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94347 No. 94347 ID: 8177e7

Thought it was about time I made a combined discussion thread for all my quests.
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No. 130011 ID: 0fae41

Can Alkaline use the Fixity Bangle? If we enlarge her again she can grapple the devil bear and poison it at the same time.
No. 130012 ID: 977456

Alkaline's curse resistance is luck-based. It'll help plenty, but relying upon it could go poorly. How much can her surface be rendered cut-proof?

Giving Moriko a mild size/reach upgrade and an impact multiplier on her hammer would provide a solid foundation to keeping the bear stun-locked, but I would like to go into this with a base-state Moriko. Prove that she don't need no demon! or that she does...
On that note, you could try to queue up a last-minute demon transformation for her, relying upon The Earth Pulse to facilitate it so that it can only be activated at a peak of drama, going the full tentacle-hair, slicing-nails, spike-teeth, scaled-skin, elongated arms, wrapped in obfuscating shadows... If things are handled then things are handled and nobody needs to know, if things go poorly, then, well...

Tea of Terrific Treatment Time: Causes the victim to tilt their head up and eject a massive plume of steam with a loud whining noise while turning bright red for a few seconds. Any injury inflicted during those few seconds is instantly healed. Causes profuse sweating for an hour afterwards.
It'd be useful if you need to amputate a cursed wound...
No. 130019 ID: a9af05

Since there's a lot of people going with an "Enlarge" potion, I'd like to do the same with my own little spin on it.

Potion effect: Enlarge, makes the user bigger.
Unfortunate side effect: Also enlarges sideways (makes the user a little fat).

When the potion wears off, the user might be a few inches taller and slightly chunkier than they originally were.
No. 130030 ID: 91ee5f

So you’re basically saying the potion still does what it says, it just never specifies how it enlarges whoever drinks it. Is that right?
No. 130061 ID: a9af05

Exactly. That's what makes it funny.
No. 130103 ID: 3d1dd5
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So given it's an excellent time for random encounters, any flora and fauna people might be interested in running into? Keep in mind this is pretty near the dungeon so some might end up being useful as dungeon monsters, ingredients or simply have to be cleared out so Deem can encourage something more useful to spawn in their place.

As you may have guessed, the frogs are the pidgeys of this area.
No. 130104 ID: 465a14

I'm fond of wicked jelly-johns from this thing: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0BxVHEMMjLlZ4ZnJyWnlSNEc3LW8
No. 130105 ID: 1ed92d

I recommend burrowing beetleoids like Ankheg. They mostly eat fruit and carrion and thus are perfect for an aspiring dungeoneer, especially with their ability to dig tunnels.
No. 130112 ID: b1b4f3

Since we're going shadow-themed how about an actual shadow monster?
No. 130113 ID: dadaee

Is it limited to the things we see there? because there's something to be said about some classic, good old-fashioned giant spiders.
No doubt with some new twist.
No. 130114 ID: 0fae41

Giant wasps make dangerous neighbors, but perhaps if tamed via down-leveling like Doyle, they could revert into a more friendly honey-/bumble-bee form.
Carnivorous plants make neat enemies. Maybe they grow higher up, in poor soil on the mountainside?
Raccoons have ties to the shadow element. Maybe they've banded together like a vicious little tribe of brownies.
Since we're near the mountains, there might be an apex predator that lives near the peak. Would Deem have knowingly settled near a dragon? Probably not, but perhaps a roc or a yeti...
No. 130115 ID: 977456

Landsharks. Not the ones that swim in earth or fly or anything, pretty much their only adaptation is tough slime that keeps them from drying out and lets them breath, but big jaws and strong tails make their flopping around dangerous, and they are near silent and odourless when waiting in ambush.

Feral golems might be interesting. Presumably there are golems out there who lose their masters or maybe a large Earth Pulse discharge goes into some clay? Deem is used to being on the team with all the golems, and the bear probably wouldn't hunt them...

Do monster frogs have a metamorphosis postfrogdom? What would be to a frog what a frog is to a tadpole? All of the limbs? Wings maybe?

