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952412 No. 952412 ID: 53b212

https://homebrewdeviants.com/forum/Thread-TINY-CAT-PEOPLE-VOID-SESSION-INTERMISSION-HARK hosted primarily on the HD forums- will update + take suggestions here, but a day later!
PAST THREADS: https://questden.org/wiki/Tiny_Cat_People

You are VOIDSY, and you are currently in an enemy TCP’s head. Your newfound nemesis, the very dog you’re trying to strike down, is in front of you as well, looming over her TCP with a wicked grin.

SPIT: So this is what happens when you mix up two communication items...interesting, interesting.
SPIT: Veeeery interesting.
SPIT: You know, I should thank you.

She reaches forward and pats Hark on the head, the TCP trying not to flinch.

SPIT: You just helped me figure out a lil’ ol’ trick for other sessions!
SPIT: Who knows what kinds of shit I can pull off like this.
SPIT: Face to face...is it everything you hoped, collective?
SPIT: Are you gonna be brave, say I’m ugly, say you hate me, that you’re gonna win and be the big badass of this story?
SPIT: Or are you gonna flirt with me again, breaking my poor lil’ sister’s heart?
VOIDSY: ...sister?
SPIT: Oh, she didn’t tell you? That’s a real shame…
SPIT: Then again, everything about that little wretch is!

She cackles, and you feel your paws clench into fists.
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No. 953024 ID: 0e55f9

"Whatever it takes to win?" HeheheheheHAHAHAHAHAHA! I bet Spit failed to tell you, Hark, you can win while Spit loses. If you wish to win, you've chosen a bad side. Mine has superior numbers, one of which already crushed you. If you'll really do "whatever it takes to win", you'll join me. Sure, it'll hurt to leave your dear Spit, but, hey, "whatever it takes to win".
No. 953028 ID: 10c408

Oh for goodness sake that is exactly the kind of shit that counts as "don't run your mouth" that we were just warned about and is only going to make spit hurt hark even more.

So let's not say that.

my suggestion is to split our focus in two before we lose control over ourselves.

One focus is to keep examining the void of this space. Can we make part of ourselves that spit can't directly see blend in with the void surrounding everyone present? If so, good. We can work with that shortly.

Second focus is on the smoke that Spit just blew at us. I don't like it and I definitely don't trust it.
No. 953037 ID: 6c227a

"Oh Hark, no.
"This bleeding heart over here KNOWS you can take it. You are strong, and clever, and willful. You have to be, to withstand what Spit does.
"Our heart bleeds because we are sad that you MUST take it. We want you to be safe, and comfortable, and happy. You deserve so much better than cruelty.
"Our bleeding heart yearns for the ending where everyone wins. We want all of you cats to come out of this alive, and together, and family. You are the only one here who has the power to make that happen, Hark."

Mechanics text says "If you do not focus on the current situation, or try to split your focus..." and you have suggested that we do both of those things. Nah, chill and focus.
No. 953040 ID: 91ee5f

Please no.

This would be ok if you worded it differently, so that it doesn’t sound like we’re some kinda maniac.

>my suggestion is to split our focus in two before we lose control over ourselves.
We were told to not split our focus, so why are you suggesting we split our focus? Let’s not do that.

This sounds good.
No. 953043 ID: 8d23f0

slap this mask
No. 953045 ID: 3ce8ff

No split focus. Keep focus.
No. 953048 ID: a9af05

"Spit, why do you fill Hark's head full of lies? We both know that you abuse her because you want to control her and make her fear you. If you were actually making her tougher, then we wouldn't have been able to capture her. But we know that if Hark decides to go rogue, you couldn't do anything to her."

"That's right Hark. If you decide to leave Spit's team, she can't do anything to you. And you can still win, while Spit loses."
No. 953049 ID: 1d7c77

Focus. Spit knows that self-control, keeping ourselves together, is a weakness for us. Don't let her split us up. That's what she wants. Stay calm. Discord is our domain, but it's Hark who needs it, now. Take that feeling of falling apart, the loudness and the cacophony, and push it away. It is Discord, it is part of us, and that means it is on our side. Even if we don't succeed with Hark, the longer we engage Spit's attention, the better. Our allies outnumber hers. Every moment we hold on is a victory. We are doing a good job.

