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107070 No. 107070 ID: 23060e

Here you can ask me theauthor about anything connected to the quest and I will answer it as soon as possible
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For Scarred Ana
No. 128804 ID: e51896

I apologize for the wait. I just didn't have the motivation at the time to do just about anything at all other than nap. I'm not sure why, but I'll probably blame it on being too drained from work (or maybe I shouldn't? it's too easy to blame our own shortcomings on other things). whatever the case, I needed a break.

For the grading: there is no such thing as perfection. the most we can do is look at our weaknesses from this grading and see what we need to improve on. In fact, perfection is BORING!!!
But I will admit we are pretty much the worst when it comes to being stealthy or keeping secrets from our enemies. Not just from our stealth from Essence, but from other moments including being caught during the date with Felafaf and Lawrence (totally forgot Felafaf could see my character and forgot to tell her to keep me a secret), or revealing AJ to Andrew and the cult, or revealing checking out the prequel to the Ambassador (that was Null's fault. I wanted to at the time establish Null as a villain. I apologize to Harbard for that and feel really bad for doing that). There are other examples, but you get the idea
Overall At this point, we need to get some serious training on how to be stealthy and keep secrets (or at least what little we have) from our enemies if we are to succeed in any kinds of goals.
At the very least, I am starting to see a little bit of improvement (just a tiny bit) when we kept Absolution jr a secret from Absolution Prime. It might not be a secret for long since some members of the cult and Andrew already know of AJ, but it's an improvement nonetheless.

For the prize: getting Laura out alive is enough of a prize. You didn't need to give us a secret about Essence as a prize, but thanks. Honestly, I checked and I still can't figured out what Essence is hiding in her appearance as you say. I'll have to look harder later.

Thanks. I'm sure there were some things I missed (like Happy as you pointed out), but I wanted to point out what risks we will have to face from my knowledge depending on which choice we make. Honestly sometimes there is just so much things to keep track of that I fear that I may forget something important that could cost us dearly

I'm not sure what Happy wants to accomplish. He doesn't appear or say all that much, The most we can do is guess. Essence did mentioned he is someone who doesn't like destiny. As Essence puts it, he wants to show the world what true freedom looks like, to disregard all rules or humanity's decency and mold reality into what can be desired. Essence did also say she wanted to rule over the world with Happy and then kill it, but Spirit contaminator said Essence's comment could be from the bad things she is going through mentally and didn't actually mean it when she said those words after I brought it up with Spirit Contaminator.

My guess with Happy's goals is since the world of Roots and Branches is filled with miserable people seemingly stuck and destined to face constant failure and broken dreams with very little happiness or success, especially with the cycle taking everything away at the end, and considering Happy is someone who hates destiny, perhaps he is trying to teach the world they can escape from their miserable "destinies" for something better. However, his way of going about it might not be so "just" though but more "chaotic", but we'll have a better theory about what he wants to accomplish once we learn more about him.
One thing is for certain is that he seems to have a lot of allies, and the fact that we killed Essence means that his allies will probably come after us, especially Anubis.
(Oh Wow, taking account with Root's Cult, Happy's group, and Absolution Prime's followers, we certainly have tons and tons of enemies, don't we? Yikes. It's us against the world)

>The main reason I want to continue with the prequel actually has nothing to do with the fog or anything like that at all. Hell I really only want to continue the prequel because of curiosity to how it all began. Nothing more.

It's crazy how both our goals have changed from when we first started to now.

Also, I too would love to see the prequel out of curiousity, it's a very fun story on its own, but we will have to consider at what cost. Honestly it would be cool to check into the past and stop right before we learn how we can stop the fog but that isn't a choice we are given. We only have the two choices: It's either stop the story now, or go all the way.

But I have considered this: even though we might not learn anything about the cycle itself, perhaps we might just learn a different kind of secret from the prequel aside from learning about the fog.

>The way I see it, the only conflict worth stopping are ones that want to keep us in the dimensional cycle.

>Unfortunately this will place us at odd with Absolution, but I think certain members of the cult would be more willing to listen to reason. Because if we are all trapped in this cycle, the conflict of the fog is meaningless.

