For those not familiar with the original Master of Magic game, I just thought I'd list out some differences. Those differences are definite reasons to be cautious about taking assumptions from the game--one can take general details, but the specifics might be different.

1. The spiders. Independent spiders exist, but there aren't any spider mini-factions or cute spidergirls or Spider Queens like Sis in the game. They're just wild giant spiders. There's a Nature summon spell that can summon giant spiders.

2. Long-range siege units capable of striking across several map squares. All combat in MoM took place on the same square, on a battlefield like we saw with the attacks on the spider and chaos bat caves. Alternatively, bombarding with long-range spells is an option.

3. Building and unit training in general seems somewhat different. A bit more realistic, less abstracted. Things like having to build farms and train our farmers and scientists instead of instantly swapping their jobs. Also, we can level our scouts in a way that didn't exist in the game.

4. An overall tech system separate from magic research. In MoM, there's just researching magic, but in this quest we've been having to acquire information like farming techniques, stoneworking, and so on. 'Teching' up in the game consisted of constructing buildings that'd give you access to new units and buildings (much like in Starcraft/Warcraft), but it seems it doesn't work like that at all in this quest. Though infrastructure probably helps or is necessary for some things. But this opens up some possibilities that wouldn't be in the game.

5. Random story stuff like that human hive mind, the city ruins, the nomads' offers to us, and more. Basically, there's more narrative stuff going on, some of which break the original game's rules. Like Guardian Wind being used as a city enchantment instead of an unit enchantment--Liteeh even talked about how that violated her assumptions.

6. The extent of development of other arch-wizards. Overall we're starting at a later point than they've been, starting us off at a severe disadvantage. I think this can probably be overcome though but it'll take time.

Overall, differences like those are why we shouldn't take information from the original game for granted. We saw this stuff in the Lunar Quest game, too, with for example discussions about Abyssals' nature that turned out invalidated by the considerable setting changes in that Quest (not to mention simplified game systems).

However, some stuff that I suspect will hold true: we strongly need to check out those potential mages and heroes amongst the gnolls that our pervy dragonian mentioned. Heroes in particular were potentially stronger than any other units in MoM with enough experience and artifacts. Army-crushers on their own. That might not extend that far in this quest, but they're likely to be important components of our armies at the very least. Our currently fire-breathing and winged captain as well as Curiosity are clear examples of Heroes (the captain being a warrior type and Curi being a mage type).

Capsule verison: we need to find more unique characters amongst our gnolls, heh.

In Master of Magic quest thread you mentioned that crafting "permanently drains skillpoints for the day"

1. Skill points? huh? since when do we have skillpoints?
2. Is it permanent or is it for the day? it cannot be both... if its just for the day its no big loss, if it is a permanent loss of arcane power then it is quite an expensive thing to trade. (to the tune of "why did we bother taking item crafting in first place?")

If it's holding true to MoM, skill points are basically the amount of mana we're able to spend each day/turn/whatever. Note this is not even remotely necessarily the same as the amount of mana that is generated each day/turn/whatever.
Item crafting and stuff... well, ANYTHING that would require multiple turns to cast, would drain the entirety of the pool you had left and then drain it again the start of each day, until you spent enough mana to finish it. Basically it means once we start casting it, we can't do extra stuff on the side until we are done.

Unless of course bg is straying from MoM mechanics in which case any deviations would be nice to be told.

on the other hand, spells cast during battles and such did not consume the same skill points, instead that depended on the distance of the battle to your circle and the maximum skill points. I have no idea how that is handled here but I would not be surprised if it were different.

man, I really should think things through a bit more before posting, I keep thinking of other things I should clarify.
Those skill points are the MAIN wizard's ability, in this case Fire Claw. Other casters in the army and such are able to support the wizard to increase their skill points, and they also have their own skill points which are spent during battles and renewed each day.
So Fire Claw would be sorta out of commission until the Item Enchantment was done or canceled, but Curiosity and others would still be able to cast things.

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/04/12(Tue)15:04 No. 35125 ID: 5e0d31
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some pictures i drew for FA :V

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/04/12(Tue)15:07 No. 35126 ID: 5e0d31
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that text is tl;dr give me a sec to answer!

>>344926
If you were talking about >>344798 sorry about that! Spanish's your native language right?

I found this quest today, and I am loving it so far :D

Anyway, I was wondering what counts as a 'weapon' for buffs like eldrich weapon (and also for magic weapons. Do the following count as weapons for the purposes of enchanting:

* Natural Weapons (claws, teeth, fists, etc)
* Projectiles (fire-bombs, catapult ammo, arrows, etc)
* Projectile Weapons (bows, catapults, etc; enchantment affecting any launched projectiles)

>>344926
Interesting. Her nipples turn purple when she's casting a spell.