Every great dwarven tale of plumbing the depths reminds one of the treeful terrors. Can we get some Old Man Willow action?

Everything is mimics!
No. 130123 ID: 977456

And, of course...
1, 6, 8, and 9 are all appealing.
No. 130226 ID: 10c408

Some kind of flying predator would be an interesting change of pace.
No. 130228 ID: 977456

That would be #8, the Fake Deer! Uh... I assume it is a predator? I mean, it doesn't look predatory, but it must be, right? It's look are probably deceptive! It can't really be a hybrid of a balloon and a pinata.
No. 130248 ID: 3d1dd5

It eats wolves.
No. 130397 ID: 842ac4

For a shadow/earth mix, definitely going to want giant spiders. It matches too well, and based on how we want to run things we can have normal dumb spiders that up the fear factor for adventurers, but also have the potential for intelligent spiders which are scary as fuck to anyone.

Spiders are such a common fear we might scare some of our denizens though.
No. 130400 ID: b1b4f3

Shit, spiders, of course. We definitely need some of those.
No. 130409 ID: 977456

In before meme taratects.
Speaking of which, What does Deem know about the metamorphosis of available monsters? We've covered Alkaline pretty well, but don't know much about turning Char into a dragon, nor Belph into... huh... A Bog of Eternal Stench? A Steam Engine? A Slightly Prettier Cauldron? A Brewery? A Bong? A Hybrid-between-a-chicken-and-a-house?
Can ogres metamorphose? Demons? What about hybrids of such...
No. 130412 ID: 3d1dd5

They'd probably be taratects just to have less legs to pose!

I'll hold off on talking about evolutions in too much details until Deem has a proper doodad for doing it, but in essence all monsters can be customised, the named varieties are just particularly successful and stable breeds.

Chakarchelou is going to have the option to cycle through various forms as he iterates towards a more draconic form. Wyverns and dracotaurs and basilisks and tyrannosaurs and hydras and draconians and such.

Not sure if Hin would evolve in the course of the quest, but ogres are a kind of giant.

Still making up my mind about Doyle. He might be one of those weird pokemon that doesn't evolve into anything.

Demons are pretty much all over the place...

Deem eventually will have the option to make chimeras but not everyone wants to throw away their humanity for power, even if it is a very good deal.
No. 130416 ID: a9af05

I'm getting a lot of "So I'm a Spider, So What?" vibes from that word.

If that's the kind of spider that we'd end up recruiting, then I really what to get a spider for our dungeon.
No. 130428 ID: e7703b

Taratects are the made up race Kumo-chan is of.
No. 130429 ID: 3d1dd5

Oops, I was thinking of tektites, the four legged zelda spiders.
No. 130444 ID: 10c408

I, for one, would vastly enjoy seeing a dragonosarus hybrid for chakarchelou.
No. 130525 ID: 977456

Does anyone have a good setup for the punchline "A thicc frog rolling in."? It is a play on "a thick fog rolling in" so coastal and navigational themes would help, but it is primarily about frogs.
That or any other terrible frog jokes. We have souls to destroy here and they won't pop themselves without proper encouragement.
No. 130533 ID: 2eba1a

Well, there is a bear roaming around, maybe theres some monster bees around here as well?
Or just to buck the normal Giant Spider trend, how about some Giant Ants? Would be cool for the chitin if we kill some...or the acid.
To go with the frogs, im thinking of some kind of magical newt. Theres that thing about using eye of newt in witches brew, so maybe its eyes are magical somehow, like it can do a weak curse or dazzle effect on you with its eyes. Or maybe they just have big moe eyes.
No. 130534 ID: 151656

Since there are giant frogs, it'd be logical to think that there are giant flies for them to eat as well.
No. 130535 ID: 91ee5f

We could try recruiting a snake monster.
No. 130539 ID: 2eba1a

How about a Bush Beast? Its a beast, thats also a bush.
like topiary with claws
No. 130561 ID: 8d4593

