>>60049
You named the SFR right...?

Okay one vote for TG.

/tg/ has bigger playerbase. Plus, I really don't like that we are playing the game in two threads. Better keep it in one. The way you set it up right now on tgchan will make it a bitch for the latercomer to read, since a lot of relevant info for the main thread is in discussion thread.
Also, I like to read from suptgarchive thread by thread if I missed the thread.

Good points anon, one more vote for /tg/ unless I get some pertinent reasosn to stay our next thread will be on /tg/ tommorrow.

No offence tgchan. you're a cool place but I don't think our method of play suits your set up.

>>60060
Are we going to get through anything today?
If the next session is tomorrow, around what time, CST?

>>60062
Yeah what he said

Long-term plans: continued expansion to the east and north. South is Communicorp, and from their description that Samson gave, Jove's vision, and their apparent level of technology, we're going to have trouble with them, and a big fight on our hands.

Also, since we have the Alien Power Source, do we want to build up for a Massive Project (creating Stonehenge or Liberty Prime), or concentrate on Medium and Large Projects to bolster our conventional forces?
Or perhaps try to put together a Satellite Communications Relay and try to get control of a weapons satellite?

>>60060
Tgchan has its charm, but it'd be nice to be back on 4chan

I'll syat our next quest Noon CST on /tg/ tommorrow, if anything comes up that'll stop that you'll hear about it on my twitter. I'm gonna go apologize to TGchan for finishing our tenure here earlier and tell them how cool they've been.

as four your ideas SFR-Anon, all are possible and we'll wiegh them when our next quest on/tg/ comes up. stone henge, or a liberty prime lookalike are both possibilities, and both are massive projects (81 small projects)

Thanks for the heads-up, BoS.

So, advantages of Stonehenge:
Can be defended behind layers of defenses.
Based upon proven gauss technology.
Provides anti-satellite capability if necessary.
Technology can be used for an orbital mass driver.

Advantages of Freedom Maximus:
Mobile and pinpoint destruction.
Can target things that artillery cannot reach.

oh fuck it... I'm banned for 3 days... The quest is on hiatus until then.

Guess I'll find something to do.

>>60077
Having some more morally grey options would be a good idea, maybe spend free time thinking of some of those?

Banned again?
Do you share a connection with other people?

My system caches user names, and it decides which ones to keep and which ones to toss upon shutdown seemingly at random. in this case, one night while drunk on fatigue I got curious and decided to post as #opisafaggot just to see what would happen.

Whelp.

My system cached this dumbass tripcode that some hitlermod permabanned for shits and giggles. I was apologizing to someone for rustling their jimmies, and to be fair I was being a jerk, the sight malfuncytioned I reloaded and I forgot to ditch #opisafaggot and replace it with something that isn't permabanned. sadly this is all my fault. In the mean time I'll check in a few times a day to answer questions and discuss shit.

Okay we need more morally grey options. What do you define as morally grey? I felt killing the raiders and slavers was more morally just than using them as slave labor.

what do you think? morality is subjective.

Lets come up with some scenarios and I'll base morally grey encounters on those.

>>60084
Tribals living atop a military base/Vault and absolutely refuse to leave, and the culture means they don't want anything we could trade to them is a good old standby, cliche as it is.
Another is a war criminal that has with them some new and incredibly powerful technology; though our history shows that almost always we'll provide asylum.
Maybe the Coke Squirrels deman to be recognized as their own nation?

>>60084
Less clean-cut decisions, seems like most of the decisions have been pretty clear for good vs bad. I can't really think of anything that would fit well, perhaps something like a city with extremely high demands for peace, or that while still civilized, have values that contradict Pax Americana and our beliefs? I dunno, I guess some groups that aren't Raiders/Slavers, but don't really fit into the new america. Rambling off random ideas here, hope other people can think of more.

BrotherofSteel!lnanIRPeSk 2012/08/31(Fri)14:39 No. 60087 ID: 98a065
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See? It's not easy being [spolier]grey[/spoiler].

