>>/quest/635976
Pixie-butt! Sydney clothes sure are popular.

I didn't realize the cutaway was an actual tattoo. I thought it was just stylization in the thigh day pic.

Apollo 2015/04/23(Thu)23:01 No. 90536 ID: defceb
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>>90514
110% canon! Why does she have them? I'll never tell! (But she might.)

Also the Red Giant themed undies are too fun to draw. I can't stop. Save me.

>>90536
sigh, ok. not that it's hard to figure out but, >>90545

Holy crap, this quest is like sci-fi Twin Peaks with time travel.

A lot of the story is rather confusing but I really dig what you're doing with the visual/memory mindfucks, Apollo.

>>/quest/646353
I really like it that Marie went with an appeal to history argument. She's lived long enough to have seen the trends she's talking about firsthand, probably in more than one iteration.

>>/quest/647785
"No! We must stop the hackers" they shouted
The radio said "No, /quest/. You are the hackers"
And then Marie was run by Unix.

>>91860
I just had a good laugh from this one.
Thank you.

Yeah the quest is turning out to be a competition between hackers- us, and whoever's corrupting the facility. The facility hackers have the advantage because they know what they're doing, but Marie seems resistant to anything but our suggestions so there's that.

So, I was thinking that Marie needs coolant because pushing her systems- especially using super strength and speed, generates heat. But without a radiator or something to exchange heat, that only helps to a certain extent. Circulating blood-coolant will only serve to slow down a failure, make her heat up more uniformly instead of at at points.

At which point I realized Marie's ears have an actual, functional purpose! They're cooling fins! She's a rabbit!

Which would actually give her a small performance advantage over an otherwise comparable android-body model. Downside is if she's circulating coolant through the ears they're an easy target to damage and cause a leak.

Now hold on a doggone minute!
>"Uplift Machine" doesn't sound much like a device to transfer a brain to a cybernetic body, but more akin to straight mind-uploading
>'We' (the voices in Marie's head) appear to to be the former residents of this facility
>Marie's brain is chock-full of a massive amount of data
Maria is acting as a data-lifeboat for the facility's former residents.

Man, we went into this encounter fully functional for like the first time since thread 1, and we still got our ass kicked.

Poor Marie. I can't help but feel like we completely failed to leverage her strengths correctly.

>>/quest/657143
Honestly, I'm far from sold on that theory. Of course, it could all be inside a simulation (that's one of those things there's no way to disprove), but there's nowhere near enough evidence that can't be explained any other ways to convince me, yet.

Yes, the room thing was weird as all fuck, but that could have just as easily been accomplished by collapsing / destroying that side of the room, perception hacking it weird, and perception hacking Liz's response to confirm what we saw (and/or Liz being untrustworthy or in on it). Or simply Liz interpreting "is half the room gone" as "is half the room collapsed" and answering "yes". We checked to see if she saw the same thing, but the wording wasn't unambiguous, and Marie was too panicked to compare notes in detail.

Granted, at some point something messing with your senses and being in a simulation become the same thing. The question is if there's a 'real' layer being interacted with. I kind of prefer to assume there is, until proven otherwise. It's dangerous to assume there aren't consequences when there might be. (As we've proven several times).

And really, I don't buy it because so much more could have been done to us if this were entirely a simulation. Things have largely been too constrained, too internally consistent. The spooky stuff has really been holding back if we're in a malleable virtual reality.

>>92268
You sneaky bug.

>>93313
>perception hacking Liz
She's organic.

”Is half the room missing?” seems pretty unambiguous to me.

>>92268
*looks at timestamp*
Uh. Should I take this to mean the giant staticbeast put it here, or are you just showing off the poster?

>>93326
>perception hacking Liz
>She's organic.
That what I meant. Perception hacking that which Marie heard Liz say, and/or what Marie saw in the room. (The flashbacks prove vision isn't the only sense that can be spoofed- there's audio). That doesn't require compromising organic-Liz at all.

(Although if you're right, and this is a simulation, there's no way to tell if she's real or just an npc in the environment, in which case she'd be as hackable as the rest of it).

