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131456 No. 131456 ID: 34fb21

The discussion thread of fractured minds
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No. 131459 ID: 3ce8ff

will more help be provided here?
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No. 131462 ID: 34fb21

Yes I will provide any information that you need as long as you should know it I won’t tell you anything you have yet to learn
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No. 131473 ID: 3ce8ff

I realised that I'm not sure broken knows that is how e is identified to us. Does e identify as broken emself?
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No. 131474 ID: 34fb21

Broken has no name at least none that he remembers
But he is in fact actually aware something is referring to him as broken or at least that is how the eye refers to him as so he will keep the name
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No. 131480 ID: 34fb21

I shall begin to make a reference point here for broken

Name: forgotten
Alias: Broken
Species: none
Genus: Wraith

Abilities
Upgrade
Convert
Rebirth
Dimensional level teleportation
Time manipulation (perfectly freeze/ fast forward/rewind time around a single item)

Passive abilities
Soul sight
Remnant absorption
Unstoppable force
Elemental magic
Mind communication

Commands
Show [whatever you want]
Upgrade
Create shortcut
Access shortcuts
Access memory
Overwrite
Reload
Data wipe
Reconstruct [this is a passive trait when using this you will only get its status and it is slow]
Create command

Shortcut
Passive ability
Abilities
Elements
Show me
CUpgrade
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No. 131486 ID: 3ce8ff

is
>CUpgrade
a typo? or intentionally distinct from Upgrade
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No. 131487 ID: 34fb21

No typo
It was mentioned in the quest itself it was making a shortcut
For
Correlation Upgrade
Where it would scan the opponent and make the corresponding upgrades to counter it
It’s just listed as
CUpgrade for short
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No. 131489 ID: 34fb21

Name: forgotten
Alias: Broken
Identity: Broken
Species: none
Genus: Wraith

Abilities
Upgrade
Overwrite [locked[
Convert
Rebirth
Dimensional level teleportation
Time manipulation (perfectly freeze/ fast forward/rewind time around a single item)

Passive abilities
Soul sight
Remnant absorption
Unstoppable force
Elemental magic
Mind communication

Commands
Show [whatever you want]
Upgrade
Create shortcut
Access shortcuts
Access memory
Overwrite
Reload
Data wipe
Reconstruct [this is a passive trait when using this you will only get its status and it is slow]
Create command
Start project

Shortcut
Passive ability
Abilities
Elements
Show me
CUpgrade

Elemental magic
Elements in possession

Chaos
Earth
Fire
Air
Water
Life(plants)
Death[locked]
Energy(plasma)
Lightning
Metal
Crystal
Dragon[locked]
Soul[locked]
Rebellion[locked]

Condition
Madness/insanity (you are not alone in your mind anymore)

Projects
FUpgrade-(started by Broken inspired by a suggestion including a laser drill)
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No. 131491 ID: 3ce8ff

I assume "FUpgrade" is short for 'Function Upgrade'?
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No. 131492 ID: 3ce8ff

>>131491
oh fusion upgrade
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No. 131518 ID: 34fb21

Hey if you don’t mind can someone change Chronos the Rebel to EtherealNexus for me cause I can’t and that annoys me cause I want to change it
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No. 131519 ID: 34fb21

Also help creating a reference sheet would be great please
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No. 131526 ID: 34fb21

