throw poison knife at ogre

1/4 Justacritic 2014/03/22(Sat)20:19 No. 567418 ID: 9ec1aa
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>>567387
What? Diary, I don't know anyone by that name and an angry ogre like that, I don't want to go near.
>>567391
Okay, I'll just get this...

2/4 Justacritic 2014/03/22(Sat)20:19 No. 567420 ID: 9ec1aa
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Wha...?

3/4 Justacritic 2014/03/22(Sat)20:20 No. 567421 ID: 9ec1aa
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*shwmp*
I didn't know it could do that, did you know it could do that?!

4/4 Justacritic 2014/03/22(Sat)20:21 No. 567422 ID: 9ec1aa
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Oh wha? Diary it's melting, I don't know why but it's melting? What do I do now?

i'd call that a victory, demand kobold become your servant because of saving it's life.

Oh dear. It would seem your chemicals, poisons, magic, and knife expertise have all combined. Maybe some herbalogy too. I did not know this was possible.

Dear Author, I'm afraid I don't recognize what just happened. Did the knife extend into the ogre's head, and melt him through the chemical composition upon the blade's tip? Did it fire a bolt of poisonous essence?

Either way, as stupid and violent as an ogre may typically be, Kobolds are often said to be intelligent. I know you said trying to make it a minion was a stupid idea, but perhaps he would be willing to offer you some assistance for killing the ogre... Though that may involve having to sheath or holster the dagger, depending on where upon your body you store it.

look towards the kobold and see if it is hostile or not. If it's more or less friendly ask what it's doing in here.

Justacritic 2014/03/22(Sat)23:09 No. 567444 ID: 9ec1aa
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>>567424
I...I...I don't know. It looked like the sword grew so fast I couldn't see it. Then I think one of the poisons on the blade took him away.

>>567423
>>567432
He doesn't look hostile, then again diary looks can be deceiving. Anyway true diary I'll need people working under me and for now this is the easiest way for cheap labor.

So I need to get along with the kobold so that I can have him working under me? I guess...

"I, Master" "You Slave" I said. I'm feeling kind of woozy. So I can't come up with anything better.

What now then?

what do you mean woozy? did you cut yourself or is it simply the fums of the dead ogre? If you didn't cut yourself move away from the melting ogre and go further into the cave, and watch out for the kobolt. He has yet to earn our trust. If you did cut yourself treat that shit now. I mean look what it just did to that guy for god's sake.

Just what poisons did you have on that knife? You really need to be more careful when mixing things in the future.

Dear Author,

The Kobold does not seem fully certain what to do just yet. I would suggest moving away from the ogre, it is up to you whether you go deeper in or head back to the entrance. Gesture for the Kobold to come with you, but keep an eye on him.

Once you're away from the stench of melted ogre, take a seat and get some fresh air. You'll be able to think a bit better then, and can more fluently talk with the Kobold. It would be a good chance to ask if he is alright, or if he has any friends who need help as well. Just because he's your slave doesn't mean you don't care about his well-being, at least for the time being. Until you get more minions, slaves, or assistants, you'll need what you can get.

try and get the bold away from ogre puddle

1/2 Justacritic 2014/03/23(Sun)09:56 No. 567463 ID: 9ec1aa
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>>567446
I am careful! I donno strangely enough that knife always gets spilled on somehow. I don't use it to prepare my mixtures and even with all the poisons and stuff on it, its still sharp. I haven't thrown it out because it looks cool and might be useful. I got it from a weasel, strange man always had his eyes closed and smiling.

>>567445
I didn't cut my self and I think it's just the fumes anyway.

Kobold: "Please don't hurt me mister!"

2/2 Justacritic 2014/03/23(Sun)09:57 No. 567464 ID: 9ec1aa
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"What was that doing here?"

Kobold: "Ummm we're at war mister, Ogres want to move in, I had to watch here. Please don't melt me."

What now diary?

>>567464
"We," the Kobold says. He has friends.
Dear Author, it seems the Kobold either respects you or fears you. I would recommend taking advantage of that, but make sure you don't push him too far or he'll try to rebel. If you can help out the village, you may be able to get some goods, and maybe some voluntary recruits.

hmm, those could work to our favor. If we could deal with the ogres the kobolds might be more welling to aid us in our quest. Ask the kobold where he and his people are and if he knows where the ogres are.