>”Is half the room missing?” seems pretty unambiguous to me.
Not without context. If you walk into a room, see half of it collapsed or fallen though the floor, and someone asks you if half the room is missing, the reasonable answer is yes. You don't say no unless you're being a rigorous pedant (no, it's not missing, it fell bellow somewhere!) or unless you have the context to understand "missing" means "erased from existence like part of the paper of reality torn off". Neither of which necessarily fit Liz.

My point is, the missing room is not, by itself, only explicable by simulation. It's a candidate explanation, but perception hacking in an existing facility still works. (And then there's the not unreasonable conclusion that Marie isn't being hacked so much as she's slowly falling apart or going insane, which is practically the same as perception hacking, except there isn't an easy agency behind the hallucinations we could theoretically confront).

I just don't like locking into explanations when there's insufficient evidence to rule others out.

>>93327
It's certainly a weird showing off, since he saged it not to be immediately noticed.

>>93329
tl;dr version:

The missing room is weak evidence for a simulation. I'm still going to consider multiple models until I get strong evidence for one of them.

>>/quest/656915
>>/quest/656916
>You turn around and inspect the mural directly, finding it to be exactly like what you saw in the mirror.
Am I missing something? These look nothing like each other and nobody's commented on that...

>>93357
Is that the first time you've noticed that Marie can't see certain things properly?

Heck, it's happening more frequently now.

>>93357
>no one commented on it looking different
>>/quest/656963 did.

But yeah, it's not the first time we've seen something she hasn't.

>>93365
No, which is why I asked.
>>93368
Oops, I somehow missed that suggestion. Maybe I'm being perception-hacked.

Also I'd like to point out that I love Marie's outstretched ears on the radio logo.

Some of the suggestions right now remind me of this: >>93382

>>93745
I'd say we're more running into the opposite problem: defaulting to terminal violence as soon as we're challenged or betrayed. (Also a pattern /quest/ falls prey to pretty frequently. We don't like being crossed).

The complicating factors here are that pretty much every time Marie's defaulted to violence it's gone badly, usually resulting in literally losing parts of ourself (we keep thinking Marie is a big strong robot with all the advantages that entails, only to find out the other guy is a big strong robot too, or we get tricked into smacking the wrong people (well, except 'Rudy' was the right person, it turns out)).

We're either looking at a situation where he has some means to kick our ass we haven't seen yet (a weapon, or hidden cyborg stuff), or where we're being bated into killing someone who's half-dead already (and which will probably be recorded on invisible cameras and shown to others out of context). The problem is we don't know which.

>>93747
Well okay, but talking without even trying to restrain him doesn't resolve any of those potential problems.

Well, good job guys. There's a nice hole in Marie's chest now.

maybe I've been not following this as closely as I should but I almost wonder if it's more...
Less 'right answer' and more 'we're the protagonist, whatever we do.'...That said, it's certainly seems like there's danger all over and the 'crazy' that comes of all the hacking-based hallocinations doesn't help!

>>93750
We were talking while actively reaching for something to throw as a ranged weapon, and then he shot us practically faster than we could blink. "Trying to restrain him" would require charging him head on, which would give him even more chance to shoot us.

Really neither talking nor fighting seem to be working out for us very well. In this particular instance the only option I can think of that would not get us shot would be to hide and either incapacitate him before he saw us or avoid him entirely. When even people without fancy mechanical limbs are still faster than us and able to kick our ass we should maybe try for stealth as default.

The correct option was to ambush him instead of talking to him at all. I mean seriously, we knew he was a murderer, he had bloody sleeves, and his hands were off-panel, implying he was armed. Connect the fucking dots.

>>/quest/660490
Oh, so we should just not do anything while the murderer comes in and shoots us? We didn't even start fighting, dumbass. Oh, also, we did win that fight against the robot we found after meeting Liz. Marie took superficial damage.

The first fight sortof worked. Marie got a spike stuck in her, but we were doing fine until then. The other times Marie got injured were: running away from the redeye in the elevator, and walking straight into a trap by pushing that fucking button. Hey it looks like fighting isn't the fucking problem!

