Belarmina 2010/08/21(Sat)06:24 No. 220452 ID: d17a26
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Green: "Sides that... there isn't really much I can say. At fifteen I got into the military academy, and here I am."
Lia: "Don't give me that, mr. Player-- you are Not the type for academia, nor the type who can pay for one. Spill it."
Green: "It wasn't that remarkable...."
Lia: "Uh huh?"
Green: "Seriously, Imean, I admit that in the beginning it... came easier to me than to my classmates, but that didn't last long. One of my classmates had to squire me so I wouldn't get kicked for losing my scholarship."

And? Tell us more! More detail!

>>220452
Ask him if he met any dashing nobles at the academy. And if he got any particularly close friends.

Miss K! We missed you so! :D

well since player problaby had to sink his head in studies instead of actual social development, we could diverge the conversation. how about asking how lia got to her position? or maybe you could give your live story...

How long were we out?

Belarmina 2010/08/22(Sun)14:43 No. 221082 ID: d17a26
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Lia: "Well then, why aren't you your benefactor's puppy right now?"
Green: "Because.... he never knighted. Riddle joined the paladins instead.
Lia: "Riddle."
Green: "That's his name. I think he was from one of those families claiming to descend from the Slayer of Evil, so maybe it was an alias."
Lia: "Hrmmmmnh..."

Belarmina 2010/08/22(Sun)14:43 No. 221084 ID: d17a26
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"So. Befriended any other dashing noblemen in your time there?"
Green: "... not really. The people at the martial courses were fine, but the other pages were a bunch of dicks."
Lia: "Mmmnh, most certainly because you were way above your place. How many of them were in more than one martial course?"
Green: "What? Well, only me but what--"

Belarmina 2010/08/22(Sun)14:44 No. 221085 ID: d17a26
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Lia: "You have to remember the academy is for the people with money. I'm certain you were the only one in your class to have a humble origin-- your peers were the children of counts and dukes, being prepared to assist knight-generals and the like when they graduated. Not to mention your station as a 'peasant', always reminding them they're being raised to be glorified servants... no offense intended."
Green: "... huh."
Lia: "All those songs about peasants and squires and knights -- all true. But they joined travelling knights, not... studied heraldry at a school for their position."

Belarmina 2010/08/22(Sun)14:45 No. 221086 ID: d17a26
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Green: "... fuck."
"Harsh."
Lia: "Scum with gold, that's all there is to them."
"Not talking about them, Lia."
Green: "Yeah, seriously. What was that supposed to be?"
Lia: "Hmnph."

Belarmina 2010/08/22(Sun)14:45 No. 221087 ID: d17a26
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"Don 't mind her, Greenie. Sweet Lia is just cranky because she's nobility."
Green: "She is?"
Lia: "Am not."
"Evangelina Mélange Oates, daughter of Lord Charles the Merry himself. Don't let her say otherwise."
Green: "Wow."
Lia: "I'm... it means nothing."

Belarmina 2010/08/22(Sun)14:46 No. 221088 ID: d17a26
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Green: "What are you doing here? I mean, you're a--"
Lia: "I know, ugh. But 'Lord Charles' can't support each and every one of his Neko-knows-how-many descendants. I'm nothing but the fifty-seventh in his line of succession."
Green: "Wow."
Lia: "The court groomed me as a bureucrat to acquire some 'prestigious position' under the Monarch's administrative machine. As soon as I was of age, I joined the Church as a librarian, and never looked back."

Belarmina 2010/08/22(Sun)14:47 No. 221092 ID: d17a26
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Green: "... sorry, I just cant imagine why you would do that. With the court, and..."
Lia: "Small faraway villages and their simpler lives have their perks."

Sweet Nichi, I make some good stew.

>Lia: "I know, ugh. But 'Lord Charles' can't support each and every one of his Neko-knows-how-many descendants. I'm nothing but the fifty-seventh in his line of succession."

Hey if she keeps out of the way long enough maybe penknife politics, idiocy, and maybe even a succession war will kick her up the line a few dozen spaces?

Anyhow Belarmina, I see we are all getting better acquainted... I wish we could eat stew too.

Ask to be Lia's squire!

well this puts some insight but does not explain her strange pre/postcog habilities.

>>221130
wat. that is nonsense. she is not a knight, she is a nobleswomen. also we are under miss Q's watch now.

so green had mostly martial trainning but little with pen and paper? i wonder what he lost with this.

it seems that we should keep lia's habilities hidden from greenie. id love to ask more of it to lia.

oooh i got it, ask why green didnt decided to follow riddles as a paladin. not strong enought friendship?

You do. Ask if anyone wants seconds, if there's any left, and then get some yourself.

I believe Miss K had something to show us... but I guess it'll have to wait until the dinner party winds down.

How's your evening been? Introducing Lia to Green gone okay?

Belarmina 2010/08/24(Tue)09:36 No. 221725 ID: 815b7e
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> better acquainted
> How's your evening been?
> How long were we out?
Nice to hear you too again, by the way. You went silent for roughly a full prayer-- the lunch and afternoon have been nice. Bomber still is around the village looking for mr. Green, and his clothes are going to need a new dye job.

And well, introductions are going the way introductions do.

Belarmina 2010/08/24(Tue)09:38 No. 221726 ID: 815b7e
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"Say Greenie. Why didn 't you follow Riddles?"
Green: "Huh?"
"Why didnt you become a paladin?"
Green: "Oh. Eh, it... I'm not really paladin material, unlike him. Not my style."
Lia: "Mmmnh really? ...."
Green: "... and he talked me out of it. It wasnt really my calling anyway."

Sounds like an all-around good guy.

Belarmina 2010/08/24(Tue)09:40 No. 221727 ID: 815b7e
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>show something
That would be better after the sun goes down, but we could try it anyway later.
Besides, Lia is here; didnt you had a few questions for her?

>seconds
"I'm taking my bowl away, anyone want seconds?"
Lia: "Please."
Green: "I'm good. Could I have a piece of bread, please?"
"Sure!"

Yes, did her 'feelings' for what things are influence her decision to enter the church, or did that only come after she joined?

If so, is this something that's occurred in her family before, has she met anyone else with said abilities?

well if you say so, we could ask lia to talk a bit about her unusual hability.

maybe even invinting her to do that could make a better path to discover more without angering or ashaming lia.

>>221727
We should ask her more about the mines and the demons, any extra insight she has can be valuable. Plus it will segue well into Green talking about his... troubles.

Get ye stew.

>>221727
Oh, while we were out we found out that our 'body' was created by one of the kitty goddesses. I can't remember which one - it's a bit fuzzy.

Y'no. I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for Player. I mean, kid's just trying to make his mark on the world when he's not of blood to.

... By the way, who's Nichi?

ooh, Miss K, its totally time for you to play matchmaker to Player and Lia, they would be so cute.

or at least it would be funny to make em both blush up :3

Belarmina 2010/08/25(Wed)07:44 No. 222130 ID: 815b7e
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>Nichi
Heh, if you're that much clueless, you really need those answers.

>hability
>matchmaker
>kitty godesses

You know, I have a better idea.

"Greenie! Guess who's up?"
Green: "Huh?"

Player 2010/08/25(Wed)07:46 No. 222131 ID: 815b7e
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Oh, hi there. Nice to see you again.

Lia: "... it wasn't a nightmare..."

>>222131
Hi to you too! 'Sbeen a while!

hmmmm? what does she mean by that?

>>222131
Tell her the voices say hi.

Sup, how've you been? We've been bugging Belarmina all day.

Damn fine stew, right?

>>222145
Tell her the voices are making silly faces and ridiculous kissy kissy noises.

>>222131
Could you tell Lia that, while we were out, we found out that our 'body' was created by one of the kitty goddesses?
I can't remember which one; it's a bit *sunglasses* fuzzy.

Player! I missed you! If I had arms, I'd hug you!

Anyway. Who's Nichi?

Player 2010/08/27(Fri)05:55 No. 222665 ID: 05f28a
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"The voices say hi."
Lia: "Hmn."
"And they're making silly faces and kissy noises here. I think they like you."
Lia: "I assure you its not mutual."

> how've you been?
Been nice, spent most of the time busy getting that color off my clothes. They'll need a dye job though; good thing I have a spare.

... Belarmina? Is that-- K has a name?

Player 2010/08/27(Fri)05:56 No. 222666 ID: 05f28a
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>kitty goddesses
>Nichi
... really?

"Uh, they want to know about the kitty goddesses. Starting wiith Nichi."
Lia: "Mmn, Nichi's one of the greater five, goddesses of fun and games.... how much they do know about them, in the first place?"

tell her to act like were complete idiots from another world. Like we know nothing.

And she dosen't have to agree with me!

>>222666
They're... cats. And goddesses.
Uh, one half of the Twin Death is quite cranky and seemed to take offense to the fact that we were able to talk directly to her and didn't trip over ourselves to make her feel like she was extremely important?

And apparently one of the other goddesses deals in the domain of teleportation.

...So, almost nothing, really? Boy, I hope I remembered what little we've learned. Or half-learned.

>>222666
Start from the beginning.

Uhm? They seem to have Admin Powers? They can be somewhat pretentious (who woulda guessed?) When we meet the Death Twins again we had better have powered up significantly or the outcome will be... unfavorable.

