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59003 No. 59003 ID: 8aff52

Hey everyone! I figured it was time to make one of these.

I'm glad we're receiving such a positive turnout to our new quest! I hope we all have a great time with this.

I should point out that my artist does have a work schedule, and lives in Germany to boot, so can only draw so often. We'll do our best, but be patient with us.

Did anyone have questions?
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No. 59022 ID: 2037e2
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59022

Yes, I am a mature and responsible adult and have job so I can buy art and action figures. But no worries, there will be draw!

Kaed will take away my star wars and lock me in a box if not. ;_;
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No. 59027 ID: f2974f

So it's a collaboration quest, that is neat.
Don't have any questions so far but i gotta say i like the art and hope this quest will not die before it gets really going.
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No. 59030 ID: 48459c

>>59027

We will do our best! I've been pondering this quest for ages and Lovar was just finally the one who was able to let it set off.

Take care of your artists, kiddies! They are fickle and complex creatures, requiring lots of grooming and attention!

And maybe a box or two.
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No. 59043 ID: 2037e2
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59043

So I've actually been streaming these while I work, and a couple people asked about my SAI brushes. They're actually REALLY REALLY helpful when I need to quick shade something or add some texture, so I figured I'd link them here as well for anyone else who might be wondering just what I'm using. http://darlingmionette.deviantart.com/art/SAI-Tutorial-Custom-Brushes-162081137 (Obviously that's not me, just the tutorial I got them from.)
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No. 59057 ID: 88ad3e

>>59043

where did you get nanomachines, Lovar...?
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No. 59102 ID: 2dc0f5

Yeah, I have a question. Kaed, whatever happened to explore quest? Did you forget about it?
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No. 59168 ID: 2037e2
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59168

So Chapter One is over. Any questions, comments, art suggestions for chapter two? This is my first time drawing for one of these, so I'm trying my best to make stuff clear, but as the artist at times I'm not sure how well that goes. Feel free to be harsh. ;D
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No. 59170 ID: 976ee5

I also want to point out to people that the prologue was intended to be, to some extent, railroaded. A few important things were discovered, several goals were reached, and then it came down to one of two ways for the prologue to end.

This was just the more unpleasant one.

But now the fun will commence, with a minimum of forced paths.

Chapter 2 starts tomorrow!
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No. 59177 ID: b85f8c

I think maybe some of the newer suggesters haven't dealt with traps in quests before :/
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No. 59182 ID: aff299

>>59177

What do you mean?
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No. 59190 ID: 6a1ec2

I've dealt with traps, but this place seemed safe enough. There was a question of if it looked like the fallen skeleton's bones had just gotten pushed apart by dragging something through there, but it was never answered. I think if it were clearer that the skeleton had been chewed in half then more people would have advised extreme caution. At any rate it makes sense for the protagonist to be a bit naive, especially since there were no traps in his entire existence beforehand.

Generally a quest author will make the first trap an automatic "close shave" if they want the audience to be checking for traps in every nook and cranny and all. Otherwise the audience just assumes that would be disruptive and avoid suggesting danger lurking in every corner.

I can definitely say that now having actually gotten caught in the teeth of a trap, you'll see no end to suggestions to carefully manipulate things from a distance. Good luck getting any actual suggestions past that!
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No. 59197 ID: b85f8c

Well, I meant, if there's more than one skeleton in a location there's either a trap there or a monster's lair. Since it was a corridor, the more likely explanation is that it's trapped.

It should've been a red flag. I don't think anyone can really complain about triggering and getting wounded by the trap. The fact that like three updates went by without us getting any say in how to REACT to the trap was a bit frustrating, though.
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No. 59207 ID: 243ed1

>>59182
Again, what happened to Explore Quest?
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No. 59216 ID: aff299

>>59190
>>59197

I'm sure that would have been true if we remained in the corridors and spent more time with tomb exploration. The fact is that the trap was a device intended to establish several things rather than set the tone to 'extreme caution':

-Give some insight into how he handles injury
-Establish that yes, he can be really naive in some ways
-Make the status screen appear for the first time.

After that the prologue was finished with its goals and it was time to move on to the actual plot, because I didn't want this to be taking large amounts of time crawling around in (well ransacked and treasureless) ruins. Sorry that you guys felt a little unable to react.

