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107070 No. 107070 ID: 23060e

Here you can ask me theauthor about anything connected to the quest and I will answer it as soon as possible
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No. 124908 ID: fbf7b6

Question: can a turn be used to trade items, like give multiple items to or take multiple items from (but not use on) other allies, or is that not allowed?
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No. 124909 ID: aad407

>>124908
Yeah you can do tha6
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No. 124910 ID: fbf7b6

Cool, I will make my move sometime after my morning job

One last question for future referance: if someone is k.o.ed, will simply healing them bring them back?
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No. 124911 ID: aad407

>>124910
No that wont work, you know how to bring somone from deadt
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No. 124912 ID: fbf7b6

I meant knocked out like Felafaf was, or like flint is currently, not dead. I know healing cannot bring a dead person back, but can ir bring back a knocked out person?
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No. 124913 ID: aad407

>>124912
Well Essence isn't going for knocking you out, when she depletes your health you are dead
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No. 124914 ID: c8b338

I know she is aiming to kill. But there is something I am thinking about doing, and it might help to know anyway before wasting a turn, thanks.
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No. 124916 ID: 9a5be9

You know I'm really tempted to ask harbard if he can draw each of the seven characters representing their sins and some way but I know I can't because Anthony's drawings are being heavily monitored by our enemies
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No. 124918 ID: aad407

This question is for the participator who controls Fortune Ana. I just want to make one this sure, what does this statement mean

>Page of swords is now Knight of Swords
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No. 124921 ID: ae9b99

oh, the page of sword becoming knight of sword just means my Tarot sword is upgrading. It upgrades a new level each time I get a successful card roll. here is the description from my move set:

Tarot Sword: A sword tarot card that summons a sword that is based off the suit of swords tarot cards. it changes attack level from Ace of Swords, to King of Swords depending on if I receive a successful card combination. The sword starts out unbelievably weak as the Ace of sword, but will gain one level of strength for each successful magic card combination. After the sword is used, its level goes back to Ace.
For example, the sword starts out very weak as Ace of sword. if I were to get a successful card combination like "Magician's potion" the Ace of Swords card becomes Two of swords card, and so on, making it stronger.
She throws the sword she summons from a sword card at one enemy.


so far, I have had 11 successful card rolls (long battle, yikes) and got it up to Knight of swords. I just need two more successful card rolls to get it first to Queen of Swords and then max out the sword's level to king of sword to make it tremendously scary powerful.

For reference of each card and how far we are: https://www.biddytarot.com/tarot-card-meanings/minor-arcana/suit-of-swords/
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No. 124922 ID: ae9b99

also, I sent you Null's answer on discord.

We just need Anthony at this battlefield here, and the gang is all here.
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No. 124923 ID: 5dde1c
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124923

>>124922
I can guarantee you Anthony would be of almost no help to either side.

By the way I doodled what’s PGB and dt+ might have looked like.
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No. 124951 ID: ae9b99

Hey Devoid. I wondering if you had the chance to look at my message giving Null's answer to Demoria to you on Discord or if you are having trouble getting on Discord.

Also, October is about a little over a month away. I am wondering if another guessing game on Halloween costumes will take place.
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No. 124952 ID: aad407

>>124951
I have trouble using Discord, I saw your answer but it disappeared before I could read it. Just post your answer in the fight, it will make things much easier. As for Halloween I will be doing some event but nothing big, just wait and you will see
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No. 124956 ID: ae9b99

Ok, I'll post what I said on the battle in just a little bit. I only have a request for Harbard: I know I cannot stop you, and you can read what Null has to say if you want. But I'd really appreciate that you will not read what he has to say in void speak to Demoria. Storytelling wise, I want to keep what Null says a surprise and not cause spoilers. I am sure Demoria will reveal a rundown on what Null will say in a nutshell when she gives her answer to Essence.

Devoid: I do want you to try this when you get the chance and get back on Discord:

if you are on a tablet or phone and once you get on discord, on the top right corner of the app, there is a icon symbol with two people. select that symbol, and then choose my username. after selecting that, a small window should open up. swipe down that window and select "send message." You should be able to see what I said there.

if you are using discord on a computer, go to the Roots and Branches private discussion page, and on the right of the window, right click my username, and select message. You should be able to see what I wrote there.

I want you to try this regardless of me sending the message on the fight. That way, you can try the idea of doing a secret quest with Harbard or me if you ever think about doing it :)
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No. 125023 ID: ae9b99

Hey, I am working a morning and afternoon shift so I'll be free to post my answer in the evening (on my break right now)

I just want to ask before I make my attack and give my answer to demoria this evening: do you want me to make a move list for Null here? If so, may I incorporate one of mr. Crumpet's attacks seeing as he got absorbed? >>119893 (what moves does he even have?)
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No. 125024 ID: aad407

>>125023
You don't need to make a move list, just have them memorized. That way it will be a surprise when you use them. As for that attack you can use it, but it won't be a one hit ko
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No. 125033 ID: ae9b99

>>125024
I know that the absorbing move I can use on my opponents, though I see that more of a "pokeball" move where if Null's target is weak enough, he has a higher chance of absorbing his enemies inside the void gate.

I was more asking along the lines that since Null had absorbed Mr. Crumpet the giant cookie, can he use whatever attacks Mr. Crumpet may have had when he was still alive? (not that it matters much, Mr. Crumpet probably had weak moves. This is more for if he absorbs someone more powerful further down the story)

Also, to go along with keeping things a surprise with Null's moves, I think to make things interesting, Null has a ability called "void cloud" which is automatically activated upon the battlefield. Void cloud is kind of like how Laura has "summon", Scarred has "corprealize" and Fortune has "The Chariot".

What "Void Cloud" does is simply keeps everything he says and thinks in void speak so nobody except Demoria can hear his voice or read his thoughts It also prevents the crystal ball from reading what move he will use.
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No. 125054 ID: ae9b99

Sorry it took so long to post, but I needed to spend some time going through the posts twice to record what items we used throughout the battle, so I can make a list of items we still have. (also, wow this battle had quite a lot of posts for me to go through)

Laura has:

4 elixers
2 healing foods: (Grandma Brownie's Chocolate Chunker Wunker-Bunkers! Now with even bigger chunks of chocolate chunks!, pizza )
3 cure potions

Scarred has
2 Potions of Healing
2 Potions of Mana

Fortune has
nothing

I am hoping I didn't make a mistake here.

off topic one of my most favorite games from the gamecube era is being re-released on steam: Killer7 https://store.steampowered.com/app/868520/killer7/ I think you both might like it. It is a mindfuck of a game.
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No. 125188 ID: b76939