Seven01a19!!EyA2IwLwVl 2010/08/27(Fri)13:13 No. 222698 ID: 701a19
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>>222666
Ok, yea, I'm pretty sure it was her.

Here, we have a picture...

Very little. All we know about your religion is stuff we've picked up from you guys, and our one meeting with the Twin Deaths, in the past two days or so.

So we know of the Twin Deaths, who also mentioned some other kitty goddess, like the other guy said. Then there's this Nichi mentioned now. That about covers four kitty goddesses, and if they're the major ones, we're only missing the name of one to have the full set.

Really, a quick summary on each would be nice, we're pretty ignorant. Y'know, like, what their sphere of influence is, what they do, if they intercede on behalf of mortals often, and heck, tips on their personalities would be dandy just in case we encounter one again.

>>222698
Wow I completely missed this thread or something.

Time to go archive diving.

>>222700

I can save you the trouble and report that the image is from the Inside the Quest IV thread.

That particular picture (Name: O-------N---.png) acccompanied this message:

To: [(root):-all-]
---: You.

>>222728
Her name is Operator Nine, by the way.

Player 2010/08/31(Tue)00:29 No. 223972 ID: 309192
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"... they know very little to nothing. And claim to have met one of the Deaths..."
Lia: "Right, right. The basics then."

>>223972
This should be interesting!

Player 2010/08/31(Tue)00:36 No. 223974 ID: 309192
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Lia: "The first thing to understand here: there is no formal worship of the goddesses."
"Wait, what about the prayers, and..."
Lia: "But who taught you those? A parent, or one of their friends? Maybe a druid, or a shaman figure?"
"... hum."
Lia: "What I mean here is, there isn't anyone backing or regulating their worship. There isn't a formal church to answer to. No priests, bibles, or a central widely-recognized canon, for that matter. Even druidism is more 'formal' in this point, with its teachings kept in check by a council of druids. The closest thing you get to an authority with the kitties is a tribe's old man or shaman, or the odd Lord with his own 'version' of how to honor his favorite kitty."
"Hmn..."

Player 2010/08/31(Tue)00:40 No. 223975 ID: 309192
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Lia: "But that leaves us with what? Stories. Prayers. Superstitions, small charms and rites. Common folklore. Sure, you can write those down somewhere, but what's in a book isn't any more or less valid than what you learned from your mother."
Miss K: "Unlike what her momma taught. She insisted all this peasantry is just a bunch of crud."
Lia: "So yea. They're pure folklore. Oral tradition and the odd relic are all we know about them. So far so good?"
"Hmn..."

>>223975

It's only crud if it's not true!

we met both deaths actually. but yes we follow.

>>223975
Well, we can provide first-hand accounts of the conversation we had with Inky the Annoying and Amanda the Unweaver.

Oh, also, has Lia ever heard the name "Operator Nine"?

Ah, wait, let her say her piece first.

>>223975
Hmm, interesting that it has managed to stay so disorganised. Ask her if nobody has ever tried to get the whole thing organised?

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)11:03 No. 231109 ID: 9c401c
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"They're just wondering why something so popular is disorganized. And if anyone tried to make something before... I think there was--"
Miss K: "Heere you go. Eat well, me pretties."
"Hey, thanks."
Lia: "Hmmn... Well, there was the old Emperor Valerius."

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)11:16 No. 231113 ID: 9c401c
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"Flavius, yeah, he--"
Lia: "Emperor Flvius Valerius, of the Constant August clan. He tried to bring all of humanity under one, all-including banner a few hundreds of years after the Dark Age ended. The power vacuum he left after his death brought strife, and his old generals became the first Lords."

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)11:31 No. 231119 ID: 9c401c
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Lia: "When seeking a new identity for all tribes to fit in, one of the things the Constant Augusts did was... trying to bring all myths and folk stories into the same canon. It didn't work so well, but did succeed in popularizing the image of goddesses as kitties."
"But he made that up, or..."
Lia: "We know today that ages ago, even before the Dark Age, animals were adored as an expression of the divine; specially cats. There's a number of old relics depicting cat-eared heroines, cat-headed gods and goddesses, tentacled black panthers, lions as a symbol of royalty, feline figurines... the list goes on. Its speculated that our old Lord and Emperor knew the same thing, and built on that."

>>231119
Tell them that we've seen Inky and Amanda ourselves, and that they're most certainly cats. Or at least that's the form they're in when they don't expect people to drop in for a visit, like when they're unweaving a person.

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)12:15 No. 231125 ID: 9c401c
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"Well, two of them certainly are--"
Lia: "ANYway.... five of the kitties were taken as the main goddesses of this 'pantheon'. Not because they actually rule over anyone, but because they're pretty common archetypes; kind of main characters in dozens of different folk tales."

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)12:26 No. 231127 ID: 9c401c
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Lia: "Ton is the archetype of Work; in her stories she's the hunter, the survivalist, the professional. Usually she pops up in a story to pull any weight you need puling, and producing all kinds of tools to help her in any task. On the other hand, she always does the least amount of work for the task, which associates her with either efficiency or laziness. A great number of stories identify her with yellowish colors, maybe with a golden or blonde fur-- no matter how common that actually is."

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)12:44 No. 231128 ID: 9c401c
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Lia: "Nichi -- or Nitchi, Neesshy, Needy or whatever -- well, her name can and is spelled in many ways, but she's the kitty of Fun. In the stories she 's featured, she's the one trying to find entertainment of any sort, or at least a way to make anything enjoyable. Nichi is heavily associated with the concepts of games, self-indulgence and pleasure."
Miss K: "Heh-- and good eats and very verey close afternoon snuggles...."
Lia: "... well, yes. Somehow, Nichi is also considered a goddess of birth, fertility and lust... something hard to dispute when every midwife in existence takes her as their matron."
"She does sound rather important..."
Lia: "No more than the others, I'd say. Nichi just deals with a field thats easy to understand and nice to deal -- from gambling to cooking to casual sex."

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)12:58 No. 231131 ID: 9c401c
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Lia: "Bliss is a hard case; she's commonly called Art, but I personally believe that's a misconception. In no stories Bliss is seen doing anything artistic, merely something... complex."
"Complex? What do you mean?"
Lia: "Its hard to say; Bliss is a rather abstract concept to work with. She 's a big showoff, so everything she does is with unparalleled flair-- while still playing fast and loose with the rules. Give her a tool, and she'll make it clockwork; give her food, and she'll make it flamboyant, and inedible. Many say she made calculus from algebra, or the other way around, because she could. Haute Coture is considered the highest expression of her 'Art', even if her image as a kitty of 'tech' is more prevalent."
".... hmn."

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)13:08 No. 231136 ID: 9c401c
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Lia: "Batta... is kinda meta. I think the word that best sums her up is Foil. She 's seen as a multi-skilled goddess that's always opposing the others, but sometimes-- I believe she's closer to a literary tool.
Miss K: "Maybe she's a personification of literary tools."
"Heh. So, she's like the Adversary, the big enemy."
Lia: "Not necessarily. Remember; a Foil, as a literary tool isn't just opposition; its role is to emphasize a characteristic by being the opposite. When a kitty is lazy, she 's hard-working; when in a story about sharing, she's selfish. She isnt a character, as much as she's an icon; a shorthand so you can readily know who's the story's 'foil'."

Player 2010/09/15(Wed)13:20 No. 231138 ID: 9c401c
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Lia: "And naturally. In the end, there's Nobody."
"Heh."
Lia: "Which is.. maybe just a case of the storytellers of old having a sense of humor."
Miss K: "Who made the world? Nobody!"
Lia: "Well... as a character, no, there has never been a Nobody. But when telling the kitties' tale, its tradition to use a different 'tone' when mentioning Nobody..."
"Heheh."
Lia: "Anyway. Many take her as a character of her own right, even if Nobody ever showed up to take the role."
Miss K: "Gyehee."
Lia: "Oh shush."

>>231138
Well that was pretty informative.

Ask how the demons fit into all this.

Is it true that Nobody cares?
What about Nobody wanting to hear whiners? Nobody sees things done when you're alone?
(I got a million of those quips!)

hello, did i stepped in a exalted quest?

well if you dont want to talk about the demons, how about you discuss with us a bit of your special habilities?

>>231138
Ah, ok, so, there's the five greater kitties, then a bunch of lesser kitties under them? Is that right?

The evidence does seem to suggest we were created by Nichi; we don't really do much besides causing delicious chaos, play matchmaker, and plotting to torment people who sabotage our fun.
Oh, no, not any of you; you've been great sports. We only plot the suffering of people who are malicious.
On a related note, Miss K thinks you've got a great ass and only rejected your advances because she can't bear to get that attached to somebody with such high odds of going off one day and not coming back.

- Player 2010/09/17(Fri)13:58 No. 231509 ID: 5c8f91
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> a million of those quips!
I'm sure Nobody would love to hear them later.

>habilities
Who, me? Uh... I'm an agility-focused fighter? I think we've been there.

"Any idea how the demons fit in the kitties' stories?"
Lia: "They don't. No mention to anything resembling the demons as we know them, and we know little we know about their own creation myths, besides something about a Master of Tools losing a bet."
"Like, Ton?"
Lia: "No, not Ton. Demons don't follow the kitties, at least, not in any recognizeable shape or form. Adademis is pretty usre they're monotheistic."
Miss K: "You don' really sound too sure of that."
Lia: "I know we know too little to make assumptions. Demons existed, but their culture still is quite a mystery."

