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132605 No. 132605 ID: 12b116

Somebody asked for one in the last thread. Feel free to use it to keep track of important information, or discuss things.
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No. 132762 ID: 12b116

Mirrin = Miranni. I must hate her or something jesus chirst
No. 132763 ID: 015bf2

too late she's Mirrin now
No. 132768 ID: 5877dc

Oh boy, look at all those proxied votes for the horse.
No. 132773 ID: 6f7a5a

yeah there's some obvious tampering
No. 132829 ID: 5877dc

Is everything okay there? If you feel that these pinups are too time-consuming to draw, then I'd prefer you simply continued the story without them.
No. 132831 ID: dc9bc2

He’s probably just making sure the naked, decapitated horse is of the highest quality.
No. 132867 ID: 12b116

I need sufficient days to ensure I can do the next episode once I start it with at least one update a day. So when I have a lot of court and stuff, I don't want to start the next bit. It'll maybe be next week when the next episode starts.

There's a big recap, just like at the end of the last one.
No. 132868 ID: 12b116

There was a similar break between the first and second episodes.
No. 132947 ID: 12b116
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E2 pinup. Due to the failure of the poll, I selected an orc at random.
No. 132949 ID: 5877dc

Thanks for deciding to do these. It came out well. In fact, it came out too well! You're making me second-guess my choices haha
No. 132973 ID: 5877dc

>You do not remember the evening when you wake up
So guys, got any guesses as to what happened during this evening?
No. 132976 ID: b1b4f3

Foot rubs, then sleep.
No. 132978 ID: 4286b4

That seems to be the most likely thing, yeah.

Hopefully this evening doesn't come biting us in 9 months huehue. But let me try my luck in ITQ.

>Rhaina Willowhearth Must Be In Love With ME!
I wanted to mention that I feel like this part is very important, but no one really gave any thought to it. What Perferlain told us here indicates that Rhaina is biased. This means that when Rhaina told us that nothing beneficial would happen if the orcs obtained fairy's heart, it's possible he was lying to persuade us in preventing her death, due to the fact that he didn't want to lose his love... which is weird because he already has a wife in Willow heh.
But still, what's important to know is that, it's possible that fairies in this world are wicked beings, and that we're making a big mistake to be helping one. It's possible that when Anle said that the orc mission involves both human and orc-kind from getting hurt, that she was speaking the truth so the failure of their mission here carries some grand-scale negative consequences.

This is why I actually wanted to vote to betray the fairy by telling all of the orcs of the incoming attack once we woke up. However, since Vengeance plan was decided on, I had to respect the votes of the fellow suggesters and work within this framework instead.
No. 132983 ID: b1b4f3

If you have insights like that, you need to share them in the quest thread BEFORE the next update.
No. 132991 ID: d88d26


I expected the fairy would be morally dubious or evil the moment I read the race name. It's kind of their thing: silly but cruel.

Maybe fairies are more demon like in this setting, but no one other than the orcs told us anything that would suggest this to be the case.
They didn't even told us what they were after, it was a secret. Saying what they intended to do would be beneficial could mean they were destroying an evil being, but since they were after the heart it's more likely that the benefit would come from the magic they wanted to do with it. That is assuming the "benefit for humans" wasn't just a small lie to make the protagonist think more positively of them.

As far as I'm concern the orcs didn't give us any reason to side with them. They just forced the protagonist to work under threat of death if he got caught doing something against them.
They show themselves to be existential threats in a way the fairy didn't.

I would prefer to let the orcs face the fairy on their own, but I lost to chance to recommend inaction when it was relevant and the majority seem to want to save the wifus anyway...
No. 133000 ID: 9f0851

I like to think that this https://youtu.be/mSe7jTmwWP0?t=7 was playing on the background the whole time we were talking with the fairy.
No. 133011 ID: 12b116

Seems appropriate, although there should be some bells or waterfalls in there somewhere probably.
No. 133012 ID: e24163

Good stuff with chapter 1! I guess my preliminary question is a classic one - what's the least expected thing the players ended up doing this time around?
No. 133013 ID: b1b4f3

What was the most beneficial long-term thing we could've done?
No. 133014 ID: f56a2b

Just what kind of things would have happened if we had gone with the war wizard, or with the WW and mercs, or with the dwarves? What if we chose a different town to travel to? Would it have been the same orcs, but no elf involved?
No. 133016 ID: 12b116

I was mostly surprised that everybody was so intimidated by the fairy and immediately capitulated. My most expected outcome was that they'd get the heart, tbh.