Agreed. That's pretty much my main goal too, to escape the cycle. The fog is meaningless.
However, I do not think it will be as easy as you think to try to get people who see us as enemies to listen to reason even if our goal isn't to stop the fog (especially since we might be continuing the prequel). Not saying it's impossible, just going to be difficult. Caution, careful thinking, and considerations of consequences will be needed.

>Essentially what I want is to have EVERYONE leave the cycle. Everyone leaves, only one person stays. The one person who this whole cycle was created for, Andrew Goodwill. If we all go, he has to stay.

that is a goal I can totally get behind, but we will have to acknowledge that not everyone can be saved as you say though. I think this battle against Essence hit the nail on that fact on the kind of quest this is. This isn't a quest where everything can end the way we want it to. Instead, I think we will have to settle for what we can manage to accomplish with our end goal of freeing ourselves (and anyone else who is interested) from the cycle. We can only accomplish things with the cards we are dealt with

Okay. I think we have established together what our main goal is now. We are no longer focused on stopping the fog, but instead to free Ana, ourselves, and whomever else is interested from the cycle. Our enemies are now the ones who wants to trap Ana's and our characters' souls in it.

That said, just because we are looking into the prequel does not necessarily mean our goal is to stop the cult or the fog. With that in mind, I'll agree to continue the prequel on account that we might learn something new other than the fog itself even though we won't learn anything about the cycle. But I want us both to acknowledge that even though we are not going to stop the fog, we will still have more enemies target us because of the knowledge we will gain, and as such, things are going to get a whole lot more difficult. Bad things will happen, failure will happen, but we have to make due with what we have.

Overall, if we can both acknowledge the consequences I had mention and as such try our best not to complain when some of the worst events or failure happen to us and instead try to get by with the cards we get dealt with and adapt, I'll agree to continue the prequel. Things will get tougher.
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No. 128811 ID: 8b660e

If he is willing to continue then so am I
No. 128833 ID: 70be57
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This will be a small preview for the April fools joke, also enjoy the relaxing music

No. 128865 ID: e51896

after speaking with Devoid and speaking with Harbard on the decision. And while I really want to continue strange abnormalities, I think I have to bite the bullet and make the decision to not continue Strange Abnormalities.

Just know that this was a very tough decision for me to make and I didn't take it lightly. I consider this a large sacrifice, but I feel that considering what is going on and what happened, such as Lawrence and the cult being distracted on multiple things (like saving Root from the wolfpack, dealing with Logan and Absolution Prime, Godfrey's trial), and the dangers that will come from continuing strange abnormalities, I think it is probably for the best to take the opportunity to have Ana make progress and finally enter the forest before things escalate instead of having things escalate while Ana sleeps and checks the past. If I remember, Clarence said he has a hidden bunker or bomb shelter in the forest, so I believe that will be our next goal to reach for Ana before shit really starts hitting the fan.

I can only hope this sacrifice of the story won't be for nothing. Harbard and I would love to see strange abnormalities to get a complete story of the roots and branches series, but sadly, I don't think it is worth the risk and there are other opportunities to pursue.
No. 128867 ID: 278e86

I said I would only go forward with it if my co-player was. I don’t like this and I don’t really want an abridged version or one that’s just propaganda. Being honest I hate the idea of sacrificing story for this, I just think the idea of risk vs. reward for this is pretty lame in general. But it is what it is.
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No. 128871 ID: 8b660e

Oh ok.
No. 128911 ID: 70be57

I fear that I am going mad with power. Or maybe that already happened and only now I am noticing it