Maybe a lesser earth elemental could be around?
I think it would be interesting to see what Merude makes of such a thing.
No. 130562 ID: 12b116

we must capture and tame Tall Boy
No. 130563 ID: 977456

I believe that Deem's current and near-future internal dimensions are insufficient to provide for a tall-boy's ongoing living requirements.
Let's play innuendo limbo!
No. 130564 ID: 8eaf98

I must say I think the time requirements to accommodate tall-boi's length may get in the way of other activities and spread goals.
No. 130581 ID: 2eba1a

It took me too long to think of it, but you know what would be really useful in a monster to tame right now would be something we could use as a mount or pack animal. Some kind of horse/bovine/Goat Or maybe a large land bird would be great, and make those trips to the city a lot faster, and they could be used to speed up excavation of the dungeon, graze in the garden out back, and provide fertilizer.
No. 130853 ID: 9c4f92

I keep toying around with the idea of introducing dungeon sponsors during the next town visit. Basically giving Deem an extra source of gold and dungeon material but having to keep the sponsor happy and accommodate some of their requests in dungeon design and themes.

Creating some tension between Deem's greed and her pride, basically. I'd like to hear what people think might be fun for a sponsor.
No. 130857 ID: 0fae41

The town merchant, who provides sponsorship in exchange for babysitting.
The stylish highwayman, whose tastes are eclectic and income sources are questionable.
Finally, someone who perhaps may be able to finagle us official membership in the dungeoneer's guild.
No. 130865 ID: 5b93d3

Town gardener (herb merchant? Apothecary?): wants Deem to grow plants that only thrive well in a dungeon environment: caves (like the mushrooms), high altitudes, high concentrations of the Earth Pulse, etc.
Deem must balance creating a dark and atmospheric dungeon with having flowers growing over every available surface.
No. 130867 ID: ad51b8

the golemancy school who believes it already is sponsoring us since we took one of their students and will give us a small kick back but in exchange they want us to open our dungeon to them them so they can give their students some practical experience.

And by that I mean every few month they will have a "field trip" were selected students will go to the dungeon and use their talents to help defend it and then we get a roll of the dice for how competent these students are. Some might actually be good and help the dungeon, some might be terrible and actually end up in adding the adventurers do to being so inept, and some may just try and find a quiet corner to make out in or smoke weed smelling up the whole dungeon. We just don't know till they show up.
No. 130868 ID: 91ee5f

>field trip to help dungeon
Or it could be a field trip to try and beat the dungeon. As a way to test their abilities, they have to try and defeat us.
No. 130874 ID: 977456

I don't think that scholars like that would play The Labyrinth Game so it would be more appropriate if they were more scholarly. Like walking out in the middle of an invasion and risking their necks by jumping out in front of adventurers to ask them to apply some obscure attack over and over again with Deem having to keep them alive and go along with their inane tests. Or insisting upon obscure golem designs, like demanding that the brutes goose-step to test if it makes their behaviour more regimented in other ways.

Hugh Mann might want Deem to spend lots of time and effort tweaking her external spawns towards female doppelgangers. For reasons...

Some miners might be willing to dig out some space for her, but would do so according to their own whims, extract some of the densest ore and gem seams, and expect Deem to provide safety and lodging.

Historians would love to interrogate someone who is older than dirt. Especially if they can provide full-scale replicas of ancient history.

That hidden valley is just asking for a mysterious cult/sect/tribe/order/whatever infestation. She should at least see if she can grow a dryad in there.

Someone wants to expand and convert the thaumatorium into a health-spa? Move in some heated jacuzzis and massage slabs+golems...

A goblin tribe wants to turn Deem into an old-folks-home by shipping all their least popular elders off to be adopted as dungeon monsters.

There is plenty of advertising space on brute golems and (treasure) chests...

Mysterious benefactors who refuse to meet with Deem offer to pay for weird things like "hurrying up and upgrading my Deem's forge already" and "you should snog have tea with that nice hammurai lady" or "You should help your dashing genius golemancer design turing-capable golems"...