Honestly, you made fairly optimal long-term choices leading up to the capture. You spent time with Caoiran early on, which means she wasn't a problem during captivity, and you spent time with the elf so you got elf deets and he trusted you.

The other fairly useful choice is spending lots of time reading the medicine book. Spending time with Kevwar gives you access to the kitchen, which makes poisoning the whole camp easier. Spending time with the goblins leads to a different escape option, and they don't run off and loot the corpse pit during any escape option that doesn't directly involve them.

The only really suboptimal choice was not giving Rhaina back his sword. That's how come he got injured and died. And of course, taking Kelepee isn't an optimal choice, but it's not an awful idea. Saving her gives you negative orc faction, but taking her with you gives you positive orc faction.

So, if you go with just the WW, you get a lot more WW info. The outcome of the ambush is semi random, but the most likely scenario is her wolf dies, she escapes, and you get captured. Then there's a thing where you have to try and find components for her to make a new War Wolf so she can spring you. You only get fairy info or a chance to contact her if you took the elf and spent time talking with him.

If you take the dwarves, they successfully repel the orc ambush. You don't get out scott free though. Your horse dies and the dwarves don't want to let a band of murderous orcs run around waylaying strangers, so you essentially have to go with them to investigate.

If you hire both the WW and the Mercs, the results are very random. It's possible but unlikely that they'll repel the attack, and a lot of the outcomes depend on who you spend time with.

The orc adventure only happens on the road to Willow.

There's a completely different adventure for the other roads.

Those will get used in future adventures, with alterations based on what happens each chapter.

For instance, if you hadn't gone to Willow this time, then next chapter, it would be a choice, but the adventure is fairly different. In chapter 3, the orcs are gone, having successfully completed their mission if you didn't go to Willow in Chapter 1 or 2.
No. 133017 ID: 12b116

Also e3 pinup, just post your vote in this very dis thread.

No. 133018 ID: f56a2b

No. 133019 ID: 0fae41

Ah, another meme option, that means it's time to vote for
[X] BRhaina
No. 133020 ID: e7c7d3

We are not worthy of a bread pinup, I vote Mirrani
No. 133021 ID: b1b4f3

No. 133023 ID: 2aa5f0

No. 133024 ID: e24163

We'll have more chances to hang out with Kelepee, which means she'll be around for the future votes. Voting Miranni!
No. 133025 ID: f16953

No. 133026 ID: 6f7a5a

No. 133029 ID: 9f0851

No. 133030 ID: 0055dc

miranni, ez
No. 133031 ID: e4e6e7

It can only be bread.
No. 133032 ID: 5877dc

In order of my preference:
The Rabbit (>>/quest/967670)
No. 133033 ID: 864e49

Pretty much this.
No. 133034 ID: d88d26

Not that I want to dispute a positive outcome, but I'm a bit confuse about some points:

No one though it was suspicious that the fairy own us a favor?

The orcs hated Kelepee so much that saving her was negative for them? I though we would be doing them a favor, even if she is weird she is useful for the group.

During our last conversation with Rhaina he said he could be rescued. Was that a lie? Did we take too long?

Do all paths lead to high stakes adventures? At the beginning I though this would be about negotiation of bread and pelts, the orc camp put me in a survivalist mentality, but the outcome was so different from what I expected that I may have misread the quest since the beginning. What is this quest really about?
No. 133036 ID: 12b116

Whoever is suspicious probably isn't saying anything. After all, if they think you're allies with the fairy, it probably isn't a good idea to act against you immediately anyway.

