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71965 No. 71965 ID: 933f92

Because.
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No. 73027 ID: cf49fc

>>73021
Snaketits already gets her tits out regularly.
>>73025
DEFINITELY SHADRAN.

Although this path will most likely lead to our Lord being killed and eaten.

So in other words, it's a win-win scenario.

Hang on a tic, I just realized something. If we're supposed to shame prideful people out of pride with public humiliation, doesn't that mean REALLY prideful people who are REALLY powerful will just become more angry and attempt to hunt down the source of their humiliation?
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No. 73028 ID: b64ef2

>>73027

no, the other Snaketits.
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No. 73029 ID: bf54a8

good thing we TELEPORT through space and time once they are adequately humiliated. can't catch us if we move to a time they are already dead.
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No. 73042 ID: 57a559

The most prideful quest character I know is Zane
but that sounds like a really complex one to even try a crossover on, how would sci-fi quests even mix with this one?
Any Elf character ever.
Abel, Fluffy or Beatrice from How to be an Overlord
The Boss from Loretta Quest needs to be taken down a notch, another Fractal character might be Harriet
Hope, Kara, any member of the Seven Sins family from that old classic Kara Quest, can't forget about Rastin
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No. 73050 ID: 25312f

I vote Zane.
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No. 73056 ID: cf49fc

>>73029
And then we made the mistake of humiliating a Time Lord...
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No. 73067 ID: 2fbf20

>>73042
>>73050
Who is Zane?
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No. 73068 ID: c23ab0

>>73067

Zane is a very humble hard working furry whom everyone wants to get embarassed and naked for some reason.
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No. 73071 ID: cf49fc

>>73068
I vote for Commander Comfy-Bat. None of you remember her name either.
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No. 73343 ID: 67bfa9
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73343

Wildeye fancied herself a scholar, but a gnoll thinking they possessed intellect? HUMILITY cannot allow such hubris, and punished the creature accordingly

public exposer and dropping books earns her two more strikes, and with her first strike earned last month(eating without utensils) she is expelled without any return on her tuition.

Sorry Wildeye, looks like it's back to the hunting ground with you.



>>73067
Zane is the protagonist of my Quest Colony Guard, a tiny raccoon anthro space trooper
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No. 73345 ID: 735f4f

Aww I feel bad for her. Humility is one thing but messing with someones education? A vengeful god indeed.
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No. 73350 ID: 1d5849

Vengeful and racist.
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No. 73363 ID: cf49fc

>>73343
What a prick. It's a wonder an army of irate mortal heroes have not arisen to try and murder the gods, at this rate. Or that they haven't sold all their souls to Demons in exchange for power. Or that Steve the Titan of Ether hasn't shown up to curbstomp all the gods and consume their delicious, delicious essence.
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No. 73370 ID: c23ab0

>>73363

Dammit Steve, always slacking on the job.
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No. 73371 ID: cf49fc
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73371

>>73370
I bet Humility would declare Steve too "Prideful", and disintegrate her ridiculously fancy Avatar outfit. I can only imagine her suitably-vengeful response. Steve wasn't very good at embodying the Eight Virtues now that I think about it. She was actually more their polar opposite whenever she could get away with it.
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No. 73373 ID: f5680f

Pride is super-prideful.
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No. 73379 ID: c23ab0

>>73373

Pride is currently blubbering like a baby having soiled his drawers while begging pitifully for his life. I'd say pride is the last thing on his mind right now.
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No. 73380 ID: cf49fc
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73380

>>73379
Deus is prideful. Look at his pimp-ass beard. It's made of GOLD. He so fly, he don't grow hair, he grows MARBLE. And his facial hair is so much more impressive than Humility's.
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No. 73383 ID: f05efa

>>73071

Her name is Ekia, you dumbface.
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No. 73399 ID: cf49fc
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73399

>>73383
Does anyone else hear that strange buzzing sound? Ah, well, it's probably nothing. Also, this man is very prideful.
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No. 74421 ID: 67bfa9

Shot_ has found himself pre-occupied of late and no longer has time to write for Humble

I however am still willing and interested in drawing for the quest, and with Shot's blessing I will will be searching for an author to take his place

if you are intrested in possibly writing for the quest, or have any other questions let me know here our in IRC
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No. 74454 ID: e1609c

>>74421
It seems like a pretty straightforward quest idea, honestly. No particular overarching plot, just find ways to humiliate assholes
I might be able to do it, pm me on irc tomorrow and I'll toss a few ideas your way, characters are my strong suit and I should be able to mix up the challenges a bit so that the humiliation process doesnt consist entirely of "cast loosen on clothes, laugh at exposed boobies/penis"
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No. 74458 ID: f0357f

>>74454
You should do one involving an Artist!

