5 Martian Dollars that there won't be anything up by the date he guesstimated.
Those 11k signatures are going to dick him in his hand's butt.

Curse the sentimental value that turns into monetary value such as autographs

Seems so, unfortunately. A shame to miss such a numerically significant date, but things happen.

>>22783
Especially since he missed it by less than half an hour.

Looks like he back-dated it, though.

Well, that was a long and fulfilling saga.

Seeing as we've just hit the end of an act, who here thinks it's time for a new thread?

>>22784
It was still Sunday somewhere at that time.

http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007343
Caution! Weird Plot Shit approaching!

Oh man, I do hope we'll get to alchemize stuff.

>>22792
lol at you

Hussie's getting all meta-philosophical up in this bitch.

I don't know what he was talking about. because I didn't read it. it was too fucking boring.

I hope MSPA gets back to being awesome soon.

>>22796
Yeah, it's just a dude in a wasteland! I can't ship this!

dude <3< wasteland is my OTP

>>22796
>Finally get to see Caliborn's session
>it's nothing like we've seen before
>laden with references to many of the jokes we've come to know
>Caliborn even shows some level of metaacknowledgement
>mystery abound

>too fucking boring

Get out and don't stop getting out

>>22801
>~3 paragraphs of meta-refferential text
>too boring
>~3 paragraphs

Do you have the attention span of a small dog?

>>22802

>3 paragraphs

Are you honestly so retarded that you think writing more of something banal and unfunny magically makes it interesting?

Seriously you are just confirming everything about the homestuck fandom right here.

Here, I'll spoil it for you; having more of something does not magically make it more interesting.

No matter how much I shit on your table it isn't going to turn into a steak.

>>22803
What

Dude, he was saying that 3 paragraphs isn't enough to be boring!

>>22804

Which is also not true. This update is the very definition of banal, tedious garbage.

Being over quickly doesn't prevent something from being boring.

Get standards.

>>22803
>>22805
You, sir, are a gormless churl.

That's dumb. It wasn't even an argument, and it was over already.

Regardless: updates:

Today we get at least a bit of exposition of the last act, even though it's of the act before the last act, but it's better than nothing I guess. Calling Calliope's name won't work now? Which means the hilarious plan of saying it and having big bad adult Lord English turn into a sweet thing on the dime won't happen.

How disappointing.

>>22808
Fair enough. It's sometimes hard to tell how over arguments are. I restored the posts and I'll leave them in this thread. But try to remain kinda civil, ok?

>>22809
Oh, neat. And oh dear, it was getting kind of bad.
Oh well. We never spoke of it again and it was good.

first off, I would like to point to the fact that there has not been a single update that didn't reference a jillion things in years. it's nothing new. in fact, it's old.

Caliborn's situation may be unusual and interesting, sure, but what I'm saying is that said situation has been presented in a most unentertaining manner.

well, it's either that or the fact that the sheer magnificence of the previous updates raised the bar by a fuckton.

I thought the reference to "It's hard and no one understands" was a touch clever this time around, but I guess that's just me and in reality the whole thing was boring as fuck?

>>22808
Have I got a conspiracy for you. Lord English IS Calliope.

http://cincosechzehn.tumblr.com/post/35878505958

>>22816
Yeah, most of these points are fairly good ways of explaining some of the inconsistencies between Caliborn and Lord English.
Other points to consider are:
-Calliope is the one of the pair that wears a coat, Lord English is heavily associated with his Cairo Overcoat, which I feel would be a certain item that Caliborn would associate with his sister.
-Lord English's presence in paradox space, mainly the dead and a select few classes can act outside of dream bubbles in there. Calliope has been described as being killed.
-Calliope's self-insertion showing distress at the events of the mini-strife flash, as the large number of people gathered there would allow Meena to gather an army which Vriska could use as bait.
-Caliborn's strange self-monologuing, in particular the fact that he feels that his thoughts are being dictated to him, and his feeling of semi-lucidness, to be fair I don't think Calliope is posing as Caliborn, but it is obvious that she is influencing his thought patterns in some way. Lord English required a host to possess and it's possible that a muse could do this to other individuals associated with themselves.

...I really don't think the whole Limebloods being able to change their blood colour is a thing, nor do I think Calliope has that ability either though. Kind of strikes me as a cheap way to explain the posing theory and tie Karkat's persecution in with the apparent threat of limebloods.

>>22816
>Lord English’s MO is complete and utter destruction of space with no plan and no strategy. First off, Caliborn’s domain isn’t Space - but Calliope’s is. Secondly, he is far too obsessed with strategy and rules to do anything so haphazardly.

What? Come on, why would Calliope destroy her own domain? Rather, it would make sense for Caliborn to do so, to wreck up everything his sister owns, so to speak.

>>22816
its been outright stated the LE is Caliborn, so still trying to figure out his identety is kinda redundant.
plus the reasone he's wercking space and junk is beacuse LE is a grifer, he didnt have any fun in his session, so is determined that no one else will.
alternitavley he's a sore winner, who dosent want anyone else to win as it will lessen his achivment.

