cthulhlu 2014/09/24(Wed)16:28 No. 85636 ID: 07ff88
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Question, what would you call the Dibellan version of a vigilant of Stenddar?

>>85636
Purveyor of Dibella.

Yeah, purveyor reminds of pervert, or is that just coincidence?

>>85639
Purveyor is a "Supplier," and when you're talking about a supplier serving the sex goddess... Yeah, perverted is kind of the goal.
1. Someone who supplies provisions
The main goal is to supply protection and companionship, I would guess, but if companionship leads to sex... Well, I don't think Dibella would mind one bit.

>>85645
PS: That's my theory on what a <Vigilant> of Dibella would do, anyways. It's ultimately up to Cthulhlu.

>>85646
Well what i meant was a Dibella version of the viggilants, witch hunters who do so in dibella's name ect.

>>85656
Yeah, okay. They're still supplying the service of hunting out Dibella's enemies... Although, while Stendaar is opposed to all Daedra, Dibella I believe would be friendly with a good lot, so long as they're neutral or better to the mortals. Except for any in service to Sanguine. Her and Sanguine are arch-nemeses.
"Witches" is a term I don't much like, but in this context, a simple user of magic would be called a mage or sorceress. A witch would be a more malevolent user of magic.
I still like the term "Purveyor," as it sounds fitting for a <vigilant> of Dibella, but if somebody else can come up with their terms for it...
Oh, something worth mentioning: In European culture, when a female was granted the status of knighthood, she was not referred to as "Sir" or "Ma'am," but rather, "Dame." So Housecarl Lydia would be considered "Dame Lydia" before being called to serve the Dragonborn.

cthulhlu 2014/10/03(Fri)09:52 No. 85801 ID: 490ed5
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A little monster WiP, im making the vampire lords look more like Molag baal since there basicaly his children (kinda.. its..complicated)

Im also working on normal skiyrim vampires, as it always annoyed me the kind you meet out and about where just the normal oblivion vamps and not the variations mentioned in Immortal blood (least i think that's the books name..)

Also dwarf obsessed giant for some reasone.. probably beacuse Giants are the source of the Dwarf name, as the early nords kept hearing them refer to the dwemer as that and the name stuck

cthulhlu 2014/10/03(Fri)09:56 No. 85802 ID: 490ed5
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A few body variations, muscely woman (might go with this for lydia) thin weedy man, midget and guy with no arms.

cthulhlu 2014/10/03(Fri)09:59 No. 85803 ID: 490ed5
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A few quick sketches of Scamps, Winged twilight's and Draugher.

Im trying to move the draugher back towards they way they appeared in Bloodmoon a little, where they did look like some thing that Used to be a corpse but is now.. something else, skyrim dose that pretty well with the skin color and texture, but i want to make it a little more Freaky.

>>85801
Pretty sure there are different courts for vampires, and they should each look different. There's a court that looks like people and wanders through the day without being harmed by sunlight, to the kind that are complete monsters, consuming everything they can like a werewolf. Only not a werewolf.

>>85801
Hit reply early, whoops...
That giant looks like he wouldn't just be the sort to stand around herding mammoths and attacking trespassers.
>>85803
Huh, didn't know about the Winged Twilights. Basically a Daedra version of harpies, yeah?

cthulhlu 2014/10/03(Fri)11:24 No. 85808 ID: faf8e7
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Vampire lord Gwen.

>>85808
you were really hoping we'd go the vampire route huh?

>>85809
Nooooooo...
This is just practice for when we get to tthe Dawnguard stuff.

So if Dawnguard is in, or rather planned, what about the Dragonborn DLC? Will Gwen be able to kick Miraaks ass?

All the dlc is planned, its when it shows up thats up in the air, it might be that we go through the main quest before we get into Dawnguard or Dragonborn, what ever feels more natural.

>>85812
At least gotta go through collecting a few souls and/or words before we go for DLCs.

>>85808
That is clearly too tall to be Gwen.

Also what side quest routes do we plan on doing? Mage college? Companions? Thieves guild? Dark brotherhood? Every freaking one?

