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106192 No. 106192 ID: ed33de

Discussion Thread for my first quest, Team Port Echo! I hope to really expand this universe with many adventures for our heroes.

Here I hope to show around some art, answer any questions you may have about these characters without spoiling anything, and figure out ways to improve the dice-roll system.

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No. 133369 ID: 406574

I like buff Eigo!
No. 133370 ID: ac70ae

I second your sentiment! She looks awesome!

Looking at how tall she is relative to Thad makes me wonder what the height distribution is for Eigo males and females. Is she unusually tall, Thad unusually short, or is it both?
No. 133374 ID: 11f77a

In my head just unusually tall. Like you often get tall women irl. Small hiccups in genetics like that or something. Who you'd find as a cheerleader vs. women's basketball.

I'd like to draw this Eigo again in the future too! So I'm glad y'all like her.
No. 133375 ID: 9ea12c

Hell yeah! You gave her a name yet?
No. 133377 ID: 11f77a

I haven't! I've been jumbling around some ideas for a name (but nothing concrete). And seems I've thought of her past already--whoops!
No. 133381 ID: 4a9aa5

Glad to hear you're gonna do more with her! Maybe she could be a background character in-quest.
No. 133386 ID: 11f77a
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Buff goat returns to argue with Key about some dodgeball rules! Also inclined to name her 'River' as her main name and 'Styx' as her nickname.
No. 133387 ID: 9ea12c

What is Kay angry about? Sore loser?
No. 133389 ID: 11f77a
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March's blooper for Patreon fans! Hang in there, Gurrich!

She's always angry 'bout something. Maybe River throws too hard.
No. 133390 ID: 11f77a
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Njar talks about her biggest love interest. Seems like they didn't really have a good influence on one another.
No. 133447 ID: 11f77a
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She's stuck. Send help =C
No. 133448 ID: 11f77a
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Tongues! Sajjas tongues can grab, btw. Ya know... to hold onto food.
No. 133502 ID: 11f77a
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I finally got around to (what I hope to be) the final draft of the planned graphic novel. The dropbox link should work and there is a way to download the pdf in the sidebar somewhere. There's still a bit of character design and concept art to do before I start illustrating the first page. Enjoy!

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hkmsynjb5pqvbs5/TPE101_script.pdf?dl=0
No. 133844 ID: 11f77a
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Driga looks back on what prompted her to go merc.
No. 133845 ID: 11f77a
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So I'm starting to allow random ideas (sfw) for the characters in my universe. Someone requested Key with one of Veisar's legs for some unusual purpose. Hmmm...
No. 133911 ID: 11f77a
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New quest idea. Huron High School with all your favorite mercs!
No. 134237 ID: 11f77a
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Veisar, Victor, and Cybil all answer short questions from September's poll!
No. 134426 ID: 11f77a
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October's question!
No. 134548 ID: 11f77a
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I seem to have forgotten this one as well
No. 134549 ID: 11f77a
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Ortessus is finishing up her demolitions test. She seems to have everything under control.
Huge blooper dump thanks to the Patreon members who make it possible! Join my Patreon to suggest more stuff and vote for things!
No. 134550 ID: 11f77a
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Egads! Looks like she got the riddle mixed up. Although it's not entirely her fault for how stupid the memorizations are...
No. 134551 ID: 11f77a
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Ortessus gets a rude awakening from her Cnidarian friend, Husk.
No. 134552 ID: 11f77a
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Njar shouldn't be standing anywhere near Sertis' acid tank in a bullet fight.
No. 134553 ID: 11f77a
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You can't blame Arthocobs who suffer from vestiphagia: the desire to eat fabrics. Poor Njar for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
No. 134554 ID: 11f77a
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Njar is still losing her clothes! At least she has Veisar to help sew them back together in the heat of battle.
No. 134555 ID: 11f77a
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Hold on for dear life Driga!
No. 134556 ID: 11f77a
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Ortessus vs. Njar.
Thanks to her quick crafting knowledge to make a claymore mine out of some tape, a glove, and a claymore mine--Ortessus has blasted all of Njar's clothes off.
No. 134557 ID: 11f77a
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Key vs. Holster
Even though Holster can zip around, guns blazing and making the room seem like a total bullet Hell, Key seems to predict where he'll end up thanks to her keen senses in her whiskers.
No. 134558 ID: 11f77a
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Driga vs. Veisar
Well Driga, you should've worn the necessary equipment before fighting on Veisar's turf. With a well placed drill her clothes have been yanked clean off!