>>22816
Counterpoints:
1: Caliborn hates Calliope so it makes sense that he would want to destroy anything related to her, IE Space. Plus, a Muse of Space doesn't destroy space, jeez. Secondly, he likes rules but destroying stuff isn't against any rules. He isn't actually very good at strategy since he lost to Calliope so much. He only one ONE time and that was due to a stupid trick.
2: Who the fuck knows how Gamzee got that laptop, or how Calliope got it? It's probably some crazy time shit, like how Ahab's Crosshairs keeps showing up everywhere. Besides, Calliope NEVER EVEN USED IT. The Prospit connection is tenuous at best since we don't even know the significance of being a Prospit dreamer vs a Derse dreamer. The only difference seems to be that Prospit dreamers can see Skaia and thus get visions of the future. "Calliope" being in the name of Gamzee's theme is coincidence, as a calliope is part of you know, a circus?
3: Calliope mentioning topspin and thus "english" means nothing, since she didn't connect it with billiards. If anything, it was a red herring. We as yet have no indication at all where the pool theme or the name Lord English came from. It's even possible that Caliborn took that name because of Jake's last name! Time loop. Caliborn abandoning "games with idiots" actually fits with Lord English, since he doesn't even play games. He just up and destroys shit. He delegates the game playing to his servants like Doc Scratch.
4: Calliope lying actually makes her less likely to be Lord English, since, for example, Doc Scratch doesn't lie. I'm not sure she ever really did directly lie, though. She compared herself to a troll, but did she say she was a troll?
5: Now this is just silly. Caliborn requested Dirk to draw a lot of 'smut' of Roxy and Jane. That's plenty of evidence that he's fond of ladies.
6: Calliope was writing over the code in the ~ATH book. I dunno about you guys but I wouldn't draw all over a textbook for a programming language that I was using, even after learning it. Who knows where the code on the server came from? Maybe Caliborn had one of the pre-scratch loyalist Trolls write it for him.
7: The Green Sun has nothing to do with Space players. It's the source of First Guardian powers, that's it. It being gold is most likely just due to his pimp theme.
8: He overkilled Hussie. Him having a rifle/wand specibus would compliment Calliope's pistol/wand specibus, so that's a non-issue as well.
9: This is just stupid. It's not a Death Note reference. Also, no fan wants to destroy an author's work to make it their own, jeez.
10: In Lord of the Rings, Gandalf essentially gave Frodo the ring. It's far easier to equate Calliope to a good person through that parallel. Besides, the rings in Homestuck aren't evil. They are just tools.
11: Uh? I don't see how trickster mode is relevant. Also, her chat symbol is associated with healing and space, not tricksters.
12: The switched roles in the book make sense if you take into account that it was written to anger the Batterwitch. Calliope expressed reluctance to kill her brother, and was turning to it out of desperation, not hate. The rainbow drinkers don't change their appearance- they just glow due to a biological trick, and Jade transformed via God Tier/sprite prototyping shenanigans. A Muse of Space's powers would not by any stretch of the imagination include disguises, and besides, there are so many specific details tying Lord English to Caliborn's appearance that it's just beyond ridiculous to say that Calliope is posing as him. Saying that Caliborn is a good guy because his outfit references Doctor Who is also ridiculous.

>>22817
A: Under the coat, Lord English has suspenders, which is part of Caliborn's theme. Also the cairo overcoat contrasts rather heavily with Calliope's tailcoat. It doesn't fit her theme at all.
B: It's easy to travel to the Furthest Ring, but difficult to navigate in it. The dead CANNOT leave the dream bubbles, and Lord English definitely is doing that.
C: Calliope was trying to get them to stop fighting, which would be good for them working together and succeeding in their respective plans. It would be better for Lord English if one of them died, so them fighting is a good thing for Lord English!
D: It's rather clearly been demonstrated that Hussie is the narrator most of the time. Caliborn being aware of the narration is lampshading the thought insertion for humorous purposes. If Calliope as a Muse of Space could influence characters, Lord English's timeline manipulation would be much more difficult, would it not?


Anyway this is all absurd conspiracy theorist bullshit. Lord English has TIME POWERS, not space powers. Caliborn is Lord English because Caliborn is the Lord of Time.

>>22820
Also if caliborn became aware of hussie inerting thoughts into his head, it may explaine why he stopped of to kill him.

>>22816

Calliope is either Skaia or Skaia is her sprite, so no.

>>22823
.......What?..

>>22824
Skaia is a passive font of creativity. A Muse. It's also responsible for housing the Battlefield, which is the birthplace of new universes. Space. A Muse of Space.

>>22825

It also only has one direct power, that being opening portals to send things to other places.

It is also the source of universes, which Lord English consumes (and from what we've seen, apparently by means of his sprite, a red and black sphere)

And everything related to the cherubs is framed by the game between the two.

Also, even more than being a passive font, Skaia is the ULTIMATE passive font. It is a source of unlimited creative potential, it just can't do anything with it itself.

The Muse is the ultimate support class.

>>22826
Portals to other places and times, note.

Alright Elephant Guy, tell me you didn't enjoy THAT update.

>>22832

It's kind of just another update where nothing happens, unless they decide to establish after the update that caliborn can bypass god tier immunity just by shooting things (because exceptions).

The music is pleasant though.

>>22833
except gamzee isnt god tier, those wings are fake, you can see the harness

>>22834
I don't see one. Also of note, he didn't have wings when he met Jane. The wings are NEW. I think he actually is god tier now.

>>22835
The wings are strap-ons

>>22835
i think the real questions we should be asking are how the fuck did gamzee get into caliborns seesion, and was getting machine gunned to death part of the plan?

>>22837

He already got into Jane's before the meteor arrived, this is nothing new.

I don't like to make any assumptions of whether Gamzee really is god tier or if he isn't. That could be just a suit and strap-on wings, or they could be real: there's no real genuine proof to either direction, so I'd rather wait until we see for sure.

>>22841
The visible straps when his wings came off while being shot are a pretty good sign that the wings were strapped on.

>>22842
Oh, I see the straps now.

Hmm. Seems kinda odd that he'd go through all that trouble to get the outfit just to get shot and die.

>>22832

I enjoyed the shit out of that update. in fact, Caliborn is officially my fucking hero.