Now, if you want an idea... it's unpleasant, but we know someone who Spit might have tried this on before. So, still talking to Hark, ask: "Do you think this is the same routine she did with Wretch?"

Spit seems to have trained Hark to think pain is good. Ok, then: that means Hark will be more open to painful and unpleasant ideas. Spit's history is painful and unpleasant, for sure. Spit also seems to have been trying to tell Hark the TCP is special to her. We can take down that notion first. She already mentioned Wretch with Hark listening, so she can't deny not knowing her or having a prior relationship. So she either avoids the subject entirely, which will sow a seed of doubt with Hark, or she admits it and goes for some pitch like "Wretch was too weak/a failure/etc", in which case we can respond: Wretch is a god, the same order of being as Spit, and Hark is a Tiny Cat Person. How does Spit think a TCP can handle what a god can't? She might try to use the opportunity to make us say things Wretch wouldn't want us to say, and cause problems that way, so make sure to watch what we say.

Regardless of the outcome of the conversation, so long as we can bring up something that Hark doesn't know already, we can use it to point out that there's a lot about the world Hark doesn't know. If Spit is ultimately right, learning new things shouldn't be a problem at all, right? Knowledge is strength.

Also, if Spit wants a horrible-off, we can probably start talking about terrible Earth things to demonstrate that we're not innocent or untouched in terms of painful experience. Bonus to that is we might be able to fascinate Spit with tales of new terrible concepts and keep her occupied that way, too.
No. 953051 ID: 10c408

Because we can either examine this space of existence and maybe find an exploit or loophole relevant to our aspects to isolate Spit from hark before talking to either of them, do literally nothing or talking to both of them with Spit clearly threatening to torture Hark right in front of us if we say anything that she doesn't want to hear at all.

But you are right, trying to split our attention when so many others are trying to trash talk spit is a bad idea, so I'm going to retract my earlier suggestion and put my weight behind this one.

I'd rather examine the void around us, but you have my support instead.
No. 953062 ID: 73feaa

Definitely think this is the right track. Spit's not too susceptible to our bullshit, but we don't need to mess with her anyway.

"Hark, we don't know what you've been through or what you've done, but you've got to be tough as nails to endure Spit, nevermind being badass enough to scare us the way you did.

Cards on the table; we can't make you do anything in here, can't trick you into anything you don't want to do because Spit is miles better at it than we are.
Spit's got us beat at any mindgames, it's correct that she does have us as a captive audience right now.

But Hark, you don't need us to tell you what's going on here: She needs you, not the other way around. As much of a bind as she has us in, you have her in a tighter one cause she can't win the game with no cats, and you have the option of deciding you don't want her riding on your coattails to stay in the game.

She knows it, we know it, we think you know it and don't know what stops you from letting her know you're more than her number 1. She'd have exactly as long as it took you to tell her to fuck off to fit in a tantrum before you were a rogue free from her influence.

If you do that, you don't need to shack up with us if you don't want to, you could go do your own thing... But Buddy wanted you to have that choice."
No. 953065 ID: d454d4

Shut Up Stupid Thoughts!

I agree with this, though if it fails or Spit starts tearing into Hark physically, I would rather just cut the connection on Voidsy's end.
No. 953070 ID: 223f6b

I worry anything we say will just get immediately get cut off or overwhelmed by spits own voice. This whole thing could be moot if hark is set in her ways.

Hark, why do you look so scared if this is all that matters? Why aren't you smiling?

Why won't you look your mother in the eye, the face even, when she talks to you?

Why does anything she says even matter? What does winning even mean to you? Is it worth your life? Worth giving it up for her?

Real freedom to do whatever you want is just beyond this mask spit made for you.

You just have to take it off.
No. 953089 ID: ce39da

I’m not so sure about that plan; it’s been made clear that Hark’s been conditioned to accept pain, meaning that if you stop to think about it, all threats of torturing Hark have just had the bottom taken out of them. Hark will accept the torture as a “winning tactic” so the best thing to do is to not let that tactic win.
No. 953122 ID: 3ed3c3

We need to shake Hark's faith in Spit.
What are some of Spit's weaknesses?
We know that Rein is one of them, and that Spit hates not being taken seriously.
We need to slam those hot buttons until Spit is shook.
No. 953202 ID: 440efb

Fuck this, command Dad - or anyone who can get to it - to take the mask off.
We still need to save Eastwood's TCP.
No. 953510 ID: 53b212
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Spit can’t be reasoned with...Hark is suffering...clearly the answer is simple!