Hey, just want to let you guys know there was a weird family issue that came up yesterday that required my attention. Everything is fine, so don't worry. However, I might not be able to think hard and post today. You can update the battle without my input today if you want.
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No. 125190 ID: f75cef

>>125188
Is everything alright? Also don't worry I will not update the story wideout you
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No. 125192 ID: ae9b99

everything is fine and taken care of as I said, so no need to worry, but thanks for your concern. I assure you It was nothing bad, but just something really bizarre that happened. I just won't have the time today to think about what to say in the battle thread today is all.
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No. 125268 ID: ae9b99

Hey, I'm back (as seen with my post yesterday)

I have a question: may we ask the spirit from Narty's story and is currently hosting the radio tower story any question we want when the radio tower story is finished? (I'm not just talking about only questions regarding the radio tower.) I know we will have to probably answer a riddle with consequences, but I feel stumped about something that I would like answered.

also a theory: the thing that put PGB and dt+ in hibernation is either the Ash Tree disguising itself, or a representative of the Ash Tree. It said that the picture we tried to analyze was not a science beaker, but a picture of a girl. It is most likely that same picture of the girl that was in the Halloween party which had the spirit, and used by Ana to talk to the Ash Tree.

I will say: I can't wait to play as PGB. I have an idea of what my goals for PGB will be. It will be far different than what my goals for Fortune Ana is.
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No. 125288 ID: 2dfbd9

>>125268
When the radio tower short story is over I will arrange for you to talk with the spirit from Narty's story and any other character that you want to ask that was in that story. As for that theory containing the PGB and dt+, that whole story isn't my main concern. When I do start doing it, you will see how it will function. And finally yes I know about the game Killer 7 a very strange and confusing game
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No. 125376 ID: d1a898

So me and my coplayer have come to an agreement. We want to finish the radio tower section which looks like it will be concluding very soon as we figure we might be able to get another chance to talk with Natty’s monster and ask t how to beat the main fight with Essence.

Also to my coplayer we need to discuss on discord if we want to summon Dervan or not.
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No. 125377 ID: 068eb8

>>125376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLyasJPyUU
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No. 125379 ID: 7aebbb

Also here’s something I made for fun. The problem with characters having theme songs is that they can never tell the whole story of the character. So here is a playlist for Scarred Ana.

Lift me Up- Five Finger Death Punch
Blood and Thunder- Mastodon
Rolandskvadet (The Song of Roland)- Trio Mediaeval & Birger Mistereggen
Warrior- Disturbed
Free Will Sacrifice- Amon Amarth
Here comes the Sun- The Beatles
Ain’t no Grave- Johnny Cash
Alfadhirhaiti- Heilung
The Ballad of Mona Lisa- Panic! At the Disco
Bartholomew- The Silent Comedy
The Cave- Mumford and Sons
Cherry Bomb- The Runaways
Wrong Side of Heaven- Five Finger Death Punch
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No. 125391 ID: 068eb8

This is the music for Essence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_AyjjBAV8c
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No. 125395 ID: 210c4f

>>125391

If one didn't know better, it feels like she might be your most favorite character in the quest with the amount of attention you have been giving her these days.

Sorry I disappeared. I have been too nerve-wracked to post, let alone too nerve-wracked to even read the recent update in the battle topic. Spending long periods of time brainstorming only to have it end in failure has made it difficult and has been making me too nervous. Especially since we are now facing something with the strength of over 12 people with one of them being a god-like being. It is hard to come up with a stragedy right now. Initially, we remembered at the time that Null had use omega powers while his license to use it has expired as said by one of the officers back in Absurdity's home. We though letting Triunphant know will have him report to his superiors for help, or give us a weapon of some sort, or at least some advicr. Did not expect for us to choose one of them to be sent into battle.

After work, I will read the update and speak with Harbard on discord regarding what he wants to talk about.

Speaking of Null, I do not know if he is now dead or not (be kind of a shame if he died, but nobody in the universe he is from liked him anyway, so no huge loss if he is dead probably) but if he is still alive, or manages to survive after the battle, I'd imagine him becoming mentally broken, severely traumatized after the ordeal. He probably just beat Clara in the record of being the most brutally injured by having every single bone in his body broken after all, lol.
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No. 125420 ID: 068eb8
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125420

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se1DagkwMFs
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No. 125421 ID: 5de6c8

Yeah, I knew beforehand there would be severe negative consequences for having Null make that decesion. I did so anyway to help try to make for a more interesting story.
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No. 125435 ID: ae9b99

I should say this in regards to you saying we are probably sick of Essence's presence. I will say that as a character, she doesn't bother me as much as Harbard hates her. I can take her insults pretty well, and I can take the tricks she pulls on us that we fall for (as they are partly our fault for not being more attentive at some points.) I see her as a worthy opponent in some ways as an enemy.

However, the thing that really bother me about her is her powers to interrupt our quest to hinder our progress with no way of us stopping her whenever she wants with no limitations or repercussions in doing so. For some examples: Essence kidnapping us away whenever she wants (like taking us away from Ana when we finally made it to the hotel, or kidnapping us from Absurdity when we first met her),
or Essence stealing our items whenever she wants (like our Halloween treat point that one time),
or forcing us to switch people we are guiding (like switch us from guiding Lorence to Maya, one of the Ambassadors maids)
or even hurting people we talk to in order to either silence them when we are about to get important info from them, or prevent them from becoming our allies when we try to become their friend only to have Essence injure them and have them angry at us.

It feels like it is impossible to make progress in the story as long as she can spy on us and interrupt our quest to kidnap us, steal our items, or silence people we talk to whenever she wants with no way of stopping her.

I'm hoping winning this battle will at least put a stop to all those interruptions. Granted, she could still be kept alive and continue being our enemy trying to stop us if we beat her in the battle after all (she is immortal after all), but her interrupting our quest whenever she pleases with no way of stopping her I hope we could put a stop to at least.
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No. 126158 ID: cb00b1

Hey devoid, I am not sure if you were informed: Harbard told me on discord that he is having a super busy week and won't have time for questing at the moment. That is why he has been a bit silent right now.
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No. 126164 ID: 70be57
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126164

>>126158
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpnUrPUlJXY
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No. 126167 ID: 70be57
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126167

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo

The way how she interrupts you is because what she is. All those abilities and even you being something like a transparent phantom come from Essence the first one who was merged with the Ash tree. You are connected to her and she is the one in the control of this coexistence that you share. There is a reason why she sees herself as the chains on the devil card, it is because she knows that she is in control of you two. That is why this fight is so important, this is your chance to break the chains and be free from her influence once and for all. This is a battle to the death only one side will come out of it alive
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No. 126171 ID: ae9b99

>>126164
We'll wait until Harbard comes back before we continue then. Besides, I could use the time to try to continue working on Nathaniel's short ghost story (I was going to finish it for the ghost stories quest from the draw thread, but I needed to job search as much as I could at the time)

I'm looking forward to the halloween costumes as well.

