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16409 No. 16409 ID: 2563d4

If we can have a thread for MSPA here, we can have a thread for the actually good quest lurking on its forums here, if only because despite it apparently being well-known on IRC, not everyone is on IRC. And that's terrible because this is great:
Like Weaver-grade writing great with Dungeon Deeper-grade art great.
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No. 22574 ID: 4a20fa

>Well, admittedly destroying her quest log was a bit of a dick move.
It was entirely deserved because the suggestors are morons.

She left the empty bottle near her. What happened is entirely reasonable. Kat's lack of reaction is pretty much textbook depressive worn-out-my-ability-to-feel-sad fatigue.

Again, people mad that it's a comedic tragedy, not a power fantasy.
No. 22575 ID: 1d5849

I don't think there's been anything to imply Kvatch was supposed to burn down that day.

>Again, people mad that it's a comedic tragedy, not a power fantasy.

Frankly, I don't care it's not power fantasy. But have you heard of there being some delicious middleground? A little bit of actual standing success and power would be nice, instead of bringing her all the way to the bottom.

There's no comedy in it, not for me at least, because the protagonist is so sympathetic. All I can do is cringe whenever a new horrible thing happens to her. Especially when most of those seem to be brought to her by the viewer suggestions.
No. 22576 ID: e3f578

Maybe this might be the issue people are, though I'm fine with this stuff right now, just trying to see it from a different POV
People suggest on the grounds that success is in sight, or within their grasp. There's a point to their suggestion. The suggestions were akinned to back-seat driving metaphor by the author, all right. Passengers ride along to get to a destination. And that journey is fun.
Normally, in an optimal dark comedy, you would feel a lot bumps in the road, but you sense we're getting to a destination in a form. A form of progress is made, sometimes, thanks to the foggy roads, mirages and bumps, the car is even farther from where they began and the character is worse off though it look like we're driving towards progress still, sort of. Like in Breaking Bad, Walter White's goal in the beginning is getting more money. He gets it by going through hell and changing a lot inside, and losing much. And then he loses money again, goes through more stress to get it, and practically loses his destination for a completely different one near the end, a pointless empty destination.

Katia's hitting some good bumps here, but fuck, she hasn't gotten worse off than how she's started since she first lost all her shit like this. She's been through this situation before, only now in a different location and completely different context. She hasn't even grown much different as a person or her way of reacting to things hasn't changed much either. She's just naked, crying, dieseased, homeless and ashamed again, it's just back to square one. In a dark comedy, we should be back farther to square negative-three to keep up the change. And technically, we only made it to square 1.5 before falling back to square one, that isn't much of a backtrack at all! It's honestly like all of us in the car are just driving around in a culdesac here without even knowing it, or asking Katia to stay put and turn on the car's hydraulics on a single big bump in the road.

Now we have to get either worse than even before, or significantly better, THEN WAY SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE. The engagement rollercoaster's got a pretty flat wave going on here.
No. 22577 ID: 6a1ec2


>> because the suggestors are morons.

And that is exactly the attitude that puts people off to this quest. Kazerad can ignore people's suggestions all he wants, but it's just not copasetic ignoring all helpful suggestions, until people give up and start making silly suggestions, assuming they won't be taken seriously, and then accusing those people of being morons because all their suggestions have now been used to ruin yet another thing in Katia's life. There's always going to be a bell curve of intelligence, but people posting silly suggestions because they're excited are not necessarily on the bottom end of that bell curve. It's wrong to absolve yourself of culpability by accusing them of being morons.

I haven't suggested anything in months because of this selective suggestion weeding and power tripping on Kazerad's part. He really needs to cool it, and take responsibility for his own goddamn plot.

As for the empty bottle, it was sort of shattered out in the alleyway, so it's still a stretch. Katia's lack of helpful exposition (even if it gets totally ignored) was my biggest protest.
No. 22582 ID: e3f578