Imagine the sheer fun of humiliting a 'Modern Artist' at a posh Gallery Opening, as we pose as a mortal Art Critic!

>ridicule choice of acrylic paint like an amateur
>bullshit by pointing out that if you cock your head one way, the whole thing looks like a crudely drawn cock and balls with color splashed onto it.
>ANIMATE picture frame support so it falls onto the floor
>LOOSEN stricken artist's shoelaces so he falls onto his own painting
>CHARM fellow critics to laugh at the stupid amateur before moving on.
>CHARM fellow critics to laud avant-garde "sculpture" of chicken wire next up, as the humiliated artist is forced to listen on while tying his shoes, so that he is crying quiet tears of shame as he picks up his destroyed picture and leaves the Gallery.
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No. 74471 ID: ca1c58

>>74458
But that doesn't support the obvious fetish content of the quest.
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No. 74476 ID: e1609c

>>74471
>CHARM Artist into drawing furry porn and presenting it at his gallery
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No. 74478 ID: beeca1

>>74476
Or becoming a performance artist and enacting furry porn at his gallery.
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No. 74486 ID: 01531c

I want to try to Humiliate a drill sergeant!
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No. 74491 ID: e1609c

>>74486
>Drill seargent
>ANIMATE a fluffy pink tutu to attack said drill seargent
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No. 74512 ID: 01531c

>>74491
The Drill Seargent rips the fluffy pink tutu apart with his bare teeth.
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No. 74515 ID: cf49fc

I want to see us bite off more than we can chew. Like trying to humiliate Rance.

Or trying to humble Order.
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No. 74530 ID: 67bfa9

>>74515
you want to lose?
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No. 74544 ID: e1609c

>>74530
I dont think it would be a definite lose situation, just a bit of a tough battle where they either know what is up or if they figure it out we have a high chance of getting smote
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No. 74545 ID: b5df96

>believing Rance is even capable of experiencing humiliation
>not a definite lose situation
That man is like a sociopath. Only instead of being incapable of empathy, it's shame. There literally is no win condition in that match up.
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No. 74546 ID: 933f92

>>74545
Rance can be shamed. One of the bad ends is of that. It's just such an extreme situation it almost never happens.
It's the genderswap shrine.
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No. 74549 ID: cf49fc
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74549

>>74530
Yes. I want to see the GODS brought low by the pride of one individual. A being so ABSOLUTELY FULL OF THEMSELF that literally NOTHING can faze them. A single creature of such abhorrent, nightmarishly vast self-worth that the very soil he walks on develops a god complex. I want someone who is JUST THAT PROUD.
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No. 74562 ID: c23ab0

>>74549

"We literally have a 4 alarm underwear situation and he just does not give a fuck! Repeat he just does not give a fuck!"
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No. 74564 ID: cf49fc

>>74562
"I'm not wearing any clothes you say? Then BASK in my GLORY."
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No. 74566 ID: 57a559

How about we Humble the humilty god? He seems pretty prideful and boastful. He thinks he's better than people who think themselves better than everyone else!

