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406439 No. 406439 ID: 97486c

"YOU CAN'T JUST LOCK ME IN HERE!!! I'M REALLY A HERO!!"

>"Uh-huh sure. And I'm the god of sarcasm."

....

This sucks.
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No. 409223 ID: b6edd6

This Abel fellow seems rather quick to jump to conclusions. He thinks that because you became a hero, you must have turned into some kind of elf.
Still, this quest sounds worth looking into.
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No. 409225 ID: 09e5bf

>>409223
That seems pretty reasonable to me. At least for him.

To him, demons and Demons are the same thing. They can not be heroes.

D/demons respawn in the underworld
People respawn in this world.

So he could either redefine his views of how the world works, or accept that since Fluffy respawned here, Fluffy is no longer a demon. FLuffy has pointy ears, so she must be an elf.

It is him being prejudice, sure, but it's also him having accepted the change in a way that he can.
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No. 409230 ID: 166adc

>>409179
Glad to be back. It's probably for the best that we hook back up with your golem once we've been introduced to your new teammate.

Abel seems to have a limited mindset. He has justified treating you like a hero of some sort of non-demon race. You might as well go along with the mission he's offered.
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No. 409232 ID: b6edd6

>>409225
There are explanations he could have thought of that don't involve flat out rejecting verifiable facts right in front of him by ignoring things like her tails and not-face.

Besides, he also said it was unheroic to escape from prison. Anyone who seriously thinks that is at least a little out of touch with how heroes work.
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No. 409234 ID: 04b86a

>>409225
Her people were originally elves, actually, but you just made me realize that demon may actually be a man-made category instead of something defined by the universe. In other words, he's just a racist who doesn't even understand how his own wards work, and they just keep the bodies of Demons from disappearing upon death, and he's just doing whatever he can to cling to his worldview a la your explanation.
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No. 409235 ID: 97486c
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409235

"I'll go get her and I'll be right back!"

Fluffy runs out the castle.

Guys guys, you're totally overreacting. Abel is way cooler then the Overlord. He actually praised me and everything! And he's a Hero!

>>409190
Fluffy runs back in and sees Abel is already holding her sword out to her. She takes it and runs back outside.

See!? He's so awesome!!

>>409218
Well... No. But they're different kinds of heroes. I'm the kind that doesn't kill -all- the demons. Just most of them.
Now... Where did that girl run off to?

>>409184
You think she's at the Garden? Okay.

Fluffy goes off to find the Guide. She's waiting at the gate in her usual post and greets Fluffy. Fluffy asks if she can be taken to the Garden. After examining her for a moment the Guide says that the Garden is closed for repair, sorry.

Hmm.. So she's not there. Where else could she be then?
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No. 409236 ID: 7c31d2

>>409235
Aww, the guide won't let you see the long dead demon and the flowers that only bloom when demon blood is spilled on them.
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No. 409237 ID: b85f8c

>>409235
Try the market.
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No. 409241 ID: e3f578

>>409235
Fuck Abel he's a piece of fucking shit
Smug piece of shit
He fucking killed you and a compliment pretty much undoes that?
That man could have mutilated you, then compliment you and you'd probably sleep with the fucker.
God, woman, have some non-hypocritical standards and be self-aware for once.
Do you just hear what you want to hear all the time?
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No. 409242 ID: 5029d1

repair? it's a garden. flowers and stuff. just go past her, she's lying.
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No. 409243 ID: b6edd6

>>409236
Drat, I knew we shouldn't have come during slack season. That place is amazing.
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No. 409250 ID: 6a5a08

You know, as long as you let people use you like that you'll always just be a run-of-the-mill NPC Hero.

You can only become a Protagonist by saying "Fuck Fate". As a Chaos Golem, we can help you do that and become free.
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No. 409251 ID: b6edd6

>>409250
As a what? We are clearly a magic necklace.
What kind of golem doesn't do anything but talk?
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No. 409252 ID: a2fa74

>>409235
He can't be cooler than Overlord because he's such a hothead.
Remember, Overlord never killed you. He never even tried. Heck, the plague was an accident, and he brought the plague doctor there to cure you.
Then he offered to pay the plague doctor back by helping him research ways to cure people who are suffering from even the latest stages of the- Wait! You have to be careful when you go to get the doctor! He's in the middle of researching the plague, and the consequences of disrupting that could be catastrophic!
Make sure you ASK the doctor if you can rescue him! Only a horrible hero would kidnap a doctor from their patients and research and unleash a horrible plague on innocent people!
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No. 409268 ID: 96e0ea