You know, Kaz has a lot of fans' suggestions to read through, he does pretty much have to weed everything out lest he go insane.
When the fanbase was smaller, Katia had a bit more luck doing conductive stuff. She was doing real well yesterday until the end, and I imagine a BUNCH of fans have come in since then. I mean, sure, there was a lot of fans from the day before yesterday and quite a bit the day before that, but as time goes on, suggestions are going to get more and more weeded due to mass.
Shiiiiiit, after a certain point of fans and suggestions, I'd just go fuck it and go with results that make things more difficult and make more conflict for the character myself.
I would certainly like Katia to actually move on, but damn, the poor girl is getting more and more schizophrenic each passing minute in our world compared to hers. And a few of her minutes can be weeks worth of ours. Which means Katia's brain is going through a few week's worth of thoughts. From a realistic standpoint, with that many voices in your head, you would blunder and do stupid shit all the time. You have to listen to EVERY SINGLE ONE at once, or use an old suggestion for an entirely new situation that came in in the middle of the big update posts.
The format's changed, big updates mean less reactionary suggestions and more plug in technically old reactions to a problem that didn't exist until the middle of the update.
I'm sure if this was in /quest/ format, where there'd not only be a bit less suggestions, but more reactionary ones per picture, then when we get to conversing to the arigonian maid in the middle of this update, we probably would have left a better impression on the poor girl. But Katia's got to do most of the talking and reactions herself using a pool of often irrelevant ones.

Using the old car metaphor again, she's turned left all ready and needs to take a right very quickly, but all the back-seat drivers are still shouting left from last time, or there's a deer she's about to hit but nobody saw it coming but maybe her, so she had to decide to dodge herself.
No. 22934 ID: 35d27b

wait... katia...... your here?! I..... you do know I have an innate desire to protect you?
No. 22935 ID: 1d5849

We all do. And we're failing horribly at it.
No. 23047 ID: c74c7d
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I know you're reading this Kazerad.

Have something I drew to enjoy.
No. 23058 ID: 6bce57

>Not wearing Pyromancer's Gear.

It's either that or Deprived start for her.
No. 23067 ID: 49f442


Nope. Dingy is where it is at.
No. 24262 ID: 78c6ea
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No. 24265 ID: 78c6ea


They finagled my connection or something. prequeladventure.com was going to a cybersquatter site. Oddly a reset seems to have fixed the problem...
No. 24371 ID: b53faa
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oh hey, I remember this
I actually did a sprite for them back when I was still new to thew practice
No. 25105 ID: bac511

The latest update

is so good

I can't even express it in a continuous sentence.

My progress was: 109 seconds, 92 seconds, 81 seconds, 73 seconds, then I got bored and went to sleep.
No. 25107 ID: ea4b0b

I am honestly convinced that once mspa is over this is going to be the next big thing, because HOLY SHIT is this an awesome webcomic thing.
No. 25108 ID: f5680f

It's already pretty big.

My best time is 72 seconds. I bet it could be trimmed down to under 70, but it would require a perfect run.
No. 25109 ID: 1d5849

It needs two things it doesn't have: A) update like once a day, or at least more often than once a month, and B) not be so fucking miserable and kick over its adorable main character so much.

The second point makes me fucking hate this comic, but I can't look away... I can't. Someone please help me.
No. 25111 ID: 57a559

I made a big dumb regular Dirtbag post.
Instead, I think I'm just going to say that I think Katia's an idiot. A sympathetic one, but an idiot.
She pulled it off here at least. Thank the nine. Hope she doesn't fuck this up.

90 something seconds.
Tell me, when does the environment stop being new and starts looping or something?
No. 25112 ID: c23ab0
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Hey guys, don't feel so down about Katia. Things could always be worse.
No. 25113 ID: f5680f

At least then she would be able to rush into combat and die repeatedly to learn how to fight, then eventually start winning and gain souls.

In Prequel she's just not good at anything, so she can't make any progress at all.
No. 25115 ID: 57a559

She can run and pounce on rooftops. She's pretty good at that.
No. 25116 ID: 1d5849

Apparently she's also pretty good at throwing rocks at people.

And of course, we can't underestimate that she can throw fire around, even if not very well.
No. 25117 ID: c23ab0


No. 25139 ID: 57a559

I like this new ruthless Katia.
No. 25188 ID: a01b62

Katia is awesome when she's mad. Also the guard is hilarious.
No. 25198 ID: 9a33f1

So did CHEATING BASTARD Kazerad win that Pony thing? Do we get to see another toothy lizard side story? What about the filthy pornography he'd promised?
No. 25206 ID: a23afd

He won, and the next round of voting hasn't started yet, or something.
No. 25216 ID: 0fe3ce

>What about the filthy pornography he'd promised?
That wasen't Kazerad, it was someone else trying to cause trouble.
That said, who really knows?
No. 25226 ID: a01b62

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This is the best loading spinner.
No. 25252 ID: 074ab3

It had habbebed.
No. 25253 ID: a23afd

Okay, so, that wasn't completely pointless. We know that the pineapple is destroyed in the process of whatever she does.

