>>21790

>specifically call out the harassment of women
>backpedal furiously
>try to not only move the goalposts, but try to convince everyone involved that you were shooting for entirely different goalposts to begin with

You are the stupidest motherfucker I have seen in this thread.

And I post in this thread.

Bob 2012/07/09(Mon)21:21 No. 21805 ID: fa9f7e
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>>21804

>>21804
What exactly are you criticizing?

>>21808

Pretty much every post lady moon posh has made is dripping with entitled bullshit (also he seems like the sort of fag who would unironically tell someone to check their cisprivelege).

And, as evidenced by the previous posts in this thread, it would be a waste of my time to actually go through and explain to him why he's a shithead. If you can't see why, then I am baffled as to how you could possibly respond to my posts due to your crippling illiteracy.

So, given that this is the big dumb arguments thread, I decided to insult him because he is a fucking idiot and I felt like making my opinion known.

>>21790
>What a whiny bitch. Shut up.
Ace argument, fraulein.

>A drugged sociopath will get hit by some bozo if she straight her shit up and go to a bar?
Has...

...Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>21810
> I felt like making my opinion known.
Cool beans.

>>21817
You said something about "subtly" insulting and telling others to shut up. That was my answer. Anyway, I thought we were arguing about whatever I wanted to convey with my words. In my humble opinion, not a noteworthy subject. Maybe you guys really enjoy telling others how they should do things, particularly completely unimportant and totally insignificant things.

>>21818
So you actually were using that type of passive-aggressive "subtle" insult? Is that what you are saying?

In which case in your reply you should have stated that "what a whiny bitch, shut up" was the intent of your previous post. For example, you could've said "What I meant by that was that you are a whiny bitch and should shut up".

Which leads me to believe that "bad English" isn't actually the cause here.

By which I mean to imply you cannot communicate sufficiently in any language.

And what you want to convey with your words is actually a very noteworthy subject because THIS WHOLE THING DID IN FACT START FROM YOUR INABILITY TO CONVEY WITH YOUR WORDS WHAT YOU ACTUALLY MEANT.

>>21819
I did. Doesn't justify what I did, but I was in a really foul mood. I blew up because of a comment and take it out on you guys. Sorry about that. However, I don't think that an apology is enough, but I'll try not to repeat the same mistake. Or shut up and shut down the computer when I get depressed again.

> ==>
> this

Damned be you all, lazy bastards.

>>21884
To be fair, Ficus did say we're on autopilot. Although it should be sufficient for that to just not post.

>>21884
This.

>>21884
==>

Introducing direct player characters for suggesters to control is the worst possible thing you can do to the stability and long term life of a quest. Agreed?

>>21892

with this audience? yes.

>>21892
Which quests did that?
I remember one where the orb was given a robot body.
Do interactions like the one in Shoujen count? Where we had [insert insane thing here] abilities?

>>21894
Guns for Hire did, and it resulted in half of each update being about them, and later, entire updates.

Which makes it even less recommendable, as it switches focus rather jarringly in the latest thread from HA HA LET US TROLL EVERYTHING to OH MY GOSH WE LOVE THIS RUSSIAN SO MUCH

>>21894
Doesn't count, still requires consensus.

>>21895
That's sounds like your generic systemless forum RP than an actual quest.

>>21896
I would also like to establish that the "your" in this as in "Your friendly neighborhood Spiderman" instead of implying that you personally have a generic systemless forum RP.

>>21896
That is exactly what it became.

With one of those Russians sleeping with and seducing the main character.

>>21895
>>21896
>>21898
I thought it was less of a "generic systemless forum RPG" and more of a "massively overbloated collection of wiki updates in a half-arsed effort to make up for the lack of actual content".

But maybe that's just me.

>>21317
Well I'll be, looks interesting now.

You know, her owning and playing with a toy sword implies that she was a bit of a tomboy. Probably had actual dreams of being an adventurer once she thought she could never be a mage. I wonder how that panned out in Hammerfell or why she didn't try that before becoming a woman of ill repute.
I'm also curious if her pimp might try and track her down all the way to Cyrodil. It's hard giving away that lifestyle. You know she had to have had a pimp.

>>21930

Uh, yeah, whatever. I don't think a bordello owner would cross the ocean to beat up some raggedy cat lady just because she didn't give two weeks notice, no matter how skilled she was with a yo-yo. If anyone crossed the sea to get revenge on her it would be that cult she doesn't like to talk about, which is much scarier than a single pimp. And then there's the demon king marauding her dreams, more dangerous than both pimp and cult. And of course, there's the opening story of Oblivion, which being a world ending crisis is the most dangerous thing of all.

So, pimps are kind of low on my priority of worries right now.