>>409235
Wait, wait. You sure you're feeling okay. Maybe you need to see a cleric with a bunch of sisters from a healing order. They can check you out if there's any internal injuries. Also they can help Kass, ehem, pass the message around that you're looking for your friend and that you're on a mission to kidnap, <coughs> I mean rescue the doctor guy.
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No. 409307 ID: f70e5e

you agree that the members of your village don't deserve to die, but you don't think less of abel for the fact he he would kill each and every one of them? you can't be willing to slaughter the Innocent and still be a true hero. ask about why the walls of his city are called the walls of tears, ask about what he had done to the troops the old overlord had forced into his service. Abel does not see demons as people, and that means he thinks nothing of committing atrocities against them.


also the mission he is sending you on? its to forcefully return the plague doctor the overlord hired to cure you, after you accidentally caused an outbreak of the plague in his castle.
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No. 409348 ID: 214bf9

She didn't say it was under repair until after she looked you over, clearly she doesn't know you are a Hero and believes she is keeping a demon out. Inform her otherwise and march on, Abel himself acknowledged you as a Hero and he owns this place so any people here should trust his judgement.
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No. 410430 ID: 97486c
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410430

>>409241
Huh?

Well whatever. I'll find her myself.. Maybe she's in the Market.

As Fluffy runs to the Market she bumps into Golem herself. Fluffy hugs the Golem tightly

"Found you! Hey guess what!? I'm officially a Hero now! And we even got our own heroic mission to go on and everything! It's gonna be awesome!!"

>"...."

"Let's go back to the castle to meet up with our companion."

It is a short walk back to the castle. Standing outside they see a man dressed in rather simple clothing with two thick gloves on. He smiles at them

>??? "Fluffy, right? My name is Forrest. I'll be accompanying you to the Overlord's castle today."

"Awesome! All right, let's go then!"

>"We'll teleport there from the castle. We can't go directly inside but we should be close enough t-"

"Yeah yeah whatever! Let's go!"

He laughs and teleports the three of them to the Demon Realm. They find themselves near the center of the Chaos Spiral, the Overlord's Castle floats high above them.

"Golem, fly!"

The Golem nods and takes Fluffy up to the castle garden. Once they reach the flat plains a Imp stares at them for a moment then rips off a chunk of land, clearly getting ready to throw it at them
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No. 410431 ID: 5029d1

you better have dodge skills
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No. 410432 ID: 8db51b

>>410430
State that you are here on a diplomatic mission!
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No. 410434 ID: b85f8c

>>410430
Meh. Tell it to go fetch its master. If it throws the rock, cut it in half in midair with your badass sword. Then tell it again to fetch its master.
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No. 410436 ID: 97486c
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410436

The Imp throws the rock

"HII-YAH!"

Fluffly slashes the boulder in half!
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No. 410438 ID: 97486c
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410438

However both halves don't just magically stop. Still being propelled foreward, the top half slams into her thick skull.
She grips onto Golem's arm and curls up slightly as the lower half collides with.. Well, her lower half.

In shock Fluffy lets go of Golem's arm and starts to plummet to the ground.

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No. 410440 ID: 5029d1

learn to fly from a penguin.
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No. 410444 ID: 5e3d1a

The trick to cutting flying boulders in half is clearly to give the blade a little twist at the end so the parts separate at the correct angles.

Perhaps the garden is an invitation only area? In hindsight it was rude not to approach the entrance first. You should probably scream very loudly for help while looking for something relatively soft to land on like water or trees. Think you can do an emergency divine slash-like attack with the flat of your blade with enough force to slow your descent using air resistance?
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No. 410445 ID: 97486c
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410445

>>410444
DOUBT IT

Fluffy continues to fall. She yells out for help. Just when she's about to give up hope something grabs onto her hand.

Fluffy tries to sense who her savior is but there is some kind of horrible cutting sensation in her forearm distracting her.

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No. 410447 ID: 5029d1

keep yelling until it stops
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No. 410451 ID: aa8dbe

Ok, that is Emily. Aka the golem with BLADE HANDS. Get her to pull you safety quick while you still have hands. Asking her to be gentle may also help. She is a nice girl, so being nice can likely lead you to the doctor.
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No. 410455 ID: 97486c
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410455

"Please... Take me to a Doctor."

