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772439 No. 772439 ID: bfb318

"Finally! After ten thousand years, we've come to know everything there is to know about the ring shell!"
"Glitcher."
"Yea, Rulekeep?"
"Has your consciousness been going for that long? It has only been about 20 years for us."
"... I mean, close enough, you know?"
>"How the heck did you do this for ten thousand years?!" Haydi asks. "I've gone a few months alone and god damn it's tough."
"Well, things were a little different back then, and you know, I had people to... well, after a few centuries. Everything just kind of."

"Passed."

"The first 500 felt longer than the last 9500."

"Or at least past me thought so I think?"
>"... so what are you now, anyway?"
"Huh?"
>"I can't tell if you're actually the glitcher, or just some projection of the glitcher."
"Haydi."
>"Mom you've been wondering that too!"
"Sooner you stop worrying about it, the better!"
>"Just answer me. What are you? The more we look at you and the RS, the more different you appear."
"Say wasn't 'Haydi' supposed to just be a temporary name?"
>"Don't change the sub-"
"'cause I just realized your permanent name should be Shopkeeper 2 with all this existential crisis talk going on!"
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No. 772440 ID: bfb318
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772440

"Look, I know I'm in the best position to answer that question, but I'm the worst person to ask it. Whether I'm the ring shell just projecting the glitcher or the glitcher running the RS, well, it's just kind of a double-shape illusion that changes what it looks like based on how you look at it. Considering that you guys run off the RS too, well, if you're unique people, then so am I, the glitcher. I just have not-strings dangling between me and the whole rest of the RS."
>"And if you cut those? Where is your conscious stored? This shell, or the RS?"
"Wow you think I give a shit about that well I don't! Geez I thought you'd be the closest one to approach me in how little I want to think about that."
>"That's Mittens, but the rest of us are the scientists trying to figure this stuff out aren't we?"
"Oh yeah. I guess. I dunno."
"It is most likely both." says the Rulekeeper. "I fear that the distinction between you and the ring shell has become more blurred than I could see at first look. Our omniscience covers the entire contestant universe, yet yours appears to be more uncontrolled and involuntary than mine. I at least can turn it off and on, and selectively so. I have seen you doze off, as though you forget you have a shell. Either way, neither form suits our personalities or identities as individuals. It is a necessary function for us, and I hate this fact."

...

"Guess what it's time for a break!"
"Wait. Real time will pass."
"We'll dumb the contestants down. Shaving off a tiny bit of intellect they'll barely notice is like, triple the computation speed."
"Glitcher, the salikai could be coming down to shut us off right now."
"It'll take less than 20 seconds!"

Choose Character:
Radmin
Sevener
Other?

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No. 772442 ID: 595d54

We've been Radmin enough, let's go with Sevener for once.
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No. 772443 ID: 211d83

Sevener. Or see what Sweatermouse and Radmin are up to.
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No. 772444 ID: 4546ab

Chief. I want to see how he has been getting along after he had to be responsible for hundreds of years.
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No. 772445 ID: 3abd97

>>772440
Sweatermouse!
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No. 772446 ID: e22b1d

Yay you know more about the ring shell woo.

Just remember it took thousands of the best scientists ever several generations to build this thing so try to avoid worrying about whats going on inside your own head to much. That sort of thinking gets you dressed in black makeup crying in a corner wondering why your parents can't understand your pain.

As for contestants lets go look at Chomper (the chain eating guy) I want to see how he grew up.
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No. 772448 ID: b412df

I'd say Sevener, maybe a quick look at how Mittens is doing as well.

But first, what did you find out about the ring shell? You were a super wizard before, so what are you now?
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No. 772457 ID: 90f3c0

Sweatermouse, of course.
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No. 772462 ID: 97cee0

It's probably a structure lack that in some forms of pantheism, where the entire RS is theoretically one consciousness but it's so big that if it all "woke up" at once it wouldn't really be able to cohesively be like a person because all the thoughts would splinter and disperse too far and so on? Like with some really big animals they have to basically have more than one brain because their legs are too far away from their head so they need extra brains in their butt or something. So it stays "asleep" and "dreams" that it's a bunch of smaller separated people. People like you are lucid dreamers who have realized they can control the dream, while still maintaining the mental structures that allow the RS to stay "asleep".

There are theories that organic intelligences are basically the same thing, so it doesn't mean anything as to whether you're not a person. Which means you should be nice to your children. I hope you've been trying to keep a good lead on the good dad leaderboard!

Anyway I vote Sweatermouse as well. Or if not her then let's see slightly-dumber Sevener. Radmin's had enough time and we'd barely notice him not being so smart.
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No. 772471 ID: 098e6f

Chief.Sevener if not.
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No. 772475 ID: 094652

Dumb them down by a LOT if they're on vacation. Then send them to the arena. I wanna see blood!

Plus, morale is low. Some crazy hijinks with low processing power should cheer us up.

>Switch to
Sweatermouse.
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No. 772503 ID: db0da2

Chief, I love Radmin but we haven't seen Chief in a while and I'm interested in seeing how he's doing. Sevener is too reactive, I don't think she'd be as fun to be as she is to interact with normally.
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No. 772524 ID: 4763a1

Lets see if Chief has learned to relax.
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No. 772527 ID: 91ee5f

>>772442
This.
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No. 772537 ID: 395c02

Sevener, why not.
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No. 772540 ID: 30c34d

Radmin cause we can't have enough radmin in our life's.
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No. 772543 ID: 87ec13

Chief as I'm curious what he's been up to.
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No. 772544 ID: c441c1

Sweatermouse
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No. 772545 ID: 595d54

>>772442
Changing vote to sweatermouse, she seems like she'd have better interactions with /quest/.
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No. 772546 ID: fd73fa

How has Chief been holding on?
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No. 772550 ID: db0da2

Current tally (not counting characters with >4 votes):
IIII Sevener (gains one if either Chief or Sweatermouse loses)
IIIIII Chief
IIIIIII Sweatermouse
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No. 772556 ID: ff8f56

Sevener, want to find out what shes been up to.
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No. 772557 ID: 3fb34c

Chief.
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No. 772560 ID: bfb318

Due to a close 3 way tie, there may be character swapping instead of sticking with one character.
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No. 772561 ID: bfb318
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772561

>How's Chief doing?
He's been a team lead. I didn't even invite him to be one! He just showed up and was all taking charge. I was gonna have a boot clip right through his ass and then turn on collision while it was inside, but then I realized he took charge of all the boring parts and it was great.

Except he's a total workaholic and he's on mandatory break duty for now.

>Sevener?
Glaring in a corner to scout for someone she might tolerate enough to be a teammate. Radmin and her are still a team on paper, but they're mixing it up with some side shows.

>Chompers?
They're doing alright. I made it so they destroyed everything they touched, but I guess Rulekeep reverted that.

>Radmin
... makes me want to think more about the Ring Shell.

>What have you learned about the Ring Shell?
It's pretty cool.

It's like a double layered thing though. It took me a while to notice it, but when I do a thing, or rather, when the RS does a thing, another sub-RS thing does a thing to mirror that or something I dunno I just run the experiments I don't process the data.

See with strings, they seemed complex at first, but it seemed pretty basic once I stared at them for awhile. It all came together and that's how I became a super wizard.

But now that I'm working with the RS I can't just call myself a super wizard anymore. I know what I'm not calling myself - a super genius! Or even just smart.

RS pixels? It's a good thing I've got people to actually think for me, because the more I learn about them the more I think I don't know anything about them.

I'm contemplating running some routines to make some contestants, or maybe Rulekeeper, some kind of super-genius.

But that's for later! For now I'm gonna do, uh, something else.
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No. 772562 ID: bfb318
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772562

You are Sweatermouse. You might not be the referee anymore, but that's because you finally got backup in the form of Birdfeed. He seems to like being in the center ring of attention without actually being the focus of the attention.

Right now, there's a lull in the fights. You don't know where Radmin is, since he seems much more talented at finding you than you finding him. You also thought about going to Alison, but you've become worried about being way too clingy. Alison is too nice to say anything.

As a result, you've got nothing better to do than sit in your little house and play video games.

It sounds bad when you put it like that, but it's nice.
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No. 772563 ID: 211d83

What type of game you playing? And do you have anyone you like playing with?

How are the matches going? And are they actually deciding a admin anymore or is it just for fun?

And how are you feeling about Glitcher's little trap went off that "protected" you from Radmin and Glam's amorous intentions? It's nice that he was worried about you but that must have been weird.
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No. 772565 ID: b2db3f

After all the death battles and murder puzzles this seems pretty nice actually.

So did you ever get a second date with Radmin after the last one got awkward?
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No. 772566 ID: 3abd97

Oh no we turned Sweatermouse into a loner vidya nerd.

What are you playing, anyways?

So you don't know how to find your boyfriend to hang out? Or you girlfriend. How the heck did you even end up almost hooking up with two people by accident. Try not to get too weirded out by all of that.

Did you ever get a chance to see Arbiter? Is he still out in the stage proper or has he shown up in Sanctuary 2.0 yet?
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No. 772568 ID: e3d17c

Carefully check house for glitter bombs, traps or other potential radmin shenanigans.
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No. 772570 ID: 91ee5f

>>772562
With your luck, Radmin is going to find you on the game you're playing, both of you will end up on the same team, and he'll start bugging you by stealing your points!
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No. 772571 ID: 3abd97

Oh, hey, what happened to any of the other Alison ghost-team people? Have you met any of them again? They here somewhere too?
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No. 772575 ID: bfb318
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772575

>Are they actually deciding a admin anymore or is it just for fun?
You're pretty sure it's just for fun now. The only person who really even cares is Radmin, and possible Sevener, and Guitar Knight seems pretty stoked to get...

On second thought, the ex-admins care about the prize, but no one else.

>Did you ever get a chance to see Arbiter?
Nope. You'd like to!

>Alison ghost-team people?
You've introduced yourself to several you could find. But, they were always so busy with other people and you sometimes just felt weird snuggling her while complete strangers were there. You thought it might be best if you gave them some room, first.

>So you don't know how to find your boyfriend to hang out?
There's just not a good way to find pe -

>Boyfriend
That's a strong word! He hasn't called you his girlfriend so far.

You're afraid things got awkward with the sensory potions. You hope he isn't avoiding you over it. The last time you've seen him was during his one on one grudge match with GK, and he acknowledged you, but there wasn't as much interaction with you and him compared to other matches.

>How are you feeling about Glitcher's little trap went off that "protected" you?
You really tried to see it from his point of view, but you really wish he didn't! You should probably talk to him about that. In fact you would have, but the idea of giving him a little lip is a spooky thought.

On the bright side, you got a cool floating house in the sky. Now you just have to say a magic code to teleport here, and there's a teleporter with a few destinations to go back out. It's like your own little safe zone. You would think Radmin couldn't barge in here, but you'd rather not jinx it. It's more likely he'd show up in the video game, somehow finding you, and stealing your items.

>What kind of game is it?
You're currently playing an exploration game. It's not exciting or anything, but it's multiplayer with all the other people. Running around and finding items in ruins and subterranean lairs and stuff seems like the kind of thing that would be traumatic, but it turns out it's fun when you don't actually have to do it for real.

You've made a few friends. To protect your identity as the referee (for reasons that might just be limited to a case of social nervousness) you stick to speech to text. You talk about the places you've been.
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No. 772579 ID: 211d83

Wait so you are hiding in a castle in the sky where Radmin can't even get to you? Well that's going to make sure he is forced to avoid you. I think little miss Sweatermouse is nervous and avoiding someone.

You should schedule another date and just hang out some more. Then you will be able to tell if you just want to be friends or maybe something more. Regardless if you want that sort of relationship you two seemed to have fun together. Radmin is a big joker and likes to tease and needs someone to make sure he does not take things to far. Honestly he is a lot like Glitcher. Probably why they fight so much.

And you did seem to enjoy a lot of the teasing. You looked like you were having quite the time hanging out with him.

Anyways video games are fun just make sure you are not using your new secret space house to hide. (Also make sure you are not avoiding Alison because her sister was this close to tag teaming you with Radmin)
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No. 772580 ID: e3d17c

Double check and make sure the sky isn't on fire or anything
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No. 772582 ID: b2db3f

You got nervous and are hiding from Radmin and Glamison aren't you? Have you even seen them since you got teleported away? Man they thought you had gotten eaten by the ghost or something and were panicking pretty bad.

I think you should go talk with them about things. Playing mmo's while locked in your house is great if you are not doing it to hide away from the world.

As for Glitcher, why not thank him for worrying about you but that he owes you one extra romantic date location to make up for it? Yeah it was a bit awkward but its nice that he made a thing to keep you safe (Even if it was from himself).

Made any new friends in your game?
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No. 772584 ID: 3abd97

Does everyone get secret skybases, or is this a Referee perk.

>game
Poke the chest! Hopefully it's not a trap. Or a mimic. If you were Alison, you could hug a mimic and recruit it when it attacked you.

>That's a strong word! He hasn't called you his girlfriend so far.
Well, maybe he couldn't! Vocabulary gets a little awkward on a literal double date.

>There's just not a good way to find pe-
Considering the teleport operators hang out with him, you could probably exploit that to teleport to him.

Or maybe you have to bug one of the god-types to set up a search function. Or a phone system. There are millions or billions of people in the sanctuary right now, it should be easier to find each other.

>You hope he isn't avoiding you over it.
Maybe you need to do something to let him know you're okay? I mean, neither he or Glam is gonna make a move if they think you're still bothered by it. Maybe you need to pull a prank or something so they know things are back to normal. The ball's in your court.

...or oh gosh, maybe, this time, you need to seduce them! Ha! That would take them by surprise! If you don't die of embarrassment for thinking of that first.
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No. 772588 ID: c441c1

You know what you should do instead of sitting around becoming "Homely Mouse" you should get out there and cause some trouble! Break into Radmin's house and steal HIS items. Spray paint over the propaganda supporting him in the ring he doubtlessly leaves around town. Challenge Radmin to a one-on-one fight in the Ring as his new Rival: Heart-breaker.
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No. 772592 ID: 91ee5f

>>772575
>It's more likely he'd show up in the video game, somehow finding you, and stealing your items.
You fool! You've jinxed it and now he's going to show up in the game! He's gonna steal all of your items! DX
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No. 772637 ID: bfb318
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772637

You weren't planning on hiding away from people forever, but now that you think about it, you have been sitting here for a while. This chair is incredibly comfortable. Your in-game dice roll didn't let you open the big chest over your friends, but that's okay. You let them know you've got to sign off, but you'll be back later.

>Bug the gods
You completely forgot about the key phrase!

"Rulekeep, please!"
"Hello, Sweatermouse. How are you doing?"
"I'm okay. Can we have a phone system or something to call people with?"
"Yes. There is one already. I suppose I should publicize it, as you are not the first to call me for one. Here is a tablet. Your ID number is 137940."
"Okay thanks! Oh and congratulations on seeing Glitcher again, I know how much he meant to you. Uhh. Could you please tell Glitcher thanks for looking out for me but to not do things like teleport me away for no good reason!"
"I will, but it would have more impact if you told him yourself."
"Oh... I guess I should. But then I should tell him he owes me... a date?"
"Really?"
"NO! NO! I mean! No I was thinking about - I dated people and that's been on my mind and I lost my train of thought and then I just muttered out date and I didn't mean that I should date Glitcher oh no oh no I slipped bad I'm sorry I - "
"Sweatermouse. You do not need to panic. Although, perhaps you should rehearse what you would like to say to Glitcher."
"YES. Please don't tell him what I said here!"
"He already knows."
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No. 772638 ID: bfb318
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772638

You freeze, and Rulekeep leaves because she's a glorious person that gracefully escapes the situation instead of wrongfully thinking you could ever salavage this situation. You look outside. The sky isn't on fire or anything, so you haven't been missing out on anything cataclysmic.

>Is a skybase a referee perk or an available thing?
Nope, as far as you know, you're the only one! It was custom made by the glitcher, and so it's sort of like a perk for being picked on.

Messing around with your tablet reveals a database of people and who they go by, with disambiguation and everything.

You confirm that Radmin exists, but he has no ID number. You also see Glamison, your g-

>Girlfriend
Ohhhhh you're getting ahead of yourself too much!

She doesn't have an ID either. The tablet doesn't even say where exactly they're at, and you would sooner jump out this window and hope you land on either Radmin or Glamison sooner than calling Rulekeeper back. At the same time, the thought crosses your might that they might be avoiding you because they think you just need more room or something wrong! You hope it's not that. Maybe you should approach them, after all.

>Cause trouble as a wrestler named the Heart-breaker
As bad of a job as you'd do at it, you are still an invincible entity, so it wouldn't be as disasterous as someone might think.

It certainly wouldn't as bad of a job as if you tried to seduce them back! You would crash and burn harder than any invincibility state could protect you from. You try to think of how a situation like that would play out, but your mind goes blank. Just as blank as thinking what you would dress up as if you did dress up as a wrestler.
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No. 772641 ID: 595d54

Just call Radmin and tell him to describe what he'd like to do with you if the two of you were alone again. Maybe Glamison too if you feel like it.
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No. 772642 ID: db0da2

>That's a strong word! He hasn't called you his girlfriend so far.
He probably won't until you do first. As much as they hate each other Radmin and Glitcher are surprisingly alike. He enjoys cultivating the lovable douchebag appearance, but he's afraid of being an actual douchebag. If you want your relationship to go back to normal you're going to need to be the one to extend the olive branch.

Feelings are hard, express yourself by becoming a wrestler. Just imagine it, the moment you got unmasked would be amazing! Also it would give you an easy excuse to talk to Radmin and Glamison.
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No. 772643 ID: 211d83

Well try calling Radmin and Glam to see if it works even without a number. If you can get them on the line say hi and that you want another date and this time you are taking them both out.

If you can't call them then yell for Glitcher. Tell him:

"Hey Glitcher I am glad you are back (insert hug here). And thanks for the house and trying to protect me. It means a lot that you set up something special just for me while you were getting ready to fight that thing."

"But disappearing sort of ruined my date and I think I was sort of liking being seduced? I want to go on another date with them but have never done anything like this before. And I sort of want to seduce them back? But pretty sure I have no idea how to seduce anyone really. So I was wondering if you could give me a hand?"

"Er not with the seducing I mean but maybe help setting up a date?"
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No. 772645 ID: b2db3f

You should have Glitcher set up a wrestling match with the prize being a ultimate date coupon/ticket. Then join the contest as the invincible masked seduction mouse.

Then just beat Radmin and Glam (as they will be going for the ticket to give to you anyway) and then use the coupon on them after you win.

Or you know just call them and say you want another date.
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No. 772646 ID: 929ca6

Ask Glitcher for help seducing Radmin and Glamison.

Nothing will go wrong.
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No. 772647 ID: e22b1d

Want to turn the tables on Radmin and seduce him and Glam in ridiculous prank fashion?

Get a mod from shopkeep that turns you into a guy (Or just part of you) and have Glitcher "accidentally" turn Radmin into a lady.

Then you can show up and seduce the crap out of him while he is confused.

Or you know just dress up real nice and lure in Radmin with you sexiness. Might have to have Glitcher zap all of you with potions again though.
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No. 772648 ID: 8111b6

>>772638
Not all wrestling characters have to be good at wrestling. Comedic relief can be fun, even if they're not good wrestlers. Maybe you could make a storyline where you get knocked in the head and think you're a wrestler. It's mostly for fun, right? I suppose it could also set up for future cheesy 'oh no, I hit my head and now I'm this other thing' storylines for fun.

Have you met any other you's?
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No. 772649 ID: 3d2d5f

*inhale*

"Glitcher, since you're a peeping Tom who apparently hears everything I say, don't go teleporting me needlessly to protect me anymore! It's rude and condescending and a little insulting. I may just be a silly mouse but I can make my own choices!"

>Just as blank as thinking what you would dress up as if you did dress up as a wrestler.
Hmmm. Options that come to mind are either a silly cliche-ed superhero look (cape and mask and all) or go with something completely unsuited for wrestling, like a sparkly dress or tux and then cheat with invincibility or ref powers.

>>772645
I do like the idea of a rigged contest where you snatch the prize in the last round and use it to take them out. They'd never see it coming, especially if you did normal ref stuff beforehand.
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No. 772650 ID: 395c02

>>772646
This is too entertaining of a concept not to second.
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No. 772660 ID: 91ee5f

>>772638
>The sky isn't on fire or anything
That's because Rulekeeper told Glitcher that's not a prank anyone would find funny, so he's not allowed to change the sky's settings from "normal" to "on fire".

>>772647
>have Glitcher "accidentally" turn Radmin into a lady.
>Then you can show up and seduce the crap out of him while he is confused.
This is Radmin we're talking about here! He'd just roll with it and be completely unfazed by that happening and he would still end up out flirting Sweatermouse!

>>772643
>>772649
>Saying things to Glitcher by screaming at the sky.
Yeah, let's do that.
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No. 772670 ID: bfb318
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772670

>Call them
You don't know their number!

It stores data on everyone that's in town, but it just means that they're able to be found. You can't call people that haven't gotten a tablet, which includes both Radmin and Glamison.

At this rate you're going to have to call out to Glitcher for assistance.

But that's a terrible idea!

>Maybe you could make a storyline where you get knocked in the head and think you're a wrestler.
You could. It's also a terrible idea but for different reasons! Terrible as in terribly cheesy. It would actually work, you think.

>What could go wrong?
Lots! Lots could go wrong! Lots will go wrong!

>"Dang, I'm offended!" Glitcher slides into view from off the tablet's screen.
"Ahhh?!"
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No. 772671 ID: bfb318
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772671

You drop the tablet, and as soon as it hits the ground, the TV turns on.

>"Hello it's me. Did you know I can read thoughts?"
"... yes?! You shouldn't."

Glitcher stares at you with those bug eyes. His eyes are okay, but the way that he seems to focus on you without properly aiming his eyes on you creates unnerving juxtaposition.

>"I can't really help it. Sorry."
"Oh. Well... maybe if you... uh, geez. Huh."
>"Rulekeep says you haven't something to tell me!"
"Erk - yeah but - she also said I should reheaaarssee wait a second if you can't help but read thoughts then shouldn't you already know how I feel?!"
>"Yeah but it'd be rude to pry into your thoughts."

>"Oh."

>"Gosh."

>".... or should I turn you into a guy and Radmin into a gi - "
"NO."
>"Well okay then."
"I just want help finding Radmin and Glamison!"
>"Well, Radmin is in his dressing room. Glamison is in the backstage of the concert hall. With all the other Alisons. Like, they're both in the first places anyone should guess in."
"Well, I want to recover the date since this whole house thing kind of ruined the last one for me!"
>"What house thing?"
"... what?"
>"Hold on let me look at - oh. Ohhh that was meeee. Huh. Why'd I do that? Man I keep screwing this up. Should I just leave?"
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No. 772673 ID: 3d2d5f

You did that because you were worried you might go too far someday. Which is maybe a good thing you should still be doing if you're casually reading people's minds now. But it had unintended consequences because you're still a doof who doesn't think things through and was self centered enough not to think anyone who wasn't you could set off your trap!

So think things through! You can't afford not to, and you of all people will always have time to.

So no, you don't have to go but stop doing stuff recklessly. Even safety things. Yellow card.
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No. 772674 ID: 211d83

Please stay.

I think you were scared after messing with someone so you made a anti jerk system to keep me safe. Thank you by the way. (Tell him to show up in person so you can give him a hug)

Anyways I want to try the date again but I have never planned one or tried to seduce anyone. And I sort of want to try but last time it was all going so naturally even though I was nervous.

So I want to try again but am not sure how to set it up. I figured you might enjoy helping me figure out something fun.

That and I wanted to see you again to say thanks for everything. When you went off and died we were all sad so I figured I owed the new you a hug or two.
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No. 772677 ID: db0da2

Well, uh, I guess we got the "talk to Glitcher" thing squared away.

Tell him about your wrestling plan!

>>"Hello it's me. Did you know I can read thoughts?"
>"... yes?! You shouldn't."
I think a big part of this whole becoming a CAI thing is getting comfortable with never having any privacy whatsoever, so yeah.
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No. 772682 ID: 929ca6

Tell him no, it's ok, you actually kind of appreciated the idea of what he did? It's just that in actual practice it was kind of a problem. Like, it caused a bit of distress for everyone involved, for a little while, and meant you missed out on some good times, but the intention was pretty sweet. So don't stop doing things like that! Just... well, put a little more thought into them? They'll still go wrong sometimes just, when they do, just help clean it up and repay for the trouble.

Really, Glitcher, if you'd been around when it happened you probably would have fixed it up right away! We want you around.
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No. 772688 ID: b2db3f

I think you were worried about becoming a asshole god like Savior was and so you put a lot of reminders around to help remind you to treat people properly.

We know you never wanted the job Glitcher. But you are the strongest of us now and until you can get us somewhere safe you are stuck being our protector.

Anyways I thought since the old you accidentally messed up my last date the new you could help me plan a even better one. So I can seduce Radmin and Glamison somehow.
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No. 772699 ID: 91ee5f

Ask him if he can please turn off the "teleport Sweatermouse when she gets nervous" feature so that you don't teleport away in the middle of another date.
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No. 772727 ID: bfb318
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772727

"Nnnnoooo don't go! I mean what you did was pretty nice in theory it's just the practice that kind of was not good. Except the house. I'd have given you a yellow card but I really like the house! And I can't actually give people yellow cards."
>"What really? You should be able to?"
"What? How?"
>"It's a referee ability. Have you ever just... tried it?"
"I - wha - nevermind! Could you turn off any other features that teleports me or does anything like that that might be lying around?"
>"1, 2, 3, done!"
"Can you show up in person by the way?"
>"Uh sure."

Glitcher climbs out of the TV, and you hug him.

"If I was in your spot, I'd screw up everything way harder, so it'd be bad of me to hold a grudge. Thanks for everything, and just be sure to think things through, since you do have all the time."
>"Haahaa yeahhhhhh but hey I didn't know I was talking to Alison."
"Aaaa noo I just learned from her is all! Anyway since I have your attention, I wanted to mention that I do want to seduce? no date those two again and was hoping you could help! Or, alternatively, I might, you know, be a wrestler as long as I still have the invulnerability tag or some other way to not make it totally embarrasing."
>"Uh no offense but I think you'd find a way to be totally embarrased."
"It'd be like as a secret wrestler or something! I was hoping to set up something fun, or for help on how to seduce either or both of them."
>"... huh, no one's ever come to me for seduction tips before. Not sure why that could be."
"Well, you and Rulekeep are an item, right?"
>"Yeah and it was such a baffling event that the whole universe got broke as a result!"
"Oh."
>"But I can teleport you to them to, you know, chat about things. I could also help set you up as a wrestler. I mean, getting cozy with things is probably more up your alley, but man, the idea of you drop kicking Radmin? Real nice."
"Heeee... actually something I was wondering, do you actually hate Radmin? Are you frenemies or something?"
>"I don't like him, but I feel more free around him. I can freely screw up the whole 'try not to be a jerk' thing when I prank him, and I don't feel bad about it later! So it's great. So no, I don't like him, but I like him existing. Anyway I'd ask you what you see in the jerk but that's enough talking about our feelings. Let's talk business. You want to date Radmin an' Glamison, or wrestle 'em. Or both! That'd be a weird date. Maybe, maybe not. Up to you, but I'll help you out with whichever you want to go after."

A) Romantic? Dates. It's more of what you've already done, but you'd love to hope this one will go right.
B) Secret Wrestler, ignore fact that it will be incredibly obvious who you actually are unless you alter your body as well.
C) Both, somehow.
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No. 772728 ID: 25393f

C.
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No. 772731 ID: 3abd97

>I don't like him, but I feel a freer around him. I can freely screw up the whole 'try not to be a jerk' thing when I prank him, and I don't feel bad about it later! So it's great. So no, I don't like him, but I like him existing.
That's good, he needs someone who will stand up to him, besides me. And you need a safe target to be a jerk to, sometimes.

>>772727
C is clearly the only answer. If you do everything at once there's no way you'll be embarrassed! Because either it will be perfect or too confusing for anyone to really know what you were doing and judge you on it.
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No. 772734 ID: 211d83

C.

We get some wrestling fun in and tease Radmin and Glam horribly. Then segway that into a romantic date later.

All Glitcher has to do is help us get into the contest and make some new prizes and costume stuff. The rest is up to Sweatermouse.

I like the idea of having a special set of matches with the perfect date being the end prize. That will lure in Radmin and Glam who will want to win it to take Sweatermouse out (we hope). Then Sweatermouse joins the contest to try and steal it away as her masked wrestler persona. No matter who wins it works out and we get to have wrestling fun.
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No. 772737 ID: db0da2

C leaning B. I'm sure there's some way to naturally segue wrestling into dating, I don't know what it is, but we can figure it out as we go.

>ignore fact that it will be incredibly obvious who you actually are unless you alter your body as well.
Keep your head the same, but make your body really big and muscle-y. That way when your mask comes off you'll have the goofy badly photoshopped body look.
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No. 772738 ID: e17aca

There is no other answer than C.
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No. 772740 ID: 398fe1

A private mud wrestling match.
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No. 772744 ID: bfb318
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772744

"Well that's good, someone's got to stand up to Radmin!"
>"Yeah, and I don't feel like it, so I hope you're ready to rumble, Sweatermouse."
"Ahahhhh well I guuuuess I'll do both! How about if you get me in a special contest and the prize is a perfect date!"
>"Define 'perfect date'?"
"One that doesn't get messed up!"
>"Wow you'll make a good wrestler cause you sure don't pull punches. What if Radmin and Glamison don't join in, though?"
"Then the plan fails!"
>"Maybe let's work on that plan. Keep thinking of ideas! But wrestling date sounds good. Now, you gotta look like a good wrestler and you look like..."
"..."
>"...like..."
"Like what?"
>"A referee."
"I really don't look like that either! Maybe I look dumpy but I'm comfortable with it."
>"Hey, I'm not judging cept your eyes are cool and you always keep them shut. Anyways let's see what we have to work with for getting you a wrestling outfit."
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No. 772745 ID: bfb318
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772745

Paper Doll Mode

...

>"Okay maybe we do have a problem. If you do go with this body you are going to be about as well disguised as Radmin's ego! Maybe we should change it? Or I don't know there's something great about having you be an obvious secret. Haydi would love that."
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No. 772747 ID: 211d83

If it's obviously you then Radmin and Glam will easily know what they are getting into. Will not have to worry about why some new strange wrestler is hitting on them.

Plus Sweater does have the figure for silly wrestling antics.

As for a costume we could go with a Ref gone bad theme maybe. A Black and white sexy ref costume.
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No. 772748 ID: 094652

How about plastic hands that cover her whole body, and their gimmick is that they move around and occasionally grope Sweatermouse if she gets aroused (this is also to help her indicate when a situation is sexual or just funny) while constantly covering the sensitive parts with alternating fingers at all times.
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No. 772750 ID: 3abd97
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772750

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No. 772751 ID: 3abd97

...you need a body double you can control from your house's video game system. A tall sexy non-sweater rodent who doesn't look like you! (Who needs a mask, because she's hiding her identity).

And you can pretend to be a normal ref for part of the time, and reveal your true form in the last match / round to surprise the others.

For your actual outfit, I think we need something silly. Like crossing referee black and white stripes with formal wear and a masquerade mask.
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No. 772770 ID: 929ca6
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772770

A paper-thin disguise, but one that would last a thousand years.

>If you do go with this body you are going to be about as well disguised as Radmin's ego!

Do you doubt the POWER OF THE MASK?!?

Really though the aim of this is to seduce as well, so you need to be showing yourself off as much as winning. I'm sure they won't notice a thing! The glamor and challenge of the ring will occupy their minds too much as well as being literally dumber because of brain drain.
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No. 772771 ID: 91ee5f

Maybe if you change your body so that you're not a mouse, you'll be better disguised? I mean, think of the looks on Radmin's and Glamison's faces when you reveal yourself as Sweatermouse and neither of them had any idea it was you!

I know! You can disguise yourself as an Alison! It's the perfect disguise! Everyone will think you're an Alison and will have no idea it's you!
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No. 772773 ID: e17aca

Stay a mouse but change the proportions. Slender, Taller. A cape is a must, of course.
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No. 772780 ID: db0da2

Give me muscle mouse.

I want something edgy looking that does a good job of disguising our features. Maybe a trench coat and a hood with spooky face-obscuring shadows. It'd either be funny watching Sweatermouse fail to be edgy or funny watching everyone react to the mysterious masked monster of a wrestler turn out to be Sweatermouse.
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No. 772807 ID: bfb318
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772807

"I have so many ideas! It's tough to decide!"
>"How about you share 'em?"
"Ahh but it'd come out like a stream of consciousness!
>"How about I stop pretending that I'm oblivious to your thoughts?"
"... okay. But thank you for pretending first!"
>"Yepep."
"What?"
>"Nothin'. So okay, I'll give you some visuals.Here's a referee costume that's probably seductive, I dunno. It has cleavage, that's something. Some people think that's rad."
"Ah that's a lot of it!"
>"If you don't like it then then why did you get... nevermind, some things are even beyond my understanding. Also here's a mannequin of you except more slender and taller and a bit buffer."
"Oh gosh that doesn't look like me at all."
>"Haha yeah it doesn't suit you at all but that's the idea. Ideas like your costume that has the plastic hands that gro-"
"OKAY start pretending again please!"
>"That's what I'm good at!
"Oh but I do have an idea for a mask. It was pink in my head but maybe it should be black or white for the referee thing?"
>"Little at a time there, mind-racer. Oh, and you can have a body double, heck, you could probably control two bodies at once given a little rulekeep-intervention. Even an Alison shaped one. Oh whoops, not supposed to pay attention to your mind."
"Well, it does make explaining easy, and I am bad at that!"
>"Haha you sure are. But keep up the ideas. I like it."
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No. 772817 ID: 91ee5f

>>772807
I say for the body changing options, we completely lose all of the mouse features so that no one can see through the disguise. That's what'll make the big reveal even more surprising!

But, other than that, I can't decide between the slender, taller, buffer body type or the Alison body type!
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No. 772819 ID: 094652

Okay, how about an Alison-shaped body with TWO torsos, one on each tail end? That way, you can seductively grope-hug each other to tease Radmin and Glamison!
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No. 772831 ID: a8bc5c

Why not just alter your appearance to a muscular wrestler build that specifically lacks mouse features, then gain the ability to switch back to normal with glitcher's help?

This way, you can fight radmin to rope him into a date and then surprise the hell out of him by changing form.
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No. 772847 ID: 929ca6

Look, right, the whole point of this is to signal to Radmin and Glamison that you still want to date them and/or get their body parts all up in your body parts, with the secondary goal of making yourself look really attractive so that they are eager to meet that desire. If they spend the whole time looking at/admiring/getting all wrestly with someone who doesn't look like you, how's that going to accomplish your goal?

Take the option to try controlling two bodies at once. For one, it's something interesting that you haven't done before and will be cool to try (you can try hugging yourself! You're very huggable), second they'll never suspect the costumed sweatermouse they're fighting is you if they see you elsewhere at the same time, third it's not like there aren't duplicates of people running around anyway so they'll assume it's an alternate cycle Sweatermouse who was brought back at some point. If you like, you could probably construct an elaborate scenario where you have an evil twin who's stolen your referee powers or something.

Alternately, you could probably just have Glitcher and Rulekeeper make you an "enchanted mask" that literally prevents people who see it from figuring out who's wearing it. They'd see you and they'd see all your cute features but the aura of the mask would just prevent that little recognition connection from being made in their brains. That's a tiny bit mind controlly I know but it's harmless, not much more of a thing than the sensation sampling was.
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No. 772850 ID: db0da2

I do like the being our own partner thing, maybe we could do it were one body stays obviously Sweatermouse-y while the other goes full wrestler. We could even have the one that looks like Sweatermouse be controlled by someone else.

Could you use dark magic to make it obvious to the audience that Sweatermouse is Sweatermouse, but block the other wrestlers from comprehending it? Get a bit of dramatic irony going on.
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No. 772855 ID: 7397ab

Honestly all of those forms are still instantly recognizable due to your cute ears. So cute.

And as >>772847 states the whole idea of this match is a fun date activity. And to make your intentions public (oh so very public).

So enchanted mask or evil twin Sweatermouse that was actually just you controlling both bodies while you ref the match sounds fun.

Anything more complex seems like it could be edging on manipulative stuff. A fun prank is good but we are aiming for a serious relationship so don't want to do anything that would leave a bad feeling later.
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No. 772863 ID: e17aca

Sweatermouse is adorable but I am seriously digging the buff-sweatermouse look. Especially if she decided to open her eyes (even the glitcher likes her eyes).
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No. 772864 ID: 952ab0

I would like tall skinny and buff option more if we took the tall out of it. Keep SM short and thick, but thick with muscle instead of soft.
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No. 772885 ID: 87353e

I like the controlling two bodies option with the Wrestleing Musclemowz body who you can probably pass off as an alternate cycle Sweatermouse if pressed, and the Traditional Thiccmouse body as a decoy to throw of suspicons.
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No. 772890 ID: 3abd97

>Look, right, the whole point of this is to signal to Radmin and Glamison that you still want to date them and/or get their body parts all up in your body parts, with the secondary goal of making yourself look really attractive so that they are eager to meet that desire. If they spend the whole time looking at/admiring/getting all wrestly with someone who doesn't look like you, how's that going to accomplish your goal?
I have to sort of agree that trying to show them things are okay / normal again by not being yourself to a large degree is sort of counter intuitive.
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No. 772894 ID: e6e9af

>>772807

Wait, Glitcher is on a roll with that Haydee stuff!

Let's have Haydee run an ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN between three wrestlers, one of whom is the mysterious new figure never before scene! We'll make it so obvious that it's Sweatermouse by having her BE Sweatermouse, but it's her super secret saucy alter ego, Stockingmouse!

She'll have incredible (striped) thigh-highs, a mini-skirt of justice, and a cute cropped jacket that invigorates whilst leaving much to the imagination.

Everyone will have such a hard time believing it's Sweatermouse in disguise that no one will think that it could possibly be her. She'll be hidden in plain sight.
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No. 772907 ID: 4763a1

>>772894
Stockingmouse sounds fun.
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No. 772917 ID: bfb318
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772917

"Wait wait wait hold on! This whole idea is just to show Radmin and Glamison that nothing weirded me out for long and that I still want to see them! I look flattering there but it's not me and I should at least look like me."
>"Well that makes it simple."
"Maybe me but if I looked just a little tougher. Oh, like an alternate cycle me! Wait, are there alternate me's right now?"

You don't wait for Glitcher to respond, and type in 'Sweatermouse' to your phone. It comes up with 4 results including one that went by the name 'Mediator'.

"There are!"
>"And we can act like your body double is from some other cycle, too, put in the system and all that. A cycle number that no one is from to fact check. It's perfect. Here's a mannequin. Looks like you except like if you did squats. Like, a whole dozen of them."
"Like an evil twin!"
>"... heh. Yeah, like an evil twin. Here's a body. How's this look?"
"She's dressed with even less than me!"
>"Yeah, cause she's evil. Evil people wear less.."
"What? Who said that?"
>"Outside media! I've seen the outside world, you know."
"Oh, I guess you must be right, then - wait what about Glamison she's a good person?!"
>"... focus, Sweatermouse!"
"Okay okay, could we make it so her mask makes it hard for the other wrestlers to recognize that as me? Uh on second thought I dunno if I want to do something so mind controlly."
>"Yeah that's the kind of dangerous road that messed up your date in the first place! Let's stay away from that, alright?"
"Yeahhh."
>"Don't worry though, we'll be all 'This wrestler who is secretly controlled by Sweatermouse unbeknownst to the wrestlers!' while blocking the sound from the ring so the wrestlers can't hear. Oh and also Radmin's stupid operators in the audience. Heck, maybe you can capture them all to stop them from learning about your terrible secret."
"That I have an evil twin?"
>"N-no, your evil twin with a mind of its own because it's totally a different person."
"Ohhhh."
>"Yeah, in fact that could be the... no, the storyline is about dating. What if your evil twin thinks you're totally inferior, and that Radmin and Glamison should've been dating her from the get go? And to prove it she'll show she's actually the strongest."
"Wow this is getting a little convoluted!"
>"Yeah it's perfect. What's her name gonna be?"
"... Stockingmouse?"
>"I thought 'Murdermouse' had a ring to it but maybe a little subtlety can sneak its way in the ring."
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No. 772918 ID: 211d83

You know this is going to end up with you having to sleep with your twin right? Cause why date one sweatermouse when you can make your 3 way a 4 way.

Plus it's only fair to let her in on the fun if you are going to use a actual person instead of a clone.
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No. 772919 ID: 3abd97

>"Yeah, cause she's evil. Evil people wear less.."
>"Oh, I guess you must be right, then - wait what about Glamison she's a good person?!"
Just imagine how little evil Glam must wear!

>"... Stockingmouse?"
>"I thought 'Murdermouse' had a ring to it
You can be stockingmouse when you do your face heel turn and reveal yourself as an actually-who-you-are wrestling persona. Murdermouse is perfect for an alt-cycle you out to teach you a lesson for being a wuss or something.

And an evil twin you coming in to ruin everything is actually perfect for a wrestling story-line. The evil alt ref! Who isn't even a ref at all and doesn't respect the rules!

I mean you have to pretend to be outraged by all this in public but by this point that's easy.
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No. 772924 ID: bfb318
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772924

>Actual person
"Wait this is just like some puppet I control right?"
>"Yeah. Your consciousness, controlling two bodies. So I guess not an actual puppet, just, another you, but not their own person. You can probably pull it off. Hold on let me set it up."

You feel yourself in two places at once, and the disorientation sets in. You manage to hold your referee body up, but you lose balance on your evil-twin and fall down there.

>"Oh right freeroam. Well maybe you need a little practice, but you'll get it. I mean, you could probably use the practice acting like an actual evil twin, because, you know, going in blushing and putting your palms on your cheeks is gonna make people think 'adorable harmless sister' sooner than 'dastardly evil twin.' We can get you up to speed while you decide on a name."
"So far I'm leaning on Murdermouse for the wrestling name but turn into Stockingmouse when I reveal I'm actually Sweatermouse! Er... that the body-double is Stockingmouse, just to tell the difference. But if I have to practice then I don't need to decide yet!"
>"Yeah put it off sure. Oh speaking of that there's another problem, because right now you've got like, no wrestling talent. No offense. So with invincibility tag, it just means that Radmin and slash or Sevener are going to beat your face in for 5 straight minutes and then kick you out of the ring when they get bored. Think you should have a training montage, or should we just give you, a completely hopeless fighter, some overhwhelming stats and see what happens?"
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No. 772925 ID: 595d54

>>772924
Don't think about having sex with yourself and whether it would be masturbation or not.

Why not both?
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No. 772926 ID: c441c1

Overweilming stats
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No. 772927 ID: 211d83

Bit of column B bit of column B I think.

Even with super stats if you have no skill at all then you could get over powered and kicked out the ring fast.

So a bit of training and some enhanced stats.

Maybe even a new stat bar. Like have the normal stats but also have a evil meter and a lust bar or something. Lets you have huge power boosts when doing dastardly things and lewd combos.
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No. 772929 ID: 91ee5f

>>772924
Time to insert the evil female anime laugh here! http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoblewomansLaugh
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No. 772932 ID: 398fe1

You gotta do SOME training, I mean cmon.
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No. 772933 ID: e6e9af

>>772924

Just enough know-how to not QUITE look like she's totally Sweatermouse in stockings, but with mysteriously awesome stats / power-ups because evil twin mojo.

That sounds good.

Also we'll glitch it up with some kind of crazy totally-not-cheating-we-swear-it's-legit nonsense. Which probably has something to do with making Glamison and / or Radmin flustered. Or her opponents.

OR MAYBE HER POWER IS TO FEED UPON THE YEARNING OF THE AUDIENCE AND GROW STRONGER THROUGH SAUCINESS.
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No. 772937 ID: 3abd97

Murdermouse should get the stats. Because she's a cheater. Heck, you could just rig the evil twin to have a block against stuttering and blushing and stuff.

>training montage
...how do you train to be an evil twin? What are evil twin things?
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No. 772944 ID: 929ca6

The danger of the evil twin trying to steal your dates is that you won't manage to make her evil enough and Radmin and Glamison will end up liking her and go "well hey this is already a multi-person thing why not add another Sweatermouse" and then you'd have to disappoint them and/or get jealous of yourself.

How about if your evil twin thinks of herself as your big sister and she's heard of Radmin and Glamison and disapproves of their shenanigans so she's kidnapped you and put on a competition where they have to either prove their worth to date you or if they lose be humiliated while you watch so you're convinced they're not worth your time? That would also be a good angle for her to have captured the operators, because she wants Radmin to prove what he can do by himself. She could even have you tied up and gagged on a podium above the ring or something so you don't have to do so much work controlling two bodies and don't have to keep up double banter. You can even have her do a big speech where she talks about how you said you wanted to date them again, and slip in everything you want to tell them that way!

Anyway pick up your other body, give each other a hug, and then do a combination controlling two bodies/wrestling/kissing practice montage! Also get yourself some stats, though.
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No. 772964 ID: 91ee5f

>>772933
Or she could do sexy Bayonetta style dancing?
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No. 772987 ID: db0da2

We could train, but just randomly being really strong sounds funnier, and would fit better with our gimmick. Can we get some extra comp power to better control the second body?
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No. 772988 ID: e6e9af

>>772964

Mousonetta. With all the kinky abilities. I can dig it.
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No. 773016 ID: bfb318
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>Sexy dancing
>Sex with oneself
>Lust bar stat
>Lewd combos
UHHHH

>"Yeah, do any of that weird stuff, and they'll think there's no way your evil twin is actually you!"
"N-no way! I mean, maybe a little seduction stuff, but I'd prefer like, power boosts when I do something dirty!"
>"...Heh."
"Nono I mean like dirty moves."
>"HEH."
"Stop pretending! You know what I mean!"
>"Yeah, you mean the CHP stars."
"... okay maybe a little different. Like an evil meter!"
>"Pfff, mouse, we both know you don't have what it takes to be evil! You'd feel terrible after that."
"Yeahhh.... plus if I was that unlikeable, then it would backfire when the 'unmasking' happens and they realize it was me. Actually how will the unmasking work?"
>"The twin will be a sweatermouse from cycle question mark, and she's got to be beaten to figure out from which! Then it's from this cycle, and it's revealed it's a body double."
"Oh okay."
>"Anyway for an evil meter to work it would need to be like, ineffectual villainy. Just like being saucy! Like a saucy meter. A sauce pan. No, just sauce meter. It powers up when you get a rise out of people, either by villainy or seduction."
"Oh, but I should practice wrestling moves just a little so I know the basics, and then get some stat boosts so that it's still high power with low ability to use it! I could probably be seductive and lusty and stuff if I tried!"
>".... we have a literal succubus, you know! And... hey, seriously. You do also know that if you were comfortable with that kind of stuff, then you wouldn't be in this house, would you?"
"Y...yeahhh. But... I... do I want that? I feel like I do."
>"Here's a... no, I'll spell it out. What you want is the confidence to act that way. You don't have honest interest in a sex drive even though you're now constantly thinking about it whether you like it or not, but you like the idea of a whole new way to bond with people. In other words, it weirds you out, but you love the social aspect. I'll tell you one thing you want for sure, though! The confidence to go get what you want in a room full of a million people."
"Wow, sheesh, reading my mind does make it e-easy! But, I, er, am not actually confident, especially not to act like a saucy villain in front of so many people at once! The thought of it is! Eee!"
>"It's exciting for you, if excitement came with feeling like a rock just got dropped on your gut! But remember, it's not you, it's your 'evil twin'! Think of it as just a character. The secret is just between you and me, and if you can pull it off, then revealing yourself will be the easy step."
"D-do... do you think I can do it?"
>"I wouldn't be having this longass discussion with you if I thought you'd flub it all."
"O-ohh, geez... Mmmaybe... uh, I don't know, could you maybe put an override or something on Murdermouse so she doesn't blush or stutter?"
>".... yeah we should probably do that."
"We should."
>"Okay, let's see what you got, try to suplex yourself or something!"
"Can I get more computational power or something? It's tough!"
>"You have more than enough! Adding more power won't actually help."
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No. 773017 ID: bfb318
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773017

>What if Murdermouse sees herself as the big sister?
That could work! You can see how to act after you sort out the mechanics of how this'll work.

Murdermouse turns white, so as to not look like a ghost. You, as her, move and balance enough to attempt to suplex Sweatermouse. Murdermouse doesn't do it right and plants her own face in the ground.

>"Maybe some practice would help. But is this good? We set up a false-entry as though Murdermouse is really from a different unknown cycle? The uniforms, the looks? I guess Sweatermouse should go back to a sweater now. The, uh, hm, mechanics... let's make it look like you barely have a dot in any stars, but it turns out your actual star power is, across the board, at the same level as how far your meter goes! The sauce meter, powered by villainy and seduction, and only available to you, since I know you won't let it get out of control just for more star power. But you will have to rev it up strong at the start, like remotely detonating Radmin's truck!"
"Yeah ma - wait do what?!"
>"Oh please, that truck basically has a respawn timer."
"Well okay."
>"Then if it's all fine with you, then we can - oh right the last thing before you're set off on the world. Signature moves! If you're okay with everything to this point, you'll need at least a couple signature moves."
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No. 773020 ID: f1fe20

> Signature Move
The Snake Fingerfillet - Tackle chest, scream something in Japanese, then lock arms through the armpits, grab neck, and headbutt chest a second time all before you hit the floor.
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No. 773021 ID: 8c5e12

The Whisker Twister! Where you just laugh or chuckle to yourself ohohohoho style while idly toying with your whiskers. It's just sort of a standard idle meter-raiser. But you have to use it when it's appropriate to laugh evilly/seductively, and it can leave you open!

The Mouse Bounce! That's any move where you ram, slam, crush or otherwise heavily impact someone using one of the regions of your body that can be thought of as "bouncy": generally speaking, your chest, butt or upper legs. Maybe your ears? They're probably pretty bouncy when you move!

The Three Blinds! Three moves in one, of escalating power and danger! Three Blinds Level One is when you distract your opponent's sight by drawing their attention to part of your body, creating an opportunity. Flipped skirt, wardrobe malfunction, et cetera. Three Blinds Level Two is when you blind an opponent with an item of your clothing - generally, one you have to take off first. Finally, Three Blinds Level Three, the terrible forbidden technique - actually shoving your opponent's face into a soft area of your body, blinding, muffling and generally even trapping them in place until rescued or released! See how they run!

You should probably also have some sort of escape move, since grapples may be your weakness two-on-one. Can't think of a good one right now, though.
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No. 773023 ID: 91ee5f

>>773017
>Signature moves
I'm voting for this: http://kinnikuman.wikia.com/wiki/Kinniku_Buster and this: http://kinnikuman.wikia.com/wiki/Muscle_Millennium ! Can anyone think of different names for these moves so that they'll better fit Murdermouse?
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No. 773024 ID: 595d54

>>773017
The Dirty Double! Just straight-up flash Radmin or Glamison and then sucker-kick them. It's two ways of dirty in one!
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No. 773025 ID: 3abd97

The nice thing about being invincible is being your own punching bag.

>at least a couple signature moves
Spin the Rest. Revenge for / inversion of "Spin the ref". Make the entire ring spin around you! (Like, do a ballerina twirl, screech to a halt, but the spin is transferred to the environment).

The Ref rules. Murdermouse hijacks the real-ref's powers just long enough to cheat with them or do something unfair to an opponent.

Bombchu. If you're playing up the old time villian sterotypes, you need to be able to pull a cartoon bomb out of the air. And you're a mouse in a mask, a mouse mask bomb is perfect. (If you make them part of your costume, you can use your existing ref power to summon your clothes back to yourself at will to pull a bomb out of the air).

Don't Sweat her! Bonus against those jerks who are trying to stand up for / control Sweatermouse. Put them in their place.

Might need to replace / reinvent some of these when you do your reveal / face heel turn at the end.
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No. 773026 ID: 8c5e12

Actually, speaking of Succubus, why not get some training from her as well? Just some tips on being seductive and in having confidence.

It might also be useful to leave original Sweatermouse on standby and go hang out and strut the streets for a while as Stockingmouse, to practice her personality. Because your actions won't be be associated with your true identity until you reveal it later but hopefully you won't realize that, you might feel the inhibition-loosening effects of anonymity and be able to pick up a sense of how to act from that.
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No. 773027 ID: c441c1

The Jerry. Blow up your opponents things (such as a monster Truck) using planted explosives at the start of a match.
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No. 773035 ID: 91ee5f

>>773026
Or Glitcher could just download all of that into Stocking/Sweatermouse right now, minus the confidence, and then she'll already have all of the seductive training nessecary. It's only a matter of building up the confidence on her own.
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No. 773049 ID: bfb318
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773049

"Say could you like... download all that seduction and wrestling training into Murdermouse so that I can just, you know, work on that confidence and have everything else just automatically given to me?"
>".... No."
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No. 773050 ID: bfb318
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773050

"... o-o-okay!" you say, and he returns back to a normal, unglitched state. "Well for moves... how about... The Whisker Twister, a condescending laugh! Oh but it's too unfair if it gets me power for just standing there, so... only if it appropriate for me to laugh like that and it leaves me open! Then, the Three Blinds! Level one is when I distract them with my body somehow, Level 2 I blind them with some of my clothing and then level three I shooove their ffffface in a soft area of my body.
>"Such as?"
"My.... hair."
>"Cool. Keep 'em coming."
"D-d-Dirty Double? Where I just flash them and then sucker punch!"
>"I'd say that sounds too much like the Three Blinds but if you manage to pull off something that blunt then damn if I'll get in your way."
"Spin the rest! Instead of getting spun around, I spin the whole ring around me! Ref Rules I use ref powers. The Jerry! I pull a bomb out of nowhere. And I can detonate it remotely! The Mouse Millenium, where I lure someone up near the ropes, slingshot myself off the opposing ropes and push them into their ropes so that it'll leave a mark! Oh and the Snake Fingerfillet, where I tackle, scream, lock them, headbutt, and then hit the floor! Probably!"
>"Well since you're a special fighter I guess it's fine if you have like a hundred attacks! One more and that's it."
"The, uhhhh Mouse Bounce!"
>".... which does?"
"I hit them!"
>"That's just called a strike."
"Wiiiith... wait you can read my mind!"
>"Say it!"
"A heavy impact with a bouncy part of my body like my ears."

>Evasion/Escape maneuver move, perhaps?
You forgot! You think that perhaps the Ref Rules could help you out and reset the timer or something.

>"Okay well that sounds like Murdermouse is ready to go! I'll give Murdermouse alone the powers of teleportation - try not to abuse it!"
"Oh um... do you think... the Succubus would be willing to, uh... give me some pointers?"
>"Only if you trust her not to spill the secret identity! But let's face it. If you can trust me with it, you can probably trust her with it."
"Maybe I should practice my personality a little by hitting the streets and... talking."
>"Sure. Heck, you can go to the sanctuary and talk there if you want to talk to people who probably won't even be in the live audience. Anyway, ready for me to get out of your way?"

You put a collar on Murdermouse just to see how it would look. Both bodies of yours stare back at one another and wonder if you really are up to this, and if you are getting a little bit carried away here. You certainly never thought of your form as being suitable towards either action or revealing clothes. It might have been a subconcious display of how much faith you had in getting past more than a single stage or two. As strange of a time as it is to feel this way, you get a powerful sensation of being extremely lucky.

But on the topic of clothing, you recognize that you also panicked about just changing to your earlier date clothing. You're not sure how much of your panic is legitimate and how much is you being you.
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No. 773055 ID: 211d83

Why do I have the feeling you asking Glitcher to change you just now set off another one of his hidden traps he built for himself? Maybe a don't ever fuck with people's brains cause that's what bad people do and I am not going to ever go down that route?

You know what Sweatermouse you are pretty lucky. (and lets hope its in general and not just a feeling cause you almost just got smote just now)

As for getting carried away? Oh hell yeah you are. This whole affair is going to end in a silly mess one way or another. But you know what? That's not a bad thing. Taking a big jump and trying something outside of your normal comfort zone can be a lot of fun.

You want a bit of the confidence that Radmin and Glam have. The ability to stand in front of a million of your peers and be a bit silly like they have been. You got a taste of it while playing Ref with Radmin's matches and you sort of liked it. You enjoyed the silly back and forth you two had going and it ended up getting a bit flirty. So now you want to follow that flirty part to its logical conclusion and see what its like.

You don't want to totally slut it up in front of everyone but you want practice being a little suggestive to give you confidence so you can slut it up for Radmin in private. Sound about right?

As for being nervous about your clothes and form. Its perfectly all right. While your new clothes are a bit more suggestive its by far from being over the top. And you know what? Your original form is pretty sexy on its own. You made yourself a cute busty female with big hips shortly after you were born Sweatermouse. You just never had the confidence to use it that way.

So give Glitcher another hug and give him some honest thanks for everything he has done for you. Then go teleport over to succubus's door to chat and have tea.
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No. 773064 ID: 3d2d5f

>>773050
The collar works. Keep it.

>If you can trust me with it, you can probably trust her with it.
Well I sorta have to trust you with it, since you know basically everything now!

>teleportation
Well you already had the ref version of that.

>Anyway, ready for me to get out of your way?
Yeah I think I can muddle through things from here. Probably. Thanks, Glitcher.

>You're not sure how much of your panic is legitimate and how much is you being you.
It's probably you, but that doesn't make it not legit.

>get tips and practice?
I think it would be more interesting to just wing it. You showed you could feign outrage and stuff with the teasing game with Radmin in public. This is sort of the same thing, except Murdermouse will be the teaser. And normal you gets to hide what you're doing behind your regular act.

Hmmm. We need to plan your villain persona's debut.
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No. 773111 ID: db0da2

>>773055
>Why do I have the feeling you asking Glitcher to change you just now set off another one of his hidden traps he built for himself?
He didn't actually do anything though. I think he just realized that he's totally able to do that and was horrified at the implications.

>>773050
While I don't think we need too much practice it would be a disservice to the audience to go up there with absolutely no idea what we're doing. Let's send out Murdermouse to get into character. Remember, think "suacier female Radmin". Also take some time to make sure we can at least control both bodies at once and execute our basic moves correctly.
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No. 773114 ID: bfb318
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773114

>Ref version of teleport
It was a version of teleport that was outside of your control to decide on either time or location.

"Thanks for everything Glitcher! I do kinda need to trust you with the secret since you know everything anyway. I'll do my best to take it from here."

You go in for another careful hug, hoping to not give him another little mini-episode. Before you reach him, he puts his hand on your head and ruffles your hair.

>"Sweatermouse?"
"Yeah?"
>"You're not bad."
"O-oh, thank you?"
>"Uh..."