Two competing adventurer groups have conflicting demands. Both want certain cosmetic details included in the golems and for the golems to all conform to a single gender, but disagree as to which gender that should be. Then a third group wants them covered up as much as possible and threatens to protest outside Deem's opening if it doesn't happen. Then a final group expects Deem to have all the golems in period-accurate armour on the basis that it would boost custom from being "more professional" even though golems have very different armouring needs.

People wanting Deem to host parties. Everything from non-combat "haunted house" runs for halloweens to blind-drunk office-parties for the financial new year's.

Furries wanting Deem to blow all her boss-upgrade magic on giving all the denizens and monsters animal-traits for the duration.
No. 130875 ID: 0fae41

>>130873 reminded me, what would Alice's response to water be? It's not something she's encountered in great quantities on the station yet. Less drastic than fire? Does she even have neutral buoyancy?
No. 130876 ID: f10b3f

Alice is startlingly amphibious.
No. 130879 ID: 977456

High-performance startling or jump-scare startling?
No. 130894 ID: bf2179

A valid question.
No. 130895 ID: 1a6fd4

Knowing Alice, it's both.
No. 130940 ID: 2eba1a

How about an Architect or artist who wants to see various designs used in the dungeon that might be too impractical or outlandish to be made elsewhere? Deem seems pretty handy in making things but she might be a little rigid imagination wise. Someone who can give her money AND pitch her ideas might be fun.

Or how about a weirdo noble or rich entrepreneur who wants to see rare and/or unusual variations/evolutions of Monsters? No better place then a dungeon, especially one you can talk to to direct their evolution. Alternately for the businessman option, maybe they want them as a reliable source of materials for new products, like making slime milk beauty treatments or something.
The upside of this one is that if they have enough clout, they could keep those dungeon hunters away from Deem a bit.
No. 130952 ID: 5b93d3

Wealthy noble's kid wants to run a dungeon, said noble pays Deem to let them win.Plot twist: kid doesn't give a crap about dungeon diving and also pays off Deem to make it look like they're actually making an effort, leaving Deem to play with herself pointlessly pantomime an entire dungeon run
No. 130968 ID: 977456

A leprechaun needs somewhere to hide their lucky charms!
No. 131074 ID: 10c408

Can't remember if I made a suggestion for the dungeon sponsors idea yet or not, but...

Guilds! There's a lot of potential to be had with an specialty artisan/thief guild trying to set up a business venture with a burgeoning dungeon.
No. 131081 ID: eb4a6c

A tailor or designer would be a good one, trying to market their designs to adventurers maybe. That's where the real cash is. So they demo outfits on dungeon denizens. Adventurers are always jealous of how stylin bad guys' outfits are.
No. 131107 ID: 7ebbf9
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I don't know if you were expecting any answer other than 'both'.

Lot of interesting ideas for a sponsor. I originally had it in my head as more like patronage by a local noble but these sorts of partnership have a lot of potential.

Now in quest Deem mentioned managing to solidify two of the curses affecting her. The idea for this one came from Twilight Princess where I was entertained by Midna holding on to the wolf curse fragment after Link got the master sword just in case he needed to be a dog again.

The four curses affecting Deem were:

Polymorph: Deem was transforming into different races at random times.
Secret Chest: Whenever Deem restrained herself from commenting on hidden information (that she wanted to speak about), enhance knockers.
Emotional Honesty: A terrible, terrible curse. Deem felt compelled to explain her feelings for everyone she knows.
Blabbermouth: Deem's internal monologue occasionally turned into an external one. It's like mindreading but for everyone else.

Which two is it going to be? The most likely use for these will be to make a (flawed) magic item.
No. 131108 ID: 33056f

Polymorph and Secret Chest, of course! There's clear practical uses for both curses. Clearly.
No. 131110 ID: 151656

Polymorph was clearly very useful, as we could attest in the quest itself already. Blabbermouth would be interesting to use on a prisoner, if it ever came to that. Emotional Honesty could also be useful in a similar way, but I think Blabbermouth is better. As for Secret Chest... eh, we have other ways to enhance knockers already.
So Polymorph and Blabbermouth get my vote.
No. 131112 ID: b1b4f3

Polymorph and Emotional Honesty. First one's useful. Second one annoys Deem the most.
No. 131113 ID: 91ee5f

>Now in quest Deem mentioned managing to solidify two of the curses affecting her.
>The four curses affecting Deem were:
Does this mean that the 2 curses we don’t pick will still be affecting Deem?