>>344950
It makes them look extra-delicious. I really like the way bg draws nipples.

That's your opinion then. I think the shine and skin-to-fur transitions are weird. I think it's just the color that makes it look weird, though. If it was black and white it would look great! bg is a really good artist, he just has weird ways of doing some things.

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/04/13(Wed)16:35 No. 35224 ID: 1540ca
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While Master of magic is built around the base of the computer game, it’s not exactly like it, the idea was that the Arch-Wizards have a way to alter the reality of the world, if the game where exactly like the computer counterpart, it would be kinda boring.

You can somewhat check unit abilities in the wiki:
http://www1.tgchan.org/wiki/Master_of_Magic

Magic Works differently in Master of Magic, a Wizard (sorcerers, etc.) gain spell skill points, the spell skill points determine which spell they can cast, for example:

+ Firewall: 40% + 5% x level [Strain:50][Skill: 3][INS][OL]

A wizard that knows firewall must have 3 available spell skill points to cast it, with a success chance of 45% at level 1, now since firewall is a spell that must be maintained the wizard loses the 3 spell skill points from the reserve until the spell is dismissed or dispelled. Now, strain is the second part of the magic system, strain is the measure of magic contamination in a person, casting a spell with a strain over 50% has a 40% chance of failure and a 10% chance of magic breach (random adverse magic effect), at over 100% a spell breach roll must be made each turn, and an extra roll for every 50% over 100%. each maintained spell adds 5% x skill of the spell permanent strain until dispelled, a wizard can clear 10% x caster level strain each turn and twice if no action is taken(resting), additionally, powerful magic items add permanent strain while hold.

Crafting magic items removes a selected amount of skill points each day the crafting is underway, as if it was a maintained spell, and the item will only be crafted until the whole points have been paid. Cancelling a magic item destroys the materials.

Any weapon Enchantment works only on weapons (not natural, not ammo) but the ammunition carries the bonus from the weapon.

Eldrich weapons deal chaos damage, but also hit through damage immunity. Does that mean they can hurt creatures that are normally immune to chaos damage (like doombats)?

Do siege weapons (like a catapult) count as 'ranged weapons', or does a weapon have to be something that can be held (like a bow or a crossbow)?

And does the bonus damage from an enchant like eldrich weapons scale based on the damage of or number of projectiles? (By which I mean, if we have a catapult launching shrapnel ((though I suppose that would have a much shorter range than a singe boulder)), does each piece get the same bonus that a single large catapult stone would get?)

>>345036
the fact the the thing is throwing TREES at us i am pretty sure it counts as a ranged weapon.

See for comparison to the 'cluster catapult':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapeshot
A catapult would not launch normal stones fast enough to do much damage, but depending on how Eldrich weapon effects it, you end up with either a fairly good or an extremely good shorter-ranged siege engine (comparing to a normal catapult like a shotgun compares to a rifle)

by that description:
1. Skill points = mana / magic points
2. It is NOT permanent, its just used up for the day/days it take to craft. So a wizard crafting an item for a week cannot cast any other spells that week since he is using all his mana for it, but will not be in any way permanently drained of power...

Well, plus there is the spell breach system, which is cool but doesn't really change the above to two factoids.

If the only risk of crafting an item is that you can't cast other spells for a few days i see no reason why NOT to barter item crafting in exchange for services... She actually invested some of her character creation points in being a crafter, she might as well make good use of that knowledge.

Be good to outfit people like our captain too. He nearly died from taking a bunch of arrows. Would be nice if he had some protection from things like that. And better weapons and so on. But we can work that out later.

If Fireclaw doesn't have anything else to do with magic, crafting is always good. Question: can she work on a project for a day and then shelve it to resume it from the point she left off? Or does she have to constantly invest magic until the project's done?

yea. good idea... also it would help tremendously with her popularity.

>>345504
Give the captain armor with a permanent version of the wind shield.

>>345706
That's actually a pretty good idea. Missile immunity would be handy to make it safer for him to do firebreath strafing as a possible tactic.

>>345711
Then he will be killed by a swat from a golem or a magical attack.

>>345848
That's what other defensively enchanted artifacts are for. But really, arrows seem to be a far more common threat than magic or golems. So it's worth protecting against missile weapons first. Protection from magic would be next whenever it can be managed--he can just avoid the uber-tough enemies until he's far stronger, and there're enchantments to help with that too.

>>345849
I am not saying he shouldn't get arrow protection (although there might be a better enchantment to get), i am saying that he shouldn't be sent, alone, to breath fire on an enemy army.