>>59207

sorry ten. I saw the first time but forgot to answer.

I'm not sure. It's on hiatus for the moment, and there is a lot of focus on getting this one running. It will start again, in time. I haven't abandoned it.
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No. 59218 ID: 2037e2
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59218

>>59190
>>59197
I will definitely work on making things a bit more clear next time as to things chewedapart ect.
Also my timing. I was trying to convey short sequences while still staying within the one-panel-per-post quest layout that had been set up, but that does seem to be frustrating people. Should short actions be hooked together in one long image? Or should I work on conveying them fully within the one panel?
Also, as Kaed pointed out the prologue was meant more to just get people used to how things work and unlock the character screen, so in the future there will definitely be less railroad and more choices. (See image, it's one of my pathfinder dungeons)
It was also meant to show that there was actual consequence and Protagonist could get hurt, so like, making things feel more 'real' versus just a silly doodlequest.
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No. 59219 ID: 243ed1

>>59216
Okies, thankies for the answer.
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No. 59223 ID: b6edd6

>Also my timing. I was trying to convey short sequences while still staying within the one-panel-per-post quest layout that had been set up, but that does seem to be frustrating people. Should short actions be hooked together in one long image? Or should I work on conveying them fully within the one panel?
Having several panels in one post is one way to do it, but there is a simpler way to have a single action in multiple panels. You can do so by writing in the subject line like...
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No. 59224 ID: b6edd6

...this.
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No. 59227 ID: d6c330

I'd have to say my only complaint from a depiction of puzzles perspective was that once the saw-blade was revealed, we couldn't tell how big a threat it was. Where it was, if we'd already avoided it, how big it was, etc. I for one assumed he'd already gotten out as we'd suggested, and he was looking at the thing. Was kind of surprised to see it running into his back a panel later.

But that's a pretty minor complaint, especially since it didn't appear to have any serious consequences. Good job overall, and don't worry if the intro was partially railroaded.
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No. 59229 ID: 6a1ec2

>>59227

The last guy got cut in half by the saw blade. I think if it were easy to avoid he wouldn't have dove in front of it? Our guy was struggling to get out of the tiny passage and arguing with us; simply didn't have enough space and time to get out of the way, much less to punch the saw.
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No. 59232 ID: e1062d

>>59229

Damn you, physics! You always get in my yay!
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No. 59354 ID: dc363b

We are experiencing some minor delays due to my draw sergal having a crazy party weekend and wanting to collapse and hibernate.

We'll probably start this evening.
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No. 60082 ID: 2037e2
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60082

Sorry about the wait guys! I had a few bad days there.
I am back on track and drawin' along again though, as you can see.

Chapter 2: http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/450063.html
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No. 60083 ID: 1fcf1d

Here we are again.

It's always such a pleasure.
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No. 60152 ID: 6a1ec2

>>60082

>slenderpeep
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No. 60153 ID: c44286

Just figured I'd say that I love your work, both of you! Keep it up!
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No. 60169 ID: 2037e2

Sorry for tonight's lack of art quality, I updated my video cards' drivers and it made my tablet freak out. Very hard to draw with :C I'll have it fixed for tomorrow's session though.
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No. 60170 ID: c44286

Hope you get if fixed soon, I know how annoying it is to have a messed up tablet :3
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No. 60310 ID: 2c59b3

Not sure where the draw sergal went... said he had a four day weekend but sort of vanished!

I'm sure everything is okay though.
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No. 60745 ID: 2c59b3

Okay people, update. Got in touch with draw sergal again, he's had a rough time lately, but hopefully we will be able to resume in the near future. c:
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No. 62225 ID: 8aff52

Hey, everyone who still cares about this quest or even remembers it.

Sometimes the most sucky part about running a thing like this is understanding and that your hopes and expectations for it aren't always going to pan out. In fact, sometimes it just sort of dies without any particular warning.

I guess the point of this rambling update is really to let you know that Legacy Quest is probably over, or at the very least on indefinite hiatus.

It's been two months, and I think I need to accept that my artist friend just isn't with me anymore. It's upsetting, but I guess lingering around hopefully isn't going to change anything.