Personally I think she sticks the yoyo up herself and then fires it out at the pineapple to obliterate it. Nearly-impossible, highly sexual, and totally awful.
No. 25254 ID: c23ab0


Did I miss chunks of pineapple flying past QW's shocked face or something?
No. 25255 ID: fae054

Katia found the pineapple safe and sound after she woke up.
No. 25257 ID: a23afd

What the hell is that liquid in the last couple images, then? Oh right, she did it in the fountain, didn't she.

Now I think she ties the yoyo to the pineapple (if you put the string through the ring you can make a loop) and then just holds onto the yoyo part with her internal muscles while she stands up and lets it hang. Pineapples are pretty heavy, so I guess that must be "nearly impossible"? It's probably the heaviest object she can do it with. The splashed water must be from her falling over afterwards. Or dropping the thing.
No. 25258 ID: 4a20fa

Wilbur goes straight into the lofty ranks of "excellent Prequel background characters".
No. 25259 ID: fae054

Hauls-Ropes-Faster is mai waifu.
No. 25628 ID: 30df25
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No. 25629 ID: 8b9215

The one on the right, please.
No. 25631 ID: 53548a

Aggy best guardian, Dunmer master race.
No. 25975 ID: 30df25
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Update. with a [S]
No. 25979 ID: 30df25
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No. 25980 ID: 30df25
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cultist-chan cancer
No. 25982 ID: 30df25
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No. 25983 ID: 9b57d3

Aggy seems to be an effective Mysticism teacher.
No. 25985 ID: 57a559

Yeah now that Katia can solve simple puzzles by seeing the most effective solution before she does them; she's actually started on her way towards succeeding somewhat.

Hopefully enough to get her off the streets.

With Aggy's help we should be able to get most of our shit back.
I don't want sad cat quest no more I want awesome cat quest.
No. 25986 ID: 9b57d3

I just realized this Mysticism future-sight thing is the same as the objective marker in Oblivion/Skyrim.
No. 25990 ID: fb66b4

>she's actually started on her way towards succeeding somewhat.

I've lost count how often we've thought that.

Mark my words, she'll just end up getting even worse off than before. Everything always fails. Fuck this story.
No. 25991 ID: 3ca413

See, I always see it as the opposite of that.
Katia started at the bottom of a hole, and is trying to climb out. She keeps slipping back down to the bottom, but on each try she climbs a little higher.

She's going to fail again.
But so long as she keeps trying, and learns a little each time, then she's still making progress.
No. 25992 ID: 57a559

I don't know
I mean, there's got to be a point where we stop failing
There's got to. If we just try enough. Otherwise the story will die anyway.

And to be honest, it's really only been three times where she's fallen low, on the end of each day. However, she broke the pattern on her fourth night, ending it with a success. If she doesn't fuck it up getting shelter.

Then again she'll probably try for the burglary tonight with her newfound confidence and she could very well continue the failure pattern there. But she'll likely die if she fails, yet despite all her failures she's still alive somehow, which means it's 99% impossible she'll fail this time, because the stakes would be waaaay to high.

I mean, she could be in prison, but three meals a day and shelter to sleep in isn't actually THAT bad, depending on the prison.
No. 25993 ID: 9b57d3

She's stopped falling all the way to the bottom. She's made progress:
2) Learned how to use destruction magic properly
3) Learned some basic melee combat skills
4) Found out her nightmares are supernatural in nature
No. 25994 ID: 9b57d3

Personally I'd like for her to break in, find the musk, and use it all on herself. Then she'd be able to deny Sigrid the use of it from then on, AND she'd be able to just ask Sigrid for her stuff back. Maybe even some spending money too as compensation. And she'd get away scott free, because everyone would love her to pieces and Sigrid can't press charges aside from tresspassing, which is a simple fine. If Katia asks for enough money from Sigrid to pay off the fine, we're good.
No. 25995 ID: dbe554


Except she doesn't use it anymore, she's got enchantments on her gear.
No. 25996 ID: a87e3a

What? Yes she does, she used it against Katia.
No. 25997 ID: 3f490e

Well, maybe if we got more updates than THREE A YEAR we could actually have the time to see that happen before heat death of the universe.

I think I'll prefer a story that gives us the fruits of our labor a tad earlier.
No. 26033 ID: 30df25
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March 29: Kaz's hosting company has slapped a password-protection on the site. Rumour has it the cockblock is because of exceeded bandwidth limits.
No. 26034 ID: 9ddf68

wow, the universe has it out for her so bad that even the internet it's self is turning against her.
No. 26035 ID: cf2c74
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>March 29: Kaz's hosting company has slapped a password-protection on the site. Rumour has it the cockblock is because of exceeded bandwidth limits.