His ruffling gets more mechanical as he looks like he's thinking about something.

>"Okay I never know how to say I'm sorry, but I'm sorry. About the date. I mean. As tempting as it is to magic ring shell all this away, I'll just give you room to fix it yourself. Don't worry about failure, if it goes bad, I can just rewind it like it never happened. Good luck. If you need help, just say the word."

Before you can say another word, he vanishes.

Left alone to your thoughts, you keep thinking about what to do now while you practice controlling two bodies. Once you get the hang of that, you can go somewhere with Sweatermouse and somewhere else with Murdermouse to have double the productivity.
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No. 773117 ID: c441c1

First we need to get Sevener to not enter the Ring for this one which sounds like a job for Sweatermouse, and Murdermouse could plant the bomb in the Monster truck.
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No. 773123 ID: 3abd97

First up, Sweatermouse needs to be seen somewhere in public. You need plausible deniability when Murdermouse makes her debut. No one expects you to actually be in two places at once. So you need to be doing something normal and public.

We'll need to manipulate Rad and Glam to a good place to witness her opening too, or wait for them to be there. Or you know, make sure Murder shows her face in front of a bunch of cameras.
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No. 773129 ID: a8bc5c

Fire up a co-op game and get a second controller.


When you can successfully play for an hour straight without fudging anything, you may leave.
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No. 773150 ID: 8c5e12

Live out all your secret fantasies of what you'd like to do with another person but never had the courage to ask anyone for. Like... uh. Piggyback rides? Nose rubs? Being pet? A massage?

Anyway, for training, you need a few separate skills: How to keep track of sensing different things, how to do different things, how to say different things, all at the same time. So, I think you should get each body a set of headphones, put on a different song for each one, and each of you do a different dance while each singing along to your own song. That'll cover a few things at once.

If you're going for the "evil older sister challenging potential suitors" angle, then you have an excuse for the two of you to be seen out together: you're getting chummy with an alternate self of yours, talking about your life with her, and that's what will inspire her to her challenge later! So you could get some practice at disguising your double consciousness, carrying on conversations with a third person with the both of you at once while not giving it away, et cetera. Then you can separate for a while, get practice at that, and then Murdermous can disappear for a little while to "set up" the challenge.

But you should get practice with someone who won't give it away, first, if you do slip up. I say Succubus is trustworthy and you can go to her for that practice as well as for the seduction and confidence tips.
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No. 773158 ID: 91ee5f

First things first, have sex with yourself!

>>773129
This to help with your coordination.

>>773117
>>773123
Then these.
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No. 773185 ID: bfb318
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773185

>Co-op game
>Don't blunder video games for a full hour
That's a lot to ask with just one body!

It is true though that it would be great practice, especially if you played two different games in different locations. You can also focus on each respective music track. It's a small house, so you just set up another smaller television and play video games side by side, making sure to practice a smug look for Murdermouse.

It takes some time, but Glitcher was right, you've apparently been given the dual brain power to operate two bodies at once, and it just took a while to get used to the sensation. Now you just have to get used to the idea that there's a seperate body you can interact with that is actually yourself, and you can do just about anything with each other.

And no one would ever know. You have something in mind, but it's so weird and unusual you think that you never admit to anyone how much you liked it, and no one found out on their own since there'd be no way they would know.

Murdermouse shuts off the game to get up, and gets ready to get behind Sweatermouse who is doing the same.
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No. 773186 ID: bfb318
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773186

Murdermouse raises her hand to scratch the back of Sweatermouse's ear at the base where it meets the skull.
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No. 773187 ID: bfb318
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773187

"EEE!"

Sweatermouse immediately jumps forward while Murdermouse spins and writhes around. You can practically feel glitcher's judgement in the air. You may have coordination now, but giving yourself physical affection is staggering.
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No. 773188 ID: 211d83

Man we have a long way to go don't we? If you act like this with just yourself what sort of mess will you be with Radmin and Glam touching you all over?

Well do a few more practice runs and then get ready for your public appearance. First we need to find out what Radmin and Glam are currently up to and figure out a way of springing this on them.
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No. 773189 ID: c441c1

alright in your down time between now and the match you have to practice ear scratches when you can do that with no shame you will be ready.
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No. 773191 ID: 3abd97

Radmin must never know!

...Go all the way. Double self hug. Doooo iiiiit.

More seriously, that means you're going to have to avoid touching yourself at all if you don't want to blow your cover later. Or not freak out when it's not affection, at least.
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No. 773192 ID: 398fe1

>>773187
I guess we can file that one under "nevermind nevermind nevermind"

Time to engage the plan.
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No. 773200 ID: 91ee5f

>>773187
You'd better get that under control. Imagine how awkward it would be if something like that happened to Murdermouse while you're in the middle of a conversation with someone as Sweatermouse and then both of your bodies had a reaction.

Or what if you as Sweatermouse got into another tickle fight with Radmin and Glamison and then Murdermouse started laughing for no reason in the middle of a movie theater or something?
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No. 773213 ID: 493b5f

Yeah, looks like you need to get practice separating your responses and reactions.

So you'll need to do some more of that. And some other things, I guess.
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No. 773229 ID: bfb318
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773229

You've got to get that under control! By doing some more of that, and some other things, because you've got a long way to go. You'll work your way up to ear scratches, and eventually load up a video tape that glitcher left behind, called 'Wrestling 101', using yourself as a training dummy.

As you come to terms with all of these facts, you realize you've basically got no choice. To work your way up, you've got to start at the bottom, and do the things you're most comfortable with but still offer a challenge to your delicate sensibilities.

You've got to give yourself a double self-hug.

"EEEEEE"
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No. 773230 ID: bfb318
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773230

"AAAAAA"
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No. 773233 ID: bfb318
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773233

"EEEEEE"
"AAAAAA"

You hold this position until you stop screaming. It takes awhile, but you're slowly getting the hang of self inflicted affection.

Murdermouse isn't affectionmouse, though, and has to be able to be evil! Or at least mean-like. You realize you can practice both being mean and holding a conversation with yourself, by being mean to yourself. You speak through Sweatermouse to get the ball rolling.

"H-Hi, Murdermouse! Nice day outside, isn't it?"

>Insert dastardly response
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No. 773234 ID: c441c1

Yes tis a nice day. FOR YOUR DOOM! MUHAHAHAHAHHA
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No. 773236 ID: 7d8168

"A nice day for now. We'll have to fix that."
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No. 773238 ID: 595d54

>>773233
Murdermouse should kiss Sweatermouse and bite her bottom lip. Because that's evil.

Alternatively, say that it would be a lot better without Sweatermouse's butt taking up so much of the scenery.
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No. 773242 ID: 91ee5f

>>773233
>"H-Hi, Murdermouse! Nice day outside, isn't it?"
"It'd be even nicer if your big butt wasn't blocking all of the nice scenery!"

And then Murdermouse gives Sweatermouse a wedgie!

Or Murdermouse suplexes Sweatermouse, just because she can!

Or Murdermouse gives Sweatermouse a wedgie then suplexes Sweatermouse, just because she can!
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No. 773249 ID: a8bc5c

"Indeed, it is a very fine day!"

Murdermouse should grab hold of sweatermouse and throw her at this point.

"For painting the town red with the blood of my enemy!"
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No. 773271 ID: f1fe20

> Insert dastardly response
Okay...

"Take off your sweater, 8!+(#."
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No. 773285 ID: 493b5f

"Yes, it would be a shame if anything ruined it."

or, for less direct malevolence and more egotism/subtlety:

"You're welcome."
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No. 773291 ID: 3d2d5f

>You realize you can practice both being mean and holding a conversation with yourself, by being mean to yourself.
And to think, we'd usually be advocating for characters to do the exact opposite.

>Insert dastardly response
"Well it was, till you went and ruined it by showing up!"

"You make all us sweatermice look bad the way you've been carrying on. I'm here to fix that, you wuss."
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No. 773303 ID: 326609

uh uh uh it'll be your last!...?
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No. 773325 ID: 67ed9b

"There isn't a day/night cycle, you dumbass." Punctuated with a suplex.
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No. 773343 ID: 211d83

A nice day for me to steal your boyfriend that is. Then let out a evil laugh.
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No. 773370 ID: bfb318
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773370

"Yes, it is a nice day out!"

"For, uh.... for your doom!"

You may need to work on delivery.

"It is a fine day! For painting the town red with the blood of wait we don't bleed."

"It is, but it would be a lot better without your big butt taking up all the scenery!"
"Ahhh! Just turn around then!"

That's a better start. Maybe, you think, you can go farther.

"It is! Take off your sweater, biiiiii.... oh no I can't say that... there's no day night cycle, dumba- dummy!"

You might need to learn to swear at yourself. Or maybe that's just a limit you can't cross. You move on.

"It's a nice day and will be your last! Also I'm going to steal your boyfriend! Hehehehehe!"

Murdermouse needs to work on the laugh. She stops trying words and throws Sweatermouse into the chair, which topples back.

"S-sorry!" she says, and you immediately regret it. Murdermouse does not apologize!
"It-it's okay!"

It's not okay.
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No. 773371 ID: bfb318
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773371

Sweatermouse scrambles up, and the whole practice thing is put on pause to load the tutorial video so that Murdermouse can learn how to suplex. When she's gone through it, the practice resumes with a perfect suplex, or at least, a suplex that doesn't involve Murdermouse planting her own face into the ground like last time.

Which probably means you're finally ready enough to go places.
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No. 773376 ID: 493b5f

Find out where Succubus is and go to her for training!

Knock on the door before you go in wherever she is, though.
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No. 773378 ID: 91ee5f

>>773370
Murdermouse is supposed to be bad! That includes swearing! She needs to be able to say a few swears!
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No. 773393 ID: 3abd97

>You might need to learn to swear at yourself. Or maybe that's just a limit you can't cross.
You can act suitably villainous without actually swearing. If anything, it's probably funnier that way. And it makes Murdermouse more believable as a alternate-cycle Sweatermouse if she retains some of your traits instead of being completely different in personality.

>what do
You need to go out in public someonewhere before you can unveil Murdermouse. No one is going to expect you to be in two places at once, so you need to be out there so people really think she's an alt.

Preferably, we need to pick a location for Murdermouse's debut. Where she can show up, be seen, do something dastardly, get some kind of reaction, and make her demands / mission clear, thus setting up the wrestling stuff you're planning. You should probably be seen reacting to this too.

So... what are good public venues to crash? Preferably somewhere Rad and Glam are near, or can be arranged to be nearby to witness the thing.
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No. 773399 ID: 7397ab

Yeah you can be a great villain without resorting to crass swearing. Just practice some creative cursing if you can't deal with proper profanity.

Stuff like "You bumbling oaf" and if referring your self maybe "Cease your prattling you floppy eared pacifist"

Maybe go to Succubus and tell her that you made friends with one of your alter cycle incarnations and it was going well but it turns out she is a bad mouse! She said you do not deserve nice things cause you are to timid! And she is off to seduce your boyfriend and girlfriend away from you! And you need advice on seduction stuff.

Then have Murdermouse go cause a ruckus ringside and call out Radmin and Glam. Say that you have kidnapped Sweatermouse and if they want her back they will have to beat Murder in the ring.
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No. 773402 ID: a8bc5c

Before you go, practice speaking at the same time so that you can manage two different conversations at the same time without fucking it up.
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No. 773551 ID: a107fd

>>773370
>learn to swear
Classic softcore cartoon-villain insults are "impudent" (for when the subject is opposing or offending you personally in a way that's likely to end badly for them) and "fool" (for a more general accusation of incompetence).
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No. 773626 ID: bfb318
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773626

You decide to practice a proper conversation for at least a little bit as the last step.

"Hi, also-Sweatermouse!"
"Hi, Sis. I heard you're the ref!"
"I am!"
"And that you let yourself get swung around like a weapon!"
".... I do!"
"And how many times do you swing Radmin around huh!?"
".... I don't!"
"That's pathetic girl! That's just a jerkbag! Have they even tried to contact you, or did they even notice you were gone?"
"They don't have to contact me if they don't wanna!"
"That's double-pathetic! You should teach 'em a lesson and make them respect you!"
"Ohmygosh be quiet!
"Words only spoken by people who can't make me. I bet they're weak, and that's why they go picking on little floppy eared pacifists like you who won't fight back! I'll go show you they're not all that impressive and beat 'em myself!"
"That is totally not necessary!"
"It is if you're going to have a relationship worth worrying about! And you're going to watch?"
"You can't make me!"
"I can and I will!"
"Why though?!"
"Because you don't have anything better to do than the chair cushion into a big mold of your butt!"
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No. 773627 ID: bfb318
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773627

....

It's not perfect, but making fun of yourself is coming a little too naturally.

And that means you're ready.
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No. 773629 ID: bfb318
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773629

You call Succubus since she has a phone and you don't know where she is.

ring
ring

>"Hello?"
"Hi it's Sweatermouse!"
>"Oh, the referee, right? What do you need?"
"Advice!"
>"Hm? What kind of advice do y..." she trails off for a second, and then speaks in a much less light tone. "What kind."
"S-seduction? How to get guys to like me."
>"Oh thank god. I mean yes. Yes, absolutely. Here, I'll text you my address, stop on by soon, I don't know when I'll be busy again!"
"What do you even do?"
>"I'm the social conduit between all the departments of the ring shell science network.
"Oh wow. Geez am I going to be interrupting something important?"
>"No. No we are on mandatory break time and Chief has no idea how to relax and I don't want to leave him alone to stew. Come save us from this overwhelming boredom. Please."

Since Succubus and Chief are high profile people, being with them is a good alibi, meaning that Murdermouse can go elsewhere, even if Sweatermouse isn't around to react to it.

Radmin's last known location was the dressing room, and Glamison in the backstage of a concert hall.
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No. 773631 ID: fe0a90

Succubus, then Glamison. Don't cut Radmin any slack, he'll slobber all over you.
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No. 773632 ID: 3abd97

>It's not perfect, but making fun of yourself is coming a little too naturally.
It it that different than when you let Radmin make fun of you, and play along? It's sort of the same game, just a new twist. And you know you were into being teased before.

>"S-seduction? How to get guys to like me."
Not just a guy. (Although maybe you don't want to admit that yet).

>"I'm the social conduit between all the departments of the ring shell science network.
Good fit for her, really. Good to the the social skilled people are there running interference between people who are good at other things.

>Since Succubus and Chief are high profile people, being with them is a good alibi, meaning that Murdermouse can go elsewhere, even if Sweatermouse isn't around to react to it.
Let's deploy you first. So you have time to talk with them a little before news of Murdermouse gets there and distracts from actually giving you advice. Cause an evil twin is the kind of thing that distracts people and changes the subject.

>Come save us from this overwhelming boredom. Please.
...wait how many people are you going to be entertaining by letting them advise your love life.

>Radmin's last known location was the dressing room, and Glamison in the backstage of a concert hall.
Dressing room and backstage aren't public enough for a villainous debut and delivering her challenge.

Obviously, the dressing room is near the ring, and Glam's neat the concert hall. Anything else notable in the area?
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No. 773633 ID: a107fd

>>773629
>Oh thank god.

Kinda curious what she was worried about there.
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No. 773644 ID: bfb318
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773644

"Wait who's us?!"
>"Just Chief and me. Oh, you might want this to be private, don't you?"
"If it's just chief and he can keep this secret then it's fine!"
>"Okay, then come on down."
"And er, were you worried about giving advice on something else?"
>"Don't fret about that!"

You head to Succubus before Murdermouse goes anywhere, since right now, you're unsure of how to make a big splash with her when Radmin and Glamison are in private areas, provided they're still there.

One thing you have access to is the city-wide speaker and video system. You've never used it before, but you're pretty sure it would be a simple thing to teleport Murdermouse in, and use it to make a public announcement. Maybe even make a pre-game challenge for Radison that they have to overcome before they get to fight Murdermouse, but maybe it's best to just get straight to the goal.

The directions to Succubus' apartment are simple and you make it there easily enough, since you could teleport close by and managed to avoid crowds.

"Hello!"
>"Hey Sweatermouse." says Succubus.
>"Hi." Chief says.
"So uh... gosh, this is weird for me to ask advice about seduction isn't it?"
>"Yeah, it is!" Succubus says.

Chief shrugs.

>"I don't think so. You're a social one, but only with small parties that are kept intimate. It shouldn't be a surprise you would want to know all arts of gaining rapport with others."
>"Yeah, but this... oh, nevermind. What practice do you have seducing others, Sweatermouse?" Succubus asks.
"None!"
>"Okay, well I have to know about where I should begin with you, so let's pretend you want to get to know Chief better. Try to seduce Chief for me."
"Uh, er, okay, uh... hey, Chief?"
>"Yeah?"
".... wanna go out?!"
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No. 773645 ID: bfb318
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773645

The Succubus pauses, and you start grinding your teeth lightly just so you don't have to swim in this deafening silence. Finally, the Chief comes to the rescue and breaks the silence.

>"Sure."
"EE"
>"No!" the Succubus yells back. "I mean - okay. Sweatermouse. Take a deep breath. Then try again for real, because I know that's not how you'd approach anyone naturally."
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No. 773648 ID: 211d83

Murdermouse can grab a camera crew of operators and steal Radmin's truck. Then crash it into his dressing room and throw glitter on him while you challenge his team to a match.

As for Chief lets try seducing him properly. You have read books with that sort of thing right?

So saunter up to him and put your finger under his chin and say. "So Chief how about you and me meet back at my place for a little fun?" Then wink and turn around and shake your butt a bit as you walk away.
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No. 773657 ID: 3abd97

>One thing you have access to is the city-wide speaker and video system. You've never used it before, but you're pretty sure it would be a simple thing to teleport Murdermouse in, and use it to make a public announcement. Maybe even make a pre-game challenge for Radison that they have to overcome before they get to fight Murdermouse, but maybe it's best to just get straight to the goal.
Murdermouse could teleport back and forth from the booth. She shows up there, announced herself, cuts to her actual appearance somewhere else, cuts back to comment again. Hijacking something you have access to fits her theme.

Obviously, you leave bombs behind when you teleport out of places in a properly villainous way. (Don't blow up the communications room until your done with it / people are breaking the door down, though).

Hmmm. You can announce your intent to show up Sweater, to prove you're not all wusses, to teach a lesson to the people who have been putting you down pretty easy. Not sure how we work a date into being the prize somehow.

She might even be able to get some of the staff / crew to go along with helping her initially, by "lying" and claiming she's you, and using official ref authority to get a camera crew and stuff one site. Oh, and actually, to initiate the organization and prize for the special wresting series she's setting up.

>Then try again for real, because I know that's not how you'd approach anyone naturally.
Um. In fairness, running up to someone and just going "EE" is pretty natural for me!

Well normally you'd just act vulnerable and/or indigent until they were hugging or teasing you but that's not what you want here and wait did you admit that second part out loud oh gosh don't tell anyone about that.
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No. 773689 ID: bfb318
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773689

>You have read books with that sort of thing right?
... only if fiction counts!

"Welll I'll try, but going 'ee' isn't unnatural!"
>"I meant before, but go on.

You put your finger under Chief's chin.

"So, how about me and I meet back at my place for a little fun?" you say, then wiggle your butt, then remember you should have turned around first.
>"Not stoppin' ya."
"Er, it's... wait no I meant you and I! You and I meet back at my place! For fun!"
>"Like boardgames?"
"Oh my gosh have you played Island Hop it's amazing but I can't find a place where people pl... play iiit. I'm screwing up aren't I."
>"That depends." says Succubus. "Does Chief like board games?"
>"I do." he says. "When I'm able to take time off, but I'm in no mood now."
>"So, the time is bad, but that doesn't matter since this is just practice. Your seduction is on point, Sweater."
"R.... really?!"
>"Yes. You two would have a great time playing board games if you approached Chief while he was less, well, stressed."
"But I thought seduction was like... getting to... attract someone? Uh... wait are you saying I should get Radmin and Glamison to play board games?"
>"Hah! Only if they like them too. It's not that it's board games, it's that it's enjoyable and personable. My point is that, sure, you can wiggle your butt and tap their chin and all that if you like doing that and they like that, but the most important thing to know about seduction is knowing the person you're trying to seduce. Know their likes, dislikes, what makes them tick, their little habits, everything. Be the person they would like that suits all of that."
"That sounds manipulative!"
>"It is. That's the social game in a nutshell. Being manipulative doesn't have to be bad, for instance, you manipulated me into saying 'Hello Sweatermouse' when you came through our door and said 'Hello'. There's nothing wrong with that."
"I, hm... is that really all there is to it?"
>"Technically no, but it all boils down to that, unless you want to run through the thousand and one ways to wiggle your butt at people. Get them to associate you with the things they like, and you'll become the very thing they like. Don't overthink it."
"Well okay!"
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No. 773690 ID: bfb318
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773690

That was easier than you thought!

You're not sure if you should teleport all the time, as the referee teleportation was something you couldn't really control. Murder's teleport is freer, but it's a glitcher given ability that there's no real reason for Murdermouse to have that isn't the truth.

You think that, but right now, Murdermouse is going through her first operation as a villain: infiltrate the Operator's lobby area that Radmin did his first unsanctioned match in, which was also his first match, and bag every single operator working under him. Suprisingly, upon Murdermouse yelling at them to raise their hands for Radmin, all obediently did so. They even cooperated with getting inside of the bags.

Murdermouse then moves out of sight and teleports off to place them in the back of Radmin's truck, one by one, in the public parking lot. The operators, as is typical, seem to have no reaction to their steadily depleting numbers.
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No. 773696 ID: 094652

Now practice seduction on Murdermouse! See, you try to seduce her while she tries to push you away. Since you're both the same person, this will be like playing chess against yourself, but with prostitution!
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No. 773697 ID: 211d83

Oh ask Glitcher if he can make you a evil volcano lair out in the bay with a big evil lair on top with a wrestling arena.

Then you can kidnap Radmin's operators and keep them there in a giant cage suspended over a lava lake. (with a little ice cream stand and some sitting pillows cause we are not that evil)

So once that is set up you crash his monster truck into wherever he is and give out a evil laugh. State your intentions (Murdermouse got brought back from a old cyle by Glitcher and after making friends with Sweatermouse realized that she was weak and did not deserve Radmin and Glam's attentions. Or something along those lines)

Challenge his team to a match for there Admin slot. And once you win and are in charge you will take what Sweater was to nervous to ask for by force!

Man this is going to be confusing. Oh well Radmin and Glam should figure the game out quickly and have fun with it.
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No. 773698 ID: 3abd97

>"It is. That's the social game in a nutshell. Being manipulative doesn't have to be bad, for instance, you manipulated me into saying 'Hello Sweatermouse' when you came through our door and said 'Hello'. There's nothing wrong with that."
Well if it's all about doing things they like then I guess this prank thing you're about to start sure is seducing Radmin!

...try not to think about if this means Radmin and Glitcher have been seducing each other this whole time. Oops, you did. Which means now Glitcher is thinking about it too. Wait does that count as you seducing Glitcher oh gosh I'm sorry Rulekeep!

>>773690
Plant bombs in the truck to light it up. Then we should rig it to crash through the wall. (Maybe just an Operator to do it for you, after they hear you say a certain keyword over the broadcast. Turn on the truck radio for em). So then you go make your speech, the truck goes through the wall, Radmin gets upset, then you blow it up and laugh evilly.
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No. 773702 ID: 493b5f

Ok, you have the seduction tips, now ask for confidence tips. Also maybe tell them the full plan? They know enough already that they'll figure it out once everything starts to go down. That way, after thanking them for the actual seduction help, you can ask if she has any acting seductive advice, like the stereotypical saucy scandal being a big ol' tease behavior.

Well, not the pure stereotype, for murdermouse it'll be flavored with being a villain and being all taunting and that. But you know.
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No. 773709 ID: bfb318
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773709

"So, uh, if pranks are liked by both Radmin and Glitcher, does that mean they've been seducing one another?"
>"No, but that's a whole other can of worms. Assuming they both like getting pranked, it doesn't mean they like all pranks, plus, there's a whole lot more to each other than their prank game. I don't know their relationship that well, though, but Radmin is probably too self-absorbed. Heh, if you did a prank, Glitcher would probably think it cuter than if Radmin did the exact same thing."
"Am I seducing Glitcher?!"
>"N... probably not? Just focus on who you're after for now."
"Radmin and Glamison!"
>"Yes, those two then."
"Thanks! Oh wait do you have any tips on being confidence?"
>"Oh, geez... that's tough, unless I just shower you with stereotypical stuff like 'be positive' and 'set up small tasks you know you can succeed with'.

You think of what it would be like to have Sweatermouse seduce Murdermouse. It would guarantee success! But you don't think you'd be more confident over a success like that.

Also you'd probably fail.

"Okayokay I need to come clean I'm gonna be controlling another body called Murdermouse and that was actual seduction help on a way broader scale than I expected! And that's nice and thank you for that but since I'm controlling someone named Murdermouse I'm going to be doing a lot of stuff I'm too shy to do normally, and that means acting saucy and like a villain and being all taunting and teasing and I was honestly hoping on advice on acting seductive!"
>"Um... huh. Honestly, Sweatermouse, it's hard to see you like that. Like, really hard. I don't want to be unhelpful, but I don't know if it's going to be you, even if that's kind of the point with this alter ego stuff. Why exactly do you want to do this?"

I spill out the entire plan.

>"Wow. I mean, that sounds entertaining for watchers, but most people would just build up the nerve to, you know, go and talk with them. Normally. Like people. Instead of all that, and learning how to be an actual seductress."
>"Are you trying to keep the girl innocent, Succubus?" asks Chief.
>"... yeah, I guess I am."
>"Why're you called Succubus again?"
>"Hey now, I didn't name myself!"
>"Oh right. I named you that, didn't I. Anyway, teach the poor girl how to strut herself if she wants to know."
>"Heh, what, are you into that, now?"
>"No, but I can appreciate irony, and this? I have got to see this."
>"Wait, this is actually taking your mind off work, isn't it... okay. Alright, Sweatermouse, I don't personally approve, but it's two against one, I'll teach you how to move your body."
>"Murdermouse, though? That's cheesy."
>"I get it."

Succubus takes me into a more open area, and starts training while I also move around with Murdermouse.
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No. 773711 ID: bfb318
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773711

Back at Murdermouse...

"Glitcher can I have a big evil volcano lair out in the bay with a big evil lair on top with a wrestling arena?!"
>"I don't see why not! But you can't teleport there until you've been there."
"What why not?"
>"I'm not that helpful. Look, I'll make an underground tunnel you can drive through, or there's boats in the harbor, whatever. Or you can just forget about the lair, move the operators somewhere else, and drive the truck right into Radmin's dressing room to get started."
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No. 773713 ID: 211d83

Teleporting would ruin the chance for a exciting car/boat chase.

So why not put the operators in the back of the truck throw a net over them so they don't fall out and then drive the truck into Radmin's room. Then he has to chase you to try and rescue them.

Tell Succubus that you thought of just wandering over and talking with Radmin and Glam but you wanted to do something special and get in on the silly fun they have been having with the wrestling. And then it just sort of ballooned into a big confusing mess but it should still be fun.

Worst case you apologize for the confusing plot and go on a normal date.
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No. 773714 ID: 398fe1

You really can't go wrong with driving a truck into someone's room.

Also I'm kindof against Sweatermouse corrupting herself. No need to get physical, and she got Radmin and Radison's attention by being her original self.
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No. 773722 ID: 3abd97

>"Radmin and Glamison!"
I'm surprised you admitted to who you were after, much less that you're going after two people at once.

>I spill out the entire plan.
But Sweater, these two were supposed to be your alibi. Now they know the truth and they need to lie for you! And if they don't lie the whole thing is ruined!

...oh well at least they both have experience being good liars. Even if that's a mean thing to think about someone.

>>"No, but I can appreciate irony, and this? I have got to see this."
Pffff, oh goodness, we found a dastardly plan good enough to earn Chief's approval. We're on the right track!

> I don't want to be unhelpful, but I don't know if it's going to be you, even if that's kind of the point with this alter ego stuff. Why exactly do you want to do this?
Because things got all messed up last time and I want to do something to fix it and it'll be awkward if I go up and ask them to come after me so I have to do something to go after them so things will be good again, and silly crazy prank stuff is right up Radmin's alley, and Glam not as much but I think she likes all the drama and theater of it and yeah that's why I guess.

>Or you can just forget about the lair, move the operators somewhere else, and drive the truck right into Radmin's dressing room to get started.
The lair is probably over-complicating it, and gives away that you got Glitcher or Rulekeep or one of the kids to help you, which makes your act more suspicious.
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No. 773724 ID: 91ee5f

>>773722
All of this.
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No. 773726 ID: bfb318
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773726

>No need to get physical
Hugs are nice though you wouldn't want to shy away from those.

"Oh wait no it'll be way too obvious I got glitcher help if I have a super secret base involved! I want this to seem as glitcher and rulekeep free as possible!"
>"Well a pleasure to keep your company too!"
"Oh nooo no no that's not wh-!"
>"Well hello there Sweatermouse I thought I was talking to Murdermouse! Also I'm just messing with you. Gosh. You're right, you know, that's using your noggin."
"Thanks and you'r - I mean, yeah, I am smart, I know it! I'll take it from here!"

Glitcher leaves, and Sweatermouse takes the wheel.

Murdermouse has found her first predicament.
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No. 773728 ID: 493b5f

Obviously Murdermouse needs to start her crime spree by stealing a smaller car!

I was about to say, in order to explain all her shenanigans, maybe you could suggest to Glitcher that the evil Sweatermouse found an evil Glitcher to help her. I mean, there are still some other old Glitchers around? She could convince one of them maybe? Only not really that'd just be the story, it'd be your Glitcher his own self making another body to puppet and playing this game too. If he wants to. All the glitchkeeper family would be in on it, of course.

He's vanished back away now, though.
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No. 773729 ID: 211d83

Dang. Well go find some broomsticks and make some things to hit the pedals. And then a box to sit on.

That or used Murdermouses super strength and invincibility to just suplex the truck into the wall.
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No. 773730 ID: 3abd97

>>773726
Sit on the bag of Operators so you can see over the wheel.

And use another bag to hold the gas down. It's okay if you can't break, because you're a villain and you plan to crash this car and blow it up anyways!
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No. 773732 ID: b2db3f

Yeah just hurl the car through his window/wall. Can't just copy Radmin and his truck driving ways. Got to mix it up.
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No. 773734 ID: 91ee5f

>>773726
What the? I thought Glitcher made Murdermouse taller than Sweatermouse? Or was that a just a mannequin he made to show off an idea that Sweatermouse didn't choose?
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No. 773736 ID: 91ee5f

>>773734
Wait, what's that behind the seat? There's something white sticking up over the top of the seat.
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No. 773746 ID: 094652

Stack up. Literally. Murdermouse on the wheel, Sweatermouse on the gas.
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No. 773750 ID: bfb318
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773750

>I thought Glitcher made Murdermouse taller
That was an option but Murdermouse was chosen to be like Sweatermouse but not!

>Wait, what's that behind the seat?
Radmin's litter!

Murdermouse doesn't need to drive! She can just pick it up! Or try to!

Oh try to! Yes, after testing it, you are able to pick up the car!
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No. 773751 ID: bfb318
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773751

But the wheels don't list. You're so short, that even the undercarriage is too high to push the wheels off. The wheels also turn whenever you try to lift it up with those and all around the whole thing is awful.
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No. 773752 ID: bfb318
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773752

You gather some operator bags, stack them on the chair, get ready to drive, then throw a bag on the accellerator and go riding off.

Radmin's dressing room isn't far off, and you have a good mental layout of the stadium, which is good, because you have to stay low enough to reach far enough to steer, and even then it's troublesome. In short, you can't see much of anything.

>"Why, what's that sound I hear nearby?" asks Radmin, who can't be more than 10 feet from the truck. "Oh yeah, I know that noise, I hear it often! It's the noise I hear when someone else is making a horrible, horrible mistake!"
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No. 773753 ID: 094652

And now, stealth!

Also, bomb the operatives.
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No. 773758 ID: 398fe1

>>773752
Yeah what are you gonna do about it without your Operators... BADMIN?
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No. 773759 ID: 91ee5f

>>773752
Drive through Radmin's dressing room while screaming, "WHOOOO!!!!! THANKS FOR THE TRUCK LOSER!!!!!"

Or you could drive into Radmin's dressing room, jump out and say, "HERE'S A PRESENT FOR YA!!!!!" and then blow up his truck and Operators!
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No. 773763 ID: 07685c

Guys, we're forgetting someone.

What's to stop sevener from getting involved?
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No. 773779 ID: 211d83

>>773763

I think once Sevener sees us attacking Radmin she will instantly realize whats going on and sigh a lot and leave.

I hope.
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No. 773788 ID: 3abd97

>What's to stop sevener from getting involved?
The fact that she wouldn't be voluntarily hanging out in the dressing room with Radmin if she could avoid it.

>It's the noise I hear when someone else is making a horrible, horrible mistake!
"How can you hear that over the noise of your own mistakes, Badmin? Especially when they come due?"

Taunt him, force him to come to you to try and get you out of the car, or see who it is, then teleport out to the video center and blow the bombs.

Then we display the footage of you blowing up Radmin and make your evil villian speech.
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No. 773820 ID: 493b5f

Shout to ask if Sevener's there and that this is a callout for Radmin that doesn't involve her. I think it'd fit Murdermouse's persona to think Sevener is pretty cool?
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No. 773830 ID: bfb318
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773830

You reach down and have the operator roll over to the left to hit the brakes. You still end up crashing the hood through the back wall, but you can see over the window better than over the hood, so it all works out.

"Thanks for the truck Badmin! Should I yell harder, because if you can hear people's mistakes, I'm surprised you're not deafened by the thunder going on in that skull of yours! Anyway, I was just here to set off a present!" Murdermouse says, pulling out a bomb.

It doesn't look like Sevener is here. You would think she'd have said or done something by now, but you look around just in case.
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No. 773831 ID: bfb318
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773831

You were just about to pull out a bomb, but something else catches your eye.
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No. 773834 ID: bfb318
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773834

>"S-so cool."

That's not you! You're still with Succubus, or at least, Sweatermouse-you is.

Sweatermouse asks Succubus to hold on a moment, and looks up the other sweatermouses. This one is from the very first cycle.
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No. 773835 ID: 3abd97

>>773834
Well great, it's kind of different if you're lying to one of your sisters instead of lying to Radmin, although this does make it a lot more believable there are multiples of you running around.

>"S-so cool."
"That's right, sis I am cool! And I darn sick of the way these wrestlers have been making Sweater-ref and all the rest of us Sweatermice look bad! I'm here to show her up for being a wuss, and I'm here to show you up for the way you've treated her, Radmin! Look at you, you're even canoodling with one of her twins in your dressing room!"

Make your determined speech then teleport out and explode the truck.
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No. 773836 ID: 211d83

Ah ha I knew it! My plan to steal away Radmin away from Sweatermouse was the best plan! Because my wishy washy sister can't even keep other Sweatermouses from stealing him away from her.

Well maybe she would be willing to share but I am evil and want him and Glam all to myself!

Whisper to cycle 1 Sweater "But hey want to hang out after this? Am just having a fun wrestling game with Radmin. Don't blow my cover as I am not actually evil just in character."
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No. 773840 ID: 3abd97

>>773836
Don't tell the truth to other-Sweater yet. Sweatermouse can barely trust herself not to blurt out the secret as is.
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No. 773842 ID: 395c02

>>773835
This sounds in keeping with the character you're trying to go for.
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No. 773849 ID: 91ee5f

>>773834
Since Sweatermouse just told Succubus and Chief her plan, would it be ok if she tells Succubus and Chief (since he's tagging along because he wants to see how entertaining this will be) what she, as Murdermouse, is currently seeing?
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No. 773850 ID: 91ee5f

>>773849
Also, do this: >>773835 .
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No. 773857 ID: b2db3f

Well this complicates things. Be careful with the seduction part of your plan. It might have to wait until later now.

Mostly because feelings could get hurt if you are not careful. You becoming a wrestler and pranking Radmin should stay somewhat separate from you wanting to seduce him. Otherwise could be some confusion and a mess of hurt feelings.

Hopefully he brought Sweatermouse 1 here to try and learn more about you. I bet after you disappeared and stayed in hiding he wanted to figure out a way of doing roughly what you are trying now. He was worried that he came on to hard and scared you.

>>773835 Seems like a good direction to go. Keep things silly and based on wrestling to start. Once everyone gets comfortable then you can mix in some seduction stuff.
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No. 773865 ID: 493b5f

Well, you do have a kind of fangirl personality, that might be universal to sweatermice! If so, and if she's reacting this way to you, she's probably been watching the wrestling and has become a fan of Radmin. Maybe Radmin noticed her and called her in to get advice about talking to you? Well, in any case, this gives you material.

Deliver an "Oho ho ho ho!" and then start monologing. Remember, you've got to really ham it up!

"As I would suspect, you rogue! You get denied the blueberry, so you go running to stuff your face with the original recipe! Well now, hot and spicy is here to tell you I think maybe you don't deserve to stuff your face, you pig! I've heard how you treat Sweatermice, and I don't think I approve! Refermouse told me aaaaaallll about you and Glamison! Poor, sweet, innocent Referee sister. She wanted to know how she should approach you again! Well, I think you should be the ones having to approach her... through a gauntlet of fire, to prove your dedication! You're not getting any more Sweatermouse until you and Glamison defeat me in dishonorable wrestling combat! And on that subject..."

(You grab first-cycle Sweatermouse.)

"Yoink! See you in the ring, luch-douche! If you can even get there!"

Then escape with originalmouse by jumping away from the explosion or teleporting away with her or something.
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No. 773878 ID: 87353e

Yes! Kidnap that First Edition SweaterMouse!
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No. 773889 ID: 398fe1

Wait, no. Kidnapping is ACTUALLY mean, and also impossible because of Safe Zone rules.
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No. 773890 ID: 211d83

>>773889

Safe zone just means we cant hurt her. We can grab her and drag her along with us. And we don't want to hurt her. Just have her along for the ride and let her in on the fun.
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No. 773893 ID: 3abd97

>>773890
We tested that in an early safe zone (when Swordsman was being a jerk and a spaz, I think). If you try to restrain or drag someone against their will for more than a little bit they just get teleported out of your grip.

First Edition Sweater would be able to break free so long as she wanted to. She might not object to being abducted by her cool sister. (Or she might object on the surface, but be fine with it really, much like Sweatermouse's own reaction to teasing). Although that assumes safe zone rules. Wrestling has been sort of a weird hybrid of safe zone and free roam depending on circumstances.
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No. 773895 ID: 493b5f

>>773889

If we jump down beside her and do a cheesy sisterly one-arm-hug around her during the speech, we could probably get the chance to whisper into her ear asking her to play along.

I mean, we're in costume wrestler mode. I think everyone around here knows that Murdermouse's over-the-top accusations and challenges are still ultimately just going to be for fun and show.
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No. 773902 ID: 15a025

Your gosh darn right it's cool sis. Now hop in and let's blow this pop stand.
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No. 773963 ID: e6e9af

>>773878

Wait, what better way to practice how to enjoy stuff with Radmin and Glamison (should our future dates progress like that again) than by kidnapping an us that isn't US and practicing with them!?

First Edition Sweatermouse is totally all over Murdermouse, which would definitely make for a great training montage in figuring out both what we like and what we can comfortably do.

I mean, that's the point of all this, right? To understand our boundaries and whatnot?

(And besides, if it's another Sweatermouse, is it really too much of a worry?)
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No. 774077 ID: bfb318
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774077

Murdermouse stands on the window frame. One of the reporters flys into the dressing room, and is probably recording this live.

"Ohhohoho! You're right about that Sis, I am cool! Now, Radmin, I'm here for two reasons. One! To show everyone not all sweatermice can be pushed around without danger of pushing back! Like you're probably doing right now!""
>"Actually!" says First Edition Sweatermouse. "He thought I was this cycle's Sweatermouse. He kinda kidnapped me at first but it wasn't really pushing me around!"
"... second, this cycle's referee mouse told me all about you, and how to best approach you, and you know what? I don't think you or Glamison are good enough for Sweatermouse! You're not seeing her until you and Glamison defeat me in dishonorable wrestling combat!"
>"Ha, that's the very kind of wrestling combat that I'm best at, and even I'm reluctant to accept it!"
"Wwwwait, are you scared?!"
>"Scared? No, I'm kind! And me, fighting you? That would be like a grown warrior fighting a tantrumming child, because that's exactly what it is, you vs me respectively! Why, it would be no fun for anyone, least of all me!"
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No. 774078 ID: bfb318
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774078

Bomb time is now, you think.

Murdermouse leaps down, grabs Sweatermouse, leaps back up, and drops a bomb in her wake.

"Well, if you don't want to fight, then I guess you won't need your truck or operators anymore! Meet me in the ring, or else!"
>"AHHH" Sweatermouse screams as you roll away.

You're not sure how well safe zone rules apply here, but you recognize that scream as excited concern and confusion but not of an unpleasant sort. In other words, First Edition is fine.
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No. 774079 ID: bfb318
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774079

You pull her in and toss her to the seat.

>"Where are you taking me?!"
"Away from the explosion!"
>"O-oh thanks I guess?!"

Your tablet starts making a ringing noise. It's Glamison calling.
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No. 774080 ID: 3abd97

>"Actually!" says First Edition Sweatermouse. "He thought I was this cycle's Sweatermouse. He kinda kidnapped me at first but it wasn't really pushing me around!"
He shouldn't be kidnapping anyone, least of all us!

>>774079
Careful, you can't watch your phone and the road at the same time. Don't crash except when it's on purpose!

>Glamison calling
Um, is that Sweatermouse's tablet (so Glam thinks she's calling you) or did you get Murdermouse a tablet already? (So Glam is trying to call other-you).

If that's not a new phone you either can't answer, or you have to pretend you stole it.

>You're not seeing her until you and Glamison defeat me in dishonorable wrestling combat
We have to make the a date the official prize, but it needs to be ambiguously worded so you can face heel turn to light side at the last minute, win, and then claim a date with them as the prize instead of them claiming a date with you, or you winning a date with yourself.
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No. 774081 ID: 211d83

Did Glitcher give you a murdermouse number? Or do you have a phone on each body now?

If you can't answer it with your Sweater body then maybe pretend that you have stolen Sweatermouses phone (and her). Having this other Sweatermouse next to you can help sell things.

Before you answer whisper to Cycle 1 to play along. It's a fun date thing and if she wants to join in the fun she can.
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No. 774092 ID: 493b5f

Just answer the phone as Murdermouse. If Glamison acts surprised like she was expecting to talk to Sweatermouse, say that you took the phone from her.

Then, either way, deliver your challenge again.
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No. 774095 ID: 094652

Make sure you answer Glamison AT HOME, and not on a tablet where she can totally track you and realize you're in Radmin's van. She might get ideas.
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No. 774197 ID: e6e9af

>>774080
>>774081
>>774092

Oh, good idea! We deliver the challenge by pretending to have taken Sweatermouse's phone to prove ... uh, whatever that was. About how they need to show they're capable. Or something.
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No. 774247 ID: bfb318
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774247

Murdermouse has her own number, so Glamison must have looked up Murdermouse on the directory. The call is answered.

>Careful, you can't watch your phone and the road at the same time.
Honestly, you can't really see the road anyways, at least not anything that's not as high as the hood.
"Murdermouse speaking!"
>"Hi! I saw your stunt with Radmin. So you don't think I'm good enough for sweatermouse, huh?"
"Not till you prove it!"
>"Well who're you to decide that?"
"Murdermouse! And who're you to decide it?"
>"No one! Sweatermouse is the one to say it, because she's a smart girl who can make decisions for herself!"
"Aww ge - I mean she's got to stick up for herself more, but if she won't, then I will!"
>"... you know what, I'll fight you, just to show that it's unbecoming for sweatermice to be a fighter in the ring!"
"What!"
>"You heard me! Now drive that truck over to the ring and Radmin and I will be over in just a minute!"
"How do you know I'm in a truck?!"
>"I hope you fight better than you drive, because otherwise this is going to be one big disappointment!"

Glamison points her phone backwards to show monster truck sized tire tracks on her tail.

Sweatermouse receives a text message from Radmin.

'Hey SM come Referee my match I'm going to beat up your sister then go out for some pizza and ice cream.'
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No. 774248 ID: 3abd97

>Ran over Glam's tail
Whups. I guess you owe her an apology at the end of this.

>>"... you know what, I'll fight you, just to show that it's unbecoming for sweatermice to be a fighter in the ring!"
That's so mean! But then I guess you were kind of mean to her first. Man you hope you aren't messing everything up.

>'Hey SM come Referee my match I'm going to beat up your sister then go out for some pizza and ice cream.'
Time for an appropriately Sweatermouse response.

"You're going to WHAT?! That is not something nice people celebrate!!!!!!"

But yeah real-you should use ref powers to get to the ring and be properly outraged about all this. At everyone. Except maybe First Edition, she didn't do anything but get kidnapped twice.
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No. 774251 ID: 7397ab

Have Sweater text back. "Wait sister? Do you mean Murder? She was muttering about doing something crazy."

"So are you going out alone for pizza and ice cream? Or do have room for a little Sweatermouse? Sort of wanted to continue things where we left off with Glamison last time.
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No. 774256 ID: 398fe1

>>774247
Sweatermouse cannot referee the fight, she's not impartial. Both publicly and secretly.
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No. 774258 ID: 91ee5f

>>774247
>Glamison points her phone backwards to show monster truck sized tire tracks on her tail.
"Hey! That's not my fault! It's Radmin's fault for having such a big truck! And it's also your fault for having such a long tail and not moving out of the way of a giant truck that's impossible to not see coming unless you're blind!"
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No. 774291 ID: 493b5f

Say to Glamison: "Whoops! Sorry Glam, don't know how I didn't see your huge back end grinding under me! Stripes look good on you though. Maybe I'll stripe your hide a bit more in the ring! See you there!!"

Text Radmin back: "Uh she already asked me to ref your match, she says she wants me to be watching. Sorry about this! I don't think she's really mean she's trying to help but in a kind of bossy acting mean way and also she wants to be part of the show? Don't underestimate her she somehow has weird powers, she canpk[dssfdssdlkj;n Murdermouse here, boy I told you you're not seeing her until you and Glamison defeat me! And before you get smart about her being at the match that's "seeing" in the sense of hanging out, chatting or romance! So no phone calls!!"

I think during the match you should pretend Murdermouse has weird hax powers or something that give her some ability to restrain Sweatermouse. I'd bet that at some point Radmin or Glamison will go pull the "oh let's see what Sweatermouse thinks it's up to her bluh bluh" tactic, and it'd be handy if Murdermouse can just go "nope" and click her finger at Sweatermouse and Sweatermouse mimes like she's trying to talk but she's been muted.

If there's time before the match, maybe have a little talk with First Edition, bring her into the loop and see what she thinks.

Also: since the basis of this match is an issue of romance and intimacy, and it has a set of particularly saucy competitors, perhaps it should open up with some disclaimer for people who don't want to see salacious shenanigans? Or, I dunno, is there some equivalent of an adult hour on the broadcasts or something?
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No. 774337 ID: 791a6c

>>774256
Indeed. Instead, she should send a very obvious dummy "posing" as Sweatermouse.
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No. 774400 ID: 3ace27

>>774247

This is turning out better than expected! We learn to stand up for yourself, and these two show how much they care for us!

And top all that off with pizza and ice cream? Talk about the best date ever!
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No. 774448 ID: bfb318
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774448

"Whoops, I don't know how I didn't see your huge back tail grinding under me! Except that I think it's believable if you managed to not see a giant truck coming your way!"
>"You came through the wall!"
"Well, I, for one, think that stripes look good on you."
>"... wait do you mean that or are you being condescending."
"I mean it! I mean you must think so too if you let yourself get ran over!"
>"Whatever just meet us in the ring!"
"Yeah, then maybe I'll stripe your hide a bit more in the ring!"
>"... wait did you just give me innuendo?
"... wait what? I just mean I'm gonna like, tie you up with the ropes or something!"
>"Oh my."
"That's not an appropriate reaction!"
>"I think it is."

Glamison hangs up, so Murdermouse speaks to first edition.

"So want me to drop you off somewhere?"
>"Oh yeah there's a game building somewhere out of this building and I wanted to stop by so if it's not too inconvenient could you stop there?"
"Mayyybe, but wait, you're not going out with Radmin, are you?"
>"Oh nono, he's all yours, I have someone else!"
"I - what?"
>"Oh wait I'm sorry are you not either?"
"Nevermind!"

You don't know if you can trust another you to not talk, so you decide on keeping her out of the loop. The game building is out of the way, but you don't believe that it would make Murdermouse forfeit her fight or anything.

Furthermore, Murdermouse's evil meter is at a mere three stars. While it might be acceptable in a one on one fight, she'll have a difficult time if she has to fight both of them at the same time.

>Perhaps warn viewers of the incoming salacious shenanigans, or put make it an adult hour of the broadcast
You're not going to get that saucy!
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No. 774449 ID: bfb318
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774449

Sweatermouse replies to Radmin.

"Beating up my sister isn't something a nice person celebrates!"
>"Murdermouse isn't a nice person, is she?"
"She's trying to help in her own way!"
>"An evil way!"
"A helpful way!"
>"Sorry, my cute little punching bag, but I think my opinion is well settled upon those who steal my truck, steal my operators, then throw a bomb in my face! An opinion that they are evil. Also a fact but that's less important."
"So wait are you going out alone for pizza and ice cream, or do you have room for a little Sweatermouse?"
>"Hahaha what loner goes out for pizza and ice cream alone?! You and Glamison are coming with me!"
"Oh okay that sounds like the best!"

You think you'll try to keep this from getting any more complex and show up in person, rather than, say, have Murdermouse have a false-sweatermouse to referee the fight for her own advantage, which is actually the real sweatermouse in disguise.

>Sweatermouse cannot referee the fight, she's not impartial.
While absolutely true, you don't actually think that that's actually something that would bar Sweatermouse from refereeing.
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No. 774453 ID: c441c1

>>774449
We can just say we were bribed with dilicous cheesy Pizza that is why we clearly aren't upholding the rules of wrestling.
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No. 774456 ID: 3abd97

>Your taunting just ends up with you blatantly flirting with Glamison
Pffffff. Well, either this plan isn't working as well as you hoped, or it's gone horribly right.

>Oh nono, he's all yours, I have someone else!
Oh, really?

You'll have to put actually catching up with your sister on the to do list when you're not kipnapping her in the process of straightening out your own love life.

>You think you'll try to keep this from getting any more complex and show up in person, rather than, say, have Murdermouse have a false-sweatermouse to referee the fight for her own advantage, which is actually the real sweatermouse in disguise.
I... thought doing that exact thing was the whole point of having two bodies and not just dressing up.

And Sweatermouse should try to be a good ref, it's just Murdermouse can counter by using Ref Rules to cheat.
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No. 774464 ID: 398fe1

>>774449
Alright, ref your own fight then.

If you need more Naughtiness stars, you can prank First Edition Sweatermouse as you drop her off. Like give her a wedgie or give her a "present" that is actually a bomb in a box.
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No. 774466 ID: 211d83

We should catch up after all of this. Then give Prime your number. Oh and make sure to kick her out of the truck when you drop her off to raise your evil meter.

Sounds like your date stuff should go well. Just got to get your evil meter up enough to make the match a fight. Without hurting anyone's feelings that is.

Have Murder get on the phone and use the announcement system to tell everyone about the match. Got to get a crowd ready. Describe in detail how you are going to thrash Radmin for being a big jerk and toying with your sisters affections. And how after today everyone will know the name Murdermouse!
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No. 774478 ID: e6e9af

>>774449

Actually yeah, let's totally ref the fight. Play it up that Murdermouse is our big sister looking out for us (even if she's actually just us learning to be assertive about what we want -- which is Radmin and Glamison and probably cuddles. Lots of them).
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No. 774480 ID: 91ee5f

Wait, would Sweatermouse actually be able to coordinate both bodies in the middle of a match without accidentally having the wrong body say/do something that was meant for the other body to say/do?
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No. 774594 ID: 493b5f

Hmm. You know, if you were worried about not being able to look at certain things the same way after you'd gotten intimate with someone, maybe body separation would help with that? If you set things up for a sort of "when I'm in this body it's private personal fun, and in this body it's innocence and public stuff", maybe it would create a sort of sense of a "switch" in your mind, that you flip one way or the other to think in slightly different ways? I mean, some people accomplish something similar by just wearing different clothes. Just an idea.

Anyway, if you want to raise Murdermouse's villainy, maybe she should go to the ring ahead of time and set up some tricksy traps or hidden extra weapons and things for herself. Like maybe put a secret cache in one of the ring posts, or a hidden drop net in the ceiling lights that can be activated remotely.

Or maybe she could "capture" Sweatermouse, leave her tied up on a podium or something, able to see the ring and speak so she can referee, but restrained so Murdermouse can claim that Radmin and Glamison won't get their date unless they win. With ambiguous wording, like "You think you can make plans before you've even won? You two need to face me in a match first, victory earns a date!", that would imply they need to win to get a date but technically means the winner gets a date if it's you too, would allow you to still fight and try to win without lying or giving up the date.
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No. 774798 ID: 8111b6

Would it be evil to tease and torment about this 'somone else'? After all, you know how you are about that kind of stuff. Tossing her out of the still moving truck is an option, too, but kinda mean.

Also, sweatermouse being the ref adds to the drama! You've gotta consider the narrative aspect of it! True, she and ref sweatermouse are the same, but the audience doesn't know that.
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No. 774811 ID: 91ee5f

>>774594
>Or maybe she could "capture" Sweatermouse, leave her tied up on a podium or something, able to see the ring and speak so she can referee, but restrained so Murdermouse can claim that Radmin and Glamison won't get their date unless they win. With ambiguous wording, like "You think you can make plans before you've even won? You two need to face me in a match first, victory earns a date!", that would imply they need to win to get a date but technically means the winner gets a date if it's you too, would allow you to still fight and try to win without lying or giving up the date.
A good way to do that would be if Murdermouse can and took Sweatermouse in the middle of her call with Radmin! That'll hopefully get Radmin to react with a look on his face that says, "Oh, hell no! She did not just do that!"

But if that can't happen, then after Sweatermouse hangs up the phone with Radmin, she should tell Succubus that the plan is moving a little ahead of schedule and if she and Chief want to see what's going to happen, they should head over to the ring. And hurry before all the good seats are taken!
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No. 775099 ID: bfb318
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775099

"Thanks for everything Succubus, but plans are moving up so I've got to get going!" says Sweatermouse. "If you want to see the match, you should come to the ring before all the good seats are taken!"
>"The TV's fine. It's just as good of a view as the stadium, except people aren't constantly bumping into me." says Chief.
>"Good luck, Sweaterstuff." Succubus waves you off with her tail.
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No. 775100 ID: bfb318
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775100

>Wasn't false-but-real-sweatermouse reffing the fight the whole point of having two bodies and not just dressing up?
You think the point was to have the real-sweatermouse reffing the fight, not real but acting like a fake but turns out to be real sweatermouse refereeing.

Murdermouse drives to where First Edition wants to be dropped off.

>"Please slow down it's coming rig - " she starts, but Murdermouse picks her up and throws her out of the window. You notice that Murdermouse's meter has been increasing steadily, instead of just jumping up suddenly when you threw First Edition out. Judging by the bumps in the roads and all the commotion, you may be running over more people.

You're a little late to start secretly rigging the ring with nets on the rafters and bomb caches in the ring posts, but no one would know that. In other words, you could get glitcher to set up some traps in the ring for Murdermouse, without anyone knowing that there was glitcher intervention.
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No. 775112 ID: c441c1

Traps sounds like an evil and fun thing to do. But it will be even more fun if anyone can use them have Glitcher set them up but don't tell you where they are and see how it goes.
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No. 775114 ID: 3abd97

>You think the point was to have the real-sweatermouse reffing the fight, not real but acting like a fake but turns out to be real sweatermouse refereeing.
Um, right. What you said. (Gosh this is all so complicated)!

>Judging by the bumps in the roads and all the commotion, you may be running over more people.
>not even sure if you're running people over
Well I guess you earned your evil card, all right. (Yes, of course, you're a card carrying member. Aren't all bad guys?).

>In other words, you could get glitcher to set up some traps in the ring for Murdermouse
It's evil to cheat, and you're going to need the edge to keep ahead of Glam and Radmin since they have more experience at this than you.

Just remember you can't give Radmin a chance to look around and find any of your traps before the fight starts. Dirty tricks are his thing and he would totally steal your traps and reuse the stuff.
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No. 775121 ID: 7397ab

If you get more evil points for running over people take the long way into the stadium and drive the truck in via the upstairs parking ramp. That way you can drive down to the ring over the audience.

Yeah ask Glitcher if he would mind helping you with evil traps. If not we can make due.
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No. 775175 ID: 3c2ab4

When you get to the ring drive the truck RIGHT at Radmin.

"I think your monster truck has an inherent flaw, Radmin!"

Blow up the truck.

"It's combustible."
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No. 775326 ID: 15a025

If we're gonna get some more help from glitcher, we should trick out Radmin's truck with some glitcher styled car decorations.
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No. 775327 ID: 76b09c

Traps sound good.

Be prepared for what exactly the traps do to be a surprise to you too.
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No. 775493 ID: b412df

Traps are evil, which fits what you're going for. Although maybe don't go to far with them, as not to give you too much of a advantage, since it'll also raise your evil meter. I don't think a steamroll of a fight will be fun for either you or Radmin and Glamison.
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No. 776134 ID: bfb318
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776134

Sweatermouse runs out in front of the monster truck's path just in time to get ""kidnapped"", while Murdermouse multitasks by asking for some retroactively placed traps.

>Don't steamroll them
You don't think your bar can go high enough to count as a steamroll!

Murdermouse makes her way to the stadium, but instead of driving through the appropriate lanes, she crashes through the top level of the stadium wall and begins driving down the viewing area, running over whoever happens to get in the way.

Traps are made. Murdermouse is only given vague ideas about how the traps work and what exactly they do.

Apparently some of the structure above the ring can have its connection blown up, dropping various stuff onto the ring. Parts of the ring itself are unstable, and can be remotely detonated to drop people standing over the spots to fall through the ring. At least 2 of the posts have bombs planted in them, which will destabilize or remove the connected ropes if blown up.

The commentator's desk is also rigged to explode at Murdermouse's command.

Lastly, a few sweatermice have just sent messages to Murdermouse saying that if she gives the word, they'll run in and help if they can.

At the bottom, Radmin and Glamison can be seen inside of the ring. Sweatermouse can be tied up if preferred, and Murdermouse can either drive straight into the ring, or enter the ring in some other way.

Blowing up the truck is also an option.
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No. 776139 ID: 211d83

Tie Sweatermouse to a pole and plant her like a flag somewhere out in the open. She can ref from there and the winner can untie her (or not).