So, barring someone here wanting to take over for him (which would be really cool but I doubt it happening), this quest will have to go on hold until he suddenly comes back or I have enough artistic skill to do it myself.

Sorry, everyone.
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No. 62261 ID: 886a4d

You could always try doing it as a text quest.
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No. 62262 ID: 44f93b

That's too bad. I did enjoy this one- the wood elemental deal was fairly unique and had some interesting potential, and I liked the art style too.

I wish you better luck the next time you try a quest. Perhaps your draw-buddy will crop up in a few months, too.
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No. 62270 ID: c971d5

>>62262
I'd really like to continue too, buddy! This wasn't a random thing either, this was based on a world setting I'd been developing for over a year no and off. I'd still love to keep going, I just have to admit to you all I don't know when that's going to happen.

>>62261
... I don't know, man. I thought people didn't really care for those. And thus far it seems the plot and the art together were the pull. If I remove half of that, will anyone still care?
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No. 62950 ID: 252e1b

>>62270
Obviously some dudes care about text quests, there's at least three that are doing just fine. Most of them seem to end because authors flake instead of them losing their audiences.
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No. 62980 ID: 3338b5

>>62950
>Most of them seem to end because authors flake
I think that's more true of quests in general than text quests in particular.

More broadly, yes there is an audience for text quests (albeit a smaller one) and yes, some people really don't care for them. At all. (Philistines).

That said, it would require a fairly significant shift in tone and style to pull a transition from an imaged quest to a text quest. In fact, I'm not sure the elements that appealed to me here would translate well at all. It could still be possible to work out something good- but it would be something significantly different than you have here.

>tl;dr
Don't be afraid to try a text quest someday if you're interested. Not really sure this quest would feel right as one without a fairly dramatic overhaul.
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No. 63017 ID: 8c24d3

Please take this out of the graveyard. :)
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No. 63100 ID: d6ae01

Thread's back in /quest/. If there's a next time I'd recommend using the report function to report it as "UNGRAVEYARD PLZ" or something. It ensures we see the request sooner so you aren't kept waiting!
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No. 63162 ID: 8d16be

Hey everyone! It's good to be back! We have a new artist now, that I had the intense fortune to stumble across quite by accident while looking for something totally unrelated to this. He calls himself Sime, but I'm sure he'll get around to introducing himself properly soon enough.
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No. 63241 ID: 3f2f3e
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63241

Hello I'm Sime and I'll be your artist for this flight. Hopefully.
I go to college wed-fri, but I hope I'll be able to keep the updates flowing decently for Kaed!
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No. 63243 ID: f2c20c

>>63241
Cool.

Do you draw with your nose?
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No. 63247 ID: 3f2f3e

Absolutely.
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No. 63266 ID: 41d906

Hey sime! Enjoy your stay
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No. 63269 ID: 182b11

>>63241
this art style looks really familiar...

scribble-chan?
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No. 63288 ID: 3f2f3e

>>63269
Nope! No idea who that is haha.
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No. 63297 ID: 182b11

>>63288
oh, they did some quests around here then vanished i think. I was just noticing their art style looks similar to yours/that image.
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No. 63375 ID: 976ee5

Wow, suddenly - thread explosion. Note to self - controversial decisions spur audience response.

I hope you're all having fun! If me and Sime can meet up today, we might be able to get a lot of this part out of the way. I think we're both off today.
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No. 63460 ID: 144900

I'm Glad this quest is back, also the new art style amuses me to no end.
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No. 63533 ID: 076b78

>>63460

Amuses you in a good way, I hope.
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No. 64107 ID: 83821f

Thanks for reading, everyone! I had been looking to find a way to give the chapter a definitive ending, and after little Chrysalia is rescued seemed like a great time.

Chapter 3 will begin in a couple days or so, and will start where this one left off.