>>22843
Gamzee and his ancestor have been working towards serving lord english, they probably should have stopped and thought for a moment wether he'd want to be served..
looks like a big no on that front.

>>22845
I'm not so sure Gamzee is interested in serving LE. Personally I think he's been manipulating his ancestor. It's just the impression I got from how terse he was when he got the codpiece.

Caliborn pls

>>22844
Haha
>>22847
Yeah pretty much this. Though it remains to be seen why Gamzee even wanted to Godtier-dress up, unless it can give you immortality that way (which is unlikely, given that godtiers can wear normal clothes and still be godtier) and with this update, it's unlikely we'll see an answer.

Maybe.

In retrospect, if he got the codpiece from a dreambubble, it's probable he got the rest of the outfit the same way. Maybe all Godtier troll wings are clipons.

But IDK I don't think Hussie would make a point of showing they aren't connected if we weren't supposed to draw the conclusion that Gamzee's just a big fake.
I GUESS I'LL WAIT AND SEE

hmmm... gamzee could be functionaly immortal in the same way pre-god dave was, ie hed go back in time creating doubles of himself who would go do dangerus stuff, while he himself was fine..

>>22853
>>22851
Of note, in a previous conversation with Doc Scratch, another servant of LE, Gamzee appeared to be plotting with or following orders from Scratch. When Gamzee asks what they are, Scratch replies:
S u c k e r s

>>22853
Yeah, I thought of that too. This Gamzee could be a doomed clone, like how Dave found his own corpse.

Well. Looks like Caliborn found the site.

>>22867
Maybe this is why he exists in multiple sessions at once and is so ripped/ over powered... he's literaly a self insertion fan charecter..

>>22868
This being Hussie, I'm actually going to write that down as plausible.

either way, he's the most important character.

oh dear god he's about to slaughter us now

goddammit Hussie we get it you like being meta and you like to cross the line twice when it comes to crossing the line twice stop it you are creeping me out

Speaking of Hussie, having an actual god-tier dressing up in a fake god-tier outfit seems like the sort of thing he'd do.

of course we could have just given gamzee Waaaaaaaay to much credit in the scheming department.

Wow, way to make us sympathize with the BBEG in like two lines.

Hussmaster does it again.

I don't sympathize with him, I look down on him. He's an evil little fuck who is also a fucking idiot. He doesn't deserve the power he has. He only beat his sister in that 'game' because he was more willing to resort to murder than she was. He only won because he was an evil fuck.

>>22876
Yeah, but it's because he's an idiot, and it's hard being an idiot. It's hard and nobody understands.

Also, I think you missed the moral of the whole troll bloodbath thing.

>>22889
I don't know what moral you're talking about and what bloodbath either.

Also does anyone remember what happened to Gamzee's dream self?

>>22891
Presumably he was killed off by Jack's destroying of Prospit/Derse. We didn't see all the Troll dreamselves die, but it was stated and/or implied that they are all dead and that everyone who is alive (that is, around the time of the trolls chatting to the kids) is either in their body with a dead dreamself, or a dreamself with a dead body. Only Vriska fits that latter category, except for maybe Gamzee because we just don't know.

>>22891
>>22892
It starts to look to me that perhaps Gamzee did go to God Tier after all, merging with his dreamself before Jack had the time to murder it.

After all, if his dreamself had died, then there would be one Gamzee in the afterlife, and there is none.

>>22893
So either his dreamself came with them and nobody knows, or he's a God Tier. The latter seams more likely, judging by the lack of visible bullet holes in his torso at the immediate present.

As for how Gamzee got to the session, I imagine it's similar to how Roxy's dreamself dreamfloated out of Derse and into the void, then eventually a dreambubble. That would, maybe, mean Gamzee could access a session (such as the Cherubs') the same way.

I actually pretty sure that in the Homestuck universe, clowns just don't die like Hussie(?) says. Beside the Insane Clown Posse Administration, those got killed by BroDave.

With the whole, clowns somehow don't die "for reasons that basically don't make any sense." thing, it seems most likely that this is just Gamzee's dreamself, who simply managed to not get killed, just like regular Gamzee, and all the Gamzees from every doomed timeline.

Going God Tier would be a perfectly good reason for him to not be dying.

>>22915
Wich is why he probably isnt god tier, as that would make sence

>>22912
Clearly they were not true clowns.

So if everything from a doomed timeline is killed, but clowns aren't killed ever, even in a doomed timeline, that means eventually doomed timelines become empty wastelands of nothing but clown.

>Skaia doesn't provide very good lighting when it's all clouded over like that.
>Just bump up the brightness on the display.
That is not how display brightness works.

>>22925
.....My god...its full of clowns..

Okay, I'm tired of that music too now.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007414
i think this ship is sinking...

>>22945
it's already at the bottom of the Marianas Trench

I didn't think those two would be just this bad at relationship stuff. They're both being really shitty about it.

Okay Jake's ignorance went from being funny to kinda annoying.

Then back to funny for a brief moment.

Elephant Guy 2012/12/02(Sun)22:33 No. 22956 ID: 8e0f9d
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seriously, he's so terrible I actually feel empathetic rage for a fictional character.

also: this panel is great and Hussie should feel great.

This just in, just being associated with the aspect Hope makes you terrible, no exceptions.

>>22957
Well, maybe we're supposed to hope he grows as a character and becomes not-horrible.

Is it just me, or are all Prospit kids horrible stupid derps that never get to do anything decent and are basically just there to do what they're told and acting retarded, while Derse kids are the cool ones that get to do all the awesome shit and actually advance the plot and save the day?

This is pretty awful.

>>22960

dude, the most important character of the story is Prospit.

