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1105237 No. 1105237 ID: f1368b

Jess the fox and Henry the wolf navigate their marriage and friendships. Updates every other day.

Discussion thread: https://questden.org/kusaba/questdis/res/135483.html

NSFW, contains BDSM and casual bigotry
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No. 1105238 ID: f1368b
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>Recap
Jess and Henry got married about two years ago. Henry cut off his left hand ring finger for their honeymoon. Henry works as a nurse and Jess does an administrative job from home. They purchased a townhouse in the city. Jess is a trans man and hid that from Henry for a while because the wolf is stubbornly straight.

Jess’s friends are Sophie, Kai, and Terrence.

Henry’s friends are Victor and Mahan. Becca, his college ex, is currently upset with him.

>Rules
1. Henry and Jess only do sex stuff the other person involved consents to
2. The POV alternates between Jess and Henry after time skips
3. The setting is a modern earth analog where mundane physical reality applies
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No. 1105239 ID: f1368b
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>26 months after the wedding
Jess stretches out on the carpeted floor, phone to the side set with a five minute timer while she rests on her forearms, butt in line with her legs and shoulders. The fox joined a gym near the townhouse and she’s seen decent improvement in four months' time: her upper arms have more definition and she’s shed her soft belly. Reasonable gains for someone with her testosterone levels.

Miraculously, her friends STILL don’t know about Henry’s finger since the wolf dipped out of the housewarming party. They finished their DnD campaign with a bottle of cheap champagne to celebrate before Kai left to residency in New York, and they’ve been on the hunt for a trustworthy new player since. Hard to find a well-adjusted, nerdy adult who’s not already busy with work or extracurriculars.

Argh, her core is starting to get tired only a minute and a half into the hover. Five minutes is soooooo lonnnnnng.

A. Focus on endurance–hold firm!
B. Cheat a little by shifting weight from arm to arm
C. Admit defeat, aim for three minutes instead
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No. 1105241 ID: d30887

D) Think carefully about how Henry wants to control your body fat content. Then ask yourself: how much of it can you personally control?
Push yourself with a bargain: if you can push yourself just to improve then you don't need to listen to Henry. If you have a strong will then you have the strength to convince him to be your own person. Otherwise, you might need to admit defeat and live with the pudge-love.
What do you want when you're under stress?
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No. 1105242 ID: 23cf5d

A is what you wanna do, but
C is what you settle with.
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No. 1105261 ID: d58817

A. No pain, no gain.

How's Henry been? Can you tell? The time he got mad and fucked you seemed like it might have led to some detente, but he was beside himself at the party. How've things been since?
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No. 1105262 ID: c5529d

B. Yeah, it's cheating, but once you get used to it, you'll be able to do it without cheating in the future.
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No. 1105266 ID: 8f4d55

>>1105242
Support makes sense
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No. 1105278 ID: cb76eb

B
Progress until you don't need it
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No. 1105286 ID: 8f4d55

>>1105261
Will make up sex you manipulate him into be as effective now without the gain? And how is becca and you managed to avoid the issue of your friends knowing about your henrys missing finger so that must be a relief wonder if they heard him
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No. 1105311 ID: 53b30a

B. cheat a little
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No. 1105316 ID: 5e7485

>>1105239
B
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No. 1105333 ID: 78bd3b

I'd say either A, or A given up for C, like >>1105242 proposes. You are trying to better yourelf, but you still stumble.

>Narrator calls Jess "she".
Sounds like a new arrangement has been made between the two lovebirds, but was it an amiable one?

>Kai left for intership.
SKITISH JACKAL! NOOOO! Congratulations on the new job, thouuuugh!
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No. 1105334 ID: f1368b
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>B, fake it to make it
It’s amazing how much of a difference it makes when she gives her muscles a micro-break. Jess leans on one arm in a kind of half side hover, then swaps, tail swaying to help keep her balance. It still hurts like hell, but at a more manageable level.

>How’s Henry?
Poor thing’s set up camp at the depression stage of grief between her coming out again and Becca wanting space. Jess is glad he doesn’t want a divorce, but if this keeps up she’ll need to consider if they should separate for their own good.

>How’s Becca?
Jess hasn’t tried to contact her. Victor or Mahan would let them know if anything really bad happened.
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No. 1105335 ID: f1368b
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>How’s sex been going?
When it happens, which is maybe once a week, it’s been visceral and raw and awesome. She doesn’t push Henry for anything, he’s been the one initiating.

It makes Jess feel excited and tingly whenever he uses male pronouns for her. Of course she’s still fine with feminine pronouns especially since they’re convenient, and it’s not like Mahan would gender her properly if she tried to do a hard swap, so might as well stick with ‘em for now.

The phone alarm rings and Jess collapses onto her stomach with a groan. Despite his misery, Henry’s still a functioning adult, at work right now on his second shift of the week. Maybe she should try doing something nice for him when he gets home?
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No. 1105341 ID: cb76eb

A hot meal and a gentle touch might be a good place to start.
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No. 1105342 ID: bfd8fc

Cooking dinner will be appreciated, but that may not be special enough to make an impression. Maybe you could pick up a co-op game to play together? It wouldn't be intimate, so it wouldn't hammer in the gender issue further, and it'd give you a bridge to try and interact and help him work through some of his feelings.

He's not gonna get over things on his own. You're going to need to talk about things directly, but just as important will be interactions where you're just trying to enjoy one another's company.
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No. 1105362 ID: 7c0e25

>>1105342
Honestly yeah, as weird as it is to say, the intimacy may have to take a back seat to actually solving the issue. The best way to do this is to just become friends again, play games together, watch some stupid movies and riff on them, just stuff you used to do with each other before you married, hell maybe even before you both started dating.
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No. 1105367 ID: 0db8d3

Hmm...
The Becca thing sucks but I doubt it's often front and center in Henry's mind.
Given the time that's passed, he's probably over mourning the fact that you aren't gonna be soft and subby.
Meanwhile the amount of consistency he's been putting into using male pronouns for you is... Well given the circumstances pretty impressive.
It's clear he still very much loves, respects, and is attracted to you.
This means that whatever is still upsetting him about this is largely in his head. He's having trouble adapting. Hell this could very well be a crisis of identity for him.
Thus, whatever you do for him should make the path easier for him.

I can think of two ways to help this.
First, in whatever you do, be extra thoughtful and romantic. Like pretend y'all are still dating and you're trying to impress him- which now that I think of it, is probably a place you two never were, isn't it? You two had more of a whirlwind romance. This should be fun.

Second thing you could do is casually be more risque, flirtatious, even seductive around him- but still don't initiate things yourself, just come close, tow that line. Every time Henry initiates sex with you is a choice he makes the reinforces his place in this new situation, this reality. The act makes it real but it's the decision that matters. The more he decides to fuck you the more he heals. Thus, if you can persuade him to have sex with you more often while letting him think it's still his idea, he should get better a fair bit faster.
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No. 1105370 ID: f2320a

>>1105362
basically browbeat him with the nostalgia but there is perhaps some worry over becoming less attractive to him as he just does not like muscles at all or anything thats slightly more masculine in body
>>1105367
he seemed very devastated over it he did not just lose a sex partner he lost a friend he has had for years upon years long before you Jess you may need to grab Becca out of her Funk and use her do you happen to know what exactly was said and happened between them?
does it even need to be just in his head if he is being constantly reminded, and the sex the first time was when you did something insensitive
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No. 1105431 ID: e3bad7

>basically browbeat him with the nostalgia

No. Actually trying to rekindle the spark, find what was lost and heal. It doesn't just have to be stuff they did before they started dating too, but it can be actual dates, new ideas as well. Going on dates to new places and doing new things that don't just involve getting kinky. Actually falling in love with each other all over again.
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No. 1105441 ID: 19ea25

>>1105431
That and Browbeating someone with Nostalgia is just going to make him want what was before.
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No. 1105463 ID: f1368b
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1105463

>A hot, comforting meal to start the conversation
Jess’ll make some extra thick chicken noodle soup once she’s done with the rest of her workout.

>Henry’s still the same wonderful wolf, rekindle the spark
>Help him with his mental block
That’s a great idea! Henry is still respectful, kind, and clearly attracted to her since he still wants to have sordid kinky sex on the regular. Her body hasn’t changed that much, even if she does work out more, so his issue must be more with his mind and self-identity as a boring American hetero husband.

>Is there anything Jess can do about Becca?
Apart from getting even more chummy with Victor and Mahan to learn all of the dog’s secrets, not really.

>Encourage him to have more sex via risque flirting
It has been a while since she’s been actively seductive. About time for her to use her charms again, when appropriate.
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No. 1105464 ID: f1368b
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Jess finds an old container of chicken stock in the freezer from an experiment reusing a rotisserie carcass and sets it on the counter to thaw while she starts chopping vegetables. Soup is pretty easy, all things considered, and she spends extra time sweating the onions and adding spices until it’s time to put everything together to simmer.

She sits on the sofa and absently reads from a random book she picked up during a library sale until Henry slinks into the townhouse with the air of a beaten dog.

“Hi honey!” she says brightly. “Come have dinner before the noodles get too mushy.”

Once she’s trapped him at the counter where they take their meals, Jess goes on the offensive.

“Let’s go on a date this weekend, Henry. We could watch a movie, go out to eat, get a beer with Mahan, something casual and fun.”

“Oh.” Henry keeps direct eye contact with his bowl of soup. “Okay?”

“Do you have a preference? Is there anything you’ve been itchin’ to try?”

“Not really. You can pick.”

Plan Jess and Henry’s weekend date! Should Jess invite any of their friends?
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No. 1105466 ID: d30887

He seems uncomfy. Let him milk your pecs!
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No. 1105467 ID: 2940d0

The beach episode (if there is one) alternatively, the pool
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No. 1105475 ID: 047965

>>1105467
The Beach is a good idea! Maybe a nice picnic lunch on the beach. Go get some summer sun with your husband!
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No. 1105494 ID: 12fa3a

A Movie date sounds like a good idea, pick something both of you will like. I think it's for the best if you don't invite any friends this time.
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No. 1105495 ID: 23cf5d

>>1105467
+1 For the beach idea, Henry needs the relaxation and sightseeing.
Speaking of sights, any nude beaches in town?
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No. 1105497 ID: 6c233e

A nice nature hike where the two of you will be alone together for hours with no distractions. No way to avoid a confrontation then.
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No. 1105515 ID: 0db8d3

Something outdoorsy like a beach or hiking trip followed by something chill, like a moovy.
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No. 1105519 ID: f2320a

>>1105464
is it just me to does it look like he is gritting his teeth like i can see teeth and the corner of his mouth is pronounced and angular?
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No. 1105528 ID: f1368b
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>Henry and Jess America location check
>Weed is legal
>Weather includes all four seasons, disqualifies most of California
>Not New York
>9 eligible states: Massachusetts selected randomly
Kai is only a modest road trip away, along with both the Appalachian Mountains and the beach. Unfortunately, the cost of living is pretty steep…

>Henry seems unhappy
Well, yes, that’s what lingering existential depression and a 12 hour shift on one’s feet will do to a wolf.

>Beach, don’t invite friends
Outdoors, relaxing, and a good excuse to wear something sexy. Jess plans to bring tuna sandwiches, homemade lemonade, and pasta salad in a little basket.

>Nude beach?
Jess does a little research on the state subreddit. It seems like nude beaches are less and less common in the age of cellphones and the commodification of public spaces. Too much trouble to drive to and investigate the few that remain.
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No. 1105529 ID: f1368b
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>Paper doll
Draw, describe, or post picture references of Jess’s beach outfit.
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No. 1105530 ID: c5529d
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1105530

first idea: If you wanna do something with a bit of risk along with sexy, try bodypaint.
Challenge is to try not to get wet. So sadly no swimming, but you can do other beach activities
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No. 1105531 ID: c5529d
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1105531

second idea: sling bikini.
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No. 1105534 ID: 047965

>>1105530
I'll suspend my disbelief for the body paint (I'm curious to see how that would work on fox fur). But here's a thought, what if it was a bikini with the crotch and nips cut out and paint those over.
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No. 1105536 ID: 6c233e

>>1105534
Now thats a fun idea
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No. 1105541 ID: 0db8d3

>>1105534
Thirding
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No. 1105545 ID: cb76eb

Big sun hat, bikini top and bottoms (with extra standard swim trunks and loose oversized shirt you can take off for a strip tease bonus) and a hip wrap. Sarong? Whatever, it's coming off anyways.
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No. 1105546 ID: d30887

Bind your chest with anime bandages. The rest is half-inch thick shorts.
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No. 1105619 ID: f1368b
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1105619

>Cut holes in the cheapest black bikini she owns and paint over her crotch and nips
>Sarong and one of Henry’s Hawaiian shirts on top
Sufficiently daring to get Jess’s blood pumping, with layers that can be used to maintain modesty for the children’s sake or for a strip tease for Henry’s.

Her husband dons a standard pair of swim shorts and his own floral shirt. With the food packed, they hop in the car and start the hour or so drive to the nearest beach. Jess tries to make smalltalk when she sees something interesting on the highway ads or in the occasional horse pastures, and to her relief Henry responds. Now that it’s the weekend he should have a bit more energy!
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No. 1105620 ID: f1368b
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1105620

The full heat of a Massachusetts summer only musters mid-seventies near the frigid waters of the Atlantic. Between her fur and the outfit, Jess thinks it’s perfect. A lot of other people seem to think so too, the beach is dotted with people having their own summer fun.

What does Jess do first?
A. Talk seriously
B. Eat suggestively
C. Strip seductively and go play in the water
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No. 1105623 ID: 7d5b2c

B, start cooking this dog
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No. 1105624 ID: c5529d

B, if we wanna talk serious, we do it somewhere private, this is a time to relax and have fun, eat!
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No. 1105625 ID: bfd8fc

B, don't start with the water, work up to that.
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No. 1105640 ID: 53b30a

C. Time to show off all that hard work you put into your body and to test if that body paint is waterproof.
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No. 1105641 ID: d30887

B) Pretend to have a serious talk but the subject is about how you're going to have his baby by screwing him until his penis is on backwards
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No. 1105687 ID: f1368b
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1105687

>B
Her tuna sandwich is dripping with mayo, relish, and lemon juice. Jess can squeeze a few fishy drops onto her chest to imply far lewder pale liquids, hell it’ll probably happen by accident since she’s not eating at a table. Henry always liked when she put on a show for him while she ate.

“That drive made me hungry, let’s have lunch first.” she says brightly.

They pick a dry spot on the edge of where the waves have soaked the sand a dark brown and open the basket. Jess carefully unwraps their sandwiches and settles into the sun warmed spot, shirt unbuttoned and showing off her painted nipples. At this range Henry can definitely see them.
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No. 1105688 ID: f1368b
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1105688

Sure enough, the white bread is soaked through with savory sandwich juices and she feels some gush out with her first bite. All according to plan.

She makes lots of hums and moans of pleasure, because it also tastes pretty damn good thanks to a splash of hot sauce and fresh red onion. Henry’s ears twitch and he quickly lowers his own sandwich.

“You don’t have to do that for my benefit, I know you don’t like it.” he mutters, barely audible above the waves.

“Wuh?”

“I know you’re not into feeder stuff, you don’t have to pretend to get a rise out of me. I don’t want you to do something you’re not comfortable with!” Henry snaps.
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No. 1105690 ID: 7d5b2c

Bro is missing the point, it's not the food it's the show. Ask him to clean you up, or maybe make a bigger mess on your tits.
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No. 1105691 ID: 23cf5d

>>1105688
First off, introspection time! Aren't you? You (had) a (somewhat) solid stance on identity.
Definitely want muscles and large shoulders, but never addressed fat weight; compromise (Musclegut) maybe? Or is it a complete and indeniable nono?

Thoughts aside, tell him you actually do enjoy that sandwich, and were hungry. But you were trying to make things more enjoyable for him but are sorry if that struck a nerve.
Does he want to talk about it, what's going on in there that's working him up so much?
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No. 1105693 ID: 0db8d3

*Deadpan*
Babe, I was eating so much I was starting to hate food. I'm totally fine with food play.

Now then, are you gonna keep overthinking things, or would you rather be seduced by your sexy fox sluttily slamming a sandwich?
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No. 1105694 ID: dbc571

>>1105688
Alright. Finish your meal and get some sun. Can we switch to Henry? We need to get in his head here.
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No. 1105697 ID: 6c233e

Its true, He's going to have a hard time telling when you are being genuine now. All you can do is reassure him you're doing this because you want to. But he doesn't really have reason to trust your word, does he?
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No. 1105708 ID: bfd8fc

Tell him that you're not trying to pretend anything. You're just trying to cheer him up, and she knows this is something that makes him happy. You may not share the kink, but you're hungry, and you enjoy the sandwich you've prepared for yourself.

You understand why he's finding it hard to trust you, but you're going to get through that together if you want to make this work.
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No. 1105797 ID: f1368b
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Jess chews and swallows. “I mean, I was trying to get you excited because I like getting my husband hot and bothered, but I’m also eating a really good sandwich, dude. It’s not on the same level as the stuff we were doing before that made me upset.”

Henry glares at her. There’ve been an increasing number of these looks in the past few months and Jess isn’t sure she likes it anymore. “I don’t know if I trust you.”

“Okay. Do you wanna talk about it?” she offers.

“Yeah, actually. Would you or would you not be on T if you didn’t have to worry about keeping me happy?”

She doesn’t have to think long to answer this one. “On T, yeah. Muscles are cool.”

Henry points accusatorily like he’s caught her in some groundbreaking lie. “So therefore by staying with me you’re doing something you’re not comfortable with for my benefit! Your feminine body causes you some degree of dysphoria.”
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No. 1105798 ID: f1368b
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1105798

“Don’t overthink it Henry, it’s the same thing where I have the free will to make sacrifices for a greater reward. Eat sandwich messy to tease husband, don’t take T to stay with very nice and awesome husband.” Jess explains.

She sneaks another bite of the sandwich because she did a great job on it, honestly.

“Yuh can geh sedu’ed or yuh can tell muh ta stop ‘f yuh don like it.” she offers.

>Henry choice check (2/3 in favor of seduced because of previous HATE SEX choice): Failure
Henry hesitates, eyes darting to her messy chest. He frowns and shakes his head.

“I don’t like it.”

“Then I won’t do it.”

“Great.”

“Cool.”

Well that was an abysmal failure. Jess grabs a paper napkin to dab at her fur and proceeds to eat her sandwich normally. She’s not sure what to do next.
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No. 1105799 ID: 202261

Time to hit the Earth's natural bath. Go for a dip in the ocean. Will your fur paint last in the water?
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No. 1105801 ID: bfd8fc

Maybe try to keep the conversation going before trying any more horny shenanigans.

Tell him that you aren't resentful of the fact that you aren't on testosterone for his sake. If it was a sticking point you really couldn't get past, then you would end things there and do it. It's a trade-off, like getting up a bit earlier to make a nice breakfast before work or paying more to have food delivered so that you don't have to drive and get it.

You understand why he doesn't trust you though, because for a long time you thought the same about your gender identity. You thought you'd be okay with presenting as a woman, and you were for a while, but over time it ended up eating at you more than you expected. And no, you can't promise that will never happen with testosterone. Maybe a year from now, you'll want it more than you could have ever expected.

You want to share a life with Henry though, and that's a deal-breaker for him. He's made a pretty strong commitment himself already, considering the missing digit. If you can promise anything, it's that you won't spring it on him, the way you did with your transition. If it starts to eat at you, you'll talk to him about it, and you'll try to find alternatives that'll soothe the desire.
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No. 1105806 ID: 0db8d3

You know, I wasn't like... Quietly Suffering back then, right? Like I wasn't pretending to be happy with you, I actually was- and am. If things aren't ideal then I just find a way to make them fun. It's just... It became so much at once that it became frustrating. Stressful. Un-fun. That's why I came clean when I did. I didn't want to pretend. I knew that would end up sucking for both of us. That said I don't mind compromising on some things... Even if I'm left with a couple holes in my soul, I'm confident in your ability to fill them.
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No. 1105812 ID: 9cf27f

Leave him with his thoughts, Tell him you’re going to sunbathe, if he wants to talk, you’ll listen, if he wants to silently rest and enjoy the sun with you, you’ll be happy with that too.
Maybe he can get a good look at your swimsuit this way and notice something off, heehee
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No. 1105881 ID: 64f2a4

>>1105812
This, is guess. Might as well get some sun.

Can I be real here with everyone for a second? This relationship is bound to end badly if this keeps up. I know Jess loves Henry, but is it really best for them if they are in this relationship trying to make it work if they are both miserable? Jess may be trying to be acting business as usual, but it’s clear Henry ain’t there. And after everything that’s been happening, he ain’t going to be okay for a while now. He misses the person he thought Jess was and is now bitter because he feels this “new” Jess stole them away from him. This will only make Jess feel bad and bound to hurt them even more in the future. So I know we are trying to rekindle something but dudes, at some point this ship may not be salvageable. Sorry for the rant, I am trying to think of what is best for both of them to be happy in the end.
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No. 1105907 ID: f1368b
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>Talk a little more
“Henry, I wasn’t pretending to be happy before–I really was happy to be with you and I still am. I don’t know how many times or how many ways I can tell you that to get you to believe me.” Jess pleads.

“The problem isn’t that I don’t believe you, Jess, the problem is I’m still keeping you from being how you want to be! I’m the barrier and I’m always going to be the barrier because of–because you’re a decent person and want me to be comfortable with your body.”

Henry’s gesticulations get a little wilder and Jess glances around to make sure no one’s paying too close attention to their argument. She doesn’t want some well-meaning lady to come by asking if she needs to get away from her big bad husband.

“It means I’m bad and that bothers me because I don’t like being bad.” Henry explains. “I try really hard to be good, actually, because something in who I am wants to be good. Does that even make sense?”

“Yes it does, but when you’re frustrated with yourself it makes it more stressful when you’re frustrated with me too.”

“Well yeah, I’m also mad that you basically tricked me into getting married.”

“I did lie to you.”

“And that’s more bad energy on top of this whole mess! Agh, I should just shut up.” Henry shuffles his legs so he’s facing slightly away from her and takes a big bite of the food.
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No. 1105908 ID: f1368b
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>Sunbathe
There’s a cool ocean breeze coming off the waves and Jess quickly finishes eating, takes off her shirt and sarong, and stretches out with her stomach on the dry sand to soak in the warmth of the sun. She closes her eyes and listens to Henry working on his sandwich. For the first time, she seriously wonders if it would be better if they got a divorce.

Kids are probably never going to happen at this point and Jess won’t be able to put up with Henry being grumpy and bitter forever, even if the sex is great. Divorce would be agony for both of them in the short run, but they’re young and could find new partners. It’s a natural continuation of the consequences of revealing her secret.

Or she could suck it up and keep trying with the fun date ideas since this is only the first attempt. It’s good that Henry is communicating with her, even if it doesn’t seem like they’re making progress.

A. Don’t give up!
B. This isn’t going to work
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No. 1105909 ID: bfd8fc

A. I don't think this relationship is unsalvageable yet. If Henry ever decides that it is, then sure, he's allowed to make that choice, but you still see potential in staying together.

Maybe ask if he'd want to go to couple's therapy, or if he'd rather keep working out his feelings as he's been doing. I think his natural impulse would be the latter, but I think you should make it clear that you'd prefer the former. Not because you think there's a problem with him feeling bad in response to everything, but because sooner or later he's going to need to finish processing his feelings so that he can feel good again, and so that y'all can figure out where this relationship is going. If he's up for it, it'd be a good sign that he's still open to trying to make this work.

Also, tell him you love him. He probably knows, but it never hurts to repeat the sentiment.
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No. 1105910 ID: d30887

If his actions send you to the hospital, that's the point where you need to cut off.
Until then, though, you're still in a position of power and influence to salvage this relationship. What matters is that he continues to treat you like a person he wants to love, and you can rebuild your relationship from there. If he loses it and treats you like a slab of meat, there's no saving that.
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No. 1105911 ID: 4e436a

Unless one of you is willing to give up a deeply held dream in order to satisfy the other, the marriage probably won't work. Henry would have to give up on being married to a feminine woman, or you'd have to give up on transitioning, and I don't think either of you are willing to do those things or ask the other to do those things. A marriage isn't about power or influence over the other, you cannot maintain a true relationship unless both partners are fully willing to maintain it. To insist otherwise is to place an unequal yoke upon your partner, and that point, are you even really partners anymore?

Also,
> It’s a natural continuation of the consequences of revealing her secret.

Yes, marriages formed under false pretenses don't tend to be healthy, lasting ones. This is supposed to be a lifelong partnership, not something built on a foundation of sand.
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No. 1105924 ID: 6c233e

B) If two people want different things out of a relationship, its better to break it off now rather than drag it out over years. You thought you could fight through dysphoria, but it clearly got to you. That will only grow into resentment over time.
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No. 1105925 ID: 2065e1

>>1105911
All this was triggered by a bout of edging where jess could not admit that it was to much for her beacuse of the competative spirit and henrys confidence has been sort of damaged by the shock collar thing.
Also been thinking if this continued i had basically planned for becca to be the surrogate or birthmother and jess gets to be dads with Henry
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No. 1105928 ID: 23cf5d

A)

Wanting different things from your partner is natural.
The question is how much different; is the difference way too much, and how much of it is insurmountable.
If Henry is internalizing the whole situation, and actually attempting to accept some of it, that's his choice of how to cope with the situation and he might come to term with it, or decide it is way too much and ask himself if breaking is unavoidable, so its at least worth a try, he's just saying he needs time.

You did lie, but then you told the truth, stop beating yourself over it being a natural continuation of anything, it really isn't, you tried to right a wrong and you did, having a relationship while continuing to hide behind a lie would've been much more hurtful in the long run for yourself and having a relation that started with a lie but then was rebuilt on trust is already a step in the right path.

Now Henry knows what this is about, everybody knows what they want, and believing it can or cannot work is completely up to both parties willingness to accept things for what they are and compromising, or deciding if things aren't worth the effort and giving up.

