Gram. In which case, we should play along.

GRAY: I have a question for you, does that armor look similar to what the birds that flew into the performer's cloud was wearing? If it looks nothing like it, then I will have to assume it is Victorio.

BOBBIE: I think for now, take cover, maybe behind a nearby tombstone if she see's Bobbie taking cover somewhere for safety, it might show the cat that this archer was not part of our plan, and if it is Victorio, we can pretend we don't know this armored individual.

LESSER DEMONS: Don't get near the archer in case it is Victorio. I'd love to give him advice, but The cat will know the knight is on our side and kill Gram if she sees us near the armored knight. She made a mistake earlier mentioning she can see us like an idiot.

LASTLY: Bobbie, yell at the construct to run for cover like you are too!
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No. 1110689 ID: 6d5273

Oh right, also C while we take cover
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No. 1110713 ID: 38a2b1

A). whether or not this dude's on our side, at this rate more arrows will just kill gram. do duck for cover tho
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No. 1110717 ID: dfb7af

A)
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No. 1110721 ID: 8b8521
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1110721

Possible answers to the question that was asked for the first one:

A) Send Archer away.

B) Tell him to stay.

C) Other suggestions.


Possible answers to the question that was asked for the second one:

A) No, I didn't tell him to come here.

B) Yes, that was the plan.

C) The plan is not over, just waiting for an arrival.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110725 ID: fd169b

B) you're here now, might as well stay and make sure the murderer doesn't stab us in the back.

A) just can't get good help these days, everybody doing their own thing and don't listen to their queen. You know how it is, what with that crow of yours.
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No. 1110734 ID: 6d5273

First answer A, to increase Gram’s survival

Second answer A, tell the cat that because this meeting happened to be earlier than midnight, you had no chance to wait for the Archer to get back to the castle and tell him to stay behind, Kenku can vouch for that, he also really should have told her that Victorio was out and about. No idea why he did not warn her
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No. 1110741 ID: ca56f7

A) and A)
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No. 1110750 ID: 52b9de

>>1110734
couldn't have put it better myself
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No. 1110759 ID: a7e81c

Well either way she'll see this as our doing. Guess we should take advantage. Pretend we're beat while waiting for the real plan to show up. Victorio, why don't you fake leaving and sneak behind her as a last ditch?
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No. 1110801 ID: 52b9de
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1110801

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Victorio came for me, but this next person is here all for you.

B) Say hello to your old friend.

C) Well, this is who I was waiting for.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110802 ID: c4c9af

Go to Victorio and tend his wounds. Pretend you heard nothing. Let the cat think this is all for her alone.
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No. 1110803 ID: e62caa

Ack! Why didn’t he leave when we told him to??? Well at least that trap was set off and we won’t have to worry about that hurting Pokondirana so… good Job victorio(?)

B, B to show we know more about the cat than she thinks and her fear of death to get in her head, mind games.
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No. 1110805 ID: dfe3cd

Also, consider she isn’t alone, someone set off that trap! Probably Kenku. He can’t see lesser demons, so I think one of us or two should follow that rope and see where that trap setter is and who it is while the cat is distracted by death.
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No. 1110834 ID: fd169b

>>1110802
I concur, if we act like we hear nothing it might help convince her she faces an actual spirit
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No. 1110841 ID: 34b5b2

This is my thoughts about pretending not to hear Pokondirana:

While the idea did cross my mind, and feels like a good idea on paper, things we gotta consider is that Gram will be able to see Poko, and will probably point that out. Plus whoever set off that trap, and or Kenku will also be able to see Poko, which might raise some suspicions if they point it out and we intend to gaslight Shadow taker into thinking she’s the only one that can see Pokondirana

Another thought came to mind: while some of us lesser demons follow the trap’s rope to where it snapped up there to find the one who set off that trap, Bobbie should get to the archer and help him get another arrow into his bow while shadow taker is distracted with Pokondirana (while pretending to tend to his wounds). That way, once we got the crossbow ready, victorio can shoot where the trap setter is at to prevent another trap from going off with our direction
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No. 1110844 ID: ec26e4

>>1110841 We could tell Gram to pretend as well. Gram should be in our range. Which leaves Kenku *if* he's nearby us. Perhaps have the actors pretend it's a lesson for the cat's followers as well? "She has escaped death long enough. For those with her this is a warning. Do not attempt to escape death." Or they could improvise?
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No. 1110846 ID: dfb7af

Give the Archer the potion to help with the pain.
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No. 1110848 ID: ca56f7

B) say hello to your old friend. the rest of you will soon follow.
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No. 1110963 ID: 52b9de
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1110963

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Go with the plan that Gray suggested.