We really just have to be decent at whatever area of expertise to make any of these believable to start a quest line, such as all we need is to strengthen our illusion and we can join the college under reasoning of mastering illusion and etc. For the dark brotherhood whenever we hit windhelm we hear the rumor of about the kid doing the black sacrament, investigate, sympathetic Gwen and blam we have us a dark brotherhood Gwen. (Also we would be realisticly to weak to kill Astrid yet so that's probably off the table.) Of course morality would decline but she could justify a lot of the early kills because most of the first few targets are bastards.

Any case wondering if cthulhlu would like us to do one questline at a time or generally go as we please, accepting a few quests at a time doing them at a reasonable pace hopefully.
( or willy nilly 80 quests in our list at once doing them as we come across the areas where the destination of the quest is located.)

Sorry for bringing that up out of nowhere, it was on my mind for a while.

Also nice drawings BTW I like how the armors fit on gwen, and vampire lord is horrific. (In a good way.)

About Vigilants, going by the Vigilants of Stendarr I feel like "Vigilant" translates to "Redshirt". Seriously, I have seen like a dozen of those guys and only one of them were not either dead or unavoidably about to die.

>>85836
I only ever see them go up against bears, wolves, and bandits myself. Never any Daedra, which are supposed to be their target.

>>85839
Really? In my experience they tend to spawn within fighting distance of a fire atronach.

cthulhlu 2014/10/07(Tue)16:24 No. 85881 ID: 9b8c0d
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>>85821
im planning on doing All the quests in a way that at least feels natural if i can, with appropriate time passing between events happening and people knowing about them ect, so no case of one dragon soul leading to the Dragonborn dlc, it will be quite a while before you get to that.
As for gwens morality i totally leave that open to you, im just extrapolating it from whats happened to her so far, so maybe you go all queen of the night on me or maybe you go full on nun, what ever :)

As for this here picky is concept for various news papers that will turn up in the game, it always having bothered me a little that the skyrim equivalent of the black horse courier wasnt a thing.

Highland times and Plains Courier are local news type things.
Storms voice and Imperial Herald are propaganda for the stormcloacks and imperials respectively.

Herald of the nine concerns itself on temple matters mostly.
The light of Truth is a thalmor propaganda newsletter.

Dibbelas delights is almost flat out pornography (the equivalent of Britain Sunday sport) thats almost single handily responsible for reducing the public image of dibella worship to sex cult staus, the church is very keen to find out who prints and sells the damn thing, but no one ever admits to buying it..
(On that note while sex is a part of the cult its only one facet, they spend just as much time painting, singing and writing as they do having sex, something gwen often points out to no avail.)

The Wildman is skyrims source of all things wired and supernatural, on earth this would be either a spoof or some kind of insane conspiracy theory paper, however in skyrim its a good, if eccentric, source of news on strange happenings throught the region.

>>85881
>Herald of the nine concerns itself on temple matters mostly.
Shouldn't that be "Herald of the Eight" or is the paper printed and distributed only in Stormcloak territory? Or is it that they distribute all across Skyrim but print two different editions from (at least) two separate print shops that have basically the same content but change the paper's name to match the local attitudes?

>>85882
Doh, your right about that. however your idea dose give me pause for thought, might work it in there somehow..

Also brain picking time, dose anyone have any interesting ideas on what, exactly the house karls did before they got attached to your entourage?

>(On that note while sex is a part of the cult its only one facet, they spend just as much time painting, singing and writing as they do having sex, something gwen often points out to no avail.)
Clearly, Gwen needs to go on a quest about this. No need to stop them from printing the pornography, they just need to change the name to Dibella's Debauchery or something. Make a second branch for more appropriate or contextually proper works.
Or you could just go about starting up a proper printing anyways, though Gwen would probably have to fund it herself.

>>85888
Lydia was probably a soldier. I don't know who the other house carls are.

>or maybe you go full on nun
It occurs to me being a nun of Dibella might mean something very different than what it normally means to be a nun. Almost to the point of being an oxymoron.

But yeah, what happens should definitely be character driven. Not we-need-to-do-all-the-quests driven. (Or I suppose Gwen could just go off the rails with quests she might disagree with or find morally reprehensible...).