>>22961
I said kids, not trolls. If trolls counted down to this rule as well, then it'd be infinitely worse.

>>22963

...I'm not really ready to get into an argument over whether John and Jade were useful or not- the thoughts of it alone scare me shitless.

Jade was super useful. John was too once he got his god tier.

...oh god I just realized that dead dreamselves go into the furthest ring just like timeline clones, as evidenced by Jade's initial self-prototyping resulting in the sprite weeping over being separated from her friends out in the dream bubble. Gamzee's dream self is still floating around out in the ruins of the troll session, chopped in half or stabbed or something. Unless he simply evaded Jack somehow? We never saw what happened to his dream self. Maybe there are two Gamzees wandering around doing shenanigans.

Also feels like Hussie is deliberately fucking with us with this whole shipping deal. Not just how absolutely every romance, or potential for such, seen in previous acts ended with one or both side killed horribly, but now we have Jade and Davesprite breaking up, Karkat and Terezi being on the rocks, and as the latest development, Jake and Dirk about to break up with Jane's feelings to the former apparently waned away.

Makes me feel a little sad for Rose and Kanaya, who are probably going to be next.

>>22977
Don't forget that deadJohn and Vriska.
But GodJohn seems to be the only one immune to everyone fake charms and bad relationships. Kinda just mocks them or jokes about them. He is the pure one.
He is the Heysus.

Can't wait for Araquiussprite. Should be a hoot.

>>22989
Don't you mean Dirquiusssprite?
Gamzee doesn't have Aradia's body, all he had was Vriska's, Tavros', Sollux's, Eridan's, Nepeta, Equiss' and Feferi's bodies.
I believe there's been a theory that dirk's smart sunglasses are going to go into his sprite.

>>23001

Aradiabot parts.

>>23001
Or, you know, Eridan's legs. He was chopped in half, you remember.

EquidanSprite

Is the site down again?

>>23008
Yes. This time it's just his hosting service being completely fucking stupid.

>>23006

oh dear god that would be worse than the worst.

Caliborn is literally the worst person ever.

Caliborn's conversation with Jane is the first time the comic has been entertaining in a long while.

It's like Hussie finally remembered how to right dialogue with a cadence to it.

hold on a moment, this is probably a dumb question but have we ever actually seen gamzee's dreamself?, like, ever?

>>23020
We've never seen his dreamself I think and for sure haven't seen a dead version of him. Even during that massive sprite battle the only version of him we see is the one we've always seen

>>23022
i was wondering about that myself actually, weve only ever seen one of him..
no dead dream selfs, no dead alternate timeline versions...
is that why he is the most important character? timeline with him in them are automatically alphas?
now that i think about it i dont recall him bieng mentioned in any of the alternate timeline visions/memories...

Looks like Caliborn is a big fat liar, unlike his servants.

>>23023
We've seen his handiwork in a doomed timeline, from which Doc Scratch got his code.

 

I am in love with this hat chat log update
I want to set up candles and play sensual funky music for it.

Derse is the best kind of insane.

I wonder who the pipe guy is.

>>23028
That's Dad.

so did anyone actually read all that

Yes, I imagine people do read things that are entertaining.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007482

.....oh god no...

>>23041
Oh god no what? Nothing there is particularly surprising.

>>23042
i thought she was going through the whole dead memories thing, but it looks like i jumped the gun a bit -,-

>>23043

She probably is.

It's not like it is a surprise that Roxy Died. Did you already forget when DD did the Red Miles?

>>23044
*Smacks forehead* i totaly forgot that each body/form/version gets thier own afterlife...

holy frankenfuck the twins look creepy.

Ah. I knew there had to be a parallel somewhere to the chess game where the Queen looked like a King and vice versa.

Now I see what it is.

There's no way the alternate Calliope isn't consumed with hatred and spite, directed towards the paradox space in general and this main Calliope in particular. Why the fuck did SHE get killed by the universe itself and kicked back here when she did nothing wrong, and fared infinitely better in the game than her alternate self did?

That'd make anyone mad.

Lord English is alternate Calliope, turns out the reveal was that the one where Caliborn takes over was the real doomed timeline.
Here's the thing, Lord English is a villain that presents against Homestuck's main theme, growing up. Alternate Calliope also fits this description along with Caliborn.
There also might even be a timeline where Caliborn and Calliope actually got along, and that's probably the real secret weapon and this altcalli is a red herring or trap of epic proportions.

>>23057
yur argumentshavemerit, but calliope always struck me as the more mature of the two and morre inclined to "grow up" so to speak.

im wondering if the queen/king thing is a reference to the actual gender of lord english? it may explaine his rampant mysoginy

>>23059
Your* arrguments have merit* god damn it im unlearning enlish!

altcalli could also be the force behind Lord English, if one refers to that log a few months back when they were discussing how villains usually work, with a bad guy behind the bad guy, and how the discussers of that log assumed LE was the top dog, but were curious if he wasn't, and just decided he was anyway arbitrarily because they were tired of this shit.
I doubt altcalli has a bad guy behind the bad guy behind here, but who the fuck knows. It's probably Hussie if there is one. But this time, it probably circles between bad buy behind the bad guy, creating a Mobius Double Reacharound of bad guy behind the bad guy.

>>23056
>>23057
Calliope isn't LE because LE has red dots on his face, amongst other less concrete and obvious evidence. It is definitely, 100% Caliborn.

>>23062

it could be, like, both at the same time.

>>23063
No. That's stupid.

>>23064
That's just what Hussie wants you to think. All it takes is a little make-up and it's the most perfect frame-job.

maybe alt-calli is doc scratch.
after all, caliborn took over after calliope died, with alterations to the body during the switch over.. maybe those get more pronounced with adulthood..