The Golem Girl nods and flies Fluffy up and into the castle.
Fluffy's party is wherever party members go when they aren't being used as she is taken to an infirmary.
Once there the Golem Girl flies off. As Fluffy is being healed by the Doctor he examines her.


>"... Abel sent you didn't he?"

"!! Uhm, yes! He wants you back!"

>"Hmm. I suppose I can go. But I'm so close to a cure.. Do you think I can stay just a bit longer?"

"Sorry, orders are orders. You gotta come back."

>"Oh? And if I refuse?"

Crap..
This could get hostile if I don't answer right.
And no, letting him stay is 'not' an answer.
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No. 410456 ID: 5029d1

why?
why does letting him do what he wants so bad? aren't heroes supposed to protect freedom?
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No. 410457 ID: 8db51b

>>410455
Ask him if he can bring his research and findings and all that stuff! If he needs Overlord's dudes, Then, uh.

Well, we can figure that out later!
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No. 410460 ID: a2fa74

>>410455
He is a DOCTOR.
He almost has a CURE.

Are you seriously considering KIDNAPPING a DOCTOR to keep them from CURING THE PLAGUE just because somebody said some nice words to you?
That's both evil and horribly selfish. Not heroic at all.

You agreed to a RESCUE mission, not kidnapping and trafficking sentient beings!
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No. 410461 ID: f70e5e

why? if he doesn't want to leave than this changes from a rescue mission to a kidnapping, and kidnapping a doctor who's working on a cure for a horrible disease is a rather villainous act.
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No. 410462 ID: 5029d1

[HRRRNG, send message to other eye. fluffy with doctor, come in and say "what's a pretty girl like you doing here" to confuse her]
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No. 410464 ID: aa8dbe

The guy's work is important. Very much so to help stop the spread of plague spreaders. If he finishes it, many, many lives could be saved. However, you have been given orders and following them may mean he loses the chance to do so here. Tell me fluffy, you want to help out as many people as possible correct? To be a hero? What is considered more Heroic. The praise of one man you know, or the thanks of thousands you do not?

Well, if you decide to continue with the Mission, mention whom also came with you. The guy called.. Forrest was it? Probably a reason why he picked him to come with us. Maybe they know each other?
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No. 410469 ID: e3aff6

Abel asked for the doctor back, but did he say when he wanted the doctor back by? Abel wants the doctor to return safely, and trying to rush things could endanger that.
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No. 410472 ID: f70e5e

I just had an idea for a possible comprise, ask the doctor about how long he would need to find the cure, if its only a few days send a message back to Abel asking if he wants you to let him come up with a plague cure, or risk extracting an unwilling high value target. point out it will be very messy and likely cause further issues with the doctor if he is extracted against his will.
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No. 410488 ID: b9e291

Obviously Abel just wants to stop anyone from curing the plague. He will want the doctor to leave even more if you tell him the cure is close. In fact, Abel may kill the doctor if you tell him that. Just like he killed you. A swift end to any curative progress. The doctor will resent having to respawn and start over, but Abel will get what he wants. See how that works?
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No. 410494 ID: cd6e04

a hero would let him stay.
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No. 410496 ID: 214bf9

>>410455
Ask him how close he is to a cure, we could wait a day, maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe two, but after that we should probably take him back to Abel.
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No. 410497 ID: ed9476

>>410469
this
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No. 410502 ID: 9a022d

Yes clearly you should keep the doctor safe and help/pester him so that you can escort him back at the earliest opportunity.

Beware of that Forrest guy though.
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No. 410521 ID: 166adc

>>410455
You're a true hero, Fluffy, don't forget that. Why, if you helped him, he could get his cure done faster, perhaps quickly enough that Abel won't find anything amiss!

And naturally, getting him home safe and sound is key. Even fighting near him could end poorly. What if something breaks and falls on him? what if his research is ruined? Once he gets this cure finished, you can escort him home without a single innocent being at risk. If you feel the need to fight the Overlord and his minons afterwards, it's a relatively easy trip back.
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No. 410542 ID: b85f8c

>>410455
A Hero doesn't blindly follow orders. Ask how long he needs. Maybe you can get away with being a little late.

