The only way to save Lorenzo's soul is to flash your boobs.

Does anyone else notice that Lorenzo is getting worse?

Take Santiago with you, I don't think I can trust him with Kim. Its better if Pablo takes care with Kim since they've known each other enough to trust each other.
Plus Santiago's gonna give a bitchfit if you don't bring him along, and Pablo will most likely give you the sad puppyface.

" Pablo, in the vision we first saw you in, there were bloodied up paintings chasing me and you wanted me back in creeping fashion. While I trust you to know what awaits in the dark, I also trust you would know better than to leave Kim and Lorenzo alone here. When we kill Padre, the darkness in Lorenzo will rise, and we can't leave her alone to that. That's up to you... "

" ... And you, Santiago. You're right. You know the Hotel better than any of us. You know how to face the things that go bump in this dark night. That's why I trust you here more than by my side. Just because I station you with the others does not mean you will be without bloodshed - when I slay The Padre, Lorenzo says the last piece of darkness in him will be left, and I doubt Pablo and Kim could take him on should it possess him. That's why I'm counting on you to stay here and help take care of that. And if everything goes well where I am, I'll rejoin you to pay repentant blood in no time at all. But you will be free, Santiago. You just have to play your part here, and then you will get the Hotel back by freeing yourself of this place, and all us in it. "

" The both of you must stay. The Lightbringer before trusted this to me, and me alone. He must know something we don't, something dark and twisted about what may happen should I bring either of you along and leave the other. And when the dark in Lorenzo rises, I doubt one of you will be able to take him on alone, especially with Kim crippled. So I'm trusting the both of you to keep yourselves in check, and keep things in control here. "

" We've come very far together, but in this moment, I have to go alone. You both have to trust me, as I trust the both of you, alright? "

Alone definitely seems to be the consensus. Finishing this how it started. It's like poetry.

Would it be alright to just post a summary of what I've gathered from this story so far, to see if I got it right?

>>633384
If you feel the need to post one do so in the discussion thread

santiago should go with us.
we can help redeem him

Just before Nan leaves, have Pablo ask if he can touch her great ass. When question why, he says in case they don't come back, he can at least go out knowing he touched Nan's fantastic rear end.

>>633497
I first misread that as having Nan ask Pablo to touch her ass.

... If Pablo doesn't ask, can Nan ask him to?

>>633502
Either way works baby. Either way, Nan is getting her ass touched, cause seriously, we need a comedic relief moment right the fuck now.

we are going to fuck this up aren't we

>>633628
Oh, big time.

>>633628
Pretty sure we've done FANTASTIC so far.

>>633628
Have Nan ask this question to Lorenzo. :)
I kid, I kid.

>>633673
Pretty sure he's a little too worn out after 200 or so years to care about something as meaningless (compared to what's happening) as Nan's ass.

>>633708
RIP lorenzo
he never got laid

Ah, decisions, decisions...

As much as I am tempted to pick Santiago for a companion, I think they are both equally too dangerous in this endeavor.

They're both unstable. They have a big personal stake in this. In a very emotional situation they might choose what's right for them personally over what's right for erasing the present nightmare from reality.

Nan, on the other hand, even with all the freaking out at the gravity of the situation, has not been (as far as we know) emotionally scarred to the point of going batshit crazy.

Nan, tell them that having both of them for protection here and now (whenever and wherever that is) might be more important, because nobody can guarantee she'll neutralize Padre in the past before he finds them in the present.

Tell them that if everyone is here for the purpose, this one is yours alone. You were called here to fix things, and that's what you're going to do. On your own.

Pablo has past experience with the flash, and we have forged a bond with him already. Santiago has helped us in the past, but our history with him is convoluted. It would be a greater sign of his trust if he were to stay here with Kim. The team we take to the final fight needs to be a team that can work together. Come on Pablo, we've got a mission with a vision!

I'm STILL voting for comedic relief before we go.

Weaver 2015/04/16(Thu)14:28 No. 634831 ID: 182e75
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Nan announces she's going alone.

Pablo and Santiago need to stay here to watch after Kim and Lorenzo, and be ready for whatever may happen. It's unlikely the Hotel will welcome this coming intrusion on her part.
She trusts them. But they've done enough. Now it's her turn.

Weaver 2015/04/16(Thu)14:33 No. 634833 ID: 182e75
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Pablo is speechless for a moment, but does not seem to agree with Nan's decision.
"If you really think that's what's best, we'll wait here. But I hope you reconsider. I need a chance to prove myself, after everything that's gone wrong. It would be safer with the two of us! Don't leave me behind -- whatever happens to me will happen, but you know there's more at stake here than just you and me!"