- Player 2010/09/17(Fri)14:14 No. 231510 ID: 5c8f91
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"Are there lesser kitties?"
Lia: "Huh?"
"Well, if there are five greater kitties..."
Lia: "... you're still not getting it. It's not an hierarchy, the five are just the more frequent, well-known and well-rounded characters of the kitties' stories. And there Are other kitties, yes, but there isn't enough consensus about who or how they are."
Miss K: "What about Volca?"
Lia: "Also known as Etna, Rainwater, Thunderkat, maybe more. You just need to travel a little farther from Cental X to start knowing the local variants."

wow, how many places has she been?

- Player 2010/09/17(Fri)14:21 No. 231513 ID: 5c8f91
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... oh yes. Volca is... well, she 's the one you pray to when you want rain or sun. Sorta.

"... hmn. If there isn't much known about the other kitties, you think one of them might be responsible for the demons?"
Lia: "Again... maybe, but no. It just doesnt feels right."
"Right.... and what about the Twin Death being kitties?"
Lia: "Well, like I mentioned... the whole concept of 'twin deaths' started with the demons. In the kitties' stories, people 'go away' or 'leave to a distant land', which is taken as a metaphor to death. Some stories do feature a kitty as a guide of some sort... but two? Most scholars believe that is just the concept of 'twin deaths' sneaking into the stories."
"I see."

>Miss K, great ass, odds
What?

>>231513
Then I guess they sneaked into your personal story, or something.

So now we know alot of stuff about kitties or something. But not alot about demons, which would be more important really. And demon tech is rather important as well.

But ok, not really sure what you should ask about next. Maybe something about how common personal visions of the kitties are or something like that.

>>231513
>What?
You heard it correctly. She's a one of a kind badass sweetheart so if you've a mind to reciprocate you should go for it. And trust us we'd love to see that, but I'd suggest waiting until your departure from this town and/or mortal coil is less immediately likely. Feel free to look at her ass in return though, it's only fair.

indeed. she would totes be all over you if you weren't an adventurer. get another level or two under your belt and your chances of dying plummet.

but for now don't stare... TOO hard.

Mention that we've talked to two of them, and one of them is a jerk, though to be fair we were giant assholes about the whole thing.

>>231509
oh silly me, i was referring to lia's hability.

so since everyone is interested in miss Q's ASSets, how about you attempt a landGRAB later?

im sure she has a lot of fertile lands for you to mess around. just remember the kittens that will come along.

- Player 2010/09/19(Sun)06:11 No. 231898 ID: 5c8f91
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>how common are personal visions
What do you mean by that?

>badass sweetheart
>dont stare... TOO hard
>ASSets
Wow, wait... what? Hey, I don't wanna get bitten again, stop.

"They insist in making clear thet they know there are two kitties handling death."
Lia: "Hmnph. Then I'll have to make clear that I'm ignoring them on this issue. Have anything else to ask?"

>lia's hability.
... what?

no, can't think of anything else at this moment. you can get away with giving K a hand kiss and thanking her for the food.

To be fair, one kitty handles death, the other just guards her.

Anyway, it seems like Lia gets cryptic visions of things she touch. Like, what they are for or were used for in the past, and such.

...I sort of think that's why she doesn't like us very much. I don't blame her.

She doesn't want word of her ability to spread, so keep mum, y'hear? I'm only telling you because it'd skip a whole lot of hassle and lying and arguing on our end with telling you how we got to know certain things.

F'example, we got her to touch the small metal bit you've been carrying, and she said something about a safe (or something safe) and opening a family's ruin, or a path. So hold on to it, it probably -is- the key blue-hair was looking for, and if so, it might be valuable.

The DU thing's worthless, by the way. At least according to Lia, although I don't quite trust her on that. It used to be a projectile, but the thing that could fire it is probably not hereabouts any longer.

Ah, by the way, has Miss K turned over your stuff to you yet? The climbing kit, rope, holy water and such?

>>231898
Well unless they happen to know anything more about demons then there's not really alot to ask.

Probably best to get prepared for some more dungeon delving now. You have demons to smite, monsters to slay and summons to... I don't know, I would prefer it if you killed them but who knows what's going on with those fucked up little buggers.

>Hey, I don't wanna get bitten again, stop.
You'll learn to like it. Nibble-nibble~

She may not want to hear it but make it clear that we were asking about the kitties because we talked to them. But since she's done with the matter we won't dwell on it any further.

Ms K was telling us about "tones" she was hearing from us, ask her and Lia about that.

Ahem. Full stop. Do not speak of Lia's ability. Do not bring it up, do not ask her about it. She hates being used that way, like some kind of item identification service.

>>231924
we really should stop before miss Q bite his other nose.

>>231932
STAY AWHILE AND LISTEN
it cant be avoided. im sorry to bring it up.

>Wow, wait... what? Hey, I don't wanna get bitten again, stop.

Man up and take your love bites like a real warrior. If you don't have a slight masochism streak you're never going to make it far a fighter.

Anyhow, don't bother Lia about her visions. It's something she doesn't like showing off.

green ask about her plans to combat the enemy and tell the girl she looks nice.

- Player 2010/09/21(Tue)10:55 No. 232563 ID: 5c8f91
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>DU, worthless, projectile
... I see... well, I'll be leaving it behind then.

>Miss K, your stuff
Yeah, I've got everything back now. K told me what she sold, and wanted to keep the webstuff.

>Lia, cryptic visions
>don't bother
>Do not speak of Lia's ability
I ... see. I won't. But that's quite...
... I wonder if her fifty-so brothers can do something like that.

- Player 2010/09/21(Tue)10:55 No. 232564 ID: 5c8f91
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>tones
"They want to know something about Miss K hearing tones? ..."
Lia: "Mmnph?"
Miss K: "To-- ah, heh. I know what they're talking about."

- Player 2010/09/21(Tue)10:56 No. 232565 ID: 5c8f91
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Miss K: "See, the crystal ball thing is a kind of telepathic psi-active device, I'm sure. Telepathy works by putting stuff right into your head; in your case, image and sound.

Now, you're not limited to just sending and recieving what we see or hear, but everything must be sent as an image or sound. So, when you try to something like that, I hear this weird sound like there's a fast music playing too hard. Those are the 'tones'. If you were doing that through our eyes, I'd see a 'flash' instead."

Lia: "... okay, that.. is a reasonable way to explain it."

Miss K: "That kind of 'message' isnt something to take lightly, so I get rid of them. When its a sound its easy to drown it out; I ;ile to hummn. It doesnt works if you can't hear the tone."

- Player 2010/09/21(Tue)10:56 No. 232566 ID: 5c8f91
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"... I don't remember anything like this happening to me before?"

Lia: "Catching .... 'tones', as K calls them, takes practice. Say, how do you shake off paralisys?"

"... by moving, one thing at a time, start with the extremities... it's a muscle thing."

Lia: "It isnt just that. A state of paralisys induced by a mind-affecting spell or effect works locking your muscles in position, by locking your self-awareness into that position. By making an effort to move, you work it to convince yourself that's an unnatural state, until the lock linked to your memories is rejected, right? But what she does is to catch the message itself, and--"

"Wow, wait, but what does that has to do with anything?"

Lia: "Nevermind."

- Player 2010/09/21(Tue)10:57 No. 232567 ID: 5c8f91
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>learn to like it
>take your love bites like a real warrior, slight masochism streak
No, see, that would make me a pretty poor fighter, as I wouldn't be avoiding the pain so much. Yea.

>demons
"Anyway... what can you tell me about the demons?"
Lia: "Well, What do you want to know?"

How do you kill them?

>>232567
Well for one thing how they fit into the grand scheme of the cosmos. Why they seem hellbent on getting into this plane and attacking and where they get their stuff from. As well as their position relative to the kittens.

Then I guess it would be good to know if there are such things as halfblods running around out in the word and what powers one might expect a demon to possess. Oh, and if they can do possession.

That's about it I think.

>>232567
Fear of pain makes for a poor warrior. The pain doesn't matter, only the damage that it usually accompanies. Miss K caused you pain but no damage, ergo you need to stop being such a wuss and get over it.

Of course, you shouldn't make a move on her until she's not going to be terrified for your safety every time you go get some work done. There's no room in her heart for the dead.

Oh, also, ask her what that dish on the top of her house is for.

Why are they such jerks?

>>232567
We're just saying you gotta be tough. Shrug off those monsters attacks so you can win the battle. Enjoy the nibbles at your neck even if you get bitten, and don't wuss out just because she squeezes and tossles you until you bruise all over and her nails claw at your back~

...Wait where were we again? Oh yeah.
>>232593
And about those other planes, how much do you know about them? That DU wasn't from these parts, but it didn't seem all that demonic in origin. Maybe we can guess what that world might have looked like, but what about you guys?

- Player 2010/09/22(Wed)05:48 No. 232754 ID: 5c8f91
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"How do I kill them?"
Lia: "Hit it until it dies."
"Har."
Lia: "Hey. A demon isn't much stronger than any of us. They may have horns, carpaces and thick skin -- but they're still flesh, blood and bone. Isn't that your area of expertise?"