Drive the truck right up to the ring so you can blow it up after throwing someone on or in it later. But not over the ring cause we need that for wrestling.
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No. 776145 ID: a363ac

throw sweatermouse into the commentators desk seat. Then while standing on the hood of the Monster truck blow it up and land in the ring like the awesome mouse you are.
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No. 776150 ID: 3abd97

>The commentator's desk is also rigged to explode at Murdermouse's command.
Um. Who are the commenters now?

>Murdermouse can either drive straight into the ring, or enter the ring in some other way.
Pull up in the car, make it look like you're going to get out of it, then have it explode.

Enter the ring from the opposite side, having teleported out first.

Murdermouse makes her opening speech about what she's trying to do, gets to set the stakes. Sweatermouse gets to be appropriately indigent about all of this. No gag, but you can be tied up (have the sleeves of the sweater tied together).
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No. 776192 ID: 334e1c

Tie up SM, throw SM into the commentator's desk.
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No. 776193 ID: 65ec8d

Tie up SM and prop her up somewhere she can oversee the ring and referee. Not somewhere that she'll be easily retrievable, unless you want to be pulled down and used as a weapon at some point.
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No. 776210 ID: 398fe1

Sweatermouse being tied up for an extended period will look strange since because of Safe Zone rules she can get out of it at any time. But I mean we could still do that and toss her somewhere at which point she'll get out of the ropes and start doing her job.
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No. 776218 ID: 91ee5f

>>776210
That's a good point.
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No. 776228 ID: a8bc5c

Blow the truck up with SM in it, sending her catapulting into the sky.

Winner gets to catch her when she inevitably plummets.
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No. 776236 ID: bfb318
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776236

>Who are the commenters now?
It appears to be Haydi and Glitcher Junior.

You really hope Glitcher knew what he was asking for when he helped you by rigging their own booth to blow up.

For now, you set up Sweatermouse for her introduction, and you have Murdermouse drive it to the ring while she stands on the hood.

>"How thoughtful of you to return my truck to me!" Radmin yells out.
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No. 776238 ID: bfb318
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776238

You grab Sweatermouse, leap off the truck, and vault Sweatermouse near the commentator desk.

As you land, the truck explodes. You realize you haven't rehearsed your landing at all and you're pretty sure this isn't the ideal pose, but you didn't belly flop on the stage and the crowd is excited and that's about all you could ask for.

"You're doing a really bad job of making Sweatermice look good!" Sweatermouse yells.
"I'm not making us look good, I'm making us look unscre - "

You spend a moment rechoosing your words.

"Like we're not shorties to be screwed around with!"
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No. 776239 ID: bfb318
File 148592697997.png - (28.52KB , 800x800 , 56.png )
776239

>"Funny, you don't seem to be good at that either." says Radmin. "Because blowing up my truck is the best way to get me to screw with them."
>"Damn, all dressed up like a cartoonish wrestling villain and everything. You're even more adorable in person!" Glamison says.

You mentally thank glitcher very much for his interference, because if he wasn't so accodating, Murdermouse would be blushing so much right now.
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No. 776247 ID: 3abd97

>You're even more adorable in person!
Seduction successful?

"Oh, you really thing so? I... hey, wait, I'm here to teach a lesson, not take compliments! (Even if I am totally awesome and deserve all of them)."

>"Like we're not shorties to be screwed around with!"
...technically, isn't the whole point of this because a certain shorty didn't get screwed and is trying to fix that? (Oh thank goodness for blushproofing).

>"Because blowing up my truck is the best way to get me to screw with them."
"Really. You don't say. How many other people blew up your truck before you started messing with them? Why my innocent little sis up there must have wrecked a ton to have earned everything you put her through!"
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No. 776248 ID: 398fe1

>>776239
Oh you think I'm adorable? Great cuz if I win you have to take me out on a date!
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No. 776253 ID: 7ea7cc

Try something, Radmin!

And Glamison, we can go somewhere nice after this- it'll help you get the taste of mat out of your mouth!
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No. 776256 ID: 094652

"I got one question for you, just one: HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO KILL YOU?! And don't pick something you've already done, I want to make this murder MEMORABLE!!!"
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No. 776273 ID: 91ee5f

>>776239
Sweatermouse says, "W-wait, guys! Don't compliment her, she's mean! She doesn't deserve it!"

Murdermouse says, "Just like they don't deserve you! In fact, I caught Radmin cheating on you with Sweatermouse from cycle 1 in his dressing room!"

Sweatermouse starts crying and says, "W-w-what?! Radmin, h-how could y-you?!"

(Spreading lies to make Radmin look bad counts as being evil, right?)
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No. 776276 ID: a8bc5c

Now would be a good time to drop an anvil on glamison's head. Or drop activate one of those pits.

*anything* to reinforce being a dastardly villain to empower murdermouse before she starts putting Radmin in his place.
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No. 776279 ID: a363ac

>>776276
>>776273
Both of these are dastardly and murdermousey
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No. 776376 ID: bfb318
File 148598648712.png - (25.39KB , 800x955 , 57.png )
776376

rolled 7 = 7

"Don't compliment her she's mean she doesn't deserve compliments!"
"They don't deserve you, Sweatermouse! Did you know Radmin was cheating on you with another sweatermouse?!"
"Whaaaaat?!"
>"Heheh." Radmin chuckles, shrugging with his hands. "That would imply I went chasing after that sweatermouse, but she's the one who clung onto me. And can you blame her? I'm irresistable. So actually, if you think about it, it was her cheating me."
".... that's not even close to how it works! That doesn't even make sense! At least Glamison is starting off nice. Maybe I'll take her on a date and let her wash her tongue of the taste of mat!... with food! And ice cream! But Radmin, or should I say, Fiver, how many people did you mess with before they ruined your truck?! My innocent little sister up there must have wrecked a ton to earn everything you put her through!"
>"Haha, have you seen her ref? She's wrecked the outcome of just about every match!"
"What?! Oh my gosh do you feel that way really?! You think I'm a bad ref?!"
>"Dear little mouse, of course not. You've constantly intervened in my favor unfairly. You're the best ref, and thanks to your wingman, Birdfeed, there's no quips back about you being the only ref!"
"OH GOSH."
"That's enough! Let's get started! How do you want to get murdered, Radmin?! Make sure it's memorable, I don't want anyone forgetting, especially you! Even after you're dead!"

Murdermouse pressed a button to set off a bomb under the ring.

Rolling for effectiveness, with 1 being least effective.
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No. 776379 ID: bfb318
File 148598714611.png - (19.12KB , 800x800 , 58.png )
776379

Result: Better Than Expected

The bomb is set off, and the area underneath Glamison rumbles before a perfectly rectangular segment drops underneath her. The naga's OP body was too large to get fully dropped, but it looks like it will delay her long enough to give Murdermouse a chance to do something without getting immediately double teamed.

"I want to get murdered by a formidable opponent!" says Radmin even as his teammate drops. "It doesn't look like I'm getting killed today, though."
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No. 776380 ID: 398fe1

>>776379
Prove him wrong. Running clothesline! To his midsection, sure.
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No. 776383 ID: a363ac

Use your superior strength and relatively same agility to pick Radmin up and throw him into the hole at Glamisons face.
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No. 776384 ID: 094652

The grappler is stunned! Skirt around the field and sucker-punch Radmin in the dick!
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No. 776389 ID: 3abd97

>it looks like it will delay her long enough to give Murdermouse a chance to do something without getting immediately double teamed
When you do get double teamed that's when you call foul and force the ref to intervene on your behalf. One of them should be tagged out!

Forcing Sweaterref to enforce the rules against her own interest is evil at its best.

>"I want to get murdered by a formidable opponent!" says Radmin even as his teammate drops
Start things off with a Mouse Bounce headbutt. If possible, hit him again when he bounces off the ropes.
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No. 776390 ID: 65ec8d

Ok, we can't bust out the high level techniques right away, that's not a good show. But we should start building up expectation.

Say "Doesn't look like you're getting killed? Then maybe you need to check your eyes! Three Blinds: Level One!"

Then you run at him, making it look like you're going for an arm or elbow strike or shoulder tackle, focusing his attention on your upper body. At the last minute, though, turn it into a power slide, coincidentally flipping your skirt up, and sweep his legs!
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No. 776469 ID: bfb318
File 148601046813.png - (50.26KB , 800x955 , 59.png )
776469

"Well technically no one ever truly dies here so Radmin is telling the truth." you hear Glitcher Junior say now that you're paying attention to the commentary.
"Uh no Radmin has died before, I mean I even met him in hell!" says Haydi.


Using your signature move right off the bat is kind of a wrestling no-no, you're pretty sure! Or maybe it's fine? You decide to play it safe and just attack normally.

By running up to Radmin, picking him up, and throwing him into the pit. He sinks in and Glamison loses what grip she had, tumbling down under the ring with him. Radmin almost seemed to let it happen, and you're not sure if that's because you were much stronger than he thought you'd be, or if he just isn't taking this seriously at all.

Which he shouldn't be taking it too seriously, but you think he should take it a little seriously!

"You can practically hear him asking for Murdermouse to just get down there and finish the job!" says Haydi.
"H... he's not though." Junior says.
"Well don't give it away geez."
"Anyway, the crowd reaction is is loud but mixed! They don't know what they expect!
"Or want!"

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No. 776470 ID: 398fe1

>>776469
...dangit radmin! You can't grandstand from down there! Get back up here and be a big showoff!
Wait no let's just send a camera down there and jump in for a PIT FIGHT. Murdermouse can wait for a minute at first, tapping her foot impatiently, then jump down with a huge ELBOW DROP.
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No. 776471 ID: a363ac

Instead of attacking take a jab at his ego and flatly say "wow you suck" because come on he just sucked a fat one there. Also watch out for cheap under the ring attacks from Glamisons tail or Radmins cheapness
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No. 776472 ID: 1cc24b

Say you're doing some kind of drop in move, but throw a bomb in there instead.
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No. 776473 ID: 3abd97

>>776469
"Hey, take me seriously, you jerk! This is my whole problem, there's no respect!"

"Well if you don't take me seriously, I'll make you!"

Toss a bombchu in the hole after him.

Sweatermouse: start swinging back and forth like a pendulum, trying to get free, and try to do ref stuff.
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No. 776474 ID: 595d54

"Wow. You suck." Then call out a move but just chuck a bomb in after them.
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No. 776478 ID: 99f752

Nah, you gotta call out a drop-in move, toss in a bomb, and then actually drop in with the move once the explosion's gone off. Evil bomb drops are good, but if you just camp up top the audience'll think you're being lame.
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No. 776515 ID: 65ec8d

You have lots of signature moves, you just need to save some for later! You don't need to avoid using any at all, or you'll never get to use most of them.

Express your disappointment/amusement. "Wow, Radmin. Hey, in case I didn't make it clear, that date with Sweatermouse you've been talking about? That's the prize for winning! I guess it shows how much you care if you're not even trying? Well, I came into this expecting to prove you weren't worth Sweatermouse's attention, I guess I was more right than I thought! Oh ho ho ho!"

Use your whisker twister laugh to charge up while they're climbing out of the hole/preparing to attack you from underneath it.
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No. 776920 ID: 8111b6

Maybe you should play to the crowd. Give them a chance at actually getting out of the hole. It's for entertainment, right? Ham it up. Running around the ring, triumphantly shaking hands and such. ...and then try for a cheap shot like a true heel when they start climbing out. Just tossing a bomb in there isn't FUN for the audience yet. Maybe either a running kick to the face or stepping on their head or hand to get over the hole.

Radmin, at least understands the importance of working the crowd.
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No. 776929 ID: 91ee5f

Wait! Use the The Whisker Twister! A condescending laugh is appropriate to use now, right?
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No. 776944 ID: e6e9af

>>776469

Wondering if it's kosher to prefix any witty retort with "Oh my Glitcher," seeing as he IS technically one of this world's gods, and all that. Kinda.

... Nah, twist them whiskers and have a good laugh at their having already fallen for it -- and Radmin of all wrestlers, the so-called king of cheap tricks, too!
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No. 777212 ID: 15a025

Taunt them saying you were expecting more of a challenge than this
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No. 780369 ID: bfb318
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780369

"Haha, you really suck, Radmin! Or were you not taking me seriously? Or maybe you're just that bad and not worth Sweatermouse's attention after all? That must be it! Ohohohoho!"

You stand as high as a short mouse can, using Whisker Twister to squeeze out audience bonuses. which seems to go to SIG. You have Sweatermouse start swinging around on the stick to try to get free and maybe do ref stuff.
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No. 780370 ID: bfb318
File 148737429337.png - (24.79KB , 800x800 , 61.png )
780370

You have Murdermouse then throw a bomb. You can't use your best signature moves right off the bat, but this still counts as starting small.

Also, you're all too aware of how they may try to attack you from underneath the ring, so you keep a watch out to find a sneak attack.
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No. 780371 ID: bfb318
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780371

You found one.
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No. 780372 ID: bfb318
File 148737431004.png - (59.49KB , 800x800 , 63.png )
780372

What you also see is Glamison springing out of the hole you made. The explosion goes off, then, and the shockwave picks up Glamison and hurtles her at you.
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No. 780373 ID: bfb318
File 148737432188.png - (28.30KB , 800x955 , 64.png )
780373

By the time you decide to react, part of Glamison's tail collides into you.
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No. 780376 ID: 398fe1

>>780373
Wriggle out of it! Can't let her grapple you! See if you can give her a kick in the face to boot. Heh, boot.
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No. 780377 ID: 3abd97

You've (barely) got more STR than the snake, and she's only barely got you. You can escape the grapple by flipping over her tail, or slipping under it.

Bonus points for leaving her a bomb to grapple instead.

Worst case: if you get stuck in the middle of her coils, with your own bomb? Invoke Ref Rules and steal invincibility for a minute to you can tank the blast while she can't.
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No. 780385 ID: a363ac

>>780373
Be on the look out for a cheap attack from Radmin !
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No. 780410 ID: 211d83

Your stats are still way over hers. Wiggle up onto her tail and the Butt drop her at the end of the arc of this attack.
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No. 780661 ID: 094652

Tie her tail in a knot!
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No. 781050 ID: 15a025

>>780661
Agreed. Let's get "knotty" and tie her like a shoe lace.
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No. 781259 ID: bfb318
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781259

You've got a single moment to do anything notable, and you do your best to make it count by sliding down her tail near the end, looping it up, over, and through a hole. It's not much of a knot right now, but as Glamison hits the rope, a couple of ideas pop into your head.

You could slip under her while she bounces back, and use the change in direction to hold onto her tail and tie that knot off tighter than she can easily undo it. If you really pull out your A game, you could even drop a bomb in the middle of that knot, but that would be difficult. You suspect the knot will severely penalize her agility. Alternatively, the incoming speed difference would make for a powerful straight forward attack.

There's no sign of Radmin, yet.
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No. 781262 ID: b412df

Just go with the knot, I think it'd be better to get a certain debuff on Glamison rather than a uncertain bomb attack or a solid hit in.

Plus, tying her tail in a knot is evil. We need to show the crowd we can be diverse in our evilness instead of just bombs.
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No. 781263 ID: 3abd97

A bomb in the knot would probably untie it, which would sort of undo the advantage for just hurting her.

What if after the knot you did a spin in place and hammer-threw her? Spin the rest might work for that.
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No. 781264 ID: 094652

Now for the kicker - tie a bomb into the knot, then throw it at Glamison's face!
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No. 781275 ID: ed3883

plant your feet and pull so the knot travels up her form and she can't use it as a cub as easily.
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No. 781324 ID: 211d83

Watch out for your mask slipping there Murder.

Go for broke I say.

This whole affair has been set up for you to have some wrestling fun and show your newly amorous romantic intentions to your dates.

So put your A game on and do your best to get that tail tied around a bomb. Radmin will be butting his head in somewhere but can deal with him once he appears.
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No. 781327 ID: bfb318
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781327

>Watch out for your mask slipping there Murder.
Your mask isn't even attached to your face physically speaking. It just rests on the bridge of your nose and stays there through the magic of Equip Item, only coming off if something would properly lift or knock it off.

You go for the plain knot.

You think she's very polite for panicking and thrashing around, essentially tossing you away from any more of her coils, hair or limbs. That might be Murdermouse speaking, though.

You've seen every wrestling match, with all kinds of stuff that shouldn't work but does. It's due to this learning by watching that not just do you manage to tie a snake into a knot, but you lift up, and the loosened knot slides up her tail, finally snagging just a bit above her middle, ensuring she won't be able to use it like a giant club without awkwardly flailing.

"Oh thank goodness." says Haydi. "I've always wanted to know how an Alison could move if you tied up her tail, but I could never ask!"
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No. 781328 ID: 398fe1

>>781327
Holy shit how did Radmin get out? Don't cheat, Murdermouse shouldn't be able to see him. Get caught by the ladder and take some hits.
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No. 781329 ID: 595d54

>>781327
"Coincidentally" swing Glamison into Radmin's ladder and/or Radmin himself.
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No. 781331 ID: a363ac

>>781327
Spin The Rest use your position in the ring to spin the ring into Radmin.
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No. 781332 ID: 3abd97

>>781329
>>781331
Yup, exactly this. Break out the signature move and swing them right into each other. Technically MM doesn't have to "know" Radmin is there to pull that off, even if you can only see behind your back thanks to Sweatermouse.

...is she free yet? At the very least she should be saying something.
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No. 781333 ID: a363ac

>>781327
Also make a bad pun about Knots. Such as "Well you certainly are a Knotty girl." "I never knew you could be knotted so easily." "Time to get Knotty."
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No. 781543 ID: b412df

Is there a way we can block that ladder and make it look accidental? The only way we're able to see that attack coming is because Sweatermouse is also Murdermouse. Otherwise just take the hit, try and minimise damage while doing so.
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No. 781626 ID: bfb318
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781626

>Is she free yet?
It turns out you're way, way better at making knots than getting out of them.

"I didn't know nagas got knotty so easily!"

Glamison shoots you a look of confused disapproval, but you're already moving on to other things. Murdermouse uses Spin The Rest, which is performed by doing a ballerina twirl followed by stopping. You have a feeling that multiple rolls may increase the duration of the spin,

You spin around fast, and perhaps Murdermouse would have noticed Radmin in time, but instead, she opts to tank the hit in order to finish her signature move.
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No. 781628 ID: bfb318
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781628

The key moment of your foot stopping the twirl still occurs at precisely the same time as one of the ladder holes being slammed down around you, knocking Glamison out of your grasp.
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No. 781632 ID: bfb318
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781632

The ring starts rotating. The acceleration is fast, but it gives Radmin a moment to react to the incoming ring wall about to crash into him. He throws his end of the ladder to the side, for a reason you're sure you'll find out in a moment.

Murdermouse acts as the the center point of the ring's rotation, and since she was near a corner, the ring's rotation will cover a lot of ground. Glamison ends up rolling across the ground, out of the ring.

>"What the hell is this overpowered move?!" she yells.

>"We might want to move." says Glitcher junior.
"Nah." Haydi replies.
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No. 781633 ID: bfb318
File 148765137927.png - (21.84KB , 800x800 , 70.png )
781633

Radmin manages to catch himself ringside instead of being run over.

The ring is also going to run into Sweatermouse's pole, so if she's lucky, she'll land hard enough to undo her ropes or however that works.

>"This can't be legal, Sweatermouse!" he says.
"Neither is using a ladder!"
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No. 781635 ID: bfb318
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781635

Meanwhile, you finally realize why Radmin tossed his end of the ladder to the side. He put the last stair gap over the pole.

From Sweatermouse's angle, it doesn't look like this should be at all a challenge for Murdermouse to get out of, but it is giving her problems all the same. You're not even sure how Radmin got it down so far in the first place, and assume his CHP must have given the power.
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No. 781637 ID: 398fe1

>>781635
Loudly curse your generous curves. Then FLEX to break the ladder outright!
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No. 781639 ID: 595d54

Spin harder and use the ladder as a weapon to whack your enemies.
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No. 781645 ID: 91ee5f

>>781635
Watch out! Radmin's SIG stat is pretty high! There's a good chance he might try to hit you with a Signature Move while you're stuck! Specifically, his RKO move or, if Sweatermouse's pole fell over but she's still tied up, he'll try to use Spin the Ref by swinging around Sweatermouse while she's still stuck to the pole!
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No. 781647 ID: a363ac

>>781635
Now might be a good time to let them get a reversal and let them go on the offensive for the show.
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No. 781657 ID: a8bc5c

You are two stars short of a maxed out strength bar. Just break the damn ladder and then roll away.

Then get ready to counterattack Radmin.
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No. 781658 ID: 3abd97

>>781635
Your str is good, and str is for escaping grapples. Just pull yourself forward and roll out.
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No. 781661 ID: 65ec8d

You can push it up over you, it'll just take some squeezing. Maybe it's time for the first of the Three Blinds?
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No. 781713 ID: bfb318
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781713

You try to flex out of it, but you just squish against it more. Efforts to snap it in half fail, as while your strength is high, this doesn't appear to be a prop ladder, or even a cheap ladder, it's just plain metal.

Your hips are too wide to push yourself forward still, so you start pushing it up and over you, as you certainly have the strength to push through that tight fit. It is then that you realize just how astoundingly awkward this is going to be.

Then you push your hesitation to the side, because this isn't Sweatermouse, this is Murdermouse. It might not look graceful, and in light of recent events you may not even think it's decent, but Murdermouse has a mission to beat up Radmin, or at least that's what you want to do. Plus, you're pretty sure Radmin is about to use spin the ref.

You take a deep breath, then continue. Then exhale, because breathing doesn't help.
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No. 781714 ID: bfb318
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781714

You initiate Level One of Three Blinds, though you don't have to escalate it to the second level.

Your current actions are distracting for a variety of reasons, and you know it. Both Glamison and Radmin are included, though Glamison is still out of the ring.

>"Where'd Glamison go anyway?"
"Who knows?"
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No. 781716 ID: bfb318
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781716

"Dang these curves!" Murdermouse yells, squirming around in ways the Succubus taught her. Sweatermouse's blood rushes to her face on Murder's behalf.

While Murdermouse worms through the ladder, Sweatermouse's pole tips over the ring. Radmin rolls into the ring on cue, then stands up by the base of the pole. His SIG goes up, and it's obvious what he's about to do what you feared.

He does not swing the ref. He turns back to the crowd and starts inquisitively gesturing to the base of the pool, although he stares at the crowd through Murdermouse, as Three Blinds is sufficiently distracting. The spinning ring messes up his theatrics some, and he has to keep a hand on the ropes to keep his balance, but all the same, the crowd starts getting noisy. Radmin is acting like he doesn't know what he's supposed to do.

The crowd clearly wants to see the ref spun.

"He's building up signature power! He might turn this around if Murdermouse lets him get away with beating up his sister!" Haydi yells.
>"Hey, Murdermouse! I think the crowd wants to see me swing the Ref! I even think the ref wants to see it too." says Radmin.

You kind of do but you've also got rekindled motivation towards beating the heck out of him.

Murdermouse is almost out of the ladder thanks to time and stat increases. She's either got to do something like continue Three Blinds, or let Radmin start some reversal in momentum.
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No. 781719 ID: 91ee5f

>>781716
As soon as you get out of that ladder, try spinning the ring in the opposite direction. You'll either make it come to a sudden stop or start spinning in the other direction.

The sudden change in the ring's momentum will make Sweatermouse slide away from Radmin and he'll have to waste time to chase after her to do his move. Or, if he's already holding Sweatermouse or is in the middle of swinging her, the sudden change in the ring's momentum will mess him up and make him miss.

Also, Glamison's AGI stat has started to go up, so she's either untied herself or she's found another way to move around without slithering.
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No. 781757 ID: 211d83

Start the second phase of the three blinds by "accidentally" catching your top on the ladder as you get it over your head.

Time this so right as you get the ladder off you get smacked by a swung Sweatermouse. Go down in a lewd pile of curvy mouse flesh so it distracts everyone.
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No. 781772 ID: 7397ab

Seeing as Radmin basically phased the ladder though your arms you might have to wiggle a lot to get out.

Try turning sideways to see if it gives you more room.

>>781757

Something like this should work. If you time your wiggling suggestive escape from the ladder right (with lots of slipped clothing and erotic wiggling to activate the second blind move) You should be able to get it over your head right as Radmin smacks Sweatermouse into you.

The goal is to end up in a half clothed pile of curvy moaning mouse bits that gets both Radmin and Glam thinking lewd thoughts.
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No. 781805 ID: bfb318
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781805

>Radmin phased that ladder through your arms
You did have your hands up to hold up the snake tail at the time of ladder-impact. That's not to say, though, that you wouldn't be surprised if Radmin had cheap shots that broke physics.

Murdermouse pretend-struggles for a moment as Radmin finally maxes out his SIG. He grabs the pole and lifts up Sweatermouse like a baseball bat, and stares at Murdermouse, timing his hit.

The ladder is tossed up, and Murdermouse's top is "accidentally" brought along with it. The jacket is also tossed up, by real accident.

"AAAAAAA" says Sweatermouse, as Radmin starts swinging.
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No. 781806 ID: bfb318
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781806

If you were capable of feeling outright pain, you would be feeling a lot of it right now. While pinned between rope and sweater, the commentators keep talking.

"Ohh that's got to hurt!"
>"I don't think Murdermouse will quickly recover from that one."

The ring starts bumping as it rolls over something, and it begins slowing down to a gradual stop.
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No. 781807 ID: bfb318
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781807

You bounce off the ropes, and both of your bodies tumble together back onto the mat on the opposite side of the ring. Your jacket lands nearby. Murdermouse is partially stunned, meaning that while she can move, she'll be clumsy about it.
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No. 781816 ID: 65ec8d

Looks like Glamison's about to slam down with that tail knot, or maybe use it to hook herself over and launch in onto.

You know, I wonder. I know this is supposed to be a heel vs. heel match, but it's about making the crowd care, right? You're playing to a character archetype, and that archetype can be more complex than just hero or villain so long as it's cohesive. Murdermouse has been talking about looking after Sweatermouse. If Murdermouse dodges, it might put Sweatermouse in line for the hit - she's invulnerable, but it still looks bad. If Murdermouse "instinctively" tanks the hit to stop it hitting Sweatermouse, which is in-character to the saucy big sisterly persona, perhaps the crowd would like it?
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No. 781829 ID: 9411c6

>>781816
Good idea. Get up and put yourself between Glamison and SweaterMouse.
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No. 781835 ID: a8bc5c

You're going to have to tank the next attack from glamison and see about getting sweatermouse out dodge.

You know, staying in-character about MM's intentions.

Might as well ham it up about radmin having to resort to using the ref to attack you in a match that revolves around treating her and the rest of the sweatermice better.
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No. 781843 ID: 398fe1

>>781807
Don't dodge, then. Block. Maybe also grab.
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No. 781848 ID: 91ee5f

>>781805
>>781806
Aw, I just realized we could've used Mouse Bounce to have Sweatermouse bounce off of Murdermouse and not do any damage to Murdermouse!

>>781816
>>781829
While it's true that Murdermouse is playing the protective "big sister", remember, we have an ESM (Evil/Saucy Meter) powered by villainy and seduction. If we protect Sweatermouse, that'll be considered a "good action" and drain away our stat stars, since the stars are equal to the ESM! Once the audience sees that Murdermouse isn't "evil" our ESM is going to drain away and we'll start to lose!

So unless Murdermouse pulls out all the stops and uses only seduction to keep the ESM filling up, we ain't gonna win!

I mean, winning wasn't the plan, but we might as well do it! It'd also be pretty funny to see the look on Radmin's face when his "never lost a match" win streak is finally broken! XD
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No. 781856 ID: 3abd97

Sweatermouse should start protesting and trying to get from under MM before Glam can hammer them both. "Hey, I'm the ref! And the hostage! Leave me out of this! You're all getting infractions at this rate! Wait what rules am I supposed to be enforcing for this match."

Murdermouse can use Ref Rules to steal invincibility for a moment and block the hit "saving" Sweater, and using the opportunity to be smug at her opponents. "Now you're attacking her? I thought you were trying to save little old Sweater."

A taunt also gives you a chance to escalate up another level of three blinds, or to do another ohohohohoh laugh.

Maybe then shove Sweater to go grab your top?

>While it's true that Murdermouse is playing the protective "big sister", remember, we have an ESM (Evil/Saucy Meter) powered by villainy and seduction. If we protect Sweatermouse, that'll be considered a "good action" and drain away our stat stars, since the stars are equal to the ESM! Once the audience sees that Murdermouse isn't "evil" our ESM is going to drain away and we'll start to lose!
I dunno, so long as we make saving Sweatermouse saucy, or we do it in a condescending manner, I think it's still from the villain playbook. We're butting in to provide a defense she never asked for. There's also the fine villain tradition of showing up the "heroes" just because you can.

I mean, MM's sort of an anti-villain, here. She's doing dastardly deeds to teach some jerks a lesson. (And her own respect).
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No. 781863 ID: bfb318
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781863

Murdermouse staggers upright to block the incoming shot, rather than overtly defend sweatermouse and risk losing a bunch of ESM.

"Leave me outta this, I'm the ref! And the hostage! You're all getting infractions and cards at this rate! Is this even a real match?!"
"Learn to help yourself already instead of hiding behind your referee state!" Murdermouse says.
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No. 781865 ID: bfb318
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781865

"OOF." Sweatermouse says as the knot hits Murdermouse hard enough to knock her back down, but it was still soft enough to not re-stun her. Murdermouse also manages to get a good grip on the tail. "Can someone please untie me already?!"

"I thought you were trying to save sweater? You're just using her to attack me!" Murdermouse yells.
>"We're undefeated for a reason, now just stay down, cutey!" says Glamison. "You're cool, but you're still a sweatermouse at heart, and sweatermice aren't fighters, they're friends."
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No. 781870 ID: 398fe1

>>781865
That's what you think! MURDER SUPLEX!

Pull the tail, hard enough to whip her back into the ring and slam down behind you.
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No. 781872 ID: 3abd97

That Glamison taunt should probably at least get an indigent "Hey!" out of Sweater.

>sweatermice aren't fighters
>>sweatermice aren't fighters
>>>sweatermice aren't fighters
This is exactly the attitude Murdermouse is here to correct, and everything she thinks these two are doing wrong. It's time to see red and flip out, I think. Suplex the snake.

>aren't fighters, they're friends.
"Friends deserve respect! Sweatermouses Power! Murder Suplex!!"

Bonus points if you can smash her into Radmin.

"I'll teach you to respect Sweatermice! I'm gonna show we can be more than doormat doormice!"
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No. 781873 ID: 211d83

That comment from Glam could be the perfect chance to get Sweatermouse on your team. Then you could even the number advantage.

Would just have to have your Sweatermouse avatar take offense to that comment. Have her be "You don't think I could be a wrestler?" then give Glam a sad look. Then decide to join Murder's team to show them you can kick there ass.

Or just have Sweater make horribly unfair rulings and "accidentally" help murder a bunch.
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No. 781882 ID: 91ee5f

>>781865
>We're undefeated for a reason
"What do you mean 'we'? Last I checked, the only undefeated ones here are me, since this is my first match, and Radmin. You ain't undefeated and, if I remember correctly, Radmin was the one that defeated you!"

>sweatermice aren't fighters, they're friends.
"Are they really your friends? I've seen the way you treat her and how you take advantage of her! If that's how you treat your 'friends', I'd hate to see how you treat your enemies!"
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No. 781889 ID: 87547f

Are you sure you did not mean Sweatermice are food you big ol snake?

This is why you don't deserve Sweatermouse. I bet she could fight just fine if she wanted to.

Suplex Glam then use Sweatermouse as a bludgeon for whatever comes next. Radmin is not the only one who can use you as a weapon. Plus you can be mean to yourself for more evil points.
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No. 781893 ID: bfb318
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781893

"Hey! You don't think I could be a wrestler?!" Sweatermouse asks.
>"I just can't really imagine it, sorry!"
"WHAT!"
>"Hey, you tried to fight Radmin that one time, and it went pretty, uh... bad."
"And who do you mean 'we', you were defeated!"
>"As in me and Radmin as a team! Personally yeah once, but Radmin and I are undefeated!"

>sweatermice aren't fighters
>>sweatermice aren't fighters
>>>sweatermice aren't fighters

"Friends deserve respect! If this is how you treat your friends, I'd hate to see how you treat your enemies!"
>"If you keep trying to be a fighter against us, we'll show you just that!"
"We aren't doormat doormice! Murder Suplex!"

The tail isn't rigid, so she can't just suplex the snake like she would a long stick. Instead, she pushes the tail up, then yanks it back down to whip Glamison up and over the ropes.
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No. 781894 ID: bfb318
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781894

You try to slam Glamison down on Radmin, but Radmin is nowhere to be seen, so you just slam her on the mat.

This may be a good time to untie Sweatermouse, as she can enter the fight either as a referee or a fighter. Possibly both.
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No. 781895 ID: a363ac

>>781894
untie Sweatermouse and have her do a fake hit on glamison to make her think that mouse is weaker than Murdermouse for a surprise later.
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No. 781896 ID: 211d83

Letting her loose would help but would it be evil?

Maybe steal her sweater to cover up your chest (leaving her cruelly exposed) and leave her on the pole as a weapon. That should pop up your evil meter a bit.
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No. 781899 ID: 094652

Keep up the pressure by chomping on Glamison's tail while you untie your main body, then have her help you twirl Glamison around by the knot!
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No. 781902 ID: 91ee5f

>>781896
This.
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No. 781904 ID: 3abd97

Maybe you could crack Glam's tail like a whip for a second smack before she recovers. Or you could just roll a bomb down her tail like it was a marble track. It'll probably blow up in her face or her torso before she's recovered enough from that slam to redirect it or use it for propulsion.

>This may be a good time to untie Sweatermouse, as she can enter the fight either as a referee or a fighter. Possibly both.
"You gonna make yourself useful at all, sis?"

Sweatermouse: hop up to cover Murdermourse's chest once the tail is out of the way, blushing and/or stuttering furiously. "Stop flashing my- your- at everyone! I mean they're yours but they look exactly like mine, uh, notthatIwaslooking!
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No. 781905 ID: 91ee5f

>>781902
Also, Radmin's CHP stat is half a star away from being maxed out! He's most likely going to try to hit you with a cheap attack when he sees an opening! So watch out!
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No. 781906 ID: d4eb75

Pick a side sweatermouse! Take a stand!

Hammer throw Alison into the ref stand and blow it to smitheroons.
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No. 781911 ID: 91ee5f

>>781906
You mean the thing the Glitch kids are sitting at? It's actually the commenters' booth.
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No. 781914 ID: d4eb75

>>781911
Yeah, that's it. Slam her about a bit like a proper heel should, then get her out of there so you can show some love to Radmin.
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No. 781920 ID: a8bc5c

Sweater/murdermouse. You know how radmin fights. He gets a hit in, and then runs away. His CHP is almost fully maxed out, so he's totally going to RKO you and it is REALLY going to fucking hurt.

You best bet is to throw glamison at something (the ropes, the turnbuckle, the commentator's booth, etc) and then sidestep.
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No. 781923 ID: bfb318
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781923

You keep on the pressure for another hit by whipping Glamison up and down a few more times in a combo like manner, before making one big finishing hit by throwing her down on the commentator's table. You were afraid you were about to hit Glitcher Junior but he and Glamison clip through each other.

"Wow, after all that trouble to keep our table from getting ran over by the ring, Murdermouse just trashes our table anyway! And after all that brutality! That's messed up!"
>"It was an important table and made us look less awkward than just sitting over here with chairs." says Junior.
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No. 781924 ID: bfb318
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781924

Murdermouse bites down onto Glamison's tail to keep a hold on it, while she unties Sweatermouse.

"Choose a side, Sweatermouse! Make a stand!"
>"I dunno about all Sweatermice but she has a point about me! I'm not a strong fighter!"

Technically it's not a lie, as you doubt that Sweatermouse has much star power.

"Then I'll at least use you for a good reason."

Murdermouse unties the sweater sleeves and yanks it off, freeing Sweatermouse's hands. They reach up to try to pull Murder's top down for some modesty, but Murdermouse uses that opportunity to take her sweater off.

"NOOO at least give me your top! What do you even need my sweater for?!"

You did not prepare a response to yourself in advance. There is difficulty speaking, too, because you're well aware that Radmin's CHP stat is near maxed out, and you keep trying to look left and right while you continue to dance around the ground so he can't grab your feet.
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No. 781926 ID: 211d83

I am going to use your invincible sweater to tie up Radmin for good once he shows up. (don't say this out loud)

Thrash Glam all over a bit to lower stats and keep her stunned. Keep the sweater ready in one hand for when you find Radmin. Once you beat them both you can drag them off to go on a victory date with you and Sweatermouse.

Oh and make sure to look up as well as left and right and down. You can probably survive a max cheap hit but it would hurt.
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No. 781929 ID: 094652

Fondle boobies then jump on them and use the sweater as a whip against Radmin, then stuff bombs in the sweater arm holes while he's distracted and throw them into his face.

"Your tits are extra soft, I'm gonna steal a giant cartoon syringe and inject caramel fudge cream straight into your nips. Don't move~"
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No. 781937 ID: 3abd97

Steal Sweater, shove Sweatermouse towards your discarded jacket.

Using the invinci-sweater as a grappling weapon versus Radmin as he appears seems like a good idea. You can swing it around even if he comes from an unexpected angle (and you can counter with your own cheap move, if you hide a bomb inside for him when he yanks the sweater away).

...our own cheap stat is pretty high. We could take a preemptive cheap shot at Glam as a trap to draw Radmin out. Or ham it up with a villainous laugh, leaving a weak spot / blind spot to attack from. But make sure you point your back at one of your hidden traps or something similar.

Counter-cheap time! (Your trap card triggers my counter trap!).
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No. 781939 ID: 91ee5f

>>781923
Well, Glitcher set up an explosive in the commentator's desk to explode at Murdermouse's command. Glamison is in the perfect spot and her AGI stat is so low, there's no way for her to dodge fast enough!

So I vote for exploding the commentator's desk!

Murdermouse can tell the Glitch kids, "Yeah, your desk was important to me, too! So I could do this!" then explode the desk and Glamison!
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No. 781940 ID: 398fe1

If Radmin is under the ring, you should set off another bomb under there.
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No. 781943 ID: d4eb75

Where are your other traps? He's not disarming them, is he?

Time to blow up the desk.
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No. 781946 ID: 91ee5f

>>781943
>Where are your other traps?
They're right here: >>776134 !

We've already used one of the bombs in the ring. And if Radmin is disarming the traps, unless he learned to fly or jump good, he couldn't be in the structure up above the ring and the Glitch kids would've noticed Radmin trying to get under their desk. So he's probably under the ring.

Oh! I just remembered something! Before the match started, a few sweatermice sent messages to Murdermouse saying that if she gives the word, they'll run in and help if they can. If we want to, we can ask those sweatermice to come in and find Radmin!
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No. 781947 ID: 87547f

Perfect.

Call the other Sweatermice to cause a distraction. Blow up the commentators desk to further damage Glam. Heck even take out one or two of the roof supports or ring bombs to make a mess.

Send Sweater under the ring to see if she can spot Radmin. Plus she can hide her exposed cleavage.

All the while you smack Glam around while waiting with one eye looking for Radmin so you can cancel out his cheap shot and wrap him up in your invincible sweater.

Once you do thrash him around until you win and then drag Glam and him off to date time.
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No. 781951 ID: a8bc5c

Blow up the commentators desk after a cheesy one liner.

Then shout "ladies!" to get the other sweatermice to appear and tie up Radmin and his CHP meter while you pin Glamison.
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No. 781952 ID: 398fe1

You can tell Sweater "You'll see!"
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No. 781956 ID: bfb318
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781956

"You'll see!"

You'll be using the sweater to tie up Radmin. You have Sweatermouse untied after all, and Murdermouse gives her a push to the discarded jacket.

"Your table was important to me, too!" Murdermouse yells to the commentators, then blows it up while Glamison is still catching her breath.

Glamison has been knocked out. If she doesn't wake up soon, or she gets pinned for three seconds, she'll be out of the match.

"Ohoho! Sweatermouse, go search under the ring for Radmin! Ladies!" Murdermouse yells to the sweatermice in the audience. Look around, where's Radmin hiding?!"

"The rafter's! He's up in the rafters!"

You can't see him when you look up, but you do have bombs there. On the other hand, Glamison will most likely wake up left to her own devices, and you may want to have Sweatermouse do a countdown, possibly pinning her yourself. You doubt Radmin can just jump down without doing more harm to him than you.
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No. 781958 ID: 398fe1

>>781956
Pin Glamison by just standing on her with one foot, making a smug gesture to the crowd. Ham it up a bit.
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No. 781960 ID: 3abd97

>>781958
Yes.

Sweater should do the countdown, as she's still technically the ref. Glares all around, at MM and Glam. One for kidnapping, the other for badmouthing and tail-dropping.
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No. 781961 ID: a8bc5c

Uh, yeah, no. He's totally going to drop something on you. Look up while you move towards glamison, then pin her while being hammy.
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No. 781962 ID: 211d83

>>781958

Do this while watching for Radmin in the rafters.

Have Sweatermouse keep a close eye just in case its a trick and he is under the ring somehow.

Or just blow the rafters while pinning Glam so you can pick him out of the rubble and tie him up.
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No. 781965 ID: bfb318
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781965

"Sweatermouse, come ref for me!"
"Okay okay I didn't see him under the ring, just a lot of boxes and stuff!"

You go over to Glamison, and put your foot just below her clavicle, and wave to the crowd.

"I dunno if that counts as a pin?"
"If it doesn't, then she can get up!"
"Uh, okay... one!"

One of the audience sweatermouse calls out.

>"He's doing something! On a console!"

Murdermouse does keep an eye above her. It doesn't look liks there's anything that can be dropped on her.
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No. 781969 ID: 91ee5f

>>781965
He's going to try and drop something on Sweatermouse to stop the pin count!

Either have Sweatermouse count faster or have Murdermouse set off the bombs in the rafters! Or both!
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No. 781971 ID: 91ee5f

>>781969
Or he's trying to turn off the lights so that he can drop on Murdermouse! Or he's turning off the lights so that Sweatermouse can't see if Glamison is still pinned and the pin count doesn't count if the ref can't see the pin!
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No. 781973 ID: a8bc5c

Well. Hm. The rafter trap is suppose to drop stuff, not take out anyone up there...

I guess just start tapping on your imaginary wrist watch in a condescending manner while hamming it up.

Be prepared to sacrifice your pin to avoid whatever it is Radmin is about to activate.
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No. 781975 ID: 398fe1

If turns out the lights, making it impossible to verify the count, then Murdermouse should just tell Sweatermouse to keep counting, and you'll set off a bomb at the final count to make light so she can see Glamison is still knocked out.
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No. 781976 ID: 211d83

Just because nothing is directly above you does not mean he can not hit you with something. Or do something to the ring you are on.

Maybe that console has your bombs wired through it so he can mess them up or set them off. Are you standing on a bomb area? He could drop some lighting or something on a chain or line so it swings to hit you. He could control the truck you stole somehow. He could hit the lights and then surprise you.

Gesture to Sweater (so it looks like you used a evil ability) and have her quick count so it only lasts a second and Glam is out. Then be ready to use Glam's body as a shield in case he has a trick ready. Blow your bombs in the rafters to try and knock Radmin down at the same time.

Also have the Sweatermice look for operators who are doing anything suspicious (in the truck maybe?).
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No. 781977 ID: 3abd97

>"He's doing something! On a console!"
Maybe he's gonna remote crash his car into the ring. Would it have respawned already?

Or maybe he's gonna set off your own traps.

>if he turns out the lights
Pull a bomb and have Sweater keep counting by the light of the fuse.
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No. 781978 ID: a8bc5c

>>781976
radmin's truck was exploded at the start of the match. It's out of the equation.

Unless the console makes a new one drop on MM's head and crushes her AND Glamison.
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No. 781979 ID: bfb318
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781979

Murdermouse taps on her wrist to get Sweatermouse to hurry up the count.

At the same time, the rafter bombs are set off.

"Two!" Sweatermouse calls.

No bombs explode.

You could have Sweatermouse instantly call out three at the risk of Radmin giving you sass over it, or just keep your foot firmly on Glamison. There's lots of stuff Radmin can do, but it would be touhg to stop your pin. You can make a new bomb for lighting if he knocks out the lights, otherwise, anything that swings into you is going to take more than a second. Even more than a wrestling second. Anything dropped on you would just pin you on her too.

The remaining sweatermice can't see anything out of the norm either. Even so, you're tempted to just leap out of the way and abandon the pin, but you can't imagine what he can do that would be worth sacrificing Glamison for. Plus, it would be embarrasing to leap off when Radmin didn't have any tricks up his sleeve, but you see nothing.
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No. 781981 ID: 398fe1

>>781979
Call his bluff. Continue the pin. In fact, loudly proclaim you're calling his bluff. He can't stop you!
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No. 781983 ID: bfb318
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781983

"I'm calling your bluff, Radmin! You can't stop me!"

"Three!" Sweatermouse yells loudly, and the crowd makes some noise. Precisely then, Murdermouse feels something yank her top off.

She reflexively covers her chest, while Sweatermouse sees it getting lifted by nothing.

>"Ahaha!" yells Radmin. "Next time you want to boobytrap the rafters, don't leave them in such plain sight! You may have stats, but I was made for this city, from the stadium, to the streets, to the pizza arcades! I have prepared by mastering them all, from the ring, to the trucks, to the hard mode of claw crane - where the claw turns invisible!"
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No. 781985 ID: bfb318
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781985

You see Radmin stand up where you can see him. He tosses away the control console as an invisible crane drops the top to him. He waves it to the audience.

>"And when I saw that, of course I yanked out the mechanics and brought them here! Of course, I thought I'd have my operators use it, but it was so much more satisfying to do it myself anyways."

This might explain why there were pizza boxes and various out of place items under the wrestling ring that you didn't pay mind to. Also why no one has ever liked fighing Radmin.
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No. 781986 ID: a363ac

>>781984
Care not for his weak and feeble mind games preform the "Are you not entertained?" pose and call him out like the fool he is.
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No. 781987 ID: 3abd97

>Radmin just stole your top
...seems to me this is the perfect time to counter with the Three Blinds. There's no way in hell he expects a Sweatermouse to flaunt it.
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No. 781989 ID: 398fe1

>>781984
Oh no. OH NO! He's gonna wear it! He's stealing your powers!

Welp. At least you can put sweatermouse's sweater on now. Or go topless, for distracting Radmin. You're gonna need the edge... probably go topless and stop covering yourself.
also why is there an invisible crane?
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No. 781994 ID: a8bc5c

Direct the sweatermice to the rafters.

Then milk that almost full ESM meter for all it's worth and make a bomb.

A highly explosive, lightweight bomb. Throw it not at Radmin, but at his precious console.

If that doesn't work you are gonna have to run while three blinds is in full effect.
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No. 781995 ID: d4eb75

Direct one of the sweatermice to appropriate the console while you banter.
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No. 781996 ID: 91ee5f

>>781985
Murdermouse, stop covering yourself! Remember, you don't care if you're topless!

I wonder if we can get him to come down by insulting him?

Try saying, "Is that all? How lame. Just as lame as your wrestling. In your past matches, the only reason you won was because you had a partner as a distraction. But now that you're alone, there's no way you can win! In fact, I bet you not even know how to wrestle without a partner to save your sorry ass!"

That's all i've got. Does anyone else have any better insults? Try to attack Radmin's ego to see if we can actually make him lose his cool if that's even possible, since we've never seen him lose his cool even once!
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No. 781997 ID: 91ee5f

>>781994
>Throw it not at Radmin, but at his precious console.
He already threw the console away, so that's not going to work.

How about throwing a bomb at the platform he's standing on instead?
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No. 782000 ID: a8bc5c

>>781996
I don't think we've got a leg to stand on when it comes to insulting Radmin into fury. He is simply the best there is and any attempt is probably going to be a suckers game.

>>781997
Right, forgot about that. Blow up the platform instead and then either rip off his precious luchadore mask or pin him or get your top back, depending entirely on how stunned he is.
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No. 782012 ID: bfb318
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782012

"Why is there an invisible crane?!"
>"Have you not played the claw arcade games, Sweatermouse? The one where you direct a crane inside of a box full of goodies, put it over a goodie you'd like, and press the button to grab what you want? Well, in hard mode, the crane is invisible! The goodies are better! And I removed it and installed it here, knowing some day I would need to fight someone with more stars!"
"Is that it Radmin? That's lame, just as lame as your wrestling tactics. You've only won because you've had a partner, but alone? You're a fool with no chance of winning, and no knowledge of how to wrestle without a partner to save your sorry butt! You just wanted to see my chest, huh?"

Murdermouse creates two bombs, and throws them up at the rafters to knock him down. He runs to the side and manages to pick up some things and throw it the bombs. You admit you're impressed, actually, as they go careening down into the audience. He probably practiced carnival games a bunch to do that kind of thing. You start sending up the sweatermice to chase Radmin. You then have Murdermouse put her arms out and her chest forward to activate Three Blinds level one, as you're too far away to make use of levels 2 or 3. You think you're going to die from mortification, but then you'd never want to come back to life after dying like that.
>"Hmm? You started off a sentence so well by saying 'I've only won.' Because yes, I've only won. That's because I'm after victory, mouse, but I'm glad to see a sweatermouse that knows how to appreciate their own short form!" he says, staring at places you'd find impolite, except that you're trying to get him to stare there. Even with that, he's not losing his cool or stuttering or anything at all. "You must think you're in a good position after beating Glamison, but did you honestly think I would let her be knocked out of the match without ensuring my own? After all, we're a team, and my victory is our victory. Even if it's because of me."
"You're also right about one thing - from down here, it does look like I'm winning!"
>"You don't need to specify 'down there', little mouse! It's a little redundant, don't you think!"
"Ohhhh I could punch you right in the snout! You... you think you're so good?!"
>"Aren't I? Do you realize who you've challenged to a fight? Do you think I've even taken this seriously?"
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No. 782013 ID: bfb318
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782013

>"I am the administrator that has mastered contests against all odds! You? You are just my final test. Did you even know that? I've defeated all of the other wrestlers. I only need to put a special opponent face down to secure my spot in an administrative throne room and return to my old glory. You are that stepping stone, and one at a comfortable stepping height to boot. And to top it all off, you're one that's fresh out of a dead cycle, with no practice, no training, no experience. Did you even ask Sweatermouse about my abilities?"

It dawns on you. He's going to wear it. He slices a claw through your top.

>"Your discarded jacket was hardly more than an accessory, so I wouldn't gain much, so I had Glamison distract you so I could steal a more prized possession. The claw was all so that I could nab someone's clothing without getting close."
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No. 782014 ID: bfb318
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782014

He puts it on as the sweatermice start to get on his rafter level. Stats are checked.

BAPM - Being A Prick Meter

>"But when it's all said and done, you've got my undivided attention now, rodent. Are you ready, mini-mouse, to experience just how silly you look when fighting without an overwhelming stat advantage?
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No. 782016 ID: 398fe1

>>782014
C'mon Sweatermouse, you trained for this. You have some moves. Maybe. Also, a bunch of allies. Toss bombs up to them and have them blow up the rafters manually.

Then sit on Glamison and glare at that huge jerk.
Time to shatter his dreams. He knows there's no contest to administrate anymore, right? He's gunning for a position of glory that no longer exists.
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No. 782020 ID: 3abd97

He just "bound" himself with the second of the three Blinds, which means when he takes a flying jump down from the rafters, (or when you take a flying, bomb boosted jump up) he's set you up perfectly to chest slam him with level 3.

You should be able throw your whole signature and cheap meter into that, because it's totally cheap when you use someone else's master plan to power up your move instead.

And of course you have to pull Ref-Rules out to outright cheat at some point.

...oh. The absolute finisher. Sweatermouse has to break down. Sweatermouse has to get actually upset with Radmin if / when he's winning, not the fake enjoying-being-teased outrage, so he's forced to break character and his own Being A Prick Meter to be not terrible to her. Flat out emotional manipulation that breaks the rules you agreed to after he first apologized to you. It's the cheapest move you could pull, using your dual personas to undermine Radmin at a critical moment.

It's okay, he'll think you're fantastic for pulling off something so evil, later.

Up to that point, SW is on censorship bird duties.
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No. 782021 ID: 3abd97

>Up to that point, SW is on censorship bird duties.
Or you equip the stolen sweater (not necessarily the appropriate way) or you reclaim your jacket and pull a Glamison where that somehow covers things up.
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No. 782023 ID: 398fe1

Let's not cheat (except in ways we're already allowed to cheat) or have Sweatermouse lie to him. Honestly, if he wins, he deserves the victory. I do support Sweatermouse joining the fight as a fighter, though. Just to sneak up behind him and blind him or something at a crucial moment.

I really want to win and say "You thought your first defeat was to Murdermouse" (and then have both Sweatermouse and Murdermouse talk at the same time) "but it was ME! SWEATERMOUSE!" then have the two bodies high five and Murdermouse vanishes in an explosion.
I guess it'd be okay if it was "You thought your final opponent was Murdermouse" or some other concession speech, though. Just... not as cool.
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No. 782028 ID: a8bc5c

"Depends. You got any more dirty tricks up your sleeve, FIVER!? Because I haven't used up half of my techniques and that's not a good sign for you! We may be on near equal footing but your precious RKO isn't going to save you from me kicking your ass!"
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No. 782029 ID: 3abd97

It occurs to me that MM actually has a perfect counter to this strategy. Ref Rules lets her temporarily steal ref powers from Sweatermouse. At the end of the first wrestling thread, Sweater shows us snapping her fingers to get her top back was within her ref powers. MM could depower Radmin whenever she wants, with one signature move.

...while it would be kind of funny to anticlimax all that speechifying with a snap of our fingers, it's probably more fun to toy with him for a while.

>>782023
Personally, I wanted to save the reveal for the end, when MM has Radmin on the ropes. Right when it looks like they're gonna lose the match, and the bet for Sweater, *surprise* it's her who's winning after all, which means the date's still on, cause that's her prize.
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No. 782032 ID: 398fe1

>>782029
>SM could get her top back
Those were standard safe zone powers. I think that would be cheating in this fight.
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No. 782034 ID: 91ee5f

>>782028
Wow, now that I think about it, we did kinda turn Radmin into a one trick pony, since his RKO is the move he's almost always relied on for every match!

>>782029
Hey, you're right! He doesn't even know that he's screwed no matter what! I can't wait to see the look on his face when we do that! And as an added bonus, since he's playing by Luchador rules, he'll be disqualified since he's not wearing his mask under Murdermouse's top! XD

I guess, we can do a Whisker Twister and tell him, "Even with your new stats, you still don't stand a chance of beating me!"
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No. 782035 ID: 595d54

>>782032
>cheating
Oh nooooooooooo

Sounds like a good idea.
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No. 782038 ID: 91ee5f

>>782034
Also add, "You've already lost the match and you don't even know it yet!"
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No. 782058 ID: b412df

Cheating may be a assured victory, but it isn't a satisfying one. Given that we're trying to woo Glamison and Radmin as well as have some fun.

I'd say don't cheat, because imo it doesn't matter if we win or lose, as long as it's a satisfying win or loss for everyone. The crowd wants a show, and we want to give Radmin and Glamison a show too.
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No. 782070 ID: 91ee5f

>>782058
But the crowd loves it when Radmin cheats! Why isn't Murdermouse allowed to cheat also? It's in character for her, since she's evil.
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No. 782071 ID: 65ec8d

Well he has the stats, but he still doesn't know all your moves, right? You can still edge this out. No need to (obviously) cheat or use serious emotional manipulation.

Give him a laugh and a speech. Some flirty innuendo might enhance the effect of the Blinds. "So, all that effort just to get your hands on my chestpiece! But that doesn't mean you know what to do with what you've grabbed, Radmin! Will you be able to use your massive stat bar effectively, or will you lose your hold and show everyone what a mess of things you can make? Obviously, I can't contain myself any longer! You're going to feel the full weight of what a Sweatermouse has to show!"

That last line might inspire him to drop something on you, so watch for that. Anyway, you can still win! Use referee invulnerability, that'll make you immune to the effects of strikes. You could still lose by being pinned, but any attempt to grapple with you could open him up the Third Blind - which specifies it captures until rescued or released, so with Glamison out, it's very powerful! The only way he'd be able to get out is if he gets you to release him, so it'd be a battle of wills. You have a bunch of other moves and traps still to use, so get to it!
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No. 782073 ID: 211d83

"What as opposed to how silly you look fighting normally? Do you even know what to do with the stats you stole? Or are you going to just run around up there all night and play with invisible toys?"

(We could zap back our top but should save that trick for a proper moment. Same with any over the top emotional attacks. Having fun wrestling Radmin and Glam is the goal not winning at any cost.)

"Is sitting on the admin throne more important to you than poor Sweatermouse? This is why I am here to stop you from stealing her heart and then abandoning her!"
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No. 782087 ID: 531554

So you are doing this for some silly throne?

Where are poor Glam and Sweater going to be in this fantasyland of yours?

(Give him a proper Murdermouse speech before we continue.)
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No. 782098 ID: 440bb8

"All your planning has done is get you exactly where I want you Radfink!"

"I wanted you to steal my clothes because then you would gain my powers and also the horrible weakness that goes along with them! "

"To keep those stars you have to be a evil jerk! If you want to beat me then you will have to show Sweatermouse and everyone else just what sort of horrible person you really are deep down! That is if you can even beat me. I sort of like the idea of stealing your silly throne."

Then stand there and do your whisker twirl laugh while Sweatermouse looks worried at Radmin off to the side.

(Ideally we try to goad him into doing something over the top and have Sweatermouse disapprove horribly. Then see if he stays on his jerk path or changes things because of Sweatermouse turning away from him. Either way should be a fun final match. Win or lose just aim to have a fun time.)

That being said we still want to try and win the fight.
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No. 782684 ID: bfb318
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782684

>Emotional manipulation by having Sweatermouse break down to get Radmin to break character, losing prick-levels and Murdermouse gaining evil levels
That's too evil! You don't want to win that badly.

If Radmin is that jerkish on his own, you may take advantage of it, but you don't want to manipulate him into doing something terrible.

If you really want to win, you'll employ Ref-Rules to, presumably, be able to snap your clothes back from Radmin, leaving him maskless. You're not sure if this will even work though, as even if Murdermouse is tagged as a ref, she'd still be tagged as a wrestler too, and you're not sure which supersedes the other.

"As opposed to how silly you look fighting? You're doing this for an old throne with a system that has no followers, hmm? Where does that leave Glam and Sweater in all this?"

You throw a couple bombs up for some sweatermice to catch to blow up the rafters.

