a group of four should head to the river to catch food.

Ouch, alright. I can kinda see why the other races are expanding so violently when its this hard to feed ourselves, with our knowledge of nature.
I don't think we have the resources to support scouts right now. We should move those two to food gathering, then pick Improved harvest and see if we can make mana generation more sustainable.
(Plus there is that area to the West that looks suspiciously like treasure~)



Check out http://tgchan.org/kusaba/tg/res/1940.html for dice rolling. You can roll multiple dice ala 5d100, but not different bases like 1d100+1d101

>>680562
before we enhance mana income we need to secure it by pacifying the bears. otherwise something could happen to it.

Suggestion 2015/11/01(Sun)03:19 No. 680570 ID: 799995
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Ill wait some more for more opinions.
Meanwhile, a selection of spells you can cast during your next Ritual, if you choose so instead of gaining new perks or attempting to soothe the bears:
Dark ritual - Lose 3 surplus food. Next Charm attempt has lower chance of success. For the next 3 Rituals, carry over half of used mana.
Shroud of darkness - Next time you attack in forest, increase your combat strength. Doesn't affect charmed creatures.
Rites of flourishing - Takes effect after 5 turns, then lasts 5 turns. Increases food yield, but slightly decreases mana yield.

I take it you wish to continue to gather mana at the Hearth after current cycle ends?

>>680562
Not only my world is more harsh then the typical Civ, the Fae are purposely designed against population growth. They gain their strength from enchanted creatures and/or performing effective, specialized actions.

Send an extra two scouts to look for more mana sources, have the remaining two units harvest some mana, and then get enough mana to convert the bears.

Suggestion 2015/11/01(Sun)07:16 No. 680578 ID: 799995
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rolled 6 = 6

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Population/Surplus food 8/0 (hungry)
Resources 1
Available mana/Required mana for Ritual 3/6
2 fae scouting northeast - should return in one, two turns tops
4 fae departing to gather food near the supposed eastern river - 1/4 turns to yield (not so close to Hearth)
2 fae gathering mana near the Hearth - 1/3 turns to yield

The scouts should come back soon. Hopefully they return in safety with knowledge of a suitable area for food cultivation. You were able to gather 3 mana from around the Hearth. Your efforts were somehow hampered by the lack of manpower and aggressive wildlife (yeah, the bears). On the other hand, your mere presence helped to soothe the bears a little. For a while now they will not damage the Hearth any further.

Well, all our units are assigned to tasks, guess we're just waiting on results.

So can we do something or can we skip to the next turn?

Hrrrm...I guess get some people on food, and some on mana...
I think we'll have to see how much mana we have but if I'm right and we're about to do some serious Ritual work, it might not be a bad idea to cast Dark Ritual and chain a few of them together...
Well, first off, let's wait until we can use a ritual to charm the bears, THEN we build up the mana to Dark ritual into getting some upgrades, like...
I'm thinking we get Improved Harvest, then Enhanced Antennae.
We're gonna need lots of magic which is why Improved Harvest, and Enhanced Antennae because if I'm right charming won't last forever, so the few fae we can have need to be quite capable.

Suggestion 2015/11/01(Sun)11:20 No. 680609 ID: 799995
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Population/Surplus food 8/0 (hungry)
Resources 4
Available mana/Required mana for next Ritual 0/7
4 fae gathering food near the eastern river - 3/4 turns to yield (not so close to Hearth)
4 fae awaiting orders

Scouts sent to northeast returned (map updated). Not only are they safe and sound, they also discovered some food and an old cache of resources (6 roll from previous reply). No ne specified for how far should they go, so they turned around after surveying the river a little. It seems that some sentient life lives in the river, probably more upstream. It could be also possible to use Ritual to gain link with the river, gaining some sort of information network spanning the river and surrounding areas. It would be not much efficient until improved though.
You gathered mana required for the first Ritual. There were many suggestions, but the most pressing one is to calm down the wildlife. Four of you gather in circle near the Hearth (but in safe distance from those bears) and begin. After few hours, the summoning is complete. It was successful (among other effects, increased mana yield from Hearth) and if you would wish to charm the bears in the near future, you would recieve small bonus to that Ritual.