Hrmn.

was asking more about anything in particular that would make it die faster. holy water made one feel pain... ask lia to bless your sword? making it count as holy should make it hurt demons more.

>>232754
"Giant fire breathing spiders are not.
Things that power magic with blood are not.
Things that fight using some kind of illusion from miles away are not.
I was kinda hoping they would have some kind of weaknesses to make my life easier.

Oh, that reminds me. Miss K, do you think you could help the dungeon set-up a store? Not inside the dungeon; on the edge of it so they aren't compelled to attack and don't have to leave.
They need real coins to produce effective monsters, and the lack of effective monsters has let the demons go unchecked. Basic dungeon ecology."

- Player 2010/09/22(Wed)06:28 No. 232758 ID: 5c8f91
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"Giant fire-breathing spiders, blood magic and weird... illusions from miles away aren't exactly what I studied for."
Lia: "Maybe you forgot, but all the magic we know nowdays has roots on the little we learned during the Dark Age. Demons are highly magical creatures. That really shouldn't be a surprise."
"I still was hoping for something to make the whole 'die' thing quicker; like, dousing one in holy water did cause him alot of pain. Can't you bless my sword or something?"
Lia: ""Not really, I'm just a bureaucrat. Maybe the Father can, but... well, I don't think its trivial. And probablty can be only done in a Sun's Day."

>>232758
When's the next Sun's Day?
"I'll ask him about it later. I need all the help I can get.
So, what's up with that dish thing on the roof? What's that for?"

Well whatever she knows of magic is better than what we have to work with. If she has any insight into magic that can help you with not dying it would be worth hearing.

it is time.

miss Q, lia, do any of you have any tips about tones we can do to help player instead of tazing him? we can check his inventory and status but so far its all gibberish.

...lia can we see your status screen?

>>232758
Getting weapons blessed can demand all sorts of stuff from you. If a good solid steel blade will do the work then the whole magic deal isn't necessary.

Hmm, demons seem to have more stuff left over from the dark ages as well. Ask them how well stuff like that would work for you? If there's any sort of magic presence needed or something.

- Player 2010/09/26(Sun)23:04 No. 234604 ID: 5c8f91
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>when
Six days from now, at the end of the week.

>tones, status screen
... what?? I'm not asking that.


"Any tips to help me when dealing with magic then?"
Lia: "Like, for you? Mn, just the basics; the colder the iron, the better to strike with; and a mage can strike at anything he sees."
Miss K: "Evangeline, tone."
Lia: "Hey, am I lying? Anything really useful he could learn would take at least an year."

.... worse is knowing she's right. At least the iron part is somewhat covered.

- Player 2010/09/26(Sun)23:07 No. 234608 ID: 5c8f91
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"Do you know if ... demon magic stuff, if I can use them? Like, do I need to be demonical or magical or something like that?"
Lia: "Mmmn, no, not... to answer your question, its easier if you think of them as tools. Well, big, powerful, dangerous tools, but still, some are simple, and while not all items need some sort of talent..."
"... and that translates to what, really?"
Miss K: "I think what she means it, sometimes its a hammer. And sometimes, its a repeating self-loading elemental steam engine."

so nothing for us? thats sad. at least we can turn into a hurtball if a lame demon get to us.

wait, can you ask her the name of these tools? as in, their ancient, magical, whatever-is-the-meta names?

>>234608
Well sounds like it's time to go then. Get your stuff, warm up a bit, get limber and then we brave the dungeon. There are demons to slay, and possibly seduce, heroics to be done and great dramas waiting to unfold.

Be polite before you go, say thanks for the food, offer to do cleanup, and compliment the lovely ladies for their wisdom, company, and cooking prowess in the case of Miss K.

I think I know what they're both trying to say. I think we have to build a repeating self-loading elemental steam engine.

oh wait, say you also saw lightning crystal or something, if miss K would be so kind as to create a self contained rubber and plastic suit so it could be taken would be great. would make a hell of a weapon.

Yeah, ask for some rubber gloves and small rubber pouch, also ask about shotguns.

Hang on fellas. We had something to do for Miss K this evening, didn't we? The whole 'tone' thing? Or are we postponing that now? Not sure if 'zat's wise.

Also... Player.

You really should consider returning that halberd somehow. Maybe Lia would be willing to help with that? As a member of the clergy, she should understand the position of a repentant.

If she is willing to help, she could say she took a walk after dinner and found it by the village sign. Given that she's managed to keep her gift a secret up to this point I think she's a decent enough dissembler to pull it off.

- Player 2010/09/29(Wed)07:45 No. 235865 ID: 5c8f91
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'Rubber?' 'Plastic?' Nevermind.

"Do you know how could I pick a lightning crystal up?"
Lia: "A lightning crystal."
"Yeah, I found a red crystal that... shoots lightning all the time. Ten or fifteen feet radius of sorts."
Miss K: "Is that about the magical shock machine?"
Lia: "... it shouldn't be red. What was it like, some type of quartz?"
"Idunno, maybe was a ruby?"
Lia: "Rubies cant hold Air spells. Have you tried cancelling it?"

- Player 2010/09/29(Wed)07:45 No. 235866 ID: 5c8f91
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"'Cancelling', like, with a spell?"
Lia: ".... hmn. There was no disabling mechanism, a combination lock, levers?"
"Nope. What do you think?"
Lia: "... that the dungeon's blueprints didn't include one of those, that's what I think."

- Player 2010/09/29(Wed)07:46 No. 235867 ID: 5c8f91
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Miss K: "Look, the ball mentioned a shock engine with a gem before. If that's the power source, you could try just knocking it down with a twenty-foot pole first."
"And pick up the pieces later?"
Miss K: "Just saying."

>>235867
Just make sure it's not a metal pole.

But you got your gear and stuff ready so it's probably go time now. Time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and bubble gum hasn't been invented yet.

so nothing about tones for us? =c

if you dont want to carry a 20ft pole, you can try dismantling one. another option is to ground the crystal.

so we know that the crystal is not the source of energy. is there a crystal we can use to charge or neutralize the electricity? it looks like something got assembled wrong.

Get up.
Stretch.
Thanks for the meal.

miss k knows more about stuff, just ask if she knows rubber and plastic.

>>235885

Wood. ಠ_ಠ

>>235885
plastic wasnt discovered until the end of industrial age. its made with 2 types of acid if i remmeber right. oh and they may be toxic.

rubber not so much. its a plant byproduct, common in the tropics. id say we dont have how to get it.

if miss Q can make a interlaced metal cloth, we can make you a faraday cage, but im sure you wont like the encumbrance.

- Player 2010/09/29(Wed)12:25 No. 235907 ID: 5c8f91
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"They want to know if you know rubber."
Miss K: "As in, an eraser? For pencils?"
"They're called rubbers?"
Miss K: "That's the name."
"... no, I don't think thats what they mean. What about plastic?"
Miss K: "Well, many things are 'plastic', like gold, wet clay..."
"... nevermind."

I hope that answers your question.

Miss K: "Anything else?"

- Player 2010/09/29(Wed)12:26 No. 235908 ID: 5c8f91
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"Yeah, how do I get a shotgun?"

>PFFFFFFFFFFT!

>>235908
Totally. Worth. It.

they must know what it is, otherwise they would just be confused about what it is rather then that reaction.

>>235908
Clearly you steal it from demons. Then you proudly proclaim that it's your boomstick and shoot some demons in the face while saying some awesome oneliners.

Their reaction says they know something about shotguns. Find out what.

For your reference, the metal-wood wand that one of the demons were using to shoot at you and that summon you freed was a shotgun, at least as we term them.

>>235917
Hells yeah

>>235907
They have rubber erasers? That might actually be the kind of material we want!

>>236028
actually yes, the stuff in erasers is what we want. just a lot of it, melt it down and make a suit out of it. makes you resistant to electricity. wrap a metal suit around it and you will be immune to lightning and stuff. so if a wizard is known to shoot lightning bolts at everyone you show up in that and kick his ass.

>>236033

Only need the soles of your boots to be made of it really. So long as there's no path to earth you're fine. I'd run tests before trusting it first though, and be wary of exceptionally powerful lightning all the same.

>>236035
That might do the job for natural lightning, but I doubt the kinds that are evoked up are nearly so limited.

shotguns and dungeon crawls? suddenly its blackthorne in here

we saw a shotgun in the dungeon wasnt it?

ask about handguns; rifle and ammo too

- Player 2010/10/06(Wed)07:03 No. 239395 ID: 168533
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>rubber erasers
Huh, really?

>shotguns
Yeah, I'd love to know all about it, but I don't think they'll talk about those so easily.

Miss K: "Eheh... shotgun? What are you talking about, Green?"
Lia: *cough* "Ug--" *cou--kaff-kaff-kaff*

start describing it. hollow metal tube with wooden base, has a trigger, causes whatever you point it at to die.

>>239395
it uses gunpowder. it shoots several lead pellets of considerable damage and coverage. it has capacity for 8 rounds.

it was not in shop =c we needs at least a guard against it.

>>239395
Point out (possibly again) that you were damn near on the receiving end of one. >:/

Add that you and the voices ought to know if that's banned technology, since the voices know how to make them.