Santiago does not like Nan's choice.
"A lovely gesture, really, but you could be dead right now if I hadn't been there to help you end Henry. What if you need help again? All the well-wishing and poetic gestures in the world won't save you if you need cutting down again! Now I'm capable, I know my way around the shadows, and I've still got some blood left in me. Let me fight, too. We can still save this."

>>634833

No one is arguing capabilities

Just it's better to lose one if things go bad than four

Weaver 2015/04/16(Thu)14:37 No. 634837 ID: 182e75
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There's a lot at stake here.
Knowing so little about what may lay ahead, it's hard to choose.

She can stick to her original choice and go alone, or reconsider. Whatever she chooses, the two men have made their last appeal, and say they will follow her plan.

They're out of time. Nan's got to make a final decision.

I vote going it alone. It's quite possible our 'friends' could be turned against us somehow.

Nan, do not hesitate. Do not wave from your decision.

Take Santiago.

If he can't be trusted, what chances do you think the others will stand against him? If he's with Nan at least we have a chance of stopping him if he turns on us.

If he can be trusted, I think he's more capable than anyone else.

Weaver's giving us a second choice for a reason folks.

Take Santiago with you. No matter how strong you might be alone everyone needs someone to watch there back.

You can do this, Nan. Santiago and the others will deal with the Blasted Corpses, you need to deal with the enemy.

Go with santiago.

Take Santiago. Sure, the outsider has to be the one to do the killing, but there's nothing wrong with having backup. There's no point in being unwise just to feel heroic.

Go Alone

Let's not be suicidal. Go with Santiago.

It's also funny how no one is considering Pablo anymore

Why not both? This room is hallowed ground and that should protect Kim and Lorenzo. It's not like either is gonna stand up a chance against the Padre.
Take both, or Pablo if they refuse.

Also, Pablo has shown himself to be quite capable AND reliable. He's also not a darkness creep, so that's a bonus too.

Weaver...you better not fuck with us. Please make sure whatever we choose, Nan can still beat this. Also FINALLY YAY UPDATES. I now vote for go it alone. Pablo seems sure, so does Nan, it's just Santiago who seems...nervous.

Yeah, I'm gonna stick with our original plan. Of course they're not going to like it. They're trying to be all sacrificial and noble. And, really, it's probably stupid. But they don't need to prove themselves.

The difference between then and now is that we wanted, really wanted to believe that Henry was good. Just like we always want to believe that everyone is good, deep down. We've pretty much always hoped for the best in people.
But while the Padre may have been good at one time, this thing that we're fighting isn't, it's not the Padre, and there's not a shred of decency to be found in there. This whole broken situation is a testament to that.
And when push comes to shove Nan has proven that she can fight. She'll bite and scratch and claw and fight dirty. We won't hold back. We won't hesitate this time.

Santy may worry that we need help because of Henry, and maybe he's better at knowing what has to be done and not being tricked. But we kicked his ass in the chapel. Before Henry even showed up to save us, we were kicking Santy's ass. And we're not going to be tricked this time.

So let's go do the same to the thing to the thing that brought us here.

If this attempt fails, they will probably all die anyway so going alone is probably a bad idea and there is really nothing that can be done to help Kim or Lorenzo. Bring Pablo and Santiago.

>>634934
They already expressed concern not to leave Kim without anyone. I don't really think Lorenzo cares though, and as said, he's pretty much immortal so he doesn't really need protection. The main concern is Kim.

Go with both of them.

Still voting for Pablo.

Well, this is an interesting development. We now have a few people electing to take the both of them. Personally, my vote lies with going alone. I believe that Pablo is too focused on proving himself rather than putting an end to this. And Santiago is, well, Santiago; he's a bit of a nutter.

Go forth once more into the dark. It won't be the first time we've gone alone.

Santigao.

Pablo, your time to prove yourself will come. You're much more practical to use for physical challenges, around things that make more sense than what we're about to attempt.

I'd still rather take EVERYONE. Kim and Lorenzo included, but it might not be possible for Lorenzo, but he can handle himself.
I mean, what's stopping us? We should just go full hog, bring out ALL THE GUNS. This isn't poker.

well considering that Santiago DOES know his way around and seems to be capable of "living in the shadows," i'd say he's more reliable. i know Pablo wants to prove himself, but he can do that by protecting Kim, but it seems he wants Nan witness his way of taking action. we might hurt his feelings if we choose Santiago over him, but its better to put survival first over emotions, which can be dealt later. sorry pablo :-(

>>634837
Why not both?

Is it even possible to take them in with you? And if so, why not both? Neither Pablo nor Santiago have the strength to take on the Padre one-on-one, so there's no point in protecting Lorenzo or Kim.
Santiago brings up a great point in how incredibly underwhelming our strength is. This can be easily alleviated with the addition on both these strong, capable men. I don't trust Santiago enough to allow him to be alone with anybody, but he deserves a chance to prove himself.
As for Pablo, if we leave him, he may be killed, or, worse, stuck in the hotel. He's been too helpful for us to suffer any harm coming to him. He's obviously really needs this chance to prove himself (just as much as Santiago), but he's not as adamant about it. As for Kim and Lorenzo, just one helper is not going to aid either of them.

