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87374 No. 87374 ID: 0aa30d

I'm going to open a discussion thread for two motives:

1) Considering the current state, i feel it could be helpful explaining or answer questions that might be meta-related, like the natural abilities that a Ranidae possesses or how the magic works in the world, etc, so to keep the quest fluid.

2) Since this is my first quest ever i wanted to know your opinions, critiques or advices on and for it! I'd really appreciate any input to make it better.
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No. 92701 ID: b5b419

>>92259
Yeah, he does look a lot younger and more handsome then you.

You're just a fish.
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No. 92705 ID: 9db9b9
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>>92701
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No. 92721 ID: 742b4a

>>92705
How does that body even work? Is it a golem, mind-linked with the fish body?
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No. 92725 ID: 2b13be
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Here are a reference image an size comparison of the other three available Companions in FrogQuest
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No. 92727 ID: 2b13be
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>>92721
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No. 92760 ID: b5b419

>>92705
Normal fish don't have teeth.
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No. 92761 ID: 153bce
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92761

>>92760
What are you talking about?
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No. 92764 ID: d40f6c
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>>92760
Looks perfectly normal to me.
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No. 92887 ID: ea0ad9

Added fanart segment to the wiki page.
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No. 92891 ID: 5e0017

>>92887
Thank you!
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No. 92948 ID: 601391

attention please: I have to take a rather long break. Frogquest and GR will be on hiatus till I can get back to them in probably two or three weeks. I'll resume updating as soon as I can.
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No. 92957 ID: e114bc

>>92948
Aww.
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93673

off from the hiatus, and the exams. Time to get back to the quests.

have a little doodle done during my pauses.
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this is only the beginning of the horrors that await us.
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No. 96994 ID: 5ea852

Question: What is the natural Orc state of being? Are they civilised through assimilation or do they have their own separate civilisation?
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No. 97013 ID: 6f30b4
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97013

>>96994

Orcs in the world of FrogQuest/Weirdling Saga are mostly civilized.

They used to be divided in several tribes and clan and live in secluded lands or mountains and they would raid the other populations for iron, food and women.

Despite multiple efforts, orcs were impossible to extinguish as a race, so they were invited to join most populations, first as mercenaries, later as actual soldier and citizens.

In particular, during the time of Weirdling Saga, the orc population of Gund was rather big. Many orcs were part of the army of the King Peregros, and even the royal guard and the high commander were orcs.
Other orcs, through civilization, have discovered new interests and jobs, many became smiths and jewelers, and few even became writers (one of them is the author of the book Masha was reading at the beginning of the quest, "the incredible adventures of Har Vey the Pugventurer" ).

Despite being integrated, most orc still mantain some costumes from their old days. Ritualistic tatoos, the use of a nose ring made of a specific metal to represents the clans and families, and the orcish language.
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No. 97019 ID: 5ea852

>>97013
Are these writers publicly known as Orcs and respected or do they have to hide behind pseudonyms like women used to have in our world?
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No. 97036 ID: 01c11d

>>97019
They are publicly known as orcs. Only few old-fashioned orcs shun the idea of a orc dealing in non-belligerant activities.
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No. 98702 ID: bb78f2

So I was watching a dark souls LP and just realized that Seathe's Sorcerer Scholar dudes with the trident staff have six googaly eyes for helmets.

Just like OUR little cloner alchemist wizard. And he seems to know about dragons and eggs?

And did you know Seath was a dragon that betrayed his own kind in Dark Souls Lore because of his differences? Coincidence?

Hmmm.
HMMMM.
Yeah, probably. Cool connection though.
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No. 98707 ID: acbb46

>>98702

And let's not forget that those sorcerers used tridents as weapon and catalysts. mmmmmmmmmmh.

On a more serious note, the design for the alchemist was based off a really old anime character that i used to love when i was a kid https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FbZjjm9Cofo/hqdefault.jpg
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No. 98712 ID: bb78f2

I never knew The Claw had four eyes!
Wait, there's an inspector gadget anime?
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No. 98713 ID: e58ab2

>>98712

The anime is called Fantaman, no Inspector gadget relations ahah
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No. 101796 ID: 9fdb37

>>97013
Is it me or do all Orc characters seem to be kind of sleazy and/or dishonest?

Is this intentional or are we yet to see some more...personable Orcs?
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No. 101798 ID: b7883c

>>101796
That orc merchant with the amulets was honest enough, and reacted reasonably to Masha telling him one of his amulets was cursed.
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No. 101825 ID: d75d44

>>101796
>>101798

You have to consider that Hugo is litterally the high priest of a god that is called "Laughing Bastard" for a reason.