If you still ask yourself the question then you're unsure, and if you're unsure then you're not yet ready to give up, now you could always just enjoy the date the best you can, let Henry come to term with his own choices, eventually time will heal the wounds and he won't be grumpy forever (this is practically impossible) and ask him later if he thinks breaking up is something he'd want, because it's not like your entire marriage was build around your gender, there has been other factors and reasons that led you both to decide it was something you wanted.

This sort of decision isn't something you decide yourself without asking your partner, and maybe find some counseling somewhere.
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No. 1105933 ID: 0db8d3

A.
Henry is overthinking this so bad. Like. If you're happy then he's not preventing you from being... well you, right?And that kinda makes sense. Marriage is the sort of partnership where your identity gets wound up with someone else, after-all. That aside, if you're happy then what's the problem in the first place?

In fact. Tell him that.
If you're happy, then he's not doing anything wrong or bad to you. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that.
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No. 1105935 ID: 81f1c7

Alright heavy shit aside, you didn't go through the effort of preparing this outfit for nothin', right?
Flick that tail, wiggle that butt. He's close enough to notice if his eyes land in the right spot.

Yeah the mood's weird now, but goddamnit maybe this date can be salvaged if you can short-circuit his brain and drag his mind back to the present instead of... Wherever the fuck it is right now.
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No. 1105937 ID: 99a466

A

I recommend against repeated attempts at seduction. Henry has made his position clear, and he's not in a mood to be tempted. If you keep trying, you're showing disrespect for his feelings and boundaries.

He's a big old softie! He's only mean to you when he thinks you'll like it, or maybe when there's no other way to get through to you. You gotta show that you get the message. The date was supposed to be fun, but it's also a break from routine; a new venue might be a good opportunity to talk things over from a fresh perspective. If you can find a stretch of beach to walk along that's private enough, or a deserted corner near an ice cream stand, maybe try broaching some of the big topics.

The two big ones he just cited are 1) that he wants you to be happy, and he doesn't want to stand in the way of your happiness, and 2) he feels like he can't trust you. This is a thorny combo: if he feels like he can't trust you, then he won't trust that you're really satisfied when you say you are. You have to tell it to him in a way he'll believe, and that might be hard for you. You've been telling him that you're happy enough, and that you see it as a worthwhile compromise to forego some things that would be nice to have in your life to have him, but that hasn't worked; it's not what he's looking for. He's a softy, he's sensitive, and he loves you--he doesn't want you to have to compromise, and every time you tell him he's worth a few sacrifices is a reminder that because he's here with you, you're not the person you wish you were. Your psycopathy might make it difficult to understand, but Henry doesn't want to negotiate or make a deal with you--he wants desperately to be able to help you live the life you want to live, and he's frightened and hurt at the idea that he might not fit into that life.

You need to feel out new boundaries. Ask him how he feels about the situation, and just listen. Have you talked much about what your transition means for you(pl) as a couple? I get the sense that it's been happening mostly on your own initiative, and he's been on the outside looking in. Talk about your plans and wishes, and ask how he feels about them. Don't try to make offers to him right now, he's not looking for concessions; and don't try to discount his concerns, he wants to be heard and respected. And if you can think up any broad romantic gesture, doing something that will remind him of your first date, or when your proposal happened, or some event that made you two decide you were right for each other, lean into it. That's the sort of thing that will help him understand that you really do value your relationship, and want it to continue. Treating your relationship as an exercise in haggling will not speak to his romantic heart.
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No. 1105985 ID: f1368b
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>A
Henry is a big softie who’s super cute and loves her for who she is, in all her unnerving glory. It would be a terrible waste to give up on him so quickly. As she bakes in the sand, the sting of rejection evaporates in the sun and Jess feels ready and eager to dive back into Henry’s brain. He probably needs a break though, so she’ll plot for now.

>What if Henry loses it and hurts her badly?
Hot, but very unlikely. Henry is notoriously sober apart from a few drinks now and then and would literally never forgive himself.

>Couples’ therapy?
A good idea if things get too thorny for her to fix by herself. For now she’d like to save a couple thousand bucks.

>Speaking of money, can they get a surrogate?
Prohibitively expensive, and they’ll lose out on all the fun of lactation and impregnation play. A lot of good things can come of this, the Double Income No Kids lifestyle will help them pay off the townhouse in no time and they can start putting money into fun stuff like vacations or a second car.
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No. 1105986 ID: f1368b
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>Henry’s thinking about it, which means he can process and move past it
That’s right! And he wants what’s best for her, even if that tangles him into a logic knot. She can try more romantic gestures and thoughtful talks for their next date.

>What about the dysphoria?
It only bothered her before because the combined weight gain and orgasm denial mental funk was pissing her off. If they avoid that she should be happy with her modest gains.

She flicks her tail as she thinks and perks up when she feels Henry scoot closer.

“You know, It’s really easy to see your pussy when you spread your legs. Aren’t you scared some poor kid is going to notice and get traumatized from the indecent exposure?” he asks, not bothering to whisper since the waves stop their words from carrying.

“That’s why I’m facing this way, all the kids are playing near the water, which is the fun part of the beach.”

“Well, what happens when your husband gets jealous of all the men getting an eyeful of his wife?” His hand creeps onto her thigh and squeezes gently.

Jess wags her tail harder. Food play is off the table but it sounds like general horny behavior at the beach isn’t!

A. Ask to be fingered
B. Give him a discrete handjob
C. Other (suggest lewd activity that won’t draw too much attention)
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No. 1105987 ID: 6c233e

A) well if he's worried about your bikini bottom situation guess he'd better "adjust" them
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No. 1105988 ID: c438a4

A. "If you're so worried, why don't you put your hand there and cover it?"
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No. 1105993 ID: cfbe63

>>1105986
Both a and b at once, quid pro quo and all that.
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No. 1105995 ID: d30887

C) Time for the dog to bury you in the sand!
(With a vibrator)
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No. 1105996 ID: 0db8d3

C.
This is a perfect time for Public Sexy H O R S E
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No. 1105997 ID: c5529d

A. From his actions, it looks like he wants to be in control of this. Let him

I wouldn't do it both, would make it too obvious
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No. 1106020 ID: 9b24ca

A
Scope out a discreet place to escalate things. If nothing stands out, there's always the car.
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No. 1106027 ID: f1368b
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1106027

>A
Jess lifts her hips a little to press into Henry’s hand, which goes rigid.

“Wait, fuck, I’m sorry, I meant husband. All the men getting an eyeful of my husband.” Henry blurts out.

Jess rolls her eyes at the ocean. “It’s fine, that sentence would have been a nightmare with two ‘husbands’ in it.”

“Partner, then.” Henry puffs. “I’ll stick to saying partner from now on to avoid any confusion.”

“Very modern, dear. Why don’t you cover up your partner’s pussy? Clearly I can’t be trusted to keep myself modest.”

It’s fun having Henry and potential random beach goers outside her range of view so her imagination can run wild with voyeuristic fantasies. In reality, she doubts anyone who’s noticed cares. What are they gonna do, file a complaint about hot perverts to the beach police? Nobody’s got time or energy to give a shit about normal people’s business these days.
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No. 1106028 ID: f1368b
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She feels Henry run his big hand up her thigh to tug at the base of her tail, before dipping between her butt cheeks to push the cheap fabric of the black bikini bottoms to the side. Jess rests her head in her arms and sighs with delight.

The loose grains of sand rubbing into her mucous membranes aren’t exactly pleasant, but they add novel texture and make it hard to resist squirming.

“Don’t move.” Henry tells her sternly. “Do you want everyone to see you with my hand between your legs? You want an audience for your little stunt coming to the beach with your nipples and cunt out?”

“Y-yes.” she whines.

This earns her a third finger as a reward–or maybe a punishment because she has to hide her face to muffle her squeals.

Henry makes her cum within half a minute of concentrated fingerblasting, before wiping his hand on her butt and pulling her modified bikini back into place as best he can.


“I smeared a lot of that paint, it’s pretty obvious there’s a hole now.” Henry comments.

A. Retrieve the sarong and walk along the beach
B. The risk is part of the reward! Play in the water
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No. 1106029 ID: c438a4

That's gonna be a big ol' B for me, play in the water!
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No. 1106034 ID: 5d5b47

A. We have our little victory. Let's walk off to a quieter corner to really celebrate.
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No. 1106050 ID: 1e7dd3

B!
Let's see if he can protect that "modesty" of yours while you're making a dash to the water!
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No. 1106071 ID: 6de63e

>>1105985
Oh interesting jess is interested in pregnancy and lactation do they have a MPreg and Male Lactation for the bara content?
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No. 1106078 ID: 99a466

B

Escalation.
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No. 1106178 ID: d30887

Look into adoption after you pay all your debts.
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No. 1106212 ID: f1368b
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1106212

>B, make a mad dash toward the water
Jess stealthily lifts her weight onto her feet and elbows, then leans back on her haunches and shoots forward as best she can on soft, dry sand.

“Wha–? Jess!”

She doesn’t wait for Henry as she charges into the glittering water, meeting the nearest wave as it breaks against the beach. Only then does she turn around to look at her husband.

“C’mon honey, let’s cool off!”

Henry stumbles to join her, boner barely noticeable against his right leg under his swim shorts. Jess holds her breath and immerses herself in the chilly sea, soaking her fluffy fur and washing away the slime between her legs. The paint is supposed to be water resistant, but she doubts it’ll last in these conditions.
She emerges to smack her hands against the surface of the water, sending a shower of cold drops at the wolf. Henry yelps and hugs her around the middle, covering her body with his bulk. Jess revels in the feeling of a bigger, stronger body holding her in place.

“You, you–” Jess waits for Henry to find a word that isn’t ‘minx’ or ‘vixen’ or otherwise female associated. “You naughty brat, don’t go running off like that.”
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No. 1106213 ID: f1368b
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1106213

Henry lets her go and she bends over to waggle her butt at him. Henry splashes her hole in retaliation and spanks her ass with a light slap before wading into deeper water, up to his hips. They play in the waves for an hour before Jess admits defeat and starts leading Henry back to land.

>People notice her nips check: Success
A passing horse mom stares at Jess’s chest before snapping her gaze back to the beach. Jess’s cheeks heat up and she glances down to see her pink nipples are pretty obvious surrounded by the damp black fabric of the bikini top. It might be time to put on a shirt.

Henry shakes himself with a big spray of water and they towel off back by their picnic basket. The sun feels great after the cold ocean.

>Mpreg? Male lactation?
Absolutely. Most of the fictional content with those fetishes is fujoshi created, although there’s been a rise in transmasc works in recent years. Jess is a refined connoisseur of such things, always on the prowl for rare bara pregnancy.

>Adoption?
Adopting out of foster care could work from a financial standpoint, though Jess doesn’t think that’s what Henry had in mind if they were to start a family.

Once they’re mostly dry, Henry says he’s ready to go home and rest. Jess decides to drive so she’s not tempted to practice her road head.

A. Talk (suggest topics)
B. Stay quiet
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No. 1106214 ID: d30887

B) Remember that therapist who got into an argument with his wife on the road and almost got themselves killed? Wait until you get to bed before you start a pillow fight.
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No. 1106218 ID: c438a4

B. Enjoy a comfortable silence for the drive back.
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No. 1106220 ID: 6c233e

B) today went well. don't spoil it
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No. 1106227 ID: 6d5273

A: turn on the radio and sing along to whatever is playing!
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No. 1106238 ID: 0db8d3

B

Let a hand do the talking instead. A road handy while driving might be a little much, But a good ear scritch might be in order.
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No. 1106239 ID: d30887

>>1106214
>>1106227
No see
that was what started the argument that led to the crash
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No. 1106248 ID: cb76eb

Say this was fun and you hope to do more like this in the future. Otherwise turn up the music.
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No. 1106323 ID: f1368b
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>B, but scratch Henry’s ears and put on the radio
Jess cycles between three stations to dodge as many ads as possible. It’s not long before Henry is slumped against the passenger door, snoozing, and Jess leans to the right and reaches out a hand to pet his saltwater sticky head. What a sweet guy. Her guy. She’ll keep doing her best to take care of him.
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No. 1106325 ID: f1368b
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>28 months after the wedding
Objectively, things are good. He and Jess have been going on fun dates, the fox seems stable, and they have nice things like jobs and food and healthcare.

Henry sighs and taps at his fingers on the keyboard of his laptop. He’s been trying to write and give closure to the handful of vocal fans of his feeder stories, but the words don’t come. His brain feels tired from the thorny mass of hypocrisy that seems to fill most of his spare mental space, prickling under his skull.

It’s frustrating and after half a year, he’s sick of it. He’s not as mad at Jess, true, but more needs to change in his own head for him to be happy again.

None of the options below are a guaranteed success:
A. Go to therapy
B. Start taking SSRIs
C. Initiate advanced rationalization protocol (suggest how Henry CBTs himself)
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No. 1106326 ID: c438a4

A with potential for B. Talk to a therapist first to get some profession takes on if drugs would be good for you.
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No. 1106335 ID: 6c233e

A) always good to have a navigator for your stormy relationship sea

also I don't know how cock and ball torture would help
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No. 1106338 ID: d30887

C) Jess will now get to twist her pussy around you without bringing you to orgasm.
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No. 1106344 ID: 78bd3b

C!

As in Cee a therapist by choosing option A. It's been a long time coming.
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No. 1106365 ID: 53b30a

A. you need therapy son.
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No. 1106374 ID: 223773

A, depending on how it goes it might lead to the other two anyways. Nutting in your partner could help.
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No. 1106388 ID: 0db8d3

Honestly?
B.
Yeah, it might be annoying to find the right formulation, and once you do it'll prolly only work for a couple years cuz your body will continuously get used to it...
But that's a couple extra years you have to figure yourself out *while* being happy.

Plus, at your age the side effects could be amazing.
There are a lot of formulations that make it really hard to cum. This means you could have PORN STAR levels of stamina! Assuming you keep up your cardio, of course.
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No. 1106416 ID: f1368b
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>A, all the cool kids are doing it
If Henry does end up needing drugs, the therapist can recommend a psychiatrist to get him a prescription. He can also go through his general practitioner if need be, but it’s more official this way.

Aw man, but he doesn’t even have childhood trauma to psychoanalyze. Henry’s a normal, ordinary, horny guy. Hopefully he can find someone who doesn’t mind him glossing over his nonexistent sad backstory because Henry’s read more than a couple horror stories about therapists who were completely off base in their suggestions, or just not helpful at all.

The wolf closes his feeble attempt at writing and starts researching nearby therapists. Since he’s always been pretty healthy, he’s on the high deductible plan so he doubts insurance will end up paying for anything.
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No. 1106417 ID: f1368b
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1106417

Describe Henry’s new therapist. They will be randomly selected from all the suggested options and if Henry doesn’t like them after a few sessions, another randomly selected therapist can take their place.
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No. 1106420 ID: 6d5273

(edited)

Most therapy animals are dogs, would make sense if this one was a dog too.

Otherwise, maybe an aardvark

name is Fredrick.

besides the species, Fredrick is a soft spoken old man, a good listener, and is the type of therapist who will not judge or demand their patients to do things, but instead help lead their patient to the source of their issues by asking thought provoking questions about themselves.

His flaws he's a bit behind on what the younger generations are into, and he won't upright give his patients the answers to their problem as he would rather help his clients figure it out themselves
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No. 1106424 ID: 6c233e

A high-strung little quail woman named Levy. She almost seems like she needs therapy herself, but all the reviews said she was really good.
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No. 1106427 ID: 2a9446

>>1106417
It's a Capybara. Capybara are chill with everyone. Should probably also be a dude, female therapists are pretty bad at relating to men.
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No. 1106430 ID: 710f83

>>1106424
Ironic. She could save others with therapy, but not herself.
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No. 1106431 ID: d30887

Dr. Machine
Species: Robot Tiny Mouse in a large body
Seems profoundly absurd and only has 4-star serious reviews at best. However, most of the reviews are profound, detailed, and show a healthy balance between positivity and ethics. This machine is good at what they do... even if what they do can't be described easily or sanely.
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No. 1106432 ID: 0db8d3

She's a super cute and curvy hippopotamus. Obscenely hot in Henry's opinion, whether or not hippos are his normal cup of tea.

She's entirely non-judgmental and known for being very sex-positive. She's legitimately a good therapist.

But she's also young, early twenties. Always the over-achiever she graduated high school early and went straight into college. She got her degree last year (A year faster than most, at that). As such, despite being a natural at her job, she can often miss the line between being friendly and unprofessional. She can sometimes be a bit too hands on, even flirty without realizing it. Given the right situation she might get caught up in events and end up making some... Serious decisions without fully thinking them through.
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No. 1106441 ID: 6b8094

A German shepherd with a thick accent and thicker glasses.
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No. 1106445 ID: 99a466

Henry lands on an older therapist, a bespectacled rat with a very blank, if not grave, manner, who generally tries a Rogerian approach.
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No. 1106447 ID: 930a7b

>>1106432
Ohhh drama potential but also someone who is hyper compitent wonder if we will open up about our self doubt and lack of confidence
Support +
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No. 1106458 ID: 2965d0

>>1106441
This. Her name is Dr. Linda Hoffman. She is entirely professional at her work, and actually takes time to hear her patients out. Not only has she done therapy but is also a fully licensed psychiatrist.
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No. 1106530 ID: c438a4

I had an idea that I fully forgot to post, so I'mma write it up now:

Name: Dr. Madeline "Maddy" Richards
Species: Horse
Appearance: Tall, but very traditionally pretty with long luscious hair and an hourglass figure.

I think it'd be neat if Henry's therapist was a traditionally feminine girl who might actually be Henry's type. She shows up to sessions in casual but pretty dresses rather than something more formal, reflecting her methodology of making therapy seem approachable. Her light approach can leave some sessions a bit light on deep discussions, as she tries to let Henry feel in-control, even when that means steering the ship away from deeper topics before he's ready.

The reason Henry picked her specifically, is because she's a trans-woman. He figured she might understand Jess' perspective better, and maybe she could help him bridge the gap between his feelings and hers.
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No. 1106543 ID: f1368b
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>Random selection from 8 choices + 2 supporting votes: Dr. Machine the Telehealth Mouse
Virtual therapy puts a bad taste in Henry’s mouth, even though he knows it’s more common than ever between rising costs for in-person chats and the convenience of never leaving your home. Well, Dr. Machine is the first person he’s found who has availability that fits Henry’s schedule, so he might as well give it a try.

Henry paws weakly for his cellphone to make the call to schedule an appointment. Maybe he’ll end up liking spilling all of his woes to a lit-up square after he gives it a chance. Henry’s lucky he doesn’t have to look at a computer all day for his job so a little more screen time won’t hurt.
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No. 1106544 ID: f1368b
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>A few days later…
Jess seems happy when Henry tells the fox that his first appointment is later this morning. Woo. Making Jess happy is good, right? He feels like he’s slowly drowning in the demands of daily interactions. Go to work, be professional, help the sick and dying, come home, exchange pleasantries with his partner–it’s all so heavy now.

>Dr. Machine gender roll: Male
When Henry opens the video chat link, he sees a short, fluffy mouse with large pink ears. Dr. Machine lacks the bitter world-weariness of Mahan, but otherwise kind of reminds Henry of the pika.

“Hello there Henry! It’s nice to meet you, I see you marked depression as the reason we’re calling today, tell me what’s been on your mind.”

Henry scratches his cheek self-consciously. The reviews had said this guy was a bit eccentric, and he’s not sure how he should phrase his marriage troubles to get the most bang for his buck.
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No. 1106549 ID: 99a466

You've had patients that beat around the bush before, right? Annoying. Don't be one. He's the professional, it's his job to figure out the best approach. Just give it to him straight: your marriage seems good on paper, but it isn't what you want, and you want to stop feeling like you're going through the motions and get back to a place where you feel happy.
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No. 1106553 ID: 6c233e

He's a stranger, might as well just tell it like you see it. An outside perspective will help
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No. 1106561 ID: 2a9446

>>1106544
Well your wife entirely lied about the very basis of who she said she was. Pretty much entirely just changed all your life plans. Went back on her word after you sacrificed your finger as a show of thanks.

Not good?
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No. 1106569 ID: d30887

Explain that you already feel toxic while your wife feels manipulative.
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No. 1106571 ID: 123033

You want to work up to honesty but like, lay the groundwork first, make it easier on him. Start with that sentiment about how nothing feels easy any more. That there's nowhere you feel like you can relax, or not have to watch yourself, it's all heavy, and that's what you want to fix. That'll be familiar to him, and it lays out the end goal you want to reach.

As for describing the marriage situation... well, basically, it was good for a long time, it's good on paper, but your partner has recently been honest about something that changes a lot and you feel deceived. But you also feel like maybe the dishonesty was because of pressure you put on without really realizing it, the dishonesty was an attempt to please you. Now it's all difficult and you want to make it work, you invested a lot into the marriage and you do still like your partner a lot, but it's all painful and difficult.

Don't be afraid to ask him like... meta questions about answering his questions? What he wants to know or where you should start or how deep into complications or details. You're paying him to provide guidance, so get your money's worth.
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No. 1106587 ID: 891ae1

>>1106571
This
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No. 1106662 ID: f1368b
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>Be direct
“My partner is a trans man who I thought was a woman and it was great until a while ago when I found out he lied about his gender identity so that I’d marry him. We get along well otherwise, I gave up a finger on our honeymoon because he likes that kind of thing, and I don’t think I want a divorce–”

“Sorry to interrupt, but could you repeat what you said about your finger?” Dr. Machine says brightly.

“Oh, I mean you can see it here. My friends say I was stupid, I cut it off as a romantic gesture.” Henry holds his left hand up to the camera. It feels weird being honest about his finger with a stranger.

“Hm, yes yes, you do know that I’m supposed to report any harm or threats of harm to yourself or others?” At Henry’s expression, the mouse chuckles and waves his hand. “Oh don’t worry, I’ll make an exception. Do you regularly engage in masochism?”

“Yeah, sometimes. We’re both pretty kinky.”

“Go on with what you were saying.”

Henry struggles to find his train of thought again. “I guess I’ve been feeling like a bad person? Because Jess was pretending to be a woman because of me and he’s still pretending so we stay together, so I’ve been doubting all of our interactions. He can be kind of manipulative, though it’s usually for what he thinks is our benefit, that’s just kind of how he is. The other thing is I thought we were going to start a family but that’s not going to happen. Got my hopes up for nothing.”
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No. 1106663 ID: f1368b
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“So you don’t have a history or family history of depression?” Dr. Machine confirms.

“Yeah, this is a first. I get anxious sometimes but it’s manageable. That’s a good thing, right? What kind of strategy are you thinking of for me?”

Dr. Machine sits up straighter in his chair and waves his tiny paws excitedly. “I think we can try some shadow work, Henry. It’s based on the teachings of Carl Jung, we identify what feelings you may be suppressing in your unconscious and work to unify the self. Tell me something you dislike seeing in others, or describe a facet of yourself you think is shameful.”

A. Political conservatism
B. The desire to harm Jess
C. Other (suggest from observation of Henry’s behavior)
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No. 1106667 ID: f0ab0d

>>1106663
How about a slowly broiling anger at how this "identity change" took a sledgehammer to your entire lifeplans and how the only reason you haven't hit a boiling point is by having bouts of hate sex?

That sounds a bit unhealthy to me.
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No. 1106671 ID: d30887

A) You were raised to think that conservatism is... okay?
More like you were raised to believe that it had a minimum limit to how much damage it could do, compared to flagrant liberalism.
... That might be wrong, but you don't know how to disprove what your community taught you.
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No. 1106673 ID: 0db8d3

How about the fact that even though Jess is clearly putting in the work for things to work out, ever since his confession you've had a lot of difficulty talking and interacting with him. Sure there's small talk but the connection isn't there. You snap at or get paranoid towards Jess randomly when yall try. You don't know who he is anymore. It's like living with a stranger who loves you. Almost everything you do with him feels wrong, almost like you're taking advantage or abusing him but there's no way of knowing for sure. Feelings that are doubly frustrating because you know this whole thing is FUCKED and you should be pissed but you can't even seem to do that right.
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No. 1106690 ID: 89fddc

>>1106673
>>1106667
These.
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No. 1106705 ID: 6c233e

Jess embracing his gender identity is what's right for him, so you feel you should be supportive, but you're still angry. If you can't accept this does that make you as bad as Mahan?
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No. 1106726 ID: 11e2c3

>>1106663
I also lost a friend due to my partner getting them into a threesome and she never wants to see me again i felt weak i could not even touch the door knob to be there for her i drove home to her beacuse i was so worried.
It sometimes feels like Jess ignores my feelings thinking its done instead talking about how they want to eat the placenta when we have the baby.
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No. 1106730 ID: 11e2c3

>>1106726
Just a feeling of cowardice never being able to help even if it only would cause minor discomfort, never fully honest or driven beyond the needs of others, its what i do at my job but its also my life i am a people pleaser but i cant comfort or comfront.
I cant even be angry, i am only angry if allowed to be angry if thats what jess wants for sex.
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No. 1106736 ID: d30887

Also you're worried about Becca, your friend (and polygamous third-wheel, who you and Jess enjoye your open marriage with). You want to reach out, but she's not responsive.
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No. 1106778 ID: f1368b
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>C, anger
“I’ve been angry about all this, but the emotion isn’t helping or going away, it doesn’t feel like I’m being angry right, if that makes sense, because I know I’m supposed to process stuff and move on. I shouldn’t be angry at Jess because it’s good for him that he’s being honest and embracing his identity. I don’t hate trans people or anything, it’s just sometimes I wish I wasn’t married to one.” Henry nibbles on the tip of his finger between sentences as he rambles. “I know it’s important to have an outlet and we’ve been having aggro sex whenever I feel like it, which is fun, I guess. Jess reallys enjoys it when I throw him around.”

Dr. Machine nods. “Men are socialized from childhood not to express anger, which makes it a common source of distress when going through a frustrating or threatening situation.”

