"How do we kill this fucker?"

>>632824
...Dude.

First of all, police are PEOPLE. They can be corrupt or idealistic, greedy or honest, family-men or broken-dreams drunkards, or any combination of different aspects and traits that make up life. You can't expect police -> justice and call it a day. For all we know, the police could have been paid off by the Furcutter. Now, it's also possible that the police force has a few werewolves on their side, but you can't be sure of who is on whose side, or even what sides there are!

And just because lynch mobs have been declared illegal doesn't mean nobody will do it. More likely though, people can formulate unique opinions and plans that have nothing to do with lynch mobs or even assault, but can have everything to do with ruining another community; they don't even have to be illegal to perform irrepairable damage!

Plan this out, test the waters, schedule appointments, etc.

>>632829
I feel like the chances of the Furcutter paying off the police are nil. Nonetheless, the argument towards Ulfric was primarily against his point about getting other people killed. It's the police's responsibilities to be willing to die for a citizen's protection if need be, like how a soldier must be prepared to die for their country. It's a worse case scenario that we want to avoid but an ugly part of signing of for the job. I have no moral quandary against having police killed for the sake of stopping the Furcutter and protecting us AND Blanca.

We're desperate. We need to act desperate.

As for people performing illegal lynchings and other damaging actions, simply part of the threat of being different, but ultimately a lesser threat than the FurCutter. Werewolves can't stay a secret forever and we have to start progress now rather than later. Mainly because we want to have Michael live as long as possible.

The biggest advantage of lynching being illegal is that the government can't possibly condone genocide of werewolves without looking like a bunch of dicks. And the chances of being gunned down by a police officer in public when we're doing nothing is also very small since that will bring consequences to the police officer. Though admittedly, we could have Ferguson-like situation in the near present should werewolves become public.

Another point: the hunter is counting on scaring us, and winning the way he usually does. That means, if we want to survive, we stay calm and play by different rules.

>>632836
This. We need to brainstorm. It's obvious a full-front assault isn't going to be doing much, and the sneaky route's probably been attempted many times.
It's clear that we need something unorthodox.

I vote we drive a car into him.

I think the obvious solution that doesn't involve the police is getting an RPG.
Modern weapons BITCH.
Thug Life.
Blame me.
Just break into an armory, get massive ordanance, and FUCK HIM UP.

>I vote we drive a car into him.
>RPG
I would point out that the modern world has been, well, the modern world for a while now. If all it took was a car or a rocket, someone would have used one by now, or gotten lucky. And if we gamble on going right for him with that approach, we're screwed if he has some kind of magical protection. We may only get one shot- that's not unorthodox enough.

I think the easiest modern change to exploit is surveillance. Media. If we get evidence of him being violent, or a freak, or even just interesting, we can make society aware of him. Then his ability to move and operate gets hindered.

It's a pretty low risk, low cost first avenue of attack. Everything has cameras these days, and we're going to have run ins anyways, might as well record them.

>>632846
Seconded.

You know, this makes me wonder. He wants us, in a public place. He mentioned a public place, in the middle of the day, and that he will be waiting. Yes, it's behind a quiet bookstore, but as he said. The hunt is enjoyable, the thrill of the chase.

Like a wolf hunting a rabbit. Wonder if that fur is his or his latest prize.

Okay, Ulric, just so we're clear here... are you saying that if I go to the cops with this creepy-ass breadbasket, ask them to investigate the serial killer who's stalking me, I'm no longer welcome in your house?

The police have hundreds of dudes with guns and training, and I've seen them keeping the peace all my life. You have yourself and Ira, no real plan for dealing with the Furcutter, and I just met you yesterday. If you force me to choose, I'm gone.

werewolves (us)
a skinner, and a red-cloaked companion?
Is it just me, or is this a twisted edition of little Red Riding Hood?
Seriously, there's even a basket delivery to boot!

Why is everyone trying to torch all these bridges, holy fuck back down. These people have more experience with everything thats an issue here than we do: werewolfing, the weird skin guy, and retaliation against said skin man.
Calm down and formulate a plan with them, they may just have a point about the police.

Orion 2015/04/03(Fri)19:56 No. 632874 ID: 76c67f
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"Hey, how old is this Furcutter legend anyways? It sounds pretty old..." Maybe knowing this can help you figure out just how old this thing is...or maybe the Furcutter has apprentices? It's not out of the question.