Just...kill Hark! You can put her out of her misery, she’ll no longer suffer, Spit will be outnumbered…

One of your masks starts laughing uncontrollably before you can stop it, loud and almost maniacal.
No. 953511 ID: 53b212
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You grab the laughing mask in both hands, holding it tight. It keeps laughing despite your efforts to silence it. You need to calm down, get those kinds of thoughts out of your head...Hark is already tied up and restrained. She’s helpless, and killing her would be declaring her a lost cause. It’d traumatize your TCPs and horrify all your friends.

You need to trust that the rest of the team can contain Hark, and that even if this doesn’t work out here, the longer you can distract Spit, the better.

You outnumber her.

You are doing a good job.
No. 953512 ID: 53b212
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Spit knows that self control is your weakness.

No splitting up focus. No getting distracted.

You shatter the mask, silencing it.

You’re going to take your domain and use it to win.
No. 953513 ID: 53b212
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VOIDSY: This bleeding heart over here knows you can take this kind of pain.
VOIDSY: You have to be strong to withstand what Spit does.
VOIDSY: But our heart bleeds because we’re sad that you MUST take it.
VOIDSY: She’s not hurting you to make her tougher, she’s hurting you because it makes her happy.
VOIDSY: This is what she does to people, she makes them into toys that are unable to go against her.
VOIDSY: That’s what she’s doing to you, Hark.
HARK: No! I am not a toy!
VOIDSY: You shouldn’t have to be.
VOIDSY: We’re sure you can handle a lot of cruelty, but you deserve better than that.
VOIDSY: You shouldn’t have to suffer or feel pain to prove yourself.
HARK: And I don’t need to prove myself to you either!
HARK: I’m in control of myself, me! And this is what I want!
VOIDSY: But how did it feel when you hurt Buddy?
VOIDSY: Did you feel like you had to do it, or you’d be hurt again?
VOIDSY: Did you feel happy that you had the power to choose its fate?
HARK: And so what if I did, huh? So what if I LIKED it, if I LIKED hurting that little shit?
VOIDSY: Well, even then…
VOIDSY: Buddy wants to be your friend. It wants to show you something beyond this hurt, the kind of hurt that Spit wishes on anyone she sees.
VOIDSY: It knows that you have good in you.

HARK: This is all that matters! All that ever has!
VOIDSY: Then why do you look so scared?
VOIDSY: Why don’t you look your mother in the eye when she talks to you?
VOIDSY: Is winning really worth giving up your life for her?
VOIDSY: And if Spit is so big, so strong, so brave, such a leader, why is she hiding behind you?
VOIDSY: Why is she using you as a shield?
VOIDSY: She’s willing to sacrifice you, Hark!
VOIDSY: That’s not something you do to someone you care about.
No. 953514 ID: 53b212
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VOIDSY: Our bleeding heart yearns for the ending where everyone wins.
VOIDSY: We want everyone to come out of this alive, including you and all the others.
VOIDSY: We want people to be a family together-
HARK: Family! Yeah, right!
HARK: Real cute after you did exactly what Spit told me you would.
VOIDSY: We didn’t want to hurt you!
HARK: But you did! You...you fucked up my hand!
HARK: You talk about sacrifices and shit but you were just as willing to throw me under the bus as long as it meant keeping your precious cat safe!
HARK: In your words, that’s not something you do to someone you care about.
HARK: Right?
VOIDSY: We, we don’t want you to get hurt, and we don’t think you’re weak…
VOIDSY: We’re really sorry that we attacked you, and we healed you after because we do, honestly and truly, care about you.
VOIDSY: That’s why we’re here now.

VOIDSY: She needs you, Hark. Not the other way around.
VOIDSY: You’ve got us in a hell of a bind right now, but you have her in a tighter one. She can’t win the game with no cats, and you have the option of deciding to leave.
VOIDSY: If you leave Spit’s team, she can’t do anything to you.
VOIDSY: And you get to win. She loses.

Hark says nothing, the silence uncomfortable and almost suffocating. You wait for a response, and when none comes, you carry on, doing your best to remain calm and collected.