>>239395
It's like a hand cannon that fires appropriately sized grape-shot. It works somewhat like the DU core we found with self-encapsulated propellants and projectiles in a waterproofed casing.

Hmm.

Let's talk about guns, of which a shotgun is a variation. Guns are, in essence, projectile weapons, like a bow, except that the projectile (normally a metal slug of some kind) is usually launched, by way of a chemical agent, out of the weapon at a very terminal velocity. Getting shot with a gun usually means you'll get badly hurt...At least as far as we know. The rules here may be somewhat different, but the demon you fought who appeared to have a shotgun did at least use it very efficiently against that one summon, and very nearly against you. I'm glad you're the dodgy type, because some types of guns are very much capable of piercing metal armour.

Now, Lia, at the very least, seems to know something about shotguns, from her reaction. Ask her, politely, if she's willing to talk about it, because, y'see, we're fairly certain one of the demons had a shotgun and we're not quite sure what that means. Obviously you top-above guys don't appear to have much in the way of that kind of advanced weaponry.

If need be, describe the thing, or sketch it for her.

>>239426
pehaps we should add that we know the du core is from a huge gun?

>>239425
since this is medieval-like times, bullets were also made out of paper, tin and sometimes caseless, where the bullet was literally crafted within the cartridge.

>>239395
Lia clearly knows what you mean.
"The demons have them, and ranged death seems like something I'd rather be giving than receiving. Also, Miss K, these voices say they already explained it to you."

- Player 2010/10/15(Fri)07:38 No. 243765 ID: bf8c74
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"Yeah, a shotgun. Its like a crossbow, without the bow, more like a cannon the size of a crossbow. Fires something like lead pellets n' makes a big 'boom', really neat stuff, great wood finish..."
Miss K: "Eeeeh, Greenie -- that sounds quite like one of those silly musket things."
"Yeah, but its much better -- its short, actually reliable, and can fire eight times without reload."

- Player 2010/10/15(Fri)07:38 No. 243766 ID: bf8c74
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Lia: "Wait, how dont we know that.... ball of yours isnt just filling your head with nonsense?"
"Because one of the demons tried to kill me with one. The orb just told me what it was."
Lia: "This... just... still... ugh."

- Player 2010/10/15(Fri)07:40 No. 243767 ID: bf8c74
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"Just what?"
Lia: "...."
Miss K: "...."

>Lia clearly knows what you mean.
... I.. am not quite sure of what I'm walking into here, though

Could be forbidden tech or something. Perhaps we should drop the issue and just suggest Lia get a napkin.

>>243767
Eh, drop it for now. We can get back to the subject later, maybe once we have one to show.

Oh, and as a point of curiosity, what kind of muskets do you have?

"if you aren't aloud to talk about it you can just say you aren't aloud to talk about it. no biggie."

Just straight up ask what the problem is. Because seriously, what's the problem?

>>243772
voice this request. we are clearly crafty enought to make you a nice gun if it comes to it.

get lia a cup of water.

and tell her to chill. we are all on the same side here.

the side of kicking demon's butt.

Ordinarily, I'd just wait until she's ready to talk, but I have a feeling that whatever else she's supposed to hide is also likely to result in your death. The demons obviously have access to forbidden technology, and it would be a big help to learn about it so we know how to counter it.

Ok so we stepped somewhere really awkward... but we have little idea why. It's just going to happen again unless those two start explaining things.

And get Lia a damn napkin.

>>243767
Get Lia a napkin.
"Are you alright, Lia?"

Have a bit of a giggle at her and then get a hankerchief and smile.

in a entirely meta question, what does Lia means?

everyone seems to be named after metagaming artifacts. i cant think why Lia would have a original name do not steal. it cant be a false name due to what was already explained

This seems to be a sequel to something and I don't know what that is.

It being forbidden tech sounds like a possible reason, although it may not be the only one. Still, Lia's into history and artifacts, I believe, so it's very much conceivable.

See, there's all kinds of indications (at least for us) that before, or during the Dark Age, you guys had a lot more impressive technology than the stuff you've currently got, Player. A LOT more.

There could be sociological reasons for keeping the existence of reliable guns hidden. Guns actually are quite horrible implements of war, you see. Kill a man in seconds flat with merely the press of a trigger, no buts, ifs or takeabacksies.

That said, something doesn't quite rhyme here. You say you have muskets, which just are a more primitive type of gun, and cannons, which really just are huge guns. If reliable guns at all was forbidden lore, why have the lower rung step of it?

Could there be some sort of gradual re-introduction of technology going on here? Are the Host or the Kitties keeping technology redevelopment after the Dark Age at a 'steady' pace? Do people simply not develop muskets and cannons further because they are seem as primarily useless/good enoguh as they are?

I honestly don't know, Player. We're not mind-readers, so you gotta ask Lia and Miss K why they're so concerned yourself. If it's not something they want to/can talk about, then fine. It's not like you can force it out of them, you were just looking for a way to even the odds against the demons.

>>243948

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Dungeon_Game:_The_Quest[/spoiler]

>>243950

Cripes, pardon the double post. Durn link ruined itself.

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Dungeon_Game:_The_Quest

>>243952
There's a delete post function

- Player 2010/10/19(Tue)06:51 No. 245971 ID: 9fcc8d
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"... you know, you can just tell me if its taboo or something."
Miss K: ...
Lia: ...

... Fine.

- Player 2010/10/19(Tue)07:12 No. 245973 ID: 9fcc8d
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"Excuse me."
Miss K: "Let me--"
"No, have it. Lia?"
Lia: "Here."

==>

--- 2010/10/20(Wed)17:17 No. 246385 ID: 9fcc8d
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"I'll bring you a cloth or something for your face."
Lia: "Hmn..."

I know, I know. I had a problem. Nuff said.

--- 2010/10/20(Wed)17:21 No. 246387 ID: 9fcc8d
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Miss K: "Crud"
Lia: "We have a problem."
Miss K: "Firearms. They have firearms. Maybe automatics. Maybe even angel-killers."
Lia: "... we have a bigger problem."
Miss K: "How can even have firearms? Do you think they're mining gun?"
Lia: "Kay, he knows about firearms."

--- 2010/10/20(Wed)17:32 No. 246393 ID: 9fcc8d
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Miss K: "... what?"
Lia: "How did he met an armed demon and came back unscathed?"
Miss K: "Lia dear, paranoid."
Lia: "He still knows too much. He could--"
Miss K: "Oh come on. Where do you think muskets came from, the matchlock fairy? It's not even a secret."
Lia: "No thanks to you."

>>246393
Oh you have a bit bigger problems than that. Well, depends a bit on how you define problems, things will get interesting in either case.

Oh, and he survived through clever application of taking cover behind summoned creatures and using his surroundings and the creatures native there to his advantage. Which is to say that he made sure that a summon got in the way of the fire and killed the mage that provided light. Then he went out and waited for the screaming in there to stop. Worked like a charm.

Anyway, you seem to be quite familiar with these iteams and how they work. So, a natural question for follow then is why are you familiar with them and how did you stop the demons if they have hardware like this?

--- 2010/10/20(Wed)17:40 No. 246396 ID: 9fcc8d
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Miss K: "What was that supposed to mean?"
Lia: "You could have done better than just stare at him with a guilty face."
Miss K: "Eva-- I'm not listening this. Am I, Ms. Oates?"
Lia: "Couldn't you make up something up about magic or something?"
Miss K: "You're the scholar."
Lia: "He trusts you. You know how this works."
Miss K: "Evangeline, you better think twice before--"
Lia: "Why are you defending--"

--- 2010/10/20(Wed)17:42 No. 246398 ID: 9fcc8d
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"Here you go"
Lia: "Thanks."
"Eh, you're welcome."

Sup Green

didn't know we were listening. seems guns are indeed forbidden tech. only way to get one is by stealing it.

Just... ask them to trust you. To not say or do whatever it is they ask. Otherwise you're just stumbling through the dark on this and that is not better for anyone.

>>246396
Thank Miss K for not lying to you, and tell her it means a lot to you.

Then tell Lia that we said you're the only person in the area willing and able to go down there, that the quality and relevance of the information you bring back depends entirely on how much they're willing to tell you, and that they're obviously in dire need of information if they're so shocked. Also, that not bringing you up to speed means that we will be supplying you with the best information we can.
If she doesn't bite, then you can tell her we said guns are bemusingly quaint compared to some of the things we can bootstrap. If the carrot doesn't work, we use the stick.

so, Player, it just so happens the dungeon went up a couple of levels! maybe all of them!

be careful, Lia may try to get you arrested. miss K may help you flee but the shit has officially hit the fan, and is now dripping of the roof. you may ned to consider not being able to face a weapon handling demon/person or maybe not returning to the dungeon at all due to Lua reporting the shotgun to the authorities.

it was just kinda odd to not have a explanation or a warning ._.

Listen Player can you tell them that you over heard them and that you want them to know that building gunpoweder weapons wouldn't be a bad thing if they are sued for the right purposes. Also player ask if any of them want a drink of water.

- Player 2010/10/21(Thu)05:06 No. 246593 ID: 9fcc8d
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Oh, here you are. Here I was, wondering why you were silent.

>Lia, arrested, shit, fan, weapon, Lia, authorities
To not trust Lia. Right. Because that would make my life so much easier. Ugh.

>overheard them
Overheard what? What did I miss?