No. 128912 ID: 8b660e

Yeah you are.
No. 128914 ID: 70be57


Well in that case...
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>be me
>work for the city as a handyman and groundskeeper of a local park.
>get nicknamed “the clipper” by coworkers cuz I’m always stuck with trimming hedges
>I usually don’t mind, it’s peaceful work.
>wake up one morning to see a black fog has rolled through town
>think it’s some kind of urban detoxification or some shit
>get ready for work
>go downstairs of apartment to see a plague doctor
>plague doctor is a lady and is actually really nice
>she tells me that a great epidemic is sweeping across the city and she is trying to save as many people as she can.
>she gives me a mask and says it will keep me safe.
>she’s wearing one too and so are a few other people nearby
>think it’s some kind of weird fashion trend and just go with it
>put on mask and head to work
>almost get mugged by two weirdos in masks like mine
>oh shit!
>use sheers to beat them up and run
>somehow get away
>get to the park see someone without mask sleeping on a bench
>assume it’s some homeless guy and I don’t get paid to deal with them
>spend the day trimming hedges and grooming trees
>out of bushes comes a weird cosplayer
>turns out the cosolayer chick is fucked in the head and knocks me unconscious
>wake up in some cold dark room missing two fingers on right hand and unable to speak
>cosolayer girl is talking to herself and ties a bomb to my left hand
>it’s a grenade and she pulls the pin
>am holding on to grenade for dear life.
>bitch lies down under my chair and talks to herself about how her life doesn’t matter.
>reaches the end of her internal debate and gets up feeling sorry for herself
>says she won’t untie me though
>”Somebody who is a better person may come along and help you.”
>mfw when this crazy cosplayer leaves me tied to the chair holding a live grenade.
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No. 129035 ID: e51896

for the maximum reading experience, play this music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjbNoa5GV3s and put all that in a text to speech program, lol

I'm kidding of course.
No. 129094 ID: 8b660e

The fight with Essence in a nutshell, with me as Arin and my cosolayer as Jon.
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No. 130949 ID: f7ff14

I have a question for all of you participators. Do you think that the Spirit Contaminator will become the next threat big as Essence was or even bigger?

No. 130970 ID: e51896

Not sure. We have so many enemies that it is hard to gauge who's the biggest threat anymore. But I thought Happy had made it clear he is our next opponent after Essence. I guess the threat of Spirit Contaminator depends a little bit on how Null interacts with her maybe?

btw, I have a question, in the beginning of the discussion thread, there is that picture of the spirit from Strange Abnormalities. But who or what is that bird?
No. 130979 ID: bfce93

Gods I hope not...
No. 130985 ID: f7ff14

No, that spirit on the beginning of the discussion quest is just something that was supposed to be the first spirit portrait in the prequel story. But I change it for that other one that showed just the head of the girl.
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No. 131353 ID: e51896

hey, thanks for coming to the debate. Let us keep this civil. I don't want any pie throwing or tomato throwing or limb throwing at each other, lol.

I think we'll address the issue about Lorence sending Stitch to attack Ana and the blacksmith. While it was a shitty thing for him to do, we'll have to look into the context of the perspective in Lorence's eyes.

Lorence looked like he was in a small panic to see Ana was not only at the shop, but standing next to Logan as well (https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/src/149005187962.jpg). Logan is somebody that Lorence knows works directly for Absolution Prime (which we now know that Absolution Prime is a demon trying to use humanity as his puppets, much like how Andrew Goodwill is seen as an evil demon). Lorence seeing Ana with Logan could have given Lorence potential red flags that Logan was trying to recruit Ana or use Ana in some way by feeding her misinformation about what Absolution Prime is fighting for, corrupting Ana (luckily Logan didn't as he seemed to be working separate from Prime at the time). Lorence also knows that Logan is someone who could also potentially be used as a sacrifice for Prime to become the secret Blind Will member to start a hive-mind in the universe until the next cycle. Him sending Stitch could just be a result of him trying to prevent such an outcome especially if he believes that Absolution Prime has already gotten to Ana through Logan at or before enter the shop, leaving him with the only option to send Stitch.

Lorence couldn't just outright tell Ana right there that it is a bad idea to listen to Logan either. Lorence had no idea how long Ana was with Logan to corrupt her or if Prime was with Logan at the time to potentially hear Lorence's warnings. and warning Ana would be difficult with Root being present as it could raise suspicion about what Lorence's knows in front of Root. Plus, we might not have been keen in believing Lorence especially after Absolution in this cycle perished as we formed a friendship with Absolution and Gaia. Lorence is also trying to juggle everything on his plate already to prevent certain outcomes that could lead to Absolution Prime winning and using humanity as his puppets, or Andrew Goodwill winning and being summoned to destroy all of existence, so Lorence could not have been given the chance to set things straight even if he wanted to. Plus, this is a shop that sells information. If they hear Lorence give out those warnings to Ana, the shop could have taken those information to start rumors.
In other cycles Lorence was in, there could also have been similar situations where Ana was in the shop with Logan and Lorence ignored or warned Ana at the shop which lead to disasters, as Lorence had live the cycles countless times and seen the same tragic outcomes happen all those times.