>"The same place as always - as you say, administration doesn't mean anything more, and it's no longer even about the job - it's about the title."
"I'm sure you'll do just fine showing what an awful person you are, but hey, that's what gives you a chance to win! A small one. I sort of like the idea of taking your silly throne." Murdermouse says, twirling her whiskers.
>"Show I'm a horrible person? Mouse, for you, I'll be the worst."
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No. 782685 ID: bfb318
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782685

Radmin leaps down on his own accord just before the bombs go off, looking like he's going to land about center stage. Murdermouse has a moment to intercept him with an attempted Level 3 Three Blinds or other tactic, if she doesn't want to let his theatrics go unanswered.
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No. 782689 ID: e22b1d

Did... we just blow out that rafter? Is it going to fall down on the stage? Well, better make sure it lands on Radmin and not you.

>Murdermouse has a moment to intercept him with an attempted Level 3 Three Blinds or other tactic, if she doesn't want to let his theatrics go unanswered.
You already did steps one and two you're primed for step 3.
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No. 782700 ID: 90f3c0

You've got Three Blinds ready, you might as well go for it.
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No. 782720 ID: 277439

NO! Don't let him get the RKO!
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No. 782722 ID: 96c896

Leave a bomb for him to land on.
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No. 782738 ID: a363ac

>>782685
Blind his prickeness
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No. 782743 ID: a8bc5c

Pirouette away from Radmin. NOW. You can fight him after he lands and, hopefully, takes damage from physics.
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No. 782757 ID: bfb318
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782757

Instead of risking an RKO - even a non-running one - you leave a bomb for his landing position and leap away, grabbing the discarded jacket back from Sweatermouse, who then runs to get the sweater you had left behind.

Radmin lands square on the bomb, which explodes right as he lands. You can no longer see him.
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No. 782768 ID: a363ac

>>782757
Check above and below first
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No. 782783 ID: e22b1d

Star twirling. When he tries something (or if he stays hidden) you stop and make the room spin to throw him off, or force him out of hiding.
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No. 782784 ID: a8bc5c

The ring doesn't look like it has a new hole in it. He's above you.
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No. 782795 ID: bfb318
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782795

Seeing the lack of a pit, you check above before anywhere else or risking a counterattack. You see him up once again, and although he still faces you with a smug expression, he seems more off balance coming down this time, allowing for a better chance of Mouse Bounce or Level Three Blind.
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No. 782796 ID: e22b1d

>>782795
Three Binds. Flying (exposed) chest tackle him, mid air.
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No. 782797 ID: 65ec8d

... You could try bomb juggling him.

No, wait. Pull out another bomb like you're going to try doing that, but this time it's actually a smoke bomb. Having braced himself for another explosion, he'll land less gracefully than he would and you should have an opportunity for an attack. I'd combo Mouse Bounce to knock him down and then max power Third Blind by locking his head between your legs.
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No. 782825 ID: 9522b5

...he's on fire and he's STILL SMILING.

I don't trust this one bit, we out. Let physics do the work while you run for the ropes and out of the way.

Bounce off of them and use the momentum to tuck into a ball and Mouse Bounce your way across the ring and over his prone form.
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No. 782827 ID: dd5b4d

Ah yes the famous 'Man on Fire Burning Chariot Kick'. Any chance you can get that man a pail of water?
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No. 782861 ID: 211d83

He is now powered by jerkiness. So if you three blinds him by having him land in your boobs he will counter by motor boating you or groping you.

Should be the same if you butt bounce him. (not entirely a bad thing but if we let him win he would be sad so we have to do our best to win.)

Right now his stats are still slightly above yours so you will lose a direct exchange until we lower his stats a bit.

Here is a thought.

1. Have Sweatermouse teleport to the opposite corner of the ring.(so that when you spin the ring she will swap places with where you stand now.

2. Wait until the last second and spin the ring as he comes down so he lands on the invincible Sweatermouse who may or may not have her sweater back on by now so he may get entangled in her jiggly bits/sweater being put on. (or gets hit by her as she spins into place)

3. Meanwhile you dash to the ropes so you can Mouse Millenium off of the ropes and into the now entangled Radmin and Sweatermouse (cause he will do something jerk like to Sweater upon landing to maintain his jerk meter)



There are other options but our stats will fall if we keep using the bombs to much as the audience will get bored. Need to spice things up with new moves and flashy fighting.(Plus we want to get up close and personal with Radmin a bit anyway)

Now Radmin could counter by jerkily groping the stuck getting dressed Sweatermouse (making Sweater so embarrassed she freezes) letting him grab Sweatermouse and use her as a shield/spin the ref. So if mid bounce you are about to run into a Sweatermouse shield/spin you need to spin the ring to get her out of the way and rebounce off of the next set of ropes. Then hit him from behind. That or mouse bounce off Sweater to gain velocity and bounce back off the ropes even harder. (Which would result in a odd game of bouncy mouse pinball until Radmin missed you and you knock him down. (also you would have lots of vaguely lewd half clothed collisions with yourself)
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No. 782972 ID: bfb318
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782972

Although you don't have much time to charge it for long, you perform Spin the Rest as you get equidistant between Radmin's landing spot and Sweatermouse, so that Sweatermouse will be underneath Radmin.

Your timing is spot on, but Radmin cleanly tackles Sweatermouse, somersaults forward with her, and then gets back up as he throws Sweater out of the ring.
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No. 782973 ID: bfb318
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782973

While he tossed Sweater, you rocketed yourself off the ropes to Mouse Bounce into Radmin. You land squarely into his side, flinging him into the nearby ropes.
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No. 782974 ID: a363ac

>>782973
MOUSE MILLENIUM
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No. 782975 ID: 3abd97

>>782972
Sweater really needs to protest this treatment to some extent. "You're the worst! Both of you!"

...maybe Sweater should go check on Glam. That's a thing the ref can do, right?

>>782973
Land, let him bound off the ropes, and then chest slam his face for the level 3 three blinds.
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No. 782976 ID: 211d83

He looks like he is enjoying himself. But his cheap meter actually rose so the crowd expects him to go that direction.

Bouncing him into the ropes might cause him to use that momentum to bounce back.

Drop a bomb where you stand and keep moving. Get your Sweatermice in the audience to close in around the ring if you can. Can toss them bombs so they can throw them at Radmin from all directions.

Keep up the bouncing if you can. But this match will turn to proper wrestling once he can get a hold of you. So have stuff in place to help you break free if that goes badly for you.
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No. 782979 ID: 65ec8d

Watch out for him to grab at something with that hand, there.

I'm guessing the Mouse Bounce launches you off in the other direction after it hits, so use that momentum to spring away. He'll probably try bounce off the ropes for something himself. Go to the opposite ropes and spring yourself off them, to meet him again in the middle. He might try some sort of bluff or trip or something, but it won't matter much, because what you'll try do is leap up and spread your legs, for level one Blind leading into a level three. If he ducks or something, you'll miss and can land to try again, but if he does anything else you should be able to trap his face for at least a moment, with his arms underneath you. That'll give you the chance to make a grab for the back of the mask.
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No. 783015 ID: bfb318
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783015

"You guys are the worst! The both of you!" Sweatermouse yells.
>"Then hang out with me."

Glamison sneaks up, somehow, behind Sweatermouse and coils around her.

The audience sweatermice start coming back down from the rafters and from the audience itself to help if need be.
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No. 783016 ID: bfb318
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783016

Murdermouse bounces backwards, where she tries to leave a bomb where Radmin will land. It'd difficult to aim, though, as the ring still spins around Murdermouse's central location, which is changing as she mouse bounces backward. The bomb ends up missing as Radmin tumbles forward, but Murdermouse manages to aim herself off the opposing ropes to set off Mouse Millenium, rubbing Radmin's back onto the ropes hard enough that they'll leave three lines. Despite the maneuver, though, Radmin manages to put his hands around Murdermouse and give her a bear hug.

>"Right into my hands!" he says, boasting.

Your hands are completely free to try and undo his mask, though, so as soon as you go for it, he'll leave himself wide open for Level 3 Blind to restrain him reliably, but you've been indecisive as to how to approach it:

A) Chest to face
B) Legs to face
C) Something else entirely
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No. 783017 ID: a363ac

>>783016
C Face to Face. Kissu~
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No. 783021 ID: 3abd97

>>783015
Oh, uh, heh-heh, hi Glam.

Are you rescued now, or have you just been captured by someone different?

>>783016
I'm tempted to say chest to face, since you're in the position for it already, and it's pretty easy to flash open that barely-covers-you top and boob-smash him.

But your thighs are considerably more dangerous weapons than your chest, and he's already seen the first, which might decrease the effectiveness.
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No. 783022 ID: 65ec8d

>>783017

No, kissing Radmin has to be done with Sweatermouse's body! It'd more romantic that way.

I want to say B, but if I'm envisioning this scenario correctly, when you go for his mask his arms will lift behind his head to stop you. That'll trap your arms in against the sides of his head, so legs won't really be possible. Chest will, though, and it'll leave your legs free to counter him pushing forward to slam you on the mat.

So, A.
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No. 783024 ID: 277439

Ears to face. The important bit is you get the mask.
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No. 783027 ID: 96c896

Thighs to face, but fall backwards with your legs locked around his head and use the momentum to slam him into the mat.

At this point I kindof want Murdermouse to lose but only after putting up enough of a fight that Glamison and Radmin are forced to admit a Sweatermouse can be a passable fighter.
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No. 783040 ID: 688206

>>783027
That will NEVER happen if radmin wins his stupid 'throne'

Glamison's opinion can probably be swayed but radmin? No way.

Anyways. Let's go with C: DIRTY DOUBLE. He's not going to see it coming and we have free use of our arms to flash him.
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No. 783041 ID: 15a025

A. It'll help keep your legs free in case you need them.
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No. 783043 ID: 72a406

Sweatermouse kisses Glamison, Murdermouse BITES Radmin's cheeks until she can rip off his face.
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No. 783047 ID: 3abd97

>>783043
...Sweater and Glam kissing at the right time might work as an effective Radmin distraction, actually.
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No. 783071 ID: 804a8c

>>783017
>>783047
Simultaneous makeouts would be extremely distracting.
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No. 783241 ID: bfb318
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783241

In cycles that have passed...

Cycle 606


bap
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No. 783242 ID: bfb318
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783242

Cycle 994

clap

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No. 783243 ID: bfb318
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783243

Cycle 2845

bop

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No. 783244 ID: bfb318
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783244

Meanwhile

Cycle 3119

bapap

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No. 783245 ID: bfb318
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783245

"BAWGAWD SHE DONE IT."
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No. 783246 ID: bfb318
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783246

"Fruitless." says a muffled Radmin. He raises his hands, presumably to wrench himself free to no avail, and Murdermouse prepares to defend himself.

He jabs his fingers under Murder's ribs, and while she winces expecting proper strikes, jolts are sent through her, and spasms and thrashes follow.

"Wha - nononoNONO hahahahaha"

"Tickling?! Seriously?!" Sweatermouse calls out.
>"Well it is effective, I'd know. Now if you'll excuse me, Sweatermouse, I've got to make sure none of the other sweatermice go get in the way." says Glamison.
"Wait no don't do that."
>"What're you gonna do to stop me."
"Uuuuhhhhhhh..."
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No. 783253 ID: bfb318
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783253

Sweatermouse kisses Glamison.

>"I mean that's great but I can't be bribed with kisses, Sweatermouse!" Glamison says, and even while coiling around Sweater, she begins slithering into the ring. "I'm gonna stop those Sweatermice from getting in the way."

>"But I'm totally going to take you out for a night now." she adds.
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No. 783254 ID: 398fe1

>>783253
Sweatermouse needs to use whatever ref powers she has to keep Glamison from interfering with the match. She got pinned and counted out! No cheating! Granted, I don't think there's anything preventing her from interfering with the sweatermice outside the ring, though.

For one, she can teleport out of those coils easily. For two, uhhhhhh what ref powers does she have, again? Can she give Glamison a yellow card or something?

Murdermouse needs to try to grab at Radmin's mask since his hands are indeed occupied. Or start smashing him in the head with elbow strikes.
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No. 783256 ID: 3abd97

>>783253
Hey, you got tagged out, stay out of the ring!

Tickle her? Slap her with a yellow card? Test if Ref powers actually do anything.

>>783246
Untie his mask? Or suplex him.
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No. 783260 ID: 211d83

Murder: Untie that bow on the back of his mask to de power him. All you have to do is grab one end with each hand and pull.

Sweater: If Glam gets to cheat you get to fight dirty. You could teleport away and take her with you. But how about really distracting her instead. Teleport out of her snakey coils and give her a really distracting kiss. Not on the cheek so she cant do anything else but pay attention to you.
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No. 783262 ID: 65ec8d

Lock Murdermouse's legs around his torso, and channel the tickling reaction into squirming and wriggling around his head. That should loosen his mask, and then all you need to do is manage to grab it and pull it up off him. Fight the tickles! You can do it!!

Tell Glamison that she can try stop the Sweatermice interfering but she has to do it from outside the ring! She got counted out fair and square, so it's against the rules for her to get back in there! She's large enough that she wouldn't be able to help interfering with Murdermouse and Radmin. That would go beyond normal cheating, so you'd have to disqualify them both and Murdermouse would win by default!

I mean I guess she could get some third party or parties to counter the Sweatermice for her? Maybe call in a bunch of alternate Alisons to capture all the alternate Sweatermice. It might not be best for our current goal to give her that idea but when's the next time you'd get the opportunity to create a massive multi-cycle mousenaga hug party? If your alternates are mostly like you they'll probably be grateful.
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No. 783272 ID: 094652

Sweatermouse DOUBLE BAPAP
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No. 783274 ID: 277439

Grab his mask by the knot and kick off of his chest. Wink at the audience as you fly through the air.

Glamison said 'now', hope she meant it because you aren't gonna let her get away
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No. 783281 ID: bfb318
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783281

"I'm gonna give you a yellow card Glamison!"
>"You wouldn't."
"I am!"

Ref power: Yellow card

Glamison's star power has been reduced by 1 for each stat.

>".... okay?"

In a desperate plot to distract Glamison, she kisses her dead on. Glamison's attention is certainly given, but she's able to kiss back while still slithering up the ring.
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No. 783282 ID: bfb318
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783282

"Well I'm gonna disqualify you both if you don't get out of the ring this instant!" says Sweatermouse.
>"Yeah what about all those Sweatermouse coming through the doors?!"
"That's not against the rules like bringing in multiple Alison's isn't against the rules!"
>"Why do you think no Sweatermice have shown up yet?!"

Sweatermouse starts tickling Glamison. It's effective.
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No. 783283 ID: bfb318
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783283

It's so effective that Glamison instantly responds by flinging Sweatermouse with enough power to land in the audience.
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No. 783285 ID: bfb318
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783285

Murdermouse, meanwhile, starts reflexively trying to smack him and elbow strike him, but she can't strike him hard enough to lower his stats as fast as he's lowering hers. She starts untying Radmin's mask to get the tickling to stop, but she can barely fight against it well enough to undo the mask at all. Her attempts to kick off his chest to get away are met with more tickles and bear hugs, and all she can use them for is to cling onto him, which is much of the problem.

Through that, he manages to yank and stretch Murder's jacket around the back of his head, distracting any defensive maneuvers against it by motorboating her chest. He then clutches the jacket into a bundled pseudo-knot with a single hand. With his face hidden in her chest, he continues tickling her. She can't not be ticklish, and as unfair as it is, her stats are dwindling quickly in an unflattering, unmurdermouselike manner. Her sauciness meter is rising, but it's offset by her laughing uncontrollably being a decidedly not-evil performance as you screams at him to stop through laughs and squirms.

>"Still just a Sweatermouse." Radmin whispers, with a much more affectionate tone than you would have expected.
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No. 783287 ID: 211d83

Tickle him back you fool! You can't bring smacks to a tickle fight!

Get those Sweatermice from the audience in there to help you tickle him and Glam if need be.

Tickles everywhere!
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No. 783288 ID: a363ac

>>783285
Its time to stop playing around and just grab the knot and pull pull out some fur while you are at it and leave him with a baldspot on the back of his head pull off your top to get to that knot.
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No. 783291 ID: 398fe1

>>783285
This calls for emergency measures! Teleport out of his grasp, right in front of him, so that you can grab him for a suplex! I checked earlier, teleportation IS part of MM's powerset. She's just not supposed to abuse it.

At the same time Sweatermouse can teleport-grab Glamison for a suplex. Simultaneous suplexes! Even an unpowered Sweatermouse should be able to manage that against a debuffed Glamison. Hopefully. If not she can give her another yellow card. Or a red card? Not sure what other cards do.
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No. 783292 ID: 3abd97

>"Still just a Sweatermouse." Radmin whispers, with a much more affectionate tone than you would have expected.
Enraged Murdermouse time. Headbutt him. Right in the sensitive snout.

Or shove a bomb in his face and use Ref Rules to steal invincibility to tank the blast.

>>783283
Deputize the audience members around you and sick them on Glamison. Drag that cheater out of the ring!
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No. 783293 ID: 277439

Grab the mask by the knot and kick away, dammit!
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No. 783295 ID: 91ee5f

Wait, 2 of the posts have bombs planted in them and you have Radmin directly next to one of the posts! But there's no way to tell if it's 1 of the 2 posts with a bomb or 1 of the 2 posts that don't have a bomb!

I guess you just need to detonate both of them and hope that the one Radmin's next to is one of the bomb posts!

Don't worry though! Since Radmin is between you and the post, he'll take most of the damage while you use him as a shield! Just hold on tight when you go flying, so that he doesn't get away! He'll be stunned long enough to leave his mask unprotected for you to take it off!
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No. 783297 ID: 91ee5f

>>783295
Also, bite down on his ears!
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No. 783301 ID: 65ec8d

Ah, wait - I should have realized earlier. Your tail! You can use it to tickle him back without having to give up your hands.

But... I have another idea, too. He's using your clothes to protect himself. If they're being a liability to you... then you must destroy them! Even if it means blasting them to shreds!

"Just!? JUST!?! That's it! Three Blinds, Final Technique!!" [Pull out a bomb held at point blank] "FLASH BOMB!!"
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No. 783308 ID: bfb318
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783308

You tickle his ribs, then his ears, then anywhere you can find, and all you find is that he's not ticklish, which allows you to deduce that the world is an incredibly unfair place.

Instead, you just grab tufts of fur and yank, pulling them out of his skin. It sounds incredibly painful. So much so, that the sound of it is probably giving you more pain than what he's actually feeling. You still bite down on his ears, and Radmin reacts by biting down on Murdermouse's choker.

Sweatermouse gives Glamison a red card, and she teleports away. It gives you the idea to have Murder teleport away to escape Radmin as well, but Glitcher gave the power to you not to abuse, and you think that meant to just use teleport to get around the city unnaturally quickly. Using it to escape a grapple is in bad taste, you think.

You feel Murdermouse's body starting to get numb, and your stats are getting pathetic to the maximized stats of Radmin, so you pull out another desperation move on the fly. You try to explode the two posts that have caches of bombs inside, but they're not close enough to break Radmin's grip.

"J-just?! Fine, you - you asked for it! You need my clothes to live, so - flash bomb!" she says, summoning out another bomb. By this point, your bombs have weakened due to overuse, but this one is different with an icon of clothing inside of a no sign.
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No. 783309 ID: bfb318
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783309

It explodes, sending a burst of smoke outwards and the shredded remnants of clothing visibly out beyond it. Radmin, still clutching onto the mouse, rolls into one of the pits of the ring before the smoke clears, tickling Murdermouse the whole way down.
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No. 783310 ID: bfb318
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783310

>"Not bad!" he whisper-yells as both land on the ground. He pushes off of Murdermouse slightly, but still keeps his hands on ticklish points.

Murder tries to catch her breath, stunned and unable to move. Around her are mostly boxes, as reported, though skid marks are under them where they apparently spun with the ring itself, somehow. "I think that's enough of this match. Want to ditch it, grab Sweatermouse, and go have some pizza? If so, I'll show you the secret tunnel out of the ring so neither of us have to walk back out there in the nude."

"Wh... what?! You just want to stop here?"
>"Disappearing, making the audience wonder just what happened down here and where we went? You'd better bet I'd do that. The alternative is that I tickle you into submission, then wear you like a scarf as I emerge victorious, right?"
"Then why don't you?"
>"Cause you're just a sweatermouse."

He keeps going before you manage to break the stun with anger alone.

>"And this cycle's iteration of it has made me love Sweatermice."
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No. 783311 ID: 277439

His mask is gone, that's a victory, right?
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No. 783312 ID: 595d54

>>783310
Nah just beat him up until he surrenders. Make him regret saying you weren't a fighter. He should be way depowered from losing his "mask", and it's evil enough that you should reduce your penalties. You're Murdermouse for a reason, act like it.
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No. 783316 ID: a363ac

>>783310
take him up on his offer just long enough to get your stats back up then scream "Sweater mice will not be taken advantage of!" Then RKO him into the ground and start the count.
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No. 783318 ID: 3abd97

>>783310
"I'm looking at your maskless face, Luchador. Did you forget the mask rules? You already lost!"

*sly* "You're just asking me to help you save face in front of everyone else. So what are you gonna bribe me with for that?"

>"And this cycle's iteration of it has made me love Sweatermice."
Start laughing. Successful seduction. You got him and Glam. And blush, even though MM isn't supposed to be able to.

"No you don't. You love Sweatermouse, you dummy. It's me!"

Then playfully hit him.

"So yes, you're taking me out for the date I just won and successfully and brilliantly seduced you into, and I don't wanna hear you gushing about my sisters anymore, either."
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No. 783319 ID: 65ec8d

Well, if we're out of sight then let's just get real (mostly) for a moment and bring Radmin into our plot. So...

"Geez Radmin I appreciate that but saying "just" still implies we're inferior or something! Anyway, ok listen a moment, I'm not happy just walking away. I guess we're breaking character down here, so then I'll say I'd actually even prefer to lose if that's the alternative! If we just disappear that'll mean I can't do my big twist reveal!! Also it'll really be a let-down to the audience. Also also I set up this whole thing to help this cycle's Sweatermouse get over her awkwardness and just get with you and Glamison without fretting about it too much! And to have fun and put on a show too, of course, but mainly that. If you want to do stuff with me as well, well we can talk about that later, I mean it's possible. But right now you should focus on her. Originally I had a vague idea I'd give a good show and then you'd vanquish me and rescue her and that sort of thing, that wouldn't work so much now but you get the sort of thing I'd like to go for, right?"
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No. 783320 ID: 398fe1

>>783310
Alright, that's enough. This is a good ending to the fight, he's right.

Meanwhile, Sweatermouse-as-Ref can go "The wrestlers have vanished! I guess that makes this match... a draw."
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No. 783330 ID: bfb318
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783330

"Your mask is gone! That's my victory!"
>"The public must never see my face. But one or two people? That's just fine."
"What. I'm not giving up! Saying 'just' still implies we're inferior or something!"
>"Is it, really? What if I said this was 'just' the most entertaining match I've had in awhile? That the glitcher is 'just' the most powerful person we know? That Alison 'just' likes to hug and there's nothing wrong with that? That you're 'just' a sweatermouse, and that's great."
"You're making it simultaneously making me want to hit you and making it hard to want to hit you!"
>"I do that."
"If I just disappear than I can't do my big twist reveal?"
>"And what would that be?"
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No. 783331 ID: 277439

>>783330
Harrumph, turn away and cross your arms. Guess he'll never know!
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No. 783332 ID: 398fe1

>>783330
That you're this cycle's Sweatermouse, controlling two bodies. Wait a minute, he said "this cycle's sweatermouse" DID HE ALREADY KNOW!?
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No. 783333 ID: 688206

Yeah, no. Let's not do any "big reveal" where we tell radmin, OF ALL PEOPLE, the secret.

Instead, let's just tell him this.

"Sorry, I'm not interested in a date with you. But I will take that offer of the secret escape tunnel. Oh, and for the record? This was sweatermouse's idea. She wanted to get back at you and I wanted to put you in your place.

..Or as close as I could, anyway. Next time will be different!
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No. 783335 ID: 3abd97

Activate Ref Rules, and use it for the clothing restore snap trick. Put on the non-villain Stockingmouse version of Murdermouse's outfit. (Maskless, no stripes on the stockings still, but not on the other clothes).

"I'm me, you dummy. I'm not a Sweatermouse, I'm your Sweatermouse."

"Glitcher owed me a favor for that stunt he pulled."
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No. 783336 ID: bfb318
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783336

"Hmph. I don't know if I want to tell you yet! And I'm not interested in a date with you! But I will take that offer of an escape tunnel. Also, Sweatermouse wanted to get back at you, and I wanted to put you in your place. Or as close as I could. Next time will be different."
>"Ha. Better join the line. Now what would Sweatermouse want to get back at me for? Last I checked, we enjoyed each other's company just fine."

Radmin gestures to follow him, while Murdermouse activates ref rules to summon her clothes back while she formulates a response, possibly before making the big reveal.
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No. 783337 ID: 595d54

>>783335
Let's not say "your" Sweatermouse so easily.
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No. 783338 ID: 3abd97

>>783336
Still think we should go with >>783335

>Now what would Sweatermouse want to get back at me for? Last I checked, we enjoyed each other's company just fine.
"Hey, I had lots to get you back for! And I had to get you back for seducing me by seducing you!"

And then hit him. "And now I have to get you back for claiming to love all my sisters. You only get one Sweatermouse! Um, two. Sort of. Murdermouse doesn't count, she's a spare."
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No. 783339 ID: 398fe1

Be honest. Tell him that it started out as a kind of misunderstanding, but you also wanted to prove you could fight. So you made up this Murdermouse persona, and got some powers from Glitcher to make up for your low stats. Also you thought it'd be fun! And it was!
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No. 783340 ID: 91ee5f

>>783336
Get Murdermouse's mask back on real quick and have Sweatermouse look under the ring before Radmin leaves so that Mirdermouse can be declared the winner!
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No. 783342 ID: e66267

I like the breaking straight into referring to sweatermouse as me plan.
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No. 783344 ID: bfb318
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783344

Sweatermouse declares the match above to be a draw, as Radmin and Murdermouse take a secret tunnel to some other location. Sweatermouse could swipe a look to see a maskless Radmin and declare Murdermouse the winner, but she can't seem to care about a win anymore. Murder resummons her clothes, and now that the match is over, Radmin does the same. Both forego their masks while they have a moment with each other, alone.

"I'm me, you dummy! The sweatermouse you know!"
>"Huh!"
"Don't act so unsurprised! Did you already know?!"
>"I had a minor suspicion! But I admit I didn't know in full, and would not have bet on it! Of course, it's fully believeable you had two bodies - or was that Sweatermouse before a phony? No matter, any whichway is believable, except that you, my sweatermouse, would, heh, do that." You'll never admit that your heart skipped a beat when he said 'my' Sweatermouse. Maybe not even to yourself.
"Well I had to get you back for seducing me, by seducing you!"
>"Sweater, you seduced me long ago! I can't even say when."
"I wanted to prove I could fight, as well. So I made Murdermouse, so I could have some stats! So I thought it'd be fun!"
>"Was it?"
".... yeah. It was."
>"Correct."
"Okay but now I have to get you back to claiming to love all my sisters! You only get one!"
>"If you're controlling two sweatermouse bodies, how about two?"
"That's fine too! Sort of! Murdermouse is a spare!"
>"If you can feel and talk with this 'spare', it's no different. But alright, if you demand Radmin all to yourself, then that's what you'll have! Of course, you can't expect me to not make friends with other Sweatermice, but you'll know that you receive the most of Radmin out of all, as the most special friend."
"That's... that's fine!" Murdermouse says, with her voice starting to increase in pitch, sounding like her normal self. Her blush comes back, as well.
>"How about we go and get some pizza and play frivolous games, then?"
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No. 783345 ID: 688206

Still voting no on a reveal or breaking the news via accident pronoun use.

"Honestly? Off the stage, yeah she enjoys you. Alot. But on stage? You are a jerk. And in my cycle, I didn't take kind of attitude from anybody."

Instead, let's go with a fake tragic backstory! I'm thinking mental snap after Sevener 'wins' the cai fight Alison.
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No. 783346 ID: 3abd97

Everything was just kind of awkward after... *cough* before. So I thought I needed a crazy plan to get you two back and fix things! And Glitcher owed me, so... yeah. Murdermouse happened.

>How about we go
Yeah, let's catch up with Glam and me.
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No. 783347 ID: 398fe1

>>783344
Yeah! Also we gotta find out where the red card sent Glamison.

Haha maybe the ref-Sweatermouse can go on a date with her while the spare goes out with Radmin.
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No. 783348 ID: 91ee5f

>>783344
Bump into him with your hip and tell him, "This wasn't just about trying to seduce you and Glamison. This was also a way for me to try to build up some confidence for myself so that I'd stop being so shy and awkward all the time! Which, considering that I actually did...that to your face, I guess it worked! Kinda???"

"Anyways, let's go find Glam so I can do my big reveal to her also!"

Just for fun, teleport your Sweatermouse body down here so that you can hold both of his hands. Why? Just because you can, that's why!
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No. 783349 ID: 91ee5f

>>783345
Too late! She already revealed herself!
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No. 783350 ID: bfb318
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783350

"Uh before I answer, I just wanted to say that things got a little awkward after..."

You cough in your jacket.

"So I needed a crazy plan to get you two back and fix things! And Glitcher owed me! And I wanted some confidence! So murdermouse happened."
>"Instead of a normal plan that involved coming to us and say 'hey that was awkward, let's never go back to the sensation bar ever again?'"
"... would that have worked?"
>"Yes, but this plan was much better!"
"Okay. Well fine then let's go catch up with Glam and other-me!"
>"Let's. Where did Glamison go, by the way?"
"Oh uh, Referee jail! I'll pull her out."
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No. 783351 ID: bfb318
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783351

You all regroup go to a private instance of the pizza place. The ensuing hours are nothing short of great fun.

Still, there was something back at your mind, though, about how Radmin mentioned that Murdermouse was the final challenge of his.

You use ref powers to verify what he said, and learn that his words weren't entirely true after all. There was no special boss he had to face to regain his worthless but sentimental title after beating all of the other wrestlers. The issue lay in the fact that due to a cycling of teammates, he had not yet beaten all of the other wrestlers required. One more remained.
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No. 783352 ID: bfb318
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783352

Despite how ridiculous all of this has been, despite how antiquated administration had become, sheer principle stands through it all. And because of that, you have no intention of losing to that egotistical brat.

Either you've got to challenge him, or he's got to challenge you, but no matter which way it goes, you don't intend on fighting him on his own terms.
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No. 783354 ID: 91ee5f

>>783352
It doesn't matter who wins this fight. You're both undefeated and the last 2 wrestlers standing, so it's obvious you've both already got your Admin titles back.

But, obviously that doesn't matter now. This is a matter of pride, damnit! Radmin's let all of these wins go to his head and he thinks he's unbeatable now! It's high time you knock him down a peg and put him in his place! He'll have to get used to being in second place after hove kicked his ass!

Finally, we get to play as Severner! I've been waiting for this for a while!
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No. 783356 ID: 91ee5f

>>783354
>after hove kicked his ass!
*after you've kick his ass!
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No. 783357 ID: 3abd97

>>783352
Isn't he busy with the Sweaternerd(s)? If you bust in to challenge him she's just gonna ref teleport you away for interrupting. You're kind of stuck until he finishes.

Besides it's not much of a personal victory if you beat him up after Murdermouse already did half the work for you.
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No. 783360 ID: 398fe1

Challenge him to a CAGE MATCH.
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No. 783365 ID: b412df

Still wearing that glitter Sevener? Do you like it, or has it just not come off yet, that stuff is a pain to get rid of.
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No. 783367 ID: 688206

if you don't want to fight him on his terms, you are going to have to make extra sure that he cannot engage in any kind of shenanigans.

In short, remove his operators from play. Thoroughly examine the entire ring and the surrounding area for any surprises. Ensure that glamison and sweatermouse are preoccupied, birdfeed as the referee and it's a cage match.

Oh, and pull the spark plugs to disable the monster truck.

NO SHENANIGANS. 1V1. FINAL DESTINATION.
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No. 783377 ID: 211d83

>>783350

Wait a minute "Never go back to the sensation bar again?" My whole plan was to seduce you so you knew I was ok with that sort of stuff now! I want to have those sort of sensations!

I was very nervous last time but not unwilling you know.

>>783352

If you want to fight Radmin properly you need to prepare for his preparations. He has already seduced the Ref and will no doubt have all sorts of tricks set up in the stadium.

So the obvious way to avoid those tricks will be to have the final battle somewhere different. A epic final match in a secret area so he can not trap the place up.
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No. 783403 ID: 91ee5f

Assuming Sevener just watched what happened with Murdermouse, Sevener also needs to be aware of invisible crane game claws!
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No. 783405 ID: 65ec8d

If this is the final battle, you have license to really rev it up. Ask Glitcher to make you a super cage match arrangement, the whole ring propped high in the air under an open sky, tower stands all around it. Give the commentators a hovercar or something, and have a bunch of flying cameras. Nowhere to hide anything above, no way to hide anything underneath, no entrance or exit until the match is done.

If Radmin can keep cheating through that, he'll deserve to be able to.
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No. 783445 ID: 121c6b

>>783350

While the sensation bar was awkward I was trying to show that I was ready for that sort of stuff now Radmin. Not that I never wanted to try it again. Thus the smooching and other stuff (start embarrassed muttering right about here).



>>783352

Ok Sevener if you want to beat Radmin you have your work cut out for you. Here is some stuff to watch out for.

1. One of his moves revolves around you. Sure it technically will not work when fighting against you at the moment. But don't count on that staying that way.

2. Radmin works best when he can plot and prepare. Right now he has several advantages in that he is now dating the Ref and has a nice following with the audience. You on the other hand don't like playing that sort of game so have zero seduced wrestling officials on your side.

3. Moving the match to somewhere special should be our first priority. Second should be making sure that Glitcher creates it right when the match starts so Radmin does not have time to prepare traps or tricks.

4. Operators need to be lured to your side. Having some sort of backup to tie up Radmin's minions will be essential.

5. You need to make sure you are in a good mental place for this match. You got pretty angry during the hell nonsense. Make sure you are enjoying this and treat it as the fun diversion it is. If winning this mess will make you happy go for it. If not figure out what will. You and your friends broke the cycles so baring something outside your control causing a disaster you now have a long time to figure out what you want out of life.
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No. 783467 ID: 398fe1

Jeez you guys. Sweatermouse is trying to stay mostly pure, don't ruin it.
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No. 783471 ID: 595d54

>>783467
>Jeez you guys. Sweatermouse is trying to stay mostly pure, don't ruin it.
Objectively false, unless a threesome counts as "pure".
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No. 783472 ID: 3abd97

>>783467
Closing the door completely on any kind of future fooling around if and when she's ready for her seduction to pay off is a step too far, is all.
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No. 783474 ID: b2db3f

>>783467

Yeah this whole silly thing was to romance Glam and Radmin and show them that there amorous advances were not unwanted.

We don't want them getting the wrong idea and thinking Sweater wants to keep there relationship away from the sort of stuff that happened in the sensation bar.
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No. 783480 ID: 398fe1

Glitcher literally read her mind and saw she was only interested in sex academically. Like, the social aspect of it.
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No. 783485 ID: 595d54

>>783480
Okay, and...? She's still interested in sex, I don't know why you think that specific reason is anti-sex. The post you're paraphrasing said she LOVED the social aspect. She's not trying to avoid sex or keep her "purity".
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No. 783615 ID: 0b99d7

>>783352
Cage match!
I can see it now:
"2 wrestlers! no prep! no interference! 1 winner!!!"

no real grudge or spite (they got left in hell) just pure 1v1sies to claim top wrestling admin.
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No. 785020 ID: 15a025

1 on 1, hell in cell cage match right now.
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No. 785537 ID: bfb318
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785537

>Isn't he busy with the Sweaternerd(s)?
Yes, and that's fine, as you don't intend on fighting him right now. Especially not in a place as volatile as a pizza arcade, which if you had to bet, is where he's at now.

>Still wearing that glitter Sevener?
As much as you dislike why it's on there, it does add a flair that works far better than it should considering the circumstances. It is an easy target for Radmin to make fun of, since it's like his marker on your uniform, but even if you were to get rid of it, he would just go for the next lowest hanging fruit for his taunts.

You did modify your mask, though, after finding an oil that slicks your hair enough to be virtually ungrabbable, allowing it to be free.

>One of his moves revolves around you.
Although the rule specified you, that was when you were his teammate. He may be able to change the target - you expect it, even.

You may have the advantage over his weakness - his inclination to save face, even as a villain. It's a well covered weakness, as he can slither through unflattering situations, and spin discussions on himself. He has made himself out to be an unbeatable street wrestler though, who can win anyplace, anytime.

If you challenge him in a neutral, unused ring, he won't be able to rig anything in advance, nor will he easily be able to decline the challenge without losing his precious reputation.

>Cage match
This will also help ensure that his operators won't be able to assist as freely. It may not negate them, though, and it wouldn't hurt to attempt to get some help on your side. You've got a reputation as a hardass on your workers, and gathering just anyone else may look like you're turning it into a team of people against Radmin, even if they're just keeping the side of the ring clear of shenanigans. You would need to gather people who have a good reputation. The only people you know who fit this bill, offhand, are the Alison - excluding Glamison.

Birdfeed as a ref would be ideal. His skills as a ref are mediocre, but his integrity appears solid and uncompromised.

You also consider that you should put your mental self in a more relaxed state for this considering that your temperament didn't help in the hell match. It's recognized, all the same, that your temperament hindered you through artificial statistics more than it hindered your actual wrestling power.

In short: Cage match outside of the main stadium. Birdfeed as a ref, maybe even two referees. Optionally, get Alison's help, and take this whole thing less seriously.

As for all of this, you believe you'll need system help to create all of this. You know you can call on Rulekeep at any time, and Glitcher may be responsive to everything as well, but you have misgivings. You doubt that Glitcher would make a ring shenanigigan-free. Rulekeep would herself, but she's had a tendency to have input from others, and those 'others' may influence the integrity of the match even unintentionally.
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No. 785542 ID: 211d83

Well Glitcher has a sort of Friend/enemy thing going on with Radmin so either way we cant trust him to not interfere.

I would ask Rulekeeper but wait to summon her until you get Alison and Birdfeed beside you. Then they can provide some input for Rulekeeper to work off of.

Also consider talking to her kids first. They seem to be a bit more balanced than there poor traumatized father and mother.

But before all of that you have to go check on Alison and see if she wants to wrestle with you. Plus you still have some lingering issues with her that need to get cleared up if your are going to find your zen and such.
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No. 785544 ID: a363ac

>>785536
while Glitcher may be unpredictable he does have an even bigger hatred of Radmin than you likely most of the items on the list can be acquired just by asking Glitcher to make it so. Make it so operators are all confined to their seats for the match done. Cage and arena outside of Radmins control done. the only big deal is getting a helper on your end just in case. Glitcher seems like he would enjoy Radmin going down
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No. 785553 ID: 65ec8d

I think it's too much to hope for no shenanigans. At the very least, remember, you're powered by the crowd's approval! They've come to expect twists and turns and surprises, now, so for the climactic battle to have no spectacle will reduce both your powers. It should have more spectacle than any previous match! You don't power up from shenanigans yourself, but I'd bet you do power up from powering through them and overcoming, by being the mighty mountain against which Radmin's slippery trickster rain beats in vain!

Besides, providing a good show is part of your job, aside from its influence on whether you win or lose. So call Rulekeeper. She'll at least make sure things don't get too slanted against you, and the input she'll take should spice things up a bit. Take the Alisons' help, too.

... Hey, here's an idea. If this is the last battle, how about you call Glitcher or Haydee and ask if you and Radmin can have extra powers and special moves? Like, maybe explain it as you two having harvested the fighting spirits of the wrestlers you've taken down before, or something. Now you and Radmin have split the powers between you and you fight so that the victor can have them all. That'd make for a bigger show.

And hey, if you're having a cage match, why not a special three-dimensional ring? A wrestling cube! Climb the walls for huge slams, bounce your opponent off the ceiling! Other special features? With the wrestling gods on call, there are a lot of possibilities.
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No. 785564 ID: 3abd97

>you believe you'll need system help to create all of this
This might be a silly question, but could you just get assistance setting things up the hard way? You don't need Glitcher or Rulekeeper magic to assemble a wrestling ring, or a cage. You just need bodies and organization and materials.

Like, there must be some kind of civic effort by this point, right? People doing things for themselves?

Find someone you can trust to be neutral and keep the setup fair (Bandit, for example) and ask for help organizing it.

>Birdfeed as a ref would be ideal. His skills as a ref are mediocre, but his integrity appears solid and uncompromised.
Persuading the mouse to recuse herself probably won't be too hard.

>Team
I thought this was supposed to be one on one?

>You also consider that you should put your mental self in a more relaxed state for this considering that your temperament didn't help in the hell match.
Honestly, this is the hardest one. What do you do with yourself to improve your mental state? You have anything to get over or let go? Conflicts to resolve?
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No. 785779 ID: bfb318
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785779

>This might be a silly question, but could you just get assistance setting things up the hard way?
Now that you think about it, that's perfectly possible. There's still a danger of glitcher family intervention, and accusations that you made it to your own advantage. Then again, no one would take Radmin's word over a neutral constructor's word. Or at least no one should. Again, Alison would be a good choice for it.

>I thought this was supposed to be one on one?
It is, and you're going to do what you can to make sure it stays while Radmin won't be above getting outside help.

>Too much to hope for no shenanigans
You'd be naive to think it's going to be perfect, especially from how the audience sways. However, every match has been a farce made by grappling clowns. It would not surprise you if at least part of the audience was amenable to a no bullshit match with actual wrestling.

>What do you do with yourself to improve your mental state?
This is a tough one, but it's also the lowest priority, so long as Haydi doesn't put in mechanics that don't like your attitude.

You'll consider having glitcher - or perhaps preferably his kids - make some flair, fairly. First off, though, you'll meet Alison.

She's on a roof, whispering things to Glitcher.
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No. 785780 ID: b412df

Find a place nearby to wait, Glitcher almost certainly knows you're there, but hopefully he'll appreciate the sentiment. He's been through a awful lot recently.
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No. 785794 ID: 3abd97

>Then again, no one would take Radmin's word over a neutral constructor's word. Or at least no one should. Again, Alison would be a good choice for it.
*cough* Bandit *cough*. But someone known for wanting a level playing field in charge of setting up your level playing field. Alison's more prone to heroics, and some people might see her as an ally of yours. Or Radmins.

Though she can probably be trusted to help prevent Radmin bringing in outside help.

>>785779
Hey. Can I talk to you, when you're done with your hug-fest?

>>What do you do with yourself to improve your mental state?
>This is a tough one
What about clearing up your Alison-baggage?
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No. 785801 ID: 398fe1

>>785794
Yeah let's bring Bandit in on this.
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No. 785814 ID: 91ee5f

Well, you can ask Glitcher and/or his family to make anything put in place around the ring before a match by one of the wrestlers and/or their helpers is immediately removed/destroyed.

Or you can ask Glitcher and/or his family to teleport you and Radmin to a completely different arena when it's time for the match and have them not announce that the match will take place in a different arena. That way if Radmin does try to hide another invisible crane arm or something, it'll be a waste of time since you won't be going to the normal arena.
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No. 785818 ID: bfb318
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785818

>What about clearing up your Alison-baggage?
You'll test the waters while asking about ringside assistance.

>Bandit
You're vaguely aware of his existence. You got yourself a phone, so you look him up and give him a call while stepping away so that Alison and Glitcher can have a moment.

>"Hello, Sevener?"
"Hi. I need some help with something. Are you busy?"
>"Yes. Yes I am. But I may not be too busy. What do you need?"
"I intend on fighting Radmin. I want to make a new ring that's confirmed fair, and spearheaded by someone who has a reputation of being fair."
>"You want me to oversee a construction of a new ring?"
"That's right, or at least give your approval that it's fair for all combatants."
>"I can at least inspect and approve it, yeah. Got a ring ready?"
"No."
>"Okay. Give me a call when you start, and I'll look at it while it's being made."
"Alright, thanks."
>"No problem."

That was easy. You wait for a moment of silence to speak to Alison.

"Alison. I want to talk to you after you're done with your hugs. Same with you, glitcher."
>"I'd love to, Anya. I might be a while, but for now, tell me what you need." says Alison. Glitcher remains quiet.
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No. 785820 ID: 211d83

I wanted to get your help with making sure the final match between me and Radmin is as fair as possible. So that when all is said and done we are both satisfied with the results and don't have any lingering doubts or anything.

Also I want to mend things between us. I spent a long time angry at you for something that turned out to be a mistake.

And after seeing the friendship that our counterparts had in the cycles before the logs poisoned me against you, well I want to see if we can have that sort of relationship as well.

So take your time with Glitcher and we can talk more later.
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No. 785831 ID: 3abd97

>>785818
Ask about getting her help keeping the match fair (Radmin not getting other people to intervene). She's capable, and she's got enough respect she can probably pull it off. And it's important to you that you finish this whole silly thing up legit, even if it doesn't really mean anything.

The rest... that doesn't need an audience. It's hard enough trying to talk about that without someone looking on. Especially that glitchy doof. Even if Glitcher and Rulekeep and the godlings are basically omniscient anyways, it's different when they're there.
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No. 785834 ID: 87547f

She is busy with therapy so keep it short for now.

I wanted some help with the upcoming match. But we can talk about it later. No rush.

Want to get dinner tonight and talk about it?
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No. 785839 ID: e22b1d

Ask her out on a date. We can explain things there after she is not so busy.

Then wander off to scout a location for the new ring until date time.
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No. 785858 ID: bfb318
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785858

"It's wrestling matters. What you're doing is more important, so just catch me at dinner or something when you're done."

You find yourself choking on your words, because they're true. There's a lot of big fish to fry, and your ability to do anything has been reduced to fucking around in a leotard. Glitcher doesn't seem interested in your conversation, despite this whole thing was his idea.

>"Okay! If you have a phone, I'll look you up in the system the first chance I get - and even if you don't, I'll find you anyway."

You'd like to bring up your previously misplaced anger at her, but she's giving her voice a tone as if you've never had a rough spot with her at any point in your life, which pisses you off.

Since the Glitcher himself seems indisposed to this for the time, you'd rather approach a different glitch or system entity. Alternatively, you're still all too aware that there are thousands of Alisons slithering around. You don't need to interact exclusively with your own cycle's, even if the others aren't a full substitute.

Or you can just scout a new location for a ring. It doesn't need to be large. It may even be better if it's a small area.
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No. 785867 ID: 3abd97

>talk it out over diner
Wait. Did you just accidentally ask Alison on a date?

>You find yourself choking on your words, because they're true.
It's okay to do things because they're important to you, even if they're not intrinsically useful. Isn't that what the hug brigade for fighting for the whole time anyways?

And I mean, arguably, you're shaping and defining your nascent culture here with what you're doing in your first big form of public entertainment, but that's a lot more nebulous and I kinda doubt you'll buy into that meaning much.

>You'd like to bring up your previously misplaced anger at her, but she's giving her voice a tone as if you've never had a rough spot with her at any point in your life, which pisses you off.
Does kinda make it hard to unburden yourself if she acts like it didn't even affect her. Or if it really didn't.

>Or you can just scout a new location for a ring. It doesn't need to be large. It may even be better if it's a small area.
Find a map!
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No. 785872 ID: 211d83

Yeah there are other Alisons. But its your Alison that you need to work with. Don't take the easy way out just because it gets you nervous. You will have to live with your cowardice if you do.

As for Glitcher he has other things to worry about. He died and got put back together and is scared. Right now keeping him stable is the most important thing in the world. If he could give you his responsibilities and powers he probably would in a heartbeat.

The silly wrestling contest? Yeah its silly but what else are you going to do right now? It's helping the contestants and Admin become friends better than most other methods I could think of.

Go scout a ring location. Somewhere private and small.
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No. 785920 ID: 65ec8d

Glitcher seems uncharacteristically quiet. Ask him if he's ok.
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No. 785945 ID: bfb318
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785945

>Did you just accidentally ask Alison on a date?
No, you asked her out to dinn-

You realize that a date is exactly that, according to people you see talking about dates. You're going to have to explain to Alison that this isn't a date, it's just dinner and talking.

>It's okay to do things because they're important to you, even if they're not intrinsically useful. Isn't that what the hug brigade for fighting for the whole time anyways?
What's important to you are things that are important.

"Hey, Glitcher. You okay?"

... nothing.

>"He's sleeping." Alison says. It's definitely not any form of sleep you've ever seen, but either he really does sleep and that's how he does it, or Alison is dismissing the issue.
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No. 785946 ID: bfb318
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785946

>What else are you going to do right now, if not the wrestling contest?
You think that this contest is near worthless, but the only other thing you can think of doing is the only thing that's even more worthless - nothing at all.

>Don't take the easy way out by talking to other Alisons
You won't talk to other Alisons to come to terms with your interactions with this Alison, you'll talk to other Alison's to keep Radmin's operators from screwing with your match.

>Find a map
The only map available is just primary locations. Free rooms, stadiums, points of interest, all highly public. Outside of the map is just the empty city, aside from wanderers looking around.

It does give you a few ideas, though. Some rooftops on the far reaches of town may be inconspicuous enough to have a bit of construction going on, though it could be seen by other wanderers. You could go for one of the tallest skyscrapers, but you imagine wanderers would go to the tops of those. You'd have to remove witnesses by throwing them off the top, and that would hardly settle the matter. Alternatively, the basement of buildings may be expansive and discreet enough without needing to travel far.

You think you saw a hole somewhere in the valley's cliffside, where you blew up Radmin's truck. If you scale the wall there, you could build a ring in a cave.

There are islands out in the distance. There may even be a boat to save you from a long swim.
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No. 785947 ID: 211d83

Well if there is anything we can do for him she would let us know. No use worrying about Glitcher problems when you can do something about the Sevener problems.

How about the bottom of the bay? A little ring down there in a giant clamshell or something with a air bubble.

All you really need are 4 posts and some giant rubber bands. Can make a ring anywhere really. String some lines in between some traffic lights and you could make a intersection a ring.
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No. 785951 ID: 65ec8d

>Glitcher

Huh. Sure hope he isn't engaged in some titanic psychic cyberduel with some terrible external entity and he's keeping it quiet from most people so as not to disturb them.

That's unlikely, though. Actually, wasn't there something about people taking turns to "sleep", as in go into low-activity dormant periods, so everyone gets a go at consciousness? Maybe Glitcher's just taking his turn. Though, that's odd as well that he's included in that, given that he's supposed to be the one running most of everything.

Comment that you heard her whispering something to him.

>Where to place the ring

Didn't you and Radmin burst out of a newly formed volcano when you returned from wrestling hell? That seems like it'd be a rad place for a final showdown between the two of you.
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No. 785959 ID: a8bc5c

You know what you could do?

Have the ring constructed on the island, made to look like it's in a building.

Then ambush Radmin by having him teleported to it and infront of a camera with a hard choice. Fight you fairly or leave in disgrace.
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No. 785965 ID: 3abd97

>>785945
Well he's probably been awake forever and doing who knows what god things. Maybe he doesn't even know how to sleep right. It's not like he does anything else normally.

>where build
If we take an island, you know Radmin is gonna hydroplane his damn truck right across the sea. And someone will burst out of the water as a surprise, eventually. You can't set a foolproof guard over the ocean.

Cave actually looks the most secure.

Hmmm. What if you claimed the inside of a tall building? Claim the top few inner floors of a skyscraper (where no one can see you), clear out the inner-walls and floors to make room for an arena. Inside and high up would be hard to see, and you can lock some doors to keep idle explorers out.

Then when the match starts, blow off the top and outside walls, leaving the ring exposed on the (now slightly shorter) top of the building.
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No. 786172 ID: bfb318
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786172

You catch yourself wondering what Alison whispered to him. You'll ask her if you still care enough to remember during dinner.

For now, you've got a ring on your mind. If you put in as much effort as you cared about this, you'd just string 4 rubber bands around light poles in a street intersection and call it done, but if you're going to do this at all, you're going to do it right.

The windows in most buildings are one way, so you realize you can build a ring indoors. After a few hours of scouting, you find a nice, open room that's wide open and empty, and creates a decent view outside.

There's enough spare materials in the stadium to make your own ring, and this is close enough that you can haul it all up by yourself without spending days walking back and forth. There's also enough debris around the building to properly close off this area from any wanderers.

You receive a call from Alison.

>"Hey, Anya. I can talk, now. Do you have a preference for where?"
"I couldn't care less, as long as it's not some public place where I'll get hassled."
>"Okay. I'll teleport you to where I am, now. Just let me know when you're ready."
"Do it already."
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No. 786173 ID: bfb318
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786173

You end up in an unfamiliar place.

"Where's this?"
>"This is the ring shell. Glitcher and the science team have been altering its look. They're trying to get it to look more like a safe zone, but it's difficult. Enough on that, though, how have you been?"
"Just fine."

....

"... that not a good enough answer for you?"
>"If it's good enough for you, it's good enough for me. What would you like to talk about?"

You almost answer, but she then keeps talking.

>"I like your glitter, by the way!"

You find yourself grumbling audibly, and now will never admit to her that you're keeping it on by choice.
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No. 786176 ID: 65ec8d

>"I like your glitter, by the way!"
>You find yourself grumbling audibly, and now will never admit to her that you're keeping it on by choice.

Hey, now. You chose to keep the glitter on, so it was your choice to wear it right now. She's complimenting the choice you made. Isn't that what you want? To be in a position to make choices, and have those choices be ones that others - including Alison - recognize as good choices?

Anyway, preface your talk by telling Alison that the way she says things sometimes ticks you off, so for a little while, you'd like her to either just listen to you or, if she wants to say something, be... practical, or something. Businesslike? No sentiment, cushiony, comforty stuff. That sort of thing makes you feel talked down to or patronized or coddled or something that annoys you, and you know she doesn't mean it that way but you react to it like that anyway sometimes and that's something you need to fix but if you want to make progress right now you'd like her to be a bit more... eh, like yourself, basically. Temporarily. Just with you.

Then talk to her about your feelings.
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No. 786189 ID: 91ee5f

>>786173
You suddenly realize that Alison has never given you her "Hug of Trust", which is odd considering how often she hugs everyone. No wait, now you remember, you never let her hug you. Actually, you don't care. Why are you suddenly thinking about hugs anyways?!

You want to ask for her help to make sure Radmin doesn't try to cheat when you challenge him. Which means making sure he doesn't try to set up any invisible crane arms or something like that before the match.
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No. 786192 ID: 3abd97

>just string 4 rubber bands around light poles in a street intersection and call it done
An urban environment highway ring might be interesting, but it plays right into Radmin's stupid car gimmick.

>>"I like your glitter, by the way!"
You didn't plan it, but it stuck.

>talk
Looks like we're skipping the date. Or just setting things straight, first.

>What would you like to talk about?
"Look, do you remember how I was pissed at you for basically forever? Did you ever get why?"

Assuming she still doesn't: *grumble* "I swear how can someone who's whole fucking thing is social skills be so oblivious sometimes."

So tell her how you feel. Why it was such a big fucking deal past hers betrayed past yous in other cycles. Why it pissed you off you weren't so much as mentioned in her logs. Why it continued to piss you off she couldn't take a hint when you were fighting.
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No. 786193 ID: 211d83

(Idea for the final match, The ring to end all rings the "Rumble in the Ringshell!")

As for Alison.

Just fucking tell her the truth. Confess your feelings for her and get them on the table.

"So Alison I am all torn up inside about us and being friends and our relationship. Stupid logs made me do stupid things and before that we were apparently best friends or even closer for hundreds of cycles."

"I want to be like that again but I don't know what to do or how to say it. And I want you to be mad at me for all the mistakes I made trying to stop you but you are always so nice I just can't stand it."
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No. 786225 ID: bfb318
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786225

>You're choosing to keep the glitter on
And you're not sure why you're grumbling about it. It's probably that it's a compliment coming from Alison.

Come to think of it, this would be a good spot for a ringbut right now, that's in the back of your mind.

"The way you talk ticks me off."
>"How so?"
"It's nice."
>"... that's bad?"
"It's inappropriate when it's not directed at someone you should be nice to. It's patronizing and dismissive."
>"Do you want me to be mean to you?"
"That, or businesslike. No sentimental, cushiony, comforty shit. I doubt you could be mean."
>"I doubt it, too. I can try to be less comforting, though."
"That's a fuckin' laugh, but go for it."
>"Okay. Please keep talking, because I know that's not the entire problem."
"Yeah. Remember how I was pissed at you forever?"
>"No, I remember how you were angry at me until the end of the CAI battle."
"I was angry at you for much longer and you know why?"
>"I hope it's not because of my past selves."
"What if it is? We've got a long history, even of being friends or more."
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No. 786226 ID: bfb318
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786226

>"I'd like to show - "
"Alison." She's cushioning her speech again.
>"... right, sorry. Let me show you something."

She pulls out her tablet and shows you someone that looks like you.

"Don't fuckin' say that's me."
>"It's not. It's a Sevener from an old cycle. Nervous around people, and scared for everything. She didn't make it far, certainly not far enough to ever be known as Sevener, and she was terribly nice and eager to please."
"So nothing like me."
>"Not quite the opposite, but close. My point is that we have our trends, but each person in each cycle should be treated as an individual, not a template."
"Yeah, well, you seem like a typical enough Alison, not an outlier, so I think I can judge you a bit for not putting me in a single log. Why's that?"
>"Because whenever we got close, I failed you in some way, I think. We had different goals in the end that no longer apply. I don't want to speak for those Alisons, but I think that the Alisons that could leave logs found it painful to think about you."
"That sounds like placating bullshit. If anything, if they found it tough to think about me, then that means I'd be the last thought to get deleted, which is what a log is."
>"I'm sorry, Anya, you have a point, and I can't speculate. Do you prefer Sevener?"
"If I cared now, I would've corrected you. So maybe you don't know, but even now you sound so dismissive. I fought you, I wanted to destroy you, and never see you again. And what do you end up doing as you move to stage 7 and beyond? You act like you don't care about any of that. Like what I did was just without any consequence. You never even took the hints during fighting."
>"If I acted like I was mad about you fighting, I'd be faking it."
"Did you not care about what I was doing even as I was fighting you?"
>"Anya, there's many more ways to care than to be mad. I didn't stage a multi thousand allied attack on system administration and risk everything because I didn't care."
"Fine, but it was all over, you forgave me instantly, like it was just nothing."
>"You were acting on the best information you had, and then you got better information. That was it."
"That's it?"
>"Am I missing something?"
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No. 786227 ID: bfb318
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786227

She pulls out a dinner table from the floor.