(Basically, Ritual can be used to a)research a perk, b)cast a spell, c)attempt to charm a creature, or d)special /as was this case/. For the next Ritual, Ill take into account all the replies that were posted before along with any recent ones. Also keep posting, I read all and well thought-out posts are rewarded ingame, even if it doesnt seem I included them.)

Alright, looks as though we'll be alright with food for the short term. Lets set the four bored fae to mana collection and buy Improved harvest next.

Will rituals always get more expensive, or is it only from perks?

What type of terrain is that sparkly bit surrounded by the river?

>>680609
Send one scout left and one scout southwest. The remaining two should collect mana, our goal is to obtain enough mana to charm the bears and then use them to plow any nearby fields.

Suggestion 2015/11/01(Sun)12:45 No. 680644 ID: 799995
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>>680616
>Will rituals always get more expensive, or is it only from perks?
Yes, they will always get more expensive, but its safe to assume you will be able to counteract this in the early midgame.

>>680621
>What type of terrain is that sparkly bit surrounded by the river?
It is a place of commemoration. Legend says united armies of fae, river folk and greenskins drew out the army of evil so a powerful ritual could be performed. Judging from the fact you are still here, the ritual succeeded in banishing the evil.

Ill post update tomorrow.

HRM.
Suddenly, I'm getting worried about those Orcs...
Okay. So Rituals are at a premium and must be used carefully.
Alright, game plan/grand strategy post.
Fae are low population. But we don't build cities. That means we can move about freely, or at least with more freedom then the other races.
We can charm critters unlike the other races, but for the most part we're not up to fighting the other two head-on.
What we CAN do, I think, is play one against the other, and in the meantime prepare a champion with which to move in and crush them when needed.
We play the one against the other by using some early charmed critters to...'encourage' that they move towards each other. We might want to play around with Rituals until we can find some sort of 'berzerker' Ritual we can use in case they try and make peace with each other.
As for us fighting...I'm thinking we might want the antennae upgrade so we can cover more ground with less men, or alternatively ensure they don't go anywhere near a particular spot, like that Hearth we're relying on for mana right now.
I'd like to prioritize Improved Harvest, so we can put more guys on mana gathering than we could afford otherwise.

>>680676
I agree. We're basically a science civ, and our wartime strategy is to launch Xcom squads when they start rolling out their cannons.

Getting the other two into a war would be an excellent way to delay them, though the Orcish ritual bonus for war is worrying.

Hey, could we like, charm some migratory birds to get a basic idea of how the area is laid out?

that observatory looks nice, but we should wait until we have a sustainable mana rather then needing to manually gather it all. a feedback loop to keep the mana flowing even when we aren't trying to would be good.

Suggestion 2015/11/02(Mon)00:35 No. 680863 ID: 799995
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Population/Surplus food 8/+4 (sated)
Resources 4
Available mana/Required mana for next Ritual 0/7
2 fae gathering mana near the Hearth 1/3
1 fae scouting towards west (rolling for success in this reply)
1 fae scouting towards southwest
4 fae awaiting orders

Gathering operation near the river was a moderate success. It's not as abundant source as you remember. High number of gatherers allows you to focus more, along with higher security against ambushes. You now think the ideal number of gatherers in one place, be it mana or food source, is 5. Finding a dedicated place for cultivation would allow you to gather food more efficiently with less workforce.
Two units departed to scout surrounding areas. Several tribesmen don't think it's a good idea to send fae alone.

>>680725
Yes, this is certainly possible. Expect high upkeep and not much efficiency until improved though.

rolled 4 = 4

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>>680863
forgot the roll

>>680433
All right, we want to roll as many rituals as possible. So we should take improved harvest as our first perk, and delicate harvest following that (unless the perks unlocked by improved harvest are more helpful). To get to those quicker also, let's have another pair of fae harvest mana. The other two can be scouts, or whatever else we might need.