And as far as Stitch attacking the blacksmith goes, I do remember that after Stitch attacked the blacksmith, Stitch was punished for harming the blacksmith, getting grounded. https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/src/149049592724.jpg
I don't think it was Lorence's intention to have Stitch attack the blacksmith in the first place, just to try to prevent an outcome where Absolution Prime takes total control of the universe even if it was extreme.
No. 131354 ID: efa420

Okay I see where you are coming from on this and yes it makes his actions understandable.

But that doesn’t mean it’s okay or right that he did it. Lorence knows the kind of person stitch is and yet in the heat of a moment of blind panic. Lorence used stitch like a a gun and sent him in, if Stitch was the gun Lorence pulled the trigger. He did so without thinking of the consequences of it. In that moment it was easier to kill Ana off and get rid of her than try and understand her.

This is what has me frustrated at the moment. At what point does trying to understand him become apologizing for him? Because that’s what it feels like you’re trying to do. Try to get him in the best light possible so we can give him AJ but ignoring how impulsive and rigid he is. To someone like Lorence the status quo is god and cannot he moved. His track record thus far, to me, shows he is someone who doesn’t deserve to have that kind of power.
No. 131364 ID: e51896

You raise good points, what Lorence did wasn't right. Even though he acted in a panic and with impulse in tight situations, and although it may have been impossible at the time to try to understand Ana without raising suspicion or giving away information, and even if he believes the ends justifies the means based off of previous cycles he had experiences, he still has hurt Ana and her friends mentally and physically.

And yet, Lorence's actions makes me think about how Ana and her voices acted in a similar manner with their actions, doing some immoral things while thinking it is the right thing to do in the spur of the moment when it was actually hurting others in some way, or acting in a panicked state and by impulse, such as Ana beating up Clara until she was unrecognizable, Scarred hurting Logan's daughter thinking she was Essence without asking questions first to Essence or her allies, or Fortune sacrificing future Felafaf to get rid of Spirit Parasite without considering her allies wishes. Looking at it that way, Ana and her voices isn't all that different from Lorence. As much as we might want to admit it, we can't deny that there are similarities between Lorence, Ana and the voices, and their actions.

With their similarities in mind, we do know that Ana and the voices at least want to fix their mistakes, or try to gain forgiveness for their actions, but can't seem to receive it like from Rosalia for example. And I'm wondering, does that also means that Lorence also deeps down yearns for redemption for his actions even if he believes the end goal justifies his actions? Perhaps despite his wishes for redemption, he knows it is impossible to gain any sort of forgiveness for his actions because of the terrible atrocities he is forced to do because of his knowledge of different negative outcomes in different cycles prevents him from taking a more peaceful route for a peaceful outcome for humanity or prevent Prime or Andrew from gaining control of the universe.

I can even think of some instances where Lorence was seeking forgiveness for his actions, such as pleading for forgiveness and help from Root when he invaded a woman's house thinking it was his old wife's home and drugging her asleep, or apologizing to Matilda for being rough on her with his accusations against her during her trial. This at least shows that he isn't above seeking forgiveness for his actions, and may still be seeking it even if he knows it is impossible at this point. Maybe that is why he continues to repeat the cycle countless times? to finally succeed in saving humanity and redeem himself for all his atrocities?
Plus, I think I remember that the memory of his wife that he clings to had kept him from going off the deep-end and prevented him from becoming a full-blown monster and cause far worse thing in the quest. Remember that the watch that Lorence wears is a memento of his wife and in a sense could be in a way be a momento to cling on to his humanity. Maybe it is what was preventing him from killing Ana, and he is currently wrestling with himself to go through with it? (perhaps his watch is his very own WWJD bracelet? Maybe not that far, lol. I don't know if he is still wearing that watch or not)

And speaking of his wife, Lorence himself was treated very unfairly by his wife when he was in prison, and thrown under the bus for crimes he didn't commit by her. And yet, when she pleaded to Lorence for forgiveness, he, despite the suffering he was subjected to, had still managed to keep his will to love her strong. He has the will to not only apologize, but to forgive.