Also I don't think Abel said WHEN you had to be back. He just said "Go fetch my doctor."
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No. 410558 ID: 252e1b

There are lots of ways to buy time. Most of them involve getting into trouble though. Go find someone and ask for a fight, but not one to the death or anything. Call it a spar.
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No. 410791 ID: 0afc3a

>>410542

This is true, but he's not likely to be patient, either. Ask how long the doctor thinks he'll need.

If it's unreasonable, see if he can't take back what he needs with him, instead.
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No. 412138 ID: 97486c
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412138

...
You guys are right. I'd be a pretty lame hero if I stopped him from saving people.

Fluffy nods and rubs her chin.

"Well Doctor I don't think I'll just force you to leave.. How long do you think it'll be til your work is done?"

>"To be perfectly honest it may take me as long as a month."

"A month? That's a bit too-"

The Overlord, Emily, and Rose bust into the room.

>Overlord: "Fluffy?"

"!!! Overlord!"

Fluffy jumps back and pulls out her blade.

"My Arch-Rival!"

>Overlord: "What?"

>Rose: "My lord, can we just kill the girl already? She's been such a pest."

>Overlord: "We have nothing to gain from killing her. Fluffy why don't y-"

"Let's battle!"

>Overlord: "What? But what will that d
--------------------------------------------

Battle Start.
Placement Phase, unit limit 3
--------------------------------------------

>Forest: "Fluffy.. I think it would be better if we avoided a fight.."

"This man is the lord of all the demons in this castle! If we take him out then we win!"

>Forest: "Sigh.. Very well. I'm more suited for hand to hand combat so place me where you see fit."
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No. 412139 ID: 5e3d1a

Everyone in front row! Fluffy on the North, Forrest in middle and Golem on the South.
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No. 412142 ID: a2fa74

>>412138
No.
This is a terrible idea, and I won't help you with it.
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No. 412143 ID: b0d466

Deploy yourself at the top north, deploy the doctor behind you, and Forest just south of you
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No. 412147 ID: f70e5e

ok now i'm just confused. abel throws you in prison and cores out your chest when you try and escape, but he calls you a hero after and your willing to die for him, but the overlord treats you well despite the fact that you have broken into his home three times now, and infected his troops with the plague, and you attack him every chance you get. what the hell fluffy? also you do know that if your comrade dies in here he's gone forever right?
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No. 412148 ID: 97486c
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412148

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The units are sent out. Your move
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>>412147
I attack him because... He's the big bad evil guy.
That's who Heroes fight, right..?
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No. 412150 ID: a2fa74

>>412148
No, Fluffy. Evil is defined by actions.
You were born as a Demon. You decided to be a hero, and you have ACTED towards that goal.

This guy? He was 'born' as the Overlord, but what has he actually done? So far all you know is that he's been tolerant of you repeatedly breaking into his home, fed your starving friend, fetched the doctor to cure you of the plague that your friend unleashed, and is helping that same doctor cure even the worst-suffering victims of the plague.
I hate to tell you, but that sounds like stuff a Hero would do.
Oh, and he's forged an alliance with a convent of priestesses and paladins; seriously uber-good Heroes like that wouldn't do that unless they thought he was an ok guy.
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No. 412151 ID: cd6e04

you know Overlord is somewhere between a Hero and a Demon, right? he's not truly evil. probably more of a Hero than Abel, actually.

coincidentally, I'm about as evil as the Overlord, so I'm not helping you either.
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No. 412152 ID: b0d466

They do, but only when they're actually doing something evil! Like demolishing a village, or trying to kill you because you are a hero, or sending someone to kidnap someone else...waaaait~

But yeah, he didn't even threaten you before you called out for battle; that's called "JUMPING THE GUN" and it's not a good hero move.
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No. 412167 ID: 5029d1

heroes fight to protect the weak and innocent. TRUE heroes. not just the class Hero.

so tell me fluffy. why do YOU fight? a reason other then "that s what heroes do" that's why does a hero fight, i want to know you.
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No. 412187 ID: 3ce5b2

You're really hopeless. We are telling you, point-blank, that you are wrong about this guy being a villain of any sort. We've given you reasonable, logical arguments, and we've even compared the path you're taking to the path he's taken. If you're still going to break into this man's home and try to kill him, if you're going to be that stupid, there's no reason we need to be here, and there's no reason we're going to help you against him while he defends himself against your stupidity and probably kills you. You deserve it. Just hurry up and die before you mess up any more of the good Overlord's doing.
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No. 412194 ID: c4a1fc