"... you know you can trust me, right?"
Lia: "..."
Miss K: "Its not about trust, Greenie."
"Its just... whatever it is, the shotgun thing seems awfully important."
Miss K: "Please, don't?"
"Okay, sorry."

>carrot, stick
... I'm not too sure about the threatening approach.

>>246593
It IS about trust, because they are trusting US and our knowledge to make up for what they aren't telling you. We'll have you dual wielding railguns in no time. Or something. Tell them to tell what they know or we might teach you how to make gunpowder! Would be hard to make even the bullets the weapons use, but even a primitive hand lobbed grenade could do wonders.

As for what we heard... much more was implied than actually said. We'll speculate later, if we don't get directly explained here. Don't think it would help to mention we heard anything, so don't.

>>246593
player, lia will rat you out. if she doesnt, she will rat that the dungeon has gunpowder weaponry, and thus, it will be deemed the most dangerous of all. some weapons she called angel slayer.

you dont need to menance her. but what you are going to do is very stupid as it is necessary.

you will get back to the dungeon. you will tell Lia and Miss Q that you cant really make another choice. and you will do it if they help you or not.

now, as it is, you have no way to even understand these guns, even tho we, the orb, do. you can tell them that we saved you, lia and miss Q should not care.

you must tell them that it will be their fault that you will die there because noone wants to talk about these guns.

because the choice is either a slim chance of survival to stop the village from getting eaten, shot and sacrificed or leaving as soon as possible to the next city to survive the following onslaughter, only to have the same thing happening again.

anything helps. anything at all.

>>246594
Telling them if they don't tell us we will make guns seems like an incredibly bad idea (not saying we won't actually help you make them, just we don't need to tell the world, especially when it seems to be 'top secret, eyes only'.)

"what if the guns are just the tip of the iceberg? you need to tell me the worst case scenario. orb says they think the WORST case would be if they have a nuke" them having a nuke probably is pretty damn close to worst case.

its also possible they dont want to tell you because they fear you will spread rumors and the likes. if you promisse to keep secret, you may just get something.

its not like there werent political force at play to hide from the general population that they are already doomed no matter the efforts against it.

>>246593

The seem to want to know about the circumstances surrounding the gun.

Also, this is an opportunity to tell them a SWASHBUCKLING COMBAT STORY. How can you resist?

Hold on, Player.

Basically? Yeah, guns, firearms, are a sort-of taboo thing. Lia (somewhat hypocritically) criticized Miss K for being a bad actor and not just telling you it was just ordinary magic.

The main thing seems to be that demons having them means trouble, especially if they've got more than the one you saw, or more powerful versions.

Miss K and Lia are not supposed to tell you anything, though, and I'm guessing it would have something to do with spreading dangerous knowledge. Lia seemed particularly adamant on this point, and she doesn't quite trust you, since you got back alive from a gun-toting demon.

Honestly, and here's my advice: I don't think we should press on that issue any longer. Give them some time to think things through, to accept that you know about guns, but that you aren't likely to do anything bad with that knowledge or go spreading it around for your own gain.

To that end, you should say that if it's so important to them, you'll keep mum about the whole thing whether or not they tell you anything more and if you get your hands on one of these guns, you'll take it to them, rather than try to sell it or show it off. It might earn you some more grudging cooperation.

>>246593
Player, Miss K refused to play along with Lia's attempt at deception. Thank her for refusing to lie to you, and tell her it means a lot to you.

Then tell her we want to talk and hand us over to her. We need to speak with her where Lia can't interfere, and it shows trust, good faith, and a willingness to keep her secrets secret.

We're going to negotiate; find out what they are willing to tell you in exchange for what secrets we will keep, and what help they will offer in exchange for the help we can provide.

>>246844

Not to be a sourpuss and rain on your parade, but I don't think Lia's gonna listen to anything we say unless we bring some damn good arguments to the table, and we're not... always known for that. She also kinda doesn't like us already, remember? Let's not go down that road again.

That aside, it's Lia's trust Player should try to gain here, since he already has Miss K's to an extent, so trying to keep her out of the loop isn't the best of moves. She'd just grow more suspicious/irritated with Player and Miss K... and heck, the two women are obviously friends, and I wouldn't want Player to drive a wedge between that friendship.

>>246885
Err... I was saying for Player to hand us over to Miss K. Lia refuses to even touch us, and Miss K is likely much more willing to discuss these things with us and seek a compromise.
Lia, I think, would refuse to tell player about guns unless we were already halfway through bootstrapping up nuclear ordinance.

>>246885
tecnically we have 2 big arguments for us.

one is we saved player from a gun user, the other one is even if they DO tell us why guns are bad we are going to make player effective against them, either by making our own guns or properly preparing player to fight them.

Hey Player, ask if armor that's proof against guns is also forbidden knowledge. If it isn't, I'll pass along the formula for a new sort of fiber you can make bullet-proof clothes from.

You don't need guns to beat guns, you just need to be able to survive the gunshots.

>>246902

Although on reflection, trauma plates may actually be easier for the local infrastructure to manufacture...

>>246912
if i remember correctly, they are quite discartable and player does not wish to don armor.

a shield could work well for player, however...

>>247016

A properly made trauma plate is only good for several hits, true, but if one of those hits would have killed you it is well worth having. A trauma plate in his shirt, held just over his heart is a good idea and not so costly in terms of extra weight.

- Player 2010/10/29(Fri)09:02 No. 249709 ID: 361d44
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"Cant you just throw me a bone? Why all this secrecy?"
Miss K: "Greenie, there are things men just are not meant to know."
"You make it sound like its one of those Mythos things stuff."
Miss K: "They're not."
Lia: "Hmnph. They might as well be."

- Player 2010/10/29(Fri)09:11 No. 249710 ID: 361d44
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"But... what if they have, you know, worse stuff? Like nuke shotguns? I should know what I'm dealing with, right?"
Miss K: "Now, that's an interesting thought."
Lia: "Mmmnf, just.. stop, okay? ... whatever they have, you'll be the first to know about it."
"Yeah, right. When its a hair's from my nose, you mean."
Lia: "... there is no point in speculating what they might or might not be armed with in that dungeon. If anything, you'll be telling us your findings!"

- Player 2010/10/29(Fri)09:21 No. 249712 ID: 361d44
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"Can I at least have some kind of protection against shotguns?"
Lia: "Eeeeeeehhhh......."
Miss K: "Those things are worse than crossbows. Anything effective would be heavier than lead plate."

I guess I'll have to rely on my legs.

lia talk as if player would have a clue of what a gun is.

what if next time is a machine gun? or a tazer gun in a mettalic floor? or a grenade? or a bazooka? what if player finds a sniper?

we saw JUST shotguns. that cased ammo, black smokeless gunpowder doesnt come out of nowhere.

then ask K to work on a high power hand-crossbow, so you have SOME kind of ranged weapon to counter theirs.
also a ceramic plate can stop a bullet, only once though because it breaks. but it turns a deadly shot into just a very painful one.

Technically you can also use a variety of overlapping fiber weaves to stop bullets, well the smaller stuff anyhow like shot pellets. Rope armor, for instance can be so effective as to require a fairly large and powerful slug to penetrate.

>Miss K: "Greenie, there are things men just are not meant to know."


But apparently women are totally allowed in the super secret ballistics/techie club? I call bullshit, we gunna industrially revolutionize the shit out of you boyo. Just a pity that you probably haven't the patience or the book learning to gain the max benefit from our know-how.

>>249712
"The voices tell me that spider silk can be woven into lightweight bulletproof armor. Also, they're saying some rather unkind things about you, Lia, but the gist of it's something like 'unless she has a magic army hidden in her closet then player is the only thing standing between horrible death and everybody else'. A few are saying any secret worth more than my life to you isn't worth my life to me.
You obviously don't trust me, Lia. No, more than that; you've been patronizing and outright hostile to me all night.
Please, can you tell me, why should I trust you? How can I trust you?"

If you can get ceramic, you can make a vest that will carry ceramic plates. They will take one shot and bust most likely, but it will be some protection.

Of course, while it wouldn't be like wearing heavy metal armor, it'd be heavy enough to stop you from jumping around, which is a big part of how you fight.

If you can get enough high-quality spider silk, and if you can spin it into usable thread, you should be able to weave it into cloth. Layer that cloth multiple times, at least 20 folds, to make armor.

If you can't get enough spider silk, but you can get chemicals like black hair dye, caraway oil, wood alcohol and ammonia, chlorine and white phosphorus, and a dozen other things that I'll mention if you go this route, then I'll be able to instruct you in how to make the kevlar fiber. Kevlar is five times stronger than steel, and it is wonderful for stopping bullets. Spider silk could be better, depending on the sort of spider, but it would be nearly impossible for you to synthesize given what's on hand.

Making kevlar will prove to be a challenge, honestly.


The process for making the ceramic plates is comparatively easier, although the very best (better than you'd need, I would hope) requires rather rare material.

For stuff that is proof against a shotgun you'll need a good high fire clay, say a cone 10, as your starting material. You want a high fire clay because it's water-resistant, dense, and brittle. Form this clay into tiles, and sandwich the tiles between a thin metal backing of the lightest metal with a reasonable tensile strength available. In your case this will likely be sheet metal steel. If titanium is available, use that instead. If weight is a problem, use aluminum (not as good as steel, but lighter and less expensive than titanium).