Oh right and running away only works if there's somewhere to run TO. He was blocking our escape! Or did you want to talk him down, and mimic the image YOU fucking posted in the quest advice thread?

>Oh, so we should just not do anything while the murderer comes in and shoots us? We didn't even start fighting, dumbass.
We did start fighting. We tried to draw a weapon on him when we could tell he was armed and confident, and got shot for it In that moment, the choice was (largely) between stalling non-action looking for an opportunity before he acted, or attempting action and hoping it beat him to the punch.

(The majority here was for trying something, even if what, and the lethality, was all over the place).

>The correct option was to ambush him
Prior to stepping out of cover, I think you'll find even those who wanted to talk wanted that. People suggested getting behind him, and by the door, not to step out in front. Talking or fighting from a position of strength is more preferable than not. Diiiidn't happen, though. (Either Marie didn't wait for him to move from the door, or we were asking to do something that just wasn't gonna happen).

>Or did you want to talk him down
I... don't think anyone implied we were going to be able to talk him down? Trying to prompt him into saying something that might provide answers/clues or help understand the insanity maybe, and/or stalling after that.

That, and there was a certain reluctance to strait up murder someone on some player's parts before we were sure he was a real threat. (Not an idle concern considering we've been tricked by hallucinations before, and that Marie's psychological condition and mental state is a reoccurring issue, that well might end up being more important than her physical condition. Especially if this is a sim, or if falling prey to the same madness that took the drones is a possibility). We underestimated him- there was the expectation that he was either unaugmented, or that he would bring the static to bear, or that he would have secret cyborg stuff after all. All things we've faced before. I don't think anyone was expecting him to be packing a handgun that could put a five inch diameter through and through hole in metal in a single shot. Or for him to be able to draw and fire from within, what, 3 meters max, when we supposedly had cyborg speed to close with?

>Oh, also, we did win that fight against the robot we found after meeting Liz. Marie took superficial damage.
In my book, a two-person surprise ambush on a single target that ends with you pinned and getting half your face burnt off is a big screwup. We started with a tactical advantage and ended with a strait up slug fest we won by being more durable. Not impressive or well executed.

>Hey it looks like fighting isn't the fucking problem!
More generally, I would say it's largely overconfidence. We repeatedly overestimate Marie's capabilities (which yes, does include combat prowess), and underestimate our foes. We continually expect to be stronger, faster, or tougher than things, and keep getting hurt for it.

>>93786
>tried to draw a weapon on him
I think if you reread what happened you'll see the problem was that Marie took her eyes off of him for a second. The problem wasn't trying to fight, the problem was trying to throw a goddamn ashtray instead of getting in his face and then being able to restrain him. He was like three feet away. Anyone can cover that distance in less than a second.

But hey, if most people were in favor of ambushing him a little, then I guess the real problem is railroading!

>>93788
I more meant that the action Marie took (attempting to grab a weapon) was starting fighting.

But yes, I would agree that of the several proposed plans of attack, throwing the ashtray was inferior to just closing, especially considering how close we were.

The action was not merely "attempt to grab a weapon", but "attempt to grab a weapon while hiding this fact".

That is to say, attempt to delay the hostilities starting until we were armed too.

Good news is, some of *today's* computers can function without a cooling system if they keep their cpu usage low enough. Case in point: smartphones.

Oh hey I just realized, Marie has a spare heart. We picked it up in that trap room.

Marie needs to get a pair of those elbow blades like in Deus Ex

>>93804
Too bad that unlike a smart phone, Marie has a lot of moving parts. When we were low on coolant before it factored into physical exertion- her mechanical systems produce heat, not just her processor.

soooo wtf happened to thread 5?

>>93849
I think it's some meta bullshit. Like Marie was out of commission for so long this time she missed a whole thread.


I'm not having much luck with that last sequence of binary. Two things of note:
It's formatted to be on four lines.
Most of them are 9 digits, not 8.