"i'll cut you a deal, your people help me and i'l help with your ogre problem"

1/2 Justacritic 2014/03/23(Sun)20:23 No. 567547 ID: 9ec1aa
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>>567466
>>567467
>>567470
"Tell me about your little ogre problem... I'll help, I'll take care of it for a price."

I hope this is a good idea diary, my knife may have done something interesting but still I don't know anything about it and one of those clubs look like it hurts.

Kobold:"But but mister, we don't have much"

"Did I ask for money? No, what I want is all of your... help."

Kobold:"Wha? But but I don't think I can promise you that."

Huh diary what should I do?

2/2 Justacritic 2014/03/23(Sun)20:27 No. 567548 ID: 9ec1aa
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Anyway diary I should find out more about these ogres.

"Well tell me what is your ogre problem like?"

Kobold: "Well we live in this here cave complex for about a few years, mining, hunting and generally being left alone by the nearby towns. We take care of the few people that find us and don't like us. But just a few days ago these ogres moved in from deeper in the caves and took up living here. It got bad when they started raiding not outside but inside as well. We tried fighting but, we're much too small to do much. The camp send us out to watch for ogres and give warnings."

Hmm so what's the course of action diary?

Dear Author, tell that Kobold to relax and calm down. You're not here to hurt him, and as for a reward, you can always figure something out afterwards.
Don't say this aloud, but even if the Kobolds can't offer you help of any sort, even being able to ransack the ogre's village will help get you some useful supplies.

the ogres have to have a water supple nearby right? think we could simply poison it and let father time finish our work?

>>567550
problem is in a cave, all water is groundwater. high chance the bolds drink from the same system.

>>567556
not holding my breath but I'm hoping it's an underground river or something, never hurts to know your options after all.

1/2 Justacritic 2014/03/25(Tue)21:16 No. 567693 ID: 9ec1aa
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>>567549
"Calm down will you? Ev'ry ing going to be fine. I'll knock down those ogres first then we'll talk about what stuff you can do fo me"

2/2 Justacritic 2014/03/25(Tue)21:19 No. 567694 ID: 9ec1aa
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>>567557
>>567550
>>567556
"So ah, where does everybody get their water?"

Kobold: "There's a river down. Wait, wait you can't put something in there! We drink from it!!!" Ah the little guy whimpering and curling up after he said that diary. So what should I go with? Poisoning the river's easy and there's always different types of nasty liquids or powders I could use. Might be best to have a gel that spreads though. But I trust you diary have a good idea.

ask if his village is down river or up river from this spot? if it's up river (the opposite way the water is flowing) it won't effect him or his village in the slightest, if it's down river then this won't even reach the ogre camp anyways since the bold's camp and the ogre's camp are in opposite directions and we'd simply wast poison.

>>567694
Dear Author, keep in mind, we do want the Kobolds help. If we must poison the water supply, we must also ready enough antidote for the whole Kobold population. That wouldn't be very cost effective, unless a little antidote goes a long way.

See if there's anything you can do about the ogre corpse. If there are any portions that look untainted, you can study it to see if there's anything you could do that would harm ogres, but not Kobolds; this may also require knowledge of Kobold blood, you could always check with the village for both a sample of their blood and the ogre's, if necessary.

If their biologies are too similar to do so, at least you'll be able to learn more options in the progress.

Justacritic 2014/03/26(Wed)19:15 No. 567750 ID: 9ec1aa
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>>567697
"Is your camp upstream or downstream from the river to the ogres?"
Kobold: "Ah no, we're upstream to the ogres but please don't put things in the water"

>>567698
Also Diary it might take a while, it all depends on what poison I'm using" I take a stick and poke at the dead ogre, the green stuff smells weird, almost sweet or was it sour? It looks like the ogre is minerel life. There are several poisons that only affect them since kobolds are fleshy tissue. But I took some ogre flesh, used some poison handling clothes to do it, sad that I have to leave it here. I've got a bottle for it. So I could do more research on kobolds and ogres to see if poisoning the river would work or I could try something like directly offing the ogres but that's scary or we could help the kobolds in fighting their war. The kobold doesn't seem to want my things in the water, and ogres are big. What to, diary?

well they seem really against this poison the river thing so lets see what our other options are first, I mean this was simply the first thing that came up and we really haven't look at anything else yet so lets go exploring a bit, if we run into trouble we can always just go invisible and then poison backstab the hell out of any threats. Plus if you're thinking of moving in then you're also getting the lay of the land down.

Dear Author, this line's suggestion to pay a visit to the Kobold's village still stands. More than just gathering information on the Kobolds, you can potentially find a way to work the critters themselves into the plan, perhaps some method of forming them into an army or something.