That's all for now folks!
No. 134559 ID: 11f77a
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This Christmas I'm allowing everyone to vote for the next battle with three remaining contestants! You can vote multiple characters here in this strawpoll. No idea when I'll close it. Who do you want to see naked?! https://www.strawpoll.me/42332278
No. 134728 ID: f3f534

Why is it called Arthocob Date quest when there hasn't been any actual dating in the quest at all? Why are we having to run from weird cultists? None of this makes any sense! This isn't a date quest, it's just a regular quest! I feel like I've been lied to!
No. 134729 ID: b1b4f3

I think Sarco got distracted by the allure of spooky shit.
I'm more irritated that the central religious conflict is lacking details. We know almost nothing about either deity.
No. 134736 ID: 11f77a

>Why spooky? This isn’t a date quest, it’s just a regular quest.
Serious answer? I can’t help but worldbuild. And I like worldbuilding. I added a story to it instead of a simple, straight-forward guaranteed secks no-wrong-answers quest. It began as something I had zero forethought and I didn’t give a shit. Now I do and I’d prefer stakes being played. Characters being built up instead of mere robots. Go (re)read Chupian Date Quest for that.

When will the dating begin? Probably chapter 3. Chapter 2 (at the time of this post) has a third left to complete. What’s happening is important to future events.

>Sarco got distracted by the allure of spooky shit.
I wouldn’t call it a distraction. Lovecraftian stuff is fun.

>We know almost nothing about either deity
Hmm, I’ll reread what the chapters have so far and list here. Perhaps an update is an order for the glossary in the wiki: https://questden.org/wiki/Arthocob_Date_Quest
• Arthocobs are polytheistic. Their bible is called the Voxxus Neb [>>/questarch/918235]. All followers use the same book--which can be interpreted differently depending on who you ask. There’s no Book of Bhothogoshol or Book of Ndepthteph [>>/quest/977531].
Bhothogoshol, also known as the Great Flying Rod, sheds life from its husk [>>/questarch/902219] A Goddess of Life [>>/questarch/934906] And non-violent [>>/questarch/918235] Ganymede defends her purpose to a mad preacher [>>/questarch/935410].
• [>>/questarch/932913] Voxxus is another world for ‘universe’. Here, the mad preacher talks about the creation of the universe made from the back of a great cosmic centipede, Relik. Relik had two children, Bhothogoshol represents life, and Ndepthteph (also known as the Death Worm) represents anti-life. In the beginning there was anti-life, nothing, and some people are angry Bhothogoshol did something about it. In the nightmare, a variation of Kyzil taunts Eudora with the false belief of Bhothogoshol [>>/questarch/949287] Life is pain, yo.
Bogn is a fabled warrior. Also known as The Herald [>>/questarch/937605] I guess he’s on the same level as Jesus and carried an amber trumpet which was also a weapon. He practically became a demigod when he entered heaven, known as the Amber City, or Rac-Naquaghu [>>/questarch/936095] More info on him explained by Ganymede himself [>>/questarch/938524]
Mi-Yok, sometimes known as husks, are like ghosts of bad Arthocobs. They cry and walk around in circles for eternity. They’ll do anything to feel better. An empty shell of their former selves. “…lost spirits from the husks of treacherous creatures…” Ganymede even mentions something about them on his delivery walk [>>/quest/961728]
• There are other gods and goddesses too but so far not introduced properly.

That’s about Arthocob Religion 101
No. 134737 ID: b1b4f3

Okay, but why is Ndepthteph worshipped? Why is Bhothogoshol hated? Is there any direct conflict between the two gods? Do the gods communicate with their followers at all? What are the gods' personalities?
No. 134739 ID: 11f77a

I'm unsure how to answer this properly. Because there are questions that don't matter, and answers that take real-life elements into account.

Why do people worship Ndepthteph? Well... why do people worship any God at all? Why do evil cultists in Lovecraft worship Cthulhu and whatnot?

Why is Bhothogoshol hated? "They stand against everything you stand for." Well let's see. Why would a follower of the Death Worm hate the great Flying Rod of life? Okay, there's probably a deeper reasoning than that--something that is woven into the lives of their believers. But I don't like to be blunt. [X] because [Y]. I like writing for people who can connect the dots and do the research themselves. And for those who can't (or won't or have no time to) do that--that's absolutely fine! You can read it without understanding 100% of their religion because it's not vital. Bhothogoshol good. Ndepthteph bad. How far is Ganymede going just to have Eudora say 'yes' to a date while there are other conflicting things going on?

I like to add mystery and have little clues come up bit by bit. And I know some readers want to know the intricate details of the Arthocob lore (or the entire Team Port Echo universe). If it's important, it will be answered in the future.
No. 134742 ID: b1b4f3

Just because you follow a god of death doesn't mean you hate the god of life. Life does not exist without death, and vice versa. I don't really get the whole "anti-life" thing especially considering Ndepthteph is depicted as a worm, which is a living organism, but I do know that if the worship of her revolves around the fact that life as we know it came about in opposition to her, it'd be more like worshipping the concept of emptiness, or wishing that life did not exist to begin with. And that's not exactly a religion that would inspire fanaticism without also inspiring mass suicide or open war. A religion that wants to remove all life would outlaw reproduction, as well, which means their numbers would go down fairly quickly over time.