“Oh, one more thing, the marriage stuff started a bit before I found out one of my close friends Jess and I were hooking up with doesn’t want to talk to me anymore. She hasn’t reached out since then and it really hurts.” Henry sighs and puts his head in his hands. “I know she’s still alive and stuff but I feel like a douche for…for taking advantage of her emotionally.”

“ Hmmm…” The mouse strokes his chin. “Have you tried going into the woods and hitting trees with a big stick?”

“Huh?”

“And raging and screaming and crying? A proper violent outburst without the worry that anyone is judging you for it would do wonders, I think. Take a friend, if you’d like. That’s your first assignment.”
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No. 1106779 ID: f1368b
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“Alright.” Camping sounds like a lot of work when Henry’s so tired all the time, but he already has the basic gear and he could invite Mahan or Victor.

“Second, I’d like you to write down your most deranged, psychotic thoughts on paper. What you’d like to do to Jess, your friends, your boss, society, the world, any and all of it. When you’re done you can keep it or tear it to pieces. The point of the exercise is to acknowledge your shadow desires instead of feeling shame for having them, which stifles your ability to embrace your anger.”

That makes sense, even if it kind of sounds like Dr. Machine wants him to become a Sith Lord. They finish the 45 minute session with more therapy speak before the mouse cheerfully waves goodbye and leaves the call.

Ever the good boy, Henry fidgets for a few moments before grabbing a notepad off the desk to start his homework.

Suggest some of Henry’s socially unacceptable urges and thoughts. These could be things Henry would probably never do because of the repercussions or physical restrictions, but occasionally fantasizes about.
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No. 1106780 ID: c2976f

>>1106779
Forcing his "husband" to drop the identity and accept her place as a woman and wife? Physically if necessary?
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No. 1106783 ID: c438a4

You can definitely think of a couple desires you know better than to act on...

You want to make Becca to talk to you, even though she doesn't want to. You want to force her to discuss her feelings and hear you out.

You want to slam a baby in Jess and make a woman out of him, whether he wants it or not.
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No. 1106785 ID: a4a329

You know what? I'm not opposed to hitting up a rage room, or maybe actually going out into the woods with a big fuck off axe or stick, some place where we can scream, rage, turn our anger towards something just as an outlet and really just go fucking berserk. Fuck it. Why not?Keeping this pent up is not good for us and hey you know, if we can get a video tape of it, I bet it would do something to Jess.
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No. 1106786 ID: 5e7485

>>1106779
Here's a fantasy to go with all of this, how about mating pressing Jess while keeping your teeth around their throat. Embracing the wolf side of you.
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No. 1106787 ID: d30887

Write up a surreal short story that blames the supernatural - Heaven, in particular - for almost everything wrong with society, and how your supervillain protagonist wages war against them. Emphasize that the worst thing you could do to Jess is force the bill for your violent terrorism upon her.
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No. 1106810 ID: 23183b

>>1106779
Waiting until Jess is out of the house, throwing all your shit in the car, and just booking it over the horizon.
No messages, no warning, not even a forwarding address. You're there one minute and gone the next.
Cutting all contact with your old life and calling it a wash.
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No. 1106886 ID: 11e2c3

>>1106810
Do that but for a weekend or call in a vacation week from work and do this for awhile
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No. 1106887 ID: fe12b4

>>1106779
dig up and desecrate the rotting corpse of Ronald "McDonald" Reagan before deep frying it and force feeding the result to rupert murdoch
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No. 1106948 ID: f1368b
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>Force Jess to be a traditional woman and wife and have his children
If only there was some way for Jess to still be Jess but also a submissive, chubby, tradwife. It’s not in the fox’s nature, and sabotaging his birth control and raping him won’t change that. Okay, but for the purpose of this exercise, just because it’s not possible doesn’t mean Henry can’t want it. There’s probably some dumb, deeper psychological reason for all this, which is manifesting as these sordid desires blah blah blah.

>Ditch Jess and start a new life
Alright, so Henry wants Jess to be dependent and needy, hentai mindbreak style, and he also wants to run away from him and never look back. A contradiction on the surface, but also Henry feels that both desires are very real. He can’t completely run away from his problems, but some space would be good. Maybe he can throw an impromptu road trip into his assigned camping adventure.
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No. 1106949 ID: f1368b
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>Make Becca to talk to him
If he could make Becca listen, Henry’s sure he’d be able to explain that he didn’t try to take advantage of her and that this was all a big misunderstanding about her emotional needs. Right now he still feels guilty that she hates him. He didn’t mean to hurt her, not at all, he really cares about Becca!

>Scapegoat old dead people and rich alive people
Agh, politics. He can’t even be mad about Jess without feeling like he’s betraying multiple central tenets of modern leftism! If he had more time to read the news or had lingering religious trauma maybe he’d be able to blame the wealthy and powerful for this somehow. Right now he’s pretty sure his depression is mostly a him problem.

Henry taps his pen against the notepad. Dr. Machine is on to something, writing things down did distill some understanding in the moonshine operation of his skull. Mostly that he wants Jess to need him, except the fox doesn’t and never will. Which is healthy and good, but really scary, because it means everything could break at any second.

Going berserk in the woods is sounding more and more appealing, maybe Henry can take the car and go tonight.
A. Ask Mahan to come
B. Ask Victor to come
C. Go alone
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No. 1106958 ID: d30887

C) But make sure everyone knows where you are so you aren't murdered by a serial killer without them getting found out.
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No. 1106961 ID: cb76eb

B
He's levelheaded enough to let you vent out and keep you safe from yourself, mostly.
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No. 1106962 ID: 6c233e

B) a writer should have some ideas on how to draw out your emotions
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No. 1106973 ID: 19ea25

A: While he would have issues discussing anything beyond stoic male resolve when it comes to emotional problems. Mehan may be the exact sort of person to help you get one hell of a proper primal screamfest going while chopping down trees and destroying a bit of nature.
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No. 1106985 ID: 047965

Go alone if you can, bring Vic if you have to.
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No. 1106986 ID: c438a4

C. This is something you should really do by yourself. Let Jess know where you're going though, just in case something contrived happens and you wind up stuck there.
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No. 1107106 ID: f1368b
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>C, peaceful solitude
Henry looks up a campsite in the mountains an hour or two away, a flicker of excitement giving him more energy than usual. Oh boy, he can light a fire, grill sausages, make s’mores under the stars, then sleep in his ultralight bag in a cozy tent. As a precaution, he texts Victor where he’s planning to go in case he gets serial killed or runs the car off a bridge or something.

He sneaks downstairs and starts rifling through the closet where he thinks he put his old gear. Jess, of course, notices.

“Whatcha doin’?”

“Going out tonight. Staying at a campsite and making dinner.” Henry grumbles.

“Oh fun, with the boys?”

“No, just me.”

Jess’s tail flicks against the couch cushions and he turns his gaze back to his graphic novel. “Well, even if you’re tempted, try not to kill yourself.”

Henry bristles, heat blooming in his face. Now is not the time for a suicide joke. “That’s not fucking funny, Jess.”

“It wasn’t? My bad. Have fun, honey.”
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No. 1107107 ID: f1368b
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Henry piles his dusty supplies in the trunk and makes a stop at the nearest convenience store to get snacks and a lighter. There’s a hardware store next door and he grabs a cheap hatchet before starting the journey to the mountains.

It’s summer, so the campsite is swarming with families and loud, annoying kids, but Henry still finds a flat, dry spot with a fire pit and scuffed concrete picnic table to set up his little tent and bag. He can’t be there to watch his stuff if he goes into the woods to wreck shit, surely nothing will get stolen when there’s so many people around?

What should he do this evening to blow off steam? It’ll be light out for several more hours.
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No. 1107113 ID: c438a4

Do some writing. Doesn't have to be for your current project, just take notes of what is in your heart.
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No. 1107114 ID: d30887

Tear apart a tree with your bare claws.

Calm down after you fail to chop it down.
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No. 1107150 ID: 6c233e

Find one of those dead-on-its-feet half rotted trees and knock it over. Then whack it with a branch. Maybe bite it.
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No. 1107157 ID: 0db8d3

After the sun goes down put on a mask (Or just cover face with mud or a bag you can see through in a pinch), grab your hatchet, and terrorize local teenagers.

All the best fun only happens when there's a chance of getting arrested.
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No. 1107183 ID: 1c5e26

>>1107107
Gaze upon eyecandy.
Perhaps try drawing
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No. 1107184 ID: 99a466

Go for a hike. It's nice to be out in the woods, and the trails will probably be less crowded than the campgrounds. It might also be a good way to scout out potential freak-out sites.

But geez, scream therapy? We'll see how this works, but I'm pretty sure this mostly results in sore throats and anger management problems. If it works, that's great, but I get a feeling we might want to start shopping for a new therapist.
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No. 1107247 ID: f1368b
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>Find a dry, dead tree to tear apart
A marvelous plan, he can take a short hike on the nearby trail to scout eligible victims. Hatchet in hand, Henry stalks the woods, marveling at the lush greenery and flicking his ears to clear hungry mosquitos. Whenever someone walks by he returns to normal, non-serial killer mannerisms to avoid frightening any children, teens, or adults.

There’s plenty of still standing barren white pine along the trail, and he finds a trim leaning trunk to descend on with his claws and teeth and blade and hack to pieces. Jess would be able to explain in detail how chopping wood differs from butchering flesh to dispose of a corpse–Henry’s glad the fox isn’t here to analyze his form.

He didn’t get too far from camp since that would make hauling wood back a pain, and he loads up on more than enough fuel to cook dinner, puffing with exertion.
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No. 1107248 ID: f1368b
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>Theft avoidance check (80%): Success
Henry finds his possessions and tent exactly where he left them when he returns with his kill, which he dumps in armfuls by the fire pit before slicing up some sticks into perfect feathery fire starters. Be prepared! Learn to tie knots that’ll be useful in the future for securing lovers! Boy Scouts of America let’s gooooooooo!

Once he has a strong flame, Henry adds a few of the larger split logs and preps his food. He assembles skewers laden with refrigerated pastry dough and those wonderful cheap hotdogs, and snacks on chips patiently while he waits for the fire to burn down to manageable roasting levels.

>Arts and crafts
Pleasantly stuffed with junk, Henry turns his attention to the little notebook he brought along for the journey. He’s never been much of an artist, but he doodles misshapen fertility icons as the sun sets.

>Fresh air, tree murder, and sketching mood improvement check (70%): Failure
Henry crumples the page of his shitty scribbles and spikes it in the fire. This is stupid. He feels stupid, seeing all these happy families while he’s alone and pathetic. Dr. Machine’s advice didn’t work, what kind of hackneyed idea is scream therapy anyway?

He has trouble sleeping on the hard packed dirt, light synthetic bag not doing him any favors. It takes packing everything up the next morning to warm his toes and fingers, after which Henry sluggishly drives back to civilization.

A. Find a new therapist
B. Keep trying this dumb shadow stuff
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No. 1107249 ID: c438a4

B. Give it at least one more try before calling it a dud.
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No. 1107270 ID: 1114e3

B. Really I think the issue is that your dark urges aren't the core of the issue, just a reaction to it. Being able to take care of yourself at a camp and draw and stuff helped a little but not really.

I think the real problem here is that you're feeling like Jess doesn't need you. Like... I think subconsciously you had a little bit of sexism in the back of your head that told you that a woman needed a man to take care of her, and that made things feel secure for you. Now Jess is a man and that part of you feels like a man is intrinsically more independent and self-reliant. Jess doesn't have to put up with you, doesn't need you, so you feel unsafe and like you can't expose your thoughts or feelings to him, in case it gives him reason to leave you - because now you feel like his tolerance is lower. So you just... keep away. But you're still afraid, and the source of the fear is Jess, making you feel hurt and angry. That makes you want space, also makes you get violent impulses. At the same time you fantasize things that would make Jess less able to leave - pregnancy, weight, etc. Part of it is maybe you feeling like you can't leave, because of all the investments you've made to tie yourself to Jess. Which on some level maybe makes you feel like now you're 'the woman' in this?

I slightly wonder if maybe that feeling of secure dependence vs. insecure independence is a part of why you're straight beyond physical bits preferences, but. That's a bit of a stretch maybe. Talk to the therapist about it.
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No. 1107271 ID: 6c233e

B) What will be really telling is how he reacts when you say his advice didn't help. Will he adjust, or will he imply you are at fault. This will determine weather you should drop him
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No. 1107276 ID: 0db8d3

A. Shadow work isn't much different from normal therapy. It's more of a framing device that makes therapy more accessible. If you're having trouble taking it seriously, there's no harm in looking elsewhere.

At least mauling a tree to death was kinda fun.
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No. 1107279 ID: cb76eb

B) try anything twice
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No. 1107333 ID: 397c96

>>1107248
B) giving up at the first step gets you nowhere
>>1107270
Could it even be that just Jess suggested Divorce at all makes you feel less secure
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No. 1107334 ID: 397c96

>>1107333
Also interesting how you switch from the serial killer mannerisms when anyone could possibly see its a bit of pattern you change how you act for others
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No. 1107335 ID: 44ad19

>>1107270
Stretch? That's a whole damn plastic man. Jess literally ate his finger on the ground that "We're BOTH giving up something" then suddenly decided "Nevermind lol"

How self loathing are you to think this is HIS fault?
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No. 1107370 ID: 2cb465

>>1107335
I agree, putting blame on Henry for subconscious sexism feels wrong, it frames it as all his fault. I think he's definitely got some problems feeling like he isn't necessary and of course, straightness problems aside, most people want to be wanted by someone. That's a pretty normal thing to feel. Here's a good frame of mind for this:

You don't want someone to "need" you, what you want is someone who doesn't need you in the slightest, but they choose to be with you because they love you.

I am also however in favor of B. Keep going with it for now, maybe take a walk away from the campsite where we see other people being happy.
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No. 1107383 ID: f1368b
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>B, give it another shot
Henry zones out as he drives, head aching from the lack of sleep and his resolute attempts to make sense of his mind. He wants to feel better fast, but he probably needs to be patient with this shadow therapy framing thing if he wants it to work. It’ll still be satisfying to give Dr. Machine a hard time about the failed camping suggestion at their next session.

>Extra strength car introspection
Nothing like sleep deprived rumination to really get the self-hatred pumping. Okay, what is it this time? He knows his urges to baby trap Jess are gross and morally wrong, which apparently doesn’t mean he’s gross and wrong according to Jung, and instead reflect his desire to be needed, which in turn is a hedge against the most hated beast, uncertainty about the potential pain of divorce. He’s pretty sure at this point that Jess doesn’t want a divorce, so he’s torturing himself to torture himself, hooray!

Look at him being the dysfunctional, dependent one in the relationship. A real shining beacon of modern masculinity. Again, he can’t really muster what he considers justified rage at Jess since the fox has been sooooo nice and normal even though part of Henry feels like he should. He can’t even blame Dr. Machine’s “male socialization to not be angry claim”, he just doesn’t have the will.

The impossible solution of not caring about any of this is so obvious it hurts. C’mon, get over it already, you’re seriously doing the same sad sack routine again? Booooring!
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No. 1107384 ID: f1368b
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Henry finds himself parked in the driveway of his home. At least he can sleep in a soft, warm bed tonight. He shoulders his bags and walks into the unlocked townhouse.

To his surprise, Jess shoots up from where he was wiping the tile in the kitchen and runs to meet him with a big smile. “I missed you! How was camping?”

“Kind of rough, honestly. I had fun getting firewood but I think I’m getting too old to sleep on the ground. Back hurts.”

Jess noses around his torso and pits, collecting the remnants of dry sweat and wood smoke. “Mmm, you smell musky.”

“Yeah, I need a shower and probably a nap.” Henry sighs and moves to the closet to put away his gear.

“I could…join you in the shower?” Jess offers. He bites his lips and gives Henry a hopeful look.

A. Yeah (suggest how to sex)
B. Nah, too tired
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No. 1107387 ID: 6d5273

B. Give head pats, say another day, been a looooong day, need sleep. Too sore right now.

if A chosen, probably just no sex, but would appreciate the company. maybe a massage instead.
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No. 1107390 ID: c438a4

A/B. Ask him to join you, but not for sex. You just want him to wash your back for you, and then lay with you in bed for a while. Maybe a massage if he's willing.
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No. 1107397 ID: cb76eb

A. Let your partner breathe you in for a minute before it gets washed away. Let Jess lead. You're tired, maybe suggest Jess ride as you lay down in the tub.
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No. 1107418 ID: 13529c

>>1107390
We are feeling bad so lets just do this, perhaps the cruz of our issue is that Jess is "Acting" they dont communicate they just go along either controlling or controlled out of some competative spirit until they just break and do the polar opposite perhaps thats what has decided jess entire life path?
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No. 1107427 ID: 99a466

A/b

It'll be good to bend Jess over under the water and go in from behind. But this is also an intimate moment that doesn't and shouldn't just be about erotic play.

This is tricky, because you're trying to work through trust issues with her. It's understandable you might suspect she might be acting in a bid to deliberately manipulate you, but we don't have to give into these suspicions entirely. Act in good faith, and assume she's doing the same. While you're walking up and getting ready and washing up, talk to her about what you did on your trip and what she did while you were away. See if your missing her comes up in any capacity, and get a feel for what's been on her mind.
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No. 1107446 ID: f1368b
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>A, but no sex
“I’m too tired to fuck, but you can come help me wash my back.” Henry says bluntly. He finishes putting away the tent and his bag, stashes his leftover snacks in the kitchen, and takes Jess’s offered hand before they head up the stairs to the big bathroom with a tub. Jess gently rubs his lower back and Henry can’t help tensing a little. It’s a stupid reaction, Jess isn’t acting in bad faith. Henry rolls his sore shoulders and tries to relax.

He peels off his smelly clothes and lets Jess get a good sniff of his bare chest before he moves into the shower. The fox strips and squeezes in to join him, squawking at the first spray of cold water and clinging to Henry’s front, hot fur and firm flesh.

If it’s a manipulation tactic, it’s working. Henry hugs his partner and dips his head into the warming stream to soak his fur. Sharing a shower is not an efficient way to get clean since it takes multiple minutes to make sure they’re both totally saturated, which puts another mark on the perpetual environmental guilt pile. Henry takes a seat in the tub and Jess puts a big glob of mild shampoo on his head and starts massaging it into a lather.
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No. 1107447 ID: f1368b
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“The campsite was pretty busy. Lots of families and kids.” Henry mutters, barely audible above the water. “It kind of made me feel lonely, I dunno. Maybe I should have gone with someone.”

“Do you want to go again? I could come if Mahan or Victor can’t make it. It feels weird not to have you here on the weekend, I had to keep finding chores to do to stay busy.”

“Not anytime soon and probably not overnight, but sure.”

Jess’s grip has gotten a lot stronger since the last time Henry got a massage. It’s nice, especially as Jess adds more shampoo to his back and rubs the muscles on either side of his sensitive spine. He feels his eyes close and a soft haze of warmth and comfort quiets his overactive brain.

Eventually he has to resurface, rinse off, and towel himself as dry as possible. Henry doesn’t bother putting on clean clothes, instead flopping onto the bed for his nap. His fur is going to be a mess when he wakes up.

Jess lies down next to him, squirming closer until they’re side by side.
A. Big spoon for control
B. Little spoon for comfort

Next update May 9th.
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No. 1107454 ID: 99a466

B, if it will really be comfortable. If it'll get you thinking about dark things, then maybe stick with A.
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No. 1107458 ID: 6c233e

B) Take comfort where you can
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No. 1107459 ID: c438a4

B!
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No. 1107461 ID: 2ec6c1

>>1107447
Isn't A the more logical option here for his situation?
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No. 1107493 ID: 0db8d3

>>1107461
Depends on how you think about it.

Control is good because Henry feels very out of control.

Comfort is good because he's literally tormenting himself constantly.

In my opinion, he wants the comfort but needs the control, so I think he would probably choose big spoon even though little spoon would be tempting.

From a meta perspective, having him go little spoon would put him more in line with the plans we gave to Jess to help get him through this. Jess' current plans are entirely innocent, but there's potential for this to warp them into Jess deliberately fostering codependency in him later on if Henry gets too deep, which might be an interesting route or situation to explore.
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No. 1107551 ID: cb76eb

A
Don't fight the hard on of it happens.
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No. 1107577 ID: f2320a

>>1107447
A) also its sort of the other is laying with our back not wanting to look towards them
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No. 1107801 ID: f1368b
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1107801

>A, stay in control
Henry self-consciously moves into standard big spoon position and Jess flips around so that the fox’s big ears are tucked on either side of his chin. He doesn’t want to just be a sponge for Jess’s good will, and this meager display of his former glory helps put his mind at ease enough to relax and rest.
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>29 months after the wedding
For the record, Jess has never had food poisoning problems before despite the numerous dubious things she’s put in her holes, but eating one of Henry’s old camping hotdogs that had overnighted in his tent and then been forgotten in the fridge for a couple weeks wasn’t her best decision. Her sensitive nose even picked up some sourness, but instead of tossing the pack like a smart person, she gnawed on a tube of processed meat anyway in a fit of impulsive curiosity.

She retches into the toilet, caught between misery and fascination with her efficient digestive system, which wastes no time in making her vomit everything in her stomach and small intestine. Her gut rumbles. Probably some diarrhea in her future to clear out the other end.

A. Suffer alone
B. Ask Henry for support (he’s currently at work)
C. Ask Sophie or Terrence for support (they’re also probably at work)
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No. 1107804 ID: 2aa8e1

B
Moral support and maybe some after work Tums, Pepto-Bismol or Pedialyte could help.
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No. 1107805 ID: 047965

>>1107802
B. See if he can pick up some pepto bismol and something like a sprite or Ginger ale to help settle your stomach after work
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No. 1107816 ID: d30887

A) Ask yourself if you want children, if this times thirty would be the first installment of the price you have to pay.
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No. 1107827 ID: 7354fe

How about C? We haven't checked in with friends in a bit.
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No. 1107830 ID: 0db8d3

A.
This be the perfect time to get some drugs.
Or at least some weed.
Weed would fix you up pretty good, actually.
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No. 1107881 ID: f1368b
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>Tiebreaker check: B
Jess could conceivably survive on water and ibuprofen until Henry gets home, but she doesn’t particularly feel like toughing it out. She’s always dealing with things on her own, she wants her husband’s attention and help!

She slithers down the side of the toilet until she’s resting on the cool tile, throat stinging. Not a good angle for texting, but she manages to send a somewhat coherent plea to Henry asking for him to come home bearing electrolyte drinks and Pepto-Bismol.

>Henry mood check: Failure
Hubby <3: I’m sorry you feel bad but I’m really busy today, I don’t know if I can take time off.
Hubby <3: There’s not much I can do that you can’t do yourself, mix some sugar and salt in warm water for a drink.
Jess: I’m dyinnnnnnng :(((
Hubby <3: You’re not dying, it sucks but I can’t go home right now.
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No. 1107882 ID: f1368b
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Nooooooooooooo…such harsh rejection in her time of need! Jess lets her phone slip out of her hands to clack against the floor. She had considered not texting Henry to avoid bothering him, but texting him and being rebuffed is even worse!

The roiling of her stomach must be messing with her normally cool brain because she’s pretty miffed. If Henry really wanted to come, she’s sure he would come. He must be sick of her shit.

Jess sniffles in self-pity and gets to her feet to go make some salty sugar water like Henry said to do. She alternates between the bathroom and bed in a stupor, wracked with bloat and nausea. It’s all she can do to not accidentally shit herself.

Finally, evening comes and she hears the front door open.
A. Be pathetic in an attempt to stir sympathy
B. Be mad that Henry didn’t come to her aid
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No. 1107885 ID: 27b52b

Oh you big baby, no need to get mad. If you really gotta be one of the two, put on those puppy dog eyes.

A
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No. 1107886 ID: 6c233e

A) you did this to yourself, so go for pity
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No. 1107891 ID: 7354fe

B. Henry has mentioned a few times that it bothers him how unbothered Jess seems about the crisis he forced them into, so I think it might actually make Henry feel a bit better to see Jess upset.

Don't get shouty angry or anything, just be pouty and disappointed with him.
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No. 1107892 ID: 047965

>>1107882
A. And hey how about we don’t try to just go for sympathy but because we actually need some assistance?
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No. 1107894 ID: 0db8d3

A. Sociopath Powers activate!
Annoying that you have to use them when really hubby dearest should be taking care of you right now by default, but you can figure a way to be petty toward him later.
Unless he comes bearing thoughtful gifts.
If he brought gifts all will be forgiven.
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No. 1107898 ID: cb76eb

A
He can spend an hour at least, making sure you're not going to shit the bed.
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No. 1107932 ID: d30887

C) Claim you're pregnant
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No. 1107934 ID: 0db8d3

>>1107932

Whatever we end up doing, we should also do this.
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No. 1107945 ID: 99a466

A
You're still hurting, and you need the support. I don't think you'll have to stretch much to appear pathetic.

Maybe don't outright claim to be pregnant, but float the idea that it might be morning sickness. Might be worth doing a pregnancy test just to be sure.
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No. 1107963 ID: f1368b
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>A, and claim to be pregnant
“Hennnnnryyyyyyy!” she wails. “Did you get some medicine? I’m not gonna make it much longer, I’ve lost all of my insides.”

Henry clomps up the stairs and comes into the bedroom to consider her prone form. His nose wrinkles at the stench of the well-used toilet. “You said you ate an old hotdog?”

“Maybe…or maybe I’m pregnant and suffering from morning sickness.”

Jess giggles at the look on Henry’s face, which hurts her stomach and drains her tiny reserves of energy. “Don’t worry babe! At this point I’ve shit the fetus out for sure, I’m totally empty.”

“Jess, can you not JOKE ABOUT THAT?” Henry roars.

He throws a box of Imodium on the bedside table so hard that it bounces off to land somewhere on the floor and storms back down the stairs Jess is surprised to hear the front door slam as the wolf abandons the townhouse entirely. He must be really mad to leave after just getting back from a long shift at work.
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No. 1107964 ID: f1368b
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Jess rolls unsteadily to her feet and retrieves the medicine. She’s mostly empty at this point so she might as well take one to spare her intestinal lining. While she’s upright, she goes to refill her water, taking the stairs one slow step at a time down and one heroic heave at a time on the way up.