These tiles are your trauma plates. You can make the plates in large sizes to save a little on weight, or make them in small sizes and attach them like lorica plumata to make a bullet-proofed vest that you can repair as needed (provided you make extra tiles).

If you need extra strength in the tiles themselves, place a honeycomb shaped metal armature inside the clay before you fire it.

A single large trauma plate will weigh around eight pounds. If you choose to make a lorica plumata trauma vest expect it to weigh around forty pounds (but it will also provide superior protection, due to the increased coverage and ease of field repairs).

Relying on your legs isn't the worst idea you could do, acrobatically-conditioned as you are.

Anyway, perhaps it's time to move on and set out? We'll be here forever if people are going to run these ideas through you to Miss K, then she can tell you why she can or can't do about 'em, and so on and so forth. Not that the ideas aren't good, but I don't think you'd approve of anything that weighs you down, and the lightest alternative, kevlar, will be tough to synthesize, since there's no way anyone has the materials at hand or even the necessary tools.

And for all that's holy, you need to do this, at least: Ask if Lia is willing to do you a favor. If she is, ask her that she take the halberd you borrowed to corporal Clash. If her oath of secrecy thing doesn't prevent her from informing the guards who are supposed to keep demons out about them having guns, she should tell them what Player told her. Forewarned is forearmed. Or she could make up some story on her own, so your cover isn't wrecked, since she's such a great keeper of secrets.

waaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute

are the girls purposely deflecting the subject as to preventing you fron getting a handgun?

lia has quite a store in her backroom. is it possible she has a gun as a memento?

Y'no what? You've been on the receiving end of a gun and they aren't going to help you defend yourself from it. If they aren't going to help you, go back in the dungeon, take that gun from that demon's beheaded corpse, and inform the masses yourself.

If anything, that will get this town on your side.

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)09:16 No. 250195 ID: 361d44
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"The voices here are talking about spider silk mail being shotgun-proof."
Miss K: "That's bunk.
Lia: "Bulls-bunk."
Miss K: "It would need to be something like an extra-tight suit to have enough tension."
Lia: "And any non-lead projectile would cut right trough it."
Miss K: "It wouldn't work against arrows, or rocks."
Lia: "And would just turn perforating wounds into blunt trauma and broken bones at best."
Miss K: "Not mentioning we'd need a whole lot of spiders just to make one piece."
Lia: "Not mentioning we'd need magic to work the silk at all."
Miss K: "If you want it anytime soon, at least--"
"Okay, okay, i get it."

>ceramic plate
I've got a rather tight weight budget. Filling my pockets with potterware... don' think so.

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)09:17 No. 250199 ID: 361d44
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"What about-- do you have any ranged weaponery?"
Lia: "Um, Manuel has a longbow or two."
"I'm thinking something more 'cross'. Something with a real punch."
Miss K: "Ooooohohohohoh, I seee...."

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)09:20 No. 250201 ID: 361d44
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Miss K: "Well, I may have something, a parked project of sorts, really not finished, but could be usable in a day or two.. but it really needs a scope of some kind, and I can't make a good enough front lens..."
Lia: "... isn't that a bit too much inside of a cave?"
"What, crossbows are women's bleeding secrets too?"

Either the :3 is a good thing, or a very very bad thing.

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)09:22 No. 250203 ID: 361d44
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Lia: "Excuse me?"
"What you ain't telling, Lia?"
Lia: "Nothing important."
"Why can't I know?"
Lia: "What you don't need to know."
"How do you-- how can you know what I don't need to know?!"
Lia: "You're a goddamn adventurer now, brassboy. It's not like you never dove in blind before."
"Fuck that!"

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)09:27 No. 250206 ID: 361d44
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Miss K: "Player!"
"No, fuck THAT. You don' know what's in there! I don't know but you have a clue -- and you ain't telling because of what?! And you'd rather see me dead than part with your miserable little pile of secrets -- what am I doing here? Why am I supposed to give my life for yours? Why am I supposed to ever trust anything you say?!"
Lia: "Why should you trust me??"

just get up and leave the room. pause at the door way and say "thanks K" and then go to wherever you are sleeping.

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)09:30 No. 250209 ID: 361d44
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Lia: "Why should I trust you!! Miserable little peasant -- you-- you burst into town with a demon in tow, an- and keep listening to the zillion voices filling your head -- like you're some schizo -- instead of -- do you even THINK about what's going on here?! About what kinda nonsense it's filling your brains with-- What kind of bullcrap it's making you do?!"
Miss K: "Lia--"
"You shut up. All those bastards want with you is get you and him in the sack for their feel-good fix."
Miss K: "Wh-WHAT??????"

>>250209
Woah woah woah WOAH HEY.

NOT COOL.

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)09:34 No. 250211 ID: 361d44
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Lia: "So that's it boilerplate. I don't trust you. I don't trust your sanity. I do not trust your malleable little mind and the lack of judgement that comes with it. I d-- don't trust your blue ball-shaped friends. I don't trust their long-nosed boss, their incest fixation, chubby bunnies, building games, or their fucktarded network of--"

>>250212
Oh snap.

holy shit.

>>250212
We tried to be nice you stupid noble bitch. But noooooo.

Woo! You go, girl!

Fuck! Ah, well. Not everything is lost! At least our "longnosed boss" will be happy.

For the moment.

>>250222
what boss?

Uh.

Thanks, Bell. You guys know we're trying to look after your best interests, right?

>>250211
That's what you get for breaking the fourth wall, beeyotch.

The spider silk would work if you layer it. It'd be like cloth-mail. The ductile nature of the spider silk thread is what would make it work. The silk spreads the force of the bullet hitting out, and since bullets have little mass they do far, far less damage when they hit a thick spider silk pile. It would still leave a hell of a bruise, with the possibility for internal bleeding from the blunt force alone. It doesn't stop the shot, it just spreads the force out enough that it doesn't kill you.

Kevlar is more reliable. Spider silk varies depending on the spider, but kevlar is great. It would behave in a similar fashion to spider silk armor though.

She's right though, spider silk (and kevlar for that matter) would not stop arrows, stones, or blades. Fiber armor is strictly good against bullets and other high velocity projectiles. If you want to stop a blade, chainmail is still your best bet. Platemail for rocks and arrows.

Also. >>250212

Get her some ice, prepare to mend fences here. Sure, Lia was acting stuck up and short-sighted, but there are some valid concerns on her part mixed up with her childhood indoctrination.

Nice punch.

>>250223

You are new, aren't you?
You have to be if you don't know the maker of these blue balls called: "Orb of Infinite Psyche". There are a damn lot of 'em ... us?
Ah, Xom fuck it, this is confusing!

>>250229
or i am playing in character

>>250230

So you think it IC that "we" don't know who made us, even though he is the first thing "we" see? Seeing that he has to activate us first, before throwing us out into the dimensions.

>>250231
... what? the first thing we saw was player when he stepped on us. anything else is OOC knowledge

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)10:24 No. 250236 ID: 361d44
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>Oh snap.
Oh snap.

>holy shit.
holy shit.

>We tried to be nice you stupid noble bitch. But noooooo.
We tried to wait what?

... dude, what?

do nothing for a moment. then ask if she is okay.

if you want you can also put us down on the table before you do anything. would probably be a good idea.

>>250211
Sigh.
"I am an adventurer, so I can't fault you for questioning my sanity. I suppose nobody can be entirely sane if they spend their life going into the unknown and risking death. But I don't think what I am matters, so much as what I do.
Yes, the person I brought into town was a half-demon. The person who had been taken from her home and warped by horrible magics. The person who spent who knows how long as a tortured and tormented slave to demons. The person who was maimed and dying when I freed her. The person whose life I tried my best to save. The person I made as comfortable as possible while she was dying. The person I buried because nobody else was willing to give her any kind of funeral.
Yes, she was half demon, but more importantly she was a person. She wasn't a threat, she was an innocent victim.
I only regret that I couldn't save her, and I'll wear your venom over her as a badge of pride. I'm not so cruel as to turn a blind eye to the suffering of innocents.

The same goes for the voices ball; it's a horribly vile mess and it knows it, but before anything else it tries to do the right thing.

I would have thought that you, "Evangelina Mélange Oates, daughter of Lord Charles the Merry", would have put more stock in judging people by their actions than who or what they are."

>>250240

Now is not the time to command player around, but now is a very good time to comfort and confront Belarmina.

>>250237
Ah, yes. That would probably be better.
We can give Lia a speech when she wakes up.

>>250212
We should probably try to make sure hell, Idunno, this is kinda bad. Why did she stand up for us like that? We aren't used to people standing up for 'us'. Our bearers sure, but us?

its time to trust miss Q.

politely handle us to her and we shall proceed to beg and kiss her butt for that experimental crossbow of her.

>>250248
no she was standinf for player. remember miss Q is tsuntsun for him, and that player isnt that much of a brainless retard when it comes to obeying us.

in fact we still owe him a lot of apologize for the "painball", mostly because we could never find a useful function to it asides causing pain to the bearer.

We're the ones she has a problem with... and she isn't completely wrong about our nature, but she's way off on yours. I think the only way Lia is going to trust you is if you put us down and talk with her yourself. And yes I do think you should try no matter how she's been acting.