1/2 Justacritic 2014/03/29(Sat)13:48 No. 568004 ID: a787ef
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>>567751
>>567765

“Kay then, take me to your camp!”

Kobold:“Wha but, but”

“Don’t you want the ogres out? If you don’t want me to drug the water I need to find out what else you don’t want me to do.”

Kobold: “I just can’t do that!”

“Why not?”

Kobold: “Because, because....”

“So you don’t have a reason to not take me there and I can help you with your ogre problem.”

Kobold: “Okay...”

2/2 Justacritic 2014/03/29(Sat)13:52 No. 568005 ID: a787ef
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Kobold: "So here it is our camp."

"Very big for a camp. How many kobolds are there here?"

Kobold: "I can't tell you that..."

It's a very big cave diary but now the kobold after taking me here doesn't want to talk much now

"So how do you want me to help you with your ogre problem. Who should I talk to?"

Kobold: "Um the camp guards..."

So what about it diary? Should I go look for these camp guards? Press this kobold for more info? Maybe get this kobold to do more than he has already?

bring the bold with you to the guards. say you don't know where they are so you need a guide.

>>568007
Yes, although this Kobold seems hesitant about showing his trust in you to his comrades, you do certainly want to appear to be at least somewhat trusted. His presence will help alleviate the reactions of the guards, most likely.

well we're mostly just trying to see what we have to work with truth be told but we still have the backup plan of poisoning the river should we run out of options. Besides if things get bad we can always just go invisible and scram so if we can get some resources/allies from these guys I say we should at least try it out.

1/2 Justacritic 2014/03/31(Mon)19:50 No. 568235 ID: a787ef
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>>568007
>>568011
>>568036
"Well take me to the kobold who leads the guards then."

Kobold: "Wah but.."

"I have to talk to somebody who knows what they are doing. Then again I could go with the water plan."

Kobold: "Noo! Okay I'll take you."

So diary the kobold took me through the camp. There were some kobolds looking at us but I think since this kobold was a guard, there wasn't anybody asking questions. Then we saw a bigger kobold.

Bigger Kobold:"Reepus what in Chee are you doing? You're supposed to be the border fork! Who are you bringing in here!?"

Reepus: "Commander Blanck! Ummm this here saved me from an ogre attack. He wants to help take care of the ogres for us but he wants to talk to somebody important or else he's going to mess up the water!"

The kobold called Blanck looks serious and glares at me diary, but I just make sure my knives are in reach. It takes a while but he nods.

Commander Blanck:"Alright you, I'll take you to the camp chief. You can talk there, but one wrong step from you will get one sharp thrust from me!"

2/2 Justacritic 2014/03/31(Mon)19:56 No. 568236 ID: a787ef
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So I follow Blanck diary, through the camp caverns, the kobold makes sure to keep an eye on me. Still I don't have Master Stealth for nothing so it's hard for him to hear me walk. He has to keep looking back at me every few seconds. Finally we go in a cave that looks cleaner and well lit. More nice things in it too.

Commander Blanck: "Chief Erelee, Reepus brought back someone. Saved him from one of those rockheads." He looked at me sideways. "Said he wants to help us with our boulder problem."

This chief doesn't look too trusting.

Chief Erelee: "Okay... Who are you? First of all and why are you here? I don't think that somebody would come all the way here to get in the middle of a war between what 'people' call monsters."

What should I say Diary? Oh diary, I know I'm not that all good with keeping things straight especially my name since I don't use it all that much recently. What was I named again?

simple, you need help with something. the war is just an opportunity. you can pay for their help by getting rid of the ogres, simple as that.

Eh, no need to tell them we're planning on setting up shop here. Just say we were planning to explore the cave to see what we could see but stumbled onto this whole war thing, and having giants swinging clubs at you while trying to explore does make exploring more difficult so if we can deal with this sooner rather then later that means we get to explore sooner rather then later. That and if the giants came this far who's to say they won't leave the cave and attack our home next. The way I see it we're probably never going to be in a better position to deal with this problem so we might as well deal with it now instead of waiting for it to come around and bit me in the ass later.(they don't trust you so might as well make this sound a little selfish so they'll be more likely to believe us)

Oh and your name is Justin. Seriously author you need to remember these things, remember the last time you lost us and forgot where you lived. It's what finally lead to your parents letting your grandpa take you out on his many camping trips.