VOIDSY: If you do leave, you don’t have to shack up with us, not if you don’t want to.
VOIDSY: You could go do your own thing, anything you want.
VOIDSY: ...Buddy wanted you to have that choice.

Only a moment passes before Spit’s laughing, a raspy wheeze that turns into high pitched cackling, her entire body shaking and making horrible crunching, snapping sounds.

SPIT: Boy, you sure know how to give a speech!
SPIT: And you know what, Hark, you can leave!
SPIT: They’re right! You can just walk on out. Go ahead. Go with them.
SPIT: But I’ll always be here! Always here, right in your cute lil’ head.
SPIT: Forever!
SPIT: You know that. You know that real good by now, yeah?
HARK: ...yeah. I know.
SPIT: The difference is…
SPIT: I could be the little angel on your shoulder, tellin you how to get through this and win....
SPIT: Or I stick around and be a real hell of a devil.

SPIT: You’ll make the right decision, won’t you, kid?
No. 953518 ID: 6c227a

Is that your best offer, Spit? A choice between leaving and spending the rest of her life dealing with the scars you have already inflicted, or staying with you and letting you keep digging your hooks in deeper, stringing her along with tiny barbs of kindness to distract from all the suffering? Make it seem like it's her fault when you hurt her? It's for her own good, right? Bullshit. No wonder even your own sister doesn't want to be around you any more. And now you're trying to pass your dark world view on to this wonderful little cat person.

Who hurt you, Spit? Who taught you to hurt others before they can hurt you?
No. 953525 ID: 10c408

Alright, call Spit out on her bullshit. We haven't lied to Hark's face and neither should she. State this as such, but do NOT mention what specifically Spit just said that is a lie unless she hurts Hark more.

If she does then use the properties of the mask of courage to either kick Spit out of the call or embolden Hark while trash talking Spit's recent string of losses.
No. 953531 ID: 3ed3c3

Spit must be desperate if she's clinging to Hark like this. Her other cats have all been incapacitated, captured, or swayed. She knows that if her last cat is defeated or betrays her, she loses the game.
I don't think she expected things to turn out this way, with all of our forces steamrolling her base. There remains a possibility that he's set up some kind of contingency or failsafe in case she starts to lose, but we can't worry about that at the moment.
Hark doesn't trust us, but she's terrified of Spit. We need to convince her that there is a way to escape Spit for good. The best way to do that is to undermine her faith in Spit. We need to point out the fallacies here, use logic and reason to punch holes in Spit's thinking, and show Hark that Spit is fallible and can be defeated.
No. 953535 ID: 10c408

They have to be killed, or go rogue. Knocking some of them unconscious and taking one of them prisoner does NOT count.
No. 953536 ID: 3ed3c3

Be that as it may, Spit is still on the ropes, and we need that last big push to make the win.
No. 953548 ID: 10c408

Yes, but as the saying goes "don't bite off more than you can chew."

Flipping Hark isn't set in stone just yet, and not all of her TCP's that got briefly stunned are gonna stay down. We started this engagement off from a terrible position and it is only through a combination of luck, insistence that adoration can happen in a murderfort and magic item bullshittery that we've managed to dramatically improve the current state of things to a slight stand still that could still swing against our favor.

I'm gonna list a bunch of stuff in the disthread on WHY we shouldn't knock spit out here and now.
No. 953560 ID: 18c161

You're forgetting the 5th cat we haven't seen yet. I really hope everyone outside is securing the area where Hark is right, it'd suck if we came back to a mess.
As for pointing out fallacies in what Spit's saying, well, consider why we'd be doing that. We already know Spit is wrong, it wouldn't exactly be a back-and-forth kinda thing. We'd be doing it to try to convince Hark, but I don't think Hark was really swayed to Spit's side through argument in the first place.
I think her reluctance to leave is probably a lot more emotional in origin, not based on what Spit has claimed to be true but on what Spit has done to and for Hark. Logically countering Spit's general worldview will probably be too abstract to really convince Hark of much, because I think she already knows to some degree that Spit is cruel and likes inflicting pain, and she would prefer if she wasn't treated this way.
Right now, I don't think there's much more point to convincing her that Spit is bad. What would be better is to respond to her, focus on are concrete ways of giving her a way out, improving her situation, or at least getting her to think about possibilities other than a life under Spit.
There were two main points in our speech that she had issues with: Firstly, she was protesting that she was in control of herself and acting how she wanted. Secondly, she was angry at us for attacking her to save Buddy. We might want to address these. (Although if she actually genuinely enjoyed hurting Buddy then... geeze, that's not something we can just solve. Maybe tell her about things she can do that she'd probably enjoy more that don't involve hurting other people.)
No. 953561 ID: 91ee5f