>>126167
fair enough.

One last thing, sorry if what I posted for Null was weird. I was thinking about the post and thinking it might have been kind of out there. I like to imagine that once Null consumes someone, he holds a friendly job interview to determine what their roll for his body is. But that is just an idea. Feel free to retcon, or ignore any part of what I posted, I'll understand. It is your story after all. :)
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No. 126172 ID: 70be57

>>126171
The thing that you posted for Null wasn't weird. I did let you say anything you wanted and the thing that you made him say is something which I can work with
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No. 126351 ID: ae9b99

That scene with Gray face reminds me of this gem from Vinesauce: https://youtu.be/RUd3jShUcLE?t=248
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No. 126356 ID: 70be57

>>126351
Yeah pretty much
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No. 126360 ID: ae9b99

After seeing the youtube link to your latest update, all I can say is I'm glad you listen to Jack Stauber's weird music as well.
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No. 126361 ID: 70be57

>>126360
Yeah well, that was more of using his music and making an animated music video out of it. But I must admit that I heard some of Jack Stauber's work and it feels like it belongs on Adult Swim. Right now I am waiting for the other participator to continue the story with the battle, Scarred is the only one who needs to make a move in your team. Speaking of which have you been talking to Harbard Grim on discord?
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No. 126362 ID: 37fbee

I haven't spoke to him recently on discord. I know he has been pretty busy as of late. I will try to get in touch with him tonight after work.
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No. 126363 ID: 70be57

>>126362
If it is alright with you, I would like to talk with you on Viber. You already have my number
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No. 126384 ID: ae9b99

Been messaging Harbard. Seems he has been busy, but he has gotten caught up with a lot of stuff which is good to hear.

I'll see what I can do about Viber depending on my schedule. I'll aim to contact you either a day or two (from where I live).
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No. 126385 ID: 70be57

>>126384
Ok, I am glad that Harbard is alright, I was afraid that something happened to him. As for our chat just send me a message on the discussion thread when you are ready to talk
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No. 126390 ID: ae9b99

Getting used to Viber right now. There is a bit of troubleshooting that I need to figure out first, and I am asking Harbard for help on Discord. After I figure it out, I'll let you know I am ready. Thanks for you patience.
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No. 126391 ID: 70be57

>>126390
No problem, I must apologize for being so pushy about using Viber in the first place
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No. 126392 ID: ed7bfe

It's cool. Harbard helped me out and i now got you in my contacts. Sent you a couple text messages to test it as well. I will be at wotk though so i will try contacting you tomorrow.
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No. 126423 ID: 3583d1

THE FUN HAS ARRIIIIIVED!

Thank you very much! How’s it going?
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No. 126427 ID: ae9b99

>>126423
nice Tarzan reference. Welcome back.
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No. 127411 ID: 70be57
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127411

Soon something dead will be alive once again
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No. 127857 ID: 70be57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirVtiJuvDs

I returned from my trip and I am ready to continue where I left off. I must apologise for not updating but I was out of the city and somebody showed interest in continuing the 4-way chess quest. Hmmm I must admit that I didn't anticipate that happening but as long there is interest I will keep it going
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No. 127975 ID: 1f01a6

Why? Because fuck this bullshit that’s why.

I’m not going to sit through months and months of this anymore, and because this year long railroad has gone on far enough. I’m done wasting my time with Essence and her bullshit, and I’m done wasting time on this dumb jrpg, those games usually suck anyway. And fuck the items we were supposed to get by the end. My patience can only be worn so thin.

Absurdity, dude, you asked me if you were a mean story teller. No, it’s not mean storytelling, this is ungrateful storytelling. The issue is that you’re unwilling to comprise and end things that should have ended months ago. I know you’ve been planning this for month and your whole “pascifism isn’t easy,” I’m sorry but that’s complete crap and you know it. This isn’t undertale, so far our choices have had zero impact and “pacifism” as you define it means jack shit. So I’m derailing this crap. And as for the promised rainbow, god damnit we deserve a god damned rainbow because we’ve put up with this for literally a year now. I think that’s completely fair. I’m not asking for things to get easier I’m asking you to be a better story teller and quest author and know when things have dragged on for too long, and DONT LIE ABOUT IT BEING OVER. That’s what makes me mad the most, YOU LIED.
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No. 127978 ID: 70be57

>>127975
Yes you are right, this is me right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNGZo5gn_tc
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No. 128689 ID: e51896

Sorry for the wait. this is one of the hardest choices in this quest after all.

Here is what we know: Harbard's main goal in this quest is to try to save the world by stopping the fog, while My main goal is to just save Ana's life and her soul by finding a way to stop the dimensional cycle since she is linked to it by Essence (preferably without releasing Andrew, or find something else to imprison him with.)

Currently the cult sees Ana as an enemy, but Lawrence has stated that he will currently only attack Ana if he comes across her implying that even though his mission is to kill Ana, she is currently not their top priority especially since we told him Ana only wants to survive. Top priority for Lawrence and the cult currently seems to probably be rescuing Root from the wolves, and acting as a lawyer for Godfrey's trial (which makes me wonder why he can't have someone else take his place as prosecutor, like Luvia for example, but whatever, just means the cult has more distractions for Ana to take advantage of).
If we go for Harbard's goal of trying to stop the fog to turn things back to normal, then that will mean Ana will be put on the cult's top priority to kill. Not to mention, it was stated that the wolves, and the Ambassador, and many other groups and gods prefer to keep the fog going, so they too might try to kill Ana, not just the cult. We can't also forget Cera foretelling Ana's death if we go after them. She spoke about that like it is a guarantee as if she saw it with her own eyes.

As for Absolution, he might want the fog to continue, but he seems more intent in making sure the dimensional cycle is not messed with to keep Andrew imprisoned, and so that he can continue using the cycle as a way to experiment and play with the universe like his toybox, using its inhabitants to his advantage and as his play things. If we go for my goal to try to destroy the cycle in order to save Ana's soul, that will mean that Absolution will see us as a main enemy and send his crusaders after us. Not to mention if the dimensional tribunal finds out about us trying to break the cycle, he too may send his men after us.