Soul remnant
The soul remnant is the negative emotions left behind when one dies it doesn’t matter where you go when you die the soul remnant is always left behind...
Sometimes people with strong wills and strong emotions can leave something else behind with their soul remnant such as hope, happiness, justice, etc. and these can create very powerful creatures
Depending on what negative emotion makes up the majority of the soul remnant a undead creature is born with a copy of the soul they came from it is not real and the negative emotions that caused this creature is involved in the copy of the soul and it won’t move on for they already have
There is only one soul remnant per person
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No. 131540 ID: 3ce8ff

currently if feels a little like the most meaningful choice i have made this whole quest was to use overwrite on a rock, and it failing creating/revealing/attracting overwritten.
Otherwise it has felt a lot like here are some side quests you can choose the order of, with their solutions being rather fixed leaving me just guessing till you either tell me the right one or i guess it.
my experience with this site is that it tends to be more interested in creative problem solving and matchmaking. so far neither of those are feeling particularly supported in this quest (not that i personally do matchmaking) so when i try things and the answer is basically just 'wrong' repeatedly when i try to use the tools i have it feels bad. particularly when it doesn't feel like it makes sense either.
This world intrigues me but, I personally am not looking for puzzles with one 'correct' answer i want to figure out a solution i can call my own. Ideally one not thought of by the puzzle maker. Zachtronics games have done this wonderfully, they give you a set of tools and tell you to make this result happen from these inputs how you do that is left entirely open to you
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No. 131561 ID: 289e15

>>131540
I kinda want to say the same about Wraithquest.
You've put so much effort into this world and its inhabitants, but no choice ended up feeling like it was "allowed". I greatly look forward to seeing what you come up with in the future, as I do believe you are invested towards creating a truly immersive Quest, but at the moment things may improve if you find a way to allow for a bit more flexibility.
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No. 131563 ID: c9e03e

Yes I’m working on it
It’s just kinda hard
But I am working on it
It’s kind of hard though especially with this one as Broken is an individual so he will think for himself accepting or denying what you offer as he wants to do something else or feels that there is or must be a better way
But I shall listen to suggestions
Probably should have looked earlier
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No. 131564 ID: c9e03e

Also you may not realize it and I’m actually sorry I didn’t make it clear but you have made decisions that have impact or rather questions you have asked things Broken might never have thought to ask giving him more insight into things to look into
But then again that probably isn’t something you may be interested in
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No. 131565 ID: 3ce8ff

>>131564
that is fair those are the kind of changes that are hard to see from the outside. an important thing is limitations, right now those limitations feel inconsistent is probably closer to the problem, if something is the only solution with established restrictions then of course that will be the only solution and that's entirely fine so long as the reasoning for that being the case isn't stupidly constructed to be the case. also when 'cutscene' type things happen its probably best not to give openings for doing things, as that is when you get clever people derailing everything by not letting the villain monologue or whatever
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No. 131573 ID: 34fb21

You know funny thing
I will give you the chance to kill your opponent before they give their monologue in the middle of their monologue or if you are very clever and are able to position yourself correctly immediately after they finish their monologue
Because in real life you don’t get to read a monologue before you get killed
I mean it’s dumb your opponent is ignoring you kill him it saves a lot of trouble
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No. 131574 ID: 34fb21

Of course it can ruin the story but if your clever you can get back up and continue there are more things to explore analyze and fight secrets to be found greater powers in dormant states
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No. 131672 ID: 34fb21

I’ve been thinking about music which then led me to this question
Which song or just melody or what not would suit each of my characters I would like to hear your opinion for the characters of this “quest”
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No. 131673 ID: 3ce8ff

>>131672
sorry but i am of no help in this regard, i have songs i like but that is independent of the characters
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No. 131679 ID: 34fb21

The other mentioned way back when would probably fit Godhunter right about now
Don’t know about broken though so many and somethings may never come to fruition
*shrugs*
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No. 131685 ID: 3ce8ff

>>131679
best laid plans of mice and men. happens when one doesn't have full narrative control sometimes the other part just doesn't go the way you expect. As for where I fall in that expected, not expected spectrum I dunno.
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No. 131690 ID: 34fb21