We were told many times that Lorence is someone who has never changed, and never will. So if he has never changed, that means he still has the ability to not be above apologizing, and maybe not be above forgiving others based upon his past actions with wanting to apologize to Matilda, and even forgiving his wife for her unforgivable actions.

So I propose this idea before we decide whether to trust Lorence with AJ or not and to see if Lorence hasn't changed meaning he still retains his humanity from when he was imprisoned: what if we try to get Lorence to apologize to Ana? Ana would tell Lorence that although she understands that his actions were forced by knowledge of previous cycles to prevent bad outcomes and that the end justifies the means, he still traumatized her, and for that, she wishes nothing more than to at least hear him apologize to her for sending Stitch to hurt her, and for trying to hurt her friends, as although what he was doing may have been for world peace, he still traumatized her and she wants an apology for that.

If Lorence is too proud to apologize for causing Ana some traumatic experiences that lead her and the voices to do the things they did, then Ana should mention that his wife was strong enough to ask Lorence for forgiveness, and Lorence had the strength to forgive his wife. then mention that Ana is strong enough to forgive Lorence, but ask Lorence is still strong enough to apologize to Ana like his wife apologized to him, because Ana can't forgive Lorence unless she hears and apology from him and means it.

If he still refuses, then maybe Ana should just forgive him anyway because whether he realizes it or not, he needs to hear he is forgiven from somebody somewhere as he probably never heard it from anyone else, and lord knows he needs to hear it to move on with his life doing a thankless job of living different cycles for world peace, just to see his reaction.

Sometimes an apology is something somebody only wants to hear to forgive.

If you agree, let us discuss here first how we can have Ana ask for an apology from Lorence before we post in the Roots and Branches thread. We should choose our words carefully, not too demanding, and not too pitiful.
No. 131365 ID: 8b660e

We can discuss that here. I’m thinking of having scarred leave for a bit to go wander through the building. If this is bunker city then Laura and Dreamwalker would be here. Maybe we can get them get Ana and bust out if here.
No. 131378 ID: e51896

If it is alright, can we Scarred stay with Ana instead? I apologize but I don't feel very comfortable dragging Laura into this after everything that happened to her. Besides, Wicker Kid also said that Ana is soon going to have to make an important decision and I don't want to disrupt that. And also, I no longer want Ana and the voices to run away from their troubles anymore. I would instead like for them to face them head on, and try to come to some sort of common ground, or maybe even a small truce with Lorence even if in the end Ana and the voices might not be able to see eye to eye with Lorence.

For her argument regarding AJ and Lorence, what Fortune Ana wants to prove to Scarred Ana right now is that Lorence is not a monster, and still has his humanity. to prove that, she wants to show that Lorence still has the will to apologize to Ana for everything he done to her and her friends, and prove that Lorence is still a human with remorse for his actions even if he believes the ends justified the means. I really think he does have guilt bottled up over what he did to Ana as he has shown remorse in the past towards what he did to others such as what he did to the woman at the place that used to be his wife's home, and how he felt guilt for trying to convict Matilda even though she was innocent, even fishing for an apology from her.
I believe if many like the Spirit of Halloween of Wicker Kid have said that Lorence can never change, then that also means he also hasn't changed into a monster who doesn't feel guilt for his actions and is still human yearning for forgiveness even if he is forced to commit atrocities and believes he can only remain unforgivable.

that said, here is what I am planning on Fortune Ana suggesting to Ana:

Ana, show Lorence your missing hand and say "I know what you mean about curators being untrustworthy... but... with that in mind, why do I still deeply miss my curator despite how he kept things secret from me?"

After that, say "I found out too late what was going on around us in this world, and I understand what you did to my friends and me was an act of the ends justifying the means from the knowledge from previous cycles..."

"...But Lorence... with your actions of sending Stitch at me or threatening my friends, you and Root still deeply hurt and traumatized me, even to the point of us getting too scared to think logically and act in impulse trying to defend ourselves, forcing us to make bad decisions and lead us to this point of no return...

"You're one of the many people who broke me the most, Lorence, And even though I am doomed now, and you may see your actions as just, I want to know if you feel any kind remorse for your actions. After everything you did to hurt me, I just want to hear you apologize for what you did to me."