The nerve!
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No. 74571 ID: cf49fc
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74571

>>74566
My GOD. You're right. Prideful, vain, arrogant, is currently wearing clothing... ALL signs of people who must be humbled.
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No. 74574 ID: c23ab0

>>74566

I'm sure we'll get to that eventually. Well, either that or Lonelyworld gets tired of this quest.
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No. 74575 ID: cf49fc

>>74574
Hold on a second, I have a question: How does one humiliate someone who wanders around without any clothing on?
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No. 74579 ID: 256d52

>>74575
You put the clothes on, then you take them away!!!
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No. 74580 ID: b0d1a8

How would you humiliate someone with no concept of clothing, personal space or words like vinetits.
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No. 74587 ID: 13a36d

>>74575
You make them wear an embarressing outfit.
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No. 74606 ID: 57a559

>>74580
She probably has a alien sense of pride it wouldn't fall on our radar. I mean, if she can't be brought down she can't build up either.
Humility would have to be stretching far to justify an attack on vinetits or someone similar. She's even outside most social bounds. With a person who isn't ashamed of nudity or close contact the only way to shame them to to socially astrange them. You'd have to make Vinetits do something she would regret. Hurt something she cares about.
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No. 74696 ID: 67bfa9

after much consideration
I've selected the new writer to be Beakiehelmet,
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No. 74911 ID: c23ab0

>>74580

Animate vines to curl up and away from her, as if in disgust or fear!
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No. 74948 ID: 67bfa9

I don't want work on a quest that actively offends other authors and would-be authors
Until I am convinced that the majority of quest authors on the site do not have any issue sharing board space with Humble, I will be unable to continue drawing for it

any other suggestions, critiques and opinions are incouraged and welcome.
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No. 74950 ID: 933f92

>>74948
now what brought this on
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No. 74951 ID: 41690e

>>74948
You need to stop being bothered by Ralith or whoever it was complaining in irc.

Seriously, not offensive at all. It's cute, fun, and fairly silly.
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No. 74952 ID: bf54a8

i vote YES to humility.
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No. 74953 ID: a23afd

>>74948
This could be seen as holding the quest hostage in order to get praise from the Cool Kids Club. It would be better to continue unless those specific people you care about actually object to it instead of people in IRC just offhandedly saying they aren't interested in stripping people.

I mean what are the chances that all the people you want to respond will even READ this?
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No. 74954 ID: 214399

"I don't like it" and "I'm offended by it" are two completely different things. I think everybody on this board just chooses not to read the things they don't care for.
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No. 74955 ID: 3e4b6e

If people don't like it they can DEAL. They don't have to read it.
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No. 74956 ID: 214399

>>74953
Also yeah, I mean, people who don't read the quest aren't gonna bother reading the discussion thread unless they heard you talking on IRC or whatever.

Also just to be clear I am not in any way offended by the quest.
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No. 74957 ID: 0046c5

>>74954
In lieu of writing out an argument I'll just second this. This quest is not for me at all but that doesn't mean I want to run you off the board or anything.
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No. 74958 ID: 34cbef

i don't mind it, i've been wondering if my quest should cross that nudity line myself
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No. 74959 ID: 1f8505

I vote yes. It's a light-hearted quest.
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No. 74960 ID: 35edd4

First, I am not an author, so take or leave this comment as you like.

This quest disturbs me in a way that no other tgchan quest has, and that's saying something. It strikes me as immensely creepy and fetishistic, and lowers my opinion of those involved.

That in mind, it should carry some weight that I think anyone who's actually offended by it does not deserve to be accommodated in the slightest. This is tgchan, not the local church. Be as creepy as you like. You're not even trolling; if anyone has a problem with your quest, they are free to press the hide button. Despite my feelings on the matter, there has been and will continue to be far more overtly offensive material on tgchan, and that is normal; as far as I'm qualified to judge, you're not further reducing the respectability of the site at all.

I don't like your quest, but I very much like tgchan's quality as a place of relatively free expression. Someone being offended should never be sufficient reason to stop anything--at best, you're trying to accommodate a highly subjective moving target. I would be very happy to see this quest replaced by something better, but let that decision be made on the basis of its own merits, not to quiet any claims of offense.