>>412187
This. Seriously, I hate characters that don't learn. It's taken her this long just to start thinking about how she might not be right after all. Fuck this, Overlord is a far better guy. Let's just let Fluffy die and Overlord can have his other eye back. Whatever happens, I'm out.
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No. 412215 ID: 256d52

What makes him the big bad evil guy, Fluffy?
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No. 412316 ID: 6ed27a

No, Don't let Fluffy die. Although if everyone dies, she's definitely the one Overlord would save, so idk if that counts as dying. Anyway, it is our duty as eye voices to not INTENTIONALLY screw over our host.
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No. 412319 ID: c4a1fc

>>412316
Our host if Overlord. Fluffy's a thief/looter.
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No. 412354 ID: 5029d1

>>412350
we are in battle. the doctor is not. the rules of engagement are in play.
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No. 412485 ID: 68ff50

Maybe, but there's a whole checklist of shit you forgot to do first:
-Make sure they actually are a badguy
-Make sure that attacking/killing them wouldn't just make things worse
-Give the badguy a chance to reform before trying to kill them
-Make sure you can survive attempting to kill them or that your chances of success justify your sacrifice of the time, effort and blood spent trying
-Make sure you have at least some chance of success

You did not do even one thing on that checklist yet you lazy-jackass slacker! You are now no longer a hero, you are now a lazy-jackass slacker, mark this change on your character sheet. It is permanent until you redeem yourself.
Don't worry too much about it, your lazy stupidity is about to get you killed and make you fail your mission. Then either you really die or you get to explain to Abel how you abandoned the doctor to go try and attack someone that didn't attack you or even hinder you, causing an incident that may lead to a war DESPITE HIM TELLING YOU NOT TO DO THAT YOU MORON!

Honestly, Abel's kind of dense, but he at least got that much right.
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No. 412494 ID: 5029d1

oh and the golem that stopped you from falling to your death is there too.
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No. 412527 ID: 97486c
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412527

But... It's... Heroes are...
FORGET YOU GUYS! I CAN DO THIS FIGHT ON MY OWN!

---------------------------------------------
All of Fluffy's units move up as far as they can.
Waiting for opponent.
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No. 412538 ID: b85f8c

>>412527
Alright fine but I gotta warn you, if you use Overlord's sword against him he's just going to reflect the attack back on you at double strength. So you'll have to approach this fight indirectly.
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No. 412539 ID: 5029d1

>>412538
indeed, the sword channels chaos. and the overlord is a golem OF chaos. it's like trying to kill a lava monster with fire.
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No. 412817 ID: 97486c
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412817

I'm not listening to y-
Wait? I can't use the blade on him? That's stupid! How the hell do I fight him then!?

========================
Opponent fled.
========================

What? No, I challenge him again!

=======================
Battle Start.
Units set. Waiting on opponent
=======================

Anyway, how do I even fight then?
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No. 412822 ID: 04b86a

>>412817
Really, Fluffy? You're really going to force someone who honestly doesn't want to fight to kill someone to protect his own life? I thought you were a hero, not a villain!
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No. 412824 ID: 6e44d2

>>412817
Use hugs.
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No. 412828 ID: bdb3f8

really? you are going to try to figure out how to attack him while you are stuck on the battle map and not when you are just walking around and able to actually do stuff that might help?
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No. 412838 ID: 5029d1

use something else. try convincing him to surrender. give him a heroic speech
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No. 412851 ID: b85f8c

>>412824
That's true, he really really hates hugs. If you hugged him enough he'd give in and do whatever you wanted.
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No. 412858 ID: 5029d1

>>412845
not saying the sword itself wont work. saying the super move that harnesses the power of chaos. of course you can slap him with a slab of metal but the sword's true power would fail.
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No. 412862 ID: f70e5e

i'm mildly curios what you think will happen if you beat him. this is his castle, the odds are very high he will simply re-spawn. if not, his followers are going to be angry past the point of rational thought, and at least one of them (she's level 20 and has a sadistic steak by the way) would take it hard enough to hunt you down and get revenge. not to mention since the doctor doesn't want to leave you have no reason to fight him. this is befor we even touch on the fact that by forcing a fight your putting your friend the monk in danger. he's human, if he is defeated hear he will stay dead.
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No. 412878 ID: 5029d1

>>412862
fluffy will stay dead too, her class is hero now. she will DIE in the demon world, despite bwing a native.
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No. 412900 ID: fa9f7e

>>412897
Fairly sure we've moved on to the next thread, since I doubt we're advising both sides of the battle and Overlord 9(?) is more recent.
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No. 412903 ID: 97486c
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412903

So I can't use Divine Slash then? Hmm.. Okay...