"... I don't know."
>"Take your time. Time isn't moving fast, back at the stadium."
"Goddamnit. This would've been over a long time ago if you just yelled at me or something, instead of constantly taking the wind out of my sails."
>"Do you want me to yell at you?"
"Yeah! No. I would, but it doesn't mean a fuckin' thing if you yell at me because you're obliging my request to yell."
>"Anya... you're mad at yourself too, right?"
"Gee, you think? Got a problem with that?"
>"Not a problem, but..."
"You think I've got no legitimate reason to be mad at myself?"
>"...... no, Anya. I don't, I really don't. You're great, and I don't understand, at all, how or why you'd be mad over the things you've done. I'm sorry if I've seemed dismissive of you, but I think I've only come across as dismissive because you expected to be mad or disappointed, and I'm not in the least bit."
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No. 786230 ID: a363ac

>>786227
Jesus Christ Anya just take her out to the Sensation Bar and fuck her already you dopey angry ball of self-hatred. That seems to be the only way you might get over this at this point so just stop thinking you are the worst and deal with your feelings the best way you know how with actions and strategically applied violence.
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No. 786232 ID: 211d83

She has a point. Everything you did and felt was based on a large pool of info your past selves left you that said Alison was not to be trusted. And any info to the contrary was locked away until the perfect set of events unlocked it last cycle.

If you had done anything different you all would be dead right now. You had to be mad at Alison and fight her. She had to die and come back and sacrifice herself. Every event that happened this cycle all lead up to the vital events of Rulekeeper being created and Glitcher being around to hook up with her. Even Glitchers death was vital to solving the final puzzle.


But I think there is a bigger issue that is bothering you. I think it's driving you nuts that you never really appeared in Alison's logs. You have hundreds of logs obsessed with taking Alison down after her betrayal and how many of hers mention you as a enemy?

I think you loved her once. You probably still do today. But in a fit of anger long long ago you left a angry log that you wish you could take back. And in the years since you have fought her countless times because of it.

But she never left any logs about your fights. So you started thinking that maybe she never loved you back. Why else would she never try to give herself hints about how to fight you? If she really cared about you why would she not leave some logs to try and fix things between you?

Maybe you should tell her how you feel.
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No. 786233 ID: 398fe1

>>786227
Maybe some of that anger is from her soft approach working so much better than your hard approach. Jealousy, or frustration? Or angry because you feel like you should just be happy with the victory. She helped end the cycles.

Or angry at yourself because despite her trying to be nice to you and find out what was wrong you blamed her for everything and barely gave her a chance to defend herself. You were mean to someone who is almost incapable of being anything but nice. That's like kicking a puppy.
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No. 786234 ID: e22b1d

Tell her that you are scared she does not care about you the same way you do about her. You have been obsessed with her for thousands of cycles and she just ignored you and went on her way.

You wanted her to care about you more than everyone else. Why did she keep trying to save everyone else when you were the one who cared about her the most.

Why did she spend lifetimes trying to save the world and never once tried to save what you two had?
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No. 786240 ID: 3abd97

>>786226
Why'd did Alison even have floophy Anya ready to go like that.

>>786227
Gonna need a bigger table than that. (Unless Sevener is supposed to sit on the floor, or Alison's tail).

>>"...... no, Anya. I don't, I really don't. You're great, and I don't understand, at all, how or why you'd be mad over the things you've done. I'm sorry if I've seemed dismissive of you, but I think I've only come across as dismissive because you expected to be mad or disappointed, and I'm not in the least bit."
Fucking hell. I don't understand it either, but that's what I got.

I don't get how how can move past all this so easy. Fuck, I think I'm jealous, actually.

>"Gee, you think? Got a problem with that?"
Alison suggestion: I just don't like seeing you making yourself hurt.
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No. 786258 ID: bfb318
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786258

>Why did Alison even have floophy Anya ready to go like that.
She took a second to pull it up. Then again, she did seem ready to pull it up at a moment's notice.

>Go to the sensation bar
You've got no business experimenting in artificially inflicted emotions and senses, when you don't even have your own shit sorted out.

>"But also, I don't like seeing you make yourself hurt." Alison says, finishing pulling the table all the way up. Food appears on it.
"You think I'm hurting myself? You know what, I think I know what's pissing me off after all. It still has to do with you not leaving logs."
>"Does that insult leave that bad of a mark?"
"I guess so. I spend hundreds of cycles and logs noting - even obsessing - over you, with nearly every emotion I've ever felt. And from you? Nothing. Nothing at all. And you're the one who's had a soft approach, and one that works, but it's all to save everyone, and in that, I'm not even a footnote. And when I cross paths with you, you just move right past it."
>"You're not, though. You're important to me, and worth my time."
"Hasn't seemed like it."
>"But you know that I've tried to show you otherwise, but you usually push me away."
"Well feel free to remind my forgetful ass, because I sure don't remember what you're talking about."
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No. 786259 ID: bfb318
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786259

She moves to the side of the table and outstretches her arms to me.
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No. 786266 ID: 398fe1

Hugs. Are you too good for hugs?

Tell her okay fine but don't go bragging about it.
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No. 786267 ID: 3abd97

>>786259
Give her the squinty eye. Stare. And hold it for a while.

"...fine."
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No. 786269 ID: 91ee5f

>>786259
There it is. There's Alison's signature "Hug of Trust". She must've been holding that one in for a long time, just waiting for you to accept it.

Question is: Anya, will you accept Alison's trust?
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No. 786291 ID: 211d83

Wait a minute she hugs everyone she really likes.

Demand a extra special Sevener hug.
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No. 786301 ID: 65ec8d

You don't get hugged. You do the hugging! Crush the naga in a mighty bear squeeze of tough love.
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No. 786327 ID: a8bc5c

>>786267
This is perfect, let's do it.
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No. 786354 ID: bfb318
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786354

You make sure your grumbling is internal.
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No. 786356 ID: bfb318
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786356

"Fine." you say, doing the hugging. "Just don't go bragging about it."
>"It can be as much of a secret as you like."

You hold it for a few moments, before Alison speaks.

>"You said you wanted to talk about your wrestling match, too?"
"Who gives a shit about that?"
>"Lots of people, Anya. You're more popular than you might think, and a lot of people are rooting for you."
"Yeah whatever, one look at Radmin and I'll remember why I'm doing this. I want some help protecting the ring from Radmin's operators or anyone that'll screw around with a fair match."
>"Of course I can help with that."
"Just make it look like you're a neutral third party, not my personal army. And you should look like it because you will be neutral about it. I don't want your help beating up Radmin himself."
>"Mhm. That's no problem, I'd love to do it. I'll get other Alisons to help, since Radmin does use a lot of operators."
"While you're at it, could you help me construct a ring?"
>"Of course. Is there anything else you'd like help with or talk about, wrestling or otherwise?"
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No. 786358 ID: a363ac

>>786356
Just admit that you like like her already you would never hold a grudge with someone for this long if you didn't care for them a lot.
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No. 786359 ID: 211d83

Continue the hug and ask her if she wants to go out and see a movie or get some dinner sometime.

One hug is not nearly enough attention for your liking.

Oh and ask her if Glitcher is ok.
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No. 786361 ID: 3abd97

Enjoy hug without admitting you're enjoying it.

>>786358
Fuck, I think I actually like you.

>Is there anything else you'd like help with or talk about, wrestling or otherwise?
What heck was going on with Glitcher, there? Was that related to fixing this whole mess or are we basically in the same spot?

You were one of the faction leaders working to fix this whole cycle mess, Anya. You don't have to check out from it now. Maybe see how much your decisions and ideas still matter when you have better information. I mean, a lot of it seems to be mysterious god-stuff, but Alison is obviously still involved, or she wouldn't be here.
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No. 786364 ID: 398fe1

Ask if you can help with anything. Anything that really matters.
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No. 786371 ID: bfb318
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786371

I keep the hug going. Alison starts to say something, then shuts her mouth. Probably saying I must like the hug or something, in which case it's good she shut it.

"We should hang out sometime."
>"We should, and we are!"
"This is mostly business. There's shit to do."
>"There's always stuff to do."
"Yeah, better get to it. How's glitcher? Honestly. Heard you whispering to him."
>"I was encouraging him. He's been feeling detached. You might have heard already, but sometimes he feels more like the ring shell than himself. Rather than being the glitcher, he sometimes is more of an omniscient force looking down on the glitcher, and all others."
"More existential crap, then."
>"If anyone would feel it, it would be him."
"This going to be a continuing problem?"
>"I hope not, but... I don't know what to do, other than to keep talking to him. He says when he's detached, me being there is just him hugging and encouraging himself. He says he gets loneliest then, because it's like he's just one big complex entity with a lot of moving parts, but without Likol or anyone to see on the outside, there's nothing else out there but himself."
"And if he removes his capability of being lonely?"
>"Then he stops being the glitcher. Well, one aspect of himself, but he feels like it's a slippery slope then to just remove any emotion that gets inconvenient. He doesn't want that, because then he really will just turn into the old, unfeeling ringshell."
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No. 786372 ID: 398fe1

Hmm. Sounds like what Glitcher really needs is some connection to the outside. Or some way to hand off part of the ringshell processing so that it's not ALL part of his brain anymore. Or figure out some way to make like, a blindfold so that he can't see everything despite it being a part of him still.

...huh, he even feels the thoughts of other Glitchers, despite them essentially being rogue parts of the ringshell?
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No. 786381 ID: 211d83

Sounds like he needs to find a way of taking off the godhood mantle now and again so he can live a normal life? Maybe ask him if he could set up a firewall of sorts between him and the ringshell. So he could go do god stuff when needed but the rest of the time all those ringshell thoughts would be separate from him?

I don't know of a magic solution. But if he can find a way of putting down his burden now and again it might help things.

Just let him know he has lots of friends down here and if we can do anything to help to just ask.

Also keep hugging her.
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No. 786396 ID: 3abd97

>>786371
He can't... fuck, take Rulekeeper out there to keep him company? Or I dunno, trade off who's running everything so no one has to deal with the existential bullshit all the time?
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No. 786407 ID: bfb318
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786407

"Doesn't Rulekeep keep him company?"
>"Of course. But she's still part of everything here, so it's the same problem."
"Even with the other glitchers?"
>"Yes. The science team is still trying to understand it fully, but it seems like the RS is actually able to detect glitchers just fine, and it turns out that the issue is that the normal RS, with no driving AI, was unable to comprehend what a glitcher even was. It didn't have the intelligence to act on glitchers with any kind of cohesion or focus, and often saw them as foreign objects."
"How about he makes a firewall or something between him that he can travel through on his will, to separate himself out?"
>"The research team is looking into that, but there's so many unknowns. I don't know of perfect solution."
"That's funny, coming from you."
>"I'm still going to try to find one."
"That's better. Here's another idea. How about he swap out with some other glitcher-type sometime?"
>"It's occurred to us, but there's not really a way to co-pilot it, so he would have to fully give up control. He doesn't want his kids to have to run it, and although Mittens has volunteered, Glitcher doesn't fully trust him. I'm hoping that Likol, or anyone, makes contact before too long."
"Well he sure better ask contestants to help when they can help. Because we're all kind of counting on him not having a bigass meltdown."
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No. 786410 ID: 211d83

It sucks to have to sit back and watch like this. I work best when I have a problems I can actually tackle. Sure we got farther than I ever imagined but it feels like we have so far left to go now. Surviving the outside world. Building a society from scratch.

Give Glitcher a extra strong hug for me later. He probably needs it.

Hmm what about the Cai? We spent so long trying to fight them. Did we ever actually pull them into the contest and explain what happened? Could they help or offer some advice? They had contact with the outside world for a long time and might be able to offer some advice.
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No. 786411 ID: 3abd97

Maybe we need to copy, like, the selective forgetfulness thing the system used on Shopkeep to keep him from remembering everything from everywhere at once and going crazy to Glitcher. (And/or Rulekeep). It would need an off switch for emergencies, but it would keep Glitcher from being overwhelmed otherwise.

>doesn't trust Mittens to hand off drivers seat
I can't believe I'm about to suggest this, but Glitcher trusts Corruptor, doesn't he? Can he drive? They're all made of the same red stuff inside, right?

(Although then we have the two emotionally fragile people handing the depressing stick back and forth and hoping neither of them breaks and kills everyone).

The alternate solution is we need to fundamentally chance the RS, so it doesn't go back to just making the contest happen if we leave it alone. Reprogram it. Make it so it's responsive. So a normal one of us (or a team of us) can drive it like a car from controls, instead of having to become the car. And it won't, you know, go right back to running us all over the moment we look away.

>I don't know of perfect solution
Fuck. I don't have a perfect solution either.

Accidentally let your guard down and relax into the hug a little.
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No. 786412 ID: 398fe1

>>786407
If none of the research bears fruit then we'll have to resort to counting on outside help. If it starts getting really bad then Glitcher may have to slow down the simulation so that more time passes on the outside so that we can get another opportunity to escape the facility. Like Anya/Sevener just said, if Glitcher has a meltdown then he could do a lot of damage to himself or maybe even to others.

Wait, Glitcher can outright read Mittens' mind, so... I guess that means Mittens is capable of doing something bad once he has control. Unfortunate.
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No. 786488 ID: 65ec8d

This problem may be kinda bullshit.

"Hey, listen. Glitcher. If you're so omniscient then you can hear this and you're probably paying attention because we're talking about you. Do you really think you're me? Because I don't feel like you're me. Just because you're aware of everything, and just because you could probably control everything if you wanted, doesn't mean you are everything. If you're feeling lonely, well, guess what I don't feel lonely, so there's one sign you're separate from me. And if I was you and I was thinking I was all alone, well, I'd tell myself tough shit and knuckle down being content to do everything I possibly could do. Most of us contestants had some point in time during our existence where we were alone, even times we were locked down with nothing to do but wait for someone else outside our control to do something. I don't know how well other contestants learned to deal with that, but I did, and if I can do that, if some part of me knows how to do that, then if you're really me you know it too. Hell, how can you ever have trust issues with anyone if you know so much, anyway?"

"Maybe you think I'm just a delusion or an illusion or whatever but if I am then you are too and so is this whole world, just a bunch of molecules and electrons being shaken up the right way to make them think they're people, so we might as well be real to each other because if we aren't there's nothing to lose. If you don't know for certain one way or the other than just have the courage to pick your chances and take whatever hits you're gonna."
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No. 786715 ID: 15a025

Maybe the Glitcher needs to take a break and go have some fun for once. Bring up the idea of a wrestling between him and Radmin after yours.
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No. 786941 ID: bfb318
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786941

"So Mittens is definitely unreliable, since Glitcher can read his mind?"
>"Maybe. Mittens intends well, but he might be the kind of person who gets corrupted by power."
"Why doesn't the glitcher just make a new glitcher that's completely reliable and safe?"
>"He doesn't want to."
"... doesn't want to."
>"Power corrupts him, too. If he starts making artificial life, or changing people around, he thinks he'll just slip further into thinking this is all one big sandbox, and there's nothing that matters but himself."
"Fine. Has glitcher ever spoken to the CAI?"
>"He doesn't trust them, either. He thinks that they mean well, but he's seen how they work, and they don't seem to have a lot of organization to them. A lot of them seem to be free agents that speak their mind. Which sounds nice in its own way, but it means that it might only take one person to tell the salikai that the glitcher is still fully active."
"How about the corruptor? Glitcher trusts corruptor, can't he? Not like trading RS control between two sad sacks is much better than one."
>"We're not even sure it would work anyway, but the corruptor has already said that he no longer trusts himself with power."

You realize you've been relaxing into the hug some, but you push Alison off gently to talk to her face.

"You know what? This problem sounds like bullshit. Glitcher, if you're so omniscient you can hear me. You think you're me? Cause I don't feel like you're me. If I was stuck in your place, you'd tell yourself tough shit, your entire life has been doing what little you could do while some power outside your control says whether you live or die."
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No. 786942 ID: bfb318
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786942

Alison starts to say something, but she's interrupted by glitcher to the side.

"I'm going to just cut you off, because I know where you're going with this. You're part of me, even if you can act on your own. Me being the ring shell, that is."

"It's not that I hear you, or hear your thoughts, like I'm eavesdropping."

"It's like your thoughts run through me first, then come out here. Like a separate voice in my head."

"And I know what you were thinking. That people out there are made out of cells and they're whole people and all that stuff. But that... that's the problem here. People don't talk to their cells. The cells aren't people. Just little chemical reactions, and they come together to make the whole. But sometimes my perception slides into the RS, and it doesn't see the whole, like what you, Alison, or the glitcher usually see. It sees all the little cells, or bits of code, that run through everything like chemical reactions. I can't see myself in that mess either sometimes, and it's just a giant cesspool of chaotic activity. My personality is like one messy add-on to the RS, and that whole makes a bigger mess than the sum of the messy parts.
And since you're wondering, we have tried to alter the RS. It works, but there's code interacting with code, and it's just too damn complex for our intelligence. We have near infinite processing power, but it's like throwing infinite fluff at a steel wall. Nothing times infinite. And the RS has properties that try to keep it to a default state, which take over the moment that I stop."


He pauses. You do too, since he's probably just going to interrupt you before you formulate your thoughts enough to properly express them.

"I need a break from everything. I'm going to speed up things soon, because one second out there feels like more is changing than me spending 100 years in here. Which sucks. It's not like we don't have ideas, it's just they're all messy, even the one to just make a new glitcher, like mittens except without the going-mad-with-power part. I'd make a decision on my own but no one's going to like that either. Well, whatever. Alison's the only one who wants me to go on and on about my feelings. Go finish your match with Radmin. It's what classic-me would've wanted."
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No. 786943 ID: 595d54

>>786942
"K"

Go wrestle Radmin.
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No. 786944 ID: 211d83

Give him a hug.

Alison is probably right. Your feelings are probably the biggest concern in this mess.

And honestly I would rather die because something happened outside and blew us up rather than us all hiding forever in our bubble slowly going crazy. For better for for worse we need the outside world to help us survive.
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No. 786946 ID: 3abd97

Well if I'm a part of you, this is you telling yourself you're being a fucking idiot. We're not you, and the fact you're inadvertently plugged into our heads doesn't make us you, or you us.

It makes you a magic friggen science neumono. Go talk to one of your stupid furry buddies about how to deal with that when you're checking out the outside again.

Presumably he doesn't have this problem with Rulekeep, or Corruptor, or his kids, or even other Glitchers, since they're RS-AIs running separate from the main RS. (Might be possible to make everyone RS AIs, or to partion the RS in some way).
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No. 786947 ID: 65ec8d

>People don't talk to their cells.

They kinda do? Maybe not to their cells, but they do "talk to" different smaller parts of their own mind, in their heads, as if they were people, when they're weighing conflicting urges and desires.

>it's like throwing infinite fluff at a steel wall.

I feel like that would actually eventually break through the wall.

>I'm going to speed up things soon

Don't you mean slowing things down? If what you want is for something outside the RS to happen, I mean, in the "real world". You'd have to slow the system in here down to make things out there seem to speed up. Unless you mean speed things up in the sense of more activity happening in here, which would slow the system, but that didn't seem to be what you meant.

>Well, whatever. Alison's the only one who wants me to go on and on about my feelings.

Sevener: begin wanting exactly that, out of spite. Also tell him you're pretty sure Rulekeeper would want him to go on and on about his feelings if she thought it'd help, and also that you're sure there's statistically some Listener contestant or something who would want everyone to do that all the time.

>It's what classic-me would've wanted.

Did you never make any progress at reconstructing your old emotional responses?
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No. 787052 ID: b412df

Got it. When you speed things up could you give us a heads up? Feels like endgame here with outside world stuff going on.
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No. 787091 ID: 0b99d7

>>786942
I dunno dude, call it oversimplifying but it seems the crux of the issue is you're worried that the Glitcher is 'just the RS'
Flip that shit, you took the damn thing over and the RS is now the Glitcher, goofy depression-prone douche god.

Seriously though, you being all existential is probably the biggest proof of you being you there is.
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No. 787107 ID: 87547f

You worry to much Glitcher. You always have.

This is just you going stir crazy because you can't attack the problem directly. Once we get back to fighting for our lives against whoever has our hardware you will be right as rain.

I am going to go kick Radmins ass so you go get back to realizing that you always were the RS but never knew it until recently.
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No. 787115 ID: 12e88b

Seems like you've got some CHIM problems going on, boyo! You've mounted the tower and you're in danger of the ol' zero-sum. The Ring Shell is the dreamer and you guys are the dreams, and now you've reached a lucidity of such awareness that you're seeing the dream for its dreaminess. A lucid dream is one you can control, but knowing it's a dream removes the sense of genuine experience you would get if you believed it!

There's a cure for that: arrogance! You have to believe in the worth of the dream itself so much that you can tell so-called reality to take a hike! And in this case, the dream is you! You have to believe in yourself enough that you can genuinely find meaning in something based purely on the fact that YOU see it there, not from any external source!

And you know what? I think your pre-ringed self had that. He joked about it, but there was a part of him that really was arrogant and selfish enough to go "fuck that" to the kind of angst you're feeling now. After all, the Savior had that same arrogance, overcoming all the endless meaningless and repetitive patterns of thousands of cycles to STILL manage to be a massive douche! It's written into your code! A code, mind you, that was installed from outside the ring shell. Remember, you're not a natural part of how this place works! There'll ALWAYS be some aspect of you that doesn't align with the Ring Shell as it was originally designed to function!

Now, old Glitcher knew what he had in him and part of the reason he kept his closest companions with him was to curb his excesses when he was at the highest points of his manic overconfidence - AND to help him when he was at the lowest points of his melancholy, which he also had and which he probably got more from the Corruptor side of his equation. Now, fresh modern Glitcher, don't go thinking you're too different from him, because if somehow there'd been complete continuity between your past self and new self, I'd bet old Glitcher would STILL have felt stung enough by his failure to manage that whole mess that he would have drifted down into the dumps too. To be frank, the degree of feeling sorry for oneself that Glitchers have pulled sometimes also stems from a kind of arrogance, too!

Let's not beat around the bush, here, Glitcher. There's more continuity in yourself than you know, and one of those continuing features is the up-down cycles of your mood! Keep that in mind, man, you've got a pattern going on. Look back on that dry recorded memory of yours and tell me you don't see it. When you think you need to do something drastic, take a while to wait and see if your feelings shift again.

Now let me tell you, Glitcher, you are awesome. Like, literally awe-inspiring. You broke the cycles, both as your old self defeating Savior to end the cycles and your new self defeating the salikai's probes to defeat the archcycles, which would have happened by now if they were going to. Your old self won the heart of a being specifically designed to be his enemy, and even when you lost all your memories and feelings and figured you might be a totally different person, she still wanted to be with you AND stayed with you since. You've achieved what no-one before you even knew enough to dream of. Without you, the Ring Shell is just a clever mechanism, the same way the universe without life would just be spheres circling in spheres until the heat death of totality. You're the ghost in the machine! You're the god behind the sky! If there's any meaning or significance to anything, you have the power and right to decide what those are for you! Reason and rationality are only good as tools! The hammer without the hand is just a lump of metal on a stick! The hand connected to the eye that sees it as a hammer is what MAKES it a hammer!

In you waits dormant the pride of your maker, the sheer egotism necessary to make reality itself play second to your belief in what's important! Find it, and use it - not just for good, but to make the concepts of good and evil themselves meaningful at all! Be a god!!

You already made one AI, right? The coverup one for Vanski, that was able to keep things running on their defaults while you hid yourself from their inspection? If you feel like you need a break from your divine powers, just dig it up again! Set it to maintain the status quo and just alert you to any changes, or to reconnect your full powers to you on a regular timer so you can make quick checks and efforts yourself before returning to normality. If you think that's taking too much power for yourself... well the job there's mostly done already, and what's left over is power you deserve to have. Create your own future!
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No. 787123 ID: 398fe1

Let's go do the thing instead of continuing to bother Glitcher.
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No. 787136 ID: 3abd97

You know what I came here to try and sort my own fucking issues out. Yours can wait in line and should be honored that you get to eavesdrop on ours.
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No. 787151 ID: bfb318
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787151

>Slowing down?
He probably meant slowing down everyone on the inside in relation to the outside.

"This part of you says you're a fucking idiot."
"Yeah, well, sometimes you and the glitcher both say that, you know."
>"Please be nice, Sevener." says Alison.
"No. We're not the glitcher or some part of him. The fact that he's worrying and having existential crisis bullshit is proof he's still his own. It just makes him like those weird fuzzballs out there at best. You should go ask your buddy next time you see him how he deals with it."
"It's fine, Alison. I could use the second guessing. Rulekeep does it too, but she's got her work cut out for her. And yeah I want to see Likol again. Likol and friends seem like they're the only people in the outside world that don't want us dead or abused."
"Anyways, Alison likes hearing all about your feelings because she's a sap, but I want to hear about your feelings because the whole damn system relies on your mental health."
"Good god, don't remind me."
"You ever make any progress at reconstructing your old emotional responses?"
"Oh I can emulate them just fine! It's still just an emulation! Once this wrestling stuff is done, things are going to happen, because shit is going on outside, so enjoy this while you can."
"After I beat up Radmin, I want a spot on whatever decision making team is up there. I'm sick of being out of the loop, and I want to know why you can't just make another dummy AI to run the ringshell so you can take breaks."
"Yeah sure why not you can beat up everyone else up there and settle everything with violence and harsh words and..."
>"Glitcher?" asks Alison.
".... Sorry. She's right, but one way or another, this is going to stop."
"Yeah, it - you know what I came here to sort out my own issues, not yours. Send me off."

You'll have more to say to him later. You'd rather see him be a giant douche again than seeing him be like he is now, and you know he's still paying attention to your thoughts anyway.
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No. 787152 ID: bfb318
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787152

You end up back at your skyscraper arena, internally grumbling at Glitcher for interrupting your moment with Alison. Then again, the moment was starting to linger for too long anyway.

Haydi is here.

"Hey!" she says, sounding both overly enthusiastic and like she's trying to hold her enthusiasm back.
"Hi."
"Heard you need a ring."
"I got help from Alisons for it. What are you doing here?"
"Just making sure you don't need any magic help. Like sending out your challenge to Radmin, all that."
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No. 787153 ID: 211d83

I don't believe in magic. Hard work is more trustworthy.

A few gallons of paint and a banner draped on this building saying "Radmin is a big doof" will get him here just fine.

That being said you are free to help me buy some supplies and paint and hang the banner.
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No. 787157 ID: 3abd97

>>787151
Sorry Alison, but hugs don't do everything. Sometimes people need a kick in the pants.

>>787152
Speaking of pants, how are her pants staying up. There's, like, the opposite of a waistband there. It poofs away from her waist in wiggly ruffles.

>sounding both overly enthusiastic and like she's trying to hold her enthusiasm back
Considering how she was reacting in the last match, that's not surprising.

>"Just making sure you don't need any magic help. Like sending out your challenge to Radmin, all that."
"Part of the point of this was kind of proving we can do things without you guys magicing everything for us. No offense, but we shouldn't be relying on you for everything."

>>787153
I like this idea. "If you really wanna pitch in, fine. Grab something and lend a hand. We're doing stuff the hard way."
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No. 787160 ID: 398fe1

>>787152
She could totally deliver a dramatic challenge.
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No. 787169 ID: 91ee5f

>>787152
"Don't let Radmin find out about this arena. If he does find out, don't let him put anything here that'll give him an advantage. For example, no invisible crane game arms, no bomb hidden above, below, or in the ring and/or ring posts, no bringing any hidden weapons in his clothing that would give him an advantage, etc."

*insert Haydi making a lewd joke about hidden "weapons" in Radmin's clothes here*
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No. 787171 ID: bfb318
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787171

>Speaking of pants, how are her pants staying up.
Probably the same way that the glitcher's tanktop hovers above his collarbone.

"I don't believe in magic. Working for it is better."
"Yeah, it's not actually magic, it actually takes a lot of work to create stuff from scratch. You don't even want me to bring up the intercom or something to shout at Radmin?"
"A few gallons of paint and a banner draped on this building saying 'Radmin is a big doof' or something like that will get him here just fine."
"Oh shit that's good."
"If you want to help, don't let Radmin know about this place until the ring is done. I want a clean match. No invisible crane arms, no bombs hidden, et cetera. You can buy some supplies and paint and hang the banner. But on your own two feet, with your own hands."
"Haha geez what am I a peasant? I'm a..."

"Honestly, you know what? Doing it normal sounds pretty good about now." she says as she descends to stand on the ground, then walks to the window. "What do you want it to say exactly? Just that he's a doof? Maybe add something like 'come up here if you want to prove otherwise?'
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No. 787172 ID: 211d83

No no no I meant do it like normal people have to. No just crawling out there and painting on the building. Meaning no conjuring up paint. We have to go shopping for paint, brushes, and banner canvas first.

Hmm we could say something else but then he would know its a trap/match. But a big insult would force him to drive over and tear it down himself.
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No. 787174 ID: 3abd97

>>787171
>opening the window
Little early to hang the banner out. We don't want him showing before everything is ready.

>Just that he's a doof? Maybe add something like 'come up here if you want to prove otherwise?'
Sure.
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No. 787182 ID: 65ec8d

Ask for her help adding some spectacle for the audience. She's a wrestling fan herself, apparently, so she should know the scene. If this is the final climactic battle, and the last gasp of people's recreation before Glitcher's "serious stuff" starts happening, then the people need to be entertained. If this ends up being the last memory for any of them before they get deactivated or whatever then it needs to be a good one!
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No. 787186 ID: 094652

Haydi, you suddenly remind me of a certain someone having to do with making a mess and worrying about the cleaning lady trying to kill you. Of course, you don't have the bull horns and the porn picture also comes in maple gold.

>Insulting Radmin Poster
You can do better. Let's crank this up.

Make a cardboard cutout of Radmin's stupid face and have Haydi sit on top of it, singing the "Radmin is a blind fool" song. For extra points, add some cardboard word balloons: "Where's Haydi? I can't find her, where is she?" "I'm obnoxious and I know it, slap my butt!" (add a small hole next to the word 'butt' and the exclamation mark) "I love fat chicks because I fail to meet most women's standards." You can even have the head vomit confetti with small print on each scrap of paper that directly insults Radmin's low intelligence and lower charisma.
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No. 787249 ID: 51266a

>>787186
Nope on that last idea. It's insulting, and not just towards Radmin.
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No. 787259 ID: 804a8c

Putting a 'if you want to prove otherwise' at the end lets there be a possibility that he's NOT a doof, and you can't debunk facts by beating people. Voting no on that.
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No. 787260 ID: 0b99d7

>>787171
>Maybe add something like 'come up here if you want to prove otherwise?

No see, that feeds his ego, implies he can just do something to win his precious image back.
Leaving a vague hanging insult will bug the living hell out of him and make him investigate.
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No. 788275 ID: bfb318
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788275

>If this is the final climactic battle
It's not, and you're not sure there will be some kind of final battle. This is simply to decide which ex-admin will be the first to advance. The loser will simply have to have a win a match with someone or something else to advance.

"First off, I want you doing it like normal people have to, not just going out there and painting on the building with conjured paint."
"Geez I heard you the first time! But the shop is at ground level and I'm going to jump down the building and land in the street like normal people."
"Normal people use the elevator."
"Normal inefficient people do!"
"Fine, whatever. But I don't want any words saying to come up here to prove he's not a doof. That'll imply that there's some possibility that he isn't a doof. Just a vague threat is enough to bug him enough."
"Brutal. I agree. If that's it then, I'm off."
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No. 788276 ID: bfb318
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788276

She hops off. Before long, various Alisons come and go to drop things off and help construct the ring. They linger a little too close to you than you'd like, as despite the purpose of all of this, they're taking the opportunity to answer questions about the people and events of this cycle.

You make your request to the Bandit to show up and oversee the construction. He doesn't believe you or the Alisons would attempt anything underhanded against Radmin, but he does arrive, even if he seems to treat this as more of a break from whatever he was doing before.
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No. 788277 ID: bfb318
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788277

Haydi comes back with the supplies. At first she watches you get to work, but then is quick to join in. She is sloppy, but the quality of the poster does not matter, nor do you care about it as anything but a remote way to get Radmin to show up on his own accord. She doesn't say much, but she appears to enjoy manually painting.
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No. 788278 ID: bfb318
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788278

Work continues. An operator turns the corner and suspiciously stares at the work being done.
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No. 788279 ID: 398fe1

>>788278
Hey you what are you doing here
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No. 788283 ID: 90f3c0

Just ignore the operator and keep working.
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No. 788287 ID: 0b99d7

>>788278
Shit, I can't remember if Operators share experiences.
Oh well, there's no real issue even if they do, these dudes are docile as fuck. Get Bandit to go recruit him as a deputy fairness overseer: you stop the Operator from reporting back without causing a scene.
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No. 788292 ID: 91ee5f

You know who would want to help and not be a spy for Radmin? The Operand. Now if only we had a way to contact him without taking away the Operators that Radmin controls. Otherwise we'll get a repeat of what happened last time.
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No. 788294 ID: 3abd97

>>788278
Peaceful restraint. Let one of the Alisons cuddle him and pamper him like he was a mini-Iso. Gilded cage, no reporting back to Radmin.
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No. 788368 ID: 9bf80c

Yes, call a naga to banish him to the cuddlezone.
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No. 788439 ID: bfb318
File 148985504431.png - (77.15KB , 800x800 , 156.png )
788439

"Alison. Keep this operator here. I don't want him reporting back to Radmin."
>"How do you know he's with Radmin?" a random Alison comes by to take him.
"Because a normal operator wouldn't have the initiative to wander so far away from where they belong."
>"Oh, okay. In that case, wouldn't Radmin get suspicious when he doesn't return?"
"Probably, but he at least won't know why he didn't return, or even presume that the operator got distracted somehow.

Haydi waves to me.

"Hey Champ!"
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No. 788440 ID: bfb318
File 148985505098.png - (59.34KB , 800x800 , 157.png )
788440

"Yes?"
"Whattaya think?"

"It was supposed to be doof but then I messed up on the f and it kind of looks like a k now. Is that gonna be a problem?"
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No. 788441 ID: 094652

How did you get that much paint on you? The sign is smaller than you are!

>dook
Good enough.
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No. 788443 ID: a363ac

>>788440
you looked like you were having fun do you want to make a second you that says doof?
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No. 788445 ID: 9bf80c

Tell her to throw some glitter on there. You know, for extra taunt value.

Assign an Alison to security, tell her to trap intruders in more snake hugs.
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No. 788448 ID: 3abd97

>>788440
It has his name on it's that's probably enough to get his attention.

If he isn't properly offended, we can add something else.
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No. 788460 ID: bfb318
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788460

"His name is spelled right, and that's all that's needed to get his attention. Throw some glitter on there, then put it out. Alisons, keep trapping any more intruders till this ring is ready. Is the drop-down cage ready?"

Some Alisons give you the thumbs up.

You text Birdfeed and confirm that he is still willing to be the referee.

Technically there is another admin contest stage after this, but you believe you overheard Rulekeeper saying that it was going to be handwaved. Hence, winning this match will effectively give you your administrator title back. Even if it's a worthless title, you plan on working with Chief and the others for the RS research and decision making plans, and you expect that you won't want to take many breaks from the more critical aspects of everyone's lives.

Therefore, if you wish to deal with any other outstanding affairs you can think of, you'll want to do them before the match. Otherwise, you just have to make sure anything else about the match is properly set up.

If it's all in order, then you can drape Haydi's sign over the side.
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No. 788463 ID: 3abd97

>deal with any other outstanding affairs you can think of
You never actually did go on that date you agreed to. You just, ug, hugged it out and yelled at Glitcher.

Not sure if there's anything you need to deal with with anyone else you know? Other admins, people who used to work for you, other yous?

>make sure anything else about the match is properly set up.
Have we even provided a way for the audience to watch, yet? I mean, it's sort of not a match if no one sees.

Although that can maybe be left to bullshit magic.
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No. 788464 ID: 211d83

Have one last night on the town before you get back to work?

Grab Alison and Chief and Arbitor and anyone else you liked as a contestant and have a little party.

Everyone will be crazy busy trying to survive the outside world once Glitcher matches the time scale so get in one last relaxed group event.

Oh and make sure to tell them all that its been a wild ride and that they were the best bunch of idiots a girl could ever want to be stuck in a horrible death maze world with.
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No. 788468 ID: 91ee5f

Is the sign even big enough for Radmin to see?

I say, no to the whole "one last night on the town" idea because as soon as Sevener leaves something is going to happen and it'll most likely be Radmin trying to do something. So, for the sake of making sure nothing happens, I think it'll be best to stay here and finish the ring.
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No. 788473 ID: 211d83

Wait had a great idea!

Leave for Alison date and let Radmin find this place. He will be all clever and trap it up cause he is expecting it to be the final match location.

Then we challenge him in a random location so he is caught by surprise.
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No. 788474 ID: 91ee5f

>>788473
Sevener wants this to be official and I don't think she'll be satisfied if it isn't in the ring.
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No. 788479 ID: 9bf80c

Have a chat with an alternate self or two, if you haven't already. Know yourself, you know? Talk about things with someone who's likely to know what you're trying to say. And if you're going to be the one who gets the (relatively) big admin job, well obviously you're the best Sevener for it since you're in the position to receive it, but it'd be nice to your other selves to let them give some input.

Maybe you can even make friends with your other selves? I mean, you probably enjoy the same things, and you don't need to keep up appearances so much. Or if you have any good friends already that we never got to see, hang out with them a little. Have some little bit of a nice time so you'll remember what you're working so hard for later.
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No. 788644 ID: 15a025

Glitter bomb our banner and put up for the big dook himself to see.
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No. 788766 ID: bfb318
File 148994474240.png - (76.12KB , 800x800 , 159.png )
788766

"I'm going to go out for a while. I have things to do. Haydi, glitter bomb the sign, but keep it on standby. Alisons guard this place, I don't want Radmin even looking at it. Don't hesitate to call me if there's a situation."

You decide to see a couple of your own counterparts, if just for curiosity's sake. You also realized you never had a proper time with Alison, you merely scratched the surface and then yelled at glitcher. You'll do something with Alison afterwards.

You make contact with a random Sevener that looks like you.

Sevener #3119: "Hey."
Sevener #1612: "Yeah?"
Sevener #3119: "I'm curious about my old cycles. Let's hang out."
Sevener #1612: "Well that's out of the blue."

Sevener #1612: "Then again why the hell not. I'll send you my location. There's another one of us here, too. Come on over."
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No. 788769 ID: bfb318
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788769

You follow your tablet's tracker to a room with two Seveners watching what sounds like a game show.

>"Yo. 1612 here."
>"Well holy shit, present-cycle really did come. I'm 2313." says the larger Sevener with the ears.
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No. 788770 ID: bfb318
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788770

2313 looks you up and down.

>"Cool outfit. It really brings out your personality. At least, I'm assuming you're a outgoing bitch desperate for attention."

If this is how it's going to be, then Sevener tradition demands that you return verbal fire.
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No. 788772 ID: 211d83

What was that? I could not hear you well due to not having ears that could pull double duty as a radar installation.

I would get closer so you could whisper it in my ear but I am afraid you giant chompers would get stuck in my hair.
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No. 788776 ID: 3abd97

>>788770
Hey, we can't all be blessed with giant fucking knife ears. I guess it's lucky you did, since you apparently you got your lips glued shut and had to cut your mouth back open at some point.
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No. 788796 ID: e01e87

Forget Sevener tradition. You are an outgoing bitch. You have more friends than you know what to do with. She thinks you're desperate? Just smirk at her, then try asking 1616 something, like if she thinks it counts as a win when a friend cheats to give you an advantage. That's been bugging you since that confounded squishy simulation, I hope, and might cause a critical hesitation in what's coming.

Maybe if 2313 gets mad at being ignored, she'll get a little more creative than accusing you of being tough as nails, and beloved by all.
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No. 788812 ID: 9bf80c

Smile.

"Nah, this is the latest in the "trying to actually achieve something" line, but I'm guessing you're not up on that style, since you're busy following the "sit on your ass passing judgement" trend. Very fashionable."

Keep it at a friendlyish tone. Take off your mask, maybe? You're not in public.
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No. 788845 ID: bfb318
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788845

"This is the latest style in the line of 'trying to achieve something,' which you're unfamiliar with, following the 'sitting on your damn ass to pass judgement.'"
>"What can I say, with people like you around, it's an easy fashion to follow."
"Easy? A perfect match for your ability, then."
>"If my ability is shitty, and I can still thrash you, what does that say about you?"
"Nothing in reality, since you're not thrashing me."
>"I could thrash you up, I've seen you wrestle, and I'm not impressed."
"That's rich when it comes from a girl with radar installations coming out of her face."
>"Fuck you."
"Fuck you."

....

.... 2313 pauses, then smiles.


>"Fucking hell it's good to be back."
>"Heh, yeah." says 1612.

As stupid as this exchange was, you found it refreshing to sass someone without them having weird, long lasting reactions.

"... yeah. I'm getting on the couch now."
>"Grab a chair." 2313 says.
"What chair?"
>"I don't know, find one."
"Fuck you, again. Scoot over."
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No. 788846 ID: bfb318
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788846

You muscle your way in to watch whatever's on television. Apparently it's a large scale game that's going on in the new sanctuary. It's like a separate world, but it seems calm enough. People are given some kind of purpose, there, and seem satisfied to have one at all, even if it's ultimately pointless in the grand scheme of things in this universe.

Then again, you think, in terms of the outer, "real" universe, what's going on in this CAI isn't a big deal either.

You spend some time with the other Seveners pushing at each other across the couch with 1612 sandwiched in the middle, all while verbally abusing one another. It's all a petty display of dominance that takes far more effort than it would take to stand, and while you're not proud to say you enjoy every minute of it, you're still guilty in enjoying every minute of it.

You eventually text Alison, asking for a proper date. You say that she can bring along a few others you approve of, including Chief, Arbiter and Corruptor.

Alison texts back, saying she would love bringing anyone that Sevener wanted. Corruptor apparently has said he would like to explore the contest freely, some, and look through old stages. If Sevener is up for that, he can drive. Time can be accellerated for them, so that Sevener doesn't need to worry about her incoming match against Radmin.
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No. 788849 ID: 965ca1

The wayback machine sounds perfect.
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No. 788850 ID: 91ee5f

>>788846
Everyone could fit perfectly fine on the couch if 2313 didn't have the widest body out of the 3 of you. She's taking up the most space with her wide ass!
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No. 788854 ID: 3abd97

>>788845
Snaggly Sevener and Dopey-Face.

>>788846
Interesting how many little differences there are. There's actually a sliding scale of chests, height, and broadness.

>you're not proud to say you enjoy every minute of it, you're still guilty in enjoying every minute of it
Hanging out with yourself, doing the exact stupid shit you're into: actually pretty therapeutic.

>You eventually text Alison, asking for a proper date. You say that she can bring along a few others you approve of, including Chief, Arbiter and Corruptor.
I'm not sure if it's better or worse making it a multi-person date, or if you're trying to make it less of a date by having other people in the way.

Or that you've caved to call it a date at all!

>If Sevener is up for that
Yeah sounds fine.

...do you need to figure out different clothes for a date? That's what people do, right?
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No. 788855 ID: 211d83

Aww now that is some proper sibling bonding time. You should ask your sisters what there Alisons were like before you all start wrestling over the remote.

A date with the rest of the harem later sounds good. As does the road trip with Corruptor.
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No. 788859 ID: 9bf80c

You know what, you Seveners should start a gang.

Not like, to do anything particularly shitty to people, just to stake out a territory and graffiti some walls and be intimidating, and race bikes and skate and get tattoos and things like that.

Anyway, go on a historical tour with Alison and Corruptor.
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No. 788874 ID: bfb318
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788874

You consider different clothes for a moment. Then you de-consider them, and think you'll just change back into your standard outfit. Unless you think of a cool reason to wear new clothes, those will work fine.

2313 rocks a bit, before shoving her way back fully onto the couch, nearly springing 1612 off it.

"There'd be room for all of us if you didn't think your administrative ass had to be huge."
>"There was room for all of us, but that ended when you came in and showed yours!"
"Take it up with 1612."
>"Oh, you want her to fight your battles, is that it?"
>"I'm not gonna." says 1612.
"I'm not askin', except you're the one who invited me over."
>"You invited yourself."
"I have the fuckin' texts that say otherwise."
>"Good god." says 2313. "Just hug it out already, you bitches."
"The fuck are we, nagas?"
>"Yeah fuck no, you bitch." 1612 yells back.
>"You both are just sore you got bitched out by Alison."
"Better to be bitched out than bitch out! You had more logs than 1612!"
>"I also had more logs, bitch!"
"And I bet you snuggled right up to your Alison!"
>"Yeah what're you gonna do about it? My Alison's way more snugglable than yours!"
"Don't fuckin' talk shit about my Alison unless you want to throw down right here!"
>"Oh now you're defending your Alison?" asks 1612. "What, she make you a bitch too?"
"I thought she might've until I see your sorry bitch asses bitching!
>"You're the biggest bitch!" 2313 continues.
"We've already established that you're the biggest bitch of them all!"
>"Maybe I was, but that also ended when your bitch face walking in to plant her bitch lap in this bitch sofa."

Within 2 minutes, all three of you devolve into barking out the word 'bitch' at each other. You would be incredibly ashamed of yourself if you were on the outside looking in, but being a participant leads you to shamelessly yell back. It helps that the only other people in the room will share your dedication in making sure that the events that take place here never leave.

You text Alison that the wayback machine sounds perfect. Since it isn't a date, multiple people are fine. She asks if those individuals are acceptable, and if you would like to bring anyone else along.
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No. 788880 ID: 12e88b

Hmm. Not a date for YOU, but perhaps a date for Alison! If she's already bringing Arbiter, tell her to bring Iso too. And, uh... whoever else was in a romance thing with her. Maybe just pile on the core members of her old team in there with her? You might get some insight into her mind, hanging around with the people she hung around with the most. You can all fit on Corruptor, and share some anecdotes about places they went through before if you end up visiting any.

... Ask Chief if he's considered changing his look. Maybe being a girl? He has an old reputation of being pretty harsh on him, and a new look with a feminine touch might break people's assumptions from that and make him more approachable, with his current managerial position. Yes I'm just suggesting this because of that one alternate self of his.
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No. 788882 ID: 3abd97

>She asks if those individuals are acceptable, and if you would like to bring anyone else along.
Yeah that's fine.

>>788880
I'd rather not drag everyone who's ever had in interest in Alison along right now. Especially when Sevener is still sorting out her own issues.

And why the hell should Sevener care if the bird has tits or not?
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No. 788886 ID: 91ee5f

>>788874
>You consider different clothes for a moment. Then you de-consider them, and think you'll just change back into your standard outfit. Unless you think of a cool reason to wear new clothes, those will work fine.
At least keep the mask. If Radmin's gonna do it, you might as well do it too.

>Within 2 minutes, all three of you devolve into barking out the word 'bitch' at each other. You would be incredibly ashamed of yourself if you were on the outside looking in, but being a participant leads you to shamelessly yell back. It helps that the only other people in the room will share your dedication in making sure that the events that take place here never leave.
Start laughing and tell them how much fun you're having with this "bitch off" all of you are having! XD

>She asks if those individuals are acceptable, and if you would like to bring anyone else along.
They're acceptable. Bring no one else.
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No. 788887 ID: 398fe1

I wonder if a safe zone slapfight would be any fun.
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No. 788889 ID: 211d83

You three are so cute together. Defending your Alisons from the others. Make sure to get together with your sisters again sometime.

Wait you texted Alison asking for a proper date but now its not a date?

I think that group is fine. There are plenty of others we could pick but that group has the people who worked together to lead things the most.

Only other names I could think of would be duelist and Recluse.
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No. 788892 ID: 91ee5f

>>788887
Thanks to you, I can't stop imagining all 3 of them acting like the 3 Stooges! XD
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No. 788905 ID: bfb318
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788905

"Alright it's been fun but I'm out."
>"Show us to your Alison some time!" 2313 says.
"Only if I get to see yours. Otherwise you all keep your bitch mouths away from her."

>Texted Alison asking for a proper date
If you ever used the word 'date', you made a mistake.

You make your way to Alison.

"Hi Sevener!"
>"Hi."
"I heard you went and spoke to some of your past selves."
>"Yeah."
"How was that?"
>"... was alright."
"What did you all do, or talk about?"
>"Nothin'."
"Nothing?"
>"Yeah, nothing. That's people talk for 'quit askin' so many fuckin' questions.'"
"Okay. Is there anyone else you'd like to bring?"
>"The only people I can think of are people you're probably smuggling in your tail. Iso, Dueler, Rec... Recluse, yeah. People you want to date."
"I'll bring them another time, and a few others, since time is something I have now. We're all ready to go."
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No. 788906 ID: bfb318
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788906

You, and everyone else, ends up on Corruptor's back, who is still larger than you're expecting.

>"Hey." says Chief.
"Hey. Still looking the same."
>"Why would I change?"
"Don't you have a hardass reputation with your current look?"
>"What, from stage 3?"
"Yeah."
>"The people who perpetuated that reputation are mostly either dead, or lived long enough to see me change."
"I guess. Hey Arbiter, how'd stage 8 go?"
>"About what you'd expect. We're on stage 9, now."
"What, you're still running them?"
>"We want to at least look like things could go back to normal. The glitcher and the rulekeeper have been preparing cycle 3220 - don't worry, it wouldn't be ran normally in reality, it'll just look like it on the outside."
"So...." Corruptor starts, then makes sure people are listening to him before he continues. If they weren't, you imagine he'd turn his head back in awkward silence. "We were going to go through the stages, but some of us never really got a good look at the system bracket zones, and if they did they were under a lot of stress. How does visiting a system bracket sound?"

It sounds like shit. System brackets are featureless voids with floating tiles, and many administrators were weeded out because they understandably got cabin fever.
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No. 788909 ID: 398fe1

>>788906
Tell him that sounds boring as hell but I guess if it's new territory for him you'll suffer through it.
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No. 788911 ID: 211d83

Well you know that but for the rest of them its a interesting mystery. They will get bored quick and we can move on.

So take them to your old place and show them around. Maybe summon up your old system minions and introduce them to the group.
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No. 788913 ID: 3abd97

>I'll show you mine if you show me your [Alison]
LEWD.

>How does visiting a system bracket sound?"
>It sounds like shit. System brackets are featureless voids with floating tiles, and many administrators were weeded out because they understandably got cabin fever.
You can point out there's not much to see, but hey, they're all rebels of one kind or another, and not all of them got to storm a system zone.

Maybe you could make it a little more interesting, by providing commentary? If the system zone is boring, you have to explain how shit works and what people were actually doing with it to have any relevance beyond empty fucking tiles.
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No. 788918 ID: 9bf80c

Well, if it's boring it won't take long. Show them one, give them the tour, tell them what it was like.
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No. 789151 ID: bfb318
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789151

Everyone else hums out words to the tune of 'yeah that sounds great'. You remain silent, keeping as polite as you get. Before you know it, you're ahead of the others, looking at the 5x5 room.

"Well this is it."
>"What does it look like when a stage is active?" asks Arbiter.
"Like this, except back there there'd be a shopkeep baron, a watcher, supervisor some operators, other collectives. We can also zoom in to see contestants doing their thing."
>"That's it?"
"That's it. We lived vicariously through contestants because we didn't have lives here."
>"What about sending requests to the upper echelon?" Alison asks.
"Yeah, another function. We sent thoughts more than words. Whether we succeeded or failed was based on a variety of factors that were as hidden as what decided which admins moved on and which died. Course, some clues were given, like if admins bitched about how bullshit the decision making process was, chances are the decision making process would throw them out."
>"The rules were consistent, right?" asks Chief. "At least if you could figure them out, you'd be subjected to the same rules. For contestants, you'd have to make a ton of gambles. You'd roll the dice, and die because the other person rolled higher."
"Yeah? Well you guys had bullshit rules that were understandable, and we had steady rules that were incomprehensible. We could bitch all day about who had it worse."
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No. 789153 ID: bfb318
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789153

You look over the edge, filled up with tiles. They once looked like they meant something. They're symbolic of something at best, but they're just a visual wallpaper that says this is the administrative life.

"Ever miss it? Even a little?" asks Corruptor.
"Like a damn prison where you had to fight to get a new prison cell. No, I don't. This place makes me sick. So maybe it was a good visit, because now I'm going to feel pretty damn liberated to go dress up in a skimpy leotard and smash Radmin's face in."
"R-really? Do you want us to pull in some supervisors and all of them and maybe catch up?"
"They've got as much personality as this landscape."

Chief scoffs.

>"You sure seem pretty bitter considering you'd have to look over them for, what, a few hours?"
>"Guy we had to constantly examine everyone. Time was slowed down for us. Every damn stage was painstakingly scrutinized. I'd bitch at you all day about how long we had to spend there, except I was given the boot just in time to miss stage 7."
>"Is there any place you'd like to visit, Sevener?" asks Alison.
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No. 789157 ID: 211d83

Hmm would need Glitcher and Rulekeepers help but would not mind seeing how me and you first met Alison. I mean the very first of us before we got all confused by the silly history of our own logs and mysterious notes. Way back in whatever cycle that was.

Other than that? I don't even know really. The stages feel empty walking through them after the fact like this.

I want to see stuff I have never seen before. Like the other Cai stages we never got to and the later stages 9 and onward? I have seen hundreds of logs with our previous selves begging us to stop stage 9 and so forth. I want to see what made it get so bad.
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No. 789160 ID: 91ee5f

>>789153
>Chief
Jeez, if I didn't know better, I'd say that he's another you with the way he seems to be trying to start a bitching contest like 1612 and 2313 did with you earlier!

.....are you sure that Chief isn't secretly you from another cycle?
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No. 789161 ID: 398fe1

>>789153
>any place you'd like to visit
How about the notorious stage 9? See what all the fuss was about.
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No. 789167 ID: 3abd97

>"Is there any place you'd like to visit, Sevener?" asks Alison.
I showed you mine, show me yours? Let's see your little outlaw town.

Where it all started? Where there even admins watching the blobs at the start?

The other CAI battles? That place didn't suck so much. (Although they might not be accessible without causing a fuss outside).
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No. 789265 ID: 9bf80c

Hmm. How about visiting that castle invasion thing that was the "fake" CAI battle? That must have been the first thing you got to do that wasn't this dreary admin thing, right? So I'm guessing you enjoyed it on some level.
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No. 789826 ID: bfb318
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789826

>How about visiting that castle invasion thing that was the "fake" CAI battle?
You remember it vaguely fondly because it was the first time you initiated something of your own accord on a bigger level than your own little world. The contests, though, were purely a byproduct of this, and you don't hold a lot of attachment for the puzzles themselves.

"Alright, my choice next. Stage 9. It was talked about constantly, but we never saw it. I want to see it."

Corruptor looks off into the distance.

"Uh... no, you don't. You really don't."
"What, have you seen it?"
"I've, er, seen glimpses, yes."
"Fine, you saps, what about we see a re-enactment of the very first preliminary stage? I wasn't around for that. I was always a little curious why that was. It's not like we were really needed for anything else."
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No. 789828 ID: bfb318
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789828

You all get on Corruptor, and Rulekeeper shows what the first stage was like.

There are 10 blobs rolling around. There are 5 portals.

"What's the puzzle here?"

The others are staring into the distance, like they didn't hear you. Corruptor answers.

"It's, uh... if I remember right, there's no puzzle. It was just a functionality tester. First 5 to the portal go to the next stage. The others die."
"And why're these guys catatonic?"
>"Oh, sorry." says Alison. "It's just, very, uh... I can't explain it. It's like looking at your own birth that you barely remember?"

One of the blobs crashes into the other, sending it careening down the cliff.

>"Ah." says Chief. "I always wondered if that was possible, but I didn't have the mind to think that well. If I had my wits about me, I would have knocked every single other blob off the cliff for less competition later."
>"You wouldn't do that now, would you?" Alison says.
>"Oh, it wouldn't have been a good idea. A couple of my best friends in my early life could have been those blobs."
>"I, uh..." Arbiter starts talking, then seems to have second thoughts, then spits it out. "I think I tried to eat one or two. To gain their power. Didn't work, of course, but I may have tried to invoke the very first absorption of this cycle."

You don't even want to know what Alison did. You can probably guess.
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No. 789829 ID: bfb318
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789829

Alison picks one up. Another one nearby falls off the cliff on its own accord. Not a single one has made it through the portal yet.

"Okay this demonstration is exaggerated, right? You all weren't this dumb to start with?"
>"We grew up." says Alison. "Think of these little guys like eggs. Well, demonstrations of eggs - these ones aren't real. Rulekeeper made them, and she can't make life out of nothing - not directly, anyway. We did give life to a few system entities, after all. In fact, we think that the glitcher kids started off the same way. Thank you for bringing us here, Sevener, I enjoyed being here more than I thought I would."
"Fuck you Alison this was supposed to be for me."

She laughs and it's a genuinely pleasant laugh and you hate it.

>"Then it was such a good choice, you can choose where to go next again."

>Corrupted Sanctuary. Maybe spit on it for old times sake.
>Insist on stage 9 and up. See what was avoided.
>First Alison/Sevener meeting. Might be a good laugh. Or it might make you puke, who knows.
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No. 789830 ID: a363ac

>>789829
first alison/sevener meeting
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No. 789832 ID: b412df

First Alison/Sevener meeting, dunno if it's first ever but if it is then lets see what things could've been without logs interfering, if not then should still be a laugh.
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No. 789833 ID: 3abd97

>"Fuck you Alison this was supposed to be for me."
>She laughs and it's a genuinely pleasant laugh and you hate it.
I think this is as close as Sevener gets to flirting. It really is a date!

>>789829
I still think we should swing by the Corrupted Sanctuary. They got to see your house, after all, and it's not like any admins got to break in before they had to bail on / move that place.
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No. 789839 ID: 211d83

First meeting.

But do insist on stage 9. Even if its a horrible nightmare of contestant getting torn up in a real physics death maze we should at least acknowledge it.
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No. 789841 ID: a8bc5c

First Alison/sevener meeting. BRING ON THE AWKWARD.
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No. 789850 ID: 91ee5f

>>789829
>"Okay this demonstration is exaggerated, right? You all weren't this dumb to start with?"
They were that dumb. They had to earn CU to purchase their intelligence.

>Where to?
>First Alison/Sevener meeting.
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No. 789855 ID: b2db3f

Get to puking over your first meeting. Should be fun.

Then go to stage 9. Or at least the people willing to see how bad it is.

Because at some point if you can escape the Salikai you are going to have to plead your case to whoever rescues you. And if you want to do it right you are going to have to be able to tell them just what sort of horrible stuff the hardware they use to create your kind does to you.
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No. 789873 ID: 563dc1

Definitely insist on stage 9. You can do other things first if you like.
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No. 789876 ID: bfb318
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789876

"Let's see the first time you and I met, Alison. Face to face, I mean, not me sending notes if I did that back then."