Here are my personal thoughts: I don't really want to play a hero, I just want to save Ana's life and her soul by stopping the cycle. I know escaping this world will probably save Ana's life but I know that escaping with Dervan is most likely only a temporary solution as while her life might be saved, her soul will still be tied to the dimensional cycle and won't truly escape from that world. Her spirit will most likely not find peace after living her life, and only find herself stuck in the cycle and not being able to enter the afterlife like the other spirits we saw (like Scarred's old warrior buddies we saw during the battle) I also spoke with DeVoid, and he said that looking into the prequel will only reveal how to stop the fog. It will not reveal anything on stopping the dimensional cycle

that being said, if we go for the goals of both saving the world from the fog like Harbard wants, and ending the cycle like I want, then we should not expect to make anymore allies on this quest, and be prepared to have just about everyone as our enemies whether we like it or not, even expect some betrayals. Basically, I feel It'll pretty much be almost like an us against the world scenario.

saving the world by stopping the fog (Harbard's goal) is already one of the hardest paths in the story, and trying to stop the dimensional cycle is also probably a goal that will be just as hard, so accomplishing both Harbard and my goal will be like the difficulty of both of those paths put together. We will basically be against everyone with just the allies we currently have with chance of betrayals as well. That said, failure at certain points will be expected, and bad stuff for us like betrayals and deaths of some of our allies (Boxhead, spider kids) or even some of our own playable characters (the voices, Dreamwalker, Nathaniel, Null, Anthony) I feel will be a guarantee.

Harbard, take no offense to this, but from past experiences in this quest, I find that you do not take bad situations or failure all too well. And with the higher difficulty that we will face with trying to accomplish both your goals and mine, I fear you might go a little overboard off the deep end with how you will react, and your reactions doesn't make me too happy to play as I cannot stand such drama.

That said, I have a favor: I will go with your choice to look into the prequel, but only if you tell me why you want Ana to risk her life to stop the fog, and if you promise me that you will expect the worse, and not expect most things to go the way we will want (because it won't). Promise me you won't take failure too seriously and overreact, but instead embrace them, learn from them, and adapt to the situations in a calm collected manner. You can't gain success without failure after all.

I admire your passion towards the quest, but please remember that overall It is just an interactive story, we shouldn't take it all too seriously. That said, overall, I still want to play through this quest with you, Harbard.
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No. 128690 ID: 70be57

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B01o2xtJwgk

Magnificent truly magnificent! Responses like this shows that you are really passionate about the story and that you are paying attention to everything that is happening, you have no idea how much this long coment means to me. You sir are a true trooper!
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No. 128691 ID: 70be57

Also there is one thing that you didn't account for and that would be Happy. Do you know what that that person wants to accomplish?
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No. 128692 ID: 8b660e

>>128689
I do tend to take things very seriously, and for that I apologize. I don’t really know why I do it but sometimes it just affects me more than it really should.

Now, you’re both right and wrong about the goals that I want. The main reason I want to continue with the prequel actually has nothing to do with the fog or anything like that at all. Hell I really only want to continue the prequel because of curiosity to how it all began. Nothing more.

Secondly, the moral quandary I face has nothing to do with “saving the world.” In fact what I want is to save Ana and get her out of the dimensional cycle. But here’s the thing, the problem I see is like “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” So we break Ana out of the cycle, and then what? There are still a shit load of people that are trapped in the cycle who probably would also want to get out. The way I see it, the only conflict worth stopping are ones that want to keep us in the dimensional cycle.

Unfortunately this will place us at odd with Absolution, but I think certain members of the cult would be more willing to listen to reason. Because if we are all trapped in this cycle, the conflict of the fog is meaningless.

Essentially what I want is to have EVERYONE leave the cycle. Everyone leaves, only one person stays. The one person who this whole cycle was created for, Andrew Goodwill. If we all go, he has to stay.
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No. 128789 ID: 70be57
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128789

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HdyH-vqR4
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128803

>>128789
For Scarred Ana
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No. 128804 ID: e51896

I apologize for the wait. I just didn't have the motivation at the time to do just about anything at all other than nap. I'm not sure why, but I'll probably blame it on being too drained from work (or maybe I shouldn't? it's too easy to blame our own shortcomings on other things). whatever the case, I needed a break.

>>128789
For the grading: there is no such thing as perfection. the most we can do is look at our weaknesses from this grading and see what we need to improve on. In fact, perfection is BORING!!!
But I will admit we are pretty much the worst when it comes to being stealthy or keeping secrets from our enemies. Not just from our stealth from Essence, but from other moments including being caught during the date with Felafaf and Lawrence (totally forgot Felafaf could see my character and forgot to tell her to keep me a secret), or revealing AJ to Andrew and the cult, or revealing checking out the prequel to the Ambassador (that was Null's fault. I wanted to at the time establish Null as a villain. I apologize to Harbard for that and feel really bad for doing that). There are other examples, but you get the idea
Overall At this point, we need to get some serious training on how to be stealthy and keep secrets (or at least what little we have) from our enemies if we are to succeed in any kinds of goals.
At the very least, I am starting to see a little bit of improvement (just a tiny bit) when we kept Absolution jr a secret from Absolution Prime. It might not be a secret for long since some members of the cult and Andrew already know of AJ, but it's an improvement nonetheless.

For the prize: getting Laura out alive is enough of a prize. You didn't need to give us a secret about Essence as a prize, but thanks. Honestly, I checked and I still can't figured out what Essence is hiding in her appearance as you say. I'll have to look harder later.

>>128690
Thanks. I'm sure there were some things I missed (like Happy as you pointed out), but I wanted to point out what risks we will have to face from my knowledge depending on which choice we make. Honestly sometimes there is just so much things to keep track of that I fear that I may forget something important that could cost us dearly

>>128691
I'm not sure what Happy wants to accomplish. He doesn't appear or say all that much, The most we can do is guess. Essence did mentioned he is someone who doesn't like destiny. As Essence puts it, he wants to show the world what true freedom looks like, to disregard all rules or humanity's decency and mold reality into what can be desired. Essence did also say she wanted to rule over the world with Happy and then kill it, but Spirit contaminator said Essence's comment could be from the bad things she is going through mentally and didn't actually mean it when she said those words after I brought it up with Spirit Contaminator.

My guess with Happy's goals is since the world of Roots and Branches is filled with miserable people seemingly stuck and destined to face constant failure and broken dreams with very little happiness or success, especially with the cycle taking everything away at the end, and considering Happy is someone who hates destiny, perhaps he is trying to teach the world they can escape from their miserable "destinies" for something better. However, his way of going about it might not be so "just" though but more "chaotic", but we'll have a better theory about what he wants to accomplish once we learn more about him.
One thing is for certain is that he seems to have a lot of allies, and the fact that we killed Essence means that his allies will probably come after us, especially Anubis.
(Oh Wow, taking account with Root's Cult, Happy's group, and Absolution Prime's followers, we certainly have tons and tons of enemies, don't we? Yikes. It's us against the world)

>>128692
>The main reason I want to continue with the prequel actually has nothing to do with the fog or anything like that at all. Hell I really only want to continue the prequel because of curiosity to how it all began. Nothing more.