As for the tribals, we'd probably just invade in the night, with power armor and vertibirds, offload them to a new location and give them resources to settle. LEast that's the vibe I get from our players.


Tch, Tch, Tch, Tch.... Wanna includ a vault where everyone needs a license for...everything, the guy who would take us to it got kicked out for forging goldfish care, breeding, and possesion licenses. MiteBeCool if we're given the choice of putting up with a 5+ years worth of paperwork to do anything with them or to just depose the leadership and put in a less paperwork crazy society.

>>60087
That sounds like a pretty sweet idea, not actually doing stuff wrong. Props for actually being able to think of all the stuff a civ game needs.

>>60089
Thanks, it pleases me to hear that someone appreciates how tough this can be. I went into my first civ thread thinking "this will be easy!" by the third one I was like "fuck, no wonder sierra and all those dudes just stuck to empire management. Story hooks are tough."

Okay deposing paperwork fetishists is in.

I'm also thinking of having you encounter several vaults, paperwork vault being one. Several others, some inhabited, some infested with raiders or monsters.

We have a missionary movement doing stuff, so I'll include the occasional RP interlude with them...

and yeah looking over the vault-tech in vault 57, even if you just examine the machine would be useful. Vault-Tek had some sweet stuff.

Been thinking of having some sentient super computers from <plot hook preserved for surprise> and I'm not quite certain what benefits they would bring to the table gameplay wise.

>>60090
Toughie, it'll be cool to have AI in though. Maybe make research projects cheaper? Or boost combat robot effectiveness with better programming?

I like the second one, something to do with machines, robots, and computers...

I figure there was a hippy commune and other bohemians in the past, the ching us the I-Ching, an ancient chinese divination ritual, they're descended from chinese americans and hippies, the 'dinis are stage magicians and perfomers descendents, the Dayglo are hippies with a passion for bright clothing the nurds are well... nerds.

Uncertain if I should include androids or not. I kind of wnat a vault designed to test human and robot cooperative possiblities and from that we could recruit androids.

>>60092
Could be a RobCo factory operated by a ZAX AI that went rampant. Of course, there would have to be a reason for the AI and androids to want to join up with the American Union, instead of staying isolated in their own community.

>>60092
Story I read had a vault that was pretty much dedicated to research and advancing technology, by time hero got to it they had androids and cybernetic implants for everybody. Could do a vault like that. They'd probably be pretty damn well off too, with all that brainpower.

Both are good possibilities. Also I'm going to include special characters who can up various types of research you have going if you fufill quests for them.

and from the looks of things an AU/MN alliance or full on merger isn't far off, just have to arrange a pro-mutant event.

Hrrr, maybe have some commonwealth exiles as the badguys... I'm gonna have several factions for the badguys to attack you with. The American legion has already been mention, and rest assured the higher ups iwll have their own stone henge Mega-Oppressor robot plans.

Freedom Maximus has to have a heroically stoic face, he has to look like he's constantly contemplating the burden of protecting FREEDOM from the scum of the world. yeeesss.

everyone seems to like the intellipumas and squirrels but I think I should keep the number of uplifted animals lowish.

how do you guys feel about cyber dogs and robo vbrains? you have the capacity to make 'em, no one seems to have brought it up.

>>60096
I forgot that cyber-dogs are a part of the background and should be something the Enclave would have.
As for the robo-brains, we could have used raiders and slavers for that, but with the big thing about making a kill-on-sight order for them an AUAF policy, I don't suppose that works too well.
Maybe open it up as a route for the elderly and the terminally ill? Like, instead of death, you can join the Robo Legion, a branch of the AU Armed Forces that's composed of robo-brain warbots and vehicles.

I guess we have K-9 units now.