Well it is possible to write a story or in real life so on and so forth for multiple paths to lead to one result so when there are many possibilities plus I haven’t even thought up an ending not for Broken the other which I may as well give you their name of Chronos Machina... he does have an ending he has a path but I left Broken under defined basically the story of Broken which may perhaps be a spoiler so (yeah after writing it this might be a massive spoiler as it does involve Broken in some way but eh read it at your own discretion) Broken was and is another version of Chronos another dimension’s version of him you have met Neutron who’s name is also Chronos Machina but is designated as Neutron as the nature of his dimension... Broken is a version of Chronos who forfeited their entire existence they wouldn’t have died no what happened was a reset of the realm of soul caused by another version of Chronos who became the other Chronos or I should designate them as Hiltkeeper Chronos well that one once known as Occulta chronos fixed the origin being known as Countdown allowing it to destroy a target to reset it so he targeted his realm of power (Occulta) and it was reset causing the erasure of many Chronoses from that realm... now he did that to delay the inevitable as he couldn’t defeat Omni a machine or program that was originally created to protect the Omniverse which is the spiritual universe of every universe combined {heaven mayhaps} but it was reprogrammed well programmed to be accurate which Ed caused conflictions to protect the omniverse and destroy the omniverse basically destroying all of existence well it reset and merged the two commands to indirectly destroy the omniverse and its slowly creeping up on the line between direct and indirect but yeah omni is the enemy Broken failed to destroy divine intervention happened to create broken as a fail safe there are secrets in him but he is not the main character that’s hiltkeeper he’s the main character and also not as he is only one of them but that’s not important
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No. 131706 ID: 3ce8ff

>>131690
the only way Broken is not the main character of the story is if this is an elaborate prolog to the actual story. Even if Broken is not the one who is supposed to be doing the big things he is the protagonist of this story thus far.
also please the white text instead of spoiler is kinda painful.
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No. 131748 ID: 34fb21

Updated status sheet

Name: Chronos Machina
Home dimension: Soul anarchy
Alias: Broken
Identity: Broken
Identities: Broken, Artificer, Logical, Prototype, Overwitten, Gatekeeper, Origins
Species: Wraith
Race: unknown
Soul: Creativity
Soul wall: Rage
Hive: Unitate disiungitur

Mythical creatures:
Moskstraumen
Daedalus
Yet to unlock

Abilities
Flight
Upgrade
Overwrite [locked]
Oblivion [locked]
Convert
Rebirth
Dimensional level teleportation
Time manipulation (perfectly freeze/ fast forward/rewind time around a single item)

Passive abilities
Soul sight
Remnant absorption
Unstoppable force
Elemental magic
Mind communication
Mercy of Rage

Commands
Show [whatever you want]
Upgrade
Create shortcut
Access shortcuts
Access memory
Overwrite
Reload
Data wipe
Reconstruct [this is a passive trait when using this you will only get its status and it is slow]
Create command
Start project

Shortcuts
Passive ability
Abilities
Elements
Show me
CUpgrade [Corresponding upgrade]
FUpgrade [Fusion Upgrade]
PUpgrade[Permanent Upgrade]
TUpgrade[Transfer Upgrade]
Worm

Elemental magic

Elements in possession:
Chaos
Earth
Fire
Air
Water
Life(plants)
Death
Energy(plasma)
Lightning
Metal
Crystal
Dragon
Void
Soul[locked]
Rebellion[locked]

Ailments:
Madness/insanity (you are not alone in your mind anymore)
Spontaneous unfeeling
Hallucinations

Wraiths number: 3

Soul Remnant
2786 human
6 rozakri
15 terratyris
25 vrolken
233 pyrianius
222 psynera
179 frynare
259 cryostazo
271 pynoxious
234 tyroxin
59 slime
175 Crytolin
2 techiquro
75 Floriterria
2564 honeypot ant
987 sweet bee
1983 European hornet
354 red fox
376 American beaver
324 grey wolf
435 brown bear
653 hummingbird
64 diamond back snake
6 king cobra
3 inland taipan
2 black mamba
365 wolverine
74 Gila monster
32 Cooper’s hawk
21 hummingbird hawk moth