>>23066
No, we already know exactly how Doc Scratch was created. We SAW it.

>>23068
the thing I'm most confused about is how exactly Doc Scratch works and why. Why is he the body of Lord english? How did the ritual get made in the first place to make Doc Scratch Lord English? Why are Lord English and the Green Sun related at all? Who is the true architect of all these cosmic schemes and meanings if it doesn't happen to be Hussie?

>>23070

Why are you operating under the assumption that anything that happens in homestuck has a reasonable reason for doing so?

The Green Sun is most likely Calliope's juju that she had in the box.

Doc Scratch worked the way he did because ~ATH code shenanigans combined with time shenanigans combined with genetic code shenanigans.

Holy fiddlesticking shit.

I believe we've just witnessed something majestic.

Elephant Guy 2012/12/31(Mon)05:18 No. 23360 ID: 027156
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I feel disgusted. also, I'm terrified. and somehow I'm laughing my ass off.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007576

The weird plot shit reaches dangerous levels..

How much you want to bet Jake (or the good guys in general) ends up combining the two Jujus and uses it to destroy Lord English?

>>23374

Lord English's Juju is the little red ball the rabbit is dancing on.

Calliope's is a blue ball.

They were combined together to create the green sun, because they also represent the Red and Green universes that were the trollverse/kidverse.

>>23375
Calliopes JuJU is green and glowy.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007016

is it just me or dose that ball look like the tadpole of the genesis frog?

>>23375
When they combine together they make a white ball. A magic cue ball.

what

HOLY CRAP! Thats why calliope drew them covered in sweets!
Not even gamzee knows what the fuck just happened!
TO THE FORUMS!!!

This is fucking dumb.

so trickster mode is now canon, as normal this only creates more questions...

>>23404
Possibly only as canon as Hero mode.

if anything its good to see jane smiling agin

way to mix silly with creepy, Hussie.

Jane. Jane stahp.

This is the most terrifying thing Hussie has ever created.

I don't think we can just ignore the fact that Jane just annihilated beasts that the entire group had trouble fighting in one hit but also changed the ecosystem of HALF THE BLOODY PLANET.
All in one move!
That is some powerful juju

Bob 2013/01/10(Thu)10:59 No. 23415 ID: a68e3e
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>>23414
also each juju had a symbol in it

it seems trickster mode supercharges thier class powers, as she's the maid of life and she just resorected half the damn planet just by standing on it..

at the price of only getting useless piece of shit grist she can get by alchemising a few more suckers.

...oh god there can be more suckers WHAT IF EVERYONE GOES TRICKSTER MODE

>>23420
No there can't. There is only ever one juju of each type.

Also I don't believe that grist is useless. I remember it being needed for some special items.

>>23421
Oh, okay, it was needed for the Warhammer of Zillyhoo.

Bob 2013/01/10(Thu)20:15 No. 23423 ID: 78c6ea
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>>23415

Each symbol corresponding to one worm on the Caduceus.

>>23423

well, no. not at all.

It's an ouroboros reference.

yeah both heads may be shown on top when separate but when they combine one flips over and they bite tails.

>ACT 6 ACT 5 ACT 2
We have surpassed silly and are entering the realm of the just plain confusing.

>>23426
maybe act 6 is going through all the acts of homestuck (since act 5 had two acts).

he's made me partake in the silliness and now I feel dirty.

This is still incredibly dumb.

Try clicking the top bar with the scrolling candy.

So... jane created the squidllies?... and turned the winged cherubs into winged cals?... i dont even.. what.. WHAT.

>>23433
I refuse to believe that anything within that particular update was meant to make any sense or correlate with anything in the canon of the comic.

It's like the previous zilly-related flashes.

>>23425

That's ridiculous. The sticks wouldn't even face the same way if you flipped it like that.

>>23435

the suckers spiral together, they don't overlay.

Bob 2013/01/11(Fri)15:39 No. 23437 ID: 78c6ea
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Whatever they do is lost in the animated gif. They are biting each other's tails though.

Bob 2013/01/11(Fri)15:40 No. 23438 ID: 78c6ea
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Wait... that symbol...

ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu

itsw the uroburos snake, the symbol of infinity.

>>23441

I thought the Ouroboros was just one snake eating its own tail.

>>23442
that's because that's what an ouroboros is.

well, a snake or a dragon

>>23438
Nice catch! I figured they were overlaid like that but didn't realize the reference.

It's worth noting that the symbolism involved here (two snakes biting eachothers tails and entwined in an infinity knot) may mainly be noting that it's a juju resulting from the combination of two jujus. Every juju has a convoluted progression through paradox space, and so two jujus combined would result in a really weird history for that item. That it ALSO has ties to a weird existential novel/movie and a memory-stealing amulet of ultimate power is probably not related to Homestuck. Unless we find that the zilly sucker has a terrible cost in exchange for its power... okay, that's not terribly unlikely.

I suspect the suckers in particular are self-propogating. I'll call it now that the spiral sucker is split later on and the resulting green and red suckers are warped over somewhere/when else to come into possession of the cherub twins. It's an infinite loop.

Hussie trolling the Tumblr fanbase again, I see.

Bob 2013/01/12(Sat)06:05 No. 23450 ID: 1d5849
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Delicious hate.

what in the world is a POC?

>>23453

'person of color'

the best part is that hussie has been saying 'they don't have a canon skin color it isn't important' forever but the tumblr crowd KEPT MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT. So he gave a character a canon skin color. And now they're angry, and it's hilarious.

>>23454

agreed. everybody who doesn't have Morgan Freeman's outlook on racism is at least one outlook short of being an awesome person.