>they spend just as much time painting, singing and writing as they do having sex, something gwen often points out to no avail
It's your own fault, Gwen. We haven't exactly seen you making use of those talents. (Surprising someone with unexpectedly good art / writing / signing etc is going to be a running joke, now).

>>85892
>It occurs to me being a nun of Dibella might mean something very different than what it normally means to be a nun. Almost to the point of being an oxymoron.
A Nun of Dibella can still be chaste... As chaste as Gwen can be at this point, at least, meaning none more.
However, the point of being a nun is to spread the good word and accept confessions of people. They can tend to the wounded, unfortunate, or orphans.

I think the housecarl for markath seemed to be a mercenary, not exactly uncommon for markath so the question might arise why did you stop being a mercenary?

>>85892
Im not saying that they dont screw like rabbits, im just trying to get my head into the same space as gwens would be regarding Dibella and the public's opinion of her, so sorry if i get a little by polar on the topic (Saying no sexy times with one had whilst drawing a TON of them with the other XD)
As for the joke i can totaly see it going more like this

Gwen: Oh for, We do other things! We sing! we paint! we wright! but d oyou people care? Nooo its all just sex sex sex with you lot isnt it!

Housecarl: Ive been traveling with you for a month and i haven't heard you sing once.

Gwen: ..i wasnt in the mood..

Housecarl: you didnt paint either,also i never saw you even look at a quill.

Gwen: ...just shut up and carry this.

On the subject of housecarls i apologize now for railroading when we get to Lydia, ill try to resist it but in every skyrim game ive played she basically ends up as the other half of the Battle couple thing.
I cant help it, Shes so snarky XD

>>85914
You don't play using any of the follower overhauls? They tend to let you have five followers at the same time, y'know.

I play alone unless I want a pack mule (or a tanK)
Which I guess is ENITRELY the reason cthulu has lydia. For a pack mule, you need no one else. Why get Kharjo, Aela, or Mjnoll when you have to work for those when you almost ALWAYS get lydia as soon as you kill your first dragon, which you will want to do on most playthroughs because SHOUTS.

cthuhlu, do you have a plan in case the suggester go the way of most players and just completely ignore the main quest/CW forever?

J'zargo all the way. I am fond of him, and as a destruction mage he has none of that nonsense some followers have of running into melee in from of your spells and shield charges* or reanimating corpses you wanted to loot. Carrying things, decent ranged support, and otherwise staying out of the way are exactly what I want out of a follower.

*I finally unlocked that today and it is the best thing, like Fus with no cooldown that is also a block.

>They tend to let you have five followers at the same time, y'know.
I never got why people want that. Even two companions (counting the temporary ones in some quests) are more of a hassle than they are worth.

I've found J'zargo to be a bit of a douchenozzle. Too damn proud, like a Thalmor, I don't think him and Gwen would actually get along.

Well, we're not forced to limit ourselves to the Followers you can get in the Game. Perhaps we save someone that was doomed to die in Skyrim.

Or we amass enough followers to have a tiny Army of our own. Well, the blades were something like that but unfortunately i liked paarthurnax.

>>85947
J'zargo can be a jerk to varying degrees depending on whether you read some of his lines as tongue-in-cheek or entirely serious, but I don't think it is fair to compare him to the Thalmor. The Thalmor want to control everything while J'zargo just wants to be the best.

>I never got why people want that. Even two companions (counting the temporary ones in some quests) are more of a hassle than they are worth.
I play with some absurd mods that make the game rather difficult if you travel alone. Having allies to fight alongside really helps even the odds when you're fighting dozens of enemies at once xD
>>85964
While characters in-game may be scripted to only have certain types of responses, out of game, they can be given more responses, and the "Player character" can be given more, as well. Treat a guy right and he's sure to change his tone.

cthulhlu 2014/10/13(Mon)17:40 No. 86049 ID: 379233
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little picy of the next bits, just wanted some feed back on the Drauhger, im more or less fine with them but i was wondering if any of you peeps had some suggestions or had spotted faults i missed.

Indonesian Gentleman 2014/10/13(Mon)21:35 No. 86063 ID: 3a2ed7
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>>86049
Iron Maiden them up, I guess? The center two Draugr looks off.