>>345932
Oh yeah! That'd be silly. :) Backup is pretty much a must anyway. It'd be a long time if ever before heroes turn into army-annihilating demigods (and bg might not carry that feature of the computer game over).

Ideal would be Chaosing up a bunch of troops and putting the winged ones with him to give us an aerial assault force.

Though we're kinda low on population.

Is there any news on what happened to the quest? Is a different BG quest active at the moment?

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/05/28(Sat)17:48 No. 37244 ID: 870c03
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>>346069
im sorry, i was caught in work and stuff, and a little health issue... but imma back now

>>347044

So... that health issue is vomiting mass quantities of tomato soup?

The quest lives! :D

with an update that STILL doesn't tell us anything.

I am happy about your return.

everyone saying to leave the BARBED WIRE alone made me 8I

Glad you're back and feeling better.

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/06/03(Fri)18:01 No. 37451 ID: 3cde27
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>>347082
that whole feeling well business is still kinda fuzzy...

>>347251
Coughing blood is ungood.

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/06/05(Sun)15:40 No. 37504 ID: 507109
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ladeedaa~

>>347304

Silly Fireclaw, that's upside down.

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/06/17(Fri)23:56 No. 38198 ID: 7e5a09
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quick sketches

>>347998
dawwww, she is adorable.

>>347998
:D
<3 Immy

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/06/18(Sat)19:05 No. 38217 ID: 80ce78
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she is baking a "you didnt save me" cake

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2011/07/25(Mon)15:45 No. 40681 ID: a99faf
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Fireclaw spell list reminder:

+ Warp Wood
+ Disrupt
+ Firebolt
+ Hell Hounds
+ Earth To Mud
+ Resist magic
+ Firewall
+ Heal
+ Resist Elements
+ Eldritch Weapons
+ Chaos Channels
+ Web

>>350481
Oh, good. For a moment there I thought we had accidentally traded away our hell-doggies.

Does Chaos Hound always re-summon the same hounds, or is it different ones each time? I ask because if it is the same one you might be able to teach them things over time.

Sis-
War Bears
Wall of Stone
Giant Strength
Stone Skin
Earth Lore
Giant Spiders
Ice Bolt
Chaos Hounds

Are you ever going to continue Trapquest? :<

Cutegal quest has returned! :0

>>353843
Trapquest>Cutegal quest

Sword stuff:
Does shatter do what it sounds like (ruins metal weapons and armor, like warp wood but with metal)?

Can we choose for our sword to create miniature fire walls (of limited length and number active at a time)?

Can we choose to make our sword shot web shoot webs?

If we imbue it with lightning bolts, would it be something closest to:
-A sword covered in electricity?
-A sword that shoots little ligthing bolts when it is swung?
-A sword with a lightning bolt spell which has a mid-high cooldown?

Instantaneous spells get charges when crafted on weapons, that is, a number of times per day that you can use the spell.

Summons are called automatically when someone wields the weapon, and if killed they will be back the next day

Combat Magic gives both a damage bonus and charges depending on the weapon

Permanent magic applies its effect directly to the wielder

Overland spells cant be used in weapons

+ Chaos Channels : [Instantaneous, Permanent][A.lv 4][Casting 8+] roll(1D100) inflict chaos mutation based on result[2 bad/1 bad/1 good/2 good] [next: 2]
lv1 - [25/50/75/100] lv2 - [20/40/70/100] lv3 - [10/20/70/100] lv4 - [-/20/60/100]

+ Corruption: [Instantaneous, Overland][A.Lv 4][Casting 8+] Drains The natural life of a target region, comverting it to wasteland

+ Disrupt: [Instantaneous][A.Lv 2][Casting 6+] Attempts to destroy a Non magical Construction roll(magic) vs resistance [next: 1][+1 to roll x lvl]

+ Earth to Mud: [Instantaneous][A.Lv 1][Casting 4+] Creates a thin patch of mud in target area of lvl radius. [next: 1]

+ Eldritch Weapons: [Instantaneous, Cost][A.lv 2, Casting 4+] Converts a Weapon into a magic chaos weapon, it adds +1xlvl DMG [next 1]

+ Firebolt: [Instantaneous, Ranged][A.lv 1, Casting 3+] Fire Ranged Attack 1D4 + (1xlvl) Damage [next: 1]

+ Firewall: [Instantaneous, Overland][A.Lv 4][Casting 8+] Surrounds a Map Region with a firewall

+ Gargoyles: [Instantaneous, Summon, Cost][A.lv 2, Casting 5+] Summons a Gargoyle with level equal to spell lvl. [next: 3]

+ Heal: [Instantaneous][A.Lv 1][Casting 3+] Cures 1D6+lvl to target unit [next: 1]