I can kindof convert it to letters by taking every 9 digit number and removing a 0 at the start, then taking every 8 digit number and switching the fourth 0 to 1. This results in
14 3 20 3 7 14 13 14 7
12 7 15 18 14
13 13 17 13 14 13
23
which is
NCTCGNMG
LGORN
MMQMNM
W

Still seems like nonsense data. I'm not even sure if this is the right direction. It's possible Apollo took some valid binary sequence and changed all the digits in the first half of each number to 0, accidentally adding an extra 0 to most of them. The formatting might even be accidental too.

Apollo, can I get a confirmation that the formatting and digit count is on purpose? It's terrible to try to decode something only to find out the author wrote it down wrong.

It'd also be nice to know that this isn't just random data.

>>93850

The formatting is on purpose and it's not junk data.

Alright I noticed that the binary that translates directly to text always starts with either 0110 or 0111, and most of the time it's 0110 so I used that instead of fiddling with only the fourth digit. I got exactly the same sequence.

Really I just don't know where to go from here. It's not a simple substitution cypher, that's for sure- no word has the same structure as the third sequence of letters, even backwards (which is probably the case since I can't think of any valid sentence that starts with a one-letter word)

Bit counts:
9 9 8 9 9 9 9 9 9 (9 long) 9 9 9 8 9 (5 long) 9 9 8 9 9 9 (6 long) 8 (1 long)

There's only 1 8-bit character(?) per line. I want to guess that means they're significant / distinct from the rest- maybe the key needed to covert the rest into something readable? But I don't have any good ideas as to how, yet.

>>93850
Oops I missed a letter. It's

NCTCGNMNG
LGORN
MMQMNM
W

Okay, looking up the 4 characters that are actually 8-bit, they map to control characters.

00000100 is EOT, End of Transmission.
00000010 is STX, start of text
00000001 is SOH, start of header
00000111 is BEL, which is supposed to ring an electromechanical bell to alert an operator to an incoming message.

This would fit with the message being reversed- rings a bell, gives the header, gives the message, terminates. (Although I don't know why there's data between BEL and the header, or after EOT).

I'm still not sure what to do with the 9-bit stuff.

>>93874
yeah i've got nothing. i was thinking maybe we're supposed to line up the 8bit ones, and tried to go from there but didn't really get anywhere.

The corvid sings no harsher note
A song of woe and wasteful rote
Three for the lies you sold and bought
Three for the holes to stop your heart
Three last gasps of failing breath

010010 010|1| 0110|0 010|0| 010|0| 00101| 10|00 011010 011000 010|01 00101| 010|00 011000 101|1 01110| 0110|1 00101| 010|11 0110|0 010||0 11011 011011 010|0| 010|01 00101| 0101|| 011111 0101|0 010|01 010|0| 0101|1 0110|| 010|1|

>>93938
wtf are you on about, friend?

>>93940
It's a hint to solve the weird binary puzzle.

>>93938
Alright that's strongly implied to be base 3, which is:

84 104 114 101 101 32 99 111 108 100 32 99 108 97 119 115 32 103 114 105 112 112 101 100 32 98 121 96 100 101 97 116 104

Which is: "Three cold claws gripped by`death"
Looks like that ` is a 0101|0 that should be a 00101|.

...I don't see how this helps since the mystery code isn't in base 3? Unless it IS, but just looks like it's in base 2 because the message is weird? I guess I'll try translating it from base 3...

Well just straight up parsing it as base 3 doesn't help.
That gives the first line as
39 4 9 4 13 39 37 39 13
where 9 is the 8-bit number. At this point I can already tell this doesn't match up with anything so I'm not going to bother continuing.

>>93945
Shift -1, reverse it?

>>93946
It doesn't translate to meaningful letters (at least not yet) so you can't do that. I can get some letters out of it by adding 64 to each number and tossing that in a simple converter but the letters don't spell anything. Also they're in mixed case, which is a red flag.

>>93953
perhaps some interaction with the 8 bit ones instead of translating them? adding them before/after the base 3 conversion or after a base 2 conversion maybe? xor? I'm grasping at straws here

>>93850
Wait, sorry how is it formatted to be on 4 lines?

>>94014
If you copy / paste the original message, it comes out in four lines. There's only that many carriage returns.