As pointed out, when the merchant found out that his items were cursed was actually going to take it off the shelves instead of trying to pawn it off.

>>92725

As an example of decent orcs, one of the possible companions for Flycatcher was a orc with a really strong sense of friendship, honor and respect for others, despite the fact that he is an alcoholic.
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No. 101899 ID: 9fdb37

>>101825
I thought that bastard part referred to the god's parentage, not to his character.
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No. 101903 ID: 4854ef

>>101899
This is the same god that threw a boat onto three gods as part of his victory, along with a few other tales it's likely he might not be the most 'personable' of characters.
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No. 109287 ID: 30bdb5
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A picture of Har Vey the Pugventurer, protagonis of "the incredible adventures of Har Vey the Pugventurer" which is the only book Masha has ever own in her life.
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No. 109288 ID: 9f3729

overanalyzing but man, he must be one heck of an adventurer to be able to overcome his natural faults as a pug
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No. 109289 ID: 6cbace

>>109288
only because all known fighting styles does not account for a small target.
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No. 109290 ID: 30bdb5

>>109288
>>109289

It also helps a lot that he is a fictional romance character
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No. 109291 ID: 30bdb5
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109291

Also friendly reminder that Masha is still a teenager so Har Vey was 100% her first fictional crush
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No. 109308 ID: 9f3729

>>109291
"his dick is most DEFINITELY not proportional!"
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No. 109315 ID: 9876c4

>>109308
It looks like it belongs on a hamster!
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No. 109326 ID: bb78f2

>>109287
Geez I know her guadian saved her life and shit to make up for feeling guilty about his own weirdling kid but he could have bought her more than a single book for her whole life

Dwarf or not, that's cheap man, especially for your surrogate daughter you're using to avoid your guilt
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No. 109347 ID: 37a7f4

>>109326

There is a good reason for that. He did save her out of guilt but he also realized he was doomed to lose her again anyway, so he really tried to not get tried to not get too close to her after realizing what he actually did.
It still doesn't excuses his way of acting, since most of his life was dictated by paranoia and selfishness.


and yet the whole thing is still better than what you'd have gotten by choosing the "Brawler" background during character creation.
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No. 109350 ID: 398fe1

I am really tired of fighting the inquisitor.
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No. 109352 ID: 37a7f4

>>109350
Good!
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No. 109417 ID: d1d42a

I rather disappointing by how things have turned out
all that work for nothing
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No. 110516 ID: 398fe1

I gotta say this plot twist is really fucking stupid. Are we supposed to believe that NOBODY looked under the mask of the alchemist that was trusted with producing potions for the entire town? Nobody looked into his past, or checked to see that he was trustworthy and not a fucking DEMON?

There's also the fact that the method in which the town was turned into demons flies in the face of everything we know about possession. You have to do a ritual in order to bring the soul of the demon from the other side. It's not fucking ALCHEMY.
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No. 110517 ID: 398fe1

Oh right and you were obviously railroading it so that we couldn't kill him, either. We tried to kill him three times and it was just "nope he didn't get hurt" or "whoops your hand burst into a claw before you could do anything".
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No. 110518 ID: 398fe1

>>92088
Also look at this! That's not an Infestor, it's a Fetcher.
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No. 110519 ID: aa703d

>>110516
>>110517
>>110518

Alright. First of all thanks for the feedback. Let me answer a couple of things.

>I gotta say this plot twist is really fucking stupid. Are we supposed to believe that NOBODY looked under the mask of the alchemist that was trusted with producing potions for the entire town? Nobody looked into his past, or checked to see that he was trustworthy and not a fucking DEMON?

Charred One came under the protection and the orders of the high hierarchy of the Unquenchable Flame. He basically outranked everyone aside Ludwig, which has been shown to be the kind of guy that trust his own church. He also lived inside the buildings that the church owns so he really didn't have many contacts with the rest of the city, that was happy enough to get free stuffs without really checking where they come from.

>There's also the fact that the method in which the town was turned into demons flies in the face of everything we know about possession. You have to do a ritual in order to bring the soul of the demon from the other side. It's not fucking ALCHEMY.

>>92258

You might referring to Demon-binding. Which is the direct way to pull a demon from the other side and bind it to your will.

The point is for demons is that they need a crack in the barrier and corpses to possess which is really difficult for them to do (or else the world would be swarming with demons). The final part of the update should show why Charred One might know a couple of things on how to get around those points somehow.

>Oh right and you were obviously railroading it so that we couldn't kill him, either. We tried to kill him three times and it was just "nope he didn't get hurt" or "whoops your hand burst into a claw before you could do anything".