>>21932
This IS a dark comedy though
Just sayin' shit can get ridiculous in this genre
remember Idiocracy and upgrayedd? Motherfucker wanted his money from 500 years in the future and got there even though there was no project to make a third cryopod, had access to no scientists even actually aware of the project, and somehow decided that, instead of digging out his ho, he'd just freeze himself.

In a dark fantasy comedy, you're goddamn right I expect a pimp to cross an ocean to get some of his motherfuckin' money from even the most raggedy of women. And the more ridiculous something is, the more dangerous it might be.

>>21933

Yeah, but unlike Idiocracy and upgrayedd, Prequel is actually good.

>>21964
The presence of a persistent pimp does not indicate quality or effect the whole's products quality. It's just one joke villain, really, and can be done well. And its been done in other absurd comedies before, or from a story a comedian told. Persistent and asshole pimp jokes are commonly mentioned when pimping is described in comedy. Because pimps are greedy assholes that love money, and pimping ain't easy... apparently.

But this is apparently coming from a guy who liked that movie telling a person who didn't about it. So, take that first statement with a grain of salt if that seems unreasonable.

>>21965

Yeah I'm not a big fan of stereotyping the porn industry until reality imitates fiction, no matter how funny the tired old rehashed joke is. You're free to like those movies; I was just being snarky.

That's... not how that works, and even then it's not the porn industry we're talking about. We're talking about something actually considered criminal. Whether its considered criminal in Hammerfell is another thing entirely.

In addition, that's not something funny, it's something you snirk at, nothing more. People don't repeat shit that was at first meant to be funny to be, unless their fools. Often, it's for entirely different reasons.

Like memes for example, no one really laughs at memes, they're not clever. After a certain point, it's just there for the snirk you get for recognizing it. A hollow retelling of the first joke, either for a sense of nostalgia or for a sense of belonging in a group that understands it. Why are memes even tolerated here at all if they serve no purpose? Because we're all retarded? No, because they have a form of meaning, often related by group. Jokes transcend their initial purpose over time, integrating into a community value or tradition. You tell them more often to get better along rather than to entertain.

>>21970
People are dumb too
Jokes lose their funny after being told once, at least after the person hears it first
they can't have their first purpose after that.

>>21968

We're talking about something actually considered criminal ORLY? Try uncensoring fictional drawings in Japan. And yes, big pimp daddy dog yo where's my money bitch is a meme. I don't like it. We should kill it.

Moving here because it's fully integrated into 100% argument about real life culture and 0 percent Prequel
>>21972
The porn industry and the sex industry are completely separate. You were talking about how the meme or stereotype affects the porn industry when it cannot.
>Yeah I'm not a big fan of stereotyping the porn industry until reality imitates fiction, no matter how funny the tired old rehashed joke is.
There are laws in the porn industry. You don't beat a porn star to get money from them, no one does, that's far from practical. That shit is discussed in acting contracts. Because that shit is still acting. Often it's filled with corny as fuck or just plain bad deliveries, but it's technically acting. Why you brought up the porn industry I have no idea, it didn't even seem relevant at all to the discussion. We were talking about pimping.
Okay, yeah, fine pimp abuse is a terrible, boring old meme if it's just there by itself with no deconstruction or build up. But you can't kill a meme. It's there, it's in culture, it's staying until it becomes so completely irrelevant no one talks about it anymore, which takes cultural upheaval or distancing, which cannot be controlled short of enslaving the culture. You'd have to go 1000 years in the future, where pimping will be so different you have no idea. Or the same, depending on whether or not pimps are licensed or not and have to adhere to legalized sex industry laws. If pimps have to be licensed because pimping is legal, and have been for some time in the year 3000, the unfunny joke will have pretty much died. If it's still illegal and pimping and hoing is all still within the black market, the joke will never die, because of how random human nature is and that odds are you'll have a harsh, mean pimp that abuses their hos than one that treats them with respect like Butters.

South Park, in my opinion, managed the pimping memes well, anyway, and could make them funny. But that was less about the fucking meme and more jokes about how weird the characters are. Butters the greatest, nicest pimp is so much a ridiculous concept some people can't help but laugh. In other examples of refering to pimping as a good joke, refer to the Other Guys with Will Ferrel and Mark Wahlburg, where straight-laced Will Ferrel has whole issues to do with pimping thanks to his backstory. Which, again, is still more character humor than enforcing the meme. But if the memes didn't exist, you can't build or deconstruct on them at all in the first place. We would not have a scene in the world where, in a serious discussion with his wife, he recedes back into his pimping personality due to his insecurity with his looks and real personality. This fucker pimped because he hated himself... and to make fat stacks of cash.