>>412845
A 1 on 1 fight... That'd be so cool! Like a real hero!

"Wait wait wait!"

=============================
Forest and Golem are withdrawn.
Unit Limit is now 1.
Waiting on Opponent.
=============================

"You vs me overlord! Let's do this! Let's make it happen!"

I can still beat him if I just slash..
And now Forest and Golem are safe.
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No. 412914 ID: fa9f7e

>>412903
Okay, he has a gun. If you stay far back, he will *murder* you. Seriously, that gun is lethal. Stay withing 1 space of him AT ALL TIMES. Forgo attacking if you must.

I know that the sacrifice attacking for moving thing isn't how combat works, but let's see if Fluffy believes it
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No. 412928 ID: b85f8c

>>412903
I bet you can deflect bullets with that sword. Just hold it in front of you and concentrate. I dunno if you can run at the same time but you won't need to!
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No. 412930 ID: 5029d1

>>412928
you were really close with cutting that boulder, just had the wrong angle. you are tall but not wide. needed to cut it from top to bottom and it would of totally worked. so move and use your action to get into a deflection stance.
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No. 413071 ID: 97486c
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413071

Fluffy moves up and stops. The Overlord moves over and fires at Fluffy. She's unable to deflect the tiny projectile and takes 25dmg and is knocked back a space!

"D-dammit... It didn't work..."

I guess bullets are just to fast? No point in trying to block them again..

>"Tell me Fluffy.. What are you trying to accomplish anyway? I'm curious. Are you trying to stop a cure from being discovered? Maybe promoting the plague?"

"What!? I'm doing no such thing!!"

Does he think -I'm- the demon here!?

Anyway the bullet plan didn't work! I need new advice!
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No. 413072 ID: b85f8c

There's nothing for it. I guess you'll just have to run up and smack him with your sword a bunch.
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No. 413078 ID: 04b86a

>>413071
I don't think he's so much implying that you're a demon or Demon as that you're a villain. The title of Hero, capital H, just means that you're a warrior that's associated yourself with the human realm; it says nothing about how good or evil you are.

What exactly have you done that he's aware of that's actually heroic? Who have you done something to help at least in part for the sake of helping them, instead of solely for some sort of monetary gain?
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No. 413090 ID: 09e5bf

Try accusing him of kidnapping the doctor to create a super plague. Figuring out the overlord's evil plan should confuse him long enough for you to get a few good hits in.
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No. 413101 ID: 5029d1

well tell him why you ARE here. so he knows this is a righteous battle.
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No. 413103 ID: e359f5

>>413101

Why ARE we here anyway? To retrieve a Doctor who doesn't really want to return? To disrupt the progress of a cure? To break into a man's home and murder him with his own sword because of crimes we THINK he might commit?

How can we call ourselves a "Real" Hero when we keep acting like the villain?
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No. 413247 ID: 7a2104

Well the reason ultimately is that Abel sent you, is it not?
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No. 413263 ID: 68ff50

I'm remembering a conversation you had earlier:
You said, "You can't just lock me in here! I'm really a hero!"
Your jailer said, "Uh-huh sure. And I'm the god of sarcasm."
He thinks you're a violent threat to peace and prosperity, as Abel did, because of what you did in both cases to justify that perception.
In Abel's case you hid your identity and violated the rules of his realm to enter it. Perhaps you had reason for that, but you did break his laws.
In this Overlord's case it's because you have taken multiple rescues from multiple fates as bad as death or worse that him and his underlings gave you (heroic actions, yes?) and repaid them by repeatedly breaking in to his home to threaten him. In this specific occurrence he has even spared your companions from the fate that may be brought upon them by your attempted assault even, which doesn't make sense if he is a villain. That's not a villainous thing to do; they try to eliminate all witnesses they cannot convert to their allegiance when they are not the dominant power.