>>568236
Dear Author, something along the following lines should work. "You may be referred to as monsters by some people, but it is obvious you are civilized. I am trying to set it up so that races like you Kobolds can be recognized as people, too, but I will need your help." Understand, that if they agree to help you, it will mean they are one of your armies--An army who deserves to be treated with fear and respect. This is close enough to being people. "I was hoping that if I helped you with the ogre problem, you'd join me, or at least offer me some help. But... Even if you cannot help me, I'm sure I'll be able to get something useful from the ogre camp once they're defeated."
Yes, you definitely do want the Kobold's help, especially for them to join with you, but you need them to feel they can trust you more for that. Now that you're at their leader, you can put the idea that you don't need them to repay you so they'll trust you more.

>>568238
>(they don't trust you so might as well make this sound a little selfish so they'll be more likely to believe us)
Actually, this may be a good idea. Still, compliment them on how they seem to be civilized enough that they should be considered people, too.

1/2 Justacritic 2014/04/08(Tue)20:35 No. 569814 ID: 321cf6
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>>568238
“I’m Justin! Here because I wanted to see what was in this cave but got caught up in this war of yours. And well ogres going around smashing things ends up with people coming in to kill everyone anyway. And well I’d like to put a stop to that because people are wondering outside who is destroying their buildings. ”

>>568243
>>568245
“Besides you may be referred to as monsters by some people, but it is obvious you are civilized. I was hoping that you’ll let me explore more in here. And if the ogres are taken care of sooner than later, I get to back exploring because I also don’t want to deal with ogres when I’m wandering in here. ”

2/2 Justacritic 2014/04/08(Tue)20:37 No. 569815 ID: 321cf6
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The chief looks at me warily diary but seems to approve. "Alright, we'll have you helping us because we've been in a stalemate for several days now." The chief points to a table with some sort of leather and some stones on it. "This is our current situation."

Diary what sort of questions should I ask or should I just move onto the ogres, ask for some sort of assistance or what?

do you have any poisons you KNOW will kill ogres really fast? offer to add it to some of their spears, this will allow the ones using those spears to simply hit anywhere on the ogre's body and still kill it, no need to get any weak spot hits. drawing blood on it's ankle would be enough.

well if I'm reading this right the kobolds (the ones in the top left right?) have numbers on there side and since they've been here longer are better entrenched then the ogres who only just set up shop so aren't as well entrenched and since they've set up camp in a small cavern then the kobolds then I'm guessing they have less numbers on there side as well. But they're ogres so what they lack in numbers they make up in pure brute strength. this map doesn't really give much information so ask what they know about ogre troop movement, where they'd keep the food supplies (still hoping to poison something at some point), hell if we have some acids on us and this cave has the right type of rocks we could maybe cause a cave in and trap the ogres.

>>569860
Knowing Ogres, they could probably just eat the rocks or something. A cavein would not help much.
Figuring out a venom that would work on the ogres but be (mostly) harmless to the Kobolds would certainly be a good idea. You don't want to do all the work, after all.

Justacritic 2014/05/24(Sat)17:19 No. 575669 ID: fbb0cf
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>>569853
>>569860
>>569875
Well after much research, a lot of the poisons that would kill an ogre stone dead, well they target organics as well. There is one idea you gave me diary. Coating the kobolds' weapons with poison and one that can give a quick kill with a small dose. Ogres have a brain with lots of this metalish thing called silicon. I've read that if this brain gets exposed to air then the ogre's brain doesn't work and it dies. Do you think this would be the best poison to use?

Anyway diary I asked them more about the map and the lines and circles, they say are the paths and caves in this place. The kobolds are one the upper left and the ogres on the bottom right, the big stones equal ten people and the little ones a single person. Mostly it has been a small group of ogres that come in and try to kill the kobolds. The kobolds have been keeping them away with traps and hiding, but they say it won't be long before the ogres as dumb as they are would find the kobolds.

So should I give poisons to the kobolds? Attack the ogres with something else or try to find out more?

(Well I'm back, had to take a break due to school and searching for work but now I have the time to get back to this quest. Sorry for the wait)

hold back on the poison for now. I'd like us to get to a point were we can be sure that the kobolds simply won't stab us in the back as soon as we deal with there ogre problem. see if you can't get a small group or hell even just a guide to help you make your way to the ogre base camp just so we can get a better idea on what we're up against. we can turn invisible so I'm not to worried about being spotted.

>>575687
Turning invisible is a good idea. Let's sneak around and see what we're up against