Go help her out, get some ice. Maybe give us to Ms K.

>>250263
sounds like a plan, player could give us to miss Q and he would talk his life out to lia while we check the crossbow that miss Q did.

>>250265
it may have been funny a while ago.
but the Q joke has run itself into the ground. stop it.
also, guys, player needs to talk to K alone. let lia sleep on the floor for a while. i don't get where you are getting your ideas from.

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)13:22 No. 250305 ID: 361d44
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>ice
And where I'm supposed to get ice in the middle of summer?

>long speech
Not. Now.

"We gotta get her something."
Miss K: ...
"I can handle this, Kay. You... need to breathe a bit."
Miss K: ...

- Player 2010/10/30(Sat)13:26 No. 250307 ID: 361d44
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Miss K: ".. do you really want to help?"
"Sure."
Miss K: "Then go."
"But--"
Miss K: "Just... call Morning on your way out. I think those are her teeth."

... and thats why you never pull a fight with the town's blacksmith.

agree with her, leave.

>>250307

And tell her that we, the ball, are sorry.

You heard the woman. Give 'er a peck on the cheek to comfort her and shove of and get that guy and head for the dungeon.

Words can hurt and rash action compound the pain.

>We tried to be nice you stupid noble bitch. But noooooo.

A proverb comes to mind; stay silent if you have nothing clever to say. You'll appear smarter.

>... and that's why you never pull a fight with the town's blacksmith.

And this is why I said we shouldn't shove any more on the secrecy issue. Exactly this, in fact. I saw the potential for conflict 'tween K and Lia because of us and you. If Lia didn't trust us, why would being suspicious of her and tossing accusations in her face improve that?

Learn from this, Player. Losing your temper with someone you should be working with never helps. Listen to yourself!

"Why am I supposed to give my life for yours?"

When was that ever the issue? Lia didn't make you choose a life of adventuring. You did. She didn't make you stick around once you met demons and the dungeon got closed. You did. She didn't make you decide to try to do this to help people. You did. And for most of the right reasons too.

So... get on with the program. Go find Sun, send him here, and then head off. I think it's time you dove back into that dungeon and give tempers a chance to cool down.

>Give 'er a peck on the cheek to comfort her...

Not. The. Time.

eah, no kissing, that would just... be bad.

>>250318
Pat on the shoulder at most, and even then it's likely to get you a punch.

> Lia didn't make you choose a life of adventuring. You did. She didn't make you stick around once you met demons and the dungeon got closed. You did.

we are not blaming Lia that player choosed the life of a adventurer. we are blaming the demons for putting everything in high stakes, lia just happens to know what their hand is.

if you didnt realized player is no longer a "adventurer". he really isnt any more adventurer that a textbook definition of a superhero is a adventurer.

this isnt happening here just for the money, nor for the loot. there are no quests to be made (literally), the danger is now stratospheric and we are still in the need to do it. dammit, we barely managed to save the town of a reaally, reaaaaly small boss.

what is next, a APC with a teleport ring inside? what are we supposed to do? be dense and retarded to the situation and leave everyone to die?

player, if you are going to get Sun, you will need to stay low. it would be better if you could organize a evacuation of the town if you really want to give up on the dungeon, but this may get you arrested, so its up to you.

>>250319
>Lia didn't make you choose a life of adventuring. You did. She didn't make you stick around once you met demons and the dungeon got closed. You did. She didn't make you decide to try to do this to help people. You did. And for most of the right reasons too.

That's exactly it. He chose to help people, and she's intentionally withholding information that could help him help them. More than that, she's trying to keep Miss K from helping us either.
This isn't just about Player's life, this is about everybody who will die or worse if nobody can prevent the demons from attacking the town. At this point player is the only person they have; if he fails, they all die.

Player, go tell Sun to head to Miss K's place. After that, well, you might as well go find that guard so you can talk to him. Alone.

Let's go.

>>250334

I beg to differ. Whatever Player faced with Charlotte and Charlotte's mom, it was definitely not a 'small boss'.

And, as Lia rightly pointed out, we don't KNOW what else the demons have, or even what they're up to. The only way we'll find out is by going down there. If they have so effective tools of conquest and carnage, why didn't they use them already in their first attempt?

It's a fair toss-up between there ACTUALLY being something worse, or it just being a lone shotgun they happened to have acquired. Recall, it could just be an ancient relic they've recovered. The 'honor guard' Charlotte had certainly didn't use shotguns, if you recall what we saw back then.

Finally, Player is most definitely an adventurer. Why wouldn't he still be in this to make a name and some silver for himself? It's not like that makes him any less a decent person. Crawling is his career, that's just how it is, as I understand it.

>>250336

This village certainly has more than Player to rely on against threats. Case in point: The dungeon guards. Case in second point: Whatever reinforcements is arriving from the larger cities within the next week. Player is the only one who will be actively seeking out the demons and face them in their lair(s), but that does not mean this village is defenseless or without support.

But, let's adress something important:

People are different, and not always easy to trust. If you think it is enough for some stranger to say 'you must help me so that I can help you' to get someone to offer aid and trust, you are sadly mistaken.

What am I talking about? Well, from her point of view, Lia does not have good reasons to trust or like Player.

Let's list them, why don't we?

-He's listening to and being guided by what is, in her opinion, an ambigous, possibly manipulative match-making (*cough*pervert*cough*) orb full of wild opinions and dangerous ideas, one that she has developed a clear distaste for. Point against Player.

-He's faced demons with dangerous weapons and suspiciously returned alive and unharmed from such a match, despite her knowledge of just how dangerous guns and demons are. Humans sometimes collaborate with demons. Player wouldn't, but how would she know that? Another point against him.

-He's wanted by the local guards for something stupid he's done. Chalk up 'nother.

-He's placing one of her friends at risk by dragging her into the mess he's embroiled in. Her friend. Potentially getting in trouble. Because of some golddigging scoundrel of a crawler. Of course she'd be resentful and want to get rid off him and encourage her friend not to help him.

-He's being obnoxious and demanding she break trust against whatever her, possibly sacred, role as a keeper of secrets is. That'd be the straw that breaks the donkey's proverbial back.

So hop down from the high-falutin' horse. There were different ways to gain her trust, and you advocated aggravating self-rightousness that was bound to grate against her.

Now we don't get whatever thingy Miss K was working on, we don't get to check out the different 'tones' she spoke off, we certainly don't get Lia's trust anytime soon and we may not be able to count on Miss K's support as surely.

So, this ain't great, you'll agree. Not unfixable, but anything but great.

>>250371
>support in a week
>helpful if demons attack tomorrow.
lol wut?

>>250384

>Guarantee demons attack tomorrow.
>Where?

>>250371

We're in a bad situation, emphasizing it won't fix it. We were irritating about it, but the fact that Miss K even stood up for us means that at least she believes that we're not wrong about it. When she cools off, maybe she will tell us about the tones and crossbow later on.

Now, since we currently have no objective other than run into the dungeon and pay the dungeon guards a visit to give them their halberd back, may I suggest that we should probably not plan on coming up until we can prove that they have advanced technology?

>>250394

A trust she may be regretting, after having clocked her friend hard enough to lose teeth. Had I been in her shoes, I most certainly would be considering my actions deeply, and with regret.

...Still, I'll refrain from pointing out the extent of the mistakes of my peers in the future. I just wish you folks would have more of a care that some advice may cause unfortunate encounters like that one.

I know we're not the most diplomatic of orbs, but please, give it a try, and don't just abandon all sense of restraint when you don't get what you want. That's what cost us aid from the Twins. And however people in this town may act towards Player, as a crawler he needs their support, directly or indirectly, as much as they need Player's.

Where, for example, would Player be now without Manuel's torches? Where would he be without Father McLaughing's gift of silver, or his holy water? Without anyone to sell goods to, supply him with a meal or a place to rest?

You reap what you sow. He's already having to be wary of the guards because of the whole debacle with the halberd and his re-entry into the now-forbidden dungeon (which is why I advice returning the halberd by a proxy). He can't keep alienating people like Lia, who might have been helping him, albeit not in the manner some of us would have preferred.

>>250305

Get some ammonium chloride, or the mineral sal ammoniac, and dissolve it in water. That will make the water chill for no obvious reason. It will also make it slightly acidic, so use a container to keep it away from the skin.

>>250371
to my understanding, the demons havent used more guns because it does not belong to them "directly". the dude wielding it was a bit "stranger" that the usual, pehaps to the point he would be a emissary from another demon family.

but you have JUST touched the information Lia posess. we do not know if they can manufacture guns to power up a army, we do not know if they can make more ammo or the expensive black smokeless gunpower needed to make it good.

we do not know how well they are trained, or even if they are trained asides "point hole to the enemy, squeeze trigger till victory".

what if they know gun-specific strategy? everything could literally go to hell because of a skilled sniper, let alone a silenced gun wielding dude that knows dynamic entry.

>>250385
it was to my understanding that player is going in tomorrow. this will put the demon's plan on that dungeon in a checkmate.

with the summons on the dungeon dimming quickly, the local monsters dying and the sudden clearance of adventurers not getting in the dungeon, its likely that even with charlottes (possible) death they will have to decide on something drastic before the dungeon is properly cleared for high level adventurers.