Guys? Calm down! Remember, we need to stay focused or we’ll lose control! We’ve gotta agree on what we need to do, instead of listing a bunch of different things and arguing with each other on who has the better idea!

Maybe it would be better if we all went to the disthread and talked it out there? That way any arguing over there won’t affect Voidsy over here in the main thread.

>You're forgetting the 5th cat we haven't seen yet.
Are you sure? I thought we met them all?

Jasper stunned one of them, Writhe is with our TCPs, we’re currently talking to Hark, and then we captured the other 2 when they foolishly reached into the bags of holding and got yanked through. At least I think that’s all of them, I could be wrong.
No. 953562 ID: ed8383

To have that woman's voice in your head and resist it will just make you more alive than most. To be alive to suffer, to be born is to die. But to find meaning, purpose, in that suffering is how you truly live.

You've come to an ultimatum, hark, and I'll honor your decision. Just know that should you choose the path your on as that meaning you will soon undoubtedly be called upon to defend your purpose with your life.
No. 953573 ID: 10c408

Writhe (flipped, needs to be taught how to go rogue properly), hark (prisoner in spit's base), raw (stunned/missing), chops (prisoner in our base) and ???
No. 953614 ID: 944f3b

>SPIT: So this is what happens when you mix up two communication items...interesting, interesting.
>SPIT: But I’ll always be here! Always here, right in your cute lil’ head.

Wait, did Spit implant the communication item? That'd be an issue to say the least.
No. 953618 ID: 10c408

The other communication item on Hark was brought up in the discussion thread, which no one evidently bothers to read.
No. 954129 ID: 53b212
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VOIDSY: Is that your best offer, Spit?
VOIDSY: You’re making her choose between leaving and spending the rest of her life dealing with the damage you’ve done, or staying with you and letting you make things worse and worse.
VOIDSY: You’re making it seem like it’s her fault when you hurt her- it’s for her own good, right?
VOIDSY: Bullshit.
VOIDSY: No wonder your own sister doesn’t want to be around you anymore.
VOIDSY: Who hurt you, Spit?
VOIDSY: Who taught you to hurt others before they can hurt you?

Spit snorts, unable to hold her snickering back.
SPIT: Who hurt me?
SPIT: You looking for a tragic backstory? Somebody had to go and mess me up and now I’m bad.
SPIT: That’s how it works, right? You’re gonna crack me open and figure out just what makes me so terrible, and then fix me right up. Save me, even!
SPIT: That’s you. The hero of the story.
SPIT: You know what, hero? Go ahead and ask whatever you want to cute lil’ Hark here.
SPIT: Let’s see how you do.

Well...it’s a patronizing opportunity, but it’s an opportunity.

VOIDSY: Hark...you’re working with Wax’s TCPs, right?
VOIDSY: Have you met any of them?
VOIDSY: What did they seem like?
VOIDSY: How did they treat you and each other?

Hark doesn’t respond, avoiding eye contact.

VOIDSY:...Is there anything we can do for you?

It seems like Hark’s going to answer for just a moment, but you see Spit squeeze her, leaving deep scratches across her arm.
No. 954130 ID: 53b212
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You can feel your anger rising up, but it’s not the time- you need to focus and keep it from overcoming you. Hark needs you right now.

VOIDSY: Even if Spit dedicates her time to spitefully haunting you, there are people who are willing to keep you safe, Hark.
VOIDSY: We hate her, not just our collective but so many others.
VOIDSY: There are entire pantheons of gods who can’t stand Spit.
VOIDSY: You wouldn’t have to be alone.

Hark looks at you hesitantly, slowly moving to face you.
VOIDSY: What Spit has done to you will always be there.
VOIDSY: She may be like a mother to you, but she doesn’t act like a good one.
VOIDSY: It’s never easy to get over that.
VOIDSY: You may not have a choice right now, but we can help you get there.