The board does this auto-formatting thing where it decides how wide the box around a given post needs to be. And since it decided on a width that's not long enough for the first line, it gets text wrapped into two.

Can't figure this out at all.
Thought the base 3-ness would relate to 9 in some way but chopping it up just gives bad numbers and remainders in whatever base you do it in.
Even tried ignoring the 9-ness and just converted the numbers into ternary, just comes out as jibberish.

Whats up with the hint, btw?
A crow (alien?) singing about:
Three for the lies you sold and bought
Three for the holes to stop your heart
Three last gasps of failing breath
Three cold claws gripped by death

>>94023
Aside from hinting to 3s I mean

This structure is so crude and grating
Tune strange and unaccommodating
Everything all switched around
Scarcely enough to make a sound
A cruel mistake to walk that path

00|00011 000|||00 0||0110 00||0110 0|011011 00||0011 00|0110| 0|011011 0||0110 0000|||0 000||000 |011110 00|011|0 0|011011 000|0|11 0||01111 000||0|0 000|0|11 000||0|| 000||000 00|0|11| 0|01100 00|0|11| 0||01111 0|011011 000|0|11 00|||011 00||0110 00|0|11| 0||01111 0|011|11

>>94045
Are those all supposed to be 8 characters long? Some of them are 7. I know last hint there were some padding mistakes, is that the case here?

>>94045
...anyway the poem implies that the digits are mixed up in some way, which means this is legitimately encrypted and I'm NOT going to try to decode it.

The/cor/vid/sings/no/harsh/er/note (8)
A/song/of/woe/and/waste/ful/rote (8)
Three/for/the/lies/you/sold/and/bought (8)
Three/for/the/holes/to/stop/your/heart (8)
Three/last/gasps/of/fail/ing/(bre/ath) (8*)

This/struc/ture/is/so/crude/and/gra/ting (9)
Tune/strange/and/un/a/ccom/mo/dat/ing (9)
Ev/(er/y)/thing/all/switch/ed/a/round (9*)
(Scar/ce)/ly/e/nough/to/make/a/sound (9*)
A/(cru/el)/mis/take/to/walk/that/path (9*)

Each poem appears to have 8 or 9 beats per line, though you have to adopt a sort of breathy exaggerated pronunciation to do it. ("bre-eth" instead of "breth", "ev-er-i" instead of "ev-ree", "scare-seh-lee" instead of "skairs-lee", "ka-rule" instead of "krool").

(If you don't take that liberty, they go 8/8/8/8/7 and 9/9/8/8/8).

I want to guess that means one hint is intended to be relevant to the 8-bit words and one to the 9-bit words, but I'm not sure how to proceed from there.

Okay, so. This has gotten a little out of hand and tbh Chebec even I'm getting confused signals from those poems.

So let's skip the first step.

120-2-100-2-12-210-201-120-12
200-12-112-10-210
201-201-1-201-120-201
111.

I this will be slightly less head-grindy.

>>94062
...
The only pattern I see to reproduce those results does not hold up in every case. I disapprove.

Anyway, now they translate cleanly into 1-26, but it's still not at a stage where it's a simple substitution cipher, even reversed, because of that third line. Unless it's in a foreign language? In that case we'd need some sort of hint as to which foreign language it is. It's certainly not a caesarian shift this time, that's for sure.

For convenience, here's the alphabetical translation of that:
OBIBLUSOE
RENCU
SSASOS
M

>>94062
So... for those of us who were banging our head against it, what was the first step?

>>94065
It looks like you're supposed to merge the adjacent 1s in the 9-length strings, while leaving the 8-length strings as they are. The problem I'm having is that 000001110 corresponds to both 120 and 210, for no apparent reason. It's like it's an arbitrary decision which way to merge it.

I took what Apollo gave us and converted it from base 3 to base 10, and matched that to the alphabet. However, it's almost exactly the same as treating each string as its own symbol.

>merge the adjacent 1s in the 9-length strings
...yeah, I'm not sure what informs you if 000001110 should go to 120 or 210. Also not sure why we don't have similar variability with 000000111 (always 12, never 21). Or what makes 000001111 go 112 and not 211. (Nor 22- I guess we only get one merge max per word?).