I'll see you then, unless anyone had questions.
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No. 65187 ID: 48459c

This sure has been a quiet discussion thread.
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No. 65202 ID: 1e72ae

You do a good job of showing things in the quest. I don't have any questions at least. By the way, the wolf in this instantly reminded me of Twygg. (especially with the glowing looking eyes and all) Have you ever seen it before? http://walyou.com/new-geeky-art-iv/jon-snow-3/ (zoom in a bit to see)
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No. 65205 ID: f00049

>65202

No, I hadn't seen that particular picture before. But I know the duo from the Game of Thrones series, and the way those eyes were drawn was purely a stylistic choice - the wolf is an albino, and should have regular, though red, eyes.
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No. 65214 ID: 388aa6

People will make questions and start discussions eventually, just chill and keep updating. I'm liking the quest so far
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No. 67224 ID: 83c12a

Sorry guys we're still having motivational issues in the art department! I think college stress is really getting to him, the next update has been 'close to finished' for weeks now XD Hoping the next few weeks we'll start progressing again, but we're not dead.
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No. 69751 ID: c3e31b

As you can probably tell, Legacy Quest has acquired yet another new artist - Fen. The last one may stay around for the sake me occasional entries if the current one is having problems, but he is very busy with college so I hope our new one will stick with us.

I'm sure he'll introduce himself in the next few days.
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No. 69829 ID: 7d9fa1
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69829

SO HELLO. Hi. I've taken to holding this fake pen and squiggling it around until vaguely pleasing shapes appear for you guys. I hope you like~!

But I mostly hope I can keep up. ._.;;
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No. 70167 ID: e42a0c
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70167

We've been busy during the break before the next chapter!

Behold, our concept art for a new character that will play a big role in the plot - Garrl!

Look at that loveable face.
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No. 70168 ID: 001618

>>70167
Ooohhhh
I'm lumberjack and I'm ok
I sleep all night and work all day
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No. 70172 ID: e1242d
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70172

>>70167
You say it's garrl but all I see is winnie the pooh.
Or maybe I've been using this gif too much
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No. 70173 ID: a2e386

>>70167
You go, Garrl.
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No. 70701 ID: eaf2f5

I'm happy that this quest is still alive, also curious to see how many different artist will draw for it before its over.
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No. 70774 ID: 1fcf1d

>>70701

At least 4. Fen just got a full time job and has informed me he can't commit more than a once and a while update anymore :C

Looking for a new artist AGAIN~
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No. 75096 ID: 105554
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75096

Hello, I will be your momentary draw thing. What's that? 5 now?
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No. 75097 ID: f45e95
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75097

>>75096
OH HEY NEW ARTIST!
I THINK you would be the 4th, nonetheless we appreciate that you have taken up the seat for it and hope to see more of you in the future.
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No. 75118 ID: 105554
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75118

Oh, Hiiii! It's the draw thing again. I hope you're enjoying this. I'm trying to get some practice in, so the style may change.
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No. 75226 ID: 105554
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75226

So, this art thing is tired from a 13.5 hour shift. May be not tonight. :x
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No. 75229 ID: 7639a5

This new art stuff is looking pretty good. Please don't let the author drive you to madness like he has all his other victims!
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No. 75247 ID: 91c1b3

>>75229
Yep.

I really like the way you do backgrounds.
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No. 75248 ID: 817a06
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75248

>>75229
>>75247
It's what I do! If you guys keep enjoying it, I'll keep trying. Thanks. <3

As for Kaed, I'm not worried.
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No. 76248 ID: 817a06
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76248

Oh, what was that? I'm supposed to draw something? Diablo 3 seems to have mysteriously appeared for console. Let me get right back with you.
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No. 76635 ID: db5510
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76635

A totally sweet new artist ;3
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No. 76716 ID: 105554
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76716

Totally still playing Diablo 3, and I ain't even mad. <3

The new art thing's awesome.
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No. 76719 ID: a36601

>>76635
Are you the one drawing it this time?
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No. 76722 ID: da4ec6

>less than two threads in
>five different artists
>possibility of the fourth returning for a period
I pity the poor bastard who maintains this quest's wiki page.
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No. 76723 ID: da4ec6

>>76722
Four threads, sorry.
But that's still pretty impressive.
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No. 76725 ID: 2f2cd6

>>76722
Pff, there are way messier pages to wrangle.

Even if this one does hold the record for most credits among quests not intentionally set up to be a huge multi-author collaboration.
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No. 77140 ID: 105554
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77140

>.> Nah, I'm not the new art thing. I'm the previous one. I went AWOL due to video games.
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No. 79370 ID: db5510
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79370

Still alive over here, we should be resuming soon. In the meantime, have a doodle.
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No. 90735 ID: 9d4ab1

quiet here
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No. 90818 ID: e114bc

Are we ever gonna see the unluckiest paladin again?
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No. 92213 ID: e114bc

Well I decided to get off my ass and work on decoding the symbols seen in the flower images and the intro image. It's really easy due to having the corresponding plaintext for every flower image, but I found some oddities.