Bob 2013/01/12(Sat)11:21 No. 23456 ID: a68e3e
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>>23438
>>23437
Noticed this while watching a retsupurae vid.
It's everywhere.

>>23450
I hope you didn't expect anything less from the homestuck fanbase.

I'd just assumed it was a joke about their being a Pantone name for every fucking indistinguishable-without-the-aid-of-a-colourimiter shade possible.

>>23454
Oh, it gets even better: they STILL don't actually have a canon skin color.

It's just the TRICKSTER MODE that's canonically caucasian, and outside of it they can still be anything.

How to make sure Homestuck doesn't trigger anyone, no one has white privilege to even check. Now no one gets offended.
Dirk, Dave, Rose and Roxy are all blonds african americans
John is also black.
Jake is latin
Jade is Asian
Jane is all of them except white.

>>23463
More like, How to make sure Homestuck doesn't trigger anyone:
The comic is replaced with a series of completely politically correct POC-approved blue rectangles.
Readership plummets.
The site is taken down.

Anyone that concerns themselves with "triggers" is just fucking clueless as to how society actually works.

Also apparently Trickster Mode spreads like a virus. This is bad. If everyone becomes a super-powered annoyingly silly grinning shithead, there will be no meaningful conflict and the comic becomes boring as shit.

>>23470
Depends on how long it lasts, it could stop at any moment.

for some reason calling someone a Person of Colour strikes me as racist, it like your saying "he's black, but dont worry hes a person too!"

hmmm jakes shirt went from LE's skull to lil cal, and in the traveling part of janes trickster mode when she was flying through....were ever that was, activating the cherubs trick mode made them into lil cals. intresting.

>>23471
It's a way to talk about non-white people as a whole, without making it sound like they're missing something.

Well, isn't that just peachy.

TIME FOR A MURDER-SUICIDE.

what strikes me about this is that they dont actually seem happy, its like theve goen full stepford smiler over here.
IM SO HAPPY! HA! HA! HA! HA! LISTEN TO ME LAUGH WITH HAPPINES!

its like candyland mets dawn of the dead...

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/trickster.php?s=6&p=007642

The only sensible reaction

>>23499
I agree wholeheartedly.

I hope to god that Dirk ends this somehow.

Alternatively maybe they all go off and kill themselves to ascend to god tier and that ends it. That would be okay too.

>>23499

eh... needs a pipe.

>>23506
Dirk will be infected. This is a virtual certainty. I am interested in how they're going to get out of this one, though.

>>23506
As much as I am afraid of them all going Trickster, I'd rather it happened to Dirk as well than he was the one to stop it. Because I'm starting to despise how he's always the only one to get shit done.

Seriously, let someone else save the day for a change.

>>23510
I agree, kinda, but at the same time, the Prince of Heart destroying trickster mode makes sense.

...in hindsight I should've figured it out earlier.

Trickster Mode is just letting the Muse of Space take over. They're acting out Calliope's fanfic.

I hope they all enter Trickster mode, and don't save shit. Sometime later, the original kids arrive. Lord English is dead. Calliope is double dead. The horrorterrors are squiddles. And the scratch kids are the FINAL BOSS

Does everyone realize that if everyone goes Trickster mode and no one comes to stop them we're probably going to get at least attempts at disgusting teen pregnancy right?
They're talking about it constantly and it's freaking me out.
All the terrible fan porn in the world isn't half as bad as canon trickster date-rape impregnation.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sweetbroandhellajeff/

...welp.

Can we have a quadruple murder-suicide now?

The new calendars are out, and im kinda jealous of rose..
http://www.whatpumpkin.com/finery/prod_images/calendar.jpg

Also, yet more ethnicity for idiots to flip thier shit over.
http://www.whatpumpkin.com/finery/prod_images/cover.jpg

Have to say, chinese jane and black jade just seem to really do it for me..
probably shouldnt have shared that information..

it's not creepy if they qualify under the age/2 + 7 rule
otherwise yeah you shouldn't have

>>23524
I want to say Hussie wouldn't do something like that but I just can't bring myself to say that.

Oh thank fuck! dirk, by actually confronting his emotions and realizing the problems, is immune to this shit.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/trickster.php?s=6&p=007659
shame his wardrobe isnt..

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/trickster.php?s=6&p=007660

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plz-bhcHryc

I APOLOGIZE FOR NOTHING!

Bob 2013/01/24(Thu)21:39 No. 23564 ID: 2eac65
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This is incredibly zilly.

I don't ever recall being thankful for an author pulling an "it was all just a dream".

also, fuck you Hussie.

>>23568
If you notice, it's not 'just a dream'. Jane's inside Prospit now. Shit happened on those drugs.

>>23575
Yeah, she went reverse grimdark.

Like... sillybright or something.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/trickster.php?s=6&p=007677

Welp i know what will be haunting my sleep tonight!

Okay, cool, there's two timelines. We've avoided seeing teen pregnancy!
But then again, that timeline will probably continue and be filled with babies. But whatever, we don't have to see it!

>>23580
No, it's one timeline. There was no split.

Bob 2013/01/26(Sat)21:17 No. 23584 ID: 78c6ea
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>>23575

> It's not just a dream. Jane's inside Prospit now.

>> not a dream
>> inside Prospit

>>23584
You realize dreaming never actually puts you in a dream during these games, always switches your consciousness with your dream self or with a phantom image in the Furthest Ring?

No, she's not fucking dreaming. She only has one body right now ANYWAY.