She makes eye contact, and for a second you think you can almost see hope.

VOIDSY: Spit made these collars that make it so that gods can’t communicate with their TCPs while they’re wearing them. We have a few of them already.
VOIDSY: We could give one to you.
VOIDSY: No more gods in your head.
VOIDSY: Writhe already chose to wear one, so we know it works.
VOIDSY: Just let us know.

The hope is gone as soon as it came, her head falling.

SPIT: Awww, you went and got her hopes up.
SPIT: Fraid that’s not gonna work, kitty cat.

She moves her hand away from Hark’s throat, leaving scratches behind across her chest.

SPIT: Try to take this bad boy off and-

She drags a glass claw across the collar, making a horrible grinding sound.

SPIT: Off with her head!
No. 954142 ID: 10c408

Why didn't we call spit out on her obvious lie? Inspiring doubt in Hark about Spit is the best thing we can do in this situation.

"Well, I suppose since changing collars is off the table I guess I'll have to go with the backup plan for ensuring that you can't talk to your tcp's while they get convinced to abandon you and taught the particulars on how to do so."

She's trying to rattle us again, stay focused.

"Oh, and Spit? If Hark dies solely because of YOU I'm going to ensure that my tcp's and whichever ones of yours are left get to dance and frolic over the razed remains of your fortress before we kick you out of the game for good."

We've done what we can, we need to return our attention to make sure that we can get everyone out of her murderfort as quickly as possible.
No. 954145 ID: bc2d46

"Listen. Spit sucks. You know it, I know it. She sucks the big one. If all else fails, if somehow your fears are right and she'll never truly leave, there's at least one fallback you can have if you leave her control. You can spite her. Her and her big stupid, ugly, shitty mouth. You can live in a way where you dont just go along with the plans of someone who clearly sucks way worse than you or I ever could. All she's got is talk. Take away everything else and she's just a chump who can only run her mouth all day. You're better than she is. She needs you, you don't need her. So if you can't bring yourself to believe we'll shut her up for good one day, at least you can spite a shitty, stupid person and go out better than she could ever hope to be."
No. 954146 ID: bc2d46

suggestion, y'all:
let's not speak to spit directly anymore. don't acknowledge her being there. everything we say will be directly to hark.
No. 954170 ID: 18c161

Wait, what lie are you talking about?
No. 954173 ID: 10c408

"But I’ll always be here! Always here, right in your cute lil’ head." is the lie I am referring to.

if Hark goes rogue (or has communication blocked off via items, though I am assuming that communication blocking overrides things that enable communication), then Spit doesn't get to be in Hark's head anymore.

And hark doesn't know.
No. 954177 ID: 8d23f0

laugh joyously for we already have many many ways around that but we dont need to let SPit know that and it undermines her just as well.
No. 954179 ID: 91ee5f

>Try to take this bad boy off and-
>Off with her head!
Oh, is that all? Believe it or not, we’ve actually got something for that. We can put Hark into our Upload/Download Machine back at our base and give her a new body. Her old body will keep the collar while her new body won’t have a collar!

If it worked for Seaspray, then it can work for Hark!

No. 954222 ID: f88a6c

>our Upload/Download Machine back at our base and give her a new body.
>"ensuring that you can't talk to your tcp's while they get convinced to abandon you and taught the particulars on how to do so."

Please stop giving away details. Spit will use them. Be vague.
No. 954223 ID: d454d4

This is a good point, going rogue would at least diminish the connection, but I think it result in Spit using violent methods to maintain relevance and keep the connection, sort of like what she is doing now.

Outside of the upload/download machine, we have two other options that aren't being examined.

Form types like Bryce can turn things into the item that their type is, a piece of driftwood stuck on Hark seems less dangerous to remove, or you could turn Hark with it to incapacitate her while you do it.
This is immediate and would also put any issues with curses out of the picture for a while, But Spit would see it coming through Hark and her base viewpoint.

We have a mask which turns TCPs liquid like Wretch, you could pull the collar off them, or run them through an opening smaller than the collar to remove it.
I don't think it would be sensible to do it in Spit's base, but I assume we could sell the mask to Spit as our comms item for Wretch. Would would allow for consensual, easy, risk-free removal.