Ok, here i have to agree on the 3 times, and disagree on not being able to kill him.
Choosing to remove his mask gave him the opportunity to throw the concoction and help Infester pass through. There was a reason why Ludwig didn't turn outright. The goblin/succubus hinted something.
I had the problem of milking the updates because i wanted to show the transformation a but i found myself unable to realistically draw the correct amount of pics. Ending up fucking the pacing of the updates (in a similar fashion to Weirdling Saga chase). I am juggling different things in my life at the moment and it realistically ended up to the point where updating and following multiple quests make me commit a lot of mistake in terms of pacing. I apologize wholeheartedly on that point, and i will try to see if i can find a way to fix my pacing better in story-heavy quests. Consider the fact that this "intermission" started over a year ago and between hiatus due to family, college and other stuff i wasn't able to keep up like i used with the other three chapter that had consistent updates. Which i think is the problem for both me and readers.

>Also look at this! That's not an Infestor, it's a Fetcher.

I'm gonna paste the same thing i said on /quest.
Because it is.

Like Charred One said it: "Not what. Who. Infester. One of the primordial ones! Demons weren't always savage! The oldest ones were cunning and powerful. Infester, Usurper, Devourer and Betrayer... The progenitors of all demons."

It isn't just a fetcher, It is the First Fetcher.


Again. Thanks for the feedback and sorry for the milked updates. I swear i will find a way to fix that mental problem i'm having.
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No. 110523 ID: 1226ae

I'm not worried about the Demon Apocalypse. Demons are a load of chumps. I'd put them on a level about as threatening as zombies that breathe fire: Dangerous, but easily dealt with out in the open. Even Fetcher was easy to divert. We now know why they need an order of paladins to unknowingly help them doom entire cities: They're not really good at fighting and tend to assume they can just tank everything because "HAH I'M A DEMON I'M INVINCIBLE!" That and the majority of them are braindead. Now we just need to find that stupid candle and throw it into the ocean like they should have done LAST time there was a brutal and pointless war that slaughtered countless innocent dragon-worshipers.
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No. 110524 ID: 1226ae

Also, one more thing! Before anyone tries to figure out 'what good could possibly justify genocide and unleashing a horde of flesh devouring demons who murder everyone in their path to make more demons', the answer is 'nothing'. No good can justify this. Even if their reasoning is 'the world will literally blow up if we don't get that egg', which it won't, you cannot justify the butchering of innocents on a grand scale.

Also, the real reason for all this is probably that the Primal Demons had their brood's sapience taken away by the dragons, so the Flame, which is a Demon manifesting in an odd way, is trying to exterminate all dragons and everyone who knows about them so it can forcibly manifest demons in the physical world, devouring all the mortals and dragonspawn and starting an era wherein demons are the only thinking beings kept alive, with all other life relegated as cattle to supply them with corpses.
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No. 110536 ID: 188451

Eh, I'm alright with how it went. You had decent enough reasons for why ludwig didn't suspect the dude of being evil, (we only managed a few in-character ones before the reveal, and while they would make me watch the dude it wouldn't make me outright hostile to the guy) and I *never* would have guessed the dude was a demon so I would have taken similar steps as ludwig.(I personally would never have taken the potions he offered though. Drugs/potions should never be a normal/every day thing)

I'm personally not the biggest fan of the 'mook that we killed has come back as a boss' thing, but I can accept it as a story choice. You can make it work from a lore/backround standpoint, it just clicks a bit wrong with my personal tastes.

>>110524
I agree with the top part 100%

>fix that mental problem i'm having
Ah, I hope things end up working out for you?
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No. 110540 ID: 398fe1

>>110524
I think the Flame is a fire dragon and the demons are its immortal servant constructs.
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No. 110545 ID: 48237d

As a narrative I understand why would you want to preserve an antagonist like the Charred One. He deceived, manipulated and were directly responsible for a massacre, making him someone we can't avoid hating. The Infester is the kind of opponent we fear, the Charred One is the kind we wish to punish.
In universe the wisest action would be kill him as fast as possible, but I understand Ludwig wasn't the smartest character and until the end wanted to believe the alchemist to be a liar.

The revelation that the Charred One was a Ranidae had some interesting implications that were lost with the revelation that he is possessed. Unless I'm misunderstanding the situation and the frog and the demon inside him are two separate entities.
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No. 110568 ID: 398fe1

>>110545
Gnuk said he disagreed about Ludwig not killing the Charred One, which implies that he did die. It was somewhat unclear in the update; for all we knew the Charred One pulled some super-strong healing potion out of his sack and downed it after Infestor took its claw out of his gut.
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A Secretary Bird Faelkin.
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