A pregnancy joke might have been in bad taste when Henry’s sore about the lack of future heirs, but she played it off with a poop abortion joke right after! That’s peak comedy!

Her stomach gurgles after she takes a long drink. After a quick bowel check on the smelly toilet, she crawls back into bed.

A. Text Henry and apologize
B. Text Sophie and complain
C. Text Terrence and ask for advice
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No. 1107965 ID: 6d5273

C. It’s one thing to apologize, but if Jess doesn’t know what to apologize about, it wouldn’t be genuine. Might need advice to know what she did wrong first
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No. 1107966 ID: cb76eb

A
Why the fuck did you do that
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No. 1107969 ID: 88dbc0

>>1107966
Oh shit, title drop
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No. 1107974 ID: 6c233e

C) your inability to understand people having strong feelings about things is really hurting this relationship.
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No. 1107976 ID: 9038df

Do you even consider what you said was beyond fucked up? Any sort of regret at all?

Marriage is a two way street. Henry isn't perfect, but he's made his concessions on not having biological children after you tricked him into getting together with you, but even after that he's still trying to make things work, and so have you in some ways.

So really, what was the point of that joke? What went through your mind when you said it? Did you genuinely think it was funny to bring up that source of pain for him, play it for laughs? You think you can just make it up to him later by being cute and saying you're sorry?

You don't think that way though, do you? You know it and so does Henry. Casually and callously asking he don't kill himself as if it wouldn't even bother you that much, jerking off being your first thought after dumping the fact that you're a man to Henry, and now this joke about kids. He needs you, you don't need him, and you see him as something to hurt because that's what you enjoy.

C. Text Terrence, tell them what you did and see if they agree with you.
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No. 1107996 ID: 7e0c2b

>>1107976
Yeah, at this point you're really right about all that. Jess has done nothing but take take take and still feels like a victim when the smallest problem comes up.
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No. 1108011 ID: 0db8d3

Oh.
...
Well it seems you've found the true sore spot that has been bothering Henry.
...Though perhaps jamming a salt and lime encrusted claw into tho wound wasn't the way to find out.
At least now you know now without a shadow of a doubt.

Would a kid- his kid, your kid, lift him out of this funk? Get you the old Henry back? Maybe.
You could tough out the pregnancy itself. Go back to fetishizing it and what not... It's what comes afterwards that would be most annoying. It causes permanent, or at least extremely difficult to undo, changes. Nothing really makes you physically more womanly than a pregnancy. It would be a real sacrifice and that's before the whole raising a kid thing.

In either case, you need to have a serious conversation with Henry about the topic but to do that you'll need to apologize first.
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No. 1108037 ID: 7354fe

C. You're a bit sick-brained, and could use some advice from someone a bit less impaired.
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No. 1108093 ID: 99a466

C

I think an outside perspective might be helpful here. I think we do need to wind up at (A) sooner or later, but it might be good to ruminate a bit with someone else before touching on this sensitive topic again.

I think it is worth considering: how do you feel? Besides the physical nausea, I mean. Do you feel guilty? Or ashamed? Or just kind of frustrated and worried you might lose something important to you?
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No. 1108097 ID: f1368b
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>She should really apologize
Instinctively, Jess feels an urge to make Henry less mad at her by begging forgiveness, but this seems like a case of ‘she should have known better’, and such a reactive apology might come across as hollow without proper thought behind it. Jess knows she has a tendency to act based on social cues rather than anything in her perverted heart, and the fox tries to think about where she went wrong.

Yes it was a sensitive subject, but that’s part of what makes it funny to Jess, like when she told Henry not to kill himself before camping solo. People, especially depressed husbands, really do like to go out in the wilderness and blow their brains out. Realism makes an ironic bit of black comedy feel relevant, gritty, and fun! These damn woke snowflake libs really can’t take a joke anymore.

>Would a kid fix all of this?
A conciliatory child would not be good for either of their psyches. Jess is smart enough to know not to bring a life into this world as a bargaining chip. That ship has sailed, so to speak.

>C, get an outside opinion
Jess is an expert rationalizer and a well-adjusted adult, there’s no winning against her mind in isolation. She needs to phone a friend to figure out how bad she actually fucked up.
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Jess props herself up on her side and painstakingly messages Terrence. She’s so fatigued that she has to take a break between messages to muster willpower.

Jess: Terry my boy I am some kind of weird freak
Jess: I also have food poisoning I’m dying
Jess: The point is I made a morning sickness joke because I was throwing up and Henry got mad
Jess: Honestly I thought it was kind of funny but Henry’s been sore about life recently so I’m wondering if I went too far.
Jess: But like I’d do it again and I know there’s something wrong with me.
Jess: I’m not like other girls uwu
Jess: I guess I’m asking what do to not be mean to Henry even though sometimes I want to be mean to Henry because I am mean

TerTer: Is this part of your marriage trouble? I remember you mentioned it’s been a little rough recently
Jess: Yeah
TerTer: Hm…are you feeling okay? You must be really sick.
Jess: Eh it’s shitty but whatever. Asked Henry to come home early for work but he was busy so I’ve been handling it.

Oh right, she was kind of mad at Henry for that, but she wasn’t mad at him when she told the joke. It just kind of, came to the surface? It wasn’t like her outburst that started Henry’s depression, which came from a kind of desperation, this was an attempt to be funny.

Jess: Am I funny Ter?
TerTer: I think so, yeah. Sometimes you do go a bit overboard.
Jess: Henry’s never yelled at me like that before
Jess: He’s definitely going to feel guilty about it even though I pissed him off
Jess: But I’m not guilty for telling the joke in the first place
TerTer: If that’s how you feel, that’s how you feel. You’re not going to do it again, right?
Jess: Naw. I was going to text him that I’m sorry for bringing up kids when it’s a touchy topic.
TerTer: Give Henry some space, which should be easy when you’re bedridden. You can apologize when you see him in person.
Jess: Ok good idea. Thanks.

Henry should come back soon, or at least Jess hopes so. What does she do while she waits?
A. Talk to Terrence about recruiting a new DnD member
B. Talk to Terrence about gender
C. Talk to Terrence about hot kinky sex
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No. 1108100 ID: 7354fe

B. It'd be nice to talk about it with someone other than Henry. With him, it's a sore spot and the source of your current troubles. To an outsider like Terrence, there's a lot more to it, and much of it is positive.
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No. 1108106 ID: 52a48e

>>1108098
You forget the part where its was a misscarriage joke also shitting out the baby so you told half the joke
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No. 1108109 ID: 6c233e

B) its the crux of the problem. Even if you don't think much of it Henry does. Get some perspective from your friend.
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No. 1108470 ID: f1368b
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>B, guy talk
Jess hits the call button, sick of the massive effort it takes to text. “Hey fag, forget my sad marriage shit and the literal stream of shit coming out of my ass, how are you?”

“I’m fine, just finished dinner. Why’d you call?”

“Because I’m desperately lonely and bored. Let’s talk boy stuff. Since our campaign ended we haven’t had a chance to really examine the trans zeitgeist.”

She hears Terrence sigh. “Well if you’ve looked at the news recently, it hasn’t been great. I don’t really blame you for making the choice to stay closeted, even if Massachusetts is one of the better states to be trans.”

“It’s kinda mostly for Henry’s benefit.” Jess admits. “But I can’t straight up say that or it’ll send him to the brain pits. My shoulders are looking great though! I’m getting some visible lats from working out. You do anything fun lately?”

“There was a drag event at the club recently, and I’ve been volunteering a little at the new queer bookstore. They have a graphic novel book club and a cafe, it’s a great place to hang.”

Terrence pauses and Jess finds she doesn’t have the energy to respond.
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“Jess…I know you’re making the best choices you can, but do you sometimes think you’d be happier without the stress of trying to please Henry?” Tess asks carefully.

“Oh, pffft, yeah, I mean I’ve considered divorce. It’s not what I want, even if it’s been kind of rough lately. We’ve talked about things, we’re still communicating fine, the sex has been slowing down but I’m not going to pressure him into anything.”

“You can communicate clearly with someone and still both be unhappy.”

“Yes Ter, I know. You’re someone who’s interested in kids, would you be offended if I said you pooped out your baby?”

“Um…is this some kind of mpreg reference? Like cis dudes giving birth out of their butts?”

“No this is the other part of the joke I made to Henry I forgot to mention. I said I shat out the imaginary fetus, y’know, because of the food poisoning.”

“Yeah, that’s gross and kind of too far man.”

“Damn.”

Jess feels an uncomfortable wet intestinal mucus fart building in her ass. “I gotta go sit on the toilet again, talk to you later.”

After a few more trips to the toilet, she gives up on waiting for Henry to come home and falls asleep.

>The next morning…
Jess wakes to the sound of Henry moving around their bedroom, getting ready for work. It doesn’t smell like he slept in the bed, so he either used the sofa or stayed the night somewhere else.

She’s going to apologize, but should she ask for something more?
A. Ask him to stay home today
B. Ask if he’s mad at her
C. Just say sorry
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No. 1108472 ID: f4403a

C
Part of being a guy is admitting you were wrong. Even if you thought it was funny. Apologize with no expectation of reward. Be a big man.
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No. 1108474 ID: fd169b

c)
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No. 1108508 ID: dc2977

C. Just say you're sorry, let things cool down.
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No. 1108509 ID: dc4f2b

>>1108472
Big part of life is "suck it up be a man" and none absolutely ever caring about you if anything hapoens that sometimes involves family members but always the general public never caring about you as much as a girl just based on how crime is reported, hugs are less publically accepted and playing with a child at a park who is yours or a relatives gets negative attention.
actually what does it mean to be a man for you Jess? Is it mainly just the aesthetics?
>C first step of mending is the ability to admit or see from anothers perspective, you dont fully get why he is mad but you are sorry for the distress you caused, also you should know asking someone if they are mad often just makes them angrier from just experience
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>C, don’t complicate things
“Henry,” she croaks. “Sorry about what I said yesterday.”

He glances at her. It doesn’t look like he slept very well.

“I shouldn’t have yelled at you. I hope you feel better today” he says flatly.

“Thanks…”

Henry is gone by the time Jess drags herself out of bed to refill her homemade electrolyte drink and use the bathroom. She’s completely empty at this point, but her GI system seems to want to make extra sure it got everything so she stays collapsed on the mattress as the hours trickle by, resting and thoroughly bored. After a while she remembers the medicine and takes a pill in the hope she’ll have enough appetite to nibble some crackers later.
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No. 1108565 ID: f1368b
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>What does it mean to be a man? Is it purely aesthetics?
Sure, it can be. For Jess the look and being perceived as a man are not the dominant drivers in her transness, which is why she’s okay with presenting as a woman. She would very much like to be perceived as a big muscular bear by greater society, but she’ll settle for just being out to her friends and Henry.

Things like compassion, honor, and integrity aren’t male exclusive and with the modern economy in the shape it is, being a provider isn’t either. No, the pivotal cultural norm that Jess internalized during childhood and teendom is that ultraviolence is the realm of men.

The electrical torture scene in 1984, most of Clockwork Orange, even Lord of the Flies, that stuff was basically yaoi to young Jess. Of course she doesn’t want to actually be starved and beaten and strapped to a table and forced to argue politics with Henry, it’s more the general power imbalance vibe is hot, from either end, although Jess is a touch more partial to the sadist side.

Not a lot of girlies breaking new ground in classic dystopian literature. Lots of excellent online original and fan works nowadays but Jess didn’t have proper internet access until she was fourteen and it took longer than that to start looking up specific porn.

What does being a man mean to you?
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No. 1108585 ID: 23183b

>>1108565
Being yelled at by other people.
Being told not to cry.
Being an emotional punching bag.
Getting blamed when shit goes wrong.
Getting accused of being angry 90% of the time.
Being told you smell.
People hyperfocusing on your shortcomings and ignoring your successes.
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No. 1108590 ID: 83c8bb

>>1108565
I'll tell you what it's not - making the life of your family worse because of your feelings and going back on things you promised. A man whose word is without value and who prioritizes his emotions over those of his family would be universally called a failure and a joke as a man.

In that regard, Jess has been more of a woman than ever.
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No. 1108595 ID: 8800ac

Labels like man or woman are fine for personal identity, and whatever you want to ascribe them as to yourself. They used to mean something more back when day to day survival wasn't guaranteed, and even then the most notable people often broke those norms.

If you use them now to define what sort of values you should hold though, you do yourself a disservice. Don't let preconceived notions of man or woman define who you are, be an individual. Decide what is right and wrong for yourself.
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No. 1108611 ID: fd169b

Being a man doesn't mean much to me. Individual differences seem to trump any division between the sexes.

Anyone can be a man, if they think they are.
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No. 1108673 ID: f2320a

>>1108565
Just a scientific biological divide in the species for reproduction its not something you can really change just sculpt and cutt off parts to try looking like the other,trying to be as objective as possible so the whole "identify" thing is strange its illogical just people obsessing over things completely unrelated to the actual genitals/gender/Sex and them being terms mixed up so much basically none knows if its sex or gender, its just sexism in a diffrent package but more random, also often seems to be a thing where alot of people who hate themself just reinvent themself completely.
So what you crave is not masculinity but just power to enact violence over others i know how violence is the last true power in any agreement in nature that then any and all agreements where then further built upon in society for breaking laws either by shunning or retaliation.
So do you just want to be powerful and strong? More power then the social manipulation you can do when there is a goal in mind without feeling really bad as you are simply using there "free" will against them?.

As for me i objectively know my life situation would be better if i was the other so long as i live in a modern first world country, even if i like lifting heavy things, but like man or woman is just biology so using it as definitions for what values you should hold is just fucking weird pronounce are just redundant or annoying as it just ad a extra layer of complexity that dont exist, as individuality often trumps any imagined diffrences its not the fucking i dont know actually but past in time from what ever the current timeline is as women have pants and men have skirts so long as you are irish and your genitals are not having out around children.
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No. 1108674 ID: f2320a

>>1108585
>>1108590
But objectively this is true for subjective social things as its the social standard and the one least likely to care about men are women who are not your mother, its just natural from a sort of social darwinism from evolution men just have less reproductive value as it takes one man to repopulate, supply exceeds demand as it goes, and people who dont provide value by being attractive or having material things simply did not reproduce and died, or where killed by others that could for millions upon millions of years.


Actually so Jess whats your opinion on a more muscular Henry?
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No. 1108677 ID: 23cf5d

>>1108585
Basically this.
Unless I suffer from gender dysphoria (which I don't), anything that is outside of the physical manifestations of an assigned sex is basically societal construct.
Something that is more akin to a choice and which have been engraved into society either by happenstance, tendency or history, and which obsessing over is but a ceaseless cycle of trying to reach the unreachable because I blindsight myself into believing other people care much more than they actually do, and proceed to push them further away in the process.
I am me, and this suffice, society be damned with its subjective assignations of behavior.
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>Being a man is suffering because of the way others use the societal construct of a man against them
Jess doesn’t have much personal experience with this phenomenon, but she thinks everyone has a great capacity for suffering and making others suffer.

>Being a man is thinking you’re a man, don’t let it guide values
Don’t worry, she’s a man as a side effect of her values and desires, not the other way around.

>What if Henry got even more buff?
Hubba hubba!

>Being a man is the opposite of what Jess has done by lying to Henry
It does still make her feel a little guilty…but she won’t do it again, and she’s really been trying to keep their life together afloat.

>Self confidence and self-assuredness are more important than trying to reach the unreachable
>Does Jess just want power? Could she have power and strength but not be a man?
A flicker of doubt crosses Jess’s mind. In the hypothetical scenario where she had absolute dominion over reality, would she be a guy? Well, she’d still have her mortal programming unless she did a personal lobotomy to become an unfeeling god-being, and she’s naturally drawn to masculinity.
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No. 1108757 ID: f1368b
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If she goes all the way to the conclusion that gender doesn’t matter since nothing matters, then logically she’d be fine being a genderless slug, but that damn person lobe in her brain makes her care about society, and if she cares about society she’s going to be a guy since it gives her the least mental friction. There, another effortless victory against being a confused, deluded tomboy.

Satisfied by her mental efforts, Jess returns to being sick of being sick. She misses pissing…Back in the good old days, her body got rid of liquid through her urethra instead of her butt. Imagine.

The fox rolls over on the bed and checks her phone. Wait a second, there’s a text from Becca! Sweet salvation!

HotDog: Can we talk in-person sometime soon about what happened?

Well it’s about time that girl got over her self-hatred and rejoined polite society, it’s been months! Definitely a learning moment about not recruiting repressed religious ex-girlfriends for strings free sex, but Jess is wise and experienced now. She likes Becca, more so than ever during her entertainment lacking recovery.

She schedules an hour to meet with the pooch and get coffee in a few days, sans Henry. What should Jess say to Becca when they see each other?
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No. 1108759 ID: 23183b

>>1108756
>she’s really been trying to keep their life together afloat.
Why? What is your actual reason for keeping this clearly DOA relationship intact?
I know it's not love. You aren't capable of love.
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No. 1108760 ID: cb76eb

Keep her wellbeing the focus, she's likely still hurt. Just be prepared for her to pin Henry in a bad light. Maybe she won't but be ready to explain he's not solely at fault.
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No. 1108766 ID: 8f9359

>>1108757
If you go through with trans and dont have children of your own you can always manipulate BDog to be the surrogate, 2 dads 1 mom modern family
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No. 1108786 ID: fd169b

Gotta play it casual, don't spook her. Just ask how she's been, let her lead the conversation to start.
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No. 1108792 ID: 92f7e7

I agree, let Becca lead. She's the one reaching out, it behooves you to hear what she wants to talk about before introducing any of your own talking points. If small talk doesn't lead into meat of the subject, you can always prompt with, "So what did you want to talk about?" or "Was there anything in particular you wanted to discuss?"

Another thing to consider: it might be good to tell Henry that you're meeting Becca before you do. If he learns you've been talking to Becca without his knowledge, that's liable to further damage his fragile trust in you. Even if he says he should come, too, you don't have to let him; it's probably good to talk with Becca alone, "just the girls," particularly if she deliberately excluided him from the meeting. It might be good to tell Becca that Henry knows you're talking to her, too, just to be upfront and make sure everyone's on the same page. You can reassure Becca that she can still speak in confidence, if she needs to, and tell Henry that some of the things you talked to Becca about she asked you to keep private. The main thing you probably want to avoid is mentioning to Henry at some later point, "Oh, by the way, I've been talking with Becca." I imagine that might set him off.
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1108840

>Why keep the relationship intact since Jess doesn’t seem capable of love?
Even if that were true, there are still plenty of practical reasons to stay married, like the townhouse, the tax benefits, and having at bare minimum a roommate Jess knows does his chores and has a job. She wasn’t the one who was wronged, so things feel emotionally okay on her end. Better than okay, being out to her smart, sexy, and respectful husband is awesome! No real reason to leave unless Henry wants to split.

>A few days later…
Jess’s food poisoning symptoms have mostly cleared up but she’s still fatigued and can barely hold a hover for a full minute. Right now, she and Henry are both home and she’s putting on a cute outfit to go see Becca while he stews on his computer.

>Tell Henry about the date
Jess pokes her head into the office. “Becca reached out a few days ago, honey, I’m going to go chat with her for an hour or so. I’ll be on my best behavior, scout's honor.”

Henry stiffens at the mention of Becca. “Why does she want to talk to you?”

“No idea, maybe she finds me demure and approachable. We were gal pals for while there.”
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No. 1108841 ID: f1368b
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Best behavior means no suicide or pregnancy jokes, which includes teasing Becca about whether she wants to bear Henry’s child. Very sexy and terribly impractical given the current emotional and financial landscape of their lives.

The cafe is close enough that Jess braves the half an hour stroll in time to arrive early and order an iced mocha. She needs the caffeine–the fox already feels tired from a short walk.

The moment she spots Becca come through the door, she gives the pooch a merry wave. “Hey girl, over here!”

Becca might have gained a little weight since the last time they were together, it’s hard to tell when she’s in a modest blouse and skirt instead of her usual baggy clothes. The dog is also wearing a silver cross that rests above her round bosom.

>Play it casual
“So what did you want to talk about, sweetie? I don’t have to share anything with Henry, you have my full confidence.” Jess drains the last of her delicious mocha.

“Hi, yeah, well it’s been kind of rough but I’m doing a lot better now. I’ve healed through my relationship with God and His love.”

“That’s wonderful, I’m so glad.”

“I still have more work to do on myself but I’ve forgiven Henry, though I don’t really want to see him yet. I’m sorry to hear that you two have been having trouble, I hope I didn’t contribute to that.” Becca fiddles with her cross in a mirror of how she used to tug on her hoodie strings.

“Oh no dear, haha, that’s mostly my fault. It’ll work out one way or another.”

“If you don’t mind me asking, what happened?”

A. Explain transing one’s gender to Becca
B. Keep it private, talk about something else (suggest)
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No. 1108846 ID: 23183b

>>1108841
Let's keep being trans away from the recently religious over here.
Rather, let's movies. Has she seen anything good lately? Anything coming up look interesting?
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No. 1108848 ID: a9abe8

A. You should start things off from an honest position with her. She's reaching out, and there's a chance that she's fallen into the dark part of Christianity that'll make her pull away at the idea of transexuality, but assuming the worst is no way to start rebuilding this friendship. You have to give her the chance to be respectful about it.
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No. 1108850 ID: 0db8d3

A.
Given that she took her Bible with her here, exposure to things outside the church seems pretty essential here for her. I worry that if you don't air this out now she may be unable to wrap her head around it in the future.

Intrusive thought: Since Becca is pretty much your polar opposite atm, the anti-you if you will, would you both just spontaneously cease to exist if you made out right now?
Only one way to find out.
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No. 1108851 ID: d30887

>>1108850
Yeah, this.
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No. 1108852 ID: cb76eb

A
Just stay casual and even toned. It's a simple truth about you. No insight or guidance about it needed. Having said that, it has put you at odds with Henry. You would like to fix things.
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No. 1108854 ID: fd169b

A) if thats a problem, then she isn't worth having anything to do with. Might as well find out now and save a lot of time.
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No. 1108857 ID: 02407c

She's definitely fallen into some form of brainwashing considering she starts off saying she's forgiven Henry despite him not doing anything to her.

Still, bringing that up is a bad idea. She'll won't take any criticism well, so just don't criticize anything directly. Go with A, Explain transing one’s gender to Becca. Be even and cool, even if she tries to bring up some "God's love" sort of shit. At the end of the day this is more for Henry, and it's probably going to be the only shot at repairing this relationship.
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No. 1108862 ID: 508d7c

>>1108857
And part is if she is not ready to see him has she really forgiven him or is it that she has not forgiven herself
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No. 1108929 ID: f1368b
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>Has Becca become religious?
The dog was Methodist before, but it sounds like she’s become more pious since they last met as a coping mechanism. Whether that means she’s also become more socially conservative remains to be seen.

>Is that a bible under her arm?
It’s a poorly drawn clutch purse, which Becca has because her skirt doesn’t have pockets for her cards and phone. Strictly inferior to the magnificent hoodie front pouch.
>A, confess in caffeine fueled detail
Jess feels the mocha flowing into her brain, greasing her already lively mind into a machine that turns intrusive thoughts into oversharing.

“It’s a little bit of a long story, basically I’m transmasc and Henry isn’t attracted to men but we got along so well when we were dating that I thought it’d be a terrible waste if we didn’t get married so I detransitioned except I omitted the part where I’m still a man, and earlier this year about the same time you cut him off I told him the truth and he’s been feeling really lost and betrayed. Part of me is like, yeah, it’s a big deal to lie to someone so they marry you, but there’s basically no difference between what I’d be doing or how I’d look if he was cool with me being a man and femme when we got engaged, and like maybe it doesn’t have be a big deal? We’re legally together now and if he doesn’t want a divorce, might as well make the best of things. Anyway, there’s some other stuff mixed in, like not having children even though I thought I could give it a try, and then the whole thing with the finger–you know about Henry’s missing finger, right?”
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No. 1108930 ID: f1368b
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Becca looks a bit overwhelmed. “Er, yes, he r-removed it for you?”

“Right, it was very romantic, but amputating yourself for someone who lied to you can create some nasty emotional feedback. Henry has the perfect mix of anxiety and modern liberal guilt to get brain stuck so we’ve been keeping our distance, as much as we can when we live together, y’know, and he still hasn’t figured out how to make himself feel better about me so he’s depressed. If he never figures it out he might have to take a page out of your book and go on a sabbatical.” Jess tips the empty mug to her snout to extract the last few drops of delicious coffee chocolate. “Move in with his parents or Victor or something, I don’t know. Anyway, I’m a trans queer faggot, always have been, will continue to be even if you’re not cool with it.”

It’s Jess’s turn to flinch when Becca places a gentle paw on her shoulder. “I’m not the best at comforting people, but even if you do bad things, God still loves all of His children. I can see that this has been bothering you a lot and I hope you can give yourself grace.”

“Oh yeah, I’m kind of an expert in giving myself grace. It is what it is and all that.” Jess snarks.

>Hand on shoulder? This is kind of spicy, maybe they should make out
Best behavior! All mental reinforcements to the frontlines of Jess on her best behavior!

“I still care for Henry even though I know seeing him would make me unhappy, which is why I want to keep my distance.” Becca says. “If this is anything like that then I’m sorry you’re suffering. When your loved ones are hurting, especially when it’s your fault, it can be really hard.”