Besides, you know how to draw and (your writers know) how to spell, and in my book that puts Humility above a good chunk of tgchan despite its character.
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No. 74961 ID: 67bfa9

>>74950
a number of people calling the quest garbage. this came as a shock because until this point I'd not heard any real critisism. I feel insecure because I don't know how much is not being said out of being polite

>>74953
I'm not holding the quest hostage, but as the current chapter is over now is a good time to evaluate how the quest has been going, and general opinion, I'm not asking for praise I just don't want silence, I think it's important to know why people don't like certain things as that is the first step towards making improvements.

personally, though I like the fetish, it was not my idea, I'm mostly offereing a pen to a creative cause I agree with.
some people have suggested less fetishy directions for this quest to go in and have absolutely no problem with that concept
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No. 74963 ID: 35edd4

>>74960
Also I don't think anyone's actually claimed to be offended at all in the first place.

>>74961
>some people have suggested less fetishy directions for this quest to go in and have absolutely no problem with that concept
I'd certainly like that. I guess part of my deal with this quest is it's got technically competent writing and good art so I want to like it, it's just that the whole malicious pervert god objectifying more or less innocent women thing is creepy as hell.
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No. 74964 ID: 67bfa9

I actually don't like humiliation,
I mostly just like funny expressions and clothing loss (little/no audience prefered)

>>74963
Humility is straight up a terrible and evil being
I think the long term plan is that he will end up being the main villian
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No. 74965 ID: eba9b6

I think the quest is fine as is. It's a silly and entertaining quest.
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No. 74966 ID: 34cbef

>>74964
listen brudda, why do you torture yourself with something you don't enjoy- if you feel like continuing it you have the power to direct it to a place you would rather be

Don't force yourself on account of obligation- you got a whole board of folks who'd understand if you took a few creative liberties
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No. 74967 ID: 67bfa9

>>74966
I'm not "torturing myself"
I'm just saying I empathise with the humiliation aspect bothering people, I continue doing it because I believe there could be an adequate payoff storywise and understand that sometimes characters in stories are asses and are abusive to people
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No. 74968 ID: 34cbef

>>74967
what is it that you call doing something that you don't like?
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No. 74970 ID: 67bfa9

>>74968
what I'm saying is I don't have to enjoy murder to write a story in which people get murdered

bad things happen to people in stories, it's true
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No. 74971 ID: 34cbef

i'm just wondering if you enjoy writing the story, you're getting a little too worried about what a small minority thinks- if you like doing the quest i don't see why someone's opinion about it bothers you this much
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No. 74972 ID: 735f4f

You should never censor yourself because someone might "get offended". They are free to hit the hide button if they do not want to read it.

As for the quest itself I think its very entertaining. Humility is obviously a creepily evil old school sort of god and I hope to see his powers turned against him one day.

The board could use more lighthearted fetish quests. People like to get offended over fictional writing far to often.
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No. 74973 ID: 13a36d

>>74960
>This quest disturbs me in a way that no other tgchan quest has, and that's saying something. It strikes me as immensely creepy and fetishistic, and lowers my opinion of those involved.

If this quest honestly disturbs you more than the works of Reaver, Flynnmerk and Vytalibus to name a very select few among many then I don't really know what to say.

Now I just recently signed on to this (you can see where the trip changed), but my plan is to make this quest ridiculous and fun, I don't think there's anything necessarily creepy about stripping the clothes off pompous people. In my view, the entire thing is and should be tongue in cheek, light hearted, and not taken so seriously. It's a puzzle quest about harmless nudity, and the targets all have a ton of negative karma to boot.

If anyone's on the fence about this then I ask you to withhold judgement until after the next round, when I get to write for characters I've created for this. After that, we'll see how things go.
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No. 74974 ID: 01531c

>>74973

Since you're writing now, I want to humiliate a tzeench sorcerer.
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No. 74975 ID: 13a36d

>>74963
>, it's just that the whole malicious pervert god objectifying more or less innocent women thing is creepy as hell.

That's not objectifying. Objectifying is taking away everything that makes someone human to glorify their physical attributes. When a character exists purely for fanservice or to show off their amazing body and has zero character otherwise, that's objectifying.

Second, nobody is innocent and one of the targets has been a man. The entire plot of the quest so far is that the god of humility is punishing those who partake in the sin of pride, in addition to being generally bad people. Refer to my post above for my take on the future of the quest.
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No. 74976 ID: 13a36d

>>74974
Actually... that has potential. I'll think about it.
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No. 74978 ID: 41690e

>Humility is straight up a terrible and evil being
In the sense of one being ordering what amounts to vigilante assault against another? Sure.