It's not a rumor! I just can't post about it on the site because the site isn't publicly accessible.

It was using so much of their resources that it was slowing down other sites on the network, so I have to make it more efficient before it can go live again. This has happened like three times before.
No. 26036 ID: 2c6ff1

I love that his spear is literally his dick in the lore.
No. 26037 ID: 4a20fa

Clearly, the time has come for ASCII-art updates.
No. 26285 ID: 2bfcdf

Update. Still no Mysticism.
No. 26287 ID: 57a559

Yeah I just don't know what to do at this point. Are we just supposed to get it or are we just going to have to deal with all the "Katia not getting Mysticism" intended updates before it's finally gotten?

I mean, really, the only thing I can really think about is repeat what that dumbass ghost is saying. Are we NOT supposed to listen to the dumbass ghost? Is that what we're really supposed to do?
No. 26317 ID: 5b596d


I've been tired of failing around doing nothing for three updates now
No. 26321 ID: 9e9939

And we only get an update once in a blue moon, so I get to wait two or three months until the next time we can see Katia fail to get it.
No. 26398 ID: 57a559

So it looks like Kaz just wrote the weird Gordan Freeman holding mechanic thing you can do in Oblivion into fucking Canon.

And that I think that Katia actually broke into CHIM a bit. Yeah, okay, she just took a step towards CHIM. Whatever debate that went on about the context of CHIM in lore earlier on other boards here, maybe we can agree that shit right there's CHIM-based shit.
No. 26400 ID: ac14c0

I disagree. It's clearly Mysticism.
No. 26401 ID: 1992a3

Nevermind how it's actually just an in-game mechanical convenience and meant to simulate you dragging things around with your hand (despite no hand being shown), I think it was tied up reasonably well into the in-universe rules, CHIM or not.
No. 26402 ID: dbe554

What the heck is CHIM?
No. 26404 ID: ac14c0

CHIM is one of the Six Walking Ways to achieve divinity in the Elder Scrolls universe. Through deep understanding of the Aurbis (the whole of reality) you come to the conclusion that it is a dream of the Godhead. That attracts the Godhead's attention through that realization, and through sheer force of will you have to survive Its insistence that you do not exist. Then by further understanding how the Godhead dreams reality, you can alter reality too. CHIM is described by Vivec as "reaching heaven by violence", and it's generally accepted that Lorkhan created Mundus in order to show others how not to achieve CHIM, so that they have a better chance at the real thing.

It's like lucid dreaming. You figure out you're in a dream, but don't wake up despite that, and then you can control the dream.

A related topic is the Amaranth, which is when you make a whole new dream rather than changing the one you're in. Apparently Anu/Magus did this, though the consequences of that act have yet to reveal themselves.
No. 26537 ID: e607cd

This month's update had a lot of good dialog, and there were some great animation details at the end. It's just too bad I started that last sentence with the phrase "this month's update." So good, always wants more.
No. 26538 ID: cff877

I think I'd still have a whole bunch of rather less elaborate updates. All the flashes are fine and good, but I'm here for the story.
No. 26539 ID: ea5f60

Kazerad doesn't really care what his fans want. He's trying new things because he has his eye on what he wants to do for a career. Prequel is mostly a testing bed for him.
No. 26541 ID: cff877

Well it is pretty great, I just wish it'd be faster.

Wasn't he going to get someone to help him out with it?
No. 26542 ID: 88fe3d

He has at least three people helping him.
No. 26554 ID: 53548a

Additional resource credits:
Ryavis – programming, including the AI that
shoots you in the back repeatedly.
DragonXVI – music (“Hope For You Yet”)
OrchestralDesign – music (“The First Snow”)
CynicalCanasian – voice
MikeyTheFox – auxiliary spriting
CTCollab, ehproductions, samueljustice00, mallement,
Werra, Gutek, jobro – sounds
Dapperpixel – a background that I have like completely
covered with snow, but you can still see maybe four
pixels of it.
Squiggles – ghost faces
Cider – the usual
Chevy Ray Johnston – Flashpunk
No. 26555 ID: e66b79

Wow. It sounds like more time is going in simply organizing them and what they do than to just doing the next update.
No. 26643 ID: 8111b6

I think I love Kaz a little bit more. He actually took the time to look at 4chan and try to explain it and explain anonymity to people, making this beautiful post:

No. 26644 ID: 2fd516

You could've linked it directly.