A. Ask Becca if she really thinks the threesome fiasco was her fault (take accountability for seducing her)
B. Ask about Becca’s relationship with God (maybe church is fun)
C. Other (suggest)
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No. 1108931 ID: a9abe8

A. You should really address that first, since she's probably been sitting on it for a while.
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No. 1108933 ID: d30887

B) You're worried about both yourself and Becca. Is there any option to meet halfway? You feel like you live without faith in anything and she's living too deeply with faith and both options are becoming increasingly toxic to both of you.
Let the truth out.
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No. 1108937 ID: 6d5273

C. tell her while you two are keeping your distances, you're still seeing him, and looking into ways to get closer to Henry, doing things like getting him some help through therapy (maybe Jess should join him in a session one day?) doing small activities with him like massages or visits to the beach. Important thing is that while you're currently both keeping your distances on the subject, you're not running from him, and actively communicating with him, looking for ways to make things work. Baby steps, y'know?

(The idea is to show that while you are suffering as Becca claims, you're not running from Henry like she was, perhaps seeing your tenacity to communicate and help Henry might inspire her to text Henry or something later. Don't tell her or accuse her of running tho.)
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No. 1108946 ID: 9433f8

A. It's time to talk about what happened and take responsibility.
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No. 1108960 ID: 92f7e7

C

Ask why she was interested in talking to you even though she doesn't want to talk to Henry. If there was something specific she wanted to talk about, I don't think she's mentioned it, yet.

I remember Christianity always being important to Becca. She mentioned it the first time she showed up, hanging out with Henry and the guys.
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No. 1108962 ID: 0db8d3

Becca has poked at something forbidden and possibly painful in an entirely sincere way.

Gonna need you to roll a compartmentalization check to avoid damage to sociopathic mental framework.
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No. 1108965 ID: db4c63

>>1108946
Should we talk about how we have cultivated a enviroment spesifically so we basically get only hate sex kinky best possible hot sex, but still hate sex from antagonizing him in small ways that come naturally, the thoughts about henry as a roommate and how it actually if voiced would be the final straw on the camels back breaking his heart and soul potentially forever?
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No. 1109048 ID: f1368b
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>Jess cultivated the current environment of hate sex and misery
She takes most of the credit for the misery, but Henry’s the one that initiated the hate sex.

>Vulnerability compartmentalization check (90%): Success
Eh, Becca didn’t say anything Jess didn’t already know. The fox was just kind of taken aback by the physical contact after the recent dry spell with Henry.

>C, with a pinch of A
Jess isn’t really interested in organized religion even though it’s clearly important to Becca. She’s not gonna be an annoying atheist about it or anything, but she’s also not planning to dive deeper into faith either.

“Thanks, I’m taking care of myself and making sure Henry still does fun stuff, like we went to the beach and saw a few movies. It’s not catastrophic, but yeah, not great.” Jess sighs when Becca removes her warm hand. “Is there anything special you wanted to tell me? Or was it mostly that you wanted me to pass along the message to Henry that you’re doing okay?”
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No. 1109049 ID: f1368b
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“Yes, mostly that, thank you.” Becca readjusts herself in her seat and shoots an anxious glance at the cafe counter. “Should I order? I don’t want to be rude and stay without buying anything.”

“You should be fine, I got something and I don’t think we’ll be here much longer.” Jess stretches to get some of those caffeine jitters out. It’s kind of funny how little Becca seems to take her into consideration, former friends with benefits wise. Speaking of…

“Hey, I wanted to apologize to you too, I kind of used our friendship to get you involved with sex with me and Henry.”

>Becca caring avoidance check (70%): Failure
The dog frowns. “What do you mean? Henry was the one who had sex with me.”

“Well, you know, I kind of was trying to seduce you from the very beginning, when we met at the escape room. And I had sex with you too! Toys count, not everything has to be P in V, especially in the queer world.”

Maybe Jess shouldn’t have said that. Becca curls her lip and stands up from the table.

“Thank you for coming to meet me, but I don’t want to continue a fake friendship. I wish you and Henry the best.”

She heads for the exit. Okay, wow, that might be a burned bridge. Jess didn’t think she did anything particularly bad, did she? Everything she said was true…

A. Go home and talk to Henry
B. Run after Becca
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No. 1109050 ID: a9abe8

...Eh, fuck it, we've been mature for enough consecutive choices.

B. What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
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No. 1109051 ID: 61581a

You didn't say anything wrong really. Honestly, you and Henry never did anything wrong either. It was just sex. Didn't lie to her like you did to Henry, she knew what she was getting into.

Becca seemed alright at first, but she's so quick to burn bridges, not face her problems, and blame others. Doesn't care who she hurts doing that either. Kinda like you in how you don't care sometimes either, but at least you face your problems and have started being honest with yourself and others. You're trying.

I dunno. B. I guess just ask her if that's what she really wants to do. Don't spend that much effort on it, just make sure she knows of the decision she's making. If she walks away now, it's probably the last time she'll ever talk to you and Henry. If she's cool with that, so be it.
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No. 1109052 ID: f2320a

>>1109049
B. Run after Becca
>>1109051
Thing is her and henry are so similar they are extremely avoidant like she needs to be pushed to not drift away
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No. 1109064 ID: d30887

Okay, red flags.
B
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No. 1109066 ID: fd169b

B) you didn't mean it to be a fake friendship right?
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No. 1109095 ID: f1368b
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>B, don’t let Becca be avoidant
Jess leaps to her feet and chases after the pooch before Becca can escape to her car.

“Becca, I didn’t think our friendship was fake! I still want to talk, where are you going?”

Thankfully the dog stops walking away and turns to face the fox. Her eyes are filled with tears.

“I don’t want to get h-hurt anymore, Jess.” she sobs. “Sex might not be a big deal to you, but it is to m-me and I don’t want–you should know it’s not nice to use people.”

“Yes, I’m realizing that a lot recently. I was dumb, but I can learn and get better. I’m sorry for hurting you, please Becca, I want to have you in my life.”

>Becca forgiveness check (30%): Failure
“I’m sorry.” Becca wipes her eyes and sniffs. “We can find other people, Jess, sometimes things don’t work out and that’s okay. Life is still beautiful and blessed.”

Jess scuffs the heel of her sandal against the ground in frustration. That was a clear dismissal. “Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Goodbye Becca.”
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No. 1109096 ID: f1368b
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Jess goes back inside the cafe to put her mug away so she doesn’t have to watch Becca leave. She’s a little scared, Henry might be angry when she tells him what happened. It–It wasn’t her fault though, right? Telling the truth and making sure everything is out in the open is supposed to be good, but Becca getting offended and cutting them both off is bad.

She doesn’t want to disappoint him, especially when she was supposed to be trying her best! He’ll think she’s incompetent and even more untrustworthy.

What does she say to Henry?
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No. 1109097 ID: a9abe8

Just tell him the truth, and don't try to hide the way you feel about it. The worst impression you can give is that you said something callous and spoiled the moment because you didn't care. Let him in, and let him see that you were honestly trying to rekindle the friendship, and she just turned you down.
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No. 1109098 ID: 6d5273

Well, she already told Henry she never wanted to see him or you again in the past, I don’t think he was expecting us to get back together after that harsh rejection in the first place, so we probably don’t have to worry too much about Henry getting too angry.

so we can just tell Henry that she just wanted to try to change your lifestyle, see if there was something compatible between you two, but in the end, it wasn’t something you were willing to do, and found both your lifestyles to be too drastically different to remain friends, so you both parted ways.



Then let out a sob
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No. 1109100 ID: f2320a

>>1109096
You will need to try another time this again she and henry are similar in so many ways and the guilt from this is eating at him... next time we should probably nly make her feelings seem like less by ignoring what she feels by saying its no big deal... hmm yeah now we are probably not get help from her being a surrogate
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No. 1109101 ID: 5a90a9

The truth works in your favor here. You were trying to do the right thing and make amends for a previous mistake. The consequences suck but that's the risk.
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No. 1109110 ID: debc82

>>1109096

... maybe this whole situation with Becca -- and your concerns over Henry being upset -- is one of the things you need to face.

Like sure, maybe you did kind of set this whole fiasco into motion and maybe you did start by hitting on Henry's cute chubby ex, and maybe you did lead her into a massive, religion-fueled guilt-trip over trying to do something to make herself happy, but it's just part of a bigger pattern, you know?

Like the whole beach thing with Henry. Or the recent jokes that he clearly isn't all that over.

You've kind of been pushing people, constantly, without really letting up. And maybe, just maybe, the consequences of having all of that blow up on you is something more than you're ready to face.

Your husband's clearly depressed over the marriage, you're having issues just being around one another because he's begun to doubt everything you do, and you may have also just managed to set fire to the one bridge he's been agonizing over the most. The hypothetical divorce won't fix that, and honestly? It'll just eat him up inside because he'll blame himself that he couldn't bring himself to be attracted to the idea of you as a man.

You're not at fault for that last bit, sure, but oh man, you're definitely kind of on a long streak here.

So maybe it's time to just ... sit down with him and talk. Really talk. Because maybe you're not in as much control as you think you are, and that is what you're agonizing over.

Like the hotdog food poisoning thing. Or all the other weird shit. Because there's kink, and then there's compulsion, you know?
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No. 1109166 ID: f1368b
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Jess starts the walk back home and plans her explanation. The blades of grass in the passing lawns are vivid and sharp, and every trill of a bird is an ecstatic occasion. Man, she remembers why she usually sticks to weed.

>She needs to face what she did and have a heart to heart with Henry
Jess feels like that’s what she’s been doing. When she tried to be vulnerable and ask Henry for help when she was sick, she got rebuffed.

She was gone from the townhouse for maybe an hour and a half and Henry is right where she left him, hunched over his computer. Jess clears her throat.

>Tell the truth that she told the truth
“Becca’s doing well, she seems really into religion now. She wanted me to pass along that she forgives you but seeing you would hurt her emotionally. When I apologized for seducing her, I think she realized she’s not compatible with me either, so, yeah. I don’t think she’ll contact us again.” Jess takes a steadying breath. “I’m sorry, honey.”
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No. 1109167 ID: f1368b
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>29 months and one week after the wedding
Henry stares past his partner as the fox’s words sink in. It’s not exactly a surprise that Becca cut them both off, but it still gives him a nasty sinking feeling in his stress twisted stomach. They really ruined a long-time friendship out of a selfish desire for sex, didn’t they? What self-sabotaging idiots.

Jess lingers in front of him, smelling like coffee and shifting from foot to foot. He’s even wringing his hands, a fairly unusual behavior for the confident, stoic fox. Oh, so this is bothering him more than breaking Henry’s heart did, huh?

How does Henry respond?
A. Be positive or neutral (suggest)
B. Be negative (suggest)
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No. 1109168 ID: 6d5273

A, then maaaaybe B depending on Jess' response.

for neutral, Henry already accepted Becca's loss, so he's not too angry. He's more disappointed in Jess' attitude and believes needs adjustments. Ask Jess why are you the only one going to therapy when it's clearly couples therapy. It's clear this fox needs mental help. then B if Jess denies needing it being more agressive about going listing the actions that cause mental anguish to both you and your friends.
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No. 1109169 ID: d30887

B) Be angry at Jess - but not for your sake. It's clear that you're disturbed at the path Becca is taking and Jess screwed up a chance to make sure she's actually okay.
Demand that both of you garnish your own wages to pay for a private eye. They shouldn't stalk Becca directly, but rather, stalk her church. Make sure it's honestly trying to put people on the holy path, and not using them for their own ends. If everything appears to be moderated and stable, you'll drop it for good and wish Becca the best. But right now, it feels like you're letting your personal drama get in the way of defusing a ticking time bomb and you need to literally pay for that.
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No. 1109171 ID: debc82

>>1109167

A+B.

You know, it IS pretty interesting that fear of his disappointment is somehow worse than having lied to him about transitioning so they could get married.

Sure, losing Becca sucks, but that's ... pretty backward, don't you think? Becca is -- was -- a friend, but this is our lives together that Jess seems less concerned about.
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No. 1109172 ID: c2976f

>>1109167
I'm gonna have to say B - It's pretty clear that whatever chance they had of keeping her as a friend got bungled up by her.

But hey, that's just the latest update in the long string of garbage that's been happening to him thanks to jess's decisions.
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No. 1109179 ID: a9abe8

B. You clearly have some thoughts you want to address, so it'd be better to get them out of your head and let Jess understand where your thoughts are at. They may be a bit harsh, but the honesty will serve you both better than a comforting lie would.

Do not blame Jess for bungling things up with Becca though. You don't know how that conversation went down, and you don't know if she did anything truly disagreeable. It's not like you left things in a good place yourself. That Becca chose to reach out to Jess and not you already proves that she wasn't that open to seeing you again. Meeting with Jess may have confirmed that fact, or it may have just helped her decide that she didn't need to see Jess either.

Do suggest switching to doing couple's therapy together. You could probably use it.
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No. 1109299 ID: cb76eb

A
Clearly their pain point is approaching. His stoic facade is cracking after dropping the ball. Acknowledge that him tried don't try to break him.
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No. 1109305 ID: 0db8d3

>Oh, so this is bothering him more than breaking Henry’s heart did, huh?

No. This moment is just fucking you up more because events are starting to compound. Henry's heart and all the things he's been going through, The recent joke incident, the Becca thing that just happened, and now the love of your life is staring at you as if he just caught you with your mitts in the cookie jar.

Henry's expression is evocative.
He knows there's more to the story.
He expects you to lie by omission.
And he'll just accept it if you do.
But it's a trap!
He seems simply too tired to fight.

Which means if you don't tell the whole story here you'll be setting up something very bad to happen.

Now, while normally this would be easy enough to do, you are currently sitting under Four layers of guilt right now and you clearly have NO IDEA how to process emotions so...

Lol, good luck.
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No. 1109314 ID: f1368b
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>B
“Well, thanks for bungling that up.” Henry mutters. “Now Becca’s gotten brainwashed and for some reason you care more about an awkward conversation than our marriage.”

Jess seems stunned for a moment, then cocks his head, thinking.

“We need to start couples therapy, your attitude towards all of this needs fixing.” Henry continues.

“Yes, good idea.” Jess says robotically. “Maybe that’ll help more than what you’ve been doing with Dr. Machine. Would you like me to schedule something?”

The fox smiles in a way that looks guilty and fake. Henry wonders if he even really likes Jess anymore.

“No, I’ll take care of it. I already did research into a bunch of therapists.”

Jess backs out of the office and scurries downstairs, leaving Henry to look through his list.
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No. 1109315 ID: f1368b
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>As a reminder, here are the available therapist options:

Levy the high-strung quail.
A chill, male capybara.
The telehealth wonders of Dr. Machine the mouse.
A young, curvy, sex positive hippopotamus.
Linda Hoffman the German German shepherd.
An old, bespectacled Rogerian rat.
Maddy the transfeminine horse.

In case of a tie, Henry will default to Dr. Machine.
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No. 1109317 ID: d30887

Maddy. No idea if adding drama will make things worse but it's already worse.
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No. 1109318 ID: a0671f

Linda because I wanna see the German German Shepards accent
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No. 1109319 ID: debc82

>>1109315

Voting either the Capybara (they'll be super chill through it all, and you can put a tiny citrus on their head) or Frau Linda Hoffman.

Failing either, at least we have a rapport with Dr. Machine.
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No. 1109324 ID: 0db8d3

Hippo, but failing that, joining in on the Double German Shepherd Volkswagen.
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No. 1109326 ID: a9abe8

I'll toss a vote onto Linda, the German Squared.
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No. 1109332 ID: cb76eb

>>1109315
Hippo time. We need a change here.
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No. 1109333 ID: fd169b

Hippo, or Maddy
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No. 1109346 ID: 6d5273

RIP Fredrick the only therapist not on this list, lol

German shepherd, how thicc will she be?

her accent that is
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No. 1109355 ID: 53b30a

Hippo
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No. 1109365 ID: f2320a

>>1109315
hippo but if not
then the german.
wonder if Jess will feel Envy gazing upon her
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No. 1109372 ID: 6b8094

Maybe Linda can shepherd him the right way.
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No. 1109386 ID: 38a2b1

voting hippo
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No. 1109406 ID: bfb366

I vote the chill carpincho because kin beckons kin and because Henry needs succor and containment.
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No. 1109407 ID: f1368b
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>Hippo: Belinda Lybbert
It’s so fucking expensive. Henry talks through his options over the phone with the receptionist–usually for couples therapy the doctor would want to meet with them both individually for an hour before their first real session, which is a prohibitive amount of time and money when couples therapy isn’t covered by insurance.

He bargains down to an hour and a half total, 20 minutes for each of them and then 50 minutes together. At least she has glowing reviews and decent availability.

>A few days later
Henry can’t help but stare when he walks into the office. Belinda’s professional headshot didn’t do her curves any justice, she’s perfectly plump with tight white dress pants that leave little to the imagination.

She greets them warmly and leads Jess away, leaving Henry to tap his foot and look at the abstract wall-hangings.
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No. 1109408 ID: f1368b
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When it’s his turn, Henry tries to tell the story in chronological order. He and Jess clicked really well at the beginning, they got married, he cut off his finger (at this part Belinda’s eyes widen), they started considering a house and children, bought the townhouse, things seemed good, and then Jess decided to drop the bomb about being a man when Henry isn’t attracted to men.

“I’m an anxious person. I don’t take any medication for it but it’s definitely noticeable. I’ve been depressed for months and the therapy I was doing didn’t help. I’m starting to feel kind of resentful of Jess even though I know he’s trying. I just don’t think he’s capable of actually being sorry.”

Belinda jots down a few notes and gives him a pat on the shoulder that makes his skin tingle as she goes to bring Jess back in.

“For couples therapy, I’ll mediate a conversation between both of you.” she explains. “Speak openly and honestly to each other. My role is to stay professional and make sure both parties have a fair chance to talk.”

She points her pen at Henry to go first. What does the wolf really want from Jess at this point?
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No. 1109417 ID: d30887

Henry: Open up about how you want Jess to be nonbinary instead of fully transmasculine, because you feel like the woman you love is somewhere in there, but in truth she doesn't exist exist at all. But you can't and shouldn't just force Jess to be something he's not.
Jess: You're not sure if love and freedom are mutually exclusive, but right now it feels like they constantly are. The worst part is that you feel that if you chained up and tortured a part of your very soul, Henry would truly love you. But every part of you that struggles and strives to succeed feels like you'd be giving in. You'd lose yourself to love. Is that even love anymore?
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No. 1109418 ID: a9abe8

Trust. You just want to feel like you can trust him again, with anything and everything.

This whole thing started because Jess broke your trust and hid how he really felt about his gender until he couldn't keep it in anymore. You know he's apologetic, but that's not the issue. The problem is that you're the one who has to adapt to everything he's thrown at you now. All of the plans you'd been making before have been thrown out, and it's on you to figure out what that means for the future.

And Jess has been nice about it for the most part. He's been trying to help you feel comfortable with things, and you're sure if you decided to end the relationship in light of things that he'd accept it, but you don't want to end things! You had a really great thing, and it's not dead in the water, it just has to change, but you hate having to change it from this position. You should have been having all these discussions before the marriage, before buying the house, before committing so deep. But instead, you have to do it all now, because Jess lied to you.

It feels lonely. All of the negative feelings you're experiencing feels like a battle you have to face by yourself, while Jess only has to deal with the surface-level stuff, like the fact that you've felt bad depressed because of all this. He doesn't have to throw away her plans or make any new sacrifices, he's set the new terms that you have to find a way to make peace with, and you don't think he really understands how much that hurts. He made a joke the other day about having a miscarriage, while you're still mourning your dream of one day having a kid with him. He apologized, but did he seriously not realize how shitty that was?

The other day, a friend of yours who things got complicated with touched base with Jess after asking for space a long while ago. You don't know what happened, but the end result is that she doesn't want anything to do with you moving forwards. You believe that Jess tried to make it work, and that they feel bad that it ended badly, and that should be enough. You should be able to support your partner, but you just feel angry instead. Angry that it failed, angry that he cared more about messing that up than everything else that's fucked right now, and angry that it's been so long and you still feel this shitty.

You don't need Jess to be a woman again, and frankly, you'd probably just be mad if he tried to de-transition back at this point. You just want to get back to the way things were, back when it felt like you were a team, instead of just two people who have to work around each other. You want to be able to confide in Jess, and you want to be able to trust him the way you did before everything went wrong. You just don't know how to get there.
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No. 1109419 ID: 823e8e

>>1109408
I feel like it would be very weird to not bring up how we wanted kids, how Jess agreed to have kids, how we went all our way out to do stuff like see a different house for the kids...all for Jess to say "Nah, I dont feel like it lol"
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No. 1109421 ID: 823e8e

>>1109419
Well, "we", I guess Henry wanted them, and Jess married him seemingly open to the idea.
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No. 1109425 ID: fd169b

Not to mention how Henry seems to be taking Jess' gender identity more seriously than they are. Says they're male but still refers to themselves as she. If they are that noncommittal on their own identity, then what of their marriage vows?
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No. 1109434 ID: f2320a

>>1109408
Jess he was at the start of the trouble, was so nonchalant about the potential of divorce just shrugging and leaving the decision to me the conveniance of a roommate, i dont know what happened we switched around with eachother doing our kinks and chasityplay i had to be shocked with a shock collar while its not my kink and just painful for months, while orally servicing jess while it was my turn i feed him cake and the chacityplay we negotiated we came to a agreement about but i guess he simply lied or did not want to tell me as after one DND game with his friends everything changed all our plans together gone suddenly ... i was not enough for him.

Thing to mention from jess is probably is the competative spirit the days they could go without orgasm how he was going to beat Henrys record but it was torture but not the fun sexual kind and how it pushed him over the edge
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No. 1109443 ID: f2320a

>>1109434
Actually did we mention the eating of the finger?
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No. 1109455 ID: 0db8d3

He can see that Jess has been trying to make him happy. He can appreciate that.

But he wants-needs to trust him. And right now he just can't.

Henry can't be happy with Jess if he's constantly second-guessing and overthinking everything the fox says and does. Just being around him is exhausting.

It would help if he could just get an apology. A *real* apology. Maybe then he could heal. But Jess...
Jess can say he's sorry, but can it ever be real? Can Jess ever really understand what he's done? What this means? Could it ever be truly sincere?

Henry needs Jess to be able to not only understand, but truly appreciate this situation if things are going to move forward. What it all means. How it made Henry Feel and the weight of it all. The level of trust that was breached. The number of future unknowns this creates...

The amount of worry and pain and chaos this causes Henry and Jess is over there acting like everything's fine... Goddamn it he's not married to an actual psychopath, is he?
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No. 1109508 ID: f1368b
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Henry talks to the space over Jess’s right shoulder, unable to meet the fox’s eye. “More than anything, I want to be able to trust you. I feel like you could drop the bomb that you want to transition at any moment and destroy me again.”

Jess and Belinda nod so he keeps going. “I don’t want to keep you from being your true self and I miss being a team, but I feel like I’m the one who has to keep giving stuff up. Like, I wasn’t expecting you to want kids and I got excited for nothing. It hurts that you don’t even seem to care about my feelings or what you did. You’re so nonchalant and it bothers me, I want a real apology.”

He trails off and Belinda gestures to Jess.

“Henry.” His partner is staring him full in the face and it’s unpleasant. “I’m sorry for lying to you and manipulating you for my own benefit. I hurt you and I don’t want to hurt you like that again.”

“You’re not sorry though.” he mumbles. “You’re not upset at all.”

“I don’t always cry or lose my cool, but this is affecting me too. Please believe that.”
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No. 1109509 ID: f1368b
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Henry shakes his head. “I feel like I’m taking this more seriously than you are. Even your gender–you still don’t use masculine pronouns for yourself!”

Jess frowns. “Do you want me to? That’s going to be impossible to enforce with Mahan or even your parents.”

“Sometimes I want you to make your own decisions, okay? I want you to tell me what you actually think is true, trying to figure out your ulterior motive all the time is exhausting. If you’d done that from the start we wouldn’t even be in this mess.”

Jess tilts his head. “But we wouldn’t be married, either.”

“Maybe that would have been for the best, but it’s too late now.” Henry says bitterly.

“If you want me to act purely based on my desires and not because of what I think is best for us, I’ll transition and we can get a divorce.” Jess says. “Otherwise you have to change, because I don’t think this is sustainable. I don’t like being demeaned and ignored by my husband.”

“Y’all are making my job easy.” Belinda titters nervously.

A. Yes, it’s for the best
B. No, keep trying (maybe meds?)
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No. 1109510 ID: 02f2fc

>>1109509
Demeaned and Ignored? Henry has done nothing but sacrifice in order to make things better and accomodate Jess. So what now? Just keep letting it push further? How much longer until Jess decides "I don't feel fine with this anymore, I want to get the surgery."

All this sacrifice, and after the slightest pushback it's all of a sudden "I'm being demeaned and ignored!". Man, at this point I'm left wondering why Henry doesn't just dump her ass and try to find a woman who actually cares about him.
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No. 1109511 ID: a9abe8

B. I don't think getting divorced will fix Henry's mood. It might help, I won't deny it, but it may come with its own regrets. You don't have to take it off the table, but I think stabilizing Henry should be the priority. When he's in a better place, THEN I think it'd be worth revisiting the question one more time.

Meds may be a good idea. Henry's made solid efforts to try and improve his mood, getting therapy and taking the advice he's been offered, but sometimes you gotta get the chemicals in your brain working right before you can really start cleaning the place up.
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No. 1109519 ID: 60dd6a

christ, just get a fucking divorce and be done with it
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No. 1109525 ID: fd169b

If the only way to stay together is to suppress your desires, then it seems like divorce is inevitable. If not now then years down the road when resentment has piled too high to ignore.
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No. 1109537 ID: 441763

Why not A and meds though, regardless, team A
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No. 1109549 ID: 18a530

A. This isn’t working, and that’s okay.
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No. 1109557 ID: f2320a

>>1109509
Secret option C) actually doing couples therapy and not jumping to decisions seeing what belinda can actually do.
Jess its not just about desires on how to live then we would be the lab rat experiment with the orgasm button pressing it every second until you start starving to death.