Miranni doesn't think you're involved because you spent a lot of time with her so she trusts you. She's pretty much the de facto leader at this point. I'm sure some of them are somewhat suspicious.

Also, fairies are known for doing random shit. She didn't say she owed you a favor or that you made a deal with her.

But yeah, you certainly didn't max out orc faction rating or anything.

The Merchant is also very good at lying, and there were good suggestions about acting surprised and trying to minimize any obvious connection between you and the Fairy.

Literally every single orc you talked to about Kelepee said she was a dangerous psychopath that they could barely keep in check.

Rhaina had a chance to die every day. He failed the very first one, so it was just bad luck, really. He wasn't exactly lying, but he also minimized his condition.

>>High Stakes Adventure
Some of the paths were less "high stakes adventure" than others, but all of them other than Croyd lead to extremely unexpected encounters.

I basically just put various groups/factions doing various things on the full map. You only have as much knowledge about wold affairs as the POV character does.

Hope those are useful answers!
No. 133037 ID: 5877dc
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I think this chapter went really good and I see no major issues with how it went. If you were to ask me for critique, I feel that things went a bit too well in fact. Our plans never encountered any snags and we didn't get punished for any mistakes we might've made. Anle and Miranni agreeing to leave the camp with us seemed a tiny bit unrealistic considering they could've asked any other orc to do it - I believe a couple of orcs had "provision" jobs. And the part where orcs did not find anything odd with what Perferlain told us. I mean, Perferlain said "I can smell your scent on this creature". Which implied that she already knew our scent before we even showed up.

But in general, it was a very enjoyable chapter to read and suggest in. Thanks for running it!

Anyway, there's one other thing I've been wondering about. Well, theorizing. When Perferlain said:
> >>/quest/968476 >It would be cruel of me to return to her a cost she freely paid.
what did she mean with this?
We know that Kelepee wanted to become a shaman and failed. But if she failed and paid a price for it, why would it be cruel to undo that transaction? Also, Perferlain said she paid the cost "freely". If she had failed, I don't think this payment would be voluntary. So it makes me wonder if she actually failed, that is, if she really got nothing from her attempt at shamanhood.

(image unrelated)
No. 133040 ID: b1b4f3

I suspect that Kelepee did her Shaman trial and got offered a second deal by the spirits or whatever: tremendous combat skill in exchange for bloodlust.
No. 133045 ID: e85a08

No. 133047 ID: 4f5082

Bloody Kelepee
No. 133051 ID: ba86d7

You pay the cost to make the attempt, not to get the powers.
No. 133056 ID: b1b4f3

A bit foolish of her to pay her sanity in order to get shaman powers.
I wonder what the lead shaman gave? We never even saw them in the quest.
No. 133063 ID: dd40ce

You don't actually get to choose what's going to happen. It's more like, "Hey, drink this magic ghost water. There's a 1:10 chance that you'll get magic powers, and something shitty up to and including death will happen to you, completely independently of whether or not you get the magic powers."

Most of the time, people who get the powers just have a temporary psychotic episode that they recover from unless they injure themselves during it like Miranni did.

And some people who don't get powers also have a temporary psychotic episode that they recover from, but some never recover, and some die. And some have like, permanent nerve damage and shit.
No. 133067 ID: b1b4f3

Doesn't really sound like a price freely given then.
No. 133070 ID: 4286b4

Maybe Perferlain was simply being sarcastic when she said that.
No. 134767 ID: 07ed53
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Nude colored goblin
No. 134768 ID: dcf013

I never thought I'd find myself saying now that's one sexy goblin.
No. 134839 ID: c09f5e

Now this, this is how to run a Neutral character that has to deal in murder.

Evil characters don't have to give any f'ks, or look like they do.

Good characters should feel at least uncomfortable with it, but would often weigh it along the lines of a greater Good.

Neutral characters have no such comfort, so would deal with it like an average person would. Props to the QM for showing that.
No. 134840 ID: 12b116

I appreciate that the players have been cognizant of it too.
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