If a single sequence has multiple translations, then it must depend on something like adjacent words / bits, or the word's position in the line (relative to start, or to the 8-bit word?) that tells you which to use?

Hmm. Actually, it alternates. The first time 000001110 appears, it translates to 120, the next as 210, the next as 120, etc. (Although who knows how a translator would know which to start with, even if they knew to alternate).

Geeze, given the solution (to a step at least), and still no idea how it works.

>>94064
I think you might be off by a letter. Translating from base 3 to decimal I got
15 2 9 2 5 21 19 15 5
18 5 14 3 21
19 19 1 19 15 19
13

Which then substituting for letters is:
OBIBEUSOE
RENCU
SSASOS
M

Played with that a bit, haven't got anything useful yet, though.

>>94073
Oops, yeah, I didn't convert the 12 at all for some reason.

>>94073
I GOT IT

I WAS BASICALLY TRYING DECODERS AT RANDOM BUT I GOT IT

METHOD:
OBIBEUSOE
RENCU
SSASOS
M

Turn newlines into spaces: OBIBEUSOE RENCU SSASOS M

Start with the first letter, skip 4, next letter, skip 4, including spaces, rotate back to start when you hit the end.

Or be lazy and just use this: http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/skip.php

ANSWER: OUR OBSESSIONS BECAME US

>>94077
Congrats. Well, like I was saying... that's basically a real encryption method. It's used in the Kryptos statue for chrissakes.

>>94077
well that was anti-climatic

>>94077
I am laughing my ass off cause I was inserting text into decoders at random on that exact site myself for a while there.

Good on you for finding the solution.

Anonymous 2015/08/22(Sat)13:24 No. 94325 ID: 6b52eb
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>> 94077
>we just solved a legitimate cryptography problem

srsly tho well done, do we know how the first bit works now?

Also message has implications for final result of the setting.
This is blatantly taking place inside the crazed immortal mind of the main character in the far future.

>>94325

What would a past be if you couldn't remember it? Would it be interrupted by static as new memories came to light? Would the present-past then be changed by this new evidence? Would all the various bits and pieces of your psyche chide you for forgetting everything so long? Would your paranoia take a physical form to torment you? Would all of the lost regrets and people you couldn't save appear before you, almost like a taunting second chance?

I'd say so.

Apollo 2015/08/23(Sun)17:41 No. 94368 ID: defceb
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doodle doodle doodle

*re-upping with minor edit

>>94368

Wings? Fuck those. You know what we need? SPACESHIPS.

These guys are hardcore.

>>94368
Y'know, Red Giant had Luminoth Alexandrius Falt, now you're throwing some Chozo Peeps into Rollback? Are you just trying to be Metroidy now, or was that just coincidence?

>>94414
The space peeps were introduced a while back.

I thiiiiiiink we might be the AI psychologist, this is Marie's inner world, and we're trying to sort out the various issues she has that were caused by digital cannibalism that the cyborgs seem to resort to. Perhaps it's due to the memory leak- they eat the neural nets of other cyborgs in order to claim more memories? The consumed neural nets might be the redeye cyborgs we've encountered. Some are more lucid than others, which means that some of them were consumed with less loss.

Apollo 2015/08/25(Tue)01:33 No. 94438 ID: defceb
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>>94414
110% canon reply

Anonymous 2015/10/09(Fri)21:33 No. 95411 ID: 59ae77
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Fixed this >>/quest/675727

Anonymous 2015/10/09(Fri)22:35 No. 95413 ID: 59ae77
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And here's >>/quest/675723

Slightly messier, cause the column pixel width wasn't completely constant (sometimes they seemed to bleed to the left onto the next column, not sure if that was deliberate, or just an artifact of the chopping up). I could go through with the pencil tool and fix the scanlines that produced when unscrambling, but nope, don't feel like it.

theres so much that must've been forgotten

this thread is freaking me out a little, i can't tell when the plot's gonna end.

is that a black hole at >>/quest/675562 ?
is it a worm hole? how did we get a worm hole when we're nowhere near there technologically?
how far ahead is this being viewed from?

we fell in love and forgot about it? >>/quest/675723

when we're yelling to not be fixed, theres dust objects, how long have we lived?