First off, every I is replaced with Y. Similarly, every F is replaced with P. Third, every W and V is replaced with the symbol for U.

The Moondrop text replaces every period and comma with A for some reason. Previous flower texts have symbols for periods and commas, so this might be a problem with (I presume) automated code for making the ciphertext?

There aren't any J, X, or Z present in the plaintext yet, but using what I have now, I can almost completely translate the text in the intro image:

KAERNYPE(1=probably x, for Kaernipex) ARE
MANUPACTURED PROPA(looks like - is replaced by A in this one)
ERTY OP CYNODYNE
YNSPYRANTS. MANUA
PACTURE OP HYBRD
MODELS MUST BE
GRANTED BY PERMYSA
SYON AS PER CONA
TRACTUAL OBLYGAA
TYONS.
PAYLURE TO
COMPLY UYTH YNA
SPYRANT REGULAA

It stops there. So... it was an incomplete copyright warning.
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No. 92215 ID: 9d4ab1

>>90818

Yes. This story will (eventually) include three characters each with their own story that eventually intermingle.

The slow pacing of this has been a great frustration for me, but I have set an artistic standard for this quest that I can't match without outside artists. X_X

>>92213

You have it basically right, with only a few letters wrong. Unfortunately, when that image was made, I was not aware exactly how wonky it looked when translated, or that the cipher was bizarre and duplicated letters. Or was missing bits. The text, properly translated, is:

Kaernifex are manufactured property of Cynodyne Inspirants. Manufacture of hybrid models must be granted by permission as per contractual obligations. Failure to comply with Inspirant Regulations will result in sanction.

What any of that means is up to reader guesswork. But, I will say.

It's not exactly a copyright statement. :3
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No. 114200 ID: f9400c

Hey, everyone!

It's time for a new artist to give this old story a try - me!

Yes, that's right. I have a tablet now, and armed with these new tools, I will be taking over this quest myself!

I'm pretty excited about it :D
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No. 114742 ID: 3ce125

>>114200
Hey I just wanted to let you know I'm glad you're still giving this a shot. The art is clearly understandable which is the important part, though I'm sure you're gonna get tired of drawing trees constantly!
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No. 129936 ID: 9ba167

Hey. I wanted to give a notice that this quest will soon be reviving, but more importantly, wanted to talk to people about something regarding this quest in particular and it's protagonists and characters.

When I first started writing this 7 years ago, I had a much less concrete idea about the world setting it was in and particularly the designs of the characters involved. I had a very dog-centric set of aesthetic tastes and not a whole lot of design creativity. Over the period of time where this quest was largely sitting, I had a lot of free time to develop the world and reconsider designs, learn more about what made something feel visually interesting.

And 'regular anthro dog man with some branches growing out of his back' just doesn't really meet the standards I have for design today. So, while it might be a little weird, going forward, some characters, particularly the main one, may suddenly look a bit different in body shape or general design than they used to. I can't go back and revise every piece of art made for me by the frankly massive array of artists who have worked on this quest, but I can just move forward with a look I'm more happy with. This will be sort of a 'retcon' change, and not one that I will explain in-canon in any fashion. I will just treat things as if they have always looked this way and focus on moving the story forward instead of trying to think up reasons in-character why things are different and wasting time acknowledging them.

Also, there is now a Patreon for me and Cervink's quest work. Cervink will be the new dedicated artists for all my quests that continue on this medium. There are already some patron-only rewards up, if you are interested in learning more about this world-setting!

https://www.patreon.com/storyboundproductions
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No. 130131 ID: 8eaf98

I personally like how June quest handled its multi year pause >>/quest/920998 mentioning it as a idle thought and then continuing as if nothing happened (because nothing in-verse did)
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No. 130455 ID: 9ba167
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130455

Some early concept work for new Twygdrassil.
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No. 130592 ID: 864e49

KAED
You're Back :D
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No. 130600 ID: 9ba167

Hello~
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