297523 currency
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No. 131758 ID: 34fb21

Chronoses
Go!
Key: kingdom hearts reference this Chronos uses a key blade
Hunter: a hunter... comes from the monster hunter dimension got trapped on an uninhabited island full of monster with no way out until he discovered the multidimensional teleportation
Golem: a construct made by a Chronos who then transferred his memories to it
Static: a Chronos that got stuck in the radio waves and he takes the form of static
Divine: DEAD in fact overkill this guy was of the Emperial species who viewed themselves as angels and whenever a portal to another dimension appears they view it as a sign from god to exterminate those who dare desecrate holy ground and kills them all their species are the natural enemy of the corrupted ... a bunch of Chronoses kill this one and some were disappointed he didn’t live longer... so they can make him suffer for the amount of suffering he caused
Corrupted: the version of Chronos of the Corrupted species don’t let the name fool you they are nice they exist is some what if a theocracy as the land chooses as queen... the land of which the Corrupted live slowly turns people into corrupted this Chronos decided to remain one... nice folk...
Order: a Chronos who went down the route order did....
Latex: a Chronos who is fed up with being used for *censored* and cut up for tires... he is essentially a rubbery slime
Gelatin: the slime version of Chronos
Heartbound: comes from the dimension of heart believes in the power of heart to the point that it’s annoying
Keeper: don’t know where he came from but you can usually find him around the temples of fate
Knowledge: a librarian Chronos
Book: a writer Chronos... uses a pencil
{need to cut here it is annoying me}
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No. 131759 ID: 34fb21

Chronoses continued
Go!
Drake: a kobold Chronos
Dragon: a dragon Chronos
Oldblood: here for a long time the longest good thing they are immune to age... he uses blood as his weapon
Novos: a star/nebula Chronos essentially a living nova
Arcane: a wizard Chronos uses a staff wears a pointed hat and only uses spells
Bound: a prisoner of the gods and still can’t get those shackles removed
Risen: an undead Chronos
Reborn: Half-Phoenix Chronos who can be reborn from his ashes assuming you light them
Brigade: a naval captain trained and disciplined and hates a lot of the other Chronoses because of their improper behavior
Scavenger: a Chronos who goes for a Bird like theme who knows he might be a bird but he survives on what he salvages
Bandit: a thief though not very gentlemanly because I gots to live no one knows what he steals and he won’t tell as how can you prove he stole
Steamer: steam punk Chronos
Pirate: a pirate Chronos with a gear/steam punk theme
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No. 131785 ID: 34fb21

I made a point of mentioning sound it made sound and the heat would most likely kill anything in the general vicinity it would have made a cone shape of which Broken would be in the safe zone while everything else is destroyed also unfortunately the math is still need I’m not doing it anymore but broken is also there are different amounts of atoms in a gram of different things also I’m stupid made a mistake but yes I meant molecule not atom but also technically atoms to as the silicon and oxygen were mainly involved also the energy resulting from consumption stabilizes itself if you let it Broken left it open so it didn’t hence explosion... Broken first locates his waypoint making sure to concentrate on it being a no zone for void and the planet is gone and the broken moons seems broken was focusing to much on the waypoint to notice he absorbed the planet and it’s moons as well as some comets and meteors as well as some gases...
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No. 131932 ID: b0bb46

Because you seemed interested to what can kill Broken I was reading the wheel of time series and came across a method of doing so If Broken were to enter a dream world and fall into a persons dream he could be killed as the person who is dreaming has absolute power and rules are different in a dream... of course broken cannot enter the dream world without the help of someone or something
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No. 131933 ID: 3ce8ff

>>131932
oh no, making dream worlds physical places is a TERRIBLE idea in your setting. That makes the dream world a desirable place to go as a factory of LITERALLY ANYTHING if you have a cooperative dreamer. Not to mention this suggests dreaming creates temporary dimensions. Where presumably when the dream ends everything is full on un-happened. Unless you mean in the Inception sense in which case why would the body die.
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No. 131937 ID: b0bb46