It's best if we take both. IF we are being forced to choose one, I'd suggest Pablo, if only for sentimentality.

>>634837

This is our last shot at saving the world from a chaotic and pagan Elder god.

Let that sink in.

The necessity of our success in this quest is insurmountable by anything we've ever faced. We have come all this way and done all this work, and now we have one shot to destroy this monster before it can even begin it's reign of terror. And now, you want to do it alone?
No. Don't be retarded.
This is Weaver we're talking about. He almost killed off Tom on numerous occasions during Ruby Quest, and if we made bad enough decisions, he would have killed Ruby as well. We were only saved by our own good judgement, and after reading >>634980 I realized something.

Why can't we just go together?
No, seriously, why the fuck can't we take both of the strong, valiant men who want to sacrifice their lives to help us? The distraction they'd provide to The Padre by staying behind would do little to prevent him from completely eviscerating Kim and Lorenzo, so why not take both with us and get it done faster? It saves time, effort, and risks very little that we wouldn't be risking already by going with only one. Besides, if we're doomed to fail, might as well die together.
Let's go in, all of us, and deliver this world from that horrid beast which would intend to destroy it!

"Do not go gentle into that good night;
rage, rage against the dying light."
~Dylan Thomas

Do you want Nan to get raped?
or:
Do you want Kim to get raped?

Face it, wherever Santiago is, Pablo must be there also to prevent him from going psycho-bonkers crazy.
That means, despite the help that we need, we must head it alone.

>>634980
bring everybody. pablo and santiago both. why the fuck not?

>>634989
Actually, how do we know that Pablo won't have an "artistic" relapse and accidentally cause whatever he did to his wife to the entire room?

I already voted for Nan to go alone, so think about this: who's going to defend the room and Lorenzo's Eldritch fragment?

Santiago could lose himself to his darkness adaptations.
Pablo could bring the paintings to life.
Kim could be infected and lose herself.
Lorenzo might be taken over by the fragment.

If they work together, they might be able to support one another, or deal with their issues. Your job is to deal with Padre and end this.

Wow...with all these fucking opinions going around, I feel like Weaver is gonna have to ignore them all and make his own decision for once, and not go off consensus.

If you can't go alone then you'll all have to go together.

>>635004
Dude, don't put the number of the post you're replying to in the subject. Click the number to generate a reply to it.

>>634999
I really don't know where you get the implication that Pablo actually has any power over paintings or drawings. That was a dream, a nightmare.

If he does discover latent art manipulation abilities, however, I'll do a backflip.

>>634983
This post brings up a good point- what can anyone do against the Padre? Given what he is, even if nobody had died and they were all in perfect shape, the Padre would win hands down. I second the notion of bringing both. Consider:

-Both seem sincere in their desire to help, but should one go rogue, the other will be there to help Nan deal with him. Should Nan or Kim be alone with the only traitor, she would likely die, and should both be traitors, we're fucked anyway.
-If one stays behind with Kim and the Padre shows up, they both die. If both go with Nan, the three have better odds of dealing with whatever situation arises quickly to get Kim safe ASAP.
-If Kim dies anyway, then having one of the men with her wouldn't have changed that.

That said, let's not forget that panel 466 was http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/438515.html#448676. IIRC that hasn't been relevant yet, and I doubt that Weaver would have that happen for no reason. I still say we bring both, but perhaps we should proceed cautiously.

Take Santiago with you!!! Help of the other was the thing that brought you this far...

>>635029
>>634999
>>634989
>>634983
>>634980
>>634931
All these seem to point to either take both or neither.

So, Weaver, which will it be?

>>635055
If it counts, I'd prefer taking both.

>>635055
So it's gone from being a choice between Pablo and Santiago to being one of All or Alone?

I'd like to point out that Nan is NOT actually good at fighting. The only fight she won on her own was in a flashback. She will absolutely need help.

If it comes down to it I'd rather try to convince both to come with than bring neither.

>>631961
Hold up a second. Why does Kim need watching over? There's nothing that can be done for her right now. I can see Santiago not wanting her to feel alone, I guess, but Lorenzo can keep her company. He's an okay dude. Does Santiago want them to split up for some reason?

Well fuck it then, I guess. Bring them both, but keep them on a child leash so they don't hurt themselves (or others). I'm pretty sure the Padre can't actually get in here anyway, or at the very least it's going to be difficult as shit for him.