There was marriage and sex, and she's now pregnant.

so qhat would happen if you were sent into the game
and all you had on-hand to prototype the kernelsprite with was your massive collection of horse dildos

Bob 2013/01/27(Sun)21:09 No. 23599 ID: 78c6ea
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>>23585

You're not thinking ironically enough. Jane only has her dream self left. Thus she is always dreaming, and it is always just a dream.

>>23599
No, see, that's just stupid and makes no sense.

>>23599
So what about when she actually falls asleep and goes to a dream bubble? Double-dreaming?

Bob 2013/01/28(Mon)15:23 No. 23605 ID: 78c6ea
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>>23601

I think you can dream inside dream bubbles too, but I can't cite the exact page this happens or if I'm remembering wrong.

>>23606
I don't believe that is the case.

You only dream once. YODO

>>23601

didn't trolls dream of the horrorterrors when Noir killed all their dreamselves way back on the meteor before Gamzee stopped being awesome and started being a different kind of awesome?

when you kiss a corpse the dream-self becomes the real-self.

Bob 2013/01/29(Tue)21:42 No. 23613 ID: 78c6ea
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Oh... oh god.

I just realized.

They're on the wrong beds.

>>23613
not...
not really? They are all on the correct aspect beds, and as far as I can tell those are the exact same kinds of slabs rose and dave wound up getting god tiered on, so I am not really seeing your reason to panic here?

>>23615

That's just it though. How do they know they have the right aspects?

The colors are all wrong.

>>23616
>>23616
nnnnnoo they aren't?
The colors are all pretty damn spot on to me, mate
The aspect colros and the colors asssociated with the characters are not one and the same, buckaroo

Archivemod 2013/01/29(Tue)22:25 No. 23618 ID: b53faa
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Also, I feel this belongs here

>>23616
You silly goose, all these colours are correct.

While John and Dave had their colours in their respective aspects, Rose and Jade didn't.

Also in regards to the previous conversation, everyone has a skaiaborn dreamself used when the real body sleeps, but when that dies (or becomes the main body after the real body dies) then dreamselves happen in dreambubbles instead.

Bob 2013/01/31(Thu)17:57 No. 23656 ID: 78c6ea
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>>23619

It's the eye colors that determine it. John and Jade traded signature colors at one point as a show of camraderie, so Jane is supposed to be green and John blue. Similarly Dave is red, with red eyes. And Rose is... wearing... color contacts.

So it totally makes sense! Wrong beds.

>>23656
that...
that isn't at all how it works? The eye colors have nothing to do with the quest beds, dude
See also: troll session. No eye colors, yet still same quest bed colors for the corresponding classes.
Also, hope and light tend to lean more towards yellow beds, just for common reference here.
The eyes have fuck all to do with bed colors, sorry dude

Jade's bed was black, for example, and Rose's orange.

>>23656
You're trolling, aren't you? Making up bullshit, obviously-wrong theories to get people to argue with you?

>>23659
I read it more as "so this supports the theory, but then uh it sort of falls apart here so here's a joke"

I remember jokes

>>23659
>>23661
Sarcasm is notably difficult to get a read on over the internet.

In other news, if you see a guy wearing a headband outfitted with two candy-corn colored bad dragon dildos and a hearty slathering of grey at the next meetup next year, chances are my master plan has not only gone into effect but succeeded in the best possible way.

>>23663
Oh god, what have you done
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

>>23658

Jade's bed was black, with a green spiral in the center. It just had low saturation so it looked white. You can see its color a little in Cascade. The center symbol for the 4 kids was identical to their eye color. John's blue, Dave's red, Jade's green and as I said before Rose is wearing color contacts. Her eyes are naturally yellow.

It's like how Jake's eyes are green, for the green vines of Life. Except Jane is sitting on his bed. They thought they knew which heroes they were, but they were wrong. All wrong.

Here is something I found out exists recently
I feel I should share it with you all
http://archivemclurkmore.tumblr.com/post/40968633983/thedarkestuniverse-my-sincerest-apologies-to

And part two:

http://archivemclurkmore.tumblr.com/post/40968639385/thedarkestuniverse-part-two-i-guess-with

Look at that QUALITY CRAFTSMANSHIP

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT5ACT1x2COMBO.php?s=6&p=007714

uuummmm....

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT5ACT1x2COMBO.php?s=6&p=007720

FFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!

>>23670
WHY

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

WHYYYYYYYY

HOLY SHIT JACK WHY

>>23673

because it was only a matter of time before character-based smuppets became a thing.

Bob 2013/02/03(Sun)01:51 No. 23681 ID: 78c6ea
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Did... did he stab his own eyes out to stop the infection from spreading? Or... or did he do it to make room for the eyes in the puppet?

>love is a brutal shitninja w/ turds 4 nunchucks

>>23681
it seems that he did it to make use of the parts sent to him, truning himself into a sort of vodo-doll/juju of lord english...

Well, I don't understand but the site doesn't want to let me embed this video.
But hey, I made a thing for TF2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J4YWz7Nh7w

Oh and hey an update in which more things happened.
Like, a whole lot of pages happened

Pretty sure that this
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT5ACT1x2COMBO.php?s=6&p=007734
is the single most disturbing thing ive seen on homestuck so far...

>>23731

the Batterwitch is too sexy to be disturbing.

also, Duttle.

personaly i find Jane more attractive.
...i mean..i would.. if she were legal..
..and real..

>>23736
She just turned sixteen. It's legit.

>>23739
Not in every state.

it was a creepy comment either way.

Archivemod 2013/02/09(Sat)07:01 No. 23747 ID: b53faa
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Let's discuss Jake's new attire, why don't we?

>>23747
id rather curl into a ball and cry, cause that face is going to be haunting my dreams for some time..
jesus fucking christ hussie..