That’s assuming there aren’t rules in this objects created in the dream world react differently to things of the cognitive world the dream world is also not a temporary dimension otherwise broken could get there no the dream world is a separate reality sure you can get anything you want but using just the dream you would live long as food there wouldn’t fill you, sleep won’t rejuvenate you, things wouldn’t work the way they should and things from the dream reality cannot enter the cognitive reality... also it is possible to leave a dream if you fall in just don’t get caught up in it acknowledge it as not real... the dream world is strange...
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No. 131938 ID: b0bb46

The void
An infinite unending space of nothingness that waste, trash, or things ignored by dimensions end up in it is possible to fall into this unending space if you break the space-time continuum and it will want to consume you if you continuously disrupt the space time continuum as that is what the void is for it is the balancer of space and time it keeps all in check for as many life there is death for all creation there is destruction... for all existence there is void... the void is a strange place that no one can fully understand nor should try to understand it is every shifting and changing rules continuously being rewritten the further in you go the deeper into the void one is the harder it is to get out the void has 12 layers the first three are the boundaries between dimensions and are the most stable the next three are where the people who continuously mess with the space time continuum go and the bottom three are stranger the tenth level is a defensive layer for the eleventh as the eleventh level of the void is home to the one known as Fate keeper of the rivers of fate... the twelfth layer’s purpose is unknown as it is inescapable or should be for it has been claimed to have been escaped from by three people... one a destroyer who now is long dead another a pure soul and the last a knowledge keeper they have been dead for a long time so they cannot be put to the question
The void has access to a light a strange light as it emanates from the darkness of the void
The void itself seems to have emotions and though and perhaps may have a connection to the element of void if so the element would become a technical thirteenth level to the void...
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No. 131945 ID: 3ce8ff

>>131937
So we are in a multi-multi-verse?
Is the dream-verse also a multi-verse?
Is the cognitive multi-verse and infinite multi-verse?
A dream reality is a world where knowledge is, rather directly, power. If you can get cognitive matter into dream world the reverse should be possible. Even if dream stuff can not chemically react with cognitive matter, they can collide. Thus, you could take a little button that will just detonate into dreamstuff and shove all cognitive matter away, to the point that, for practical purposes, the cognitive dimension is gone.
The only effective counter to this I can think of would be if a dreamscape quickly returns to a 'blank slate' state if it lacks a dreamer to shape it. thus taking something out of the dream-verse has it quickly return to 'nothing' as the cognitive-verse has no dreamer.
This way it is not a case of cognitive matter destroys dreamstuff (or vice-versa) or else entering the dream world would cause you to just melt everything (or be melted by everything)
>>/quest/954736
For theoretical concerns it matters only that it is possible, not if we currently have access to a method to do so.
>>131938
Ah cool so we don't have to make all our own light here
The deeper layers sound cool, but too risky to attempt to venture down to.
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No. 131948 ID: b0bb46

The dream world does technically reside in the realm of power for mind there is also the realm of dreams in the realms of power but it would be more appropriate in this case to call it the realm of creativity... also yes that’s why the stuff from the dream world can’t come into the cognitive world it’s connected to a dreamer the whole process of the dream world is confusing but it doesn’t end... there are layers to it the mass dream the singular dreams {which count as a layer} the void {no dreams yes it is connected to the actual void and can fall into the void this way} prophetic {where all the see the future dreams happen} and the nightmares the mass dream is the top layer where people usually enter and it flips with the nightmare level depending on the singular dreams layer if the majority is nightmares or good dreams the mass dream is the culmination of all dreams it won’t go away as it is the template for dreams it is the masses view of the world like mementos but objects there are still connected to dreamers... now I talk about this because you can get in you just need help in doing so plus it can kill anything it wants
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