If Lorence thinks he is above an apology, Ana, tell him "look at your watch you stole from that house. it is a memento of your wife that clings you to your humanity and remember your good morals. Your wife was strong enough to apologize to you for her unforgivable actions, and you were strong enough to forgive her. I am strong enough to forgive you, but I first need to know you are strong enough to apologize. Not just to me, but to yourself."

What do you think? If you feel you need to edit anything, I would highly appreciate it. Keep in mind I want to hear an apology from Lorence, but I don't want it to be too demanding, and I don't want it to sound too wishy-washy either. (For example, I'm not sure whether or not to mention Wild Cat in this conversation).
No. 131379 ID: 8b660e

Don’t mention WC. Lorence still had a prejudice towards currators, and besides WC’s ability to hide Ana. He might suspect that she has something planned. Everything else is great.
No. 131391 ID: e51896

What are your thoughts about what Lorence had to say? What he said was what I suspected about him and his actions and I'm relieved that he is still human to acknowledge that his actions are unforgivable. But despite that, he was still able to apologize to Ana for what he did when she asked for one, showing that he wasn't above apologizing. This shows that he still haves his humanity to know that his actions are wrong even if he is forced to do them in order to prevent something worse from occuring, and I think that is what makes him different from someone like Essence or Happy. While Essence embraced hurting others without remorse, Lorence is aware that while he had no choice but to hurt others in order to prevent the blind will or Andrew from being summoned, he has remorse for his actions with what he needed to do. And he wasn't forceful with people like Anthony with what he requested him to do and even left when Anthony requested him unlike Essence who was forceful. And I think after living so many cycles of not having anybody ask him to apologize, I think the request from Ana to get his apology was what he needed to hear.

I'm wondering if Scarred will be able to have Ana forgive Lorence after hearing what he had to say and hearing his apology, or if she believes he should remain unforgiven by Ana? Lorence himself said that him apologizing won't make any of his actions right for how he made the other versions of Ana suffer, or many others for example, and believes that he has sinned too much to not have a good afterlife. But I think if he is able to at least apologize for his sins like he did to Ana, do you think he can be forgiven, or is he too far gone off the deep end?

When all that is said, I personally no longer want to view Lorence as an enemy.
No. 131394 ID: 89ee1a

Honestly, my gut intuition is telling me not to trust him with AJ. I think he’s taken a step in the right direction. But words are cheap and actions speak louder than words. Scarred may not say she forgives him, because in all honesty she doesn’t and wont ever forgive him for it. But she will concede this one. But my gut is honestly telling me giving him AJ is going to be a mistake.
No. 131395 ID: 89ee1a

And of course we need to discuss what’s going to happen to us now. Whether or not Lorence can be redeemed is definitely up in the air but it won’t mean anything if the rest of the cult wants us dead.
No. 131401 ID: e51896

Hmm, we're at an impasse of what we believe we should do.

I still deeply believe trying to give AJ over to Lorence is what we need to do no matter how painful it will be to let him go, and this might be the only small window of chance we have to do this if I believe this this will keep AJ alive.

Melkior the incubus said that Prime will eventually find out about AJ since Prime will be able to detect AJ's power as his powers grows in time, thus making Ana a large target for Prime, especially since Ana does not have Wildcat anymore to hide some of AJ's power from Prime. And once Prime senses AJ's powers, AJ and Ana will not be able to be strong enough to defend themselves.
It doesn't really help that Wicker Kid and the Spirit of Halloween already says that Ana is not going to have a good ending and won't live to an old age and I don't want to drag AJ into his death with Ana's fate.

And while Ana can't let AJ escape this world, Lorence however somehow managed to sneak from cycle to cycle without Prime noticing, and since he has all sorts of knowledge and technology, I'm sure he has a way to keep AJ hidden. Plus, seeing that if AJ can gain strength as time passes, it would make a lot of sense for AJ to follow Lorence allowing AJ to grow strong enough to oppose Prime. Lorence did not expect Ana to ask for an apology as none of the other Ana's he spoke with ever did that, perhaps we should to do another unexpected thing to Lorence by revealing AJ to make this story go into an unexpected new direction.

I'm interested to know, what do you think might happen if we reveal and hand over AJ over to Lorence? And how can we protect AJ from Prime and Ana's fate if we do decide to keep him?