This moment here is exactly why jess i feel useless why it feels like everything is my fault did you even want to get married in the first place.... did you ever love me? .... or even just like me, you jump to divorce so fast and say it so coldly so casually now and earlier like its nothing, why do you not care about this but about messing up our relationship with Becca, are you aware of your own emotions up until you suddenly erupt am i even aware of any of them? And demeaned and ignored so you feel the same as me? But thats why are at couples i dont think i was fully aware you felt like that, we therapy because we both wanted for this to work i hope atleast.
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No. 1109560 ID: cb76eb

C. We paid for this therapist, let's not do her job for her. We need honest to God solutions and compromise. Not ultimatums.
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No. 1109561 ID: d30887

C) Yeah, like Belinda said, her job is to help you understand your marriage. Are you absolutely sure it's broken beyond repair?
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No. 1109562 ID: 92f7e7

A

We tried. But Henry seems to be too romantic, and Jess just isn't invested the same way. It really doesn't seem like the two have a future together in the way that Henry was hoping, and Jess's ideas of a future together don't seem to involve marraige the same way Henry's would. Maybe they can keep fucking each other sometimes, if it's not too painful for Henry, but they don't need to live in the same house and promise to be together till death do they part if there's no life for them to live together.
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No. 1109575 ID: 53b30a

A. please
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No. 1109580 ID: 0db8d3

I like this new C option.

Just because things have come to a head doesn't mean they have to end. Shit this is the most these two have really talked about this since Jess dropped the initial bomb.

This is just as much a communication issue as it is a trust issue, and Jess doesn't know when to communicate and Henry can be too emotional to communicate with effectively. Here, now, especially under a therapists direction, is the perfect chance to get things to work.

It's clear to me that both parties still possess a deep respect for one another despite everything, which is a fantastic foundation for a relationship. Divorce at this point would be premature, perhaps even a little tragic. I think they owe it to themselves to give this at least one more shot.
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No. 1109583 ID: 44e302

A. You two had a good run but clearly this isn't going to work out anymore. Both of you are still young so it's probably for the best if you two end this sooner rather than later and look for new partners that that can fulfill both of your needs. If you two are still not sure then you don't have to divorce right away but you could try separating for a month to see if this is the correct choice before proceeding with the actual divorce.
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No. 1109587 ID: 90bde2

>>1109557

Changing my vote to this
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No. 1109589 ID: acdaec

A. The hardest part is starting over.
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No. 1109590 ID: b74c60

>>1109519
Jess seems to twice just leave it up to henry dealing in absolutes instead of discussiin how to compromise things lile if Jess is npt going to be pregnant could have a surrogate or just have henry imoregnate someone other woman.
Also if we decide now to end it then we have paid the therapist for nothing and just wasted both of us our time and money
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No. 1109606 ID: 7b046f

C)
Have the therapist have a say dammit!
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No. 1109611 ID: 2b0164

>>1109557
Divorce is becoming more and more like the least harmful, but I've gotten this far into this story, dammit, and I want to at least try for something more than tears and burned bridges.


It occurs to me that Jess hasn't talked about why she identifies as male. The whole concept of identifying both herself and masculinity with gore and violence seems to be a rather prominent factor, and it is important to unpack it with someone other than us.... I mean, her inner monologues!

Also, we should retrace what Henry and Jess saw in each other that made them fall in love at first. What is the connection that made them click with each, and what they expected to get from being together.

Continiung to find common ground is what it's all about, baby, so option C) for Carry on with the therapy is my vote.
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No. 1109620 ID: 4c3833

>>1109611
Like jess have not come to the realization that not everything is linked to sex on what intrests you can have and hobbies perhaps thats what the other person is getting at with the comment that jess is not even taking there own gender identity seriously and jess internal monologue about "not being a poor deluded Tomboy" perhaps she is the sort of trans that believes tomboys dont actually exist and are just confused "'eggs' that need to be 'cracked/hatched' to become trans" sort of person as her idea of masculinity is just a idealized fantasy of violance and power like we have gotten to know alot about how henry feels but not jess completely as we have not asked enough questions to figure out there logic
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No. 1109632 ID: f1368b
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>Continue the therapy session
He paid, so he’s going to get his money’s worth. Henry turns to Belinda. “I’ll answer Jess at the end of the session, but I want to know what you want us to talk about first.”

“Of course, hun. I think you two are communicating very well already and you both know what the issues with your marriage are, so I don’t have to use my usual icebreakers.”

“I want icebreakers.” Henry says firmly. “Hit me with an icebreaker.”

“When you started dating, what did you two like about each other?”

Jess chimes in. “I thought he was handsome, mature, and kind. I felt safe talking to him about sex and kink, even the more extreme stuff. With modern dating you hear all kinds of horror stories about cis guys, but Henry was a proper gentleman.”

Belinda nods encouragingly and Henry tries to remember why he got married.

“I could tell Jess was really smart, smarter than me. He was funny and attractive and open about his desires. Before, I hadn’t dated anyone who was so adventurous and unfiltered and it was nice not having to guess what he was feeling–for as long as that lasted.”

“I think you still respect and care for each other.” Belinda says. “You’re also both emotionally mature, which I don’t usually see, haha. What else do you want to say?”
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No. 1109633 ID: f1368b
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>Ask Jess why he’s a man
“I relate more to social expectations of being a man, I like the aesthetic, and while I don’t have a problem with presenting as a woman, I think I would always prefer to be a man since it’s more true to me as a person.” Jess explains.

Henry finds himself doubting Jess in the privacy of his mind, which makes his cognitive dissonance with being a good queer ally activate. He’s shit, he’s absolute shit.

The fox studies his face. “Does it hurt to spend time with me?”

“Sometimes, yeah.” Henry mutters. “You say cruel things without meaning to, and I can’t help but be frustrated with how easily you get to me.”

>A, divorce
No, he doesn’t want to live like this. Jess is who he is and that isn’t compatible with their marriage anymore. Belinda’s not responsible for magically feminising the fox, and even though change is hard, it’s the start of new opportunities.

He takes the offered tissue box and blows his nose. “I think I w-want the divorce.”

“Okay Henry, that’s fine, thank you for telling me.” Jess says.

Henry spends the last twenty minutes of the session basking in Belinda’s sympathy and condolences before the hippo gently leads them out of the office. He’s crying but not sobbing, in fact he feels lighter than he has in months. Now they just need to get their affairs in order.

After they drive home, Jess disappears into the bathroom for a makeover while Henry does some research on no-fault divorce in Massachusetts. The main thing they need to do is decide on alimony and how to divide their assets. Once that’s settled they can decide who’s living where until and after the divorce is final.

Henry makes $100K/year and Jess makes $50K/year. The mortgage for the $650K sticker price and $100K paid off townhouse is $3K/month. The car ($10K value) is paid off. Between stocks and their shared savings account, they have $40K. They are not going to withdraw anything from their retirement accounts.

Propose how to split assets and give alimony payments (Jess will want 50/50 at minimum).
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No. 1109637 ID: f2320a

>>1109633
Bit early perhaps its a wake up call compremise is hard when you cant communicate about a middle ground.
>After they drive home, Jess disappears into the bathroom for a makeover.
Yeah its probably not make up thats being done but will need to be done after.
So henry earns two thirds of all the money but jess would not accept a split based on income and anything else thats below% would probably result in it no longer being a no fault divorce, so living situation will jess live here as a Renter?(need to figure out the living situation but i am in no rush to have them leave, and having them here makes for a interesting story with jess seeinh hrnry rebuild his life) Feels like the house would end up in henrys hands with his income level and plans to start a family
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No. 1109639 ID: 0db8d3

Wait- before that, are they going to be separating or cohabitating?

Kinda hard to figure out Alimony and the mortgage split without that.

I can think of good arguments both for and against both separation and cohabitation post-divorce for both financial and emotional reasons, and I can't imagine splitting assets liabilities, establishing alimony, or forming contracts without having that established.
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No. 1109640 ID: 0db8d3

Oh, also, assets and liabilities aside, in -roughly present day America's- housing market, the house is an almost guaranteed high-return investment, even with the mortgage. How much do each of the parties value such speculation?
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No. 1109642 ID: fd169b

Best to make a clean break. Split the sale of the house. Whoever needs the car most can buy out the other's half. I'm not sure what alimony law is like in their state, but really Jess should be able to forgo that. maybe just a even split for one year to get them on their feet.
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No. 1109653 ID: 53b30a

Make it clean 50/50 split, Henry might need the car more however since he hasto drive to work, Jess works from home if i'm remembering correctly. Also probably might be a good time for Henry to call his parents and friends for emotional support and advice, same goes for Jess.
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No. 1109665 ID: 92f7e7

The house seems like the biggest potential sticking point to me. Even if it'd be a high-value investment, who would want to live there? Living in a big empty house that was going to be where he raises his family seems like the sort of thing that would eat at Henry until he has to move out, anyway (unless he manages to find a new partner pretty quickly). It bears a bit of discussion, but I'm thinking a sale is the way to go.

Henry needs the car for his commute. I think he needs to keep it; if you sell the house, then Jess can take money equivalent to the car's value out of the sale.

Are there any other things that might be subject to dispute? I imagine most things you can just go through one by one and decide who keeps it, to sell it, or to give it away.
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No. 1109712 ID: 0db8d3

>>1109665
House is small, land value is just freaken insane. The extra room could be an office or roommate or something.

Major sticking point is probably Alimony. I can see Henry paying Jess between 500 to 2000 dollars a month for a year or two depending on how other assets/liabilities are split if going with a straight 50/50 split, assuming they're going with a typical separation. Though since money issues haven't come up with either of them I have no idea how they'll approach it.
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No. 1109759 ID: 2b0164

Umm.. just to be sure, we are factoring the money Jess is going to need for therapy for the whole trouble-feeling-regular-empathy-and-wanting-to-eat-people thing, right?
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No. 1109762 ID: 0db8d3

>>1109759
Lol Jess will need therapy for a lot more than that. This whole divorce thing is gonna fuck him up hard.

Jess won't even know it though until way later, so I doubt therapy is even on his radar.
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No. 1109790 ID: 2f6dd5

>>1109759
Jess seems the type therapy does not work on that convince themself and cling to it
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No. 1109830 ID: f1368b
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>As close to 50/50 as possible, no alimony
>Sell the townhouse
Keeping the property would be the better long term investment, but Henry doesn’t want to stay in a place that constantly reminds him of his failed marriage and Jess definitely can’t afford the mortgage on his sole income. Neither of them can afford simultaneous rent and mortgage, so they still might live together for a while before the sale goes through.

>Keep the car
Henry can technically take the bus to work, which he did on the days Jess needed the car for DnD, but driving is way faster and more convenient. That way they’ll split the cash $15K/$25K.

Jess emerges from the bathroom, fur shorn and makeup washed away. Apart from the small bump at the front of his t-shirt from his breasts, he looks like a classic teenage boy. Henry feels a flicker of nostalgia for their early dating days.

“Hey, here’s how I was thinking of splitting our finances.” Henry says.

Jess leans over his shoulder to read his spreadsheet, but doesn’t make contact. The distance between them is so small, he could just reach out–!

No, it’s over and he needs to find physical comfort elsewhere. He really misses sex.

“Looks good to me. I’ll be sad to see this place go, but it doesn’t make sense for either of us to live here alone.” Jess says.
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No. 1109831 ID: f1368b
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“And you’re okay living together until we get everything settled?”

“Oh yeah, no problem.” The fox stands up straight and windmills his arms to stretch. “I assume we’ll just keep doing what we’ve been doing. I’ll see when Sophie and Terrence’s leases are up and maybe try to move in with one of them.”

Ugh, they’re going to have to put a lot of furniture in storage, what a pain. Despite all the upcoming work, Henry feels more grounded with preparations to focus on. No more paralyzing limbo of misery, change is actually happening!

The wolf does not have an adequate relationship with his parents or Mahan to feel comfortable living with them. He is absolutely not risking his mental health on the random roommate lottery when he moves out.

A. Live by himself in an apartment
B. Rent a room in Victor’s house

Also,

1. Open the relationship now
2. Wait to start casual dating until they’re officially divorced
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No. 1109832 ID: 0db8d3

Lol is that Belinda's tinder profile?
You dog.

Yeah. A.
Only good things can come from A. Surely.

And yeah. After so many months in emotional limbo, who could blame you for craving a 'normal' relationship?
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No. 1109859 ID: 43a6fa

B2
At least until the dust settles and you can find a cozy place closer to work. Victor is the reliable sort but we shouldn't stick around long enough to strain it.
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No. 1109899 ID: 53b30a

A and 1. Probably best if you try living by yourself for now, also an open relationship till the divorce is official sounds goods as long as you both agree.
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No. 1109905 ID: debc82

>>1109831

Probably smartest to NOT open up the dating scene right away. Henry needs time to come to terms with his emotions AND process everything once he's got his own space to do it in.

As for where, well ... if Victor doesn't mind, it'd mean you're closer to all the stuff with -- wait, shit, now, Victor won't work because of Becca.

Maybe just an apartment ...?
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No. 1109914 ID: fd169b

B2 you should take a little break from relationships, but not completely isolate
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No. 1109928 ID: 92f7e7

A, 1

I think the solo apartment will provide the freedom necessary to be yourself, and find your own rhythm.

I agree that you shouldn't rush into a new romance, but I think it would be good to at least start exploring what life would be like apart from Jess; you don't have to be alone. In addition to that, you have needs, it makes sense to at least try to find some partners that will give them some satisfaction. Maybe look into local kink scenes or find some parties to go to.
That would allow you to play the field a bit without the sort of one-on-one intensity of a date.
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No. 1109935 ID: dd3a83

>>1109831
Feels like a mistake selling the house as it hits hard in Henrys life plans to start a family and it feels impossible to get a house like this again that we sell only beacuse Jess would be unable to own the house on there own
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No. 1109936 ID: dd3a83

>>1109831
>B
>1
Best of both worlds means we will have a social life and a potential romantical relationship and also our finances not being completely shafted by living in a apartment alone
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No. 1109980 ID: fe12b4

>>1109831
we're not here to be healthy we're here to be sloppy drama bitches, 1b bay-byyyyyyyy
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No. 1109982 ID: f1368b
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>A/B tie, default to A, live alone
Staying with Victor would save money, but Henry doesn’t want to impose on his friend. Who knows what awkwardness it might cause for Becca if she ever came over? Also, he likes the idea of having his own space to be miserable and horny without worrying that anyone else will see. He’s a grown wolf who wants to learn how to be himself again!

Moving is a ways away, but Henry will start searching for apartments near the hospital now.

>1, open the relationship
“Jess, I’ve been thinking about how we both want physical intimacy but we can’t get it from each other anymore. I don’t mind you dating other people before we’re legally divorced if you’re okay with me doing the same.”

The fox gives him a skeptical look. “Are you sure you wouldn’t mind? I’d be getting dick, like, tonight.”

“What? From where?”

“From the list of friends with benefits, old flames, and free loving queer people I have in my phone. Might have to put on some eyeliner and wear a skirt, but it wouldn’t be hard.”

Henry wrinkles his nose. He definitely does not have the same level of access to women for casual hookups, but Jess is free to be a slut if he wants to be. It’s not like Henry should care.

“Yeah, that’s fine.”
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No. 1109983 ID: f1368b
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“I think I want us opening the relationship in writing too.” Jess admits.

Henry punches in a text to Jess for electronic evidence. He’s starting to get kind of mad, which the fox notices, of course.

“I won’t bring anyone here and I won’t tell you what I’m doing, unless you ask.”

“Right.”

“Let me know if you need anything, I’m going downstairs now.” Jess backs out of the office and Henry hears him descend to the first floor.

Just another instance of Jess rubbing his lack of attachment in the wolf’s face. Well, Henry will show him–he’s going to get a hot date and have great sex!

How should Henry get laid? Prostitution and paying for sex are illegal in Massachusetts.
A. Online dating blitz
B. Start going to local munches and kink events (this will take time to pay dividends)
C. Other (suggest)
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No. 1110002 ID: d230d1

>>1109982
Okay.....so after all this time they just kept a list of all there fuck buddies and had enough of them to need a list in the first place and they are willing to infringe on the whole being a man thing for a quick fuck, had jess been in contact with them the whole time? Also have you ever had Jess or yourself checked for STDs
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No. 1110004 ID: d230d1

>>1109983
C) our hippo couples therapist she by just touching you gave you those tingles
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No. 1110005 ID: d230d1

>>1110004
Or just C) insane option just go after becca finally talk with her after all this
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No. 1110007 ID: de55ce

>>1109983
Maybe try looking for an actual girl? One that isn't a total freak who kept a literal list of fuckbuddies while she's married?
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No. 1110008 ID: de55ce

>>1110005
Becca would certainly be the best thing for Henry, but is she even willing to talk after all the shit Jess pulled?
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No. 1110011 ID: 10424e

Wow Jess is something else, he still had contacts ready to go even while married. Best not to think to hard about it, if you're looking to just get laid as soon as possible then you should try your luck and use C: A hookup app. Setting up a profile is easy and you're good looking enough to find some local matches.
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No. 1110018 ID: b71e93

>>1110005
Oooh, this one sounds potentially wholesome, but I've got an even crazier option.

>C, bang Jess as is now.

Was his distaste for masculinity absolute? Was his love for his partner not true? Was this drama really necessary?

Can't knock it off until you try. Face your fears, man. Face your feaaaars!!
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No. 1110019 ID: d30887

Henry is basically somewhere between 'well off financially' and 'socially eroding', a dangerous combination. In fact, I expect multiple political groups to take notice and try to get their hooks into a perfectly ripe disposable asset.
C) Hug Jess. Before it's too late to hug ever again.
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No. 1110023 ID: de55ce

>>1110019
Why the hell would you wanna do that literally just after finding out your wife literally had a booty call list on her pocket?
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No. 1110041 ID: 23183b

>>1109983
To Hell with Jess. He or she or whatever can choke on all those random dicks.
I say B. Online dating is a nightmare and Henry needs to distract himself physically as well as mentally.
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No. 1110045 ID: a98b03

Jess really had people ready to go huh, this should be another sign that divorce was the right choice.
C.At this point just go online and find a quick hookup,you need to show Jess up. No need for something serious right now.
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No. 1110046 ID: d230d1

>>1110011
>>1110045
Is that not just option A? Or it it A but less seriouse?
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No. 1110048 ID: d230d1

>>1110045
I can agree with this give him motivation to get off his ass without it endimg up in murder
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No. 1110050 ID: 0db8d3

Eh. Members of queer crowds generally have an easier time of finding hookups. Tis a benefit of being part of a sex-positive subculture.

I can see Jess's response being both polite *and* petty though, as opposed to just his typical flippancy.

C)- That's not to say you couldn't get in with a crowd of your own. There are "Slut" and "Kink" crowds around for people who really love sex and for people who enjoy kink like yourself- but getting into such groups takes a few weeks at a minimumb since you're a stranger. Plus they will have their own requirements and you'll have a bunch of people to meet.
... And finding them would be easiest if you have Jess help you with it.
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No. 1110057 ID: d230d1

>>1110050
Okay this is another fun idea that i can support Jess reactions will be interesting and it will be potentially very much easier for us
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No. 1110066 ID: 99a466

B

The quest for renewed physical intimacy should not be one of spite and anger, but of healing. You cannot "show" Jess—Jess won't care. It chafes that the breakup hurts more for one party than the other, but vengeance won't mend the hurt. You need to forge your own path, and find your own social circle.

I don't think that using Jess as an in for sex is a good idea. It's going to feel awkward at best, and more likely like salt in the wound, to be banging people who know you as "Jess' ex." Getting with Becca seems like a bad move, as well; we know that any intimacy with her would necessitate coming to Christ, and I don't think that's on the table. If the bridge to Becca is to be mended, then I think it would have to be platonically, and potentially with some grovelling. In time, maybe Victor of Mahan could set up or moderate a missive of apology, but I think that time isn't now.

Take it slow. Make new friends. Take time to heal. Rushing will only make things worse.
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No. 1110080 ID: f1368b
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1110080

>Jess had a booty call list ready to go?!
Yeah, it’s his phone contacts. Jess was pretty wild before they started dating exclusively, it figures he’d still know people he could hook up with. In fact, Henry’s pretty sure the fox and Sophie have fucked in the past, which is fine and cool and not something the wolf wants to think about.

That said, Jess’s blunt phrasing didn’t help Henry’s mood. The flippancy makes Henry feel competitive, like he has to show the world he can get laid too.

>STI testing
Neither of them have anything, they checked before they started doing it raw in the serious dating stage.

>Bang Jess
No. Henry would lose all respect for himself.

>Hug Jess
Henry doesn’t want to. Their loving, intimate relationship is over.

>Reconnect with Becca
While conceivably possible, it would take years of proving himself trustworthy for even a chance at redemption. Now’s not the time to start trying. Sadly, his and Jess’s actions as well as bad luck with how Becca reacted had lasting consequences.

>Maybe Belinda?
Naw, Henry knows from experience that it’s super awkward to have patients or clients hit on you.
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No. 1110081 ID: f1368b
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>B, take it slow
The fires of competition sputter and burn down to embers. Online dating sucks and will make him feel worse, even if he does get lucky enough to find someone to do the deed with tonight. He needs something honest and genuine, which means it’ll take time.

Henry logs onto his rusty FetLife account and marks his calendar for the soonest and most convenient munch. He’ll meet some like-minded people and it’ll give him time to process the divorce. He’s still empty and sad right now, though. God, he’s so alone.

A. Go see Mahan
B. Go see Victor
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No. 1110082 ID: f2320a

>>1110081
B. Go see Victor
i had it up to the toss of a coin but also potential of renting with him. or we visit mahan as he was one of the few people to Believe in you and comfort you.
think positively Jess cant drive out to bang if you take the car to visit someone as they promised not to bring anyone home....if its not another thing they lied about
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No. 1110086 ID: debc82

>>1110081

Let's go talk to Victor, since he's probably better at handling volatile emotions.

Also, maybe look into some sex-toys online. Could help take the edge off, so to speak.
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No. 1110099 ID: fd169b

B) Victor seems like the most level headed
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No. 1110101 ID: 0db8d3

A) Victor might be the most level headed Adult-In-the-room of your friends, but you know *exactly* how a trip to Mahan's will go.

First he'll say some ignorant bullshit, then he'll go be awesome and before you know it you'll be all cheered up!

Oh. And drunk. You'll be very drunk. Functional alcoholic friends are the best sometimes.
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No. 1110210 ID: 7dd8c8

>>1110086
Switched to A. Go see Mahan
Will more likely change our trajectory
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No. 1110216 ID: 19ea25

A: Sometimes you need a very different opinion on things.
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No. 1110285 ID: f2320a

perhaps all we needed to do is engage to the original concept of the quest due to Jess fetish? the Chasity play sort of thing was the breaking point something about it not being painful and pleasurable to balance out just the annoyance would sexism and misandry make her happy while also making Henry happy?
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No. 1110314 ID: 0db8d3

>>1110285
Your words intrigue me but a cannot understand your verbage.
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No. 1110333 ID: ec536d

>>1110314
What if we sexually satisfied our soon to be former wife by acting like a asshole? Satisfy there sado masochism it started with us not sexually satisfying them due to them being a non-communicative slightly mentally ill nympho who can dish out abstinance but not deal with it due to there competative spirit so what if henry put his foot down and made demands?
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No. 1110335 ID: fe12b4

>>1110333
We're kinda past that point lol
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No. 1110336 ID: 0db8d3

>>1110333
That's not a bad idea in theory.

In practice, now that divorce has been decided on were up against Henry's ego. It would be a huge hit to his pride to sleep with Jess again and no amount assholery would make up for it.
Well. Almost no amount. Henry could rape Jess to overcome that barrier, but he's not in a position to do that either. He still loves and respects the fox. He's actively mourning his relationship right now. If anything this decision was premature, but he'll never admit that, not on his own.
Since the relationship was founded on a lie he's more than justified to seek a divorce, but things weren't actively bad or toxic, Henry was making himself miserable. Put another way, while the divorce is justified by a lack of trust, it was initiated by Henry's own Lack of control. Thus, any action Henry takes must give him a net positive to his own feeling of being in control. Taking advantage of Jess in a sexual way would indeed make him feel more in control, but that would be totally overshadowed by the fact that he would have to back down from his prior decisions and sleep with the fox in the first place, and that's not even getting into the fact that it would be internally humiliating given the fact that he's apparently can get 'all the dick' while Henry would be seeing himself as being forced to "crawl back".
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No. 1110338 ID: ec536d

>>1110336
Would not the get 'all the dick' get neutralized by Henry taking away the desicion from Jess, thus also making a desicion of his own instead of running along with what Jess says that its fine while shrugging like jess said themself “If you want me to act purely based on my desires and not because of what I think is best for us, I’ll transition and we can get a divorce.” wording it like its only Henrys choice what if we do what Jess Said and "act purely based on my desires" can spin it as henry acting on Henrys own choice instead of Jess apathetic cool collected choice. Perhaps spin it as we are not fucking Jess we are fucking Jess"ica" or something but it seems like the only choice that would somehow make both happy without henry becoming suicidal while also keeping Jess happy in some kinky way before like in past beforr the breaking point of no sex way as being to soft and gentle triggered it.

Feels like its a perfect mental fit if we can somehow spin the 'crawling' as spinning the "my choice" into "it has been 'HER' choice" as henry just need to look back at Jess wording at each pivotal point realizing she always left it as a question to henry either realizing he could have done what he wanted all along or realize he never really made a choice either as a yes or a No just neutral like the anger sex just did what Jess wanted out of it without staking a claim or putting conditions on it, like can he commit to holding Jess responsible or something? Jess can be masterfully manipulative but also clearly obviously mentally like a child in picking up on social cues or limits sometimes when Jess opens up so Henry Needs if not outright Must clearly state these things, things why i think it will work is that when its formated like a "quest" a goal a task like with Becca was one of the rare moments Jess felt something clearly like guilt and bad we need to treat Jess like the Neurogivergent person he is figure out the buttons and levers as we have been using the buttons and levers of a neurotypical person?