It's crazy how both our goals have changed from when we first started to now.

Also, I too would love to see the prequel out of curiousity, it's a very fun story on its own, but we will have to consider at what cost. Honestly it would be cool to check into the past and stop right before we learn how we can stop the fog but that isn't a choice we are given. We only have the two choices: It's either stop the story now, or go all the way.

But I have considered this: even though we might not learn anything about the cycle itself, perhaps we might just learn a different kind of secret from the prequel aside from learning about the fog.

>The way I see it, the only conflict worth stopping are ones that want to keep us in the dimensional cycle.

>Unfortunately this will place us at odd with Absolution, but I think certain members of the cult would be more willing to listen to reason. Because if we are all trapped in this cycle, the conflict of the fog is meaningless.

Agreed. That's pretty much my main goal too, to escape the cycle. The fog is meaningless.
However, I do not think it will be as easy as you think to try to get people who see us as enemies to listen to reason even if our goal isn't to stop the fog (especially since we might be continuing the prequel). Not saying it's impossible, just going to be difficult. Caution, careful thinking, and considerations of consequences will be needed.

>Essentially what I want is to have EVERYONE leave the cycle. Everyone leaves, only one person stays. The one person who this whole cycle was created for, Andrew Goodwill. If we all go, he has to stay.

that is a goal I can totally get behind, but we will have to acknowledge that not everyone can be saved as you say though. I think this battle against Essence hit the nail on that fact on the kind of quest this is. This isn't a quest where everything can end the way we want it to. Instead, I think we will have to settle for what we can manage to accomplish with our end goal of freeing ourselves (and anyone else who is interested) from the cycle. We can only accomplish things with the cards we are dealt with

Okay. I think we have established together what our main goal is now. We are no longer focused on stopping the fog, but instead to free Ana, ourselves, and whomever else is interested from the cycle. Our enemies are now the ones who wants to trap Ana's and our characters' souls in it.

That said, just because we are looking into the prequel does not necessarily mean our goal is to stop the cult or the fog. With that in mind, I'll agree to continue the prequel on account that we might learn something new other than the fog itself even though we won't learn anything about the cycle. But I want us both to acknowledge that even though we are not going to stop the fog, we will still have more enemies target us because of the knowledge we will gain, and as such, things are going to get a whole lot more difficult. Bad things will happen, failure will happen, but we have to make due with what we have.

Overall, if we can both acknowledge the consequences I had mention and as such try our best not to complain when some of the worst events or failure happen to us and instead try to get by with the cards we get dealt with and adapt, I'll agree to continue the prequel. Things will get tougher.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzu82KXhh3E
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No. 128811 ID: 8b660e

>>128806
If he is willing to continue then so am I
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No. 128833 ID: 70be57
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128833

This will be a small preview for the April fools joke, also enjoy the relaxing music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urHsVDsuIZA
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No. 128865 ID: e51896

after speaking with Devoid and speaking with Harbard on the decision. And while I really want to continue strange abnormalities, I think I have to bite the bullet and make the decision to not continue Strange Abnormalities.

Just know that this was a very tough decision for me to make and I didn't take it lightly. I consider this a large sacrifice, but I feel that considering what is going on and what happened, such as Lawrence and the cult being distracted on multiple things (like saving Root from the wolfpack, dealing with Logan and Absolution Prime, Godfrey's trial), and the dangers that will come from continuing strange abnormalities, I think it is probably for the best to take the opportunity to have Ana make progress and finally enter the forest before things escalate instead of having things escalate while Ana sleeps and checks the past. If I remember, Clarence said he has a hidden bunker or bomb shelter in the forest, so I believe that will be our next goal to reach for Ana before shit really starts hitting the fan.

I can only hope this sacrifice of the story won't be for nothing. Harbard and I would love to see strange abnormalities to get a complete story of the roots and branches series, but sadly, I don't think it is worth the risk and there are other opportunities to pursue.
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No. 128867 ID: 278e86

>>128865
I said I would only go forward with it if my co-player was. I don’t like this and I don’t really want an abridged version or one that’s just propaganda. Being honest I hate the idea of sacrificing story for this, I just think the idea of risk vs. reward for this is pretty lame in general. But it is what it is.
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No. 128869 ID: 70be57

>>128867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY04cLDptsM
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No. 128871 ID: 8b660e

>>128869
Oh ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CiHTjLNpVU
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No. 128911 ID: 70be57

I fear that I am going mad with power. Or maybe that already happened and only now I am noticing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqK48MhTGtU
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No. 128912 ID: 8b660e

>>128911
Yeah you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm4bfnCoONY
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No. 128914 ID: 70be57

>>128912

Well in that case...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvQmE0iwWNw
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129032

>be me
>work for the city as a handyman and groundskeeper of a local park.
>get nicknamed “the clipper” by coworkers cuz I’m always stuck with trimming hedges
>I usually don’t mind, it’s peaceful work.
>wake up one morning to see a black fog has rolled through town
>think it’s some kind of urban detoxification or some shit
>get ready for work
>go downstairs of apartment to see a plague doctor
>wtf.jpg
>plague doctor is a lady and is actually really nice
>she tells me that a great epidemic is sweeping across the city and she is trying to save as many people as she can.
>she gives me a mask and says it will keep me safe.
>she’s wearing one too and so are a few other people nearby
>think it’s some kind of weird fashion trend and just go with it
>put on mask and head to work
>almost get mugged by two weirdos in masks like mine
>oh shit!
>use sheers to beat them up and run
>somehow get away
>get to the park see someone without mask sleeping on a bench
>assume it’s some homeless guy and I don’t get paid to deal with them
>spend the day trimming hedges and grooming trees
>out of bushes comes a weird cosplayer
>turns out the cosolayer chick is fucked in the head and knocks me unconscious
>wake up in some cold dark room missing two fingers on right hand and unable to speak
>ohfuckohfuckohfuckohfuck
>cosolayer girl is talking to herself and ties a bomb to my left hand
>it’s a grenade and she pulls the pin
>am holding on to grenade for dear life.
>bitch lies down under my chair and talks to herself about how her life doesn’t matter.
>reaches the end of her internal debate and gets up feeling sorry for herself
>says she won’t untie me though
>”Somebody who is a better person may come along and help you.”
>srslywtf?.gif
>mfw when this crazy cosplayer leaves me tied to the chair holding a live grenade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfsqEO-WQHc
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No. 129033 ID: 70be57

>>129032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVeAEwrL1Ts
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No. 129035 ID: e51896

>>129032
for the maximum reading experience, play this music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjbNoa5GV3s and put all that in a text to speech program, lol

I'm kidding of course.
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No. 129094 ID: 8b660e