(sorry for the late response, I was stuck with work)
No. 131402 ID: a5d601

I see the logic behind it but would Lorence actually do it? Would he be willing to become a target? As for what others say about not having a happy ending? I don’t believe in that. I think there’s always a way but it’s gonna be a bitch to find. Kind of like the “earn your happy ending trope.”


Also this doesn’t answer my earlier question, they have Ana. Now what? Even if Lorence doesn’t want to kill us or have us killed that’s not a guarantee others won’t try while we’re here. If AJ is protected great, but if Ana dies I still count this as a lose condition.
No. 131403 ID: a5d601

Okay so this literally just occurred to me but I want you to think of this. So far this whole universe can be thought of a a repeating cycle, right? In other words it’s a Möbius strip, one without beginning or end but it always repeats itself in some ways.

Okay so we’ve seen that Lorence does have some humanity in him. That much I get, but he also confirmed in his speech that to him, The status quo is god.

Also AJ from what we’ve seen of him can be easily influenced by his host and hosts decisions. In the now dead timeline he even took on a darker form to reflect the changes Ana had made and her darker personality. I know you want to think he could change Lorence but what we’ve seen there’s just not enough evidence to support this. Lorence, whether he likes it or not can ignore his moral compass for what he believes is the best action. Which is why I equate him so closely with Prime because both of them have that sort of “the ends justify the means” sort of attitude. But here’s where I am about to get wild with this theory, if that’s the case then what if giving him to Lorence would be creating exactly the same circumstances to create Prime again as he is now? I know you want AJ to take over as Prime eventually but let me ask you, what if he does? What palpable change is going to happen? Or have you just replaced the old and dying version of Prime with the younger version of himself with the same morals?

And, no offense, wouldn’t that be just the kind of thing Absurdity would do? How ironic would it be for both you and Lorence? His greatest enemy is dead! Prime is defeated! And now AJ is on the throne! And he’s the one who taught him how to think! But ohhhhhh shit... I’ve just created the very thing I spent eons trying to get rid of. And then, let’s go another step further, what if AJ now Prime kills the old Lorence, then sets up a new one in exactly the same way in order to ensure his rebirth and to keep his status quo?

Sorry if I’m going all conspiracy theory here but it’s just something that occurred to me.
No. 131405 ID: e51896

You raise good points to consider. While I still stand by my decision, I think for now, just to keep the story moving, lets see what Lorence wants to say or do before we decide on AJ.
No. 131423 ID: efa420

You know... I can’t even bring myself to be happy with the whole “I told you so.” routine...

So, how’re we gonna get out of this one? I suppose if we’re gonna mention AJ by this point it would be now. But I don’t know if that would be a good or a bad thing anymore. It might just further his incentive to kill us. If you want to go that route Scarred might have the key to telling him what he needs to hear to convince him we’re not on Prime’s side.

Alternatively we could just tell him why the reason why Root hasn’t killed us yet. It’s because he’s fucking lonely, and he’s the only other person who can hear voices like Ana can.
No. 131428 ID: e51896

I actually think I have an idea as to why Root hasn't killed Ana, it all probably has to do with how the voices once tried to save Root from Delilah when he was bound in a wheelchair. If I remember, he seemed to really respect the voices for trying to save his life from Delilah. Not to mention Derrick was also there to try to save Root, and Root even wanted Derrick to take his place as the leader if I remember. Perhaps that moment was when he actually finally found people that cared for his wellbeing when everyone else at the time saw him as a disabled person no one cared for and even mistreated like Delilah.

I'm going off of memory and might need to confirm these. But what are your thoughts, Harbard?
No. 131429 ID: 8b660e

Possibly, and that’s part of it but I think there’s one bigger reason why call me crazy but I think he’s in love with her.
No. 131623 ID: 38927d

I have an announcement I am not going to be at my home for a couple of days, so I won't be able to update my story. But I will return in Monday so don't worry the story will continue.
No. 131983 ID: e51896

>Stop for a second, just hold on. Let me make this clear. If she goes, Ana willsuffer a fate worse than death. Ana goes we stay, okay then we guide Laura hopefully out of a bomb scenario. Ana however, her leaving? That’s game over right there. Because Dreamwalker will know what happened, and what she just did to someone he has basically adopted as a daughter. And he will punish her for it. This is isn't even a threat it’s me staying in his character. So I’m telling you dude it’s not a good thing no matter how you try to phrase or look at it. There is no silver lining in this, Ana goes, quest fucking over.