>>86049
Pretty spooky. Looks like their faces are twisted. I like this rendition of the rank and file Draugr.

About the draugr, a lot of them were buried in armor, like roughly 50% I think. As far as the features go I like how you have drawn them. Makes them look threatening and evil.

>>86079
Well these guys are basically peasants, the stronger, more heavily armed draugher are locked away deeper within the barrows. As for the looks im going for less zombie and more a creature that Used to be human but is now inhabited by something strange and alien, this is mostly due to how the nords treat them in game, they dont talk about them like there zombies or spirits, to me it was always like they where talking about a monster.

Also i done lost mah jerrb, so updates will be both slow due to vauge feelings of sad, and fast since i gots a crapton of free time now.

A reasonable explanation of your choices on the draugr, I guess I'm still too stuck in how the game is, oops.

Also I feel bad for you, don't know what to say except good luck with life. :)

According to a book i found in the Dragonborn add-on, drauhger were primarily not tombgurds, but batteries for the sleeping drangonpriests. The entranced people all over solstheim were something like the first stage of creating drauhger. Of course, that was also stated as just a theory.

just noticed something, is it just me or do the carvings on the word walls look less like chiseled letters and more like claw marks?

Maybe they are carved letters and claw marks at the same time, is it possible that these walls were made by dragons? No seriously, they etched power into the written words and stored it for future dragons, only to be moved around and drained/studied by humans to learn shouting themselves.

This is all theory but its not completely impossible, unlike to think that this gives an explanation of how humans just managed to 'pick up' the art and language of shouts, and how they were able to teach it to certain people that had the potential to learn. Unless there is a real lore explanation of course in which I guess the cannon would trump this.

>>86314
only the dragonborn can shout, aka people with dragon blood. a part dragon learning dragon powers from dragon writing, easy.

and yes, the runes you learn shouts from were made by dragon claw, dragon alphabet is scratches and dots(by tapping with the claw instead of scratching)

Regular people can shout with lots of training and focus.
Greybeards and Ulfric are regular people.
In the fight with Ulfric at the end game, does he actually shout in combat at all? I know he killed Torigg with his voice, but I don't know what shout. All I know is that he at most probably knows one or two shouts, and they're probably not the full ones.

>>86323
I saw a video of killing ulfric while siding wit the imperials, and after some back and forth between tullius and ulfric and each of their bodyguards, ulfric used a shout after drawing his weapon and rising from his throne.

It looked like and sounded like fus ro da, and it sent tullius flying on his ass, so we can safely say that's what it was.

next updates are comeing, poses have been a bit of a dick so its taking a while =3= sorry for the delay.

No problem, good luck with the updates.

/ollies in randomly punching
And im back! not much to choose for the next update beyond what Kick ass way you'll deal the final blow ;)

(How about arrows In both its eye sockets and then a leaping slash in the head with an axe?)

So in this quest will we need a dragon soul for EVERzy shout? That's gonna be a lot of dragon encounters. How about one soul could maybe power 3 shouts or something, or three words of a shout in this quest.

not sure where else to ask so 'll do it here. is empirequest(aka Dragon Commander quest) dead on arrival?

>>87199
Ive been in a bit of a artistic funk recently that i seem to be getting over, so im going to try and continue All the quests i started, it seems to be a thing with me where ill start a quest but not finish it and i really want to get over that, as while this is all fun and games it is somewhat rude to present something that will go nowhere..

OK os available perks are as follows.

You qualify for All the tier first tier perks which increase there respective stat success chance/damage by 20%, first tier perks available are for All schools of magics, One handed weapons, two handed weapons, block, Stealth, pick pocketing, enchanting and alchemy.

The only skills available right now that have other effects are Steel smith, wich allows for the creation of Steel armor and is the first tier of the Smith skills, And Quick hands, wich allows you to pick locks without being noticed.

Bear in mind you already have the perks listed here http://tgchan.org/wiki/Dovahkitty

Health and magicka increased.
Quick hands And novice Destruction chosen.

While we fiddle about with the last few bits of the quest line, im gonna throw the doors open for people to redesign gwens hair style, for now simply use the pics I posted before http://www.tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/src/141157494218.png and http://www.tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/src/141151381538.png
to give yourself a idea of her facial structure and how the hair will work with the rest of her.