Justify your actions as a thief, mercenary kidnapper and prospective murderer, or accept that he is right to identify you as a threat to peace and prosperity.
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No. 413306 ID: 6ed27a

You can do this Fluffy! Just try to close the Distance.
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No. 413338 ID: 8346d2

>>413071
Throw the goddamn sword.
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No. 413339 ID: 6a5a08

>>413338
This. He wants to fight ranged? We'll fight ranged too! That's what heroes do, they adapt!
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No. 413852 ID: 97486c
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>>413263
No it's not... It's really not like that.. I just... Dammit!

Fluffy tosses her blade at the Overlord and... Actually manages to hit, scoring 29dmg.
However her attack drops to 20 and her Acc drops by 5.
Instead of attacking the Overlord shocks Fluffy by talking to her.


>"Listen Fluffy, I know you want to be a hero, but Abel has deceived you. I am no villain. I can help you find where a real one is though, if you let me... a sinister Tinker. So sinister that even in my less proud days I was forced to seal her away for everyone's safety."

"Shut up! Just shut up! You... You 'have' to be the evil one! All the things you did.. You can't just erase something like that because you lost your memory! What happens if you do remember!? What happens if you become evil again and I had just given up trying to stop you!? What kind of Hero would I be then!?"

I spent my whole damn life being good so I can try to be a Hero.. How can he claim to be a good guy just by doing a few nice things the past few weeks?
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No. 413858 ID: 8346d2

>>413852
Hey Fluffy, your naivety is kinda cute, you know that? There's no chance of winning this battle and you know, your death will be meaningless. There will be consequences, however. War, thousands deaths.

I'd like to say that goodness isn't to extinguish the evil, but to promote good. However, who would believe in this fairy tale? Who cares about the welfare of others when you can have the title of "hero" by bringing the head of the "enemy"? Frankly, I don't care anymore. My last hope, you, was lost. Go, do whatever you want. I bet this will at least satisfy the hunger for carnage and blood of some.
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No. 413859 ID: 385f21

>>413852
If you were just as good for "your whole life" as you're now, it's no wonder you don't have friends.
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No. 413862 ID: 5029d1

fluffy. stop and look at yourself. you are a demon that became a hero. that's an amazing feat. but think, that's how you are too, a demon that was good for a while, no other heroes will accept you since they will think of you how you just thought of the overlord. and if heroes showed up in your village, they would of tried to murder every one of them, simply because they are demons. fluffy, please, be a real hero, not someone that kills everyone that simply has a CHANCE to be bad. be like killing all puppies because they have a chance to poop on your carpet.
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No. 413891 ID: b0d466

It's called "reforming", Fluffy--when someone who was bad tries to become good. As a Hero, you should be encouraging this sort of transformation!

Sure, you'll need to keep an eye on him to make sure he doesn't slip back into evil, but at the same time you don't want to be discouraging him from doing good things by attacking him while he's working on them!

I think it helps if you think of "Being Good" as a default state of most sentient things, and "Doing Evil" as the thing you want to prevent them from doing. There may be exceptions to this, but as a general guideline for HEROES it works.
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No. 413894 ID: cd6e04

you could stay by his side, just to make sure,. after all, if he really is good, killing him would be evil. you aren't evil, are you, Fluffy?
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No. 413970 ID: e3f578

>>413852
Have you never heard of redemption? The epic stories of bad men trying to right their past wrongs by doing good things and giving back to society? Would you rather bad men continue doing bad things instead of trying to correct them? Do you expect for bad men to kill themselves if they truly want to redeem themselves? Is that the only choice Fluffy?
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No. 414059 ID: 97486c
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Fluffy waits to hear Overlord's reply. He thinks for a moment.

>"One who believes even demons can be redeemed."

"!!!"

But... That's... I know I did it but he can't...

>"You are a perfect example that even someone who's a demon can become a hero if they try hard enough. That's what I'm doing."

"You're trying to be a Hero too?"

>"In my own way. My older self was far to cruel to truly be heroic but I think I can achieve it. You've seen the good things I've done. Even the doctor I 'kidnapped' was only for good."

To cure me he said.. To cure everyone with the plague.

".... Maybe.."

Maybe he is good..

>"Why don't you join my team? You can help me do good and maybe even 'keep an eye on me' in case I try to do anything evil."

.... I could keep an eye on him, so to speak. And if he really is evil I might be able to gain some useful intel..

".... Okay."
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