We should give an inspirational little speech saying to let go of thoughts of heroism and revenge, and apologize for nearly allowing such thoughts to drive our previous decision.* Remind them that there is a mission at hand greater than the personal ones of everyone here. Hopefully that'd stabilize them a bit and shake out some of the crazy.
*That decision was mostly out of fear that they both want to go for personal reasons rather than out of necessity. But they don't need to know that.

Well, so much for drama and appropriate final battles.

Fine, fuck it. Bring Santiago.

>>635059
nan continues to not be a dbz character

Have the both of them stay behind, go it alone.

Can we take them both?

I don't think Weaver's gonna be happy with us...

The hotel can EASILY separate anyone you bring from you, it's happened before, Going alone would be less worrying

Take Santiago. Going alone would be pure idiocy.

"Okay, look, there's no time to argue and this isn't just about you or me. Kim can't be left alone with a serious handicap; I need the both of you to decide who should be protecting her, not me. We can't afford to assume the Lightbringer won't try attacking us down here, not when I'm about to stir things up. So either you both keep her safe, or one of you volunteers to keep her safe."

>>635375
Not to mention, if Padre steals back his missing fragment from Lorenzo while Nan is busy storming his base, they lose. Pablo and Santiago need to defend the base or the already nigh-unkillable enemy will get another instant-win condition.

>>635375
>>635378
You seem to think that the Padre is stoppable.
Let's not make that mistake again.

>>634948
Actually, make that a vote for taking both. Why not! Offense is the best defense, and frankly we really don't have much of either.

I still have NO idea why people keep voting for both. If anyone remembers, the characters, and by extension Weaver, pretty much said they didn't want to leave Kim and Lorenzo alone, and by taking both, we do just that. I'm pretty sure doing so is not only a dumb idea, but something Weaver doesn't really want to happen, and didn't plan for.

Santiago. On the off chance he tries something (which I doubt), it'll be way better if Nan has to deal with it, rather than Pablo. Not only that, but he's handier in a fight than Pablo is.

I changed my mind, Lets take Pablo.

We don't regard him as impactful as Santiago,
but have we interacted as much with him compared to Santiago??

The poor madcap's desperate to do something, why deny him?

Well, Looks like Weaver isn't gonna let us go alone. Santiago is incredibly unstable, and I don't trust him not to fuck things up. I'd honestly prefer he hurt Kim or Lorenzo rather than us. Let's go with Pablo.

>>635575
Weaver said, and I quote;

">Why the fuck can't we take both Santiago and Pablo?
You can."

>>635663
Gonna provide a source on that? You can't say such things and not provide a source.
I cannot into sageing properly.

>>635686
What, don't you trust us?
http://boards.4chan.org/mlp/thread/22697412#p22706604

>>635687
Alrighty, that'll do.

>>635575
>the characters, and by extension Weaver
Please don't make this mistake.

Weaver 2015/04/21(Tue)17:50 No. 635713 ID: 182e75
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Nan relents and agrees to take Santiago along.

Pablo does not seem happy with the decision, but nods and vows to honor that difficult choice, and to watch over Kim while they're away.
"Be safe out there. Whatever happens."

>>635713
Aw,come on!

Weaver 2015/04/21(Tue)18:00 No. 635720 ID: 182e75
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Nan holds the lantern aloft, grabs hold of Santiago, and ignites the spark.

Weaver 2015/04/21(Tue)18:01 No. 635721 ID: 182e75
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A great flash of light fills the room, blinding.

Weaver 2015/04/21(Tue)18:03 No. 635722 ID: 182e75
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"It's you, isn't it?

It's time. Don't you hear the bells?"

Weaver 2015/04/21(Tue)18:08 No. 635723 ID: 182e75
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End, Part 8

WE COULD HAVE HAD BOTH.

\(0n0)/

Whoops Geranium 2015/04/21(Tue)21:30 No. 635796 ID: a8fc76

oh, wait... Never mind.

[God as my witness, I did not see his warning before complaining.]

>>635713
5 for Pablo
10 for Santy
12 for Nan
14 for both

>Nan decides to take Santiago
Why though?

CHOO CHOO !

>>635859
>14 for both
Well, tallying up those results per character, that's 14 + 5 = 19 votes for Pablo, and 14 + 10 = 24 for Santiago.
Chapter's over, shouldn't anything further be moved to the discussion thread?

>>635866
Yeah, sorry, I was just a tad butthurt that I didn't get what I wanted.

>>635859
but votes were tallied in two rounds, NOT cumulatively
that's the point of the second check
arguments were also considered

Don't forget, a quest author has the right to use any metric they please when deciding the next part of a quest, up to and including "because I feel like it". If you don't like the suggestions being chosen, make a better case for yours and do not whine about what can't be changed.

I'm pretty happy with our choice. I can't wait for the final chapter. Good job Weaver.

Um... when the next chapter starts, will there be a link from here to there?

>>636464
http://www.tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/636485.html