B) Don't go with his plan.

C) Prepare the crossbow, but don't use it yet.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1110966 ID: 67d3a9

Lack of pragmatism again means you miss a key detail. Bobbie threw a knife at one of the gobbos. Zero damage because of the curse. So that plan will fail. Load the crossbow though. We have no reason not to. Perhaps we could aim if Victorio can move his finger enough.
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No. 1110969 ID: 2dce89

Gray, I love your idea, but as Grand pointed out, Bobbie is cursed and can’t harm anybody… but I do still want to do it and have a different variation to that idea so that we can actually harm the cat. Let me know what you think because there is a risk involved:

D: First, we wake Abdle up (sorry Gray, but be glad we are using your plan)
Then, we tie him up to the arrow
Then, we fire at the cat with the crossbow. Abdle will ride the arrow towards her
Then, Abdle will use his new ability he got from Nasty’s dream to push the cat off the tree, or if we can aim well enough, push her down the waterfall! He can throw stuff pretty strongly now

It’s alright if the arrow misses, just as long as Abdle can use his ability to push her off the tree as he flies past her.
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No. 1110970 ID: 2dce89

Or heck, we can probably shoot an arrow with Abdle tied up to it at the tree branch, then after the arrow get stuck on the branch with Abdle, he can push her off the tree from there

I can see it now:
Shadow taker: you missed!
Bobbie: I wasn’t aiming at you
Abdle: *uses his new push power to push Shadow Taker down the waterfall*
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No. 1110976 ID: 96d935

Fairly clever Liquid. However two potential pitfalls. First is the waterfall thing might not kill since she implied he *might* be taken alive. Second is worse though. We'd be putting Abdle within grab distance of a highly reflexive cat so that could end very bad. Just to clarify "we" does not mean us. Victorio would direct Bobbie where to aim and then he or somebody else would fire.
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No. 1110993 ID: dfb7af

>>1110966
Agree with this statement, we shooting the crossbow will be pointless.
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No. 1111005 ID: 52b9de
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1111005

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Go with the plan that Gray suggested.

B) Don't go with his plan.

C) Go with the plan that Liquid suggested.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1111007 ID: 6d5273

Then yes, A. now!
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No. 1111008 ID: b8a1f8

Little worried that still counts as Bobbie. Perhaps it's splitting hairs but magic stuff can be touchy about this. Since you're fine with Abdle taking over let him fire. We'll do experiments once we're safe.
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No. 1111025 ID: fd169b

A) but go slow. Even if the cat is distracted lets give her reflexes as little warning as possible.
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No. 1111044 ID: dfb7af

A) let's hope that this loophole will work.
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No. 1111047 ID: bdb438

Victorio, just in case, even if you can’t feel your fingers, I want you to put all your willpower into shooting the crossbow. Even though Bobbie will be helping move your hands, we might also need your extra effort and will to shoot it to ensure the loophole works. I’ll be cheering for you! Go Victorio, Go!
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No. 1111077 ID: 52b9de
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1111077

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) I guess she missed us, time to shoot at her again.

B) Other suggestions.
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No. 1111083 ID: c50791

We've seen this! Probably a drawstring arrow with invis wire! Grab Abdle, slice it off, whatever it takes! She ain't getting away with this!
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No. 1111101 ID: ca56f7

>>1111083
agreed!
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No. 1111102 ID: dfb7af

>>1111101
Agree with this agreement
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No. 1111107 ID: 6d5273

agreed with >>1111102 agreement with >>1111101 agreement
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No. 1111117 ID: fd169b

grab the bolt and give it a yank, if there is a wire maybe she'll get pulled out of the tree
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No. 1111120 ID: bad8b4

Pulling does sound like a good idea, yes

And if the Cat pulls Abdle before we can save him with her catlike reflexes, Abdle can push her at some point with his ability at the right moment
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No. 1111125 ID: 114467

>>1111120
Wait, on second thought, would yanking the thread (if there is one) to pull the cat down the tree be considered harming that cat, and be nulled by the curse?

Regaendless, do what grand marshal said
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No. 1111143 ID: 52b9de
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1111143

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Yes, they all want you to do that.