But in the sense of a god trying to punish a sin, with the intent to allow the sinner a chance to reform and repent? And in a fairly benign manner? Humility's tactics come across more in the league of fae pranks and cruelty than the torment that could be inflicted by a vengeful god.

And I am more than happy to run around taking people down a peg who need it, and not turning on the dude giving us our orders.
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No. 74979 ID: dbe554

I like this, wanna see it keep going.
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No. 74982 ID: 7e859d

Humility is pretty cool. Loving Modesty. I should also mention that I really liked your Clamp Quest thing a while back. I thought it was strange that that one got so little attention.
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No. 74984 ID: dab45d

>>74975
>In social philosophy, objectification means treating a person as a thing, without regard to their dignity.
Pretty much exactly what's going on. Pointing a finger and going "well I'm not as bad as those guys!" doesn't help your case here either. Classy.

Quest, have fun, do whatever. Not everyone will read it.
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No. 74985 ID: 67bfa9

>>74982
I'm glad you liked that, but it's understandable that it wasn't very popular as my writing is fairly weak, which is especially noticable when I'm compared to Lagotrope
(not everyone can make Lago spinoff's as good as Jukashi!)
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No. 74988 ID: 57a559

I like stamping hubris into the ground. I mean, nudity ain't what I like the best I'd rather Nameless One shame 'em through dialoge-like but my dialog rants suck shit so I guess this is the simplest way.

I just want fun various ways. Nudity? Fine brah. But I also like screwing with the mind. Enough times just getting 'em nude to humiliate them is going to be too similar. I would have loved finding the priest's own embarrassing secrets and revealing them to the world. Something actually permanent. Everyone in that congregation is just going to laugh and snicker but know it was just an "accident" or if they're smart enough figure out that it was a third party (those cat ladies aren't just going to forget our fake get-up, some sort of word's going to get around).
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No. 74989 ID: beeca1

>>74988
I think the idea was that it shouldn't be permanent because they didn't do anything deserving permanent humiliation.

I do hope we get someone who does soon, though. No way saying that is going to bite me in the ass later.
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No. 74990 ID: 57a559

>>74989
An embarrassing secret reveal would have been pretty permanent without being too harsh. And it wouldn't have been viewed as an accident either, well that depends on the secret.

We must bear ALL secrets, be they flesh, sin, or words!
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No. 74991 ID: a23afd

>>74984
...at worst, you can complain that the god in question is focusing on the most perverted way to humiliate people. That's... really not objectifying them. In a way, you could say that seeking to humiliate someone is IMPOSSIBLE while objectifying them, because objects cannot be embarrassed.
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No. 74994 ID: 13a36d

>>74984
I said that the quest was not as bad as what others have done in the context of that the quest disturbed someone more than "any other"

There are far worse quests and quest content than simply "Oh my a person is naked how lewd." and honestly, I can see no way that this quest could possibly disturb anyone more than the content of something like the quests authored by those named and more.

Secondly, nobody is being treated as an object or thing you silly billy. They are persons who are targeted by a vengeful god because of things that they have done.

Now everyone calm down, have fun, and stop over-thinking these things.
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No. 74995 ID: 933f92

Speaking as the one to start this, I think I've a stake to take part in the discussion, although it's a mite late.

Haha, I love arguments.

Anyway, you have to understand a few things - first, not much of the quest is really planned. Or was, anyway. It was meant, from the beginning, to be a silly, fetishy romp, which appealed to both me and LW. It's not so much meant for just porn as it is shits and giggles.

It's not meant to be creepy, nor is it meant to be serious. I mean, really, this is like Senran Kagura, or even Queen's Blade. No sex, no aroused genitalia. And we're (or at least me) aiming for additional, secret objectives that give you more power for being more clever, like making the goblin wrestler lose in addition to losing her clothes. (I hope this trend continues, btw)

I understand the dislike, but as everyone else says, hide and ignore if you don't like it - It's not like we're taking over the board!
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No. 75001 ID: ba8629

I don't have any strong feelings about this. It's a fetish quest and that makes people uncomfortable, but I think the ship has sailed on disallowing fetish quests.