Kazerad's tumblr has a lot of really insightful posts in it.
No. 26645 ID: 8111b6

Ah... I completely didn't notice that I had the wrong url copied when I pasted it. My bad. I only looked at the right half of it, instead of the left. Lesson learned.
No. 26647 ID: 53548a

I'd love Kaz a lot more if he updated more than once a month.
No. 27094 ID: 60700b

So, what is that prize?

Supposedly there is a prize for getting a total of under 105 secs.

No. 27096 ID: e114bc

I think that is a lie. It looks like it's impossible to do in under 105 seconds because even without getting hit you can't kill him in that amount of time.
No. 27097 ID: e114bc

...or maybe it's dependent on RNG?
No. 27100 ID: 330ce5

Oh hey this is good. Perhaps you don't know what it is. It is readable, you should read it. We happen to enjoy it, you might as well.
No. 27102 ID: e114bc

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Nope, it was possible to perfect in in exactly 100 seconds and getting under 105 earned you this sweet pin which arrived this morning. Be jealous of my skill.
No. 27130 ID: e114bc

No. 27131 ID: d362c7

Oh look, Katia got fucked over again. What a surprising twist.
No. 27178 ID: dc7870

I tried so god damn hard to get that and failed everytime.

Tell me your secrets, damnit!
No. 27514 ID: 5ad4a7


The main flash animation isn't finished but we've got a prequel prequel animation. The boat ride.
There's secret plot in it!

Here's what I've found:
A.First off, you can temporarily escape the ghost in the first nightmare. This is done by:
Luring the ghost onto the ship's helm, and while it's climbing up the stairs you can get around it via the other stairwell. There will be something even spookier at the front of the ship.
B.Second, you can escape the hold that's being flooded in the second nightmare. This is done by(two following spoilers):
B1.This requires some preparation. First, you need to investigate the dumbwaiter in the captain's quarters so that he tells you there's one leading to food storage(in the hold). Second, you have to check several specific crates amongst the ones in the hold, so that they contain needed items during the nightmare. Once you have this information, you escape the nightmare by:
B2.First checking the door, which will make katia break the lockpick and decide to check the storage for something to destroy the door with. Then you have to go get a wand of greater fireball, which Katia will say is too dangerous to use by itself. After that you have to get a tube out of the dwarven ruin excavation crate, and finally you need to get a weight out of one of the crates near the scale (I forget which).
C.I'm not sure if you have to complete both previous nightmares for this to happen, but the third nightmare will be completely different- instead of the crewmates eating Katia via the Wild Hunt, you wake up and find a tiny AKATOSH in the dream-hold.

Also there's a khajiit hiding in the women's bathroom during the first(and maybe second) day. Gee, I wonder who that could be.
No. 27515 ID: b8dcf0

Meh. Instead of fucking around with flashbacks and more misery and shit I'd just like to get this thievery bullshit done already. It's been over two years.

I've never seen a story move so slowly.
No. 27516 ID: bb78f2

We've had the large various pauses on Homestuck these last few years, not to mention several quests on tgchan that have been graveyarded then brought back to life for a single update then went back.

There's also the Venture Bros. which take two or so years per season, and The Song of Ice and Fire books take FOREVER to release.
No. 27517 ID: d138f6

captain snes has apso gone hilariously long between updates before and even now.

not excusing it at all, it's dumb, but flashes take a long while.
No. 27518 ID: 12b273

>captain snes
Holy crap, I've forgotten about that for years. Maybe there will be enough of a backlog to actually be worth reading.
No. 27520 ID: a8f5ac


In case anyone's interested, it turns out that the dragon says "Nahl Dal Vus" ("Living Return Nirn"), the same shout used in Skyrim to return the dragonborn from sovngarde.
No. 27521 ID: df759e

have fun with your backlog of like ten updates
No. 27526 ID: bb78f2

You know, at least this other side story thing is updating on a strict schedule (even if the updates are all done and released depending on money made).

And it just got incredibly dark. I mean, Prequel was SAD, but this is SAD-DARK. The darkest pit of SADNESS. It is potent, like if someone made a drink out of nothing but liquefied orphan tears and fireball whiskey.
No. 28751 ID: 3ce125

WELL the update finally came out. As can be expected, totally not worth 2 years of waiting. Still pretty neat!
No. 29260 ID: 6462c0

>made a drink out of nothing but liquefied orphan tears and fireball whiskey.
I'd totally drink that. I'd pay to drink that.
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