Instead of doing it how Glitcher and Rulekeep had to do it - traveling through space, activating a cycle, and rewinding it to the point of interest - Alison simply queues a request to the RS to recreate the event easily.

You're fed information, much like what happened more often when stages were occuring. It's cycle 84. Alison invaded a system bracket for the first time. She manages to break through the hall and get into the 5x5 area.

"Hello, Sevener?"
>"No, I'm a fucking operator. Who do you think?"
>"Operators don't have that mouth."
"You got a problem with it?"
>"No, Sevener. I respect you."
"You always thrash the house of people you respect?!"
>"... well, if they have a house, yes, actually! But only because they don't realize that their houses are limited. I think there's more out there than just this contest. There's notes, and the Glitcher, he thinks there's stars beyond the stars."
"Yeah, it's called the real world, dumbass."
>"What?"
"We're in a computer. You think this is the first time you all woke up? This might not even be our first meeting. We've done this... at least 75 times before."
>"... that's why I want to be on the same side, Sevener. Most administrators don't fight for anything but survival - but you have reason to believe what you say."
"No. You're getting in my damn way. And you guys are on the verge of death. You've got balls coming in here, I admit, but no. You're dead."

Sevener initiates combat. Sevener is in attack range. Sevener att-
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No. 789877 ID: bfb318
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789877

"Told ya so." Glitcher shows up. "That's why I brought the button."

Glitcher presses it, and everyone currently in the system area is sent to a CAI battle. It ends up being the Pomi sim. During this time, Alison and Sevener managed to speak, and your past self ended up giving Alison a chance after all. By the end of the cycle, you found her troublesome, but being good friends.

So it started off good but then it turned into you wanting to puke.

>"That was beautiful." says Alison.
"Hurk. Also fuck you. Stage 9 next."
"Uhhhhhrhhhh...." says Corruptor.
"Quit bitching. I want us reminded about what we avoided. Put everything in perspective."

Alison looks at you weirdly.

>"Do you need things to be put in perspective? Do you think things are bad right now, so you want to see something worse just to see things aren't so bad now?"
"Also, uh... we can just see stage 9 in its idle state, but, well, I'm kind of told that the real experience of stage 9 is actually seeing it ran, not just seeing the empty stage by itself."
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No. 789878 ID: 398fe1

>>789877
No, we don't need to see it being run. Let's just see what it looks like.
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No. 789879 ID: a363ac

>>789877
I am sure I can imagine what stage 9 is like if I know the rules and see what its made of
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No. 789880 ID: 211d83

One then the other. If it looks bad enough in the first state we can leave.

If I am going to be on the admin team that helps us decide what we are going to do with our lives I need to see the bad with the good. Would rather see it now then have to go track down the info later when I eventually need to.

And I know its horrible and I think I know why. Honestly I could go without seeing it but that would be hiding from it.

Lets just go and I can regret it later.
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No. 789881 ID: 3abd97

If they're too horrified to see it run, we could send some ridiculous fake people through it. Balloons, pillows, stupid things with smiley faces drawn on them. Spare their delicate sensibilities.

I mean, what else is there to see? The last stage? The Sanctuary, still.
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No. 789883 ID: 094652

Get an operator in there and use wireless controls with a regular video game pad. I figure we can install a rewind button to the simulation and run the damn thing with save states until we win.
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No. 789887 ID: bfb318
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789887

"I didn't say I needed to experience the whole damn thing, I just want to acknowledge it. Just seeing what it looks like is fine. Hell, you all can sit it out if you want."

That seems to settle the others, so you all travel to the side area. Rulekeeper never truly demolished the old stage 9, and just moved it off to the side, figuratively speaking.

The contestant starts in a room by themselves, with a hallway leading out. The hallway is covered in half an inch of acid. There is a sign saying there is no puzzle to this room - the contestant simply has to run past through the hallway. Acid will spring up and hit floating contestants. The acid does not do harm, but it hurts greatly.

The only other item in the room is a gun assigned to the contestant in the room. It causes instant death, can only be fired willingly by its assigned contestant, and can only work against its assigned contestant. It is the suicide option, and they can carry it with them in their standard inventory. It is the only item in the entire stage that can be held in an inventory slot - everything else has to be held on their person.

Apparently, many of the people who succeed in stage 9 specifically leave the gun behind. If they do that, they don't have an easy way out.
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No. 789888 ID: bfb318
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789888

From there, nearly the whole thing is a free roam obstacle course that takes place in some kind of rusty industrial complex with a comical level of spikes. Paths converge as contestants can help or hinder one another, but it's non-linear. Backtracking, item hunting and exit searching is included. Roaming npcs walk around to beat the shit out of contestants who either get caught off guard, or are too wounded to run. Obstacle courses often have spikes jutting out, either damaging contestants, sometimes knocking them off walls they're trying to climb. Darts shoot out of walls, acid pools lay underneath suspended obstacle areas, and the list goes on.

There's very little instant-death traps that aren't easy to avoid. Mostly, slipups will lead to small wounds to medium wounds, and too many of those will increase the chances being unable to run away from the bruiser NPCs, slipping into an otherwise easily avoidable death trap, and that sort of thing. The social element seems to be a test of who you can trust, and who you should push into a spinning blade.

You're tempted to play a round using remote controlled dummies or something, but the ex-contestants seem visibly nervous around this, like they can remember past lives spent here or something.

Stage 9 varies from cycle to cycle, but the idea is typically the same. Stage 10 and 11 vary considerably, but stage 10 is generally a large mix of mini games that gives off points to winners. At the end, the people with the most points move on. Stage 11 is similar, but with a more survival aspect - people are knocked out regularly until there are only 3 or less remaining, as opposed to collecting points the whole way to the end.

You think the corrupted sanctuary will be the last place you visit. If there's any other place you'd like to see, you'll probably want to do it now. The new sanctuary of Rulekeep's is too involved to make a brief visit out of and get anything out of it. You'll save it for later. Much later.
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No. 789890 ID: 211d83

I wonder what this stage even tested. Bunch of sick ass scientists must have had some reason for this mess.

Maybe its supposed to throw actual pain at Ai's that might never have felt it before to see if they could handle actual bodies and the senses that came with them. Or was just a sadistic way of culling the remaining contestants and a overall stress test.

Wait that's probably it! The contestant path was designed for Ai's that were going to be put into jetal bodies or robot bodies. While the supervisor path was for those that were not.

Either way this must have been a mess to supervise. The final round of Admin's must have been pretty traumatized when forced to watch this.

As for other places to visit. Paradise maybe?
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No. 789892 ID: 398fe1

>>789890
>what this stage tested
Probably the ability to survive and perform despite accumulated injury-- mental and physical. There was a mental fortitude test before, but none that involved having to deal with pain.

>>789888
Corrupted Sanctuary is next yeah.
I assume we already know what's in the veil block Mittens wasn't in?
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No. 789893 ID: 3abd97

So it's another willpower / endurance test. How much pain can you willingly subject yourself to.

>You think the corrupted sanctuary will be the last place you visit
Yup.

>The new sanctuary of Rulekeep's is too involved to make a brief visit out of and get anything out of it. You'll save it for later. Much later.
Isn't that where you've been hanging out anyways? Even if you haven't seen much of it.
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No. 789895 ID: b2db3f

Do we have records of how many times I went through this? On either side?

Its a horrible place but I am glad we came here. Now that we overcame it for good the whole thing seems like a depressing history lesson. Hopefully all it will ever be from now on is something we can use to scare our children when we talk about the distant past.

But it does make me think. Our immunity from pain could be used against us. Glitcher and Rulekeeper should watch for that in any attack that might come from outside.

If someone knew enough about us and wanted to force us to do something hurting us would be highly effective due to the fact that almost all of us have ever been hurt before. All our pain so far has been mostly mental.

Maybe I am just rambling out loud but its something to think about just in case. I don't want to start feeling every ache and pain but maybe experiencing more biological senses could be a good thing.
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No. 789901 ID: bfb318
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789901

"What I'm curious about is why this stage even existed. What it tests for. Seems like a a test of endurance of how much pain can you willingly subject yourself to. Another damn mental test"
>"Resolve, really." says Chief. "It's not much of a physical test, you're right. Who gets past this can be assumed they wanted something more than their competitors. Maybe just to live, maybe because their buddy wouldn't give up and counted on them, maybe to prove they were the better than the contest, whatever. The other stages weren't easy to finish, but this is probably the first one that was difficult to even attempt. Even Stage 7-3 was nice for awhile, but while that tested internal patience and longetivity, this tested whether external pressure would make us crack."
"Well we could talk about that all day. Do we know how many times I've been through this? On either side of the fence."
"We do." says Corruptor. "It's, uh, you generally made it through, either as a contestant or as an admin. Regularly too! You weren't really the same person afterwards, though, but most people change a bit from this. Unlike stage 7, there's no personality reset, typically."
"Not like I say we should run this, but a little pain helps people toughen up. We could do with some biological senses now and then. Now let's go to the corrupted sanctuary."

>I assume we already know what's in the veil block Mittens wasn't in?
You heard about what was in there. It was a mess, but nothing that informative.

>Isn't the sanctuary where you've been hanging out anyways?
That's the stadium or the town. The sanctuary is the small planet where the Savior used to live. Supposedly there's some big wide-scale game going on there.
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No. 789904 ID: bfb318
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789904

Corruptor brings you all to his corrupted sanctuary. There are devotees still around, but no players remain, making the enormous place look depressing. You won't even spit on it.

Like you heard, it's the safe zone of stage 3 after lots of manual construction took place.

>"I'm going to visit my old tower." says Arbiter. "It's been too long. I think I'll bring some people through again. I know that Sweatermouse would like to revisit the memories, and has been wanting to chat more lately."
>"And I'm going to check what's different." says Chief. "I knew stage 3 safe zone like the back of my hand, so I'm curious how this place was formed."

You and Alison are left on a balcony while Corruptor swims through space on the outside.

"So where's your house at?"
>"Hm? It's no longer here, actually. Glitcher moved it into the big dream town."
"Oh, what, so I could've visited it any time while around the stadium?"
>"Well, no, actually - we moved it to a whole new location."
"Huh. And no one's there? I thought you and your team liked it."
>"Oh Sevener we loved it. It's the first big thing we built together, and the first time we really lived and, for a time, could forget about the timer to the next stage. But we're saving it. We built it as a place to live in peace. It seems like a retirement home. After this is all over, whether it's good or bad, and there's nothing more we either can do or need to do, we'll go there. You're invited too, of course."
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No. 789905 ID: 398fe1

>>789904
Only if there's no way to go out and do things in the real world. You want to matter.
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No. 789906 ID: 51649e

I doubt you're the sort to think things will ever really be finished, so long as you're alive. There'll always be more that needs taking care of.

But there'll be downtime. Waiting for things to happen before what needs doing can be done. You can use that time to visit. You'll probably get a hankering to build something yourself, something you can take pride and satisfaction in, and then you can be the one to invite other people to visit you.
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No. 789910 ID: 3abd97

Awww. They're both smiling at the same time.

>You're invited too, of course.
It's a date, sweet tits.
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No. 789971 ID: 211d83

I like the idea of really living for once. All these contests and hiding from the outside world make me feel like we are running in place.

But yeah you will have to show me your place. And save me a empty spot so I can build a room of my own someday.

You know what would be really fun? Getting a actual body or two and being able to take care of our damn selves. Being able to build ourselves a actual safe house in the outside world and meet some people who are not a bunch of murderous assholes.
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No. 790013 ID: 0b99d7

>>789904
Appreciate the offer but realise you'll never... 'give up' is an unfair term, just...

You'll never stop, retirement isn't for you. There's always going to be stuff to do, decisions to make, a course to chart and steps to take to travel it.

Maybe you'll visit for R&R from time to time, but do you really see yourself ever just sitting back and letting things happen without you at least trying to have a say in the outcome?
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No. 790049 ID: bfb318
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790049

"Hmph. Save a spot for me, but I'll just use it for wind down time. I'm not the idealist that thinks there'll be a time where there's nothing to do. Retirements not for me."
>"Oh, not even I'm that idealistic! That's why we'll need people like you, and that's while you'll have a good room to call your own, whether you're there or not."
"It's a date, sweet tits. Thinking of stage 9 reminded me of something that'd be great, context aside. Getting a real body. A robot body anyway, out there, where we can hide out. They should have good robots out there - or at least ones that aren't looked too closely at."
>"Yes, but... well, it's an option we have on the table. We put it under the 'opportunity' folder, meaning that we're constantly watching for an opportunity where this is possible or at least to pursue it, but it's too difficult right now to actively reach for without bringing too much danger to ourselves."
"Yeah. We can talk about it later I guess. Not too much later. Got to fight Radmin."
>"Okay. Do your best!"
"Yeah. That's all I'll do."

You don't think you'll take it hard if you actually lose, but you don't intend to. Rather, you'll take advantage of having a challenge in which you can try your best, but not have the stakes be cataclysmic on failure.

>Keep talking
>Return to town/ring
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No. 790051 ID: 398fe1

>>790049
Let's do this.
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No. 790063 ID: 211d83

Ask her what drives her now. I mean she was the one who was fighting so hard for so long to save everyone. And somehow she pulled it off by deciding to stick to her principals so hard it got the system itself on our side. What was going through her head when she decided to die instead of continuing to fight?

Did she realize that was what it took to win in the end? Is she happy with the result? And what is she going to do now?
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No. 790064 ID: 90f3c0

Get to the ring. It's time to finish things with Radmin.
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No. 790067 ID: 0b99d7

>>790049
Go forth Adwinistrator
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No. 790086 ID: e01e87

> not have the stakes be cataclysmic on failure

Why do I get the feeling that Radmin is going to pull out the macguffin that makes the stakes cataclysmic on failure?
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No. 790100 ID: a363ac

>>790049
keep talking
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No. 790130 ID: a8bc5c

Talk more, there's gotta be something else left to discuss.
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No. 790137 ID: 91ee5f

>>790067
Alison should say this.
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No. 790141 ID: bfb318
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790141

You'll have a few more words with her, but will keep it brief and go to Radmin soon. You and Alison go walking/slithering around the castle perimeter as you speak.

"Speaking of things you do, I was wondering, what went through that thick skull of yours that you let yourself die in stage 8? Forget if I asked that."
>"The things I stood for became bigger than myself. So if I put myself ahead of that, then, well, I wouldn't be able to live with myself."
"So what's driving you now? Are you even doing anything besides snuggling people who'll at least tolerate it?"
>"I don't think I need to be driven by something. Everyone saw everything up to this point - how could I not follow through and see it all to its end? But you're right, I'm not doing much - I did pass on the torch, or at least, I let go of my torch when people were ready to catch it, and me. What I'm trying to do is get Glitcher to pass on his own torch."
"Yeah, well, maybe he will if he quits being unreasonable about tagging out for RS control."
>"I think he had to be unreasonable and be set in his ways, in certain ways, to be able to withstand what he's gone through. Contestants aren't meant to live for centuries. He wasn't built to live at all."
"That's an intervention for later. You go take your breaks with Iso and whoever else are your snugbuds. You could use the rest."
>"What about you?"
"I don't need the rest. But screwing around the ring isn't serious business."
>"Well, Anya... if you're going to try and convince Glitcher that it's fine to tag out, you'd better not hesitate to tag out with me if you need a break, too, for whatever you might need."
"... what, are you asking to be on my wrestling team or something?"
>"Oh I didn't mean that specifically, but if you wanted, I'd be honored to be on your team."

You intended on this being a one on one against Radmin, but...

>Make it a 2v2. Team up with Alison.
>Stick to the plan, no nonsense. Fight Radmin by yourself.
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No. 790144 ID: 398fe1

>>790141
A 2v2 would be fairer, actually. Radmin's skillset is not meant for 1v1 battles. He's a support build, basically.
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No. 790146 ID: 211d83

Wrestling with her sounds more fun than alone.
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No. 790147 ID: 91ee5f

>>790141
Stick to the plan, no nonsense. Fight Radmin by yourself.

You've come this far, there's no need to switch it up now.

Besides, would Alison be able to actually wrestle?
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No. 790149 ID: b412df

Hmm, I dunno either way. What about giving Radmin the choice? He seems good at reacting to events, but a straight forward decision might throw him for a bit of a loop.
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No. 790159 ID: 3abd97

>"... what, are you asking to be on my wrestling team or something?"
No, that was her inviting you back to her room, but you apply it to the situation at hand instead.

>>790141
Sticking 1on1 is Sevener making a personal statement, and proving herself for personal reasons, even if the real stakes aren't very high.

Taking Alison with her means... deciding that something else is more important to her. That she'd rather make it fun by bringing along a friend, or that she'd rather work together, than make a point about herself.

1v1 is a more dramatic conclusion to the Sevener / Radmin arc. 2v2 is more personal growth for Sevener.

I'd enjoy either, but I think I'm leaning towards the 2v2. (Maybe with some elimination condition where it can turn into a 1v1 cage match?).

>Besides, would Alison be able to actually wrestle?
She's a giant snake with prehensile hair, who specializes in hugs. She has the same advantage Glam did- she's ridiculously unfairly spec-ed for grapples.
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No. 790172 ID: 90f3c0

You've put a lot of effort into setting up this 1v1 final showdown, stick to the plan. Have Alison come along as backup in case Radmin tries to pull anything.
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No. 790183 ID: a8bc5c

1 vs 1 final destination. do NOT abort that now. You'll only make him stronger!
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No. 790204 ID: b2db3f

Sevener you dense bitch Alison just invited you to relax with her in "whatever" fashion you might need. If there was ever a open seduction invitation that was it. So if you are interested in being more than just friends there is your opening.

Go 2v2 for the match. It sounds more fun.
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No. 790209 ID: e22b1d

Wait whatever I might need? Then waggle your eyebrows at her. Cause I am thinking of some 2v2 matches we could do in private.
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No. 790226 ID: 91ee5f

>>790159
>She's a giant snake with prehensile hair, who specializes in hugs. She has the same advantage Glam did- she's ridiculously unfairly spec-ed for grapples.
But that doesn't mean she's as good at it as Glamison is.
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No. 790278 ID: 51b8ec

You know what you must do, Sevener.

Conquer Radmin in the ring.

Conquer Alison in the bedroom.
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No. 790326 ID: 88ce43

Stroke you fingers sweetly through her hair and kiss that girl.

Then go crush Radmin under the weight of his own hubris.
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No. 790329 ID: 51649e

I think if you 2v2, Radmin will just bring Glamison and then the two Alisons will just end up rolling themselves into a big snake grapple ball and you and Radmin will be 1v1ing anyway but without as much space and some of the audience not being able to see so well.

So you know if you'd like that.
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No. 790384 ID: 0b99d7

>>790141

Stick to plan, this is between you and Radmin about admin stuff for admin stuff.
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No. 790490 ID: 15a025

Stick to the 1v1 plan. As cute as fighting with Alison would be, it wouldn't be as satisfying.
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No. 790731 ID: 99f752

This is about being an administrator, and there's no point for an administrator with no one to administrate. The job's a bit pointless if you're fighting alone. Go for the 2v2.
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No. 792728 ID: 80a177

>>790141
And let her have a chance at your fist rightfully inside of his face? Nonsense. This is serious times, and Radmin needs to learn what serious means. No friends, no tricks, no ridiculous shenanigans.

(then again seeing Alison getting into a snugglefight with Glamison would be adorable as fuck)
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No. 792805 ID: bfb318
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792805

>She was asking you back to her room
>Asking to relax with her
Then she shouldn't have used the word 'tag out'.

>That was the opening for being more than friends
As far as you can tell, the opportunities with Alison have never been closed.

"Sorry, Alison, this is between me and Radmin."
>"Oh, okay. I'll just cheer you on then!"
"... do it ringside. I'd be lying if I honestly thought this match would last from start to finish being shenanigan-free the whole time. It may turn into a 2v2 whether I like it or not, and if it does, then I'd like to team with you."
>"Okay!" she says, this time with vocalized enthusiasm. Enough that you think she secretly hopes Radmin will pull some bullshit now that you need Alison's help with.

You look around and make sure no one is looking, then hug Alison. She shows some intelligence, and keeps her mouth shut.

>Return to ring, drop Radmin's taunt flag?
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No. 792806 ID: b412df

Lets do this.
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No. 792810 ID: 1e1842

>>792805
No items! Admins only! Final destination!

Let's go!
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No. 792811 ID: 1e1842

>>792810
The Adwinistrator is gonna kick Radmin's ass so hard, his smugness is going to come flying out of his head! XD
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No. 792812 ID: 3abd97

>>792805
Game face on, then.
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No. 792994 ID: 241e41

>>492805
Weren't you going to talk to Glitcher later? You said you were going to talk to Glitcher later. Do you want to talk to Glitcher now?
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No. 794194 ID: bfb318
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794194

>Talk to glitcher?
Later.

You and Alison head to the ring, while you get changed and get prepared to fight. You tighten your mask down, and put the knots under your own hair, so that Radmin will not be able to untie your mask in a reasonable period of time, even if he had free access. You will not wear your cape, as Radmin will most likely just light it on fire or something. Your hair is re-greased, you pad your hands with chalk, make sure your boots are tied on snugly but not so tight that you can't take them off, and do some stretches to prepare.

Because of your preparation, training, and no-bullshit signature moves, your stats have seen a modest increase. You can expect that Radmin's ability to put up a fight is directly proportional to his ability to pull some shenanigans and bullshit.

Haydi and an Alison take the taunt flag to the side of the building. It is larger than you thought it looked, which makes it ideal. With that, you wait.

A flying camera worm shoots an image of it to broadcast over television, so you know that if you end up waiting, it's because Radmin is making you wait.
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No. 794195 ID: bfb318
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794195

15 minutes pass as you wait in the center of the ring, and under the cage to be dropped. He's making you wait.

You aren't paranoid to think that he's up to something. You know he's up to something. Mittens is apparently participating in the commentator's table, and is fidgeting impatiently.

>"So can I just like go nab him cause he's totally - "
>"Don't spoil anything you saggy set of buttocks!" says Haydi.
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No. 794201 ID: 211d83

He is throwing together a scheme. Question is do you let him complete it or do you track him down and interrupt things.

Or you could just go into the ring and give him two minutes to show. You made a proper challenge and if he does not answer it then obviously he is conceding the match.
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No. 794202 ID: bfb318
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794202

"We're waiting. I made a proper challenge. If he doesn't show up, then it's a forfeit for him."
>"Wait is that what counts as a proper challenge? Dropping a flag that says someone's a doof?" says Mittens.
>"Actually, yeah." says Junior. "At least amongst wrestlers. How long do you think we should wait?"
"Two minutes."
>"I don't really think you're, uh, a fair and impartial party to decide - "
"Two minutes!" Haydi interjects.
>".... neither are you actually but okay."

After a moment, the smell of smoke starts coming through. You notice the smoke coming up from where the sign is. As the fires raise up to be visible, Radmin rappelles down.

>"Oh, it's you! If I knew you were the idiot who put up this sign, I would've done something a little more appropriate to the challenge! Like blow up this entire building and fight on the remnants of this new ring."
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No. 794204 ID: 211d83

Whatever floats your boat you doof.

Just get up here and lets get this match going.
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No. 794205 ID: 595d54

>>794202
Don't give him the satisfaction of rising to the bait. Just get ready to wrestle.
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No. 794207 ID: 3abd97

>>794202
>If I knew you were the idiot who put up this sign, I would've done something a little more appropriate to the challenge! Like blow up this entire building and fight on the remnants of this new ring
Glitchkids probably would have done something stupid like kept this floor floating even without a building.

Clock's still ticking, dook. You aren't in ring fighting yet.
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No. 794208 ID: bfb318
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794208

You say nothing at first, and he continues as though you did.

>"Flattered, you say? You should be proud, as you used to be my partner after all!"
"Shut up and get in the ring before you're disqualified. No fucking nonsense, Radmin."
>"Where did this ring come from, anyway? Are you planning on using that cage to trap yourself in with me? And all these Alisons! All that teasing about you secretly liking Alison turned out to be true, huh!"

You'd tell him to shut up again, but he's getting into the ring.

"Okay, you two. I want a clean match. An actual fight. Like, with punches, and grabs, and that good stuff." Birdfeed starts explaining. "I do have the right to disqualify anyone for any foul-play, and unlike Sweatermouse, I'm not forgiving."
"Ask 'em if they have anything to say to each other!" Haydi yells.
"... do either of you have anything to say to each other?"
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No. 794209 ID: 211d83

I am going to kick your arrogant ass right out of those stupid pants Radmin.

Then after that we are going to go admin the shit out of things and work together to get this place running like a well oiled machine.
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No. 794210 ID: 595d54

>>794208
"You're getting boring."
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No. 794211 ID: 393aa5

You're a terrible partner and a worse administrator.
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No. 794212 ID: bfb318
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794212

"You're a terrible partner and a worse administrator."

"oooooo"

>"Considering I'm the one that's about to beat you up, you shouldn't insult yourself so badly." Radmin replies.
"All you'd prove by beating me here is that you're not the shittiest wrestler."
>"Not the shittiest? So that means you're the worst, and all I need to do to prove I'm not the worst is to beat you?"
"You are boring." You say. "I am going to beat you right out of your stupid pants, now."
>"Are you coming on to me?"
"With fists."

"You two can fight when you're ready." Birdfeed says.
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No. 794213 ID: 3abd97

>>794208
Say nothing. Make a show of considering it...

Then just give him the finger.
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No. 794214 ID: 211d83

Just reach out and rip his mask off while he is standing there smirking. Instant win.
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No. 794215 ID: 3abd97

>>794212
Punch him in the face. His eyes are closed, and he's going to want to take a hit to start charging his meter and shifting the crowd in his direction, so you might as well make it hurt.
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No. 794217 ID: 595d54

>>794214
Yeah, might as well try this.
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No. 794219 ID: b412df

I wondering if he'd expect being punched. Punch him anyway.
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No. 794225 ID: bfb318
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794225

Ending this early is fine with you, but it wouldn't be that easy to untie his mask while you're in front of him, and the mask is generally a tough enough material that you can't just rip it fresh off his face in one go. You can damage it, or wrestle it, off his face given some time, but yanking it off in one fluid motion isn't happening.

You don't screw around, and punch him in the face.

He takes the hit, and catches your wrist while pulling his other hand back.
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No. 794226 ID: 211d83

Headbutt his fist.
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No. 794227 ID: a363ac

punch his face again his hits are like weak baby hits right now.
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No. 794228 ID: 398fe1

Could be a feint, watch his body and block what he's really doing. Gotta take turns throwing out strikes, after all. No combos.
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No. 794229 ID: 595d54

>>794225
>catches your wrist
>less than 1.5 stars vs 5 stars
O.K.

Pull back, mess up his arm, and move away from the punch he's telegraphing.
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No. 794230 ID: 3abd97

>>794225
Flick out your thumb and pinky finger at the same time so you poke him in both eyes.

Then headbutt.
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No. 794235 ID: b412df

>>794229
He took the hit, then grabbed Sevener's wrist, he didn't catch it mid-punch, which would have been harder.

That punch is obvious, so I think he's trying something here, just not sure what.
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No. 794236 ID: bfb318
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794236

>1.5 v 5 stars
Although he caught your wrist, the only thing that stopped your fist was his face.

You flick your fingers out to poke him in the eye. You graze them, but it doesn't do much, so you keep punching. His own fist goes for a punch, then opens at the last second to claw your mask. It doesn't go all the way through, mostly because it's thrown off course by your second punch. You'll have to be cautious about him scratching your mask - if he gets a clean shot in, he could tear it, which will make it more vulnerable.

He lets go and staggers back with his palm outstretched, apparently asking for mercy.
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No. 794237 ID: bfb318
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794237

You wouldn't give him an ounce, but you feel the ring floor bump behind you.
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No. 794239 ID: 398fe1

Throw him towards the bump.
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No. 794240 ID: 3abd97

Grab his outstretched hand, and use it to flip him over you and slam him into the bump.
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No. 794241 ID: a363ac

Ignore it you have an actual ref this time keep the heat up and punch his face off!
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No. 794243 ID: 51649e

Wasn't there something about not just punching/striking too many times in a row? Better not push that angle. Throw him behind you.
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No. 794244 ID: bfb318
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794244

You pushed the rules with your second punch, and it was only allowed because it was a counter to Radmin's own attack - leaping immediately to another punch may lead to a dis-allowed combo maneuver.

Instead, you still leap forward, but grab his wrist and throw him to the bump.

"Oh my gosh did you run out of tricks?!" You hear Sweatermouse yell through a nearby wall.
>"Oh good I thought this was going to be a boxing match." says Junior.

You hear the muffled squawk of an operator.
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No. 794246 ID: a363ac

>>794244
Alisons restrain the Operators under the ring.
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No. 794248 ID: 3abd97

>>794246
Whistle, look at Alison and gesture with your head towards the operator. She'll get the hint to go under and hair-clear them out.

>combos are disallowed
Hey if he's too lame to stop you from punching him, that's his fault.

Advance? He'll probably be up before you can pin him, but keep up the pressure.
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No. 794249 ID: 91ee5f

>>794244
>You hear the muffled squawk of an operator.
Of course he'd need his operators to come and hold his hand during the match. He always has those guys hanging around somewhere.
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No. 794250 ID: bfb318
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794250

"Alisons! Get under the ring and get those operators out of there!"
>"We're trying!" an Alison under the ring pops up to yell at you. "They're actually a floor or two below, they poked a stick up here!"

"Usage of operators is not allowed." says Birdfeed to Radmin. "... even if it's an actual signature move of yours."
>"Who said they're mine? Despite their subdued personalities, they still have personalities of their own, and I certainly didn't ask them for help!"

You want to keep the pressure on Radmin, anyway. He scrambles back to his feet, but you see his body slightly pointed to another spot in the ring just to his left, and his hand seems like it's leaning in that direction, ready to grab something.
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No. 794252 ID: 3abd97

>>794250
He can't have hidden anything here, so either it's a feint, or the operators are going to toss something up to him.

I expect him to pull a trick more than I expect him to be able to coordinate blind with his operators.
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No. 794253 ID: 91ee5f

>>794250
"If they're this desperate to help you, then they must be your operators!"

Grab his hand and twist it behind his back.

"You're so scared of losing that you're going t resort to things like this? Now that's just sad."
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No. 794254 ID: 211d83

Have Birdfeed declare the match in your favor due to him having a partner in a singles match.

Also boot him in the head.
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No. 794256 ID: 595d54

>>794250
"All that big talk and you're too afraid to wrestle me yourself? Acting stupid doesn't change what everyone knows. You really are as boring as I was worried about."
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No. 794259 ID: b412df

What's he trying to do? The Alisons would have spotted someone trying to pass something to Radmin through the ring floor, might be expecting someone to pass him something from the side of the ring? Be on your guard, this might be a bluff.
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No. 794261 ID: 91ee5f

>>794253
Also this:

>>794244
>"Oh my gosh did you run out of tricks?!" You hear Sweatermouse yell through a nearby wall.
There had better be a tv in that room that Sweatermouse is watching/yelling at. I wouldn't put it past her or one of the other Sweatermice to be trying to help Radmin also! Same thing applies to Glamison!
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No. 794264 ID: b2db3f

If the operators helping you chose to do it themselves then they are full Ai's. And that means they are full team members interfering in this solo match.

I call for the ref to sanction Radmin for rules violations.
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No. 794266 ID: b412df

>>794264
I'm not sure about this, but calling on the ref to do things might make us look weak? In a you need the ref to win kinda way? Birdfeed seems fair / good enough that we can probably let him ref without prompting.

I'd be wary of any interference though, since if he was gone then Radmin would have his full arsenal of tricks? Murdermouse or Glamison might try and kidnap him or something?
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No. 794268 ID: bfb318
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794268

"Birdfeed, doesn't this count as help?"
"Yeah, but I can't disqualify him unless I know that he's specifically accepting help, or coordinating it, or so on. Otherwise, someone could disqualify someone they don't like by just helping them."

You start moving towards Radmin since you would just like to continue beating him. You're on guard, though, you expect something from any angle.

As you do, another spike shoots up. This one has a card, which he near instantly snatches out of the ground. You recognize it, and even with your superior agility, you know you can't grab it in time before he can use it.
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No. 794269 ID: bfb318
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794269

>"A keycard, Sevener! I had the operators bring up a terminal in range so I could use it, to gain temporary access. And look, an enforcer!" he says, spawning one.
"Okay, that - "
>"Can it, Birdfeed! We all know. We all know that I can't handle Sevener in a 'normal' match, that is to say, a match with some stuffy rules! You may disqualify me here, yes, and I may be 'defeated'. But can Sevener walk away from this? Knowing that she can only win in a sanctioned, artificial fight? You don't care about the rules, Sevener, you never have! You think this whole wrestling thing is dumb. So why do you suddenly care about the rules? Because what you really want to do is to beat. Me. Up. And now that the rules are convenient for it, you suddenly care so much for them. You say I may be getting outside help, but these Alisons, even the referee, is helping you kick my ass, because you know that if we removed all the rules, this would happen. You can only win a one on one fight, and even with this whole area, you failed to keep it a one on one. I can summon as many enforcers as I like to keep these Alisons at bay. Yes, you will walk away with a notch on the scoreboard. Yes, I admit you have more strength than I on my own. But what good is your one on one fighting skills when you can never employ them against me? When I am, without fail, always able to draft help to fight on my side? Even if you walk away with the most 'points', if I'm the one who stomps your limp face through the ring mat, then who really won the actual fight? Who really beat up who?"

"Uh, yeah, well... Radmin is disqualified I guess." says Birdfeed.
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No. 794270 ID: bfb318
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794270

That's dumb.

That's dumb, bullshit, and pathetic even by Radmin standards.

You can walk away from this just fine, and you've got a mind to. You just found a new batch of respect you apparently had for Radmin, but you only found it because it made a lot of noise tumbling down the sewage drain with that last speech. You could call in Alisons for help, and they look about ready to slither in, but Radmin was right that he can summon as many of enforcers as he needs to for this.
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No. 794271 ID: 595d54

Yeah, let's just leave. You've got something to do that doesn't involve a sad, strange little man.
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No. 794272 ID: a363ac

>>794270
Alisons do what you want with Radmin. Sevener rub that you are the Adwinistrator in Radmin's face then go take your Alison on a date in your victory.
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No. 794277 ID: b412df

>>794270
"That's dumb." Go tell him that, cause it's true. Then punch him.
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No. 794280 ID: 398fe1

>>794269
By what he just said, he can't truly win a fight against you either. So the admin seat will never truly be decided this way.

Tell him you would have simply accepted a 2v2 fight. You even had this cycle's Alison standing by to be your partner. By pushing it to an undetermined amount of participants he's gone too far, and THAT is why he loses. Because he didn't even try to find a fair way to fight you.
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No. 794281 ID: 211d83

This is stupid and continuing with it just plays into Radmin's hands. Accept your win.

But you know what summon up your Alison (after you accept the victory belt) and give her a victory kiss. Then tell Radmin to enjoy second place and you will see him at work on monday.

Then abscond with your snake girlfriend.
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No. 794285 ID: b2db3f

Radmin that is stupid. You are stupid.

And seeing that you have not stomped anyone's limp face through any rings I would say that yes I am in fact the winner.

I am going to accept my win as anticlimactic as it is and go treat Alison to a good time. Go enjoy your second place trophy with your Sweatermice.
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No. 794286 ID: 3abd97

Okay. Wait. He's right about absolutely one thing.

You want to beat him up. And taking your ball and going home doesn't get you what you want.

Stall a minute or two until his "temporary" access expires. They have the cage dropped and finish this. You're punching his face in even if you have to go through an Enforcer to do it.

You already decided the wrestling is stupid, but you wanted to do it anyways. Don't stop now just because it's still stupid. You wanna win in spite of the stupid, not because it.

Also Alison should still be under the stage when the cage drops so it turns into 2v2.
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No. 794287 ID: b412df

>>794286
Changing my suggestion to this. Still Radmin that it's dumb, though.
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No. 794294 ID: e22b1d

He just wants you to get angry and continue the fight so he can try and snatch the win. His logic is stupid and relies on you being the same angry person you used to be.

So punching him and continuing the match would be silly. That would be playing into his little game and we have nothing to prove to him and would be fine wining on a technicality. But that being said accepting a technical win would be boring after we went this far.

What you need to do is prove to him that you are not only stronger but more clever and sneaky than he is. Win in such a fashion that everyone knows Radmin is a doof and Sevener is the Best admin.

So how to do that? You need to stall him and act like you are old angry Sevener and play the part well so you can either steal his summoning card or out wait his temporary access. If he can summon all the Enforcers he wants this match will be a mess of people throwing minions at each other.

Then once his minion access is revoked you bludgeon his stars out and pin his lanky butt.
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No. 794297 ID: 91ee5f

You know, since you won the match, this is now technically a street fight. Meaning there are no rules for you to obey anymore and you can call in your help if you want!

Or, you can just call for Rulekeep, who is the keeper and upholder of rules, and have her instantly revoke Radmin's access and take away his operators. That way you can force him to have to obey the rules!

Then again, this is so sad, he's not even worth fighting anymore. It might be best to just walk away.
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No. 794299 ID: 393aa5

Radmin, I would take literally any excuse to be free of your presence.
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No. 794314 ID: 91ee5f

Actually, I've got a better idea: Sevener, take off your mask!

Let's be honest, whether you won or lost to Radmin, this was going to be your last match anyways. And since the match has been declared a victory for you, that means you can take off the mask and stop wrestling. And no matter what Radmin says or does to try and get you to fight him, don't. Just walk away.

I guess you can give your mask to Haydi, she seems like someone that would enjoy a souvenir like that. And if Haydi asks you to autograph the mask, then humor her and autograph it.
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No. 794318 ID: 16df21

"One on one. No tricks, traps or allies. You just admitted to violating all three.

Sure, I might not win "the right way" for me. But you know what? You cheated. And lost for it."

Take the win.
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No. 794335 ID: 51649e

Ok, he wants to speech at you? You can speech at him. Turnabout is fair play, and it'll run out the clock on his access.

See, you're doing him a favor. He's not a winner. Oh, he wins battles, but wars? He wouldn't know what to do with ultimate victory. He's a trickster, but tricksters don't get to be conquerors. Their victories are to escape a danger, or to trip up people who think themselves superior, and then continue on their merry way. But actual conquest? Winning a position, a job? Work? Nah. That's not what he wants.

He wants to talk about what you really want? Yeah, you want to beat him up, but you want way more than that. You'd say he just wants to have the victory - to show off, to puncture your pride, to make the audience cheer or jeer, and bask in self-assurance of what a great showman he is. But after that? What then?

If he can give an answer to that - a good answer, something you can respect - then maybe you'll give him another shot at victory. Otherwise... well, as said. He's always loved being the feisty underdog, a challenge and a test to someone stronger than him, from Alison to Glitcher to you. He's a coyote destined to chase and never catch, and happy that way. You're doing him a favor, really.
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No. 794360 ID: f66698

You know damn well he's right. Maybe you've all lost sight that this wrestling bullshit was never about you using your talent to prove who's better. It's always been a spectacle to keep the crowds happy, and Radmin is... better than you at that. Yeah, you can throw a punch, you can fight and your tactics are better, but none of those things play to the spectacle that glitcher was trying to create here.

You've had a day of cathartic revelation, you've managed to let go of the lingering hate for Alison because you figured out things were the way they were because of your problems. Radmin here, he's right. He's a better wrestler than you ever were, because he knows it a game and he plays it, because he puts on the larger than life over the top ego and wears it till half the audience loves him and half hates him more than they love his opponents.

You... you should conceed the match to Radmin. He deserves to be king of this shit, because he is king at this shit. I mean, would you even want to continue doing this for the crowds afterwards? Have you ever thought about the crowds watching once during all this?
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No. 794369 ID: 255585

Refuse. He should have known that this wouldn't work.
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No. 794376 ID: 5b93d3

>>794314
>Actually, I've got a better idea: Sevener, take off your mask!

This. He has conceded that he is unable to win in a wrestling match, so you are the champion. And in possibly a better way than actually beating him: you've gotten him to admit he cannot win.
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No. 794382 ID: 91ee5f

>>794376
>you've gotten him to admit he cannot win.
That makes this extra special, since Radmin is always bragging about how he can do anything and there's nothing he can't do!
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No. 794397 ID: bfb318
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794397

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No. 794398 ID: bfb318
File 149168346862.png - (154.76KB , 800x800 , 195.png )
794398

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No. 794399 ID: bfb318
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794399

Alison catches up.

>"That's it?"
"That's it."
>"So, what now?"
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No. 794400 ID: 211d83

Kiss the snek!
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No. 794402 ID: a628ab

Kiss the snek?
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No. 794405 ID: a363ac

>>794399
Kiss that snek.
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No. 794406 ID: b412df

I don't know, probably get out of this wrestler's outfit.

Man, Radmin, had to take things too far. You could have had someone kidnap the ref, break / bend the rules a little. Instead you sapped the fun out of it for what? To prove a point?
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No. 794407 ID: b2db3f

I am going to do something that has been a long time coming.

(Kiss the snek)
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No. 794408 ID: 3abd97

>>794398
Poor Haydi, she was psyched for a fight.

She'll just have to start throwing people into the ring, or tackle Radmin herself.

>>794399
Now I figure out how to do something where I'm not defined by opposing something all the goddamn time.

Delivered after kissing that snek, obviously.
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No. 794417 ID: 91ee5f

>>794399
>"So, what now?"
"Get out of this wrestler outfit and change my body from a wrestler's body back to the way I like it."

>Everyone saying kiss Alison.
I don't know why you guys are saying Sevener should do that. That's so out of character for her!

I mean, I'm not against it, I'd like to see that happen myself. But if we're gonna have Sevener do this, then you guys need to be more specific than, "Kiss the snek!"

Do you guys want Sevener to kiss Alison on the lips or kiss Alison on the cheek?

I vote for kiss Alison on the lips!
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No. 794420 ID: bfb318
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794420

"Get out of this outfit, I guess. Come on."

You hear Haydi and Radmin yelling as you lead Alison down.

"The hell was that?!"
>"Hey, I thought she was going to throw an expletive my way and charge me! I didn't think she'd actually leave!"
"Well fuck you Radmin I came for a fight and I'm getting one!"
>"Well who's left around to fight? Perhaps murdermouse is in the other room wanting a rematch?"
"Screw it I'm fighting! She gave me her mask so I'm Sevener now! Get over here!"
>"The ring is here, so it's you who has to move!"

The voices get too silent, but you hear some crashing.
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No. 794421 ID: bfb318
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794421

You make sure no one else is around, then kiss Alison.

Although you're not in a hurry for it to end, you've got places to be.

"Now I figured out how to do something where I'm not defined by opposing something all the goddamn time. Come on, we've got places to be. Also, not a fuckin' word about what I just did."

Alison just smiles.
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No. 794424 ID: bfb318
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794424

Chief would consider himself a liar if he ever said he was above backstabbing, but in general, he tries to keep promises to the ones he trusts most, especially these days. Which is why promising Succubus that he would relax was probably the worst mistake he has made in your life, at least the ones he can remember easily.
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No. 794425 ID: 211d83

Well just look at you! How are you going to relax in that bland room.

Order of business:

1. Get fluffier chair with comfy footstool.
2. Get large stone fireplace next to you for ambience.
3. Procure pipe for puffing on.
4. Get a nice book.
5. Fill relaxing room with stuff Chief would enjoy.
6. (get lap dance from Succubus)
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No. 794426 ID: a363ac

>>794424
why not become a wrestler?
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No. 794427 ID: 398fe1

>>794424
Relaxing doesn't mean forcing yourself to do nothing. Time to find a hobby. Puzzle games, sculpture, pottery, painting(or other art), cooking...
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No. 794428 ID: b2db3f

Go relax with Succubus then. Preferably on the beach somewhere. She can wear a cute swimsuit and you can relax in her lap while listening to the surf.
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No. 794430 ID: b412df

You tried playing Chess, Chief? That seems like your sorta thing.
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No. 794431 ID: 3abd97

>>794421
A new contender has entered the love quadrangle! They better watch out, cause she can beat most of them up.

>>794424
Did watching Murdermouse's antics on television count? Maybe you're already off the hook.

>>794425
These sound like good ideas. (Except maybe the last one).

When you're bored of making yourself be comfy, you could go hang out with some old friends, maybe? From the long-ass survival puzzle, maybe. Or from the old-old days before you built an organization and then Alison. Or any newer friends, maybe?
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No. 794433 ID: 91ee5f

>>794427
>>794428
Either of these will work.
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No. 794442 ID: bfb318
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794442

A bland room was always calming to Chief. Although, for reasons long passed, too much blue in an area causes him stress. He'll at least change it to a bland gray.

He then summons a fireplace, and while he's at it, completes the mental image with a fluffier chair and footstool, and a pipe for puffing on. Also, a book. Then he throws the book and pipe away because he does not feel like reading or piping.

He doubts wrestling is for him. It's too much chaos for being too much of a game. Occasionally a match interests him - he did enjoy the Murdermouse-Radmin match - but they just prove to be short distractions.

Succubus has gone back to work, so Chief doesn't intend on calling her away from it just to keep himself company. Then again, it's not like the Glitcher can't just create two Succubus' like he did with Sweatermouse. Still, Chief has spent far too long with too many people. Meeting new people is met with apathy, meeting old people is only effective in doses. He's spent so much time reminiscing that he's begun to reminisce about reminiscing. Succubus is a long time friend that knows how to treat Chief, down to the point that sometimes Chief feels that she's become his mental caretaker. Fetching new hobbies, while a good idea, is met with more apathy. He has spent a long time learning things, and he's grown bored of virtually all of it.

He has begun to think that he's lived too long, having spent two long lives, one each for 7-3 and then in the ring shell operations. Succubus would have been in the same boat, but she uses the occasional personality reset, something Chief doesn't want to afford.

Perhaps it's time to call in the towel on this 'promise' and argue that, all in all, Chief was always more relaxed at absorbing himself in work work than relaxed at relaxing.

Or maybe he's just making excuses. He doesn't know anymore.

>Get a double-Succubus so she can keep the work rolling while keeping Chief company.
>Go meet Succubus at work. Then work.
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No. 794445 ID: 398fe1

>>794442
When was the last time you slept?

Option B sounds good if you can't even sleep.
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No. 794446 ID: 3abd97

Duplicating Succubus without her input seems a little rude. Even if, if there's anyone who could roll with that, it would be her.

...though it is sort of a harmless prank, and you haven't gotten to really pull anything over anyone since you were "evil". And what's the point of being a charming old person if you can't use it to get away with things?

I don't think you should give up on finding a way to relax. You like work because it's challenging and stimulating, and you're having a hard time finding a recreation that's similarly challenging. But you shouldn't give up just yet!

>Succubus is a long time friend that knows how to treat Chief, down to the point that sometimes Chief feels that she's become his mental caretaker
That's kinda sweet.
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No. 794447 ID: 211d83

Have Succubus take a vacation with you. None of this duplicating her nonsense.
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No. 794450 ID: b412df

Have you ever thought about meeting yourself from another cycle?
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No. 794455 ID: 51649e

Hmm. There had to be some sort of limit to that promise, right? At least an implied one? She wouldn't have asked you to just relax forever. Well, either way, a promise can be undone without breaking it if you're released from it by the person to whom it was made. So, you could call Succubus, explain how you feel and ask if she'd let you loose.

Though, if new hobbies won't do it for you, perhaps new work would? Relaxation is comparative, and you could take up a task that's valuable or useful while still not stressing you too much.

Psychology, for example? There must be a lot of people who are still dealing with old mental issues, and who are finding new ones, including yourself. Research what info the system has, do investigations of your own, come up with theories and test them (insofar as is ethical), approach the question from a personal professional perspective rather than looking at the base mechanics under the thoughts. You can leverage your apathy for it; a lot of people might prefer to talk about their problems to someone who won't care. Let 'em lie on the couch and talk to the back of your chair while you take notes and ask questions. There don't seem to be many major disasters in the offing, so it's something your world doesn't seem to 100% direly need, but you could find out some important things.

Or how about trying new experiences? The motor control or physics things, instincts, et cetera. Maybe things that it could conceivably be useful to have people trained in, like a simulation of controlling a robotic body in the real world, et cetera?
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No. 794472 ID: a43366

>Get a double-Succubus so she can keep the work rolling while keeping Chief company.
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No. 794483 ID: 91ee5f

>>794447
>>794450
Either of these will work.
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No. 794485 ID: 1e7aa8

Yeah, let's not duplicate succubus without her input or permission on the matter.

How about just... Making something? Doesn't have to be grandiose or a paragon of artistry. It would technically count as work and also count as relaxation if you enjoyed it. Pottery, perhaps?
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No. 794555 ID: 15a025

Go meet Succubus and help her at work.
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No. 794813 ID: 6311a8

>>794485
Yeah, find something to do that's a hobby rather than work (and no cheating!)
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No. 794820 ID: 51649e

>>794813

He just said that hobbies don't do it for him. He needs to find work that's relaxing somehow, not just a hobby.
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No. 794843 ID: c6c957
794843

You could go visit Pepper. Maybe help someone else with their work.
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No. 794865 ID: 78a3e5

>>794472
I misunderstood what double-succubus meant. I thought that it meant summoning up an alternate succubus. I rescend this vote.
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No. 795176 ID: 211d83

Sounds like you will probably be up to your neck in work once Glitcher hits the button.

So find something you have not done and go do it. Did you ever get around to boning Pepper?
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No. 795179 ID: bfb318
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795179

>Duplicating Succubus without her input
Chief didn't consider doing it behind her back, rather he knew that she would go along with it once he requested it of her. Especially since it comes for the purpose of helping him relax, though he would also be a liar if he didn't say it was troubling how dependant he became on her.

>Have you ever thought about meeting yourself from another cycle?
This has been done. At this point, it's almost become some external manner of reminiscing. Not many Chiefs have lived through the stage 7 he's familiar with, and looking at them is depressing. It's made worse, too, knowing that his own self is an even more advanced stage of ennui than the others.

>Psychology
Chief has studied much of that during his time in the RS. The studies did not just include the RS itself in the end, but all manners of sciences and social studies to better understand the universe outside of the CAI.

>The motor control or physics things, instincts, et cetera. Maybe things that it could conceivably be useful to have people trained in, like a simulation of controlling a robotic body in the real world, et cetera?
Including this. Chief has experienced near perfect simulations of physical bodies and the sensations it has brung, and know how to pilot a variety of mechanical bodies.

>Pottery
A time was spent in Stage 7 to construct statues and the like using the remaining rubble in many of the later years. Chief may do it still from time to time, but it only serves as the occasional distraction now.

>Sleep
Chief does sleep now and then, but it isn't as necessary as it was in stage 7.

He grabs his phone and sends a message to Succubus.

"Hello. I hate to ask it of you, but could you take time off work to come see me?"

In a moment, Succubus teleports in.

>"Hey, what's up? Can't relax?"
"Correct. Go back if I got you at a bad time, as work is more important than me."
>"Sheesh, I'm just a glorified secretary."
"Nonsense. You are the grease in the machine."
>"... I guess that's a complement? Calling me grease isn't really..."
"It's saying you are an integral part of the process. I may be taking up valuable time just for my own selfish shortcomings."
>"Now that's nonsense. I'm not even going to explain why. Plus, the place basically runs itself now."
"How is Pepper doing, by the way?"
>"She's running triple angle collision experiments."
"Sounds... fascinating."
>"It's not, chief. The results could be, but the process is really not."
"Is the ennui still running rampant as normal?"
>"Of course. I think we'd go mad if we weren't capable of drifting off into a mental lull. That's enough from work, though, unless you want to explore a new angle of it. The science team committee is arguing about the practical results involving a theory of double-contact between two cubes that are 88% compatible and up."
"No. They've long since exceeded my knowledge. I'm no longer smart enough to keep up with our proper scientists, and whatever their explanation is for how two cubes can touch each other twice non-consecutively."
>"Something about anti-matter, probably."
"Who knows."
>"We don't."
"Yeah."
>"You know I made you promise to try to relax, but if you don't really want to, you don't have to. I think that Glitcher is coming to a decision on, well, to quote him, 'something I don't want to share yet until Rulekeeper and I are sure this is what we're going to try to do even if no one likes the idea.' So even though I know you're not good at relaxing when you're trying to relax, this may your last chance to do it."
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No. 795180 ID: 51649e

Well, since she's here, you might as well tell her you were wondering about the possibility of her getting another body from Glitcher, to keep you company and help you relax.

Though, thinking of it now, you could also do that yourself. It'd be at least a little something new to get to grips with for a few minutes, right? Maybe more than two of you even, get some practice being a hive mind? Or maybe use one to mess around with any experiments or alterations on/with yourself you were reluctant about before? Disguise one of them and go out pretending to be an alternate self for a while? Sweatermouse seemed to find it pretty liberating, walking around as a "different person" with a different attitude and manner, while having another self to serve as a protective alibi and contrast with. Maybe if you're getting a bit tired of being you, pretending to be someone else for a while, interacting with people fresh with no repercussions to their opinion of the real you and less reputation preceding you, will do you well.
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No. 795181 ID: 398fe1

>>795179
Have you tried taking a bath? In zero gravity? Popping bubble wrap? Breaking things-- like tearing up sheets of paper or smashing watermelons or killing a bunch of mindless constructs or whatever? There's target shooting or skeet shooting.

But yeah if you can't relax and feel more at home by working it may be time to just give up on it and get back to work.
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No. 795182 ID: 91ee5f

>>795179
Why don't you go to a spa or something? Maybe get a nice relaxing massage? .....get a pedicure with Succubus?
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No. 795185 ID: bfb318
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795185

"Idea."
>"Listening."
"We create our own murdermouses."
>"You want to wrestle insecure but well meaning mice?"
"I mean our own alter egos."
>"I know, and I'm kidding. I think Glitcher will be okay with things like that now that he tested it with Sweatermouse. To half work and half relax, right?"
"Yes."
>"Where do you want to go?"
"Options?"
>"Anywhere. Literally anywhere you could think of."
"Bath? Spa? Massage?"
>"Sure."
"Target shooting?"
>"Absolutely."
"A china shop to wreck things in?"
>"Anything, Chief."
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No. 795186 ID: 595d54

Target shooting in a china shop while in a claw bathtub.
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No. 795187 ID: 211d83

>>795186

A surreal hedonistic romp as a alternate you could be a blast.
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No. 795188 ID: a363ac

>>795185
shoot people going down the road with Alison x Sevener t-Shirts
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No. 795189 ID: 91ee5f

Actually, wasn't Sevener vs Radmin broadcast live to everyone? Did Chief happen to see it? If he did, then I'd like to hear his thoughts on what happened and if he knows what happened after Sevener left and Haydi said she'd put on Sevener's mask and fight Radmin herself.

If he didn't see that, then I wonder how long it's going to take for him to here rumor about what happened?
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No. 795191 ID: 3abd97

>"... I guess that's a complement? Calling me grease isn't really..."
Come on Succubus, you passed on really easy innuendo, there.

>>795185
Start a small time criminal enterprise. A gang. Go back to your roots, for the harmless entertainment of it. Be destructive and cheating because you can and there's no long term consequences for it.

Start a mini-mafia in a post-scarcity virtual environment where it's completely unnecessary.
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No. 795194 ID: 87547f

>>795191

Yes become a criminal mastermind.
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No. 795198 ID: bfb318
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795198

>Succubus passed on really easy innuendo
After decades of receiving absolutely no reaction, even Succubus gave up on sliding innuendo into all conversations with Chief.

"You know how much I relived the old days."
>"Chief..."
"Let's make new old days."
>"What?"
"Let's start a gang."
>"Haha. You're serious?"
"And how. We're in a post-scarcity society. Let's not act like it."
>"You're the chief. What's the plan?"
"We go to a china shop. The place that sells fancy things no one needs for arcade tickets or whatever. And we get protection money."
>"Let's do it."

We run down the building and into the local shop I have in mind.

"Good day, you two!" says a generic AI shopkeep whos existence of a thinking mind is debatable. "How may I help you today?"
"Hey. Nice place you got."
"Thank you kindly!"
"What kind of protection does it have?"
"Protection? I'm afraid I don't follow. We only serve in china, and we do have nice tables in the back."
"Interesting. But there's a lot of people out there. Some of them might harbor an irrational hatred of china. Or perhaps a bull, perhaps, to give a certain idiom some literal meaning."
"How dreadful!"
"We offer protection. In arcade tickets. Against those bulls of society."
"Haha, oh, dear, I never thought of such things, but I just cannot imagine a bull coming in here! I'm sorry, I am not authorized to purchase such services."
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No. 795200 ID: a363ac

>>795198
Push over a couple of display items show 'em you mean busyness
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No. 795201 ID: 398fe1

>>795198
Grab a plate and smash it. "Oh no, it's a bull." Smash another one "If only you had purchased our protection, we could do something about this!"

Or maybe Succubus can do the smashing. Or both of you.
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No. 795202 ID: 3abd97

>>795198
Give Succubus a look, and have her 'accidentally' knock over something with her tail. (While posing innocently).

"Oh, no, that is unfortunate."

Gotta escalate this at the right pace. Start off pretending we're not shacking them down.
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No. 795203 ID: 51649e

You seem to have skipped the step of getting doubles or getting disguised as different versions of yourselves.

Though, you could express your regret and leave, then get the doubles, and have THEM be the sort of villains that this shopkeeper needs protection from.
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No. 795206 ID: bfb318
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795206

Chief gives Succubus a look that hasn't been used in ages, but she still knows the meaning of.

A plate is knocked over.

"Oh no. That's unfortunate."
"Ah! Do not worry, accidents happen." says the shop keeper. "I will clean that up." he says, running to scoop up the pieces.

Succubus drops another plate onto him.

"Ah! Please be more careful."

>"Sorry!" she says, prepping a third plate.

Chief might not even care enough to back off now and get body doubles to really thrash the place, but getting body doubles would be an easy thing to do.
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No. 795208 ID: 51649e

I think getting some doubles would probably help you cut loose and get into character more. Sort of help you mentally disassociate from what's become habit to you by now, you know?
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No. 795209 ID: 91ee5f

>>795205
Keep this up and Sevener will go back to being a cop like she was in the CAI Belenosian world and start chasing you down!

.....which wouldn't be that bad of an outcome. Gives Sevener something to do and let's Cheif experience the thrill of the chase! Yeah, we could play cops and robbers with Sevener, but not tell her it's a game, so that she'll chase us!
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No. 795219 ID: bfb318
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795219

"Well, we'd better go." Chief says, and gives the shopkeeper his number in case he changes his mind.

His words are spoken approximately 10 minutes before a bullman comes into the shop and starts throwing and punching the contents of the shelves all over the shop. Not one of the robots that Chief ever learned to drive was a quadruped, and he did not feel like learning one now.
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No. 795220 ID: bfb318
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795220

By the time that Chief returns to his normal form, Succubus is on the phone.