B) Other suggestions.
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No. 1111149 ID: dfb7af

A) I agree with that idea, but I would like to tell Gram to grab the wings of the cat. So when we make her fly off the tree she won't we able to fly.
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No. 1111150 ID: 6d5273

Alternatively, what if before we throw abdle, we have him carry the knife with his mouth. Then once he gets to the cat, he push ability the knife right at the cat. A knife going at that kind of force Abdle is able to produce should be able to finish her off.
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No. 1111157 ID: 6325da

On the fence on this. Partially because she's dead set on getting Abdle. However the bigger concern is where Gram is. Would it blow away both, or can he aim well enough to hit only the hostile? What are the actors doing?
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No. 1111165 ID: fd169b

>>1111157
that's what will make this work. She'll be so quick to catch him she won't be ready for the blast.
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No. 1111205 ID: 52b9de
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1111205

Bobbie doesn't know what to do next.
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No. 1111206 ID: a0efdd

Great job everyone! We’re almost done, just one more step!

Bobbie, Remember the construct? The one we made friends with during the trip here, the same one Kenku and Shadow Taker threatened and mistreated? The same one Kenku offered us to own after this meeting to have as an ally? The one that hugged you? It’s still there chilling under that tree. I’m sure it can help us now. I command it to cut the invisible thread that is tied between Gram and the cat!
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No. 1111207 ID: 4ef0bf

Look at how they swing. Should key you in as to the thing linking the two. Shoot it with an arrow.
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No. 1111211 ID: dfb7af

>>1111206
This
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No. 1111223 ID: fd169b

>>1111206
Its that or start climbing up the tree yourself. Nothing you can do down here on the ground.
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No. 1111238 ID: ca56f7

maybe the construct could catch abdle/gram too if the thread is cut at the right angle. either way, ready yourself for a dive and grab!
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No. 1111239 ID: 52b9de
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1111239

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) I will succeed where you failed.

B) I will never lose.

C) This is what you get for living the life of a pet.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1111242 ID: 6d5273

She's probably taking a "if I go down I'm taking you with me" approach here. That arrow probably has a thread on it meant to pull you down with her if she falls.

break it apart and tell her you learn from failure
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No. 1111251 ID: fd169b

okay

So what, we should give up? If that's what she believes then she should let go of that string right now.
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No. 1111255 ID: dfb7af

Use the knife to cut the arrow in half, it is most likely tied to the cat with her invisible thread. If you don't have a knife tell the construct to burn it with its green flam.
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No. 1111256 ID: ca56f7

to live is all about failing yet continuing despite it. you can't win again if you stop trying.
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No. 1111271 ID: 1ca945

Or maybe you were just a bad player to begin with. Perhaps you should have found a quiet life. Here you are losing for the other side. Working with scum like Dredge. Whatever you learned from your losses were the wrong lessons.
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No. 1111285 ID: 52b9de
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1111285

Bobbie doesn't know what to say to him.
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No. 1111287 ID: e07fe3

Go make sure the cat's dead. We will have no surprises. Especially with how cats tend to land. We've got a gobbo to rescue.
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No. 1111298 ID: fd169b

well look who's swooping in for the credit after the hard work is already done.
Still, he did help a bit, so a polite thanks is in order.

Someone needs to check on the cat. If she survived I think we should take her back to stand trial. But seeing as absolutely everyone is injured I guess no one will be able to carry her.
oh wait the actors, they can float down and check. and maybe tie her up.
If she did survive having death greet her should be fun
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No. 1111301 ID: 0e2b98

Im thinking leaf leader should take Bobbie back to the castle to get treated for the poison immediately as it’s been awhile. from what I remember, he is pretty fast.

The actors meanwhile should take Abdle, Gram, and the archer and get them home to also get treated

Tho I am worried most about Kenku showing up, and there was that rat zombie we found near where that trap was activated. Best be careful everyone.
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No. 1111302 ID: dfb7af

Oh great now we have to deal with Pepé le pew. Let's see what he wants.
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No. 1111304 ID: 26b8dc

>>1111301
As far as the construct goes, if it wants to come with us, the actors can take it along too, we can probably have the blacksmith spider upgrade it too with a sturdier body too with the materials we get

And say what you will about leaf leader, he came through in the end and deserves our thanks. I do wonder how he found us, but that can be asked later


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