I feel like a PR person trying to spin it in many potential perspectives but its just logically formulated solution that is "Fuck it we Ball" or "Grug smash" as being a asshole setting the bountries and holding someone 'responsible' would ironically work on Jess when it would not really work on anyone else, like just look at the reactions when setting up a clear goal and task and figuring out Jess expresses in diffrent ways
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No. 1110339 ID: ec536d

>>1110338
Thoughts like even without the original gameplay system Jess and Henry are fundimentally the same people the same character notes and skeleton same motivations and desires just without labeled controls like we jumped in without a tutorial no hints with no HUD activated ,as can be seen in Jess mentality with clarity and Henrys mental breaking points that would naturally set things in motion looking at them as real people its like we as players forgot a layer of reality like we did not know what genre of game or movie we are like real people born into it
blind, simply to say masterful writing it does not feel like a singular god is controlling everything just people playing of other people
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No. 1110342 ID: f2320a

>>1110336
any ideas how to make it work other then the Yolo method? but perhaps its just what needs to be done thats also interesting keeps the story alive and moving but also make qm happy and the horny crowd pleased? dont really want the quest to end been my favorite since it started. Alot what we have done for problem solving has perhaps been the definition of insanity of repetition where we are more concerned with the appearance of goodness and less the results.

also just want to do it as something that seems interesting.
we have alot of timeskips so i am unsure if we will ever have the chance if we dont implement it pretty much now, if we dont want to lose the chance to ever do it and we end up in a ending similar to "snoot game, bad end"
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No. 1110345 ID: 372abb

>>1110338
Ok I can see your spin. Henry might too, But it'll require *alcohol*. He's definitely the sort of person who could become a "cry bully" given the right circumstances- sadly with the divorce those circumstances may never happen- but the mental framework is all there. Perhaps Mahan's really is the best choice for this path then- if we can get Henry sloshed enough to overcome the initial wall, I can definitely see him spiraling down your proposed mental rabbit hole.

As for Jess, interestingly Henry doesn't really understand him much at all. He probably doesn't even know what made Jess this way. Jess is a particular flavor of sociopath, the sort of which is created when a child is forced to become emotionally overwhelmed repeatedly without relief or support. Jess probably learned to "compartmentalize" emotions from a young age, which is basically an off switch for feelings. People who gain this coping mechanism early often never learn to process their emotions because it's so much easier to just avoid them. This avoidant behavior is why Jess lied in the first place, why Jess seems so flippant, and why Jess has been so passive throughout the marriage. The problem is that the emotions that are filed away don't disappear. Jess has an entire unprocessed broken heart in there and has been punished repeatedly for "doing the right thing" by being vulnerable once and coming clean. Henry is destroying Jess silently and neither of them know it, Jess is an enormous ticking time bomb. The conversation thing with Becca was just the beginning, the first evidence of the fraying edges.

I realize that part about Jess is more or less a tangent, just take it to mean that this story has interesting places to go still no matter what Henry does.
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No. 1110361 ID: 23cf5d

>>1110338
Another question would be, why?
Why bother going through therapy and not following through with decisions, why trying to woo Jess who basically isn't Henry's wife nor husband anymore, and why do something for instant gratification that'll just bite back twice as much later on.
And especially, why give Jess what he wants, he will never grow from this relationship nor learn what he has to lose if he can just get it back as soon as he breaks it.
What's, the point? Ego? Ego can be rebuilt.
With yourself, with other people, with things you love.
But embracing a toxic relationship? That's forever.
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No. 1110366 ID: f1368b
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>A
Henry has a pretty good grasp of Mahan’s work schedule after multiple years of friendship and gives the pika a call to confirm he can come over.

He doesn’t say bye to Jess when he takes the car, not that he thinks lack of transportation will stop the fox from getting laid. He alternates between tearing up and feeling empty as he shops for a twelve pack of various local lagers and a frozen pizza as a peace offering on the way to Mahan’s small apartment on the cheaper side of town.

Mahan answers the first knock and ushers Henry inside. For a functional alcoholic and grumpy bachelor, the pika’s barren abode could be worse. At least it’s reasonably clean, but there’s a reason they usually meet at Victor’s place.

Mahan fiddles with his crusty oven and slides the pizza inside to bake before popping the tab on a beer with a crisp snap.

“So what’s botherin’ ya?” he asks, as he settles on the small loveseat in front of the TV. Henry hesitates before sitting down next to him. Between Mahan’s stockiness and Henry’s size, their thighs are snug against each other.

“I decided today that Jess and I are getting a divorce.”

“Shit, you wanted it? I thought you were head over heels for her.”

“I told you before, Jess is a man and I don’t want to–to keep him from transitioning anymore.”

Mahan muffles a burp and gives Henry a pat on the back. “I wouldn’t want to be married to a tranny either. Saw her friends at that party you had a while back, guess they made her take it too far. Not your fault.”
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No. 1110367 ID: f1368b
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Henry can’t say he’s surprised by Mahan’s response, but it still makes him sigh and take a long drink of his own beer. “I don’t know what to do with myself–I’m still kind of attracted to Jess, I guess, even when he has a haircut and wears baggy clothes. I feel like I’ve made a stupid choice, but I don’t know what else I could have done. I’ve been drowning in indecision for ages because Jess was always happy to follow my lead. I knew what I really wanted and I hated myself for it.”

“If she was making you unhappy, it ain’t worth it. Yer young, handsome, got a good job, you’ll find a nice new lady.” Mahan leans back against the cushions. “It hurts though, hurts like a bitch.”

“Yeah.”

“Don’t cut off your finger for the next one, hope you learned your lesson.”

Henry punches Mahan lightly in the side. The blunt words do put things in perspective, and he’s glad the pika doesn’t mind being up close like this, it helps with the touch starvation.

A. Drink a lot (he’ll Uber home)
B. Stop at a single beer
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No. 1110368 ID: 99a466

A

Getting drunk is protocol for a break-up pity party.
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No. 1110370 ID: f2320a

>>1110361
Another question would be, why?
>"Why bother going through therapy and not following through with decisions"
part because the therapy was sort of shit with her not digging any deeper and following through has been henrys issue so far is true he does not push through pain or actually try and solve issues

"why trying to woo Jess who basically isn't Henry's wife nor husband anymore, and why do something for instant gratification that'll just bite back twice as much later on."
the instant gratification is not the main point henry has been stopping and starting on staking the claim or what ever just giving Jess what they want without Henry going far enough to get what he wants, but ironically with jess dressing like a man was literally the jess he fell in love with
"And especially, why give Jess what he wants, he will never grow from this relationship nor learn what he has to lose if he can just get it back as soon as he breaks it." like the promises he did not actually hold jess responsible for jess is in some ways ironically also been like a doormat wording it as being just Henrys choice all the time, but our issue is that we have been trying to treat Jess like a normal person we have been pressing at the completely wrong levers and buttons
>"What's, the point? Ego? Ego can be rebuilt."
nothing about rebuilding ego beacuse what ego does he have left beyond pushing people away from him beacuse it would just be too awkaward for Becca or for him to be around them so he choses to live in a apartment alone and spend more money when he is in a hard spot just his new isolated brooding man cave
"With yourself, with other people, with things you love." he does not have himself and barely other people or anyone he loves and he is a coward he has not had the power to push through adversity like Becca at the door or Jess breaking the promise without even really any back talk,
"But embracing a toxic relationship? That's forever." possibly but we never actually gone after the actual issues with Jess or henry we where always more concerned about how good it looked instead of results.
also i just want this quest to continue as after this the quest just ends after some timeskip epilouge and i want to engage with the quests original premise that things have been operating on in the background
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No. 1110372 ID: d30887

I think there's more going on in your city than you think. The people around you are weird and dysfunctional, but they're 'sampled' from a diverse demographic of social, economic, and religious classes. Think back to strangers you've met across the past five years; how 'okay' were they, to you?

Maybe it's childish to blame some all-powerful system for your own personal issues. But it doesn't stop the fact that you've been pushed to treat all your problems on an individual scale. Like, seriously.

B) If you don't have a friend willing to carpool you as a backup, don't risk yourself. You can't just trust a single means of transportation.
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No. 1110373 ID: 8af5a6

>>1110367
B for Better not get drunk and do something stupid
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No. 1110374 ID: f2320a

>>1110367
A. Drink a lot (he’ll Uber home)

lets remove the inhibitions and actually do what he desires (and probably Jess due to how there fetishes are) instead of being concerned about political movements, how good it looks instead of results, lets actually do the decision his heart and body aches for lets fully use the " NSFW, contains BDSM and casual bigotry" tag because this is probably the last chance simply to say lets be "fuck it we ball"

because like the fucked thing is Jess was fine dressing, living and being refereed to as a woman just because of henrys parents and friends and henrys confusion around it because it made the choice pointless in the first place there was no more freak out about due to balance of desires or something.
or something as this is the last grasping at straws it feels like as we have let time skips slip through our hands a bit to hard, and i am just saying stuff to try and see what works as this seems like the only solution left because the other things have been half tried
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No. 1110375 ID: ec536d

>>1110368
Thats true
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No. 1110376 ID: ec536d

>>1110367

A. Drink a lot (he’ll Uber home)
All thats left at this poin, it's tradition an if we dont drink what would the fucking point be of even visiting him? Like leaving a dinner party before dinner
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No. 1110383 ID: 19ea25

A: Fuck it. It's time to just go into the bottle with a friend. Talk shit.
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No. 1110440 ID: b71e93

I have my doubts I'm choosing right, but..

A)

Let's not forget to tell Mahan that none of Jess' friends were really pushy about transition, far as you know. They had their own reasons for being trans, and Jess others.
As the talking and the drinking continues this segues into how Jess seemed to associate masculinity with viscerality, which segues into Henry and Jess' wierd kinks, which segues on how Mahan can't go to Heaven because hhis divorszed, so his gonna be Jess' wife forver in hell, haha, which segues into revealing the truth about...the finger!

>>1110374
Or this. This might happen. But it's too feelgood so it probably won't.
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No. 1110455 ID: 0b503b

>>1110440
Yeah its weird its feels good ending of this situation but its only feels good and not grimdark due to Jess kinks like her peak living is a "darkend" fetish fanfic
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No. 1110456 ID: 0b503b

>>1110440
He seems to know about the finger cutting atleast and not the finger being eaten
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No. 1110457 ID: f1368b
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>A
Henry decided to visit Mahan over Victor because he wanted to get drunk and commiserate, it’d be a waste of a good pity session to stay sober. The wolf finishes his first beer with a long gulp and cracks open his second.

They talk shit about work and Henry finishes his fourth beer before the pizza is ready. He wobbles when he gets up to piss. This is the most booze he’s had since college, he’s usually a modest social drinker.

Mahan has the pizza served on paper plates when he emerges, and Henry takes a big bite of hot cheesy goodness.

“Y’know, stupid thing is Jess would have been okay with staying a woman if I went along with it.” he mumbles. “I couldn’t, though.”

“Why the hell not?”

“‘Cause–’cause it’s wrong to deny someone what they really want. Jess wants to be a man.”

Mahan gives him a skeptical look. “She wanted you to take charge and set her straight, sounds like.”

Memories of Jess under him, whining and eager, surface in his brain. Henry crosses his legs self-consciously.

“Well, yeah, she–I mean he does like that sort of thing, but for sex, not for, for everything. I dunno. Feels wrong to try to change him.”

“Not changin’ her, showin’ her what’s right for both of you.”

Henry wrinkles his nose. “You and Victor were the ones telling me not to do anything fucked up.”

“I was talkin’ bout your damn finger. Nobody should be cuttin’ anything off.” Mahan grumbles. “Difference between gettin’ real hurt and pleasing your freak wife. Spank her or something.”

An idea begins to swirl in Henry’s head. He could go home–wait for Jess if he isn’t there, and…and…change both of their minds about this divorce thing. Nothing’s final yet.
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No. 1110458 ID: f1368b
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1110458

“Maybe you’re right.” Henry polishes off his slice and reaches for another.

With the alcohol suppressing his well-honed guilt response, it’s not a half-bad plan. Jess will like it, since she’s always so eager…

He slaps Mahan on the back before he gets a ride home an hour later, feeling hot and confident.

>Jess at home check: Failure
The fox isn’t there when Henry gets home, which makes rage boil in his stomach, especially stomach he doesn’t know when Jess is coming back or who the fox might be fucking. He can’t drive, so he can’t go pick her up. Nothing to do but wait.

Doubt creeps in as Henry starts to sober up, making his fur prickle and skin crawl. He clutches at his chest as he waits on the sofa. He’s pathetic and it hurts and he’s all alone.

The front door opens around 9pm and Jess comes in whistling. “Hi Henry, didn’t think you were home. Where’s the car?”

The wolf lurches to his feet. “I drank at Mahan’s so I didn’t drive myself back. Jess–”

He hurries to embrace the fox, growls at the smell of a stranger on her fur.

“Hey, hey, what’s going on?” Jess laughs. “You must be pretty drunk, c’mon, go get a glass of water and lie down.”

Henry doesn’t move. “I can make this right, I can love you like I should, Jess, and you can stay a woman and we can be happy.”

Jess sighs. “Sober Henry wants a divorce, honey. I don’t want you beating yourself up tomorrow, go sit down.”

“But that’s not what you really want, is it? You want me, I want you, let’s make up.”

“Actually,” Jess’s voice goes cold and stern. “I want you to let go of me and sit the fuck down.”

A. Push her (long-term consequences)
B. Obey (divorce will continue as planned)
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No. 1110459 ID: 90bde2

B
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No. 1110460 ID: debc82

>>1110458

B, but kinda A:

Sit down. Let Jess get you a glass of water. Explain that maybe, just maybe you could be happy with boy-pussy (does that make you bi?) and try not to break down in a blubbery, booze-fueled mess as you just let everything out (since the therapy session didn't give space for it).

Drunk Henry wants Jess. And maybe Drunk Henry can look past the whole ideal chubby tradwife thing (at least until the beers wear off).
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No. 1110462 ID: 1e0def

>>1110458
This is just him being drunk and forgetting all the shit jess sprung on him. Better not try to fuck it up.
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No. 1110464 ID: 60dd6a

B
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No. 1110466 ID: 16dcc7

B
Future you is going to suffer if you don't quit now. Drink the damn Pedialyte
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No. 1110467 ID: 88653e

>>1110458

A. Push her (long-term consequences)

Okay consequences sounds negative but thats basically just long term effects of making a decision like all the other shit we have done that Messed up everything.
Its a Unknown but the other one is Outright the Divorce continues and its over.
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No. 1110468 ID: f2320a

>>1110458
So its Certain Failure as stated with divorce continuing or diving into the chance for anything at all to change no standing at the door being afraid to reach out beacuse it feels awkward, not just sitting there with the shock collar, no questions worded as if its your own idea and does not henry already hate himself for feeling like he caused the divorce.
Drunk Henry is just Honest Henry saying what he wants when feeling like Jess
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No. 1110469 ID: f2320a

>>1110468
A. Push her (long-term consequences)
I want the quest to continue lets fulfill Jess Sexual fantasy or just die
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No. 1110470 ID: f2320a

>>1110469
Like getting married was a long term consiquence the chasity play lead to long term consequences what left for us but to cry again standimg outside our soon to not be home before tucking into bed, so lets make this interesting for the qm
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No. 1110472 ID: 53b30a

B.just stop and listen, your going through a divorce right now, and the thing you shouldn't be doing is fucking anything up by going to jail and losing everything from friends, your job, and you're on sanity. Just listen to them and go to sleep.
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No. 1110478 ID: d30887

This is starting to get rapey.

B) But make sure you tell Jess that you wish you could love each other. It's what you've want more than anything else.
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No. 1110479 ID: f2320a

>>1110478
Yeah probably based on Jess fetishes like the shockcollar,the hate sex,burglar rape role play ect. But if this is the direction and not "When push comes to shove" like at every other critical moment should we just drunkenly ask "Why do you not love me" or something similar
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No. 1110486 ID: 0db8d3

Lol I like how fucked this is because it shows how little either of them fucking get eachother in such a simple interaction.

A) Push. It may be foolhardy, and whatever comes may be messy but if the alternative is guaranteed fail than what do we have to lose?
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No. 1110487 ID: 5b56d8

>>1110486
Its infuriating right, beacuse the voters seem to not either understand Jess at all either, if not worse being more concerned about looking moral, to the point i think the qm is feed up, as they have planned to end this in the discussion thread beacuse people initiated divorces that seems to be the endgame condition for timeskip to epilouge after a few updates.
We have all been just never shoved when it mattered, been a mess a interesting mess that makes for a good quest even with voters doing the opposite to what is known.
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No. 1110488 ID: 5b56d8

>>1110458
A. Push her "do you hate me, was i never enough, i never wanted a divorce" time to go wild and fulfill Jess fantasies to finally push to decide what Henry potentially wanted for her breaking her words without being held to it
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No. 1110491 ID: 0db8d3

>>1110487
Yeah but alas. It's a nuanced quest with nuanced concerns and nuanced characters, but nuance doesn't take well to democracy.

It's easy to just take Henry's side because of the simple justification and easy to suggest the simple solution of just ending it because of that.
I can't fault people for not reading deeper into things, even given our direct line of sight into the characters heads.

What is infuriating for me is the "Do you wanna play D&D or not?" problem. The current trajectory of suggestions is likely going to see the quest ended... unsatisfactorily. We've invested a lot into these characters, gotten to know them well, and to just end it like this feels bad. Like sure not every story needs a happy ending, and I'm not even saying that divorce is a bad plotline. It's just a bad plotline for a quest and I can see why Tippler would end it here. This would be fantastic for like, a TV show or something.

As for the lack of pushback... I have difficulty being upset about that from a meta perspective. Yeah it feels like suggesters are wearing kid-gloves often, but it's kinda on-brand for the characters isn't it? They both suck at communication in general. Henry's usually so deep inside his own head that he can't be bothered to talk or fight with Jess, he knows everything he needs from his own assumptions. Jess meanwhile- while not incapable- is bad at empathy and usually more concerned about things becoming "annoying" and so avoids conflict- resulting in a very passive demeanor.

That said, It is rather annoying to me that things were allowed to get this far without any real fights. Lots of crying and moping, a few more or less tame arguments, a few remarks here or there. But no actual fights. No true impasses between two people. It feels almost like they're getting the divorce to avoid fighting or hell, just talking. Which. Like. Just why? You know?
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No. 1110492 ID: 5b56d8

>>1110491
The irony is literally fighting would have fixed this and it only works beacuse they are both mentally ill, have hard sex speak honestly and "Force" Jess as he goes with basically anything henry says it would just be roleplay where they are open about there feelings. Hate sex was on the right track but only did the part that rewarded Jess just physical instead of verbal, all this started beacuse we could not keep her satisfied beacuse she said nothing about something she can dish out but not handle due to a misplaced sense of competition, can have something to do with her mental focus of masculinity being power and the viceral ability cause harm perhaps trying to prove herself "as a man" like the song "anything you can do i can do better" to prove that he is just as good as henry if not better we managed to satify Jess by keeping him happy but perhaps just rewarding the behaviour sort of like how a dog can only accociate a reward or punishment with whats happening in that exact moment? He decided he was a man outloud to henry but nothing changed in his living dressing or manners making a scene that only caused Henry as that sort of went back on there vowes to eachother just making Henry spiral.
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No. 1110493 ID: f2320a

>>1110491
Its just been Henrys mental breakdowns and spiral for the most part if anything physical pushback but not verbal, and what would it be called pathology of feelings of awkwardness over helping or doing things he is very avoidant..... sort of made me wonder how would it have been if there sex was flipped? As people where keen on Jess dominating henry about demasculinating him i think was a slight push for pegging and such things early on? Dominitrix is it beacuse people ironically dont actually mentally follow Jess sexual identity and it can mostly only go in one direction as the you cant punch girls social expectation, like if Jess was a man who is eating the flesh of his Bride Henry would have a way diffrent connotation and people would be much more keen to have the girl punch her "abuser" when they both abuse eachother
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No. 1110494 ID: f2320a

>>1110493
Henry he is very Demure or what ever people say like he unironically fits the girls he has a fetish for he can be very meek or avoidant fretting over things, jess is interesting as why he was attracted to Henry where things that are sort of the opposite to his actual fetishes?
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No. 1110495 ID: 754f71

Just end this shit man. Why are we even doing this?

It hasn't been working for a long time and you two aren't compatible. You lost your second chances a long time ago. Blaming him for fucking up the thing with Becca when he genuinely tried being one such example, one fucking conversation with the couples therapist being another. You two could never just talk to each other genuinely, and you're not gonna be able to start now when you're a fucking drunk wreck. All you're gonna end up doing is just destroying yourself more if you decide to push here.
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No. 1110496 ID: fe12b4

I am voting A, because you are cowards that hate drama and I'll be damned if this quest ends with either of them in a better place.
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No. 1110497 ID: f2320a

>>1110496
Its 5 or 6 for B) give up depends how it gets read with that combo voter and and 5 for A) Henry being pushed to the limit emotional and mental limit instead of just breaking down as he did for the house warming party.
Welcome to the club of non avoidence and pivotal dramatic moment, like it can be good or bad but its something atleast instead of the fizzle so how long have you been reading this?
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No. 1110498 ID: 0db8d3

>>1110492
What I don't get about that scene where Jess came out about the lie was like... It didn't finish in a logical way. One would think that such a huge bomb would also involve a serious conversation about reevaluating where everything stands between the two. You know, how this affects the future 'n stuff. Instead Henry freaked out, started assuming stuff rebuffed us when we suggested it, and just assumed the worst. Meanwhile Jess just then accepted that as the new status-quot, even though the job was left obviously unfinished and the state of things was clearly just as annoying as they previously were because of it. Mentally ill or not it's like they're allergic to communication.
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No. 1110499 ID: f2320a

>>1110498
Yeah the outburst what did Jess want to accomplice he continued living as a she so it was just poof there so many things that where "if you think so" would it not have been so easy to assert oneself like the weight gain stuff i expected it to end up Jess being annoyed but instead puts a condition on Henry like gym training so its equal or something, Jess is a person who pushes but perhaps the hate sex statsfied him? Made him not push further? Part why it became just the new normal?
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No. 1110500 ID: 0db8d3

>>1110499
Issue there would be that Jess would have to keep up the lie if he simply asserted himself about the weight gain thing, and if things were already becoming annoying this early on things would almost certainly become untenable later. Ripping off the bandaid early could have been a smart move, especially since the only things Jess really wanted to change at the time was the lack of sex and the forced feeding. It didn't mean Jess was going back on all the plans he made with Henry. But that's how Henry took it, and Jess for whatever reason, just ran with that instead of correcting him. Eventually time passed and both assumed this was just how things were now. When Jess *Did* try to set things more straight, enough time had passed that it was like telling Henry the sky is Polka-dot red or something.
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No. 1110501 ID: 99a466

A

It would be nice to do A while sober, especially seeing as Jess has just come back from a long night whose stated intention was hot sex. More at this point might be pushing it even harder than usual. But I think that a bit of drama might be in order, yeah, whether it results in a twist make-up or a blazing fireball.
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No. 1110510 ID: fd169b

A) They're trying to manipulate you into what they think is for you own good, again. Show em you can be a strong man.

Also your still drunk right? hahah yeah your sitl drunk
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No. 1110528 ID: 53b30a

I can't tell if "Push her" means physically shoving them or keeping pushing the subject.
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No. 1110529 ID: 6d5273

B
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No. 1110537 ID: f2320a

>>1110528
Could be both with shoving Jess to the soffa and pushing this conversation but seems more a situation where we dont let go
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No. 1110538 ID: a2114e

>>1110458
B for now, A once you're sober.
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No. 1110539 ID: f2320a

>>1110538
being sober has really not worked for us so far sober Henry is too much of a coward to be honest with his feelings is one of the issues and delaying has not worked for us at all because then we just run into the timeskip beacuse we are working with a limited amount of updates here
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No. 1110546 ID: b71e93

Man, it's a really long time since a quest caused as much discussion as this, I'm glad tippler got the plot side of the story so developed!

Truth is, the game was rigged from the start. This was meant

>>1110528
It's the mystery box choice!
The only thing guaranteed to be in it is pain.

>>1110496
HEY!

........It's also to blueball the torture fetishists.

But fine, let's make it interesting.

A.

To quote the old soap opera cry: "Throw her down the stairs! Thow her down the stairs!"
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No. 1110567 ID: f1368b
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>B
Henry abruptly lets go like the fox burned him. He would never force Jess into sex–no–that would be awful and he’d probably wake up the next day without his balls. He’s not that drunk anymore, what the fuck was he thinking?

“Sorry, I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have grabbed you.” he stammers.

“I offered to stay as your wife before, when this all first came out. I meant it then, but recently I don’t think I trust you enough anymore.” Jess rubs his head. “It doesn’t feel like you have my back, y’know? I’m not interested.”

“T-That’s okay, I’m really sorry for making you uncomfortable.”

“It’s fine.” Jess sounds brittle. “You would have stopped if I safeworded.”

Henry retreats to the kitchen, where he fills a glass with water from the sink. His hands are trembling.

Jess pads in to join him. “We’re going to be okay, okay? We’ll take it one day at a time.”

“It hurts. It feels like I’m dying.” Henry grips his chest over his heart. “I feel so stupid. It’s like I lost you for no reason.”

“I think the divorce is going to be better for both of us in the long run. I’m sorry for lying, that’s what really drove us apart.” Jess rinses his cup and goes into the living room to prepare the couch.

Henry doesn’t think there’s anything he could say or do to make Jess change his mind. He takes some water up to the bedroom, showers, and goes to sleep.
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No. 1110568 ID: f1368b
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1110568

>2 months after the divorce
Jess bustles into the party venue at a quarter past 9 pm, stomps his boots on the entry mat to dislodge any loose spring slush, and hangs his jacket to join the assembly of damp coats on the packed racks in the foyer. A random refurbished industrial building isn’t nearly as cozy as someone’s house, but Jess isn’t picky. The hosts have enough trouble finding a place willing to host a hundred kinksters every quarter.

His companion for the evening follows holding the duffle bag of supplies–soft hemp rope, paddles, a knife or two–everything Jess might need for a night of casual, public fun.