The fight with Essence in a nutshell, with me as Arin and my cosolayer as Jon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xrS5NEBKjU
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No. 129118 ID: e51896

>>129094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46NVH5d2WYg
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No. 129119 ID: 70be57

>>129094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W84GVTSFZXU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PVmCUytHPw
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No. 130949 ID: f7ff14

I have a question for all of you participators. Do you think that the Spirit Contaminator will become the next threat big as Essence was or even bigger?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt-RmZ0ztBI
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No. 130970 ID: e51896

Not sure. We have so many enemies that it is hard to gauge who's the biggest threat anymore. But I thought Happy had made it clear he is our next opponent after Essence. I guess the threat of Spirit Contaminator depends a little bit on how Null interacts with her maybe?

btw, I have a question, in the beginning of the discussion thread, there is that picture of the spirit from Strange Abnormalities. But who or what is that bird?
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No. 130979 ID: bfce93

>>130949
Gods I hope not...
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No. 130985 ID: f7ff14

>>130970
>>130979
No, that spirit on the beginning of the discussion quest is just something that was supposed to be the first spirit portrait in the prequel story. But I change it for that other one that showed just the head of the girl.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR2Eva_lROs
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No. 131353 ID: e51896

hey, thanks for coming to the debate. Let us keep this civil. I don't want any pie throwing or tomato throwing or limb throwing at each other, lol.

I think we'll address the issue about Lorence sending Stitch to attack Ana and the blacksmith. While it was a shitty thing for him to do, we'll have to look into the context of the perspective in Lorence's eyes.

Lorence looked like he was in a small panic to see Ana was not only at the shop, but standing next to Logan as well (https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/src/149005187962.jpg). Logan is somebody that Lorence knows works directly for Absolution Prime (which we now know that Absolution Prime is a demon trying to use humanity as his puppets, much like how Andrew Goodwill is seen as an evil demon). Lorence seeing Ana with Logan could have given Lorence potential red flags that Logan was trying to recruit Ana or use Ana in some way by feeding her misinformation about what Absolution Prime is fighting for, corrupting Ana (luckily Logan didn't as he seemed to be working separate from Prime at the time). Lorence also knows that Logan is someone who could also potentially be used as a sacrifice for Prime to become the secret Blind Will member to start a hive-mind in the universe until the next cycle. Him sending Stitch could just be a result of him trying to prevent such an outcome especially if he believes that Absolution Prime has already gotten to Ana through Logan at or before enter the shop, leaving him with the only option to send Stitch.

Lorence couldn't just outright tell Ana right there that it is a bad idea to listen to Logan either. Lorence had no idea how long Ana was with Logan to corrupt her or if Prime was with Logan at the time to potentially hear Lorence's warnings. and warning Ana would be difficult with Root being present as it could raise suspicion about what Lorence's knows in front of Root. Plus, we might not have been keen in believing Lorence especially after Absolution in this cycle perished as we formed a friendship with Absolution and Gaia. Lorence is also trying to juggle everything on his plate already to prevent certain outcomes that could lead to Absolution Prime winning and using humanity as his puppets, or Andrew Goodwill winning and being summoned to destroy all of existence, so Lorence could not have been given the chance to set things straight even if he wanted to. Plus, this is a shop that sells information. If they hear Lorence give out those warnings to Ana, the shop could have taken those information to start rumors.
In other cycles Lorence was in, there could also have been similar situations where Ana was in the shop with Logan and Lorence ignored or warned Ana at the shop which lead to disasters, as Lorence had live the cycles countless times and seen the same tragic outcomes happen all those times.

And as far as Stitch attacking the blacksmith goes, I do remember that after Stitch attacked the blacksmith, Stitch was punished for harming the blacksmith, getting grounded. https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/src/149049592724.jpg
I don't think it was Lorence's intention to have Stitch attack the blacksmith in the first place, just to try to prevent an outcome where Absolution Prime takes total control of the universe even if it was extreme.
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No. 131354 ID: efa420

>>131353
Okay I see where you are coming from on this and yes it makes his actions understandable.

But that doesn’t mean it’s okay or right that he did it. Lorence knows the kind of person stitch is and yet in the heat of a moment of blind panic. Lorence used stitch like a a gun and sent him in, if Stitch was the gun Lorence pulled the trigger. He did so without thinking of the consequences of it. In that moment it was easier to kill Ana off and get rid of her than try and understand her.

This is what has me frustrated at the moment. At what point does trying to understand him become apologizing for him? Because that’s what it feels like you’re trying to do. Try to get him in the best light possible so we can give him AJ but ignoring how impulsive and rigid he is. To someone like Lorence the status quo is god and cannot he moved. His track record thus far, to me, shows he is someone who doesn’t deserve to have that kind of power.
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No. 131364 ID: e51896

You raise good points, what Lorence did wasn't right. Even though he acted in a panic and with impulse in tight situations, and although it may have been impossible at the time to try to understand Ana without raising suspicion or giving away information, and even if he believes the ends justifies the means based off of previous cycles he had experiences, he still has hurt Ana and her friends mentally and physically.

And yet, Lorence's actions makes me think about how Ana and her voices acted in a similar manner with their actions, doing some immoral things while thinking it is the right thing to do in the spur of the moment when it was actually hurting others in some way, or acting in a panicked state and by impulse, such as Ana beating up Clara until she was unrecognizable, Scarred hurting Logan's daughter thinking she was Essence without asking questions first to Essence or her allies, or Fortune sacrificing future Felafaf to get rid of Spirit Parasite without considering her allies wishes. Looking at it that way, Ana and her voices isn't all that different from Lorence. As much as we might want to admit it, we can't deny that there are similarities between Lorence, Ana and the voices, and their actions.

With their similarities in mind, we do know that Ana and the voices at least want to fix their mistakes, or try to gain forgiveness for their actions, but can't seem to receive it like from Rosalia for example. And I'm wondering, does that also means that Lorence also deeps down yearns for redemption for his actions even if he believes the end goal justifies his actions? Perhaps despite his wishes for redemption, he knows it is impossible to gain any sort of forgiveness for his actions because of the terrible atrocities he is forced to do because of his knowledge of different negative outcomes in different cycles prevents him from taking a more peaceful route for a peaceful outcome for humanity or prevent Prime or Andrew from gaining control of the universe.