>Which two is it going to be?
I say Deem managed to remove the Polymorph and Emotional Honesty curses from herself.
No. 131115 ID: 977456

Please retain Emotional honesty and Polymorph. For great snoot booping and admissions about snoot booping.
No. 131116 ID: 12b116

Deem wouldn't like that much I don't think. She gets really excited over action
No. 131118 ID: 977456

The purpose of a paying job is rarely enjoyment. If it comes to happiness I would worry more about Moriko than Deem. Her job defending her lady being dismissed for mere coinage?
Then there is concerns for Deem's self-respect. Many people suffer permanent mental harm from selling their body for the pleasure of rich brats. Just... letting them in to plunder her depths with only feigned resistance, someone she doesn't even respect? It could really do a number, even to someone as experienced as Deem.
Finally, is Deem physically capable. Once The Earth Pulse starts thrumming, her mana rampagine through veins, liquid magic pouring from her cracked heart. Is she just going to take a dive, lay down and take it, when she could rise and engage in glorious struggle! I think that perhaps the others would be needed for baby-sitting the noble while Deem and Moriko go out to distract each other.
No. 131125 ID: 015bf2

Emotional Honesty and Secret Chest, because the thought of breast pinocchio amuses me far more than it should.
No. 131126 ID: ad51b8

Polymorph because that one was just fun and could maybe be used to make a cursed object in the dungeon that could be used to disorient invading adventurers or make a cursed object that is just to useful/interesting not to use.


Secret Chest because this one is just hilarious.
No. 131127 ID: 8d4593

Blabbermouth and Emotional Honesty.

Because nothing cuts through potential melodrama like a pendant of truth!
No. 131129 ID: e3730d

Well if we're going to make a flawed magic item...

Blabbermouth and emotional honesty. It doesn't sound like we can split off the polymorph curse and make it a flawed magic item by itself, so being able to kind of get true information (or as close as we can get anyway) out of someone interacting/wearing a magic item could be useful.
No. 131132 ID: 9caba2

Secret Chest for the joke and Emotional Honesty for the impromptu teambuilding when it affects a person.
No. 131134 ID: 1a6fd4

I like these >>131110 >>131112
But if we only get one item with both curses, then >>131129 is right.
No. 131136 ID: 7ebbf9

One item per curse. I suppose you could use both in the same item potentially but it'd probably be a weird item.
No. 131137 ID: 0fae41

Polymorph and Secret Chest are both great and should stick around. If we did do a combo item though, emotional honesty and secret chest have excellent synergy.
No. 131142 ID: 0a7f21

I think we need more blabbermouth shenanigans. Also secret chest. We'll sell the item to Kallia, it seems like the kind of thing she'll get a kick out of.

I feel kind of like Deem should be able to manage polymorph on her own without a curses help, she has all the right magic parts to shape herself, it kind of plays to her homonculi partially human specialization, and it opens some fun possibilities. The dryad form was a pretty neat addition.
No. 131144 ID: 977456

But we could equip ploymorph to Belph for a jacuzzi!
No. 131147 ID: 1a6fd4

Nah, he'd resent it all the way. He'd be more of a j'acuzzi.
No. 131152 ID: a9af05

>Does this mean that the 2 curses we don’t pick will still be affecting Deem?
That's a good question.