Would you really want Dreamwalker to kill Ana? I was hoping that he would at least look through her memories and understand the situation she was in was a very bad and impossible situation and would be forgiving even if he was really upset with her. And I was hoping he would trust Laura's life with us to save her in Ana's body. I know that Dreamwalker said that he loves humanity. and if he loves humanity, he would understand their faults enough to forgive their sins and mistakes, especially since Ana feels really bad about her actions and would want forgiveness even though she believes she might not get it. I was hoping Dreamwalker would show forgiveness when no one else would. plus, if he kills ana, he'll kill AJ as well, his nephew.

What i think we need to do is to make light out of a bad situation. Some things in life are unavoidable, an unfortunate fact of life. we just need to press on with the cards dealt we're dealt with. Make lemonade outta lemons
No. 131984 ID: 9554be

He wouldn’t kill her. He’d mentally break her for her actions. He’d see why she did what she did, he’d understand too. But at the same time justice has to be met. I’ve stated from day one of his character, he is more of “an eye for an eye” type of person. He does love humanity, but Laura was bonded to him and he considered her his daughter. Imagine if you could for a moment, someone takes away your child and puts them into a dangerous situation in which death is a very real possibility. Yes there are people with them who could help her, but it’s not a guarantee. Would you forgive them for it? His sympathies only go so far. Remember he still has a curse on the cult where whenever they sleep they have horrible nightmares, and that was just for the death of his brother.
No. 131986 ID: e51896

Then we've reached another impasse then.
I really don't want to say this, but sadly, I don't know if I can handle another impasse especially this time around. I can't help but feel the quest probably gotten really out of hand because we both wanted vastly different things from the character(s) we are guiding and their paths, and because of that, we've gotten into an unwinnable situation by doing decisions that contradict what I want and what you want, and it is starting to exhaust me, and I'm not sure if or how I can press forward on this quest with these roadblocks we have when we want to decide what to do in important situations. I'm not saying you or I are at fault, just that we want different things that is causing us to play tug-a-war with the decisions we want.

That said, I apologize, but I might need to take a hiatus off Roots and Branches to clear my head a bit. I'll still participate in the investigation with the draw thread, and Bricks of Utopia, but I need a hiatus off of Roots and Branches. I don't want to stop participating in Roots and Branches, but I don't think I can handle another roadblock in our decisions right now as it is taking its toll on me. I apologize :(
No. 131987 ID: f7ff14

I will respect the way that you feel but I intend to finish that part and believe me all of that turmoil is going towards something. There is an end goal that I want to achieve with this part, but like all things in life, it takes it. I know it is too much coming from me to say for you to be patient. Just remember it can't rain all the time.
No. 131988 ID: e51896

I'm alright, don't worry. I want to be clear that It wasn't that I was complaining about the bad situation and turmoil we were given, as I was ready to try to continue through with what we were dealt with and roll with the punches, to make light out of a bad situation by continuing to help Laura while Ana lived her new life and see where things go from there and where the story would take us and have the characters grow from this challenge with the optimism that Laura and Ana may see each other again when things get better. I can tough it out.

I think what it was is that I just got a little frustrated when I heard that Dreamwalker was going to get revenge on Ana while I wanted to try to pull through with the cards we are dealt with, and hearing that dreamwalker would threaten to destroy Ana's mind just felt like we are being forced into taking a different direction, and we'd be giving up instead of pulling through the bad situation and grow from the experience, and I think that is what made me want to step away from the quest for a little bit.

That said, don't worry, I'll continue through and be patient. I just got a little irritated after what I read about Dreamwalker, but I also want to apologize to Harbard if I came across as immature and offended you in any way in my previous post, I think I just needed to vent my frustrations, but I am fine now. Are we cool?
No. 131992 ID: 9554be

More than cool dude.
No. 132089 ID: 2bd15b
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What are mortals to the gods other than abandoned dolls with interchangeable parts.
No. 132101 ID: 8b660e

Credo in deum patrem omnipotentem
Creatorem caeli et terrae
Et in absolutionem, voluntatis suae testamentum
Dominum nostrum
Qui conceptus est de spiritu sanctum.
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