Archivemod 2013/02/09(Sat)21:48 No. 23749 ID: b53faa
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Jake in a G-string, courtesy of tumblr.
(source yo: http://g-l-i-t-t-e-r-d-i-c-k-s.tumblr.com/post/42701227405/homestuck-fandom-i-present-to-you-jake-english-in)

>>23749
I would like to NOT see that, please.

it looks like jade is in serious need of a hair cut

Bob 2013/02/15(Fri)22:56 No. 23827 ID: 78c6ea
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nnnnNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

oh god jade went grimbark

>>23832
That was more painful than the updates themselves. Shame on you.

>>23832
You could also say that jane went...
GRIMBAKE.

>>23835
Jane went full Crocker. She has achieved God-Tiara.

this has implications that make me uncomfortable.

>>23842
She was probably just hatesnogging Gamzee.

Clearly, Rose's method of auspitiscing between Terezi and Gamzee was to get Terezi synaesthetically high off sheer redness.

>fuck that guy with a balloon poodle

how do these things not catch on

Well that explains what that 12-planet session was.

>>23886
What explains what now?

>>23890
Oh wait, nevermind, it was an 8-planet session:
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002774

On the top-right there. I guess that's just the now-8-planet post-scratch Kids' session.

The TROLLS' session had 12 planets though... not sure if there's a connection there. Probably not. He's certainly not on any of the planets that were in that session.

...hang on. If him conquering each planet unlocks a new minion with a billiard-ball hat, will he get a regular ol' green minion for the 8-ball?

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007848

suddenly i can see how they may rid themselves of LE's influence...

Bob 2013/03/01(Fri)07:44 No. 23926 ID: 30df25
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>>23897
*this* is how they can defeat Lord English

Carbon 2013/03/01(Fri)10:34 No. 23928 ID: fb4a12
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Gentlechums, I've uploaded my Homestuck TF2 hammer thing, if anyone is at all interested.
http://tf2.gamebanana.com/skins/124723

Bob 2013/03/02(Sat)12:29 No. 23929 ID: f81162
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>>23891
Somebody didn't read the intermission.

Snowman is the eight ball and the Troll session's exiled black queen (and also a universe I guess?)
But who knows how he gets her.

>>23929
We were already told how he gets her. When she's exiled, LE snatches her up.

She was definitely NOT the original Snowman, though.

>>23931
I just realized... if Gamzee becomes Snowman, whatever universe he represents will NEVER DIE.

>>23932
Imagine if he ends up holding the universe the alpha kids eventually make, if he became Snowman

if I was a universe and Gamzee was my Snowman, I'd want to die.

Well. It looks like someone just happened.

I read Aranea's ramblings in Meg Griffin's voice. it's so appropriate.

three more points for the "thats not the real LE!" inasne fan theory, basicalt caliborn is controling some poor shmuk and using him to do all the dirty work while he stays all safe and hidden.
first point is that if LE is full grown caliborn, then where are his wings?
second point is that he hasnt really done anything time related on his own, time players have been shown to no longer need thier fancy gizmos after achiving thier god mode, yet LE is still reliant on his coat.
final point, the use of magic, wich requires a open mind and hope, two things caliborn lacks.

BEGIN POINTLES FAN BICKERING! IT AMMUSES ME!

oh hey the fantrolls from the kickstarter showed up.

Lord English has circle cheek swirls
Caliborn doesn't, at least the one where he's with Gamzee. And can't ever merge with the Calliope half like other Cherubs do, making him likely unable to gain full circles.
Lord English is probably Caliborn from a different timeline where he did dominate naturally. So, interestingly, Lord English is a doomed Caliborn like how a dominate Calliope was doomed too.

granted, the LE we know and fear doesn't have wings, so he might be the alpha Caliborn, but wings may be lost god of war style too.

>>24034

Oh is that what that was?

Damn Hussie, you cruel.

Caliborn has already been told by the narrative screen guy that we wasn't supposed to "win" the way he did, effectively blocking him from ever becoming a full mature cherub, at least emotionally. on the outside, he did gain the red cheeks of a mature cherub but he didn't get the wings. not that we know whether evil (or male) cherubs actually get wings or not.

Ficus 2013/03/08(Fri)13:45 No. 24040 ID: c59939
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>>24038
hey man, they're canon. Surviving past the first panel was more expensive.

>>24039
i think itsa safe to assume that they do, considering the white/black wing thing they've got going on, and i think his development was Emotionally stunted, weve not seen/heared anything about him not aging properly.

the thing thats really getting me going on the whole fan thing is his lack of time-shenanigans and use of magick, they dont quite seem to fit with what we know of him so far..

>>24040
>>24038
It makes me wonder what kind of person can look at this and say "Yes, I'm spending my money well."

>>24045
top 1% of world controls 40% of the world's wealth.
top 10% controls 85% of the wealth.

You just don't understand what it's like to be wealthy.

>>24046

kinda off-topic, but doesn't that mean that globally, one out of ten persons has at least 20 billion dollars in the bank? because that's insane.

>>24047
Even assuming all the numbers involved are indeed correct, no. First of all, it's not distributed evenly. Some people have way way more than others even in the same bracket. Second, who keeps their entire worth liquid? Most of that money is going to be tied up in possessions and investments, not in a bank account.

Aaah, it looks like his emotional stunting will actualy have the physical side effect of no wings.

>>24045
Well the ugly one with the hat was donated by some army guy whose only joy was Homestuck. Dunno about SPORTS though.

I just thought of something, though it's not relevant to current events, just past ones. I think the only person who can kill Gamzee is Dave, because his ancestor version killed the clown presidents.

Clowns CAN die by Dave's hand.