>"5000? That's not much, that's half of a day at the arcade from the average player. A day?... Oh, no, that won't do! I could hear the tragedy from down there! How much damage did he do? That much?.... Yes, I know per day will add up, but that applies to our time, as well! Yes, it's bad, but what's stopping that bull from coming back tomorrow? Did he have a tough time, or could he go to his friends and share how easy it was? Imagine if it was every day! We'd be asking for someone to keep watch 24 hours a day, how can we do that when they could make more per day at the arcade, having fun? To ask for one of us to do something dangerous like stopping someone like that? How much would you ask? No, dear, don't sell yourself so short. 15,000 tickets per day!...mhm...mhm... Alright, I'll text you our ticket account number. Be sure to pay on time, every day!"

She hangs up, and gives Chief the thumbs up.
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No. 795221 ID: a363ac

>>795220
now that you are an established Crime lord you need an enemy to hide your crime activities from. who do Chief know that has the greatest sense of JUSTICE?
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No. 795224 ID: a43366

You should start thinking about infrastructure. You cant recruit impressionable peons to ne foot soldiers without something to dazzle them with luke a super opulent den or something.
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No. 795230 ID: 398fe1

>>795220
I'm sure you can set up an Operator or something to stand around by the china shop now. I mean nobody is actually going to stand around doing nothing for any amount of tickets. Unless they like doing that???

Hmm, maybe you should start spraypainting tags on your "turf" as you expand your racket. (if you expand your racket)

Or you could just stop here and spend some of your ill gotten gains on a massage.
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No. 795235 ID: 91ee5f

>>795221
Undyne Sevener has a great sense of justice!
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No. 795271 ID: 4175e3

>>795224
We need a place that's like a cross between a speakeasy and a casino.
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No. 795300 ID: 3abd97

>>795220
Excellent, my dear.

>>795271
Yes, we need a hideout.

Chief probably needs to find a mobster hat or something, too. We're playing a role, costumes are part of that.
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No. 795665 ID: 5f10ec

we are going to run a mafia, but you can't have a mafia without gangsters. So we need to get all your old buds working together again. Also try not to get your army held hostage this time around.
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No. 795680 ID: 91ee5f

>>795665
We can't! They've been strong-armed into joining Mafia Alison and her gang from the mafia cycle!
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No. 796184 ID: 15a025

>>795680
Guess we're gonna have to start a gang war with Mafia Alison to get our old buds back on our side then.
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No. 796472 ID: bfb318
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796472

"Excellent. Find someone who likes to get tickets but doesn't enjoy the arcade, and give them a guard post overlooking the china shop. Speaking of which, we need a place of operations. Hm, who can we trust though? Dumb question. I already had a gang, once."
>"Yes. Most of them went to Alison's side after you died, but the situation has changed, I'm sure all of them have been brought back into town, and I'm sure they're itching for some activity."
"If Alison calls them back then there may be trouble, but it's far better than random contestants. Unlike before, the current contestants want for nothing - I have little leverage with them. Call up our old friends then, Succubus, be sure to vet them some first. It's been a long time since any of them worked for me. We'll need a base of operations."

>They're under Mafia Alison now.
You neither learned, recalled, or accepted any of this. If that's somehow the case - and if this Mafia Alison even exists outside of people overactive imaginations - then the Succubus will just have to pull them back.

>"Under the arcade, maybe?"
"It's likely teeming with people already. We need a place that isn't all too inconvenient, but doesn't see much foot traffic. Because there are only a handful of attractions, we may need to make our own. Radmin proved it was possible to steal arcade pieces. I believe we will be able to create our own attraction. Perhaps our own casino for tickets, along with some of the other amenities the town has to offer. As for now, I'll get Gnoll and Scruff back - both were rambuctious fellows and would love this sort of thing, and I intend on taking the rest of the block."
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No. 796473 ID: bfb318
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796473

Most shops have only a small amount of shoppers, and they're hit for protection money as discreetly as possible. As Succubus vets people, she sends them immediately to Chief to assist. Eventually, the shops with higher shoppers are hit by having Chief and company all enter the shop at once, and be loud, obnoxious, and heckle the shoppers seemingly meaninglessly. Once they are driven out, the shop keepers are shown why protection is important, and they pay up.
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No. 796474 ID: bfb318
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796474

The gang is given their cuts of tickets, and Chief starts spraypainting the sides of buildings.

>"Sheesh, boss, isn't that a little simple?" asks Gnoll.
"The important thing is that it is recognizeable and easy to remember. Plus, we will be painting and re-painting this on numerous buildings - it will be an unnecessary pain to have to paint an hour long masterpiece on every place we tag."
>"Tell us we're doing more than pushing shopkeeps around, Chief." says Atlas. "It'll get boring, if this is all we do."
"You all worry to much. We're done with shops, at least for today. Of course, a couple of you will be needed to 'guard' the area, with good pay per hour of course. Sort the details with Succubus if you'd like the job - but for everyone else, we need capital, and a good base. We need tradesmen - people who can build things, people who can design store fronts, perhaps some low level management skills. And this is for honest work, mind you, so don't act like there's something nefarious going on, because there isn't! If you know someone, go grab them. If you don't, and you don't want to guard the block, then follow me."
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No. 796475 ID: bfb318
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796475

Details are sorted out. More people are found. Chief's enterprise is expanding more rapidly than he feels might be ideally stable, but this is the time to push things. Chief chooses a building on the other, darker side of town, over looking the bay. A few busses are acquired to drive people to and from the main festive areas. They are given paint jobs to stand out, to help advertise that there is a new location of interest on the other side of town.

A mere handful of hours pass before a modest collection of arcade cabinets and games are built or acquired. Building seems somewhat abstracted, and does not take long at all for a few dedicated constructors to make a good store front. Over the last couple of days, many people have had the ideas to create their own businesses crafting things like games or food and so on, and Chief offers them their own store and advertising in which to deal it out so they can focus on the craft. Deals are made quickly and loosely to make up for the time that Chief lost by not doing this right at the start of the town's population boom. Before he knows it, he's already got his own office with a surveillance network set up.

Chief's phone rings non-stop until he begins handing out the management work to others. It has been ages, Chief has felt, since he's been at the top of a chain and managing managers, rather than managing himself. Succubus gives him yet another call while he oversees the light installations at the top of the building, so that it's impossible to miss.

>"Hey, the shopkeeper's at the front desk, complaining about shop mistreatment."
"Which shopkeeper, Succubus?"
>"The shopkeep. The cute cat collective."
"The one with the turtleneck?"
>"Are there multiple cute cat collectives?"
"You never know. Turtleneck?"
>"Yes - wait, you mean the clothing, right? Not some kind of cat-turtle?"
"The clothing, yes."
>"Then yes. The CCC with a turtleneck sweater is here, complaining about shop mistreatment."
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No. 796477 ID: 398fe1

>>796475
Alright, let him in. I wasn't aware we were stepping on his toes, unless he's in charge of all the NPC shopkeeps. Even then, it's not like the NPCs have a limited number of tickets, right? What is the problem, exactly?
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No. 796479 ID: 211d83

You built a trap door over a shark tank in the chair he will be sitting in right? If not get one made quick.

Then invite Mr Shopkeeper in for a chat.
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No. 796480 ID: c8b031

Send him up, of course. Courtesy is our watchword. One of them, anyway.
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No. 796481 ID: 3d2d5f

>cute cat collective
Is he even a cat? Such things have always been a mystery.

Very well. Send him in. Clearly, I share his concerns over shopekeeper mistreatment, which is why I've been working so hard to offer protection.
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No. 796484 ID: bfb318
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"Very well. Send him in."

He arrives.

>Is he even a cat?
Triangle ears, whiskers, has a tail. He's as much of a cat as Chief has ever seen.

>"Uh hey Chief."
"Hello."
>"It's been awhile."
"Yep."
>"I hear you've, uh, been hassling the shopkeepers and charging them for protection?"
"Yes? By the way, are you in charge of the NPC shopkeeps? I was not aware you had a stake in all of this."
>"I don't know about 'in charge' but I do represent them at least so, you know, here I am, asking about your protection. Specifically, why it looks like they're paying you to protect themselves from you?"
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No. 796487 ID: 3d2d5f

>Triangle ears, whiskers, has a tail. He's as much of a cat as Chief has ever seen.
I think Catblob was closer, actually. He (?) had the :3 face, too.

>Specifically, why it looks like they're paying you to protect themselves from you?
Yes, you've grasped the fundamentals of a protection racket. It follows a basic economic principle- create demand for a product you can supply.

If you represent the shop owners en mass, would you be interested in cutting large scale deal? I could offer you a bulk discount for the time and effort saved.
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No. 796491 ID: 211d83

Whatever gave you that silly idea?

Then proceed to illustrate (with circular logic) how you are in fact protecting the shopkeepers from any irritations they might face while running there fine shops.

And if it looks otherwise its only because sometimes its easier to show them a example of what could happen instead of spending all day explaining things.

Then look thoughtful for a bit and come up with a brilliant idea! If he represents all the shopkeepers he can hire you directly to help protect his brethren. Instead of this peace meal system we have right now.

If he gives you any guff have one of your enforcers snuggle him until he gets confused and leaves.
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No. 796496 ID: 4546ab

Wait don't we want him to be working against us? Working out a deal with him sounds boring.

What we should be doing is telling him yes we are shaking down his stores and there is nothing he can do about it. Then have him tossed out while you laugh and wait for him to fight back.
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No. 796501 ID: 398fe1

>>796484
Yep. It's a crime thing. It's in your nature to be a crimelord so you're going back to your roots, even though it's completely unnecessary. Ask him how he's doing with his shopkeeping.
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No. 796511 ID: c8b031

"Because I am. It's called a protection racket. I'm doing it for... oh, all sorts of reasons. Call it an experiment. All you need to know is that I am being a bad man and I encourage people to react to that in whatever way they feel appropriate. To which, of course, I will react as I see appropriate, and so on and so forth. Speaking of, unless you have something I want to offer, I'm going to have you thrown out of the building now. No hard feelings!"
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No. 796532 ID: a363ac

>>796484
Because its fun duh
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No. 796605 ID: 1c8358

"It was all just a ploy to get you to come visit me so I can take you on a date."
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No. 796672 ID: 9c19ee

>>796484
Curiosity killed the cat, pal. Just pay up, and I guarantee no more trouble.
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No. 796744 ID: 094652

"If they pay me every month, I have an incentive to keep their business alive. If they don't pay me every month, I shoot their stores for fun FIRST."
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No. 797543 ID: 15a025

We're bored and wanted to make things a little more interesting around here.
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No. 797817 ID: bfb318
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"That's right."
>"That's... not good? They never needed protection."
"That's why it's called a racket."
>"So wait, you're admitting you're doing, you know... crime?"
"Yes."
>"And you're okay with it?"
"More than okay. I'm feeling a spark of life I haven't felt in a long time."
>"... congratulations but it's not a good reason?"
"Want to buy some?"
>"What?"
"Protection. I can offer bulk deals if you sell me whole blocks?"
>"No!"
"Can you actually stop me?"
>"I can't stop you, but I can stop me from buying bad deals."
"Then I guess I'm just going to have to pay those shops visits, too."
>"... a bulk deal, you say?"
"Yes. Interested?"
>"... I guess on behalf of all the poor shopkeeps, yeah. You know that not everyone's going to be a pushover, right? You might be doing this for fun and games, but there's people who will fight your crime for fun, games, and because it's right."
"See, Shopkeep, I'm counting on that. On the edge of my seat, in fact, to see who gets to be my adversary. I'll admit it, though, I'm glad it wasn't you."
>"Oh thanks I think?"
"I'll send you back to Succubus, and the details can be sorted out."
>"I guess!"
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No. 797818 ID: bfb318
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Chief reviews his current resources, before some of his undercover scouts send back a report about possible adversaries.

A small gang is also starting to force shops to give protection money, but more on the outer rim of where shops are, farther away from Chief's main blocks.

Inside of Chief's blocks, a few people have expressed outrage and dismay over Chief's actions. Rumors say that he's effectively taken over shops, and others simply dislike the practice. Either way, more people are getting the idea that that's even possible, while others say that they would fight anyone who would thrash a shop for personal gain. The former will create competition, and the latter is the first step in the formation of an organization that will fight Chief directly.
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No. 797822 ID: c8b031

Well, obviously we can't have competition! Or, at least, we can't have competition that we don't respect. Find out who these goons think they are!

We can deal with the others once they've organized themselves some more.
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No. 797825 ID: a43366

Adversity will make the eventual competition tougher. This is also a great time to get some spies into your future enemies camps.
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No. 797826 ID: a43366

Adversity will make the eventual competition tougher. This is also a great time to get some spies into your future enemies camps.
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No. 797828 ID: 26f38d

>>797818
Thrash the upstarts. Maintain a monopoly, get good PR.
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No. 797847 ID: 3abd97

>>797817
>blackmailing Shopkeeper to his face
Pffffff.

>>797818
Assimilate or drive out your illegal competition. (Also try to maintain the tone- we don't want to let anyone who would make this too dark get a hold on power).

This necessarily means you'll be letting lawmen or vigilantes grow, but matching wits with them will be fun.
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No. 797848 ID: 3abd97

>>797826
You (or Succubus) should definitely plant sleeper agents in your opposition, though. Not even spies (well, those too) but people who will stay above board until the minute you decide it's time they betray the white hats for you.
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No. 798029 ID: bfb318
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Chief does not have too many exceptionally loyal agents that aren't also well known. It's an easily solveable problem, however. Scruff, Mouse, Tri-head and others are simply told to swap forms and attempt to insert themselves into the opposition. If the opposition has no experience with this sort of thing, and they are attempting to expand nearly fast enough to rival Chief, then they will scoop up anyone with a passing interest.

Some hours pass. A couple of Chief's agents are even sent to 'spy' on Chief, and mis-information is spread back, but not so blatantly incorrect as to cast suspicion on the agents. A spy may report that Chief will hit a rival's headquarters. Instead, Chief will show up, but he will press the rival to assimilate into his own operation. Another spy may report that a group of Chief's are expanding into another block, when in fact it's some of Chief's lesser-trusted employees that are planning on skimming off the top.

It's a boat expanding into something that's difficult to keep extra tight, but it's stable enough. Some rivals do assimilate, and over the course of a day, Chief has a large influx of market share. He could call it a monopoly, but there are still many NPC owned businesses, especially around the stadium.
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No. 798030 ID: bfb318
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The next day, Chief has a small council of upper management that will begin having daily meetings to check on people's progress and projected incomes. Chief keeps each person's talks about what they have, what they need, and what they're getting, before moving onto the next. So far, rival competition seems to be people in over their heads who are so destitute of creativity that they only thought to enter a life of crime after Chief produced the idea for them. He will research them and get to know them. The ambitious ones, he'll crush. The ones who just want a quick income, he'll let run wild and assimilate them after they do a sizeable amount of work for Chief first.

At this rate, Chief would think that there really will be no one who will stop him from taking over the town, if not for Atlas. He fidgets and squirms in his seat as though undergoing an emergency. Optimally, Chief would go to him first, but instead, he draws it out like the best morsel of food that he wishes to save for last.

Finally, Chief grants him the signal to speak his piece.

>"Okay I've been expanding towards the stadium and things were going fine up until the middle of last night, when a group of golden hearts started defending the shops and telling them they don't need to pay protection anymore, as they'll do it for free."
"Self proclaimed champions of the market aren't new, you've done admirably in roughing many up. What is different, now?" Chief asks, fully expecting a single answer."
>"These ones seemed to be backed by someone with organizational skills."
"A leader."
>"Yeah. It's not clear who's leading them, but signs are pointing towards Guitar Knight, who's at least involved. Either way, I've lost half a block. I need more ruffians, or we're going to get pushed back out."

Atlas already has prime choice of people willing to fight, mostly would-be wrestlers who get pumped up after watching some administrator beat up another. To send him more would slow down expanse outward into town. At the same time, the stadium and the surrounding businesses have 80% of the economy, and Chief has only tapped into the outskirts of that through Atlas, who is apparently already getting pushed back out. At the inner stadium region, there are real NPC guards in places like the pizza arcade and sensory testing station, and Chief would need a small army to take over those places.
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No. 798031 ID: a363ac

>>798030
Then its time to become the Godfather and get a small army to deal with these upstart "Protectors of the market"
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No. 798040 ID: 398fe1

>>798030
Wait how are we roughing up actual contestants? Isn't this area a safe zone? Or is "roughing up" tantamount to injuryless scuffles and an eventual teleportation away?

Don't even try to take over the NPC-guarded shops. Give Rulekeep that respect. You can afford to slow down anyway, you've got nothing but time! Let's get some more muscle on the streets, see how good a fight these heroes can put up.
Well, maybe at some point you should talk to Rulekeep about the NPC guards. If she knows you mean no disrespect by it, you can stage a raid against one of those stores to test the strength of your forces. Bragging rights!
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No. 798042 ID: a43366

This us probably a good time to start seeding some corruption into the Stadium to soften them up so you can worm your way in. A spy to get info on the dogooders and find weak spots to probe would be good too.

You should also spend some time reflecting on how you lost last time you were on top due to overconfidence and lack of bred personal loyalty in your troops. Rectifying this now might mean a lucky break isnt enough to topple you this time. Your organization is bigger now though so breeding loyalty and pride in the organization or their immediate bosses might be easier than you yourself. Maybe seed the idea that being part of the organization makes rhem 'higher' than others, though that could backfire and make you and your gang unlikeable to the public.

Also did you ever manage to find and meet up with your first partner who died?
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No. 798044 ID: 547d10

>Frontal assault
Not a good strategy. Politically, fighting vigilantes in high-profile will get the heat on your syndicate fast. Play it safe, play with your strengths; whatever businesses you own, use them. The bakery shop? Offer to lower prices if they refuse to sell to vigilantes and vigilante sympathizers. The press? Do a long interview about the last time a vigilante put the hurt on your supporter so bad, they had to win two resurrection trials and still landed in a hospital. If you have a theater, write up propaganda making the syndicate look cool and the vigilantes look corrupt.

Refuse to play their game, and you can starve them out.
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No. 798053 ID: 398fe1

I know you're on vacation, but... if the RS "echoes" all activity, wouldn't that mean there's an identical simulation in that echo? Their perception of the RS would even be identical to yours, because the activity is self-referential, right? Well, it's either that or the echo is how the RS looks at(and verifies?) its own data, which allows contestants and glitchers to even be able to perceive the mechanisms that simulate them.

Or, heck, maybe the "echo" is an indication that the RS you're seeing isn't the real RS at all. It could be a copy of the RS that's there only to allow realtime modification of it(usually by an outside force, not an internal force like you guys). The "main" RS would send simulation data to the one you can see, which is part of the simulation. The "main" RS wouldn't be part of the simulation and so it wouldn't have an infinite recursion issue of looking at itself looking at itself etc(or is that even a problem?). Yet any changes to the projected RS must be implemented in the "main" RS, right? The "echo" could then be the main RS running the simulation off the projected RS. Does the RS ever seem to analyze the echo data and do error checking or corrections or anything? Is there ever a difference between the echo and the original?
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No. 798083 ID: 3d2d5f

Chief, you're technically a white hat too, in your official capacity, even if you went black hat again now for a lark. Could you organize / sponsor your own hero team from the other side? There would be a lot of ways you could use that to muddy the waters or play forces against each other. (Who do we know who would be good for a grey hero team?).

Instead of throwing manpower at the heroes (which just gives them good PR, really) maybe something more subtle? Create a problem somewhere else. Deliberately tank some territory, create a high profile slum away from the stadium that will draw their focus away, allowing you to get your claws in quietly. (This diversion could be accomplished by letting up pressure on, or offering covert support, to one of your short sighted and unimaginative criminal rivals).
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No. 798128 ID: 0b99d7

>>798030
He might not be this new leader of the opposition but put out feelers to see what Bandit is up to nowadays.

I'm sure you upsetting the equality of business and his recent lack of opportunities to act on that little personality quirk will have him robbing you before long.

Wouldn't be the first time after all.
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No. 798366 ID: bfb318
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>Is "roughing up" tantamount to injuryless scuffles and an eventual teleportation away?
This is correct. This makes it easy for Chief to keep things relatively light, as the farthest Gnoll, Atlas, or whoever can go is painlessly pushing someone around before either they teleport back to a safe spot, or the situation de-escalates on its own.

>Don't even try to take over the NPC-guarded shops. Give Rulekeep that respect.
Chief knows Rulekeep well, and that she creates scenarios specifically to interact with contestants in a natural way. If she honestly wanted the core NPC shops and their guards to be insurmountable, she would have made them insurmountable.

>Also did you ever manage to find and meet up with your first partner who died?
This was done a lifetime ago. Perhaps Chief will catch up, again.

>RS echoes
There are several hypothesese and theories regarding this, each as outlandish as the next. In recent years, there seems to be a credence that the 'echo' of the RS may be as legitimate as the RS itself, as the 'echo' does seem to bounce back and influence the RS in some ways.

Much of it has gone beyond Chief's understanding. He simply knows that various teams all have their own models that seem just as well founded, true, and useful as all of the others. That these theories can seem to both predict RS behavior while frequently contradicting one another is a constant source of madness and confusion. Which is good; the worst scenario would be if no one cared.

>What Bandit is up to
Chief is already aware that Bandit is participating in Rulekeep's society in the Sanctuary. Chief's gang actions here were almost spur of the moment, but if he were to re-do it, he would have considered going there, as it's a society of equal size in which Chief's actions would not throw people so off guard.

Ideally, Chief could give off good PR and make himself out to be a hero. His finances are looking good, even if not optimal due to the fast, rocky expansion occurring. He could have donations, various public events, and so on. He could make being part of the organization seem like being 'above' the rest by doing things like giving regular patrons coupons to shop he owns. To avoid being disliked by the general public for it, he'll make sure that getting those privileges are publically attainable, seemingly fairly, though the details will have to have the nuances smoothed over. Then there is charity. He will give people free food and gifts and so on, making raffle prizes to people who clean up streets and so on to assist the NPCs. Then when some heroes go and thrash up some minions, Chief can declare that they hate charity and cleanliness. He can't do too much charity, though, otherwise he will really be the hero, even if a flawed one.

What he can also do is fund his own hero's organization from the shadows. It will have to be a secret from all but his most trusted individuals. Ideally, not even the organization itself would know that Chief is funding it, although that may depend on who's at the top. And who that is, is the primary question. King? He had a sense of justice, and it would not surprise you to see him get involved regardless. Alison? As tempting as he finds it to have a rematch of wits, Alison is heavily involved with the glitcher family, and in ways, has risen above the public eye. She's a half deity at this point, and having her slithering around mortal games may be unbecoming. Perhaps Radmin, even, as though not a hero himself, he's likely looking for a way to regain popular opinion - his last stunt was a flop, even if Haydi salvaged much of it.
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No. 798368 ID: 91ee5f

>>798366
Actually, now that I think about it, maybe these "heroes" are from a newly formed rival gang? In fact, couldn't they be some of Corruptor's old house leaders? Other than Alison and Arbiter. Who were those guys again?

>Radmin's last stunt was a flop, even if Haydi salvaged much of it.
Oh, you caught that? Who ended up winning that match, Radmin or Haydi?
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No. 798369 ID: 3abd97

I like the idea of a shadow hero team more than casting yourself as a hero. You were already a respected good guy here, recovering face and convincing people you were just having a lark would be too easy. The whole point of this game is to play the black hat for a little while.

Funding a hero team you puppet doesn't get the other heroes off your back immediately, though. You still need a criminal distraction or something similar to open up where you want to expand.

>who put on hero team
None of these candidates seem good for it. Alison is too high profile, has her own agenda, and is either taking a much needed break or involved in figure out the simulation and survive stuff. Radmin is too big a personality, and can't possibly be controlled. King has sorta-known connections to you, via Pepper (though you could frame some kind of fake falling out or rivalry over that).

Guardsman might make a good hero. An excuse to beat stuff up, and he probably wouldn't care if he was secretly working for the baddies or the sides flipped in the middle. Not leader material, though.

...his involvement would probably bring Scanner, too, to keep him out of trouble. She's actually clever, and a reasonable choice for the actual running of things, trying to figure things out, and match wits.

Also, both have the respectability of being inner circle Alison allies, without being too big names to be problematic.

Should be a 4 man band or so. Could let them recruit their own allies, or find them for them. (Bring back some other old faces? Clarence, Sword, Catblob?).

>no one should know
Succubus should at least be in on your plans. She's your most trusted friend and right hand gal by this point.
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No. 798372 ID: a3cd80

Lets make sure our possible rival can handle some resistance before we start using our best tricks otherwise we might have a hero that falls short. Lets groom the hero in secret to make sure they're up to the task if they aren't already.

Also consider the possibility that your rival may not even be someone you know, it's pretty late into the cycle but some random contestant may have risen to the occasion. Not a bad thing, just means we wont know exactly what to expect if that's the case.
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No. 798433 ID: bfb318
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>Who ended up winning that match, Radmin or Haydi?
Haydi ended up with 10 star stats. Radmin spammed the enforcer summoning ability to halt Haydi. Haydi still managed to beat down the enforcers, but not before Radmin made his escape by leaping out of the building, using Sweatermouse to break the fall.

"Atlas, I will slightly reinforce your numbers, but not too greatly, as I will call off the advance. Attempt to regain the block, but no more. Simply guard your assets. Let's test the mettle of these market champions and see if they're resilient, or just find the idea novel. I will send more spies, too." For all Chief knows, this gang of champions is a rival gang presenting themselves as heroes.

>Succubus should at least be in on Chief's plans.
She will be. Her, and Pepper if she needs to know. In general, Succubus is Chief's partner moreso than Pepper, but only due to Chief's respect of Succubus' judgement, her ability at management, and mental care for Chief. She is more loyal than Chief could ever hope for, yet he knows that Pepper is even more dedicated. The Succubus is her own person, with her own judgements, however much Chief respects them. If she were to betray Chief, in this scenario, Chief expects that it would be in good taste and even in Chief's best judgement. He would even encourage her to betray him, if she felt it best.

Pepper is a different story. Although Chief has spent longer with Succubus, that time has been that of teammates in peaceable times in good mental health. The time spent with Pepper was time spent surviving the mental and physical decay of the inside and outside respectively. Pepper and Chief were each other's pillars, and they had to be infallible in this regard. Courteous, good company, and trust each other more than oneself, at every single instant in time. Anything less, and both would break. Despite stage 7 being so long ago, that relationship has not deteriorated.

The thought of Pepper being anything but the epitome of loyalty is inconceivable to Chief, now. Chief expects that Pepper feels the same way. In much the same way that Succubus is still Chief's main partner, so to does Pepper engage and support King's activity. Yet if Pepper had to choose between King and Chief, and if Chief had to choose between Succubus and Pepper, then on the matters of these games, they would choose each other with such dedication that it would only look like a choice from the outside. To them, the choice would be invisible.

Thankfully, Chief has never had to make this choice, but this blind loyalty to each other overrides any sense of objectivity either one normally would have. This is why Pepper's activity in the RS is typically far removed from anything Chief has to do with, as much as possible.

Both King and Succubus are aware of the relationship between Pepper and Chief. Even if they weren't told it explicitly, this sort of relationship is not unique. Not everyone had their own pillar, but many who had to last centuries did. Halley and Cruncher were another example alongside Pepper and Chief. Felix, Loviro and Sevener each had a belenos refuge as their pillar. Timekeeper and Goat would have been the same, Chief is sure, if not for Jiro's crime. Even Succubus would have had such a relationship, but she, among others, opted to have a personality reset, negating that sort of relationship. If she did not, she most likely would have pressed for an earlier resurrection at the cost of someone in Alison's core team, and Chief would have to make sure his business is far removed from this friend. This, Succubus eventually said, is the reason why she opted for a personality reset, simply because she didn't want a relationship like that to get in the way of the more practical things in life.

This move, Chief believes, is symbolic of why he will never receive a better partner than Succubus. Stage 7, Area 3, is why Chief will never have a more loyal friend than Pepper.

>Scanner
Chief likes the idea of Scanner. She has initiative, can take charge even if she isn't a natural born leader, and isn't the epitome of justice. She does not even have to be kept in the dark; guardsman only cares for a fight, and Scanner has a sense of fun and games. She can keep secrets, even from guardsman and people she considers on her side.

>Employ Scanner for shadow hero team y/n?
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No. 798439 ID: 0778ca

>>798433
Jiro's crime? Do you mean fake-QZ?
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No. 798455 ID: a43366

y.
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No. 798457 ID: 3abd97

That's a hell of a lot more nuanced insight into Chief's relationships than I was expecting, but that's very interesting.

>Employ Scanner for shadow hero team y/n?
Yes, this can only end well. Running a shadow hero team by proxy and the underworld at the same time will be immensely entertaining. Scanner's sharp enough to have fun with a double agent role.

Another idea: if we ever need a one-time bout of chaos or distraction for criminal stuff? Call in a favor with Sweatermouse, and contract Murdermouse as an independent villain to go on a bombing spree. You can probably call that card, once, since she came to you and Succubus for advise.
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No. 798458 ID: 211d83

Ok you need to track down Timekeeper and Goat and make sure they had a happy ending.

Oh and Scanner would work great.
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No. 798459 ID: 87547f

Yeah before anything go check on Goat and Timekeeper. If they are not living together in cute fashion you need to fix that.
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No. 798590 ID: bfb318
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>Jiro's crime? Do you mean fake-QZ?
Chief makes a note to review the past, as he recalls it was not Jiro at all.

Chief continues around the table to make sure everyone has what they need, and that they understand where Chief is coming from, so that they can take initiative on matters while still maintaining Chief's ideologies.

Succubus and Pepper are then kept together as Scanner is contacted. As expected, she is surprised and taken aback by the proposal after some probing by small talk, but like many people, is starting to feel an itch to be more pro-active. All she has done is keep Guardsman from assailing individuals, so she leaps at the opportunity to give him some valid direction, even with questionable ethics.

>Murdermouse spree
Chief will have to remember this favor that Sweatermouse owes. With a proper excuse he can send her on his enemies without suspicion, or 'save' the town from her if he needs a sudden and huge PR boost. Sweatermouse is accomodating enough, though, that he's sure he can call on her more than once if need be.
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No. 798591 ID: bfb318
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Chief himself begins to organize a charitable event to celebreate non-NPC craftsmanship, and so will have prizes and games both created by contestants. Food, of which will be free, will be cooked by Timekeeper and Goat. They were already resurrected, and are found attempting to locate a decent kitchen and supplies. Chief supplies both, and they are more than happy to accept the job. Glitcher resurrected their old notebook along with them, which is a touch that Chief appreciates from Glitcher.

The event itself won't be till several hours based on logistics and timing. It will have to work around a wrestling match, whether or not the event takes place during a match.

A few hours pass, while business continues as normal and the event draws closer. Charles, who Chief still recalls as small lizard, calls.

>"Hey Chief. We got a problem on the south side. Mongrel and some pack of raiders hit up our accessory store. They didn't take it over or anything, just looted the inventory. Sorry, we guarded it and we fought as we could, but by the time we could get reinforcements, they were out of there."

Resurrecting someone like Mongrel was a touch that Chief doesn't appreciate as much.
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No. 798599 ID: 3abd97

>>798590
...I love that we're recruiting people for evil schemes mostly out of boredom.

>>798591
Do we know anything about Mongrel and his gang? Are the competition, do they work for anyone, are they new players or established ones?

Easy solution might be just to leak his location to the heroes. Either your new team makes the collar and establishes themselves, or it distracts the coliseum heroes so you can take more territory.
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No. 798604 ID: 3ce125

>>798591
Maybe we can go steal it back.
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No. 798626 ID: bfb318
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"Did we have anyone follow them?"
>"Uh, no. Should we have?"
"I want to know more of Mongrel's gang of road raiders. Are they rivals, or just marauding for loot? Are they working for someone, or acting independently? I would even like to try and steal our inventory back, but do we even know where they are?"
>"We know they moved pretty far off. They had vehicles."
"Clearly, this won't do. We have to recruit more guards - it will be tough to get protection money from shops when we can't even protect!"

Chief calls up everyone to ensure that the guards are bolstered. Bounties are put up for information regarding Mongrel's hideaway.
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No. 798627 ID: bfb318
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Gnoll's block is hit by Mongrel next. He's able to fend off Mongrel before too much damage is made, though some damages are still incurred. A few of Mongrel's minions are captured, but they simply teleport through safe zone rules.

Chief responds by setting up a perimeter. Lookouts are posted above each building with the specific task of looking out for Mongrel and his group of vehicles. It's a short term solution, Chief thinks. It'll tip off Mongrel's next approach and maybe the one after, but Mongrel isn't that stupid. He'll start gently sending in re-painted trucks and bikes one at a time as though they are just regular drivers, not as a big aggressive gang. Then, inside of Chief's territory, they will reconvene together, hit a store, and then ride out. This is later, however - until Mongrel adapts, Chief has bought time to order construction of deployable road spikes, barriers, and so forth. That way, as Mongrel hits a store, the lookouts will be able to deploy the road barriers to prevent their escape.

Nonetheless, while Mongrel may not be dumb, his motives are not deep. His minions may want money, but Mongrel himself is likely content to just be a criminal jackass. Safe zone rules make it terribly easy to be destructive. He hates to think it, but he may wish to reach out to Mongrel to be prospective allies. Mongrel is not an easy ally, however. Alison herself could not sway him, but that may have simply been that Alison's ideals were virtually the opposite of Mongrel's.

Alternatively, he may wish to contact Rulekeeper to change the safe zones rules a bit. Of course, death with not be re-instated, Chief would not think that. Perhaps, upon safe zone teleportation, or even damage received, one will teleport away, but as a ghost. As a ghost, they will hardly be able to interact with objects, but will still effectively be alive, until they respawn after, say, a day.

Or he could just let someone else deal with the force end of the gang. Chief has a PR event to run and organize.
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No. 798634 ID: 211d83

I think all of this is going to be a nice learning experience for creating a actual society here.

That being said having a meeting with Rulekeeper could be worthwhile.

But consider your last idea more carefully. If damaging someone causes them to teleport and become a ghost what is to stop asshole people from using that aggressively? It would be annoying for random civilians to get murdered here and there and have to wander around as a ghost for awhile.

Maybe instead have a way of temporarily flagging someone as a law/rule breaker. Like something heros/police could do? Then in that flagged state (which might only last a certain while) they could be affected by your damage/ghost idea.

It would keep this sort of stuff contained to the people who actually wanted to participate while letting the uninterested avoid things. Plus would give both criminals and hero's a fun challenge/game. Hero's would have to get good at tagging criminals so they could be knocked out of the game for awhile and Criminals would have to get good at hiding or fighting/escaping the Hero's.

Could even have a way for Criminals to ghost hero's. Like say secret hero weakness's or something silly. So they could temporarily take out a hero with lots of work and get rewarded with a day or two of non interference.
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No. 798637 ID: 3abd97

>>798627
I think if you have to go to Rulekeep to change the rules of the game, you're kind of admitting defeat.

Things that jump to mind immediately are trying to arrange targets for Mongrel (set places without protection up for him, or plant someone in his gang to influence him). Or, we serve him up on a platter for the heroes. It's a game board- you need to set pieces against each other. Or both. If heroes are fighting him away from your territory, then you have two opponents tied up.

(Winning combat here might be to come up with some way to restrain people that doesn't trigger teleportation. Special sticky foam, or something).

I would hesitate to say you know Mongrel's motives- none of us interacted with him much. But if he's in this for the fun of breaking stuff / being a jerk then we can't say, just give him kickbacks to be part of the protection scam. (Scaring people to us, and letting us drive him off).
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No. 798694 ID: f0f32d

Keep the rules as they are for now.

I'd be more interesting in planting a tracking bug on their getaway vehicles.
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No. 798712 ID: c8b031

You know who you need to get for yourself? A detective. Someone to investigate these crimes... that aren't yours. Someone not affiliated with you, but who can be hired to track someone down and find things out about them.
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No. 798845 ID: bfb318
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Chief will skip any rule-changing proposals.

>Bugs on cars
Tracking technology is limited, however, people's tablets themselves have this tech. It has yet to be isolated to parts, but people might be able to slip a tablet into a vehicle unnoticed. He will pass the word around.

>You know who you need to get for yourself? A detective.
This would be nice for Chief, and just as he begins thinking of who, Scanner gives him a call.

>"Hey, found Mongrel's place." she says. The sound of yelling and crashing almost overwhelms Scanner yelling into her phone. "Or at least where all your stuff was hidden. You can come pick up what's not broken after Guardsman sweeps through, since we don't really want it. You might want to hurry up though, I think Guitar Knight got wind of this and is sending people to sweep up for some reason."
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No. 798847 ID: 3abd97

Have a team disguised as ordinary movers sent over to recover what they can of the damaged inventory. If Guitar Hero's team gets there first, they are to drive right past and pretend they're headed somewhere else.

>I think Guitar Knight got wind of this and is sending people to sweep up for some reason.
He's playing hero, you're at least nominally on the same side, Scanner. For now.

GK might suspect something, but for now, Scanner and co shouldn't turn down their help or offer them resistance beyond reasonably friendly rivalry / jockeying for PR.
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No. 798852 ID: bfb318
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Chief invites Succubus to the call.

"Succubus, get a team of people acting like movers onto Scanner's location, she's by all of the stolen goods. Scanner, remember you're theoretically on Guitar Knight's side, or at least have the same goals."

Details are made, and Succubus' task force drives off. Chief remains in contact with Scanner. Unfortunately, perhaps, Guitar Knight bursts in on the scene before the task force gets there.

>"Get outta here admin dorkos!" Guardsman yells as Guitar Knight enters.
>"We're here to return stolen goods to the shop! Stay out of our way!" GK replies right back.
>"You stay out of mine!"
>"Chief, what about our team?" asks Succubus. "They're about to turn the corner, they're just a bit late."
"Have them keep moving, like they're going somewhere else."

This is fine. Not optimal, perhaps, but Chief hopes that this puts a damper on Mongrel's activities.
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No. 798853 ID: bfb318
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Moments pass. Guardsman keeps fighting, somehow evading capture while whacking Mongrel with his sword repeatedly. During that, GK's team, partially made of operators, supervisors, and random contestants, start looting the place.

Chief receives a call from Guitar Knight.

>"Hello, Chief. We've found Mongrel's hideaway, and will be returning the shop's stolen goods. We will be driving through the blocks that you have carved out, wrongly, for yourself. We expect there to be no trouble as we return the goods back to the shops ourselves, understand?"
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No. 798854 ID: 3abd97

>>798851
Of course not. I will see to it no trouble interferes with your noble efforts to aid the shops that I protect. Thank you for your service.

Then have your guys provide GK's team an escort as they go about their deliveries. For protection from trouble.
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No. 798855 ID: 17c2ee

>>798853
Of course not. After all, you understand manners even if he doesn't.
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No. 798858 ID: bfb318
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"Trouble for returning our own goods? Who do you take me for?"
>"A criminal, of course. I won't bullshit you, so don't bullshit me!"
"To each their own opinion, but I understand manners even if you do not. There certainly won't be trouble, in any case. In fact, I will give you an escort, for protection, in case Mongrel attempts to intercept you."
>"That is not necessary, but so long as they don't get in our way, I'll allow it if you insist."

Scanner slips her tablet in her pocket, but leaves the call on as GK approaches her.

>"Scanner, yes?"
>"That's me."
>"BOP HIM." Chief hears Guardsman yell from somewhere else.
>"He's not doing anything, Guardsman!"
>"DO IT."
>"Is he always like this?" asks GK.
>"Yeah, he really is."
>"Well, at least he's on the right side! I'm part of a task force of people who feel that the shop's passiveness has been taken advantage of, namely by Chief, who I thought had turned to the right side."
>"Old habits, I guess." says Scanner.
>"Would you like to join us?"
>"Eh, is there constant action? I kind of have to point Guardsman at things to hit constantly."
>"Absolutely!"
>"We do kind of like being our own people though, rather than an organization."
>"I assure we, we are all individuals with autonomy, who are a team not by some grand order, but by like-minded ideals. Join us, and you may quit at any time if it does not suit you."
>"I'll give it some thought."
>"You know my number!"

Chief busies himself for some minutes, before Scanner pulls her phone out again.

>"Did you get all that, Chief?"
"I did."
>"What do you think? I normally would've joined right off the bat, but I'm fuzzy on what exactly you want out of me."
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No. 798869 ID: 211d83

Honestly this is all just for fun. So if you have a strong preference we can do that.

But I like the idea of you joining him so that we can have a inevitable betrayal later on. Or not.

But working with him will let us keep track of his activities.
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No. 798870 ID: 3abd97

So Scanner's not being asked to join a hero team where she'd be fighting with / working next to GK the whole time like Power Rangers, but something more like an affiliated organization, like the Protectorate.

On the plus side, that gives her legitimacy, as well as access and insight to the group's communications. On the downside, that means she's not running a rival / competing group that could discredit GK by showing them up / outperforming them, and stealing recruits.

It's... probably a net benefit to have them on the inside. If we need to, Scanner could still find ways to undercut GK or lure more members to her side with personal loyalty, so if and when they have to publicly turn on GK they take people with them.

>I'm fuzzy on what exactly you want out of me
"Shadow Hero" is a bit of a vague job description, I'll admit.

Basically, a hero that is secretly in league with evil. Sometimes this will mean you can ask for instructions, but there will probably be times where you will be unable to check in and will have to make your own calls.

Make yourselves look good, crack down on crime while minimizing the damage to my own operations, win loyalty and support of the public and your peers, feed me information, discredit and reduce the influence of those who would work against me (hero and criminal). And possibly publicly break with / betray the other heroes if they get too close to stopping me.

Basically? You're a long term spy and double agent. Challenging, but details and information are your forte. I'm certain you can think of ways to enjoy yourself with this.
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No. 798876 ID: bfb318
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The people that Scanner is in contact with are most likely people suited to helping her with her namesake, rather than people she can call upon as her own hero team.

>"Shadow Hero is vague, I admit. Ultimately, I am having you as a spy and double agent, and clearly, having found Mongrel's base first, you are excellent at information gathering, which I may need more than an external team of heroes. Do as you like, since you know that this is all to create some wants and needs people can pursue. If you join them, then your goal will be to undermine GK as you can without being found out, perhaps getting some 'heroes' loyal to you moreso than the cause, and betray them only if they come too close to stopping me."
>"That makes sense." says Scanner. "I can do that, so I'll join them. If nothing else, I can tip you off now and then. I'm not a natural spy, but I'm popular enough, being one of Alison's old guard, that I don't think they'd suspect..." she trails off, remembering who she's talking too. "Nevermind. I'll join him. Gotta go for now, if I don't pull Guardsman out, he'll never stop hitting Mongrel, and Mongrel will never concede with a teleport."

Chief, too, has other activities. Enough time has passed between the events surrounding Mongrel that the event must be supervised more closely. Succubus is summoned in person, and they get to it.
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No. 798877 ID: bfb318
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The primary theme is to promote contestant based occupations. The event amenities themselves are to showcase the products and services that happen as a result. The food is the best Chief has ever had, at least that he can remember. The cushions on the seats are fluffed, the lights are manufactured to be easy on the eyes, the staff helpful, and so on.

The prizes and event itself isn't particularly imaginative, or to put it more positively, it's safe and inoffensive. It doesn't need to be wildly imaginative, as for most people, it's their first event like this. Raffles are bought with the proceeds going to contestant created stores, which promise to be dynamic and useful to people's wants and needs, rather than prefabricated base NPC stores. Prizes include raw tickets, prime real estate with furnishment, and other goods.

Chief comes the closest he's gotten in a long time to relaxing. The waiter seems to have a knack for this job, and upon noting that to her, she explains that she used to do this all the time in the corrupted sanctuary. Chief does recall that, and that must be the first near-stable society that the contestants ever make each cycle, barring the cliques that form via the passage of stage to safe zone to stage.
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No. 798878 ID: bfb318
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Waiter leaves a third meal in front of Chief and Succubus, but they hardly take a bite apiece before Succubus looks to her left.

>"Don't look now, but we've got an Alison incoming.

Chief looks now, and confirms it. Accompanying her is a different but recognizable Iso and Duelist.

>"Hello, Chief. I'm Alison, as you know." she sticks out her hand, and Chief shakes it. "You can call me whatever you like, though. A different name might suit me better here, since I seem to be a popular target for revival in this cycle."
"Hello, and I'm Chief. You can call me Chief."
>"Mm, Chief, then. You know, if you wanted to make a productive society, you didn't have to thrash shops and all that. Are you actually a bad guy?"

Perhaps Chief has made the strong points too public, and the bad points too subjected to rumor. It was difficult to tell, but looking around, Chief does not feel like the gang leader he envisioned. Not as that is necessarily a bad thing, but at this rate, if he wants to be known as a bad guy, as this Alison so put it, he might just have to send Murdermouse on a bombing run in his name.
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No. 798881 ID: 211d83

"If I was a bad guy would I say I was a bad guy?"

Honestly the gang leader stuff is just a fun diversion. Helping build a proper society so that every Ai can find fulfillment and happiness is the real goal. Even if said happiness is them being a thug running with Mongrel.

Plus people are learning great skills that might eventually be of use if we ever get access to the outside world.

That being said you should still be a secret evil gang leader. Got to rile the pot in the background while having lots of perfectly legitimate cover enterprises.

With any luck this Alison might be a secret mafia boss and we can have fun with her.
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No. 798884 ID: b412df

While you didn't end up being a gang leader, you kinda aimed higher accidentally, I'd say you're more the boss of a organised crime / business than a simple gang. I say work with it, keep a relatively clean public face while manipulating the society you created from the shadows.

Your favour with murder/sweatermouse is your ace in the hole, save if for when you need to cause destruction that'd be hard to trace back to you.
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No. 798888 ID: 3ce125

Be honest.

Being good is boring.
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No. 798889 ID: 3abd97

>"If I was a bad guy would I say I was a bad guy?"
We're a little hampered by our role here, because Chief is a good guy playing a bad guy for fun, but the kind of bad guy we're playing makes as if they were a good guy for plausible deniability / protection from prosecution even if everyone knows it's clearly bullshit.

I'm just a guy trying to do what he can, and enjoy himself in the process. Good, Bad? I suppose that depends on who you ask, or how ruthless I'm feeling.

>he might just have to send Murdermouse on a bombing run in his name.
Nah. If we send her on a bombing run, we don't admit publicly it's us.
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No. 798890 ID: 8ed2bb

So long as you're not seriously hurting people, which isn't allowed anyway or would be undone, you're not really a bad guy. You could probably step it up a bit, but make sure you're still acting within some form of reason. If you send murdermouse on a bombing run then do it to your enemies or rivals or for some purpose.

Anyway, tell her that no-one's qualified to really judge themselves as a good guy or bad guy; that's up to other people. Also, that it's not your business to name people, but if she's looking for suggestions she could take the name "Mamba". As in black mamba? For the snake connection. Or just "Miss Black".

If you want to justify yourself, or just to engage in philosophy for it's own sake or something to talk about or just to look smart, you could chat with her about the idea that people, paradoxically, may need to be unhappy to be happy. As in, people need a bit of strife and conflict, not just for fun but with real personal or emotional stakes at least, and even a little pain, to give their lives direction and energy.
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No. 798896 ID: 15a025

Instead of saying you're a bad guy or not, say that you're doing questionable things with good intentions.
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No. 798898 ID: bfb318
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798898

"Perhaps you're new to this sort of thing, but I can't say unless I know what you've been through, but societies without scarcity have shown themselves to be doomed to stagnation and even malaise. All I am doing is showing that there is more than pizza arcades, wrestling, and so on. If I were seriously hurting anyone, then there are gods in which to smite me down. As for good or bad, well, no one is in a good place to call themselves that, Alison - ah, for a name, how about Mamba, as in Black Mamba?"
>"Black Mamba? It's alright. You can call me that, then, we'll see if it sticks. Hmm. Do you mind?" Mamba gestures to the seat by Chief.
"I do not."

She slithers up. Black Mamba appears as normal and friendly as any Alison, but with her expression, body language, and smooth delivery of words, there's a sultriness that only lost its subtletly by making a gesture of attempting to take a seat with the form she has.

>"I'd like to be partners, Chief. I have a small but effective following. Counterparts to people you know well, like Iso and Duelist, here. Say hello, you two."
>"Hello." says Iso.
>"Hello." Duelist echoes, before Mamba continues.
>"What I'd like is a place to call my own. I like busy areas, but they're all so occupied, and it's difficult to find an unclaimed spot. Let me be forward. Give me territory near your primary casino area, and I'll guard that and the surrounding area myself, since it's to my own benefit as well as yours. That will free up some of your to expand your enterprise. And once we get to know each other, I can also assist in the hour to hour operations of whatever you feel comfortable with. That's even more forward, I know, but if you're anything like my Chief, then you're overworking poor Succubus here."
>"Hey, I don't mind." Succubus says, pointedly avoiding any sort of denial.
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No. 798900 ID: 8ed2bb

She probably wants to try take over your organization. Why go to the trouble of trying to take a slice of the city for herself, when she can slither in alongside whoever has the biggest already and take theirs, with all its organization and resources already in place?

However, that's only a theory. And if it were true, well, in the short term it would be good for you. She'd have an interest in preserving and expanding your domain, right enough. The only trouble is that you'll have to keep a close eye on her. But hey, that's part of the fun, right?

Tell her... you're open to the idea, but you're wary of just trusting part of your protectorate to someone as yet unproven to you. You want her to do something to demonstrate not only her competence and that of her underlings, but also her good will and whether her way of doing things aligns with your standards. Don't tell her what those standards are: that's part of the test, to see if they're in her nature (or she's clever enough to guess). Ask her if she has any ideas for such a task, but also think up one yourself. There should be something she can do, yes?

Also, you need to come up with some standards to have. All the good organized crime groups have some sort of code of honor or something.
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No. 798901 ID: 3abd97

Mmmm. Mamba is a good alias for sultry Alison. In addition to being an allusion to the snake, it's a way of moving.

>offer to work with/for you
Could be useful. Alisons have good people skills, which could be an asset. And she could be the public face for some... pseduo legit operations. A casino, maybe? (A bordello?). Mob run businesses.

We'll have to see if we can really trust her, or if she's planning on making a move against you from the inside, but an ambitious underling / protegee / partner is part of the game, here. Another way to help keep your wits sharp and things interesting.

I think you should accept.
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No. 798902 ID: 211d83

Go with it. This should be fun.
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No. 798904 ID: a3cd80

Ask her what cycle she's from. We can review it later to get a better idea for how she handles things and also confirm her identity.
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No. 798905 ID: bfb318
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"I'd like to accept, but I should also be wary of the Black Mamba asking to nest right under my floorboards and watch over my eggs. I want you to do something to demonstrate your competence and that of your underlings. I also want you to come up with the idea yourself."
>"Hmm... Mongrel. He is a threat, still, isn't he? What if I got him to agree not to touch any more of what belongs to you?"
"That's aiming high, Mamba, and I doubt you can do it. But, prove me wrong, and I'll see about getting you a place."

If Mamba can appease someone like the Mongrel, than either Chief overestimated his abilities to correctly evaluate the Mongrel, or Mamba would be dangerously competent.

If nothing else, he should think of what to do next, if anything, or simply let the event wrap up, and continue business as usual if just to let it settle and stabilize before pushing any expansion.

>You should have some standards to have
Chief does believe he needs to tighten things up before people like Mamba can gobble up fallen chunks. So far it's been easy, since Chief and Succubus have been able to guide everything, but there should be some guidelines for people to act upon, as an organization, even when not in constant contact with the organization.
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No. 798906 ID: 3ce125

>>798905
Here's another possible reason why Mamba would be able to do that. She's working with Mongrel. That would be VERY STRANGE for an Alison, but if she is working with him, and she backstabs you to get at your casino, then that will be awesome in its own way. Win-win!

Just in case, set aside a contingency plan for that possibility. If it does happen, despite being awesome it could be fairly damaging to your operation and your reputation as a competent leader. Best to limit the damage.
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No. 798909 ID: 3abd97

Dat sly face.

>>798905
Yeah, she's definitely going to try to usurp you and take over.

Making her useful to you while keeping her from making a move should be a fun challenge. And every criminal mastermind needs an overly ambitious underling.

First rule: she can never know about everything. You always have to have plans and plots she's not been read in on.

>So far it's been easy, since Chief and Succubus have been able to guide everything, but there should be some guidelines for people to act upon, as an organization, even when not in constant contact with the organization
Yeah. You need to delegate a bit. Build a system that runs itself, except when you tweak or adjust it.

...downside of having fixed protocols is someone clever on the inside like Mamba will be able to exploit them to her advantage. Best counter to that is to make sure you have lieutenants who are loyal.
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No. 798924 ID: a43366

Stabilization is good for right now. Your main goal is to create conflict that's fun for you to test yourself against, so preparing yourself for opponents infiltrating you and sabotage now, as well as building up personal loyalty is a good goal right now.
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No. 798944 ID: a43366

As far as guidelines go politeness seems like an obvious first rule. Negotiations should come before swift and merciless destruction.
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No. 798957 ID: 83b227

Since she's accepted, tell her "Good, then I'll select one of my associates to accompany you and observe how you do things."

It's a perfectly reasonable requirement, after all. Pick someone who's loyalty you're sure of and clever enough not to get in Mamba's way or get tricked to badly by her. Succubus is probably the best person for it. Did you ever try out the bilocation, after all? She could try it, to keep up a report to you. Well, that might be "cheating" here. If cheating is a thing at all.

>standards

Well, that will take some thought! Generally, a crime organization's code is one based on things that are ultimately good business anyway. Always honoring obligations, for example, makes people more willing to do business with you (and establishes that you take it seriously when someone owes YOU something). Loyalty is another obvious one, underlings of the organization to their boss and the boss to their underlings. You could also consider a code of honesty within your own group, never lying to anyone who's one of you (though of course you can just not give information, and lie freely to people outside the group). When you get people working against you, you could also make it policy to never threaten their friends who aren't part of their crusade, both because you want to build the idea that someone not personally interfering with you is relatively safe (to encourage more people to not interfere) and because when your rivals get the clever idea of "getting personal", they'll become top priority to all the other heroic types.
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No. 799017 ID: bfb318
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"One more question, Mamba. What cycle are you from?"
>"2515. I should be in the tablet directory."
"So you are. Alright, I will leave behind someone to watch how you work." Chief will send Pepper, who Chief knows won't be swayed by this Alison's guile.
>"I'll leave you two to it. Have fun, I'll let you know when Mongrel's been handled."

She slithers off, and Iso and Duelist walk to each side of her, matching each other's steps even with the difference in stride.

"What do you think, Succubus?"
>"I like her. She also might be the end of you."
"Good. Then I can get back to work. We'll need loyal lieutenants, and that goes for people who keep in more contact with you than myself. Remember, keep that carrot just within reach, only allow enough nibbles to barely satiate their hunger, and make sure we're in control of all carrots."

The event is a success, and it isn't an overstatement to say that it will influence a change in how people view Chief's actions. Yet it isn't the only factor involved.
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No. 799018 ID: bfb318
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799018

Chief's territory expands quicker than originally anticipated. He does not wish this so fast, but the world starts to run itself in ways Chief did not directly anticipate. Raids and attacks begin. Although Mongrel still does some raiding while Mamba was supposedly at work, his attacks are a small portion of hits. By watching Mongrel's earlier strikes, the public realizes that shops can just be looted, with no resistance, for free. Specifically, the shops outside of protection. These shops, being targeted, immediately seek protection from attacks from anyone who would willingly protect them. Mongrel changes things - because he ran and inspired attacks and raids, Chief is no longer the sole supplier of shop abuse. In other words, Chief no longer runs a racket. Mongrel practically turns his whole thing into a legitimate guard service.

GK responds by attempting to guard those shops as well, but for free. Naturally the shops prefer this, but GK's manpower is also made of charity. There are no wrestling wages, instead, he apparently runs donation drives to have people either help the shops for free, or to donate tickets so that he can purchase the services of those who will not guard for free. This, perhaps due to the excitement in the town, is a great success. GK is able to spread his guards to effectively hold many blocks, and at times, expands faster than Chief.

It is not sustainable for GK, but Chief still feels the pressure to snatch up the shops that GK could not. Before long, every single shop worth going to by anyone is under guarded territory. Chief's, GK's, and NPCs in the wrestledone set up perimeters, patrols, and so on. Some rival gangs crop up, and some shops attempt to hire protection themselves, but these account for a negligible amount of the market, and Chief expects most will fall out on their own.

The attacks settle as the hours pass and the shops are snatched up by the established guard services. Only the most professional, dedicated raiders remain as threats. The rest either tap through the novelty of being raiders, or only did it when it was trivial to do so.

With the threat no longer novel and people's hearts run out of charity, GK's forces dwindled, as do his effective guarding capacity. The shops know that being left out of guarded areas will invite hits from the remaining road bandits. The ones GK is forced to pull back from beg him to continue guarding them, but GK does not want to stretch himself too thin. GK sends his apologies. Chief sends his forces and payment collectors to take over. Eventually, that exchange of territory settles as well, and GK's forces stabilize in numbers. At the end of it all, the estimations show that Chief controls 60% of the stores, and GK 20%. The remainder are held by strong NPC guards, or ragtag independents. Despite that, while overall economy strength is split proportionately between GK and Chief, well over 50% of the economic strength is within the wrestledome stores simply due to size and population density.
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No. 799019 ID: bfb318
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Stabilization lasts only a few short hours. Scanner reports GK's forces are able to grow slowly again as he finds people and money. He sends people in to Chief's territory shops to spread propoganda. They even buying products and taking an interest in the shop, so it would seem that they are becoming their friends, so that they can get the shop's own support. On the other side of the coin, they drop hints or even tell the shopkeeps how unfortunate the protection fees are. They are fighting with more propoganda than force, which is smart, Chief thinks, as he would easily be able to spin them in bad light if they only brought combat and damage to the table. Instead, they bring discussion and friendship, which makes chasing them out of stores look bad, while not chasing them out of stores lets them spread their discussion freely. Chief can't think of an effective counter to this strategy, all he can do is fight fire with fire. He sends people to argue with the people GK send in, while sending his own propagandists to GK's shops.

Chief has a business, and can maintain this. GK is an independent, idealogical force. The situation does not do GK well, and his ranks begin to deplete again. Many of the champions are not content to simply stand around for pay, every day. They want to be on the offensive and make a difference. The status quo bores them, at least in this post-scarcity society.

Guardsman himself becomes the embodiment of that unease. Scanner, using Guardsman's antics, helps spread dissent. Forming fight clubs within the organization only goes so far, as that makes little difference. Even Guardsman himself doesn't much care for sparring pointlessly. The whole situation surprises Chief, as he thought Guitar Knight would lead his offensive in more combative manner. Instead, he's turned this into a propaganda based war. Despite that GK has not been terribly effective in removing Chief from power, he is proving to be a resilient, and determined, parasite. The more activity Chief does, the more manpower GK can leech from the public. Scanner helps undermine it, but her best utility still comes from showing how GK's organization ticks.