>when we're yelling to not be fixed, theres dust objects, how long have we lived?
Well, in this flashback, we see Alex >>/quest/672807

That puts Marie's lifespan on the order of 5 billion years, at least, since the sun's already a red giant (title drop) in his time.

Riotmode 2015/10/12(Mon)23:06 No. 95465 ID: f56624
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>>/quest/676216
VWOOP VWOOP VWOOP VWOOP VWOOP

Apollo 2015/10/31(Sat)18:08 No. 95863 ID: defceb
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Recently I found an old sketchbook of mine that has all the doodled of Rollback before I started it. I asked peeps on IRC if they wanted to see my shameful scribbles and they said yes so HERE WE GO.

This is the first drawing of Marie and what would later become Red Eye side by side. My early idea for the character was drastically different from what made it into the quest. They had a different general helmet design, were 10 feet tall, and weren't an antagonist at first. I ended up splitting their character into two different people, but I can't go into detail about that without getting into spoiler territory.

I also realized it was a weird idea when I asked myself; how do they get through normal people sized doors?

Apollo 2015/10/31(Sat)18:11 No. 95864 ID: defceb
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First draft of what would later become Red Eye's helmet, with a scribble I added in now for comparison. I wanted the helmet to be a really complicated smorgasbord of machinery, but ended up simplifying it to the spooky silhouette we now know in-quest. I realized as cool as it might look, I'd rather be able to update at a nice pace instead.

Apollo 2015/10/31(Sat)18:15 No. 95866 ID: defceb
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Hi Haley! Some redacted text here too. Her glasses were so much smaller back then.

Fun facts, in the first draft Haley:
-was a cannibal
-would end up going insane and chase Marie with a chainsaw
-took a LOT of drugs
-like a LOT
-ALL THE TIME

I ended up downplaying the drugs part and cut out the chainsaw segment.

Apollo 2015/10/31(Sat)18:17 No. 95868 ID: defceb
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Here's where I started to home in on where I wanted Red Eye to look in-quest. Also first draft of Morgan and Blue. Morgan probably went through the most character changes during this time, going from a punk kid to a corporate spy to a number of other things until he hit where he is now.

Also there's Haley with the chainsaw I was talking about earlier.

Apollo 2015/10/31(Sat)18:18 No. 95869 ID: defceb
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Another early Marie drawing. Still hadn't figured out quite what I wanted to do with her hair or silhouette yet, but I had a decent idea of her starting outfit.

Apollo 2015/10/31(Sat)18:20 No. 95870 ID: defceb
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More of Morgan, Haley, and Marie. I really struggled with trying to nail some kind anatomy down to this really cartoony level. I'm still awful at it too, I think.

Apollo 2015/10/31(Sat)18:21 No. 95872 ID: defceb
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First draft of Roderick and Jeannine. I ended up reusing some clothing elements for Jeannine in one pic, but besides that pretty much none of these sketches went on.

That's all for now! I hope you've enjoying seeing my shameful display of old art.

>>95866
>implying she's still a cannibal

>>95873
That, ah, might possibly help explain the spontaneous bleeding. Lots of weird, horrible diseases a person can catch that way.

Anonymous 2015/11/03(Tue)21:54 No. 95906 ID: 5ad4a7
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I evened out the levels a bit on the most recent spook image.

For the people who don't hang out on IRC:

I've made an important addition to the wiki page. Now we all know what everyone's Dungeoneer VN otps are. It's all canon.

Okay, asking the important question. Which syllable in "Marie" is stressed? Because I've been reading it French-like ("ma-RIE") since the beginning and it'd be really embarassing to realize I've been misspelling it all along.

>>99671
Marie'd pronounce her own name in more of a Brazilian Portuguese fashion. It'd sound more like 'Mah-re', with a as in father and the e as in yes.

Riotmode 2016/05/11(Wed)16:31 No. 99719 ID: 35151f
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>>99716