Seriously, we have many options here, we just need to shut Spit's taunting down and confirm we can do this with Hark, and then we can get back to making things are set up to get all the TCPs out of Spit's base.
No. 954241 ID: 91ee5f

I put it under spoilers, Spit can’t see them.
No. 954245 ID: ce39da

"We have multiple ways of bypassing that issue entirely. Some have more risks than others, but Hark will have her pick of what we do about this in the end."
No. 954246 ID: 10c408

Uh. First off, hark's wearing a communication item that can also kill her apparently. Going rogue might not change that. Secondly if Hark does go rogue then the normal connection between her and spit is broken entirely.
No. 954248 ID: 1d7c77

The only thing in this game that can kill a TCP is another TCP who's been given the KILL command. A god can't kill their own TCPs on their own, even with an item set up to do it automatically somehow. Attempts will still hurt, of course, but they'll survive and can heal.

But we don't want Hark to suffer, either. That's ok - taking off the collar isn't the only way. There's a place that's outside any god's influence while we're in the game. A place to be free of all of us, if that's what Hark would prefer. If that's not trustworthy coming from us, Hark can ask Wax. Spit's strong, but we ARE Void. We do absence. We can take things away.

Keep that in mind yourself, too, Voidsy. Maybe we can get some zen on. Revolve around the empty center. Be without anger, fear or ego, and be open. We might be too discordant to really manage a state of peaceful harmony, but getting even a fraction of it would be helpful. That gulf inside us might be frightening, but there are positive ways to see it, and for something like this we should use whatever we might have. Would we not feed ourselves to the hole in our hearts for the sake of these tiny cats?

... I guess as god of masks we kind of gravitate toward drama, too, yeesh.
No. 954289 ID: dbd72b

The spark of hope and some notes of rebellion. We have what we need from this. Time to leave. But first let Hark know you aren't beaten, and won't give up.

Consider securing the godless zone further and putting Hark in it to temp block Spit until we can null/workaround the collar. It's just magic, let's explore options with god friends.
No. 954325 ID: 6c227a

That seems fine. Don't explain the particulars of any of our devices to Spit unless it becomes necessary to convince Hark of their efficacy. Depending on how the collar works, she may get information on them later when we are explaining things to Hark, but Later is an improvement over Now.
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VOIDSY: Oh, is that all?
VOIDSY: Believe it or not, we’ve actually got something for that.
VOIDSY: Hark, we think we can save you.

The corner of Spit’s mouth twitches, and for a split second you could almost swear she was frowning.

VOIDSY: You’re better than she is.
VOIDSY: She needs you, but you don’t need her.
VOIDSY: Spit’s strong, but we ARE void.
VOIDSY: We do absence.
VOIDSY: We can take things away.
VOIDSY: We know it seems hopeless now, but please, trust us.
VOIDSY: What she’s done to you is nothing short of a sin, and you deserve to live a happier, healthier life- one where you don’t have to worry about the random, sadistic whims of some shitty, stupid person.
VOIDSY: We don’t want you to suffer anymore.
VOIDSY: We have a way around this, we have a way to get you a fresh start, entirely at your control.
VOIDSY: It would mean crossing into our base, but if you come with us, we promise you’ll get out.
VOIDSY: We know it’s not easy to trust us, it’s not easy to hope, but would you rather remain a prisoner, tortured constantly, or take a leap of faith?

HARK: I...
HARK: I’m not...I’m not a prisoner! I can take this!
HARK: This is where I belong!
HARK: I’m not coming with you, not now, not ever!

There’s uncertainty in her voice, almost as if she didn’t really believe what she was saying. It’s not a solid victory, but it’s something.

You’ve done all you can, and now it’s time to return your attention to your TCPs. It’s time to get out of this murderfort once and for all, and as quickly as possible.

VOIDSY: It’s your choice.
VOIDSY: We’ll be waiting.

As you start to tune out of this conversation, bailing before Spit can make any more snarky comments, you hope that that spark of hope counts for something, that you’ve done the right thing.

That’s all you can ever hope for, really.


ACT 4: START: https://homebrewdeviants.com/forum/Thread-TINY-CAT-PEOPLE-VOID-SESSION-ACT-4?pid=4537#pid4537

from here on out, TCP will be hosted on the HD forums- thank you so much for suggesting, and i hope to see you all there!

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