It's a pretty mild fetish at that.
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No. 75004 ID: a4d6ab

>>74994
You're doing that thing again.
Also, ”sexual objectification” is not the only meaning of the word. My point is that if you can't see why someone could find this a bit creepy and intend to dismiss any other opinions as silly there is zero point in continuing the conversation. There is a difference between overthinking things and not thinking about them at all.
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No. 75013 ID: 4652c9

I wish the creative energies and cool concept of a power-based puzzle quest was applied to something with fewer nipples that didn't make me feel as bad but w/e! I'm down with it

I don't read it because I feel funny about taking peoples' clothes off against their will but I can see the appeal of the mechanics and etc. and even moreso if public nudity is yr thing. We don't have enough puzzle quests! And the art is nice! So that's a good thing.

Oh but making an argument about how it isn't even a little fetishy and is just giving prideful people their just desserts is p silly until there's a character who has that happen to them in a way that isn't getting naked
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No. 75019 ID: c23ab0

I love how everyone's yapping about objectification, when the titular picture of this thread has the god of humility reduced to an inanimate statue.
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No. 75027 ID: 4410f7

I had a bit of an issue with the quest up until the latest mission, at which point it became basically fine: hey, at least we objectify both genders now.
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No. 75033 ID: 939000

Ok, first off this whole debate is big, stupid, and completely unneccessarry, and beyond this singular post I wont really be weighing in on the matter.
What it boils down to, however, is that porn exists, and it stands to reason someone would want CYOA style porn stories.
Yes, it is kind of creepy. Y'all are right about that much, but then again most porn IS.
Thing here is, who cares? this is hurting literally nobody, and people are having fun DOING it. And when it boils down to it, that is pretty much what quests are about, having a goddam good time

And honestly, this isnt even the harshest fetish quest on here
I mean god damn, soulsworn is about some douchenipple that steals panties to feed his megaman gear new powers, that is loads creepier than this man

TL:DR stop your bitching, people are having fun
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No. 75034 ID: 67bfa9

>TL:DR stop your bitching, people are having fun
critisism is good, it's the only way to learn.
if I wanted to receive nothing but praise I'd go back to deviant art
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No. 75036 ID: 4652c9

>>75033
Cut that out.
Even if that wasn't a scuzzy as fuck thing to say normally, the author asked for people to give input and have this conversation.
Don't tell them to shut up.
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No. 75066 ID: e1609c

>>75036
Oh, well shit
that was my bad, ignore that post entirely because that was dumb
Next time I wont jump into the middle of things, sorry again yo
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No. 75121 ID: 0bc691

>>75004

There is a difference between finding the quest 'a bit creepy' and saying that it is creepier than the various quests that have included 'trying to fuck retarded people who are clearly hesitant' and 'telling retarded people to rape and eat other people.'

The response was, in fact, in response to this post:

>>74960


So here's the answer:

Quit being a dipshit. You are being completely dismissive of what he IS saying in a textbook strawman sense. You are ignoring the context to which he is specifically referring in order to say he's trying to deflect ALL conversation.

Classy.
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No. 75123 ID: 4410f7

Hell, you know what used to be creepier than this? Mudy Quest.

And we all basically loved Mudy Quest.
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No. 75125 ID: ccf689

>>75123

> And we all basically loved Mudy Quest.

U wat m8?

It was pretty much divided between people that loved it and loathed it. It was a very polarizing quest and it was certainly not 'loved by all'.
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No. 75134 ID: 4410f7

>>75125
Ehh, maybe time has gilded the memories for me.

It was definitely more creepy than this thing, though. It should be remembered just for that, so that pretty tame quests such as Humble Quests wouldn't be declared the epitome of creepiness.
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>>75134
A good amount of people do remember it as just that
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No. 75162 ID: 4410f7

>>75148
Clearly not enough, since we still get posts like >>74960
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>>75162
To be fair, if that's how he feels, that's how he feels. Just saying that you think something else is creepier doesn't suddenly invalidate how another poster actually feels about this thing.
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