Don't worry about her not having enough hair, they have enchantments and magic to grow it the right length ;)

I dunno, I liked the fluffy / messy hairstyle she was sporting before the sudden sword shave. Drawing a blank on how to improve that, at the moment.

I would like to note that now we've got one Cthulhlu quest about a dragon, and one about a (would be) dragon slayer. Cue inter-universe strife!

I will say only this.

Olivia Wilde's Tron Legacy Haircut
You're goddamn right.

cthulhlu 2014/12/19(Fri)12:16 No. 88037 ID: e97201
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Rou for the head

cthulhlu 2014/12/19(Fri)12:17 No. 88038 ID: e97201
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Rough sorry. And you manlike this dirtbag?

>>88038
Huh, didn't think it would look like that on her.
I was thiking more flat in the back, like Paz's from Gunnerkrigg Court. This is the best shot of her hair I think that let's you see the curvature.
http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1441
I mean, I love Olivia Wilde's hair in Tron but Paz's hair is what I was actually thinking would look great on Gwen. It helps Paz and Gwen have the same hair color.

Dirtbag 2014/12/19(Fri)13:02 No. 88041 ID: bb78f2
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More like this I guess.

>>88038
That is an awesome looking hairstyle.

Personally I'm a huge fan of long and/or full hair. Something with body and life.

Her old style wasn't too bad. Maybe something a bit below the shoulders?

Iridium 2014/12/19(Fri)15:13 No. 88046 ID: 8f06da
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How does this look?

>>88046
>>88041
I love both of these XD
ill work on them as well as some longer designs tomorrow.

>>88046
Pretty good.

I dunno, I was a pretty big fan of the sorta mussed-up do she had for a while. Love me some short hair mang

Gnuk 2014/12/20(Sat)02:57 No. 88076 ID: bd8f7b
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more hairs

Riotmode 2014/12/20(Sat)03:10 No. 88079 ID: a19cd5
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>>88069
However if we DO gotta go long...

the_drowsy_stranger 2014/12/20(Sat)03:12 No. 88080 ID: 1d00b5
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Maybe Gwen had a big powerup after that last fight and after lots of yelling we arrived here?

>>88080
yelling = hair gel

Azathoth 2014/12/20(Sat)16:05 No. 88091 ID: 1005b9
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These are all good :) working on some more and finishing the next update, So much shopping to do!

>>88091
Middle top and bottom right are nice, tho bottom right is looking a little flat.

Cthulhu, why did you list some of the spells we already have?

>>88161
those are the shop's wares. just because we know them doesn't mean the shop doesn't have them in stock.

I feel like if the scarf wasn't there, she'd have a huge neck.

>>88169
HAh! nah its normal size, shawl is just bundled up around her neck.

>>88161
ill always list spell books as they are the quickest way to teach followers spells, so having a few under your belt, even the ones you personaly know, is gonna be a good thing.

Azathoth 2014/12/23(Tue)06:24 No. 88174 ID: 20e221
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Ok i think these are the four finalists, im really leaning towards the longish dreadlocks..

>>88174
I like far right.

Left shows of femininity but is also a practical haircut for combat. Three is also practical but not nearly as fun.

Votin' number one from left.

Azathoth 2014/12/23(Tue)11:56 No. 88183 ID: 20e221
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First of the final two contenders.

Azathoth 2014/12/23(Tue)11:57 No. 88184 ID: 20e221
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Second one and my personal fave

>>88184
Personally I liked the far left best, but with these two as the finalists, I'm gonna say dreads.

Iiiii kinda prefer the first one, mostly because I´m not a fan of dreads.

>>88184

Go with the cornrows.

>>88183
Fluffy head is better

I have made my decision at last, and will have to live with it until the next close encounter/dragon hair scorching

...yeah, her head is definitely longer than normal under that scarf in the latest few updates. Once she got out of the dungeon her chin got noticeably higher than the tops of her shoulderpads; this should not happen. While she was in the dungeon still it was fine.

>>88208
thats my fault, part illustration error and part movement of her shoulders lowering the pads.

As you can see i went with the dreads, if just seems to really Really suit her in my head..