I can even think of some instances where Lorence was seeking forgiveness for his actions, such as pleading for forgiveness and help from Root when he invaded a woman's house thinking it was his old wife's home and drugging her asleep, or apologizing to Matilda for being rough on her with his accusations against her during her trial. This at least shows that he isn't above seeking forgiveness for his actions, and may still be seeking it even if he knows it is impossible at this point. Maybe that is why he continues to repeat the cycle countless times? to finally succeed in saving humanity and redeem himself for all his atrocities?
Plus, I think I remember that the memory of his wife that he clings to had kept him from going off the deep-end and prevented him from becoming a full-blown monster and cause far worse thing in the quest. Remember that the watch that Lorence wears is a memento of his wife and in a sense could be in a way be a momento to cling on to his humanity. Maybe it is what was preventing him from killing Ana, and he is currently wrestling with himself to go through with it? (perhaps his watch is his very own WWJD bracelet? Maybe not that far, lol. I don't know if he is still wearing that watch or not)

And speaking of his wife, Lorence himself was treated very unfairly by his wife when he was in prison, and thrown under the bus for crimes he didn't commit by her. And yet, when she pleaded to Lorence for forgiveness, he, despite the suffering he was subjected to, had still managed to keep his will to love her strong. He has the will to not only apologize, but to forgive.

We were told many times that Lorence is someone who has never changed, and never will. So if he has never changed, that means he still has the ability to not be above apologizing, and maybe not be above forgiving others based upon his past actions with wanting to apologize to Matilda, and even forgiving his wife for her unforgivable actions.

So I propose this idea before we decide whether to trust Lorence with AJ or not and to see if Lorence hasn't changed meaning he still retains his humanity from when he was imprisoned: what if we try to get Lorence to apologize to Ana? Ana would tell Lorence that although she understands that his actions were forced by knowledge of previous cycles to prevent bad outcomes and that the end justifies the means, he still traumatized her, and for that, she wishes nothing more than to at least hear him apologize to her for sending Stitch to hurt her, and for trying to hurt her friends, as although what he was doing may have been for world peace, he still traumatized her and she wants an apology for that.

If Lorence is too proud to apologize for causing Ana some traumatic experiences that lead her and the voices to do the things they did, then Ana should mention that his wife was strong enough to ask Lorence for forgiveness, and Lorence had the strength to forgive his wife. then mention that Ana is strong enough to forgive Lorence, but ask Lorence is still strong enough to apologize to Ana like his wife apologized to him, because Ana can't forgive Lorence unless she hears and apology from him and means it.

If he still refuses, then maybe Ana should just forgive him anyway because whether he realizes it or not, he needs to hear he is forgiven from somebody somewhere as he probably never heard it from anyone else, and lord knows he needs to hear it to move on with his life doing a thankless job of living different cycles for world peace, just to see his reaction.

Sometimes an apology is something somebody only wants to hear to forgive.

If you agree, let us discuss here first how we can have Ana ask for an apology from Lorence before we post in the Roots and Branches thread. We should choose our words carefully, not too demanding, and not too pitiful.
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No. 131365 ID: 8b660e

>>131364
We can discuss that here. I’m thinking of having scarred leave for a bit to go wander through the building. If this is bunker city then Laura and Dreamwalker would be here. Maybe we can get them get Ana and bust out if here.
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No. 131378 ID: e51896

If it is alright, can we Scarred stay with Ana instead? I apologize but I don't feel very comfortable dragging Laura into this after everything that happened to her. Besides, Wicker Kid also said that Ana is soon going to have to make an important decision and I don't want to disrupt that. And also, I no longer want Ana and the voices to run away from their troubles anymore. I would instead like for them to face them head on, and try to come to some sort of common ground, or maybe even a small truce with Lorence even if in the end Ana and the voices might not be able to see eye to eye with Lorence.

For her argument regarding AJ and Lorence, what Fortune Ana wants to prove to Scarred Ana right now is that Lorence is not a monster, and still has his humanity. to prove that, she wants to show that Lorence still has the will to apologize to Ana for everything he done to her and her friends, and prove that Lorence is still a human with remorse for his actions even if he believes the ends justified the means. I really think he does have guilt bottled up over what he did to Ana as he has shown remorse in the past towards what he did to others such as what he did to the woman at the place that used to be his wife's home, and how he felt guilt for trying to convict Matilda even though she was innocent, even fishing for an apology from her.
I believe if many like the Spirit of Halloween of Wicker Kid have said that Lorence can never change, then that also means he also hasn't changed into a monster who doesn't feel guilt for his actions and is still human yearning for forgiveness even if he is forced to commit atrocities and believes he can only remain unforgivable.

that said, here is what I am planning on Fortune Ana suggesting to Ana:

Ana, show Lorence your missing hand and say "I know what you mean about curators being untrustworthy... but... with that in mind, why do I still deeply miss my curator despite how he kept things secret from me?"

After that, say "I found out too late what was going on around us in this world, and I understand what you did to my friends and me was an act of the ends justifying the means from the knowledge from previous cycles..."

"...But Lorence... with your actions of sending Stitch at me or threatening my friends, you and Root still deeply hurt and traumatized me, even to the point of us getting too scared to think logically and act in impulse trying to defend ourselves, forcing us to make bad decisions and lead us to this point of no return...

"You're one of the many people who broke me the most, Lorence, And even though I am doomed now, and you may see your actions as just, I want to know if you feel any kind remorse for your actions. After everything you did to hurt me, I just want to hear you apologize for what you did to me."

If Lorence thinks he is above an apology, Ana, tell him "look at your watch you stole from that house. it is a memento of your wife that clings you to your humanity and remember your good morals. Your wife was strong enough to apologize to you for her unforgivable actions, and you were strong enough to forgive her. I am strong enough to forgive you, but I first need to know you are strong enough to apologize. Not just to me, but to yourself."


What do you think? If you feel you need to edit anything, I would highly appreciate it. Keep in mind I want to hear an apology from Lorence, but I don't want it to be too demanding, and I don't want it to sound too wishy-washy either. (For example, I'm not sure whether or not to mention Wild Cat in this conversation).
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No. 131379 ID: 8b660e

>>131378
Don’t mention WC. Lorence still had a prejudice towards currators, and besides WC’s ability to hide Ana. He might suspect that she has something planned. Everything else is great.
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No. 131391 ID: e51896

What are your thoughts about what Lorence had to say? What he said was what I suspected about him and his actions and I'm relieved that he is still human to acknowledge that his actions are unforgivable. But despite that, he was still able to apologize to Ana for what he did when she asked for one, showing that he wasn't above apologizing. This shows that he still haves his humanity to know that his actions are wrong even if he is forced to do them in order to prevent something worse from occuring, and I think that is what makes him different from someone like Essence or Happy. While Essence embraced hurting others without remorse, Lorence is aware that while he had no choice but to hurt others in order to prevent the blind will or Andrew from being summoned, he has remorse for his actions with what he needed to do. And he wasn't forceful with people like Anthony with what he requested him to do and even left when Anthony requested him unlike Essence who was forceful. And I think after living so many cycles of not having anybody ask him to apologize, I think the request from Ana to get his apology was what he needed to hear.