Probably best to bring up the robobraoin issue in the next thread and let the players discuss that way they can figure out how stark they want to be. could always decide to bring in Raiders and slavers, remove their brains and use 'em for organic processors.
Maybe I'll include a reporter as a recurring charcter...you are the guy him? use him as a veiw point for battles? writing the Battle of the Colliseum from a reporters viewpoint could be real cool.

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>>60097
Interesting idea for the robobrains, volunteer brains.

>>60096
Definitely should keep uplifted animals low, but cyberdogs, I dunno, don't seem like they would be very useful. Maybe use the same tech to keep injured worgs battle-ready, but the normal cyberdogs seem kinda useless here. Maybe for sniffers sure.
Pic related, the face of Freedom Maximus!

>>60098
A recurring reporter would probably do awesome as a battle viewpoint. not too sure about using him a s a YOU ARE THE GUY person, maybe for important people interviews.

>>60099
Cyberdogs might be useful as part of civilian police patrols.
Not too useful in the military when we have Worgs that pull double-duty as sniffers, guard dogs, and mounts; but they could be useful to regular police.

>>60101
Yeah, that works

BrotherofSteel!lnanIRPeSk 2012/08/31(Fri)16:38 No. 60103 ID: 98a065
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No no, not a human face, a semi-human face like the one way down left in the corner, see how sad and stoic he is? Perfect hero material."ONLY A METAL SHELL STANDS BETWEEN FREEDOM AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION."

Cyberworgs? Oh hell yeah.

Reporter will probably be featured in one or to IWBTGs...mostly I'll post some of his radio monologues. We need a newspaper name.

well we've got the slaver den of vie, maybe we should encounter a new reno/new vegas?

I know one of communicoprs proxies are the American Legion, now I just need a classical civilization to base a creasers legion type set up on. Egyption maybe?

>>60103
Egypt would be a pretty rockin' legion idea. Maybe something a bit more European, like the Celtics? A New Vegas would be an interesting challenge as well

>>60103
Freedom Maximus:
"WE HOLD THE LINE SO THAT OTHERS DO NOT HAVE TO."
"WE ARE CITIZEN SOLDIERS; WE WILL ALWAYS BE READY."
"AMERICA SHALL RISE!"
"THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE."
"ENGAGING INSURGENTS."
"DISCIPLINE IS THE SOUL OF AN ARMY."
"LIBERTY CANNOT BE BOUGHT WITH INJUSTICE."
"JUSTICE WILL NOT DIE SO LONG AS THE AMERICAN SPIRIT LIVES."

>>60104
Lets see these guys are building on pop culture and history celts had.

Blue face paint, druids, uhm, thats all that comes to mind, feel freee to expand on it anon, no reason they can't be another faction.

Eqyptions had the pharoah, god on earth, scribes, temples with history written on the wall, usually before it happened, animal headed gods... lots of fodder in both corners for cool foes.

>>60107
The celts were headhunters, preferred big hacking swords, fought similar to wild boars [could use some form of giant mutated hog mount], and apparently openly gay.

BrotherofSteel!lnanIRPeSk 2012/08/31(Fri)17:21 No. 60109 ID: 98a065
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>>60105
Freedomtacular! awesome stuff.

Hrrmm have the egyptions led by a Cleopatra wanna be, operate out of a glass pyramid and use a combination of archiac stuff like swords and crossbows and more modern stuff like grenades and energy weapons have "wizards" that use energy weapons and stuff like tesla armor. Maybe install some mildly advanced tech in obelisks like CCTV and machinegun turrets, egpyt thenmed security robots and the wizards can wear T45Ds modified with animal head turrets.

I don't know much about celts but there's absolutely no reason they can't be influded. Maybe druids who utilized mutated animals and plants as weapons?

>>60108
THAT has ALL kinds of potential. Head hunters, so they're obsessed with collecting heads, have a fondness for hacking weapons, rippers and such. Give 'em mutated pigs with huge tusks as mounts, have 'em grow poisonus plants and utilized stuff like acidic spore cloud producing fungi as mines... Oh yeah, no tech here, just lots of viet cong'd mutated wild life.