Yeah, sure, clues. I'm sorry but that's just not a good method of explaining lore that gives needed context to an existing conflict when the lore involved is something the main character should know. We should at least know the basics, and despite my repeated attempts to get ganymede to fucking SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I don't know the basics. For example, before you explicitly said that Ndepthteph is the goddess of anti-life I just thought she was the first to be born. The first life, not some kind of paradoxical life that is also anti-life.
No. 134751 ID: 16d082

I’m really enjoying this worldbuilding
I wonder, do Arthocobs have cults placing emphasis on specific deities, such as the Romans had? The preacher from the first thread being crazy and clearly unwelcome in the village makes it seem that the worship of Ndepthteph is a fringe belief if not outright heresy, but he could still just be an outlier in a larger, more moderate religious faction.
though, granted, the nihilistic worship of inevitability and death itself probably doesn’t have broad appeal.
No. 135269 ID: 11f77a
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Today may or may not be a coincidence.
No. 135277 ID: f9464a

So when are we going to finally get back to the dating part of the quest?
No. 135278 ID: 11f77a

I promise there's only... 3% left of the current thread. And then the actual dating part will happen.

I understand how dumb it may be now, I couldn't help myself but try and establish a looming conflict that will affect everyone as the story rolls on. I've had readers who both like the direction it's going--but still speak up about its misleading title.

Arthocob Date began as something out of the blue with no thought for its future. But as all things I create--I start piling stuff on top to give it more... life?

Anyway, Ganymede will be able to date next thread. And it won't have to be exclusively to Eudora. Promise.
No. 135399 ID: 830459

Some comments about HURON:

The good:
- the art is sexy
- the setting is great
- the character design is cool
- the writing is okay

The bad:
- the updates are inconsistent
- the story pacing is too slow
- the battle design is poor
- no information choices

There's too much micromanagement in the way the fighting system is designed. If even the tutorial battle takes 30+ updates, then I think that, realistically, the prospect of you ever finishing this quest is unlikely. I would suggest making the battles shorter and streamlining the updates so that each update processes multiple actions and includes multiple panels. You may need to sacrifice some of the art and writing quality for the update speed, but I think it would help with the story pacing and keeping the readers interested. I think a good balance would be if the fights took 30-50% of the total updates in the quest. Even if the whole point of this quest is the clothing damage, not everyone needs to end up completely naked in every battle. The "brace for impact" system, from my point of view, feels too random to be an interesting part of the quest - 4v4 equals 1 in 16 chance of correct guess, and since there's little to no information to go on, it's more or less of a dice roll. But even if we had good information, would we really want to prevent our characters from losing their clothes? :p
No. 135401 ID: 11f77a

Thank you for the comments! I will put them into consideration. I know I've been... hobbling along with this quest. Perhaps with all my current quests for that matter. I could spend a long time making excuses why the 'bad' is the way it is but...

Looking forward, after the current battle, I'll finish the chapter there. And my quests (when their current chapters are done) will go through an overhaul before the next thread.

I believe in Huron, and believe it can last a good while. The journey, however, is bumpy. I'm thankful to have people stick around this long.
No. 135402 ID: e85a08

>The "brace for impact" system, from my point of view, feels too random to be an interesting part of the quest - 4v4 equals 1 in 16 chance of correct guess, and since there's little to no information to go on, it's more or less of a dice roll. But even if we had good information, would we really want to prevent our characters from losing their clothes? :p
I figured that was the point of the bracing for impact thing, in that you're supposed to choose the character you want to see naked the least.
No. 135480 ID: 11f77a
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I felt like drawing up something special, here's Driga and Yamelle--the only official moms I have so far!
No. 135649 ID: 11f77a
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I feel it's a good time to talk a bit on my current quests so far.

Now that the second chapter of Arthocob Date is done, I'll be sure to nudge it in the right direction of its namesake. Before chapter 3 though, I can focus on finishing the first thread for HURON and get The Vitruvian over with. And then have a clean slate again.

At this point, both remaining quests are seeing what works and what doesn't--and figuring out rules as they come along. So it's like... season one where it may have neat ideas but it'll hopefully get better next season. When their threads are finished I'm going to try to remain at one or two quests at a time--but the temptation to make Chupian Date Quest II or something new entirely is strong.

I'm figuring out ways to fix combat. Everyone has ACs but perhaps I made them a bit too high (because I have other modifiers like STR or DEX). So it's going to feel inconsistent in the middle of the current battle. I'm thinking of changing it to an attack roll vs. defense roll so things move faster. And I've been thinking ahead how to increase story elements with just a little combat.

It's a fun demo so far. It's a quest for me to figure out the best rules to make as I move along. I didn't warn anyone what those rules are on purpose, in fact. I wanted a natural reaction to the current situation to survive vs. knowing the game and how to exploit it or use some meta-gaming strategy. Will a full quest happen? Perhaps. It's a concept (readers vs. protagonist) I would love to delve deeper into. Seeing how I want to limit myself to 2 quests it may be a while.

At the same time I'm drawing the Team Port Echo graphic novel, finally. Picture related.

Thank you for being patient as well.
No. 136092 ID: 11f77a
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I always wanted to do this.
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No. 136098 ID: 528dad

Ah this brings back memories!
No. 136102 ID: 2aa5f0

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