"It's only about twenty years old." Blanca responds. "The killings began around the time the legend started..."

This entire situation bothered you to no end. The police had to be able to help. Despite what Ulric said to you, you continue to persist.

"Alright, I still say we report this to the local police station." You can see Ulric's face pull into a grimace. "They've been able to keep the peace all their lives...what's stopping them from doing the same here?" You stand up, patting down your pants. "You said all it takes is regular bullets to kill a werewolf, right? Then what's to stop regular bullets from killing a human. I'm going to go see the police and that's final."

"If you go, I won't be able to help you." Ulric snaps. "Neither will Ira. She's not going to get involved in this."

"That's fine...Blanca? Will you come?" The white-haired girl fidgets nervously, shifting her legs around.

"I'd...I'd love to b-but I..."

"Are you scared?"

"...Yes..."

>Try and convince her to come.
>Drop it and leave.

Drop it. These two can handle taking care of Blanca.

Tell them fine, you're not gonna walk out and act unilaterally.

But then we need to talk about what we're going to do. The three of them might have their wolf powers up and under control, but that hasn't worked before, obviously. You're new to this, so all you can contribute is what you can think of. Which is sort of good, because we need to think of something new, that hasn't been done before. That he isn't prepared for. Our heads are more useful right now than our fur.

Personally, I don't think he'd be prepared for non-wolf cops to start hassling him, but fine, we're not going with that.

What else can we do that breaks the mold? Hiding and trying to wait it out won't work.

We shouldn't push her to do anything she is uncomfortable with. Maybe while we are out we could also stop by our place and pick up some of our things.

I also think it's important you ask them what they'd like to do. You're new to this, maybe you're overlooking an option. Tell me what you're thinking, and I'll at least consider it.

...also, why is the choice to leave to contact the police? We have a phone, and running the streets alone is dangerous.

Another option, if they don't want to get directly involved with the cops, is we take the note, and call in the creepy basket anonymously. It's weird enough to creep out people without fur, and could have been directed at anyone in the apartment building. It ups the attention in the area with less personal exposure.

>>632876
Seconding this. We need to take a breath and calm down already.

>>632874
Blanca, it's fine, you can stay. We're the only one to be threatened so far anyway. He's keeping an eye on us, so even if we fail horrifically with my police plan, you should be alright if you're not with us.

Hey, dude, it looks like you're going to need to learn how to transform to prove your existence to the world, and the police.
We're not halfassing the reveal man.
We gonna go all wolf face to the police.

Can you do the hand thing? Right now?

>>632876
I agree that unilateral action would be too hasty. Also, I have some pretty major doubts about the police plan. The police would have a viable chance against Skinny if they went all in with swat or special forces teams, but we don't have nearly enough evidence to arrange for more than a small and mostly clueless police presence. (We might be able to prove that we are a werewolf, but that doesn't mean we will be able to convince them about the magnitude of the threat.) Also, getting police involved would limit our ability to amass a stockpile of improvised weaponry for our own use since police tend to frown on that sort of thing.

As for other potential plans for fighting Skinny:
- Set him on ‼fire‼. All the fluff on that coat looks extremely flammable (and if the furs actually are the/a source of his power than bonus).
- Find out more about the weapons he uses against werewolves, and acquire some of those. If they work against supernaturally strong and tough werewolves they are probably a good bet to use against whatever Skinny is.
- Homemade explosives? They would have significant risk of self-harm, but on the other hand we do have some degree of super-toughness so being hit by a spare bit of shrapnel is much less of a risk for us than it would be for some human. (By the way, make sure that the whole super-toughness thing also applies to our human form as well as the wolf one.)

>>632876
Yes
Aww, no intrigue improv weapons wolf? Ok the n my second notion is plan "stockpile weaponry"
OK THO WHERE ARE ALL THE OTHER WEREWOLVES
SERIOUSLY
THEY SHOULD BAND TOGETHER WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE

Hang on, crazy theory here. If werewolves aren't harmed especially by silver bullets, maybe the old myth actually applies to the Furcutter? Maybe HE is vulnerable to silver.