>>60109
GOOD GOD power armor with animal heads? Thats gonna be a must-have.

>>60111
hell yeah! Animal head helmets with night vision and other cool stuff for thw warrior/priest/wizard dudes who use the laser guns and what not.

>>60109
Thanks. I was going for the 'stoic defender of Freedom, Justice, and the American Way' rather than the rabid anti-Communist 'better dead than Red' vibe from Liberty Prime.

>>60113
Well you did a great job of it. I thiink Freedom Maximus should embody the ideal of the meleancholy defender, prepared to fight for truth, justice, and the american way till the bitter end. That's my head canon anyway, share your own if you think it's superior!

Okay we gfot Viet Cong through the lense of celt culture iwth weaponised mutant animals and plants and fungi. They got rippers and other advanced melee weapons, presumably guns too.

And we got Psuedo Egyptians who have an arcology, footsoldiers with basic stuff like swords and crossbows, higher ups with combat armor and firearms and finally elite troops with energy weapons and animal head power armor. oh and they're led by "Cleopatra"

Methinks we should have the option to subvert and subborn these people.

>>60114
Sounds like a nice bunch! Also, subborn?

>>60115
Derivitive of the word "Subordinate" basically means to make somone subordinate to you. My ma's an english teacher amusingly enough.

as for cummunicorp...? not talking about them.

Hrmm, Maybe I'll have a masked freedom fighter who's actually one person in a long line of freedom fighters. "Beneath this mask lies not a man but an Idea. You can't counter Ideaology with bullets. Stab me, shoot me, blow me up. I'll just keep coming. Ideas are immortal." they fight a long battle against the faith and anyone else who would tread n the common man.

Hrmm, maybe we should develop an augmentation program? would be a large project but making sure elite troops have cybernetic augmentations would probably increase our combat effectiveness.

Okay we have a radio program and we have readio plays...now just what do we play on the radio?

>>60116
Good ol' patriotic songs, like the enclave did. And probably some folk music from the tribes we've absorbed.
Nice V for Vendetta reference.
The augmentation program would be a good idea, if we can get the enclave half to be alright with it.

I figure there's war wounded so you can use stuff like prosthetic limbs and eye to get people who're leery of it to mutter about it behind closed doors instead of openly opposing it.

You can upgrade your spec ops squads so they're better at their jobs once augmenting is semi-acceptable. The brotherhood doesn't give a fuck about augments though. I figure a good 1/4th or so of the brotherhood's soldiers have small augments of somesort present in their systems.

I think we'll call our freedom fighter "The Minuteman" give him an old revolutionary army uniform for a costume, a theater mask of guy fawkes, a plasma pistol, and a sword. probably at least 2 bandoleers of grenades at any given time.

>>60118
Sounds like a very good hero. I'm gonna turn in for now. Helping out with a fair all day tomorrow, laater!

>>60120
and a tricorn hat...yeeesss.

oh! good night anon.

>>60121
We have the tech for brain-bots; can we put them in any kind of heavier robot chassis, such as that of a heavy security bot?
I like the idea of a Mechano Legion or Robo Corps, for the terminally ill, the old, and the critically injured to serve America even in death.

Oh god. dreadnaughts.

Well there's nothing I can say that would make this unpossible so yeah we could do that.

Might wanna be careful about who you choose, Go youtube the robocop 2 and the poorly done knockoffs OmniConsumerProducts tried to make of Officer Murphy

I would suggest only trusted veteran volunteers who know about all of the advantages and disadvantageous as well as the existence of any fail safes(without telling them what they are of course be used for any Robo Corps. Make the chassis something extremely durable, powerful, and inspiring.

Haven't heard anything in awhile. Anyone know whats up?
>>60185
would make sense if brain-bots kept the human intelligence, but I am pretty sure they wipe the brain and just use it as the computer. So it could totally be used for the sick and elderly, as long as their brains haven't degraded too far.