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lolwut?
While most morality falls into a mire of gray, there are absolutes and near-absolutes.
Beyond that, moral relativity doesn't excuse bad behavior, it simply provides for criteria of judgement that take into account the situation.
>Because it's fun.
That is not a justification.
>And also because good and evil are abstract concepts without any absolutes to them, it's simply about perspective.
That argument might hold some water if it had any connection to reality.
Lets go with a lax proof of your incorrectness here:
You cannot have a stable society that has no standards for behavior.
Standards for behavior must prohibit interactions which directly undermine the stability of society.
Actions which cause undue harm to others undermine the stability of society.
Rape, murder, dismemberment, torture, and imprisoning of individuals are actions which undermine the stability of society.
Actions which harm society can be permitted if it is to stop actions which cause greater harm to society.
TL;DR: The onus is on you to prove that society would suffer more harm if these two prisoners were NOT being raped than allowing our team to rape them.
Good luck with that.
>Currently they're a drain on our time and resources,
Because we have chosen to keep them captive. You don't get to take prisoners and then whine about having prisoners. Deal with it.
>the demonic invasion is a real thing,
Yes. It is a real thing which they are not party to; we have confirmed so beyond a reasonable doubt.
>and considering how they treat their own civilians it's likely that bad things would happen if they took over here.
First: Can you prove this claim? Prisoner 1 thought he was protecting his home, which requires that he believes it to be worth protecting. Prisoner 2 believed it was some sort of athletic competition, and that level of naivety and innocence suggests that their world is far from a brutal nightmare. That both prisoners completely lack martial skills would support this assumption.
Second: Can you provide any logical argument suggesting that treating the prisoners this was will prevent an invasion?
>And so we need to do everything in our power to stop them.
Again, how does that in any way, shape, or form justify this sort of abuse?
>To do that we need among other things more funds and better discipline.
Better discipline can be accomplished by not encouraging bad behavior, and punishing violators.
>One way to do that is to either sell the demons alive or dead.
Slave trade! Take a shot!
Again, what have these prisoners done to justify such an action? There are far better ways to turn a profit on the demons. The talkshow circuit and as guests for televangelists.
>Then one of the things effecting discipline in a bad way is removed and we get additional funds.
Your 'solution' shows a fundamental lack of respect for society and any sense of proper behavior. You argue that a demonic invasion is bad because of how horrible life would be under their rule, but you do so while engaging in what are out-and-out war crimes. Against civilians, no less.
>More manpower is also freed up to fight the demons since we don't have to use anyone to guard the prisoners.
That's a non-issue; there are plenty of researchers would would pay to examine these demons first-hand, and that pay would be more than enough to hire a proper guard.
Heh, let me go one step further; lets assume, for the sake of argument, that the demons sent incompetent civilians in first so they could obtain footage of humans doing horrible things to demons in order to obtain popular support for an invasion.
For supporting evidence?
Prisoner 1 thought he was defending his home, so he clearly believes humans are a threat.
Prisoner 2 was unable to recognize that our team was human, suggesting that there is a sharp lack of information on humans among demon civilians.
The portals work using a mechanism we do not understand, and it is possible that transmitting data either does not require a portal or is accomplished by burst transmissions when a portal is open. This second possibility seems likely, as it would fit the sequence of events:
Portal 1: Prisoner 1 sent here as bait with a monitoring device.
Portal 2: Prisoner 2 sent here as bait with a monitoring device, recordings of Prisoner 1's rape and other mistreatment send back.
Portal 3: Assault squad sent in to 'rescue' Prisoners 1&2, recordings of continued rape and mistreatment of Prisoners 1&2 sent back.
I would expect that Portal 4 will either be an attempt at a covert scouting force with a mission of recovering the 'rescue' squad or a full-on invasion force.
Oh, hey, Smeth, is your face red?
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