I would like to say that I knew this guy who made his living by pimping and he was a pretty cool guy. and once one of his employees came over and the three of us smoked some pot together.

so uh I guess fuck anyone who thinks pimps aren't cool

>>21974
The issue is about the joke of pimps being abusive and how horrid it is to use in fiction, or if it can be done well.

Human nature allows a person to defy stereotypes, so I don't think anyone is going to argue that a pimp can't be nice and cool.

But please note EG, that just because he was cool to you (if you aren't joking at all), does not mean he was cool to his hoes. I would also like to say that ho doesn't have to be a misogynistic term if a person uses it to refer to male hoes as well. Which I am.
Pimps beat their male whores too you know. Or are cool to them, random human nature and all, you know.

>>15862

OH NO, A GIRL ON THE INTERNET. WE BETTER BEG HER TO POST HER PORN SO SHE CAN PRETEND LIKE SHE WAS PRESSURED TO DO IT AND TOTALLY DOESN'T LOVE COCKS.

Just fucking admit you like sex and porn already and start posting it, you'll feel better about yourself and you'll get on everyone's nerves a lot less.

Alternately if you want to pretend you're ready for the nunnery, act like it.

(This user has been banned for this post.)

>>16042
I think it's time that you piss off.

Some people just do not like sharing personal things, and that's their prerogative. So I suggest you respect their wishes.

>>15862
I would recommend against posing "tease" images if you don't intend to post the full thing-- certainly not that kind of tease, as it does not show off any art and has no purpose other than being tantalizing, which will lead to posts like above.

You are a talented artist. It would be very easy for you to make the edits you'd have to make to post some things, and other things... just don't post them? Or don't talk about them? Bam secret kept good game everyone good game.

When did this culture arise of artists owing fucking everything to anyone else? It really pisses me off that apparently oh, you made a thing, you're OBLIGATED TO SHOW EVERYONE IF YOU SO MUCH AS HINT AT ITS EXISTENCE.

Yes, this has happened to me. Yes, I fucking hate it. "If you didn't want to share it you wouldn't have mentioned it!" Fuck off. Pay me for it if you want to see my shit scribbles that badly.

>>16048
Cirr, most of the time you personally resist linking something you just drew and told people about it's because you have some irrational fear if people calling you weird. Also you refuse money :v

I mean yes I agree with the main point about artists not being obligated to show people things but I don't think you have a lot to be personally mad at here.

Bob 2012/10/30(Tue)15:16 No. 22719 ID: c28336
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>>16048
>Pay me for it if you want to see my shit scribbles that badly.
Funniest thing I've read on tgchan bar none.

>>16048
If you don't want to show people things you don't hint about their existence or talk about it at all. Doing it, then complaining about them asking you to show it and then somehow trying to place yourself as a victim of omg rude offensive conduct is a shitty attention whoring technique.

I feel a strong desire to shower all of you in barely-covered penises.

>>22722
Well you should probably do that then.

>>22722
Proceed...

>>22717
Why the fuck would you not share something you made if people want it? It exists, and it costs you nothing to share it.

>>22734
Dignity? You're embarrassed by it in some way?
Human condition. Michelangelo had the same issue with his scribbles I think.

>>22734
Because most people actually care about how other people view them, and would rather not announce it to the whole world every time they draw furry porn.

blue!wine9yL7oA 2012/11/03(Sat)02:13 No. 22741 ID: 1ace6e
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I've generally avoided this thread because I have no idea what happened (when I found my thread, the posts were already removed) besides what I was learned from the warning post. But I feel I should say my piece.

It was a gift image. I made it for a friend. I asked if I could show the little bit I was proud of, they said it was fine, and I posted it without realization that it would lead to some sort of weird avalanche of whateverthefuck. It wasn't some weird gamble for attention, I didn't expect anyone to ask to see the rest, and I never complained about the requests. In fact, that night I sketched something up (with dicks!!! wow) that I could share with everyone because it wasn't a gift. It sits uninked on my desktop with the rest of my works, but I digress.

Sorry for cropping art??? ? (also sorry to the poor soul who cleaned up the thread, thank you)

>>22737

But if he's already mentioned it then he HAS announced it to the world.

It's his own fault for bringing it up in the first place. If he doesn't want to share it then he shouldn't be flaunting details about it to everyone and getting buttmad when people get curious. And this is true for all artists who think this way too.

And when he does this, sure he's not obligated to give it to them when they DO get curious, but it's seriously not something to get so pissy over either. I'm sorry, but Cirr's not the victim here at all.

tl;dr Cirr has no one to be angry with but himself.

>>22741
>I didn't expect anyone to ask to see the rest
If you post partial arts on the internets, internet people will want to see the rest. This is a constant. Adding a definitive 'I will not post the full image', with an optional reason (e.g. made for someone else) will effectively eliminate this. Otherwise the assumption will be that the image is a WIP towards something that will be posted.

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