Ah... also... from the sound of things... when a werewolf dies, the corpse is a wolf? Even if they're not transformed? I mean, if the Furcutter needed his victims to transform in order to collect fur, that means we're actually safe!

>>632906
Except we started to transform when he attempted to attack us, and we were clueless about it then...
Though I wonder...Can Werewolves transform all the way into wolves? By being teh skinner, could he force this somehow to make the fight easier?

Alright, so the furcutter thing only goes back 20 years, and Ulric's saying up to ten werewolves at once have failed at taking him out? That's good. That means this guy has never really been hit with overwhelming force before. Five-to-one numerical disadvantage can be overcome with a combination of force multipliers (special weaponry, training, red-cloaked companion's invisibility) and plausible amounts of luck. If those ten werewolves are acting like a pack, he can figure out ways to turn those instinctive reactions against them. Irritant smoke, flashbangs, ultrasonic noisemakers, hostage-taking and other psychological dickery.

When somebody tries that kind of crap on the police, let alone actually kills a cop, they use their own equivalents, and they can escalate further. There are more than ten armed officers available to the local police station. If they're getting humiliated they'll pass the buck to the FBI or the National Guard. Hundreds or thousands of guys, with rifles and grenade launchers and armored vehicles.

And all that has nothing to do with revealing the existence of werewolves. That's just for a serial killer who's a little too good at taking down anyone who stands against him and hiding the bodies afterward. If he tells the cops I'm a werewolf, and that's why he's after me, the default assumption on their part will be that he is delusional.

>>632913
exactly
"uh, he thinks im a werewolf and he wants to skin me alive" wont make them think "ummm, youre a werewolf?" it'll make them think "you have a delusional stalker"

>>632874
Guys, let's be reasonable here. I don't know why everyone is just assuming police will help. Not only are we going against the wishes of EVERYBODY we are with, what say if the police do not help? Are we really just assuming that the police are going to shoot this guy over our word of mouth? IF the police are even capable of hurting the furcutter, what if he just acts innocent and cooperative? I say we have to DROP IT. We are being so reckless and brash and fucking so full of energy while people around us are trying to relax and think, we are literally the toddler of the group right now. So calm the fuck down and drop it.

Its okay. Just promise me you won't get yourself killed.

>>632921
It is literally the police's job to help. They are a peacekeeping force. We're not even assuming he's going to get shot- even discounting all the supernatural shit he's clearly guilty of assault and following it up with threatening letters. "Acting Cooperative" would be great, because he's going to jail for sure. And if he fights back and kills police, don't forget that blood is on HIS hands, not ours. He's the psychopath, we're not only justified in going to the police because that is literally WHAT THE POLICE WANT YOU TO DO WHEN YOU ARE ASSAULTED, we're also doing our civic duty in helping to prevent further deaths. The only reason he's been able to prey on werewolves this long is because they're afraid of how people will react to them, and the killer's been taking advantage of that to kill them without harassment from the police. Not calling them just continues to play into his hands.

Also, wolves are an endangered species anyway, if he's walking around with real wolf skin, not even real werewolf skin, on his soldiers he can be arrested for at least poaching wolf skin.

All they have to do is that that fur to a lab. They have enough evidence for a warrant too since we'll be giving the basket to the police.

If he shows up with all that fur on his shoulders, right after the note that came with the basket indicates he will be there, and the police are right there.

BAM. Arrested for a LOT of different crimes.

>>632928

Good idea.

>>632921
IF the police refuse to help, or try to help and somehow screw it up so bad it makes things WORSE, then, yeah, that's a serious problem. That doesn't mean it's the likeliest outcome. Even if it does go wrong, all the details of that Charlie Foxtrot will provide us with more information about what we're really up against, with relatively little laying our own necks on the line.

While getting the police to help is the reasonable thing to do; it does not make for a good story. I say we don't call the cops simply because of that. It's like when they call the police in a horror movie; it would probably work on them in real life but something always makes it go wrong or they die quickly because there's someone steering the plot one way or another. (tired so it might not make sense)

>>633027
"Let's not call the police because this situation needs to conform more closely to horror-movie tropes" might actually be a pretty good way to sarcastically deflate Ulric's convictions.