Under the assumption that Deem will still have the two curses we don't choose, I'm voting for Polymorph and Emotional Honesty as the curses she solidified and removed from herself.
No. 131153 ID: b1b4f3

She's not affected by any curses anymore. She digested all of them.
No. 131156 ID: a9af05

Are you sure about that? I'm not seeing where it says that.
No. 131157 ID: 151656

>I finally manage rid myself of those curses from the raw mana experiments. As much entertainment as I'm sure my golem sculpting and occasional loose lips provided my denizens, it's a relief it's over.
No. 131266 ID: 7ebbf9
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Something that sat around unfinished for ages and ended up being too late for Chest Day.
No. 131296 ID: b5fb67


Big old tonhongerekoogers.
No. 131299 ID: ca2950

Big ol' Honkededonkerhungeroonerinos
No. 131783 ID: f133dc

Is Deem sporting an Alice looking head flower next her right horn in that last panel?
No. 131784 ID: 7ebbf9

Deem's added a little stone flower as a hair decoration at the base of the horn, yes.
No. 131814 ID: 1f2e83

I don't want to overdo it, but I think it would be entertaining for at least one person to have a significant growth spurt from that new potion bath. Just can't make up my mind if it should be Merud, Moriko or Hin.
No. 131816 ID: 6e6f32

Lol B I G M E R U D
No. 131817 ID: 9caba2

I want to say Hin because she's already experienced significant growth once. But on the other hand: Moriko because she's only like the third tallest now.
No. 131819 ID: 33056f

I'm of the same mind, Hin would be improving on excellence but her reaction to Moriko's growth spurt would be entertaining, and we can never gift Moriko with too much chaos attention.
No. 131820 ID: a61bd5

Merud would be funny as a humanoid male surrounded by ladies
No. 131823 ID: 0fae41

Boosting Hin would be a strong incentive to get those higher ceilings we need to field larger bosses.
No. 131824 ID: 151656

The other guys would be funnier, but Hin's the only one who actually wanted that, I think.
No. 131825 ID: 6e6f32

I can see Merud wanting a Boost ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), and going overboard.
No. 131827 ID: ca2950

"Hello ladies. I want you to meet my friend, Goliath. We had to buy him special stretch pants on the internet."
No. 131829 ID: 91ee5f

I think it should be Merud or Moriko.
No. 131833 ID: c3e059

Merud or Moriko would be best.
No. 131835 ID: 5b93d3

Merud would only really be funny if Kallia is around. Otherwise, Hin, for the double-fun of being a giant giant, and her having to gratuitously bend over all the time.
No. 131836 ID: 1a6fd4

Hmm, that's an amusing mental image. You have my vote.
No. 131841 ID: b1b4f3

Keep making Hin bigger until she's like a Giant Blacksmith.
No. 131842 ID: a9af05


Our dungeon isn't big enough for that. But maybe we can do that after we've gotten bigger rooms and hallways?
No. 131845 ID: feecd8

It should be Moriko.

Since she's usually the person we have set up as our dungeon's final boss, we usually use magic to reinforce her. One of the magics is making her bigger. So if she's naturally really big, then instead of using magic to make her bigger, we can instead do something else to make her more formidable!
No. 131903 ID: 09e13b


Morkio would be ideal, at least from a usefulness perspective. Extra size could at least potentially a boon to a fighter, while it seems like it would just be awkward and make doing fine detail harder for our two crafters.
No. 131904 ID: 10c408

I'm going to put my vote in for Merud getting a growth spurt and remind everyone that monstrous size has no intrinsic merit, unless inordinate exsanguination be considered a virtue.

Plus, making Merud taller is win-win. He can make bigger golems more easily and we can keep flustering both him AND Kallia.
No. 131905 ID: 0fae41

The bigger the beast, the greater the glory.
Prodigious size is not all our denizens have to dissuade the sharpened blade.
No. 131906 ID: 10c408

Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer. I know this is for fun, but Moriko's still denying her missing stats and ancestry. making her bigger isn't going to help with that at all.
No. 131907 ID: 0fae41

Sure, but it's not going to harm it either.
No. 131921 ID: 5b93d3

I don't think Moriko would be a good target. We were careful applying enhancements for the practice fight not to change her physical size too much, she's a martial artist and too much change would throw her off regardless of any gains from increased stature.
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