+ Hell Hounds: [Instantaneous, Summon, Cost][A.lv 1, Casting 5+] Summons a hellhound with level equal to spell lvl. [next: 1]

+ Lightning Bolt: [Instantaneous, Ranged][A.lv 1, Casting 4+] Lightning Ranged Attack 1D6 + (1xlvl) Damage [next: 1]

+ Resist Elements: [Instantaneous, Cost][A.lv 2, Casting 6+] Extra HP against Elemental Damage [10 + 5xlv] [next: 2]

+ Resist Magic: [Instantaneous, Cost][A.lv 2, Casting 6+] Gives Resist Magic 1 + 1xlvl [next 2]

+ Shatter: [Instantaneous][A.lv 5, Casting 7+] Attempts to destroy a Weapon, Roll(magic) vs Resistance [next: 3][+1 to roll x lvl]

+ Warp Wood: [Instantaneous][A.Lv 2][Casting 3+] Deforms Wood roll(magic) vs resistance [exp 2nd lv: 1][+1 to roll x lvl][next: 1]

+ Web: [Instantaneous][A.Lv 2][Casting 4+] Creates a Web in the target Creature, reduces Movement by 2 + lv, reduces Action Rolls by 1 + lv [next: 1]

Can creatures slip if unbalanced in the mud made from earth-to-mud, or does it just slow them?

>>355059
it gives a penalty to combat roll and movement roll (to all ground units), it can make units fall under the right conditions.

Just realized that the gal in "cutegal" might be derived from Sergal rather than the slang for girl. (p.s. cutegal wikipage needs link to this newer disc thread)

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2012/04/22(Sun)03:38 No. 51599 ID: 06ccca
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we might be back!

Wow, all sorts of quests are returning these days. It is good to have you back.

>>361399

yes please.

>>361399
Wait..... WHAT!?

It's like having all of my childhood dreams come true! Most of my favorite quests, that got me into this board, are all coming back.

>>361399
I arrived here after this quest was apparently gone and I'm still happy about this for some reason

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2012/04/25(Wed)21:54 No. 51782 ID: fcccd4
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:V

>>361582
yay artz :3

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2012/05/12(Sat)22:37 No. 54569 ID: 6c7587
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i might have died

>>364369
I hope you didn't. You are the cutest lizard.

>>364398
She really is. I hope she gets better......

Who's the green haired girl at the top of the thread?

Something about the size and shape of that loin cloth makes me really want to flip it.

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2012/05/13(Sun)21:59 No. 54654 ID: 6c7587
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>>364423
my pokesona~

also, more tliqu

>>364454
I keep trying to tilt my head to get a better look... Her waist looks excessively slim though. At least she is happy.

And now I still want to mess with the loincloth..despite it not covering anything.

pew pew..(obviously the sound of flipping a cloth, or lazers..not blow darts :( )

>>55064

Cool!

>>55064
This is awesome

Yes. Yes it is.

>>55064
Like ripe, glistening melons.

>>55064
She's so cute. ^.V.^

>>55064
Cool, it's nice to see the characters in color, at least once, to see it in our mind, as you see it in your mind.

bg!5E5cOpffmA 2012/06/16(Sat)17:19 No. 56159 ID: ef2f4f
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quick colored tliqu picture to bump my thread :v

>>56159
Either her breasts absorb water or they're noncanon much to my disappointment.

I promise not to mind if they do become canon.

>>56159
OH TLIQU

she stores all fat in them rather then getting fat in other places.

>>56162
Highly logical, like a camel. This explanation satisfies my curiosity.

>>56160
Boobsquish.

>>56159
This is relevant to my interests.

maybe they're weapons. or perhaps she took that perk to improve her clvg inventory space to four squares.

>>56213
well her quest is to find mates, so having a good TITS stat could be useful.

Elephant Guy 2012/06/19(Tue)11:28 No. 56226 ID: 771d02
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>>56215

I like her TAIL stat better.

Tilqu Milk.

>>56226
Me too! She does have a adorable tail!

>>56362

please don't ever agree with me again.

>>56400
You should've reminded him that it's "an adorable" instead of "a adorable" for maximum effect.

>>56400
>>56405
Um. Sorry guys?

>>56424
I don't have anything in particular against you, I just found that mildly amusing.

>>56425
Ah, righto.

What quest is Tliqu in again?

>>61753
Oddly enough it's a quest called "Tliqu":
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/403373.html

I might... not be... dead yet.

!!!

Bring the Phoenix Down! Get a Phoenix Pinion just in case!

Sweet jesus! Get this guy some morphine! We got a lot of work to do!

>>77275
Are we going to get more cute drawings and cute quests with sad stories?

Hurray!