The skinner has a script in his head for how he wants this all to go. There are some flexible bits in the middle, but it ends with one or more werewolves dying and him getting away clean. We need to break that script as thoroughly as possible, at multiple points, in order to exhaust whatever resources he's using to keep it on the rails.

Orion 2015/04/05(Sun)16:55 No. 633075 ID: 76c67f
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"...Fine. What would you suggest we do then? If we can't file a police report then what other choices do we have?" You try and take deep breathes in order to calm yourself. This entire situation makes you anxious and on-edge. Normally, you wouldn't snap at someone like that...but this is different. Your life is on the line.

"Maybe if we're just trickier than him...we can place some sort of trap?" Blanca says, in an attempt to get some sort of thought ball rolling.

"Remember, dear, if the rumors about his little accomplice are true then he won't be alone. There'll be two pairs of eyes watching us." Ira had a point. But were they always together? Maybe the Furcutter is arrogant enough to try and take us down alone.

"Charging straight in won't work..." You grumble. "Perhaps...hey, Ira?"

"Yes, dear?"

"Do you think there are other werewolves in the city?"

"Oh I'm sure of it. I pass by one every now and again. I didn't think we would like the city so much..."

"Could we...ask any of them to help?"

"I...I mean...maybe...I'm not sure how willing they would be..."

"Wait, everyone be quiet." Ulric steps off from the wall, stomping his foot down suddenly. You turn to him, a bit confused.

"What's wrong, Ul--"

"Shut up!" He snaps at you, head rotating towards the door. After a few moments you begin to hear footsteps come from behind the door. You then hear three knocks.

"Hello? This is the police!" What? Could...Could the Furcutter be listening right now? Did he call the police on you? Ulric goes over to hesitantly pull open the door, towering over the cleanly cut man standing in the way. He had combed hair and a fair complexion. The man seemed a bit startled by Ulric's entrance, stepping back a bit.

"Ahem...my name's Officer Hunter a-and I'm here to ask if any of you have seen any strange activity lately. Um...l-large dogs...clumps of fur...anything like that? I noticed a basket full of uh, blood-covered hair in your bushes so I decided to stop by and see if you guys know about it?"

Say that someone did left it there with a threatening note and a loaf of bread.

Why is he stuttering? Why is he alone?

Tell him the basics (fresh loaf of bread in a freshly made wolf-pelt basket) but don't give him more than that.

Tell him the four of you found the bloody fur, wrapped around a loaf of bread, in a basket on the stoop when you got home.

Honestly, you're all kind of creeped out about it, and were trying to decide what do to about it, when he arrived. (Look pointedly at Ulric, you're asking for permission to go further and tell them about the note. That's the minimum you can tell police so you're not actively lying to them).

>>633075
Here's to hoping you didn't make one of the bad guys a cop, Orion...

What the others said.

"Yeah, a guy in a fur coat cornered me in an alley on the way home from work yesterday and said something creepy about chopping up my hair."

>>633075
Wow. Okay, I do not trust this guy right out of the shop.
Shit. Fuck.
Yeah okay, ask why he's stuttering.

You know what, Mike?
I think to ease our fears we need to take a closer look at the badge.

Not to be disrespecting convenient cop but if he is an enemy all he says could be bull, so asking him a lot of questions is okay but not taking it to heart would be wise. Don't tell him how many of us there are as this could be information used to harm us in the future. Also can we take a picture of him with our camera phone, not sure if we have one but if we do we should take his picture.

>>633079
Yeah this.

>>633075
Officer "Hunter"? That's not suspicious at all... then again, if he is with the Furcutter, that would be a pretty stupid psuedonym.

Give him enough information to settle the matter. Nothing more, don't go into details about the previous attack or anything. Once he's gone, go ask some of the neighbors if a police officer came by. If they haven't... we have a problem.

For identity verification, don't just check the official papers; you probably wouldn't know what a non-forged one looks like well enough to tell, anyway. Press for boring background details and procedural trivia of the sort that any real cop would know offhand but an actor would not think to fabricate in advance. Maybe have somebody go to the bathroom with their cell phone and call up the local PD's non-emergency number, to verify that there really is an "officer Hunter" on duty today.