Who came with Jess?
A. Terrence (there to socialize)
B. Sophie (there to play)
C. Other (suggest one of Jess’s old flames)
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No. 1110570 ID: f2320a

Awww damn it.... it seems it was a tie but two of the B options where A on the second step.... shit this is so fucking depressing always when it mattered the most people stepped in to be a disappointment when they did not care earlier being allergic to drama
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No. 1110571 ID: f2320a

>>1110570
The long term consequences still came even in cowardice, in inaction, in the repeated lack of push when it matters the most and there did come a actual fucking timeskip like i worried.
>“It’s fine.” Jess sounds brittle. “You would have stopped if I safeworded.”
But also perhaps its not jess who feels unsafe but henry the most like the ball cutting thing from the comments i read was Henrys own completely original idea.

perhaps A was right with the safe word the spark to reignite doing the action then the potential of Jess calling the safeword then us voting on it.
All thats left is have we considered murder?
And its so depressing it seems like it ended up being a tie with the second of two half options that are first B leaning yowards option A that would break the tie this feels so fucking devastating, A legitimate suprise and shock where everything is and was meaningless perhaps its one of those where it just says the vote has ended and update is being made it feels like i fucked up by not doing something like cheating.
>>1110546
Thanks for voting and trying would have been the tipping point of the story if you where earlier i saw your vote and had such high hopes then scrolling down.... just stop and dull buzz in the body as it was exactly what i feared.
Hehe... so perhaps its time we do that early fetish someone suggested with shaving for the "Skinnies" fetishists with oils and smooth skin against smooth skin on both normally furred mammals a full body buzzcut
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No. 1110573 ID: cb76eb

A
Lets make some connections.
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No. 1110574 ID: 13b07a

>>1110568
Henry, but he's disguised as someone else quite convincingly (do not upvote this)
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No. 1110580 ID: f2320a

>>1110574
>upvote this +1
Perhaps there is seomething left
Will probably make a new vote later.
Anyone feel like creating the worst person possible?
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No. 1110593 ID: f60bb7

Okay where is everyone now after the push or no push vote?
No ideas brewing on characters?
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No. 1110594 ID: 0db8d3

B

>>1110593
Eh. This seems more or less like an epilogue. Interesting effects on Jess from the marriage probably wouldn't manifest until considerably later than two months- maybe two years? Depends on a lot of things. Jess should be fine at least for a while, until he tries something serious again, or until a long term stressful+social situation arises.
Things either need time to marinate, or something needs to happen that resonates.
Unless op changes his mind though, such avenues are unlikely to be explored.

As for Henry, kinda depends on whether or not he continues to get therapy and/or gets a girlfriend. He's in a position to either grow from this or find himself in a deep morass of depression. He can stave off the latter if he can find someone to stem the loneliness, but without help managing his chaotic internal dialogue who knows where he'll end up. Alternatively he could get both a girlfriend and a hobby. In that case he'll be aight and more or less stay the same as he is now, for better or worse.
I think there's also a world where he processes things successfully on his own, gets his previous self-confidence back, finds himself dissatisfied with multiple girlfriends, and then goes and attempts some sort of "Grand Gesture" in order to get Jess back.
Again though, probably all speculation we'll never see.
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No. 1110597 ID: b71e93

For the first time, I'm tied between 3 choices: Terrence, because we never really spent much time with the terrific transmasc terrier; Henry in disguise, because it's just to good; or...

Alisa Plane the flatworm!

She's the nerdy gal that Jess got all her geeky knowledge and tastes from, or most of them, anyway.
She became friends with Jess during late highschool and even dated for a spell, but they cut the relationship because Alisa didn't like dishing out punishment and Jess didn't like the robot cosplays and surprise trivia nights.
She is a pretty sweet gal if you can get past the nasal laughter, the hard glasses, the stubby limbs, the constant pop and obscure references and how you could swear she wears braces (dental plaaaaan *snort*) if it wasn't for the fact she doesn't have teeth.

She hates:
Wide open spaces.
Physical excercise. And most non-nerdy mental excercise.
"Guess you did love her as a worm, after all" remarks.

She likes:
Science fiction themed mugs.
Being pummeled in bed, preferably with a pipe while making robot noises.
Pummeling people who make love-me-as-a-worm remarks.

She is here to catch up with Jess, meet new people, and see if the nacho fountain in the brochure lives up to expectations.
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No. 1110598 ID: 23183b

We're supposed to hate Jess, right? Jess is a sociopathic manipulator and an actual cannibal, so we're not supposed to like Jess, right?
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No. 1110599 ID: f2320a

>>1110597
okay that is a good character also interesting with Henry in disguise for potential for drama or him just being here because its the dating scene he entered due to a cross booking with the as he called it "munch" i think, but him dreading the potential of anyone being here like jess and making them uncomfortable or he is trying to liven up somehow
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No. 1110602 ID: f2320a

>>1110599
feels like a character that potentially can get along with Henry even date and as a flatworm she probably has no bones and is all soft?
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No. 1110604 ID: 0db8d3

>>1110598
Sociopath? Yes.
Cannibal? Like, that one time but it's not like it was his idea.
Manipulative? Can be, mostly as a coping mechanism.

All that said, He's has been pretty "good" throughout the quest, to the point of his own detriment, actually.

Jess was in no way a perfect partner, but he managed to avoid doing most of the shit headed things that tend to give sociopaths a bag name. There's nothing *inherently* wrong in a moral sense with being a sociopath.

And while yeah, Jess committed the original sin of the lie in the marriage, Henry was responsible for most of his own suffering.

So no, we're not "supposed" to hate Jess. You can if you want, though.
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No. 1110608 ID: d30887

>>1110598
Thing is, I'd rather hate the people who have been stringing the whole city. Jess was molded into what she is and she has no idea. Becca is going down a dark path entranced by a heavenly light.

And while the cast bickers and divorces each other, whatever caused them to be like this is laughing its butt off.

B
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No. 1110613 ID: 53b30a

C. one of Jess’s old flames
Name: Emiliano Fernandez
Species:Bull
He's a tall muscular male bull, he's originally from spain, he moved to the usa to finish his studies, he met Jess in college and they became friends with benefits, after graduating he started working as a digital artist, he's a nerd at heart, but he's well endowed, takes care of himself and he's down for most things.
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No. 1110620 ID: f1368b
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1110620

>B, Sophie
Jess has gotten closer with the rabbit since the divorce. He’s living with Terrence because the raccoon dog’s apartment opened up at the most convenient time, but Sophie’s been providing a lot of comfort, physical and otherwise. Their venn diagram of kinks has adequate overlap, even if Sophie isn’t into most RACK related things, and after they do a starter scene they can mingle with the other attendees and see where the night takes them.

After checking in and paying the party fee, they make their way into the main open area which features multiple ceiling anchor points, a St. Andre’s cross, scattered old couches, and a table of refreshments. Jess scans the crowd of half-naked people and immediately spots a familiar gray wolf and his new girlfriend, a chubby, nerdy flatworm.
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No. 1110621 ID: f1368b
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1110621

He and Henry aren’t on bad terms, per se, they figured out selling the house and splitting all the finances easy enough. It’s nowhere near a Becca situation, but Jess wouldn’t call them friends. They avoid each other if possible, but say hi and coordinate when the situation demands it.

Jess averts his eyes and focuses on Sophie, who’s in a cute black corset and panties. “Hey girl, what were you thinking for the warmup?”

Plan a simple scene between Sophie and Jess.
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No. 1110623 ID: 142e79

>>1110620
Is that supposed to henry's new girlfriend? I like her. I don't actually want to see Jess or anything, so I won't vote for that, but I do think that flatworm girl looks cute.
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No. 1110629 ID: f2320a

>>1110621
Did Sophie sort of plan or push for this at the dnd scene i wonder a tiny bit
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No. 1110630 ID: f2320a

>>1110623
do also you think both of them would "coincidentally" be moving to the "torture" area just as Jess and Sophie are also going there?

perhaps Henry stringing up his new girlfriend and literally using her as a actual punching bag after being filled up with food? as she not having real bones and liking being pummeled in bed with a metal pipe or other things?, all the while he side glances or circle around his girlfriend(with glasses removed probably will not notice the distraction) keeping a eye on Jess and Sophie recognizing her as one of the friend from the DND group after a bit, and see what thoughts can brew in his head.

so thoughts first question do you think Sophie or Jess would be blindfolded?.
Jess blindfolded someone else could always come up and torture them.(not mentioning who but you get it)
Sophie blindfolded, no distractions would really be noticed and someone else can get involved.

Now shaving? no fur means paddles and whips hurts way more and more temperature sensitivity as thats just how it feels when you shave your head or other areas of the body, makes markings more noticeable with red hand print patterns, paddle patterns and lashing lines and probably would get a thrill from doing it with a knife or razor blade feeling the edge of the blade glide against the skin and leave a few scratches that can be painful later(such as with candle wax), if they dont just do it with body waxing several times (extremely painful more so for a animal completely covered in fur) or just use a shaver for convenience.
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No. 1110631 ID: f2320a

>>1110621
is that you Tippler in the background on the cross being whipped with a 9-o-Tails whip?
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No. 1110632 ID: 142e79

>>1110630
Henry didnt chicken out on all the rough violence actions that Jess probably wanted just to start doing it to someone else. By
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No. 1110638 ID: f2320a

>>1110632
he is very good with the safe words and he would do it if Jess did not have a breakdown due to competitive spirit with the cock cages and chasity belts, and he did plenty hate sex, he can do it if the girl likes it and there are no open ended secrets with no solutions offered or negotiation. could also be the harmscale i think Jess would desire more knife, but girlfriend without bones who just likes being punched and beaten is different.

fuck perhaps Jess will make a "i guess you would have loved me if i was a worm and not a man"
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No. 1110639 ID: f2320a

>>1110638
>>1110632
orr...perhaps doing it to make Jess jelouse partially but also wanting to keep girlfriend happy and working out anger while also getting to feel the softness he is horny for
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No. 1110687 ID: f1368b
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1110687

>Blindfolded shaving
They don’t have the supplies for a proper waxing session, but Jess brought his fur trimmer, which he plugs into the wall before shedding his clothes. He kneels with his back facing Sophie, who rubs his shoulders to warm him up before tying a simple black cloth blindfold over his face.

It’s better this way. He doesn’t have to see Henry pummeling his girlfriend, who’s soft body lends itself to thuddy impact play in a way Jess’s lean musculature never could.

Jess listens to the buzz of the trimmer as Sophie clears a square patch of fur, revealing pale skin. Sophie teases the sensitive skin with her short nails and the cold metal of Jess’s favorite switchblade.
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No. 1110688 ID: f1368b
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1110688

He lets himself settle into his mind and limbs, aware of the way the hard floor hurts his knees and the chatter as people come to observe the scene. It’s okay to miss Henry. It’s okay to wish the wolf wasn’t here. His ex-husband is his own person and there aren’t a lot of options for local kink events.

Sophie finishes the scene with a small slice on either side of Jess’s spine. It prickles and leaks a few drops of blood that the rabbit smears into his skin. They cuddle on the sofa and Jess pets Sophie’s thigh.

He spots Emiliano in the crowd, the bull has a nice cock and doing a scene with him would probably make Henry jealous. Or he could just go say hi to the wolf and break the ice like a normal person.

A. Emiliano
B. Henry
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No. 1110691 ID: 23183b

>>1110688
A
Let the hardcore yandere arc commence.
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No. 1110695 ID: fd169b

B)
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No. 1110718 ID: 728604

A
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No. 1110719 ID: bf9714

B
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No. 1110722 ID: 19e2f3

A.
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No. 1110732 ID: 916992

>>1110688
B)
Keeping the pattern accidentally
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No. 1110733 ID: 916992

>>1110732
But also is this better or her fucking the bull and crying. Sophie seems happy atleast
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No. 1110735 ID: 916992

>>1110691
Tell me more about this?
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No. 1110768 ID: f1368b
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>Tie, default to B
They shouldn’t dance around each other, that’s how they ended up in the awkward post confession purgatory for so long. Jess puts his boxers back on but stays topless as he goes over to where Henry’s feeding the worm bites of cake.

“Hey ex-husband, what’s up?”

Henry’s fur puffs up immediately as he calculates the risk of the incoming threat. “Uh, are you sure you want to be talking?”

“Yes, Henry, we can’t stay on the opposite sides of the room from each other for the rest of our lives, the bathrooms are over here. If you don’t want to introduce me to your cute new girlfriend that’s fine.”

The flatworm’s eyes are on his bare tits. Okay, if Jess is being honest Henry’s been glancing at them too. They’re good tits, after all.

Henry sighs. “Alisa, this is my former partner Jess. Jess, this is Alisa.”
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No. 1110769 ID: f1368b
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1110769

Jess holds his hand out for a shake and considers Alisa’s bruised breasts. A fine rack. Voluptuous and smooth.

Pick-up line time. “Yah like Team Fortress 2?”.

“Oh yes! I see ship art for the characters online all the time.” Alisa chirps. She has a bit of a lisp from her adult braces. “I like the Heavy and the Medic, ooo, or Sniper and Spy, I’ve read some good fanfictions for those pairings.”

“Ah, a refined connoisseur of the arts. We’re going to get along great, and I’m glad you’re here to help cheer this wolf up, you’re just his type.”

Alisa titters and blushes, shooting Henry adoring looks. Henry, for his part, takes a deep breath and smiles down at her. “Let’s finish this cake and then I can rub your stomach, okay?”

A. Stick around and chat
B. Okay, now it’s time for bull dick
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No. 1110770 ID: 315ec3

B, let them enjoy their cake together, while you enjoy a nice sausage
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No. 1110771 ID: 9852aa

>>1110769
A shortstack nerd who's into TF2? Henry, if you don't put several children in her i will be severely disappointed.
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No. 1110773 ID: fd169b

B) but keep an eye on the two, its sure to be a hot show
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No. 1110774 ID: 53b30a

B.
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No. 1110781 ID: 6fc2ae

>>1110769
A) try figure out them are they planning to get married? Kids in the future? How did she get Henry to be do physical with her, Its probably not jealous or envious or you missing Henry beacuse she is living your life
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No. 1110784 ID: 99a466

B

Let them know that you'd like to stick around and chat, but the allure of the bull dick is too much to resist. It's been a while since you've been really satisfied, and Emiliano was always a great lay.

Keep an eye on them while you're with Emiliano. You want to know how it's making them feel, how it's making him feel. Does he miss you, too?
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No. 1110797 ID: 23183b

Knowing Jess, I'll be shocked if stealing Henry's girlfriend just to drive him crazy so he'll pursue Jess isn't going to happen.
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No. 1110852 ID: 3f77a4

>>1110769
A) i hunger for the desperation the jealousy oh what is lost and perhaps not past, he must want you right?
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No. 1110919 ID: 23cf5d

>>1110769
Dram
A)
!
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No. 1110954 ID: f1368b
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1110954

>Consider seduction
“Well I won’t get in the way of your fun, see you around Alisa.”

Jess gives her a jaunty wave and a wink and the worm happily waves back. It would be too easy to insert himself into their relationship, he better not even entertain the thought.

>Are Henry and Alisa planning to get married?
>Inseminate worm? Hot gooey conception worm sex?
Whoa, whoa! They’ve only been dating for a few months AND she’s a rebound, it’s a little early to be thinking about matrimony.

>B for bull
Emiliano is laid out on a couch, muscles shining with a white cloth artfully draped over his erection. His partner, a lanky flamingo and fellow artist, sketches the scene with charcoal. It would be rude to interrupt, so Jess finds a good vantage point to watch.

Emiliano is the one who greets him. “Hello Jess, how are you?”

“Getting used to eligible bachelorhood, Emil. You can see how I’m being swarmed by desperate suitors now that I’m back on the market.”

The bull laughs, though he keeps himself very still. “I assume you’re here for me?”
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No. 1110955 ID: f1368b
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1110955

“Yep, I’m here to enter into gay sex talks. Henry’s here and I want to make him jealous.”

“Ah, that famous Jess bluntness.” Emil sighs fondly. “It has been a while since we hooked up, hasn’t it? I don’t know how to feel about the psychological warfare.”

“Bad.” the flamingo supplies.

“Yes, revenge sex isn’t terribly sexy speaking as the would be weapon of choice. I would much rather we have a genuine encounter.”

“Revenge sex isn’t sexy?” Jess asks, baffled.

“In some cases it could be, but I don’t find the idea of being used to get back at your lovely ex-husband appealing. If I were cuckolding him with permission, it would be different.”

“Damn.” Jess scratches his head and tries to think of what to do instead.

A. Come up with a scene idea that doesn’t include penetrative sex
B. Hookup with Emil at his place (hang out until then)
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No. 1110957 ID: 99a466

A

We don't need to actually get fucked to prove the point. We're barely even proving a point, we're just testing the waters. Would Henry even get jealous? How does he even feel about you anymore? Does the thought that he might not want you anymore hurt? Doesn't matter if he still does! Fawn over Emiliano a bit, grope his body a little, maybe do some kissing once his portrait's done. As long as Henry sees and you can see him, you can get the datapoint you're looking for.
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No. 1110972 ID: 3f77a4

>>1110955
How is it Cucking if its not non-con?
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No. 1110973 ID: 23cf5d

>>1110955
Hey, it's not cuckold technically, since he's not your husband anymore, and he's not consenting, he just happened to sadly be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
It would just be helping a 'poor heartbroken husband' forget about his ex-dear.

So, how about blowing this party up by letting you blow him for a bit? No wrong in that.
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No. 1110977 ID: 53b30a

B sounds good. Better to save him for somewhere more private later.
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No. 1110996 ID: 3f77a4

>>1110955
A. Sucking and chewing on his horns while rubbing his nipples dirty talk about him being a cow ready to be milked channel your niche female functioning bara fetishes you want that milk from man nipples
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No. 1111069 ID: f1368b
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>What is cucking?
Ah, the subject of many a netorare doujin and the one, infamous Oh Joy Sex Toy comic. Outside of hentai, cuckolding is a real, though not exactly common, presumably consensual fetish. The kink in particular isn’t important, it’s more that Emil is politely explaining why he’s not interested in Jess’s scheme.

>A, kiss and grope
“How about I worship that hot bod then? Once you’re finished getting your picture done I can rub you with coconut oil and smooch those gorgeous tits.” Jess proposes.

“I suppose I may dignify you with my presence.” Emil says grandly. “Take a seat below me, make yourself comfortable.”

The fox settles himself on the floor at the base of the couch. It doesn’t take long for the flamingo to finish, it’s a modest figure drawing after all. Still, the bird did a great job with rendering Emil’s muscles and Jess gives him a thumbs up.
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No. 1111071 ID: f1368b
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Emil stands and lets the artfully draped white cloth fall to the floor. He’s mostly soft now, and Jess goes to get a jar of coconut oil while the bull strikes a powerful pose. His short fur is clean and trimmed around the base of his tail, and Jess carefully rubs his hands all over his firm muscles. He presses kisses into Emil’s back and feels the bull shiver slightly.

>Henry attention check: Failure
When the fox is facing toward Henry’s side of the room, he discretely peeks around Emil’s broad torso to see if the wolf is paying attention. Nope, his eyes are only for Alisa and her round, pale tum.

A. You know what, good for him
B. Seethe a little
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No. 1111072 ID: cb76eb

A
He'll be just fine.
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No. 1111073 ID: fd169b

A) she's just too cute.
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No. 1111076 ID: d30887

You need help.
(A)
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No. 1111078 ID: 99a466

B

Your relationship meant something to you. Maybe you didn't realize it at the time, but Henry was important to you, important enough for you to still be thinking about.

Think about that, once the anger has faded. Why do you still care so much? Is this how you expected to feel when you agreed to the divorce?
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No. 1111084 ID: e1a1a9

B.
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No. 1111089 ID: f2320a

>>1111071
B) why did i just say stuff like "if thats what you think is best" when henry asked stuff like if i still loved him or wanted to be married, why did i never even say anything what i feel except once, with the edging i said nothing had a breakdown did a dramatic decleration that changed nothing after except push us apart, did i destroy our marriage fuck why did i not care about that but connecting with becca?
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No. 1111093 ID: 23cf5d

>>1111071
B
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No. 1111134 ID: b71e93

Maybe it is because Jess did love him after all, in a twisted sort of way. Maybe it is just full-blown possessiveness.

Maybe it will end well. Maybe it will end very, very bad.

Either way:

>B
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No. 1111136 ID: f1368b
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>Cope, seethe, and mald
Ohhhh it hurts to be ignored. Yes it’s good that Henry’s having fun with his girlfriend and not getting fixated on Jess, but the fox can’t help some good, old-fashioned jealousy. He wants to have his cake and eat it too, dammit.

He keeps squinting at Henry to try and get some sign that the wolf cares about how much beef Jess is handling, but the wolf stubbornly keeps his attention on the worm. The irony of the situation is not lost on Jess and he huffs with frustration. Bested by his ex-husband in a made-up game the wolf didn’t even know he was playing, the humiliation!

“What’s wrong Jess? You seem irritated.” Emil asks.

“I’m not over Henry so seein’ him here kind of bothers me.” Jess squeezes Emil’s pecs harder than intended and the bull grunts.

“Makes sense, you haven’t been divorced for very long.”

“I want to win divorce though. I want to–to not care about him anymore cause the relationship meant a lot to me and it’s sad. Don’t know if I should have fought harder to stay together.”

Emil carefully takes Jess’s greasy hands and moves them away from his body. “We can sit on the sofa and talk, I don’t think you’re in the proper headspace to play.”

“Grrrrrrrr…”
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No. 1111137 ID: f1368b
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As consolation, Emil slings a coconut scented battleship of an arm around Jess’s shoulders once they settle into the well-loved couch.

“Sometimes I wish we were still married, I guess.” Jess admits.

“Did one of you push for the divorce?”

“Yeah, Henry did, so I guess there wasn’t much I could do. Near the end he was being kind of nasty to me, not like abusive or anything, but I wasn’t happy.”

“Hm.”

“It’s like, what do I want from myself? It’s okay to be unhappy, but I don’t want to be unhappy. I like being alive, I like living. What happened between us happened, it’s done, even if sometimes I’m petty about it.”

“That seems normal to me. We’re all freaks here by society’s standards but we’re still fallible, emotional people.” Emil offers.

“Am I really?”

“Fallible? I would say so.” Emil says innocently.

“No, emotional, dummy. I’m like, kind of a psycho.”

“Of course you are, you were just talking about your emotions.”

Final choice:
A. Let Jess be at peace
B. Continue to haunt him
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No. 1111139 ID: 90bde2

A
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No. 1111140 ID: d30887

C) Find out who abused you as a child
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No. 1111141 ID: 60dd6a

A
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No. 1111142 ID: 6ee618

A
You're wiser now. Use that to become a better person.
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No. 1111151 ID: f2320a

>>1111137
B. Continue to haunt him
Did you push him also towards divorce leaving it up to him at each point not saying you want to stay togheter? He is sensitive like a child he needs affirmation and reciprocation he was just stewing the entire time.
That flatworms seems into Yaoi and your tits so perhaps you can fuck her boyfriend
Also
C) Find out who abused you as a child
>>1111142
Not sure wiser more "Don’t Know What You Got Till It’s Gone" and not sure about better person as it will just continue like it always has.
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No. 1111152 ID: 73a049

>>1111137
B. Continue to haunt him
Feels like a good storyarc where both realize they have feelings for eachother again and potentially forming a poly marriage.
Also this was literally exactly what i wanted out of therapy for jess to actually open up and say "i thought you wanted the divorce?" And henry say it, stuff like henry opening up about "when you declared that you where a man and nothing changed ,has just been confusing for me i thought you where making yourself miserable and wanted to change all our plans or did you just said it to say it? Beacuse i was waiting for the other shoe to drop? I started questioning everything"
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No. 1111153 ID: 73a049

>>1111152
Like it seems like both parties thought the other one wanted a divorce but both did not.
This may be the push for them towards eachother like two bits of driftwood
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No. 1111158 ID: f39d25

>>1111140
It's funny we know more about Henry's family, Mr J's we know nothing at all
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No. 1111159 ID: f39d25

>>1111137
Why can you be so open here but not with the man you married, why are you degrading yourself and seemingly talking about you as if you dont have emotions? Perhaps you are so emotionally constipated you dont realize your feelings or others? Is this why Henry and You where both so unsure
>>1111158
B) But also C) beacuse honestly yeah....
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No. 1111160 ID: 23cf5d

>>1111137
B)
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No. 1111175 ID: e1aabf

>>1111137
B, we are a perfomative little gremlin and we want to be a bit of a disaster about this
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No. 1111183 ID: f1368b
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1111183

>Was Jess abused as a child?
No, he’s just like this, as has been emphasized many times.

>Tie when discounting votes that are from the same suggestor on different IPs
>Choice random selection: B
Jess deflates and leans into Emil’s side. “Thanks for listening, I think it’ll take a while for me to get over Henry. I don’t think I’ve ever really felt this way.”

“That’s normal too.”

“Yeah, and I don’t want to be normal! I want to be the coolest macho dude in the world–a real badass who doesn’t feel bad about their ex-husband.” Jess waves his arms dramatically, a thespian with an enthralled audience. “I care about him still, I’m glad he’s happy and all that, but it hurts, ugh.”

Jess buries his face in a firm right pec to hide his prickling eyes. “Gimme a hug, b-big guy.”

Emil embraces the fox with stout bull strength while Jess mourns his missing piece.



Thanks for reading.
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No. 1111184 ID: f2320a

>>1111183
thanks for running you where not kidding this was the final choice, was interesting playing in a modern setting
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No. 1111185 ID: cb76eb

The hurt won't go away but it will get easier eventually. Good luck.

Thanks for the ride, Tippler.
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No. 1111192 ID: fd169b

Hang in there Jess
Good story Tippler
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No. 1111197 ID: b71e93

What a rollercoaster of emotions this story was.
I don't think there was a quest that generated as much back and forth between the readers in a good while.

Thank you for the adventure.


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