>>680892
That makes sense; food from mana harvest should decrease food instability and hopefully replace some of the need for food gathering.

buddy system, fae scout in stacks of two.

Suggestion 2015/11/03(Tue)01:23 No. 681054 ID: 799995
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rolled 4 = 4

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rolling 1d6 for success of southwest scouting operation

Suggestion 2015/11/03(Tue)01:54 No. 681055 ID: 799995
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rolled 2 = 2

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Population/Surplus food 8/+1 (could eat more)
Resources 5
Available mana/Required mana for next Ritual 1/8
2 fae scouting towards north (should return in one, two turns, rolling 1d6 for success)
6 fae awaiting orders

Scouts returned safely. Because they were sent alone, they advanced more carefully and didn't cover as much ground. Fae returning from west stumbled upon a floral enclosure with good magical properties. Some food could be gathered there too. Fae returning from southwest reports sightings of creatures looking like greenskins (though a little taller and with pink skin), presumably on hunt. She doesn't think she was noticed. She also discovered a mushroom field, which when cultivated could bring in good deal of food and some mana too. It is pretty close to where the forest is being disturbed though, so any gathering operation should be set up with added security.

Once again the fae gathered around the Hearth to commune with the forest (Improved harvest researched - Harvesting mana resources now grants some food too).

send a full 5 squad to the mushroom grove so we can get a good food stock so we can focus on mana for a bit.

That should be enough scouting for a while; you don't have the troops or agents to spare for a defensive bulwark, so you're going to have to play guerilla until you amass a creature army.

Harvest mushrooms, but try to find a way to cultivate them in multiple places so that you have a steady rations income. Can you harvest the flowers as well?

Also, harvest mana until you get enough to convert those bears; you need to enlist troops, and soon. Preferably assign enough fae to farm the required amount for the ritual in 2 harvests.

Also, did we perform a ritual? I think our current mana count / ritual cost is 0/7

We just did the ritual to get food while we get mana, set five to mana harvesting. fingers crossed that its at least one food per fae, and is thus greater than sustainable.

Then send the Fae that saw the pinkies back to keep an eye on them.

I don't think we should try anything near the mushroom grove until we have some animals to defend our fae with. We now get food from mana harvesting, so it's probably sustainable to have four fae each on the flower grove and the hearth.
(Or would it be more efficient to have a 3-5 split?)

Can we get the details on our new available perks?
Also, how do we increase population? Do we need a bunch of surplus food like in Sid Meier's series?

>>681122
This.

>>681122
if it's not sustainable the mushrooms once gives us a backlog to slowly work through instead of trying to barely hang on.

Suggestion 2015/11/03(Tue)13:16 No. 681136 ID: 799995
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Updated perks and spells in the table. Still work in progress though. We already researched +food if gathering mana, that stays despite being moved to tier 2. Now in order to gain any tier 2 perk, we have to have at least 14 population and researched tier 1 perk in that tree.

Combat will work like in Travian (http://forum.travian.us/showthread.php?t=75248). All attacks are considered raids unless you tell me otherwise. Each fae has base 2/1 attack/defense value. Expect humanoids to have similar values. There are also bonuses for terrain, morale etc.

If you want to charm a creature, roll 1d6. The stronger the creature is, the harder it is to charm. Big, strong creatures also require high mana and food upkeep. For example, to charm our pacified pack of bears you have to roll 5 or higher.

Also our racial now reads "Ritual cost may never be higher than the current population count.".

>>681081
Flowers will yield only mana.

You may want to consider keeping stats like that on the wiki, for both ease of editing and ease of reference.


So, we need population bad. We probably want to cast Rite of flourishing somewhere, then buy the t1 improved harvest during the post cast time of the rite, then get tons of food while it is in effect.