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You step up beside Ulric, allowing yourself to speak for him. He shoots you a wary glance but lets you do so. "Officer, we all found the bloody fur wrapped around a loaf of bread in some sort of basket...we were honestly creeped out about it, and now we're trying to decide what to do about it." Hunter rubs his chin, nodding thoughtfully.

"So you have no idea where it came from?" You and Ulric both shake your heads. "I see..."

"Excuse me, Officer, but why do you seem so nervous?" You ask, a bit bluntly. This catches the officer off guard and he gives a weak laugh.

"Ah, well, I'm kind of new at this...D-Don't tell anyone but I'm technically not supposed to be here. I snuck out to do a bit of investigating...have you heard about the recent dog killings? I'm trying to learn all that I can about them. Please, are you sure you haven't seen anything?"

You still don't trust this officer enough to disclose any important information to him and you have no idea how much Ulric wants you to say either.

"No, we haven't seen anything." You finally say. A disappointed expression falls over Hunter's face and he sighs.

"Man, one would think that such big dogs would be easy to spot." He stretches his back and gives a polite head bow. "Well, thank you for your time...please, if you notice anything find me down at the precinct. It's just a few blocks down. Don't let any other officers know I'm doing this work...this case isn't supposed to be up to investigation." Hunter waves before heading off down the hall, Ulric closing the door behind him.

"Ulric, was he actually telling the truth?" Ira calls from the living room. He puts on a stoic expression, walking over toward the two girls.

"I believe that he's a real officer...but I have no idea what his true intentions are."

Blanca then begins to speak. "Why would he want us to keep his work a secret? That doesn't seem to make much sense to me...and why would the case of all the big dogs around the city be restricted?" You all sit in silence for a while.

>Ask neighbors about the officer.
>Go down to precinct.
>Discuss more things with Ulric and the others.
>Leave to go to basketball court alone.

Blanca's cute when she's flustered.

>Ulric, was he actually telling the truth?
Ulric can tell if people are lying? Handy.

>recent dog killings
Okay obvious question: are those 'dogs' werewolves the hunter got, or have I been turning wolf and killing dogs on the nights I haven't been getting sleep.

(I'm guessing it's likely the former).

>Why would he want us to keep his work a secret? That doesn't seem to make much sense to me...and why would the case of all the big dogs around the city be restricted?
Well, I can think of a few reasons.

One might be someone higher up in the police force or local government knows what's really going on, and is trying to cover it up. So they discouraged the officers from looking into it. And Hunter here thinks something is wrong and is looking into it anyways, but doesn't want to get caught.

...or really, it doesn't need to be someone who knows trying to keep things quiet. Stupid politics or bureaucracy could do the same thing by accident.

The alternative is that Hunter is in on it, and is trying to keep things quiet by stopping people from talking to the other cops.

I hate to admit it, but it does kind of make sense the skinner would have someone running interference with local PD, if he wants to act freely.

>Discuss more things with Ulric and the others.
Yup. We think and talk. No running out and acting in haste.

>Leave to go to basketball court alone.
Hahahaha, no.

>>633177
Easy answer: the police already know about werewolves and they're cooperating with the Furcutter. Hunter must not know what's really going on. I wonder if we can use that ignorance?

>Discuss more things with Ulric and the others.

>>633177
Ulfric, what are the odds there are werewolves amongst the police force?
They MIGHT help us.
Well, with the dog murder happening around we can't reveal ourselves as werewolves because we will be suspect number one and... okay, Ulfric, NOW it's a bad idea to get the police involved, but mostly because we'd all be arrested and blamed for those murders.
If there are any werewolf police people, they'll have motivation to...
Ulfric, Blanca, and Ira are all suspects. They might care about you, but they might eat humans for all we know. That might be why Ulfric wants the police out of this. Because he IS also a murderer. He spoke for Ira earlier, either she DOESN'T know, or he's protecting her.
Shit.
Shit shit shit shit.

>>633226
Um, I think he meant killings of dogs rather than killings by dogs. The language is ambiguous, but it would take a very elaborate conspiracy to cover up regular citizens being killed rather than mysterious werewolves who live largely off the grid.
...It is worth noting though that news we heard didn't report either of those though, just referring to it as dog sightings, though the difference there could be either the police covering up the dog deaths or Hunter in particular making a slip up by talking about killings when everyone else only knows of the sightings.