I'm wondering if Scarred will be able to have Ana forgive Lorence after hearing what he had to say and hearing his apology, or if she believes he should remain unforgiven by Ana? Lorence himself said that him apologizing won't make any of his actions right for how he made the other versions of Ana suffer, or many others for example, and believes that he has sinned too much to not have a good afterlife. But I think if he is able to at least apologize for his sins like he did to Ana, do you think he can be forgiven, or is he too far gone off the deep end?

When all that is said, I personally no longer want to view Lorence as an enemy.
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No. 131394 ID: 89ee1a

>>131391
Honestly, my gut intuition is telling me not to trust him with AJ. I think he’s taken a step in the right direction. But words are cheap and actions speak louder than words. Scarred may not say she forgives him, because in all honesty she doesn’t and wont ever forgive him for it. But she will concede this one. But my gut is honestly telling me giving him AJ is going to be a mistake.
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No. 131395 ID: 89ee1a

>>131394
And of course we need to discuss what’s going to happen to us now. Whether or not Lorence can be redeemed is definitely up in the air but it won’t mean anything if the rest of the cult wants us dead.
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No. 131401 ID: e51896

Hmm, we're at an impasse of what we believe we should do.

I still deeply believe trying to give AJ over to Lorence is what we need to do no matter how painful it will be to let him go, and this might be the only small window of chance we have to do this if I believe this this will keep AJ alive.

Melkior the incubus said that Prime will eventually find out about AJ since Prime will be able to detect AJ's power as his powers grows in time, thus making Ana a large target for Prime, especially since Ana does not have Wildcat anymore to hide some of AJ's power from Prime. And once Prime senses AJ's powers, AJ and Ana will not be able to be strong enough to defend themselves.
It doesn't really help that Wicker Kid and the Spirit of Halloween already says that Ana is not going to have a good ending and won't live to an old age and I don't want to drag AJ into his death with Ana's fate.

And while Ana can't let AJ escape this world, Lorence however somehow managed to sneak from cycle to cycle without Prime noticing, and since he has all sorts of knowledge and technology, I'm sure he has a way to keep AJ hidden. Plus, seeing that if AJ can gain strength as time passes, it would make a lot of sense for AJ to follow Lorence allowing AJ to grow strong enough to oppose Prime. Lorence did not expect Ana to ask for an apology as none of the other Ana's he spoke with ever did that, perhaps we should to do another unexpected thing to Lorence by revealing AJ to make this story go into an unexpected new direction.

I'm interested to know, what do you think might happen if we reveal and hand over AJ over to Lorence? And how can we protect AJ from Prime and Ana's fate if we do decide to keep him?

(sorry for the late response, I was stuck with work)
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No. 131402 ID: a5d601

>>131401
I see the logic behind it but would Lorence actually do it? Would he be willing to become a target? As for what others say about not having a happy ending? I don’t believe in that. I think there’s always a way but it’s gonna be a bitch to find. Kind of like the “earn your happy ending trope.”

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarnYourHappyEnding

Also this doesn’t answer my earlier question, they have Ana. Now what? Even if Lorence doesn’t want to kill us or have us killed that’s not a guarantee others won’t try while we’re here. If AJ is protected great, but if Ana dies I still count this as a lose condition.
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No. 131403 ID: a5d601

>>131402
Okay so this literally just occurred to me but I want you to think of this. So far this whole universe can be thought of a a repeating cycle, right? In other words it’s a Möbius strip, one without beginning or end but it always repeats itself in some ways.

Okay so we’ve seen that Lorence does have some humanity in him. That much I get, but he also confirmed in his speech that to him, The status quo is god.
https://allthetropes.fandom.com/wiki/Status_Quo_Is_God

Also AJ from what we’ve seen of him can be easily influenced by his host and hosts decisions. In the now dead timeline he even took on a darker form to reflect the changes Ana had made and her darker personality. I know you want to think he could change Lorence but what we’ve seen there’s just not enough evidence to support this. Lorence, whether he likes it or not can ignore his moral compass for what he believes is the best action. Which is why I equate him so closely with Prime because both of them have that sort of “the ends justify the means” sort of attitude. But here’s where I am about to get wild with this theory, if that’s the case then what if giving him to Lorence would be creating exactly the same circumstances to create Prime again as he is now? I know you want AJ to take over as Prime eventually but let me ask you, what if he does? What palpable change is going to happen? Or have you just replaced the old and dying version of Prime with the younger version of himself with the same morals?

And, no offense, wouldn’t that be just the kind of thing Absurdity would do? How ironic would it be for both you and Lorence? His greatest enemy is dead! Prime is defeated! And now AJ is on the throne! And he’s the one who taught him how to think! But ohhhhhh shit... I’ve just created the very thing I spent eons trying to get rid of. And then, let’s go another step further, what if AJ now Prime kills the old Lorence, then sets up a new one in exactly the same way in order to ensure his rebirth and to keep his status quo?

Sorry if I’m going all conspiracy theory here but it’s just something that occurred to me.
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No. 131405 ID: e51896

You raise good points to consider. While I still stand by my decision, I think for now, just to keep the story moving, lets see what Lorence wants to say or do before we decide on AJ.
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No. 131423 ID: efa420

You know... I can’t even bring myself to be happy with the whole “I told you so.” routine...

So, how’re we gonna get out of this one? I suppose if we’re gonna mention AJ by this point it would be now. But I don’t know if that would be a good or a bad thing anymore. It might just further his incentive to kill us. If you want to go that route Scarred might have the key to telling him what he needs to hear to convince him we’re not on Prime’s side.

Alternatively we could just tell him why the reason why Root hasn’t killed us yet. It’s because he’s fucking lonely, and he’s the only other person who can hear voices like Ana can.
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No. 131428 ID: e51896

I actually think I have an idea as to why Root hasn't killed Ana, it all probably has to do with how the voices once tried to save Root from Delilah when he was bound in a wheelchair. If I remember, he seemed to really respect the voices for trying to save his life from Delilah. Not to mention Derrick was also there to try to save Root, and Root even wanted Derrick to take his place as the leader if I remember. Perhaps that moment was when he actually finally found people that cared for his wellbeing when everyone else at the time saw him as a disabled person no one cared for and even mistreated like Delilah.

I'm going off of memory and might need to confirm these. But what are your thoughts, Harbard?
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No. 131429 ID: 8b660e

>>131428
Possibly, and that’s part of it but I think there’s one bigger reason why call me crazy but I think he’s in love with her.
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No. 131623 ID: 38927d

I have an announcement I am not going to be at my home for a couple of days, so I won't be able to update my story. But I will return in Monday so don't worry the story will continue.
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