I'd delay any actual taming of pets unless we get directly threatened until we get the t2 upgrade for it. Can't afford the food cost yo.

Suggestion 2015/11/04(Wed)08:53 No. 681355 ID: 799995
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Population/Surplus food 8/-2 (starving)
Resources 5
Available mana/Required mana for next Ritual 11/8
4 fae spent 4 turns at the floral enclosure and gathered 7 mana and 1 food (Delicate harvest gives 1 food per 5 mana)
2 fae spent 2 turns at the Hearth and extracted 3 mana
4 fae are cultivating food in the mushroom fields - 2/3 turns to yield
4 fae ready to cast Ritual and awaiting orders


As you wait for 2 fae to return from north you debate about what to do next. Half of the group wants to go gather to the mushroom field while the other half says it's exactly what we shouldn't do. In the end 4 fae depart towards the floral enclosure and 2 fae, despite wanting to go to the mushroom fields, stay in the safety of the Hearth gathering mana. They are soon joined by the 2 fae returning from north.

Northern expedition almost ended in catastrophe. You stumbled upon orcs hunting game in the northern forests and nearly became their catch. Luckily the other fae was able to warn the unfortunate one in time.

As the 4 fae are preparing to depart for mushroom fields they are contacted by a merman. You remember merfolk as peaceful and reasonable creatures. This one extends his greetings but expresses disappointment over your harvesting near the eastern river which merfolk consider they territory. You are still welcomed to trade. One of the fae asks why didnt mermen warn fae beforehand, surely there wouldn't be a misunderstanding. Merman says they had business elsewhere.

You start cultivating and harvesting the mushrooms. As your operation nears the end you notice a procession moving through the forest in north. You see a couple of what looks like trade vessels, accompanied by a body of pinkskins. A few of them wield weapons, presumably for the protection of the weaker ones. Seems like they are headed straight in the direction of the Hearth. You have zero experience communicating with these humanoids.

>>681122
Yeah, as soon as we have 8 food a new fae will spawn and food needed to new spawn increases by 1.

>>681233
Rites of Flourishing affect your whole civ.

Hm, this could go badly fairly quick.
The ideal situation is to have the greenies and the pinkies meet each other violently while neither party inturrupts our activities. Perhaps not even reveal ourselves to them.

Are the pinkies using animals to move their ships? Maybe we could charm them to force them to move north, or at least stop them from entering our territory.
If the link is good enough this might also tell us where the pinkies live.

Hrrrm. Using a ritual to charm the human's animals towards the Orcs sounds like a pretty good plan, if we can pull it off from a distance.
If we'd have to be seen, then what we do is we get the Orc's attention, and try to aggro them towards the humans, and use the Ritual on getting Improved Antennae. (I dunno if we'll have time for getting up a decent animal force to fight the Orcs back!)

if we can gift the merpeople some resources as an apology then we should.

Okay, time to charm those bears. You'll need a small army in case the enemy scouts come to wipe your small population out.

>>681439
no, bears are big, expensive to maintain, and hard to charm. the enemy also needs to find us first before they can even try to kill us.

Bears are probably a little later game, I think. I'd rather get something with a better chance that we can just discourage aggression with, if we even want to directly fight.

Suggestion 2015/11/06(Fri)03:17 No. 681792 ID: 799995
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rolled 5 = 5

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Charm attempt 1d6 - horses, 4 and higher success.

Suggestion 2015/11/06(Fri)03:29 No. 681800 ID: 799995
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rolled 2 = 2

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Rolling 1d6 - Were you able to charm the horses undetected? 1 - didn't even got close, 6 - no suspicion raised at all.

Suggestion 2015/11/06(Fri)04:28 No. 681813 ID: 799995
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Population/Surplus food/Food to next spawn 9/0/9 (could eat more)
Resources 5
Available mana/Required mana for next Ritual 5/9
Gathered 10 food and 2 mana from the mushroom field
8 fae awaiting orders

You wait until sundown and then sneak upon the resting caravan. Your targets are horses harnessed to the vessels. You already performed Ritual near the Hearth and now just need to spend a few seconds to infuse the animals. This goes well and you are on your way out. Suddenly the alarm is sounded and there are some quick movements all around your group. You hightail it out of there. Pinkskins soon break the chase, unwilling to move far away from the caravan. After few minutes you regroup, already feeling the link you established with the horses. Suddenly a grisly realisation comes - not all of you are here. Just as this dawns on you, you hear a high-pitched but faint cry coming from the pinkskin camp - 1 fae got captured!

>>681813
Right now, trying to save her might get more of you captured or killed. Plan a rescue, but focus on harvesting the food, mana, and resources required for said rescue. Harvest some more food, you're going to need more fae and fast.

Also, she gets fed a little as a prisoner of war, right?

Hrrrm.
Not ideal.
Okay. they know we were doing SOMETHING to their horses. They also have one of ours.
I'm thinking that we ought to negotiate.
-things we can offer-
No more messing with them and their stuff (we can mess with the Orcs for that!)
Not using whatever we did to their Horses (If something bad happens and we get the horses that's on them.)
Warning them about the Orcs to the North (This one actually maybe hurts a bit, since we want those two factions to FIGHT!)

-What we want from them-
Our companion back (We have few fey as is, we don't need to lose one!)
To stop attacking the Forest (We can spin this as us being gaurdians of Nature or something, maybe try and earn some sympathy points?)

I'm not including a truce because that I think will get...complicated and problematic, in the long run, seeing as how our race probably isn't going to scale well later on (Sure, we'll have super awesome elites, but there won't be enough of us after awhile to combat their numbers advantage)

>This goes well and you are on your way out. Suddenly the alarm is sounded and there are some quick movements all around your group.
They didn't catch us casting magic on the horses; they just caught us sneaking around. They do not seem to be equipped for a military campaign so we might be able to handle this diplomatically. Send some messengers to say (preferably from far enough away to retreat) that they are trespassing in our territory but we will not fault them for it if they return our scout and turn back or go a different route.

>I'm not including a truce because that I think will get...complicated and problematic, in the long run, seeing as how our race probably isn't going to scale well later on
I disagree; we have plenty of scaling potential due to being upgrade specialists. If they come at us with a really oversized population later on after we have had time to prepare we can probably sic a plague on them or something.

The fey that was captured just needs to explain that we were worried about the animals.

The only other race we have met are the Orcs, and they are cruel to their beasts of burden, unlike you are.

We had planned to greet you before you entered our forests, but our interactions with other races have perhaps colored our views on yours unjustly.

Suggestion 2015/11/07(Sat)00:13 No. 682078 ID: 799995
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We don't share language with these pinkskins. In fact, we never interacted before now. Considering one turn is several days, it would take at least 10-15 turns until you can learn the very basics of their language.

Also tell me how do you want to distribute our population.

4 for food, 4 for mana.

Suggestion 2015/11/11(Wed)01:33 No. 683204 ID: 799995
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Population/Surplus food/Food to next spawn 9/-1/9 (hungering)
Resources 5
Available mana/Required mana for next Ritual 5/9
4 fae gathering mana near the hearth - 1/3
3 fae gathering food in the mushroom field - 1/3
1 fae went to offer apologies to merfolk
1 fae captured, unknown whereabouts

You try to control the pinkskins' horses. You'd like to lead them north, towards orcs. Unfortunately the link with them isn't deep enough for them to understand this suggestion. They don't know where north is. Perhaps if a fae could get near the horses, they would follow her. You are sure a command this simple would be accepted. You startle the horses to get them to stall the caravan but eventually it starts moving, its path unchanged. They are now pretty close to where you started to gather the mana.

3 fae went to gather some food in the mushroom field. Some fae think this is a pretty stupid idea, but no one suggested better, so the tribe just rolls with it.

1 fae went towards the river to meet with the merfolk and offer them our formal apology along with some gifts.