Chief will have to remain vigilant for GK. Pondering about what to do, Chief realizes that he hasn't been hit by Mongrel in the last several hours. Any sightings of him have been in independent or, later, in GK's area. Mamba sends Chief a message.

>"You haven't been attacked by Mongrel, right? He doesn't want to hear from or have anything to do with your side, but he should be out of your way."

Chief sends Pepper a message.

"Pepper, what did Mamba do?"
>"Not much? She's just been chatting up her friends and playing with her tablet, but she's just told me that Mongrel is already unhappy with the sight of an Alison, so she has to work through others. She's definitely not been open with her methods."

Practically speaking, Chief supposes it might not matter too much about what Mamba did to keep Mongrel away from him, but he is terribly curious how this Alison succeeded where his own Alison failed.
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No. 799024 ID: 3ce125

>>799019
She might be using sex as a bargaining chip. Not sure how to confirm this without outright spying on the people she uses as intermediaries. You could just try doing that, but be careful about her catching you spying on something you shouldn't be. Think of the headlines: "Chief caught spying on contestants having sex! Should this pervert be in charge of your police force?"
Though that makes me wonder what the contestant society thinks of sex in general.

Also, it occurs to me if you wanted to make yourself even more legitimate (and the racketeering angle is ruined anyway) you could base the protection fee on how much business the shop gets. Then you'd be taxing shops in order to fund what is becoming a police force rather than a gang of thugs. It might also be time to figure out ways to make weapons. Things that make people teleport earlier (nets?) or physics-based devices that can otherwise remove offenders from the area (by bodily tossing them away). Since this will give other people the idea to make weapons, you'll want to make countermeasures at the same time. Some kind of defensive equipment. Or maybe such "weapons" are impossible due to how the safe zone rules work?
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No. 799025 ID: 83b227

Well, invite her to a dinner or something. Ask her to tell you the story of how she accomplished this. You can also probably just be direct and say outright that you're concerned how Pepper wasn't given much opportunity to see how Mamba worked, given that you specifically stated that that was her reason for accompanying her. That you'd expect the cleverer of your associates, which you hope Mamba is, to be a little more attentive to such things.

You could use this as justification to say that, while you will give her the territory she asked for (since she did accomplish your task), you will not give as much control as she would have gotten, instead leaving a decent amount of your own people in place, with regular check-ins by yourself or your seconds. Maybe even a more full-time overseer? Just until you have the information that Pepper was supposed to be shown, of course.

If you want to rattle her a little, you might also express your feeling that Mamba's inattentiveness to your dear Pepper was a little... disrespectful towards her.
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No. 799027 ID: 211d83

Honestly our Alison did not try that hard with Mongrel. She asked him nicely and he told her to fuck off and we shrugged and let Arbitor deal with him.

So Mamba probably did the same. She sent her Arbitor or Guardsman or whoever to deal with him. We only saw her with her with two people but she could have a whole crew hidden away. And if her cycle's personality was a bit more scheming then she would be a lot more subtle with her methods.

Either way she did pass the competence test so its time to let her have a spot on the team. Should be fun playing with her and awaiting the sudden but inevitable betrayal.

So in preparation for that you need to do a few things.

1. Get to work on scouting out her people. Find out who was brought back from her cycle and what other friends she has made since her resurrection.
2. Find and interview some people from her cycle. Find out what she was like.
3. Set up a secret lair for a showdown. Something over the top villainous with a silly shark tank and ominous throne rooms and such.
4. Find her Chief. She said she had one and who knows it might be him plotting against you in secret.
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No. 799029 ID: 3abd97

I suppose if we crossed the line from racket to legitimate security services, that moves Chief's gang / mob to something more like union toughs, or a mildly corrupt police force.

We might have to expand into other kinds of crime. Construction racket? Offering services that are illegal? Well, nothing's actually illegal here, maybe just stuff that's not offered by the official shops, or is taboo in the main culture. (Not sure there are drugs to offer? A brothel or bordello might be possible, but I dunno if there's enough demand. A lot of the population is sex ignorant, which might mean a lack of demand, or a lot of demand from the small population that wants some without having to introduce someone new to it every time. A prohibition style bar or something might be doable on style alone)?

We might also need to shake up the stabilizing protection game with a chaotic Murdermouse bombing spree. Make sure she hits some of your territory too.

>Honestly our Alison did not try that hard with Mongrel. She asked him nicely and he told her to fuck off and we shrugged and let Arbitor deal with him.
That is a point. Our Alison tried to talk to him a few times and got stonewalled. That was it. She never got an idea of what makes him stick. If Mamba actually got to know Mongrel 2515 at all, she has a big advantage.

For instance, if she knew his personality, she might have known Mongrel would get bored and back off on his own. So she predicted that, and is now taking credit when she didn't have to do anything.

>what do with Mamba
Invite her in for a talk, we're impressed at what she accomplished, especially while not being obvious to her minder. Discuss giving her some greater responsibility- what is she interested in?

...you know, for a really sneaky move, we might go have a nice meal catch up talk with Alison-Alison covertly, and ask what she would be doing if she was Mamba.
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No. 799030 ID: b2db3f

You know we are assuming that this Alison was the dominant one in her cycle due to our experiences.

But remember that you won several of those fights across the cycles. So this Alison might just be a face for someone else (anther chief perhaps?)

That or she is just willing to use methods our Alison would not.
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No. 799032 ID: bfb318
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>Weapons
Chief has R&D for this, and while the details are vague, the team says that theoretically certain teleporters can be weaponized, but putting them into something feasible for a fight is the tricky part. Instead, they may simple set up nets, net-guns, and other restraining devices.

Chief invites Mamba to dinner, and the invitation is quickly accepted. Meanwhile, Chief will send probes to investigate Black Mamba's own staff. It appears that her Chief is remembered, but not resurrected.

>Illegal activity
There's none of that, just morally dubious things. Chief's R&D is also looking into drugs; they can be modified from the sensation bar to have various effect.

"Hello, Mamba."
>"Hey, Chief."
"Let's get down to business. You seem to have at least held off Mongrel, which is as good as it gets with him."
>"Mhm."
"But, it wasn't enough to just see your effectiveness. There's more to competency here, there are standards and fitting in. Guidelines are being formed as our enterprise settles in. That's why I sent in Pepper, yet you seemed to be inattentive and dismissive of her. It seemed disrespectful."
>"You wanted to see how I worked, yes? That was it. I owe my crew for their own competency, much like how you depend on your gang no matter how effective you, alone, may be."
"And as the leader, I represent my own gang. If Gnoll were to thrash our own shop for fun, the public would not think 'oh, Gnoll's up to his old antics again'. They would say that Chief destroys his own goods. And so it is with you - the people's actions reflect on you, and that is what I was after. You will get your territory, Mamba, but I am reluctant in letting you control much outside of what will be your sphere of influence."
>"Mm, perhaps I misjudged you, and assumed you were like my own Chief. Far more involved in the practical and utilitarian effects, rather than reputation and conceptions. I'm sorry, Chief, I didn't mean to hide it from you, I just didn't think it was important. Perhaps I misread Pepper's inquiries, as well. I will explain. Mongrel does not like allies, friendships, and so on. I could not appeal to that. He can only be angered and be destructive. He does not care to chase the carrot, but he will turn and attack the stick. You are absolutely correct about the actions of underlings, and not just do I agree, that is exactly how I approached Mongrel. I ran a false flag operation. I sent my underlings to act as representatives of Guitar Knight, to plead and beg of Mongrel to attack you and not Guitar Knight's territory. Mongrel may not be stupid, but he is blind, petty, and easy to anger. My underlings pressed Mongrel in the most infuriating, patronizing way that they could manage. They enraged him. Guitar Knight enraged him, or at least that's what he thought. By the end of our pleas, Mongrel thought it was his own idea and directive to not just attack Guitar Knight in retaliation, but that he would attack him exclusively. I admit, it was a risky plan, but it seems to have paid off exactly as planned."

That was certainly not something Chief's Alison would do, although upon thinking about it more, his own Alison did not even try that hard with Mongrel.
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No. 799038 ID: 3abd97

>>799032
There we go. She understood how Mogrel thinks, so she could manipulate him. He responds violently to being pitied or sucked up to and reacts violently.

I'd say she's earned her operation. Did she have an ideas as to what she wanted? (I like the idea of setting up a bordello or speakeasy or something in that vein, but let's see if she has a better one).
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No. 799048 ID: 83b227

Ok, be pleased, but not too pleased. Someone as smart as she presents herself to be should have caught on to the fact that, if they want you to employ them, they need to show their employability. Either she's not that clever, or she was testing you a bit herself. Say that you're impressed, that you'll let her set up shop under your wing, you'll observe how she chooses to run her place and you'll put some thought into how she can assist you.

But you should make sure she understands two points: one, that while you appreciate her skills at deception, she is not under any circumstance to practice them against members of your own inner circle. Second, that you expect people affiliated with you to practice a certain degree of courtesy, particularly towards yourself and your closest companions, such as Pepper or Succubus.

You might want to consider formalizing some sort of initiation into your group, a "made man" sort of thing, for people who are considered trustworthy. Maybe a second degree of it even, for especially double trustworthy people. And then the more informal level of your own personal companions, of course. Maybe even make a little ritual or oath, for fun? AIs in a computer you may be, but contestants have shown a little superstition in the past, so it might also encourage people to play by the rules if you dress it up a bit. Some variation on the basic mafia code should work to swear to (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_initiation_ritual#Rules), except maybe the "respect womanhood and elders" one. Maybe change that to respecting the gods and the people who ended the contest.
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No. 799095 ID: 78a3e5

It was a good plan, with flaws that if the fact that he was set up gets out it would backfire, but flaws which were reasonably mitigated, and even if it's only a temporary reprieve you can take advantage of it.

As for how she acts she seems like she would be an excellent employee, if her ambition can be mitigated/manipulated. However she is much more underhanded than our Alison and assumptions about her beyond perhaps hugging should be considered carefully. She has definitely shown a duplicitous streak so that needs to be accounted for in future dealings with her.
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No. 799097 ID: db0da2

>>799032
>his own Alison did not even try that hard with Mongrel
I think she might have hated him, on a level. Alison does not hate easily, so she wouldn't have really known how to deal with it. Perhaps she found him so disgusting that she didn't want to empathize with him.
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No. 799754 ID: bfb318
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"Hm. You'll get your operations, if just to see how well you do with them. I can appreciate skills at deception, but it should be clear that if I find that you use them against members of my own gang, you'll find it's much easier to lose what you have than gain it. Secondly, I expect people affiliated with me to receive a certain degree of courtesy. This should have been clear, too, but you will have to mind that fact, particularly towards me, Succubus, and Pepper. Even if Pepper did not aggressively peer into your plans, you knew that the entire point was so that I could have one of my own vouch for your methods."
>"I'll keep it in mind, then. If you send her, or anyone, to watch how to manage my sphere, I'll bring them in right under my tail so they get to watch without needing to ask."
"Then speaking of what you will manage, you will have your sphere, but what will this be? A speakeasy? A bordello?"
>"A tutelage center."
"A what?"
>"A school. Similar to your Alison, I take a bias towards those who, despite everything, have a vocation for productivity. I know that the Ring Shell exists, but that's a bit, how do I call it... hardcore. People in the RS are pressured to work hard and long, and it comes with all kinds of demanding expectations. With good reason, sure, but there's many people who just want it to be a hobby, who enjoy mathematics, sciences, social studies and so on, but would hate it if it became their duty. I'd like to fill that niche, so that the hobbyists have a more leisurely place to study. This can be useful to you, of course, since you have construction products and an increasing enterprise that will need more administration talent. How about it?"
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No. 799757 ID: 3ce125

>>799752
That is an excellent idea.

Maybe we can expand on that. We could set up some stadiums and similar structures for practicing sports or other physical activities. I'm sure there are specialists that make such things their main hobby and would love to teach others how to do it.
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No. 799758 ID: 211d83

That sounds like a idea I can get behind.
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No. 799759 ID: a3cd80

She is working with a known criminal, has good team management skills and wants to build a school.
I'm not against it but we should at least ask why she came to us instead of asking one of the gods for help.
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No. 799761 ID: 3abd97

A mob run finishing school? That is an enormously appealing idea, on audacity alone.

Of course, the core idea of educating people who aren't going to be hard core research types has obvious social value, too.

It does put her in a good position to make some kind of play if she's planning it, because she's certainly in a good position to apply social skills and gain influence with her students.

Very well. You will have your tutelage center, headmistress Alison, to train fine young dames and dandies.
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No. 799776 ID: 91ee5f

>>799754
>Slower paced RS studying for hobbyists.
That sounds great! And maybe with the slower pace, the hobbyists might find something the hard core RS guys missed? If that does happen, it'll end up helping everyone in the long run!
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Chief smiles, and wonders to himself if Mamba thinks that her idea pleases him. If so, then while it is true, the real reason for his smile is the audacity of her idea. She is putting herself in a position where she gets to teach what she wants to be known. If Chief was taking this seriously, he would have many questions. He decides to only ask one.

"Why come to me for it? I'm sure Rulekeeper would love the idea, and wouldn't demand that they graduate to become lifelong workers in the RS."
>"I don't think the gods want us to be too dependant on them, for various reasons."

For various reasons, she's more correct than perhaps she even knows.

"Approved. My own headquarters is at the top of this building, while the public entertainment facilities are mostly at the bottom levels of this and the other buildings. I will make your school in between my headquarters and the entertainment area. If it gets interest and goes well, we'll see about expanding it."
>"Thank you!"
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The rest of the dinner is pleasant but short, as Mamba seems legitimately excited to get started. Chief lends Mamba some of his resources to kickstart her pet project, which primarily involves constructors to create a classroom environment out of the default living quarters of the skyscraper, and marketers to advertise the school itself.

Over the next day or so, things remain more or less stabile. Territory doesn't move significantly, a couple of wrestling events take place as normal, and business goes as normal. Chief sets up a simple code of ethics that people will swear by as they become full fledged gang members. The oath isn't anything spectacular. Respect elders and people who don't belong to the enemy, work as a team rather than for personal gain, and generic things like that. Ultimately, to use common sense, but it serves as a good basic principle so that people have some direction to aim for.

Interest in the school is high, as it fills a niche. Mamba makes herself headmistress of the Snake Queen's College, a name that seemed to materialize out of thin air and stuck before Chief thought otherwise. Pepper and Succubus to investigate how it's ran, and true to her word, Mamba quite literally keeps them under her tail, showing them how she runs it, what her methodology will be, and how she'll test the waters and adapt. Succubus sends periodic and thorough reports back, explaining that Mamba does get to know all students, active and prospective, and has an open door policy as much as she can find time for. For the most part, it all seems transparent, minding that Mamba does take a brief break every few hours in her personal room.

Chief figures it would be in bad taste to attempt to have constant surveillance on her. In any case, he finds Mamba's intimate relations with her students to be a larger red flag, and pertains specifically to what he told Succubus and Pepper to keep an eye on. Students, if left to their own devices, may feel more loyalty towards Mamba and her accommodating, helpful gang, moreso than Chief. Mamba could fully deny that this is her intent, but that may be what is going on.

Chief can let that slide, or attempt to combat it. He could inundate the school itself with more loyal members as staff, simply to integrate his own image into the college rather than letting Mamba be the face, or some other preventative measure.
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No. 799870 ID: 3d2d5f

Arguably, it's sort of how Alison beat you the first time. Appealing to minions, winning them over, and flipping them.

Easier way to counter propaganda is free information. Flooding the school with your own teachers is overkill. You should definitely have at least one loyal person in her teaching staff to keep an eye on things and be a moderating influence, though.

Maybe send a person or two loyal to you through the program as students, too (new appearances optional). Education is a benefit, and it lets them keep an eye on what's being taught. No one high profile enough that she'd notice them disappearing, tho.

I'd make sure there's exposure to other ideas: extracurricular activities, guest speakers (can be almost anyone with social skills and ideas- doesn't even have to be in bed with you. Even other Alisons), trade skill type training by giving them work study in the more legitimate parts of your operation.

This won't prevent her from producing some students who may be personally loyal to her, but it keeps her from being able to control what the entire group is exposed to to shape expectations and beliefs. It scales her influence back a bit.

If she's in this for 100% good reasons, she'll welcome your added help. If she's just trying to increase her own influence... well she'll be a little frustrated but accept anyways.
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No. 799871 ID: 094652

Send over a couple guys as school guards, pay them to act as 'mentors' for the students.

You don't need the loyalty of the majority, the school is for hiring and training elite agents. So get THEIR loyalty and let Black Mamba take the rejects. She'll need them.
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No. 799872 ID: 83b227

You don't need to do any of those, exactly. There's a way that you can retake a dominant place in her students' eyes without intruding on or supplanting her: set up a placement agency for the graduates!

Her students aren't people who want to be full hardcore professionals, but they still want things to do with their skills, right? They want to feel useful, accomplished, and to enjoy the adulation of others. Use your contacts to collect information on places, people and projects who are wanting for the skills the students have to offer. They come to you from her school, your employees find out how they've done and maybe offer a little test or chance to show their skills, and with that information you find them places they want. You can provide the social networking power that a lot of them will probably lack. Make it so that the occasional best of the best get the chance to meet with you personally and have your direct attention and assistance finding them a good place.

By making your attention something of a reward, you won't have to spend as much personal time as Mamba does - the idea of competing and proving themselves for the chance to meet you will create an emotional investment and impression of your stature by itself. In addition, by making Alison's school the first-stage preliminary to "moving on" to your agency, you put her in a visibly subordinate position to yourself - and all under the guise of just being even more helpful. You'll even get to collect information on the students' skills (giving you an excuse to politely keep up a little surveillance) and get the first chance to recruit any especially desirable ones yourself, as well the ability to subtly support or sabotage certain projects by directing or withholding the best people to/from them.

You'll just have to make sure that the assistance of your placement agency is really desirable. You'll have to put a good amount of effort into making sure the places you find for people are places they'll love, so your reputation becomes good, and the few who get your personal attention will need to be impressed enough with it that everyone wants it. For example, you might want to consider starting a habit of throwing high-class invitation-only parties/galas/etc. in addition to the events that everyone can participate in, and if you can depend on having celebrities and other important people come to those exclusive events, then an invitation to said events could be one of the rewards for those graduating students who earn your personal attention.

It'll be a big investment, but I think the eventual payoffs would be worth it.
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No. 799894 ID: 211d83

Spy on her when she is on break and see who she is talking to on her communicator. Just because.
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No. 799897 ID: d670a0

The best thing to do in my opinion is let her think her plan is working in this avenue, maybe with a few overtures to combat it as a formality, and instead build up loyalty and plans in another avenue to combat this for if/when she tries to topple you.

One way to try and combat this is perhaps sponsoring internship programs and getting the students invested outside the college.
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No. 799898 ID: fc33ea

Advertise upcoming events you're putting on in the school's space with posters and whatnot. We don't need their loyalty, we just need enough PR that they don't rush upstairs for your head. Also, you can use the excuse that because her school is so close to your HQ, you need to survail it in case anyone uses their attendance as a cover.
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No. 799901 ID: 3ce125

If she's getting their loyalty then you should become an extension of that loyalty. Be good to the students. If they think highly of you then she won't be able to make them turn against you.

At this point I'm starting to wonder if she's even going to try? She has an organization of her own and this is a safe zone. If she were evil or something, her group would abandon her. They must want to follow her.
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No. 800130 ID: 15a025

Try and set up some events at the school. Host a science fair, math competition, or something like those. Offer some interesting prizes if you do.
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No. 800370 ID: bfb318
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Chief has a few ideas, but realizes that he's also in a perfect position to put the skilled labor to his own use. Some hobbyists may just want to learn for learning's sake, but many want to put it to practical use. Chief's network will be able to point them in the right direction, and so he will create an agency that will point people in a direction to apply what they know. They get to work in a way that will be appreciated, and in many cases, Chief will be able to directly make use of their skills for his own ends.

It will be worth it even if Mamba has no ulterior motive. The agency can legitimately take people's best interests to heart and still have good payoff for himself, while Mamba's college will be autonomous, if linked. It's a rare case of everybody winning.

It will also put the school in a more subservient position, as Chief's agency will be a next step system, making Mamba's school a preliminary action to 'move on' from. Chief himself can also set himself up so that his presence can be a reward, by often working directly working with the best of the best. He will have his own crew both be staff members and students, and all are made clear that their conduct and behavior must reflect well on Chief. His agency, too, must show good interest in students. He will still run events for, and advertised through, the school. Although not as direct as Mamba hands-on approach, and admittedly perhaps not as effective as what Alison can manage, the delegation is necessary so that Chief can run his other operations. Chief just needs enough presence to show that in the end, the college is just one part of Chief's operation.

Mamba gladly accepts everything. Chief would be stunned if she didn't - anything but enthusiasm for having so much investment put into and around her school would seem suspicious.
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Chief is deadly curious about what she does on her private break, nonetheless. If it's anything nefarious, it almost certainly involves speaking to people on her tablet, and that's difficult to spy on without being found out. That, and just not wanting to go overboard on paranoia, Chief avoids direct espionage.

Things settle, and days go by. Guitar Knight and his band continue to exist, powered by people who strongly wish for shop independence. Chief is rather tickled by people's charitability, and likely has something to do with the bulk of the population being hand-picked for resurrection by Glitcher himself.

Chief's agency seems to be working as intended, yet Mamba's actions don't let it work exactly as intended. Namely, his agency's attempts to treat 'graduation' as an end step seems to be in direct conflict with how Mamba ends up running things. There is virtually no formal graduation in Mamba's school, at least not in any sense that would imply the education is over. She sets up advanced classes, review classes, competitions and so on to bypass the idea that anyone moves on from the school permanently. When Chief's agents send out students to work for others or himself, Mamba's agents soon follow, asking what the student has learned by doing, and what could be improved in the classroom, and just how things are going. In that way, Mamba's body may remain in the classrooms, but her tail coils out, looping them around Chief's operations and tying it all together.

It turns out that she isn't just setting herself up as the headmistress, but she seems to be the mother figure, mentor, counselor and so on, and her doors remain open even to the people who moved on to work. The school continues to boom in popularity, yet there's few people Chief speaks to that hasn't personally spoken with Mamba. He wonders how she finds the time.

In other words, the Black Mamba is Alison-ing everyone right underneath Chief's nose, without his Alison's courtesy of waiting for him to die first. Yet, Chief realizes that he can learn how to re-structure the RS research group by drawing parallels between that, how he runs the gang, and how Mamba runs her school. RS research requires a great deal of creativity, yet in his many years of managing the RS team, he's turned it into a well oiled, optimized machine that is formulaic and, above all else, sterile. Chief's priority is still on the RS instead of this game, and although he won't give up the game without a fight, he's willing to let Mamba run wild for awhile so that he can learn and see if there is merit in her chaotic hobby group.

>"It's sort of a school. It's also like its own community." says Pepper, discussing Chief's own thoughts during another, more close knit event. "Hell, even like a home based on how many people basically live there."
>"It's like if our Alison actually made a real harem!" Succubus jokes, or at least, Chief thinks she's joking. She might not be joking.
"I still have no idea if she is attempting to undermine me and extend her power." says Chief. "Every hour I get more curious! What she does is helpful and for the good of society, yet it has a byproduct of power playing that may or may not be intentional."
>"She's intermingling her activities with yours, but I don't know how she'll leverage that into anything threatening. Also, I believe she could think the same of you, about power playing with kindness." says Succubus.
"True, and although I may not have her Alison-like qualities, I still have much to learn about her college."
>"Oh, is that Sweatermouse? Hey, Sweatermouse!"
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Sweatermouse stops by Chief's table.

"Sweatermouse, hello."
"Hi!"
"This is an event for students and teachers, what could you possibly be studying?"
>"Don't tell me you're teaching seduction?" Succubus jokes.
"Hahahaha oh gosh don't give me the mental image! I'm learning dancing."
"You like to dance?"
"Yeah! And I'd like it more if I wasn't terrible!"
"Well that's what classes are for."
"Yeah it's tough though they always say to dance like no one watches while the entire class watches! Then Aliso - Mamba caught wind and told me about a little closet with a body length mirror so I - anyway this Alison is nice."
"Aren't they all?"
"Yeah! She sure changed, though."
"What do you mean?"
"Oh, uh, well she's cycle 2515 right? I actually met her before she started her school system, when I was trying to meet every Alison. She was so mellow, and just hung in her room all the time! But now after she started schooling, she's very enthusiastic and outgoing."
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No. 800376 ID: 3ce125

>>800372
Her room? What was in there? See if you can get information from Sweatermouse about who Black Mamba really is. What her motivations might be. Maybe she was like you, Chief? Lacking a connection to her original motivations and goals which gave her a sense of ennui, then decided to go back to her roots?
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No. 800385 ID: 83b227

Hmmm... Is she 2515?

I mean, not to ask if she's an imposter, but is every Mamba actually the same person? I mean, if there's one key weakness in Mamba's approach, it's that it all spins on her and therefore would eat up all her time and energy (even if she's started using multiple bodies herself, I'm sure that kind of thing would be a big mental drain) and leave the system vulnerable to her absence. Those problems could easily be compensated for by simply having "Mamba" be several Alisons working together... and that would fit with a change in personality. You could have one "mellow who just hangs in her room all the time" - keeping up on all sorts of things remotely and making plans and so on while doing so - and one or more "enthusiastic and outgoing" alisons who do the leg(tail?)work and just check back and trade places every now and then.

Not sure what to do about it. If the school has been becoming very popular, you do have sufficient grounds to be concerned with her workload, and to ask her if she has things set up to be able to run themselves in the event of her wanting or needing to take extended time off. You could ask her to take on an assistant or vice-headmistress who could cover her in such a hypothetical scenario.
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No. 800393 ID: 3abd97

Hmm. What did you talk about when she was hiding in her room, Sweatermouse?

>>800372
It's possible this pursuit reinvigorated her, but it's also possible she's lying about which Alison she is. Would be easy for one to steal the identity of another, really. (Not sure why she would need to, unless she was a particularly famous or infamous one trying to dodge their past).

As to how she has time to meet with so many people: it could be Mamba is a coalition of Alisons cooperating instead of a single one (or that she has some of her allies shape shifted with body mods). That would make her private meeting coordination times, then.

Unfortunately, there's no way to confirm this without powers that let you see who someone really is (cycle / ID) regardless of appearance (which means relying on one of the digital gods), or much more aggressive surveillance.
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No. 800394 ID: fc33ea

You must've said something really motivating, sweatermouse.
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No. 800407 ID: 211d83

This is what not being paranoid gets you. A little bit of legwork and you would already know all this stuff.

She is probably up to nothing evil but by not checking on that first now you will be worried all the time.

So track down her past info and more people from her cycle. Like we said before you got this far. Check to see if she is who she says she is and learn what she is doing. She might be getting help from dozens of Alison's to keep her web working.

And as for her "non sterile" methods? Yeah that's why you lost during this cycle dummy. While you are a great boss and administrator she is the type of leader that you instinctively want to follow. Why? Because she shows that she cares for her followers and gets involved with there lives.

Long story short your style of leadership is like a well oiled bureaucracy that runs a powerful nation. It works and is effective and corruption is minimal. While she is one of those rare leaders who conquers half the world by leading her nation with shear force of personality. And everyone of her subjects would gladly die for her because they know she would do the same for them.
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No. 800409 ID: 83b227

By the way, I've been thinking of something... there's still sort of a sense of low consequence around, or perhaps low importance would be better? All you all really have to worry about is the opinions of other people, and if all goes poorly you can pack up, leave, mingle around, change your look and pretend to be a different version of yourself. Like, you told Mamba you'd disapprove if she deceived any of your group, but what really can you do to her if she does? Her and her loyal friends can just go, and lose nothing that they started with.

But I'll tell you who you can't pull that sort of thing with: your gods. You can't fool them, right? And while they're nice, I'm sure deep down everyone is a little intimidated and eager not to ever be seriously on their bad sides, or lose rep with them. I mean, you can't do anything to them. They pretty much care about each other more than they do the rest of you. Their good will towards you all is basically the foundation of everything.

So I was thinking, society might benefit if there was some method or tradition by which one could swear to/by/before the gods, or at least a god of choice. So that, when someone does that, it pings for their attention (I'm pretty sure they notice whenever anyone even talks about them, anyway), and maybe they make a little note of it and take a quick check to see if the person is lying or insincere or such. Maybe even, in key places around the place, set up shrines that people can go to for ceremonies and to pray (a lot of the general population are probably too intimidated to call the gods for things they want to ask about or request, and having a little statue or something to come along to and talk to would probably make them more willing and make the process more manageable at the same time). Perhaps for certain serious ceremonial events, there could even be some mechanism in the larger shrines for people to have a string or two temporarily pulled out and shown to everyone in attendance, as sort of an equivalent to making a blood oath or something like that, where if the string pulled out into visibility is one that'll visibly react if they lie or something? It'd also get the gods more involved in the lives of the people, building their attachment to you and your attachment to them, and give them something else to do besides bash their heads against the same divine RS problems and administrative issues all the time. Haydee, at least, seems to have the spare time to be an interventionist deity now and then. They could probably take turns covering things for each other.

It's not something you should set up yourself, since you're trying to be a pillar of infamy, but you could pass the idea up to the glitchfamily. I think you lot could do with a bit more mysticism in your lives. It'd be fun.
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No. 800412 ID: bfb318
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800412

"Her room?"
>"Oh, just a random apartment building, probably her initial spawn point."
"Do you remember where it was?"
>"Yeah! I mean no but - "

She pulls out a long, folded up piece of paper out from her sweater pocket, and starts looking down it. Apparently, she has a directory of Alisons.

"8th and B, building 6228. No one else was there, though!""
"What did you two talk about?"
"Oh not much, just how she was settling in, maybe a little about how her cycle was, but apparently she died early."
"You must have said something incredibly motivating."
"Hahaha no I really didn't! She apologized for having some anxiety when it came to talking to people, and I said that I still was glad I came."
"That sounds motivating."
"Oh gosh I just don't think so!"

It wouldn't surprise Chief if Mamba was multiple people. It doesn't sit well with Chief, though. If they were all Alisons, then it would make more sense to have a team of Alisons, not act like they were all a single person, unless Mamba-Alison is more common than originally thought.

If it's just shapeshifters, then Chief would be impressed by them. He had seen actors in the contest, back when shapeshifting was an active ability, try to mimic various people, including Alison. She was difficult to imitate. Everything about her body language, manner of speech, attitude, tone, inflection and so on seems to be precise, consistent, and difficult to mimic. Chief did not think he met anyone who could make themselves indistinguishable from the real Alison.

Chief still thinks highly of the chances of this scenario, unless Black Mamba is simply extraordinarily efficient at chatting with people.
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No. 800413 ID: bfb318
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800413

After the gathering, Chief decides to do a little bit of legwork, and goes up to the room that Sweatermouse specified. There is a more classic looking Iso inside.

>"Hi." Iso says, in an awkward tone, after an awkward pause.
"Hello. Is this your room?"
>"Uh, no, though I'm close by. Except I've been in here for awhile but... still not my room. I'm looking for an Alison - the one from my cycle - and I heard she was in here? I've been waiting since this is my only lead, but she hasn't come back. I think she's privately listed, because she's shy. I was resurrected later, so she might have moved out. Er, sorry, didn't mean to... talk so much."
"It's fine, I'd like to know. What cycle are you from?"
>"2515."
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No. 800414 ID: d57240

This brings up an idea. You can try to find someone not from Alison's group from 2515 to give you another perspective on her actions as well as confirm that she's from that session and didn't switch tablets with another Alison, though I don't know why she would.
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No. 800415 ID: 211d83

Tell him that he is in luck and you know just where his girlfriend is.

Then get his story about her while you walk.
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No. 800417 ID: 3ce125

>>800413
Wait, WHAT? The Iso that Mamba had with her is NOT this Iso. Alright, why not. Let's reunite him with Mamba. In person. Get to see the expression on her face.

Also ask him what his Alison is like, exactly.
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No. 800418 ID: fc33ea

That's... strange. You think he'd have heard where she's gone.
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No. 800419 ID: 83b227

Well now, that's odd. She had a different Iso with her, then, before. Why? You'll have to be subtle about this.

Ask him to come with you, you've been investigating the trail his Alison left yourself. Say you'll leave someone near here to watch this place for him while he's out, and do that. Also, have a look around and see if there's any neighbors who might have been in a position to notice anything, at or before the time when Mamba first appeared to you.

I'm also going to poke my last post there (>>800410) in case it gets missed. It's not of immediate importance, just a general suggestion, except that it could set up a situation where Mamba (and others) could feel more compunctions about being honest.
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No. 800420 ID: e22b1d

We saw a different Iso with her earlier so she must have switched identities.

The question is why she would bother?

So talk to this Iso for a bit and learn more about his Alison. Then before we confront Mamba try to track down the real cycle 2515 Alison first. Maybe one of the Glitchkids can help. Reunite them and you will have proof that Mamba is not quite what she says she is. (Plus a Iso should never be without his Alison)

Although I like the idea of a shy Alison piloting another Alison who is bad at organization from behind the scenes. This could be something silly going on instead of something ominous.
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No. 800421 ID: 3abd97

An early stage Iso. Alison hadn't even helped him pick out a nicer outfit, yet.

>>800413
You might know where she is, but either you're mistaken (wrong Alison) or she's gotten less shy.

Maybe ask a little of their history?

I wouldn't run right to confronting Mamba. Maybe try and find some other 2515s and see if they know each other / are consistent? (Worst case, Iso here at least finds some peers. If we're really lucky, one might even know where his Alison is).

Scenarios right now are Mamba is Alison 2515 (and has dramatically changed / is trying to separate from her past) or she's a different Alison who bought or stole Alison 2515's identity, who is shy enough to hide out of the way (which would suggest Mamba is a famous or infamous Alison trying to dodge her name. You own Alison, trying to have fun without her rep? Someone like "Mafia Alison" looking to escape the negative connotation of her log?).
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No. 800424 ID: bfb318
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800424

"I might know where she is."
>"Well... okay, if there's a chance."
"At least, it's someone claiming to be from her cycle."

Chief and Iso start heading out and down the elevator.

"What's the story behind your cycle?"
>"We got to stage 2, I think." says Iso. "Then we died. Alison a little before me."
"That's it?"
>"Uh... basically. Alison made a few friends I guess, but... nothing really to it. I think you know most of the friends since they start out with the same people and all, so it was just sort of like if... like if your cycle had an early death Alison."
"What was she like?"
>"A bit quiet. She liked to meet people, but was always nervous about it. I think that's why she liked me, I can kind of talk a lot without needing input."

The elevator gets pinged to stop at floor 2 by someone else.
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No. 800426 ID: bfb318
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800426

It opens to reveal Mamba.

>"Hello, Chief."
"Mamba. Iso, is this your Alison?"
>"N... no?" Iso says.
>"Iso, go back up the elevator. I know where your Alison is, I'll get into contact, but Chief and I have to talk."
>"Uh... okay."

Mamba and Chief wait for the elevator to start going back up.

"Am I being spied on, Mamba?"
>"We live in a fishbowl, Chief, and you're a celebrity. You're too easy to keep track of, but more importantly, I wanted to talk to you before you found out things on your own."
"Then talk."
>"I'm not from cycle 2515. That Alison got a phone thinking she might like to speak to people, but then got too nervous and wanted to lie low. Instead of handing the tablet back, though, I intercepted her, asking if I could take it."
"That's feasible, but why?"
>"Because Alison 2515 is just a regular Alison with no known reputation. Here I was, reborn, and immediately I had an unfair reputation attached to my name - no, my number - and I didn't want to have to deal with that. I wanted to be able to start on a fresh slate, instead of being treated like a criminal based on a single log."
"1700?"
>"Yes. Call me Mamba."
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No. 800427 ID: d57240

Well you solved this mystery and if it comes to it you have some blackmail, but this doesn't really affect how you're going to treat her I assume.
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No. 800428 ID: 3ce125

>>800426
How do we know this is even true? The Iso we found in her room could have lied. Is there a way to prove someone is from a specific cycle? I mean, this could be a honeypot- make it look like you have blackmail material on her when it's actually worthless. On the other hand, she's already built up a good reputation. Attempting to blackmail her with this would backfire. Not much point in lying about herself like this, except to garner sympathy.

Ask her for her side of the story. Or rather, more of the story, since we have just one sentence of the story. She still seems to have a good relationship with her cycle's Iso. That was him we saw earlier, right?
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No. 800434 ID: 3abd97

Well, if there's anyone who understands that we are better than our worst moments, it should be me.

My Alison might appreciate a talk with you, actually. I know there was a time she was concerned that log reflected something bad about herself, and she might be relieved that you are considerably better than her worst fears. I will understand if you wish to remain incognito, though.

You should probably have Mamba help Iso 2515 locate her Alison. She saw her last, and might have some idea where she went.

We might want to ask a Glitch-kid or Rulekeeper or something later to be sure that's actually her cycle number, but if she's telling the truth and her Iso has already forgiven / looked past what she said, it really isn't our business to dig any deeper.
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No. 800445 ID: 91ee5f

Isn't 1700 the one we all decided to call "Mafia Alison"?
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No. 800452 ID: 3ce125

>>800445
YEP! Our first impression of Mamba was spot on. We had no idea cycle numbers could be faked.

...actually maybe Chief should be real with Mamba for a moment. Put aside the "game". This would be a deep personal issue for her, and it wouldn't be right to try to take advantage of that.
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No. 800454 ID: 430896

Openly question the wisdom of trying to shake off such a reputation by joining a mafia gang.
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No. 800464 ID: db0da2

>>800434
>I know there was a time she was concerned that log reflected something bad about herself, and she might be relieved that you are considerably better than her worst fears.
This might actually be worse. With "mafia Alison" it's easy to brush that log off as being from someone radically different to regular Alison, but Mamba is actually startlingly similar to her, which might rekindle that worry that she could be vindictive and spiteful.
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No. 800465 ID: 83b227

Alright, first, you and Mamba should find Iso 2515's Alison and reunite them, quietly and politely as that Alison would probably prefer from what we hear of her. While doing that, you can walk and talk.

Second, tell her that right now, her deception bothers you more. You assume her initial companions are from the same cycle as her? You'd like to hear her story of her cycle, then you'll listen to one of them tell the same story in their words. And then find some unaffiliated person from the same cycle who hasn't been around for all this and tell them too. Just on principle to check that this isn't another layer of illusion.

If all of that works out... well, you've had an unpleasant reputation before, yourself, and you even deserved it once. That log was a bit harsh as "last thoughts before dying" go, but there have been harsh cycles. This world is different from the contest, now. But the two of you will need to come up with some way to bring this out, at least to your own people. You meant what you said about no deception within your organization.

Ask her if she's considered talking to your Alison. She's very understanding, and would probably be happy to help. And... she was the one to start the ideas about 1700, when she was comforting her own Iso in response to reading that log. Is this a rare chance to make your Alison feel a little bit of embarrassment for something?
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No. 800526 ID: bfb318
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800526

"So, you wanted to avoid clashing your reputation as Mafia Alison by... joining a mafia?"
>"I know. Running a school was more important to me than actively trying to avoid some stereotype anyway, but now people might start thinking almost everything about 'mafia alison' was true."
"Speaking of which, what was the relevance of that log, anyway?"
>"Even if I wanted to talk about it, I honestly have no idea. I was told logs were our last remaining thought before total deconstruction, but Glitcher, of course, restored us as we were before any deconstruction took place. I do love my Iso, so not just do I think logs are trash, but that I ended up leaving behind something even worse than trash. And, yes, he, and most of the rest of my group are from 1700 as well, just without tablets."
"I would like to speak to them, Mamba, and perhaps you would like to speak to our Alison, if you would consider it. She is the one who started the ideas about mafia Alison."
>"Oh I have, and it's settled. She felt terrible, but in light of her position at the time, I can sympathize with what she said. I don't like the idea of a public announcement clearing my name, as it will just draw attention to me awkwardly. Plus, as you immediately saw... it's not quite as far off as one would think."
"Hah, I would have listened if you said you were 1700, but after this, you understand why I would lose trust in you, yes?"
>"Of course." she says, sounding disappointed. "I know you and others would have looked fine, but I was concerned about the public. Ask Rulekeeper to verify my cycle, if you think I might still be lying."
"It'd be an odd lie. As for Rulekeeper? This is a game to me, Mamba. I've already decided that summoning Rulekeeper to change rules, or to verify information not otherwise available, is out of the question. Do you actually know where Alison 2515 is?"
>"Yes, and I will bring Iso to her. I have no problems with you asking questions of my team, but can you do me a favor, and still pretend like I'm 2515?"
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No. 800536 ID: 3ce125

>>800526
I'm guessing Iso screwed up somehow during the CAI Fight and seemingly cost Mamba the win. We have no records of the CAI Fight because the RS has no idea what happens during it. The CAI is fully separated from the RS, and the logs can (but don't always) take from events that happen during the fight.

Tell her if it makes her feel any better, it didn't matter if Iso failed during the CAI Fight. It's rigged, they have an iwin button.
Also yeah, you'll keep her cycle number secret, but you expect it will eventually be discovered. Like, none of her friends from her cycle are carrying phones. She's the only one with a 2515 phone. Won't someone figure that out at some point and become suspicious? Also, even if everyone from her cycle is perfectly loyal to her, it would only take an overheard conversation to expose the secret. Or what if someone has a falling out? Granted, even if the secret is discovered, it won't be that bad for her. She's building a good reputation. It will cushion the blow.
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No. 800537 ID: 211d83

As long as the real 2515 is ok with it. It is her identity after all.
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No. 800538 ID: 3abd97

>people might start thinking almost everything about 'mafia alison' was true
It was a cartoonish exaggeration Alison made on the spot to reassure herself and Iso, which I assure you have not lived up to.

>but can you do me a favor, and still pretend like I'm 2515?
Of course. I would much prefer to treat you as the person I've come to know than rather than a fiction.

And I certainly understand having something of a dastardly past.
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No. 800539 ID: 7397ab

If 2515 agrees I will keep your secret. But I would suggest you come clean now. We could be alive for a very long time you know. And the longer your deception continues the harder it will be to come clean.

I will leave the choice up to you. If you want to hide your identity I will forget what I have learned. But if you decide to come clean my team will support you all the way.

It's not like you have much to hide from. Your last thought was probably of Iso dying right before you in a rigged battle you could not win with the Cai. It only looks bad due to the system saving a particularly embarrassing though that flashed through your head right as you died.
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No. 800545 ID: 83b227

Only if Alison 2515 is still alright with it, after she's told about her Iso trying to find her.

Tell Mamba, even if she doesn't recall the last moments that led to that log, it seemed to be one that heavily implied a history behind it - "stop failing" indicates multiple counts of failure - that she should have some idea of. If it was a real log - wasn't there some suspicion at one point that logs were being altered? For all we know that log was implanted by someone with the specific purpose of driving a wedge between Alison and one of her most consistent allies. You don't want to invoke Rulekeeper to solve your problems, but it would be understandable if Mamba wanted to ask for them to check it for any signs of tampering, and you should suggest it to her as a possibility. Her reputation isn't a game to her.

In any case, tell her you'd still like to hear how her cycle went, what her way of doing this was and some of her dramas, as far as she can remember. And you can quietly search around for another 1700 to talk to and cross-reference that with.

>logs were our last remaining thought before total deconstruction

Chief, wasn't there one of you whose log was telling the other logs they only got one message and to not waste it? It's impressive that someone could get so worked up over something like that that it was their final thoughts.
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No. 800631 ID: a43366

No reason not to, unless she ends up giving you a reason.

This does raise questions about how many tablets she's managed to smuggle since she keeps in contact with other people in her gang constantly and assuming she began her gang with the core being people from her session how she managed to raise her patsy's so quickly is interesting.
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No. 800860 ID: bfb318
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800860

"You're aware people will find out eventually?"
>"Yes, and I wouldn't want to keep up the deception forever. I just hope to have a good and well known reputation by then."
"Then if the real 2515 Alison is fine with it, then it's hardly any of my business. And for the record, my Alison's interpretation of 1700 was almost childishly cartoony. You haven't lived up to it at all."
>"Funny. I was told that, too."
"As for your log, there has been suspicion that logs were altered. We know it's possible. So keep that open as one of the possibilities in your head. Even if it's trash - no, especially because it's probably trash - tell me about your cycle."
>"Mm, another time, Chief. It's not a quick story, even if it's a familiar one, and we both have things to do."

Chief does recall one of his own previous logs simply telling other people to stop wasting their logs. Although there is a pinch of pride knowing that that was probably one of the more useful logs out there, there's something humorous, he finds, in getting so worked up that such a thing was that cycle's most permeating thought.
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No. 800862 ID: bfb318
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800862

At Chief's request, he tags along with Mamba just to confirm that 2515's Iso does meet him, and everything is in order before he travels back.

Other 1700 ex-residents are contacted and spoken to. Mamba's Duelist has story that lines up well under Chief's questions.

Iso, too, is requested to enter Chief's new office.

"Hello, Iso."
>"Hi."
"I've become aware that Black Mamba is actually Alison #1700, is that correct?"
>"Yes, I'm aware you're aware."
"Right. And your cycle?"
>"Also 1700."
"I've been hoping to hear the story of cycle 1700. Duelist doesn't seem confident in his own story telling capabilities."
>"... if Alison doesn't want to tell you herself, I'm not going to, either."
"Are you sure it's not just that she doesn't have the time to?"
>"You know that she's going to betray you, right?"
"Come again?"
>"I don't know what she told you before, but nothing amused her as much as when we were first resurrected and found out that she already had a reputation as a gangster. It doesn't match up perfectly, and she is a good person deep down, but she also is underhanded and manipulative. I won't explain all of 1700, but like how your Alison dealt with you, my Alison got used to getting under the foot of people stronger than her, and climbing to the top until she was in charge. Now, here, she thinks this is some kind of game. I'm half surprised she didn't change her form to 'mafia' Alison and start talking like a gangster for fun."
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No. 800863 ID: 3d2d5f

>"You know that she's going to betray you, right?"
I assumed as much the first night we met, although she's been careful enough not to leave unambiguous proof.

She's right, though. This is a game, and having a valuable but treasonous and ambitious underling is part of the game.

Why tell me, though? Guilt? Are you looking for turnabout perhaps- to show her up or impress her by playing the game yourself and betraying her?
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No. 800871 ID: f08985

>>800862
"She's right, and that's part of it. Trying to be a spoilsport, heh?"
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No. 800877 ID: f15bf8

Even if thats a positive for you theres no need for Iso or her to know you want that to happen. Its probably better to act overconfident in case he tells Alison this while you make plans to get her permanently under your thumb/wing thing.
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No. 800881 ID: db0da2

So why are you telling me all this?
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No. 800893 ID: 211d83

(Yeah we knew that she was probably going to "betray" us and honestly we wanted her to to make things more fun. But don't tell him we are also having fun with this game. So play along and don't let him know you recruited her just because you wanted a worthy adversary. If we play dumb we can see what this Iso's game is.)

Well that is disturbing news. So why exactly are you telling me this?
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No. 800896 ID: bfb318
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800896

"Interesting, but why are you telling me this?"
>"Because deep down, she really does just want to help people, and running a school like this suits her fine. Trying to take over your gang like this... doesn't suit her. I don't want her to lose her school over a game. I think you think this is some kind of game too, so... I guess I just want to say that if things come to blows, and you come out on top, please let her keep something."
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No. 800899 ID: 3d2d5f

>>800896
He's right, of course. The school does more social good than any of the gangs, and Guitar Knight is probably the only one taking these conflicts seriously.

You do have two ways to secure that yourself, Iso. You could try to make sure she wins, so she's not in a position to lose anything except to herself and new priorities. Or... you make sure she loses. Keep her from damaging what she has in pursuit of something else.

(Yes, try to recruit Iso as a double agent).

((...while knowing this is a trick Mamba could have arranged to hedge in case she loses, or to place her Iso as a triple agent, playing on our predisposition to believe he will "fail" her)).
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No. 800901 ID: 3ce125

>>800896
Tell him that this had better not be some kind of trick. If it is, it's gonna stop being a game, because if she's leveraging your good will against you, that's something you'd take personally. Also, he has the wrong impression of your business. It started as a criminal organization, that's true, but now it's more like a police force under the guise of a criminal organization. If Mamba takes over, she could easily mold it into something that suits her. He has nothing to worry about.

So, no. If she wins, she'll completely take over and leave you nothing but scraps. The stakes must be of equal value on both sides for the game to be fair. Unless, he has something to offer you as a contingency if you lose? If he has a backup plan that would work for you, then how about we make it official? Summon Rulekeep in that case. If both sides are seeking an agreement like this, then we'd better have a third party witness and legitimize it. Otherwise it's an empty promise.
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No. 800928 ID: 91ee5f

>>800896
"Well, duh. Obviously, this is a game. If we actually were doing things that would hurt anyone, then the literal gods of our world would come down here and tell us to knock it off. And I'd let her keep her school, since it was her idea in the first place."
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No. 800946 ID: 83b227

Hmm. If you set up some system by which you could be formally challenged, and make that easier/more profitable than any other method (for example, guaranteeing smooth transition of power instead of rebellion/civil war with older loyalists), then any attempt to usurp you through that system wouldn't ruin the reputation of whoever attempted it, because they're just doing what they're "allowed" to do. Plus, you would make any rivals you have more predictable and be able to prepare better for challenges.

Like, if you formally set up a circle of underbosses below yourself, then you could for example make it a vote system. A challenger needs two supporters to make a challenge and then needs a majority of the remaining bosses to vote for them. That makes it into a game of winning favour in your organization... which is basically what would need to be done anyway, but this way it's more organized (and the loser just gets demoted down to replace the one who goes up, and can try again). All sorts of dirty tricks would still be possible in winning/losing votes, of course, but it'd make the whole thing cleaner.

You might also consider the longer game of making Mamba more comfortable with her position, or alternately more uncomfortable with moving against you, to curb her ambition. For example, you could "helpfully" assist her in building the new reputation she says she wants so much, by having high-society events where she gets to show herself around and be more of a celebrity (though of course you'll have to play the game of ensuring your position remains dominant). The more her reputation for trustworthiness builds the more she has to lose by being untrustworthy. Give her the chance to enjoy the benefits of a good reputation and she should become more invested in keeping it.

You might also consider subtly creating a rumour that she is actually Alison 1700. There are enough people who know that it could have spread from any of several sources. So long as it's presented as something uncertain, it won't detract too much from her reputation-building efforts, but it will open people's minds enough to put them on watch for any mafiaesque behavior, and she'll have to be more careful. The only thing you'd need to watch for is that someone might just up and ask her if she's 1700, which would cause problems, and I'm not sure how to prevent that. So, it's just a suggestion.
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No. 800955 ID: fc33ea

You need a nuclear option. If you can't run the gang, nobody can. Let Mamba know about it if she starts getting ambitious.
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No. 800959 ID: a43366

>>800955
That wouldnt be a detterent as she could just rebuild her own gang. It also reeks of taking your ball home when you lose.
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No. 800961 ID: bfb318
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800961

"And if she wins?"
>"She's still an Alison, at heart. You won't be left with nothing, just like your Alison came to work with you."
"Yet, by your own account, you say she intends on betraying me."
>"... I don't know how to convince you that she won't betray you in a way that will leave you with something."
"Do you have any offer as a contingency?"
>"Not... that isn't just my word, but you're just giving your own word too, aren't you?"
"From your perspective, I suppose that's true. You sound like you want her to focus on your school, don't you?"
>"Yes."
"Then be an agent for me. Alert me to anything she'll do."
>"Okay."
"And you are right, this is a game, so I expect some manner of sportsmanship. If it weren't, the gods themselves would intervene, but since it is, they will leave us to it, and so I will leave them out of it."

Iso leaves Chief to find that the situation is getting somewhat complicated.
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No. 800964 ID: bfb318
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800964

More time begins to pass, and Guitar Knight doesn't help simplify matters. As though he can do nothing but leech off of the entrepreneurship of others, he begins siphoning off graduates by creating his own little projects. He lets would-be shopkeepers go into his territory to start their own shops, and perhaps encouraged by not needing to pay protection fees, are able to sell for cheaper.

This does cut into Chief's own ability to collect protection fees, as shops start to claim that they no longer have the business to pay for it.

Scanner reports that Guitar Knight is starting to branch out from the protection business to creating a different sort of society, one that runs more on goodwill and communal interests than gaining tickets. His propaganda starts talking about how Chief's rewards of tickets is soulless and has created unfair situations, and how his society will create workers for the common good, where everything is for, and by, the people. Chief begins to wonder if Guitar Knight is familiar with the term 'communism', but doubts this. He expects Guitar Knight is unaware of the things he is setting in motion.

Guardsman, apparently, is becoming increasingly difficult to control, and wants to smash something.

Chief has an idea to match Guitar Knight's actions, as well as solving.

"Succubus, I'd like to start a rumor that Mamba is Alison 1700. Just a seed of it, nothing overt."
>"Oh, there already is. I can have it gain traction, if you want."
"No, this is fine for now. I have something bigger in mind anyway. At this rate, Mamba is to overthrow me. Normally I could combat this fire with more fire, but this is going to lead to a drawn out power struggle."
>"Probably. Is that a problem?"
"It's boring is what it is. Right now, the gang is more of a loose organization with me only supposedly at the top, but the fluidity of our presence just means that either I stay vigilant at the top, or fade away slowly. There is little that can truly stamp me out to nothing. And what I want far, far more than to win, is to have closure. Win or lose, I want it to be decisive. Therefore, I must evolve this gang into something more rigid. Something that even if we still call a 'gang', is in actuality more of an established government. I must be indisputably at the top. I'm speaking rather abstractly, are you following me?"
>"I think I get what you're saying, though you make it sound more complicated than it has to be. You'd like a monarchy? A dictatorship, perhaps."
"Yes. It doesn't matter too much, but I must be indisputably at the top, and removal of being at the top would be catastrophic for me. I see two options. One is that I keep things more or less as they are, but set it up so that people in the gang are loyal to me and me alone. This will mean that removing me from power, or challenging my power, will create a terrible schism, hopefully one which has no clearly drawn battle lines, and therefore ends in one clear winner and one clear loser. The second option is create a disconnect between myself and the power of the gang. A throne, that is. The throne's power will be the power of the gang, and that can wax and wane, but he who is at the top of the throne will control it absolutely. That way, if I am removed from the throne, I am removed absolutely."
>"Removed by force, or by vote?"
"Hmmm... by vote may be most difficult for me to survive against, while by force would imply that I consider myself the absolute ruler, here to stay forever. Allow me to ramble and think to myself for a moment. The two original options of either me as the indisputable leader, or the throne as the seat of the indisputable leader, have only subtle differences. The former would be drawing battle lines between those loyal to me and those who are not, and I would be declaring myself the law, the gang, and everything it rules. It would be a big ego move, and would offput many people who think that I am here as some kind of benevolent person representative of people's wants, rather than a megalomaniac.
"The latter option, the throne, would allow me to treat the gang as its own entity that I just happen to be the ruler of. The throne itself must have absolute power over the entire gang either way, so that Mamba is forced to pursue the throne instead, rather than treating her school as its own faction to slowly overshadow the rest of the gang. Again, either option for this is subtle, as both involve forcibly glueing the gang together, declaring the ruler absolute, and saying that ruler is me. The challenge here is that if I just blindly and forcibly unify the gang under a single entity, such that any independent action or outright disobedience could rightfully be called treasonous, it would look like a petty display of dominance on my part, transparently looking like I fear that Mamba is eclipsing me. To veil my intentions, I would need a convenient excuse, some sort of external threat, that makes the gang seem threatened to the point that it must unite or be conquered in some manner. I apologize, I realize I'm rambling, and there may be plenty of other options entirely, but the point all returns to the fact that if I am removed from power, I must be removed absolutely."
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No. 800969 ID: db0da2

I like the throne option, it gives Mamba a better prize to aim for, and it gives us a better chance of winning. I'd suggest sending people to assist the growth of the Union of Guitar Knight's Socialist Businesses, but they seem to be doing fine on their own. Instead we might hire some agitators to create a push on their side to take over the rest of the city, and maybe run a few false-flag operations as an excuse to escalate the conflict.
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No. 800972 ID: 3abd97

If Mamba and Guitar Knight are slowly making progress in the status quo, perhaps it's time to shake things up. Cause chaos. Disrupt careful planning that has been slowly coming to a head, and force them to adapt with less time to plan.

Big things. Provoke a war with the lawful faction, and/or the other criminals? Send Murdermouse on her bombing spree to stir up trouble indiscriminately? Force Mongrel back into the picture? Have Scanner and Guardsman spring the betrayal / schism in the hero faction?

Maybe let Mamba seize control... right as the "heroes" come storming in to take down whoever's in charge. Set her up to take the fall for your crimes. Having just made her play for power, she won't have countermeasures prepared for the consequences of that, if you have them ready to spring quickly enough.

We've spent a while setting a bunch of plates spinning. Let's see what happens and who's left standing when they start crashing into each other.

(We could one-up Mamba's Alison impersonation game- ask our Alison to make a dramatic appearance as the real "Mafia Alison" 1700 to further throw things into chaos and confuse Mamba's own forces with a false flag game. She'd never see that coming, and as a long term bonus, after the ridiculous stunt was over, it would pretty much kill any lingering Mafia Alison stigma).

>throne
We are playing mobsters, you could invent some kind of Maltese Falcon plot McGuffin to be fought over for status. All you have to do is pretend it's important to you and it becomes a target for your rivals.
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No. 801021 ID: a43366

One of the ways you could force the issue is by appointing or beginning to groom some kind of successor. That would If you made your job something attainable normally you can isolate the most ambitious from your own group and force people who want to just overthrow you to force their hand because a tangible successor in the gangs eyes might make their chances less likely if they were to get rid of you as it would pass to the successor.

Doing this now while your power is still high is probably the best time, which can dovetail with you either sabotaging Guitar Knights communist collective (with plants who will fuck it up or some other way) or infiltrating the city center.

I guess this feeds into the throne option, but if you manage to get a successful successor who will last that might be a concrete win.
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No. 801030 ID: 6dc8e5

I mean, if Guitar Knight is accidentally inventing communism, you could start extolling the virtues of a free market system and unify a government based on that. Seems like it lends itself more to the throne thing, which is probably the more favorable option anyway.
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No. 801033 ID: 3ce125

>guardsman wants to smash
I wonder if he'd be a competent spy in Mongrel's forces? Maybe Scanner could suggest the idea to Guitar Knight. Can't come back to bite us in the ass either way. I mean, he's not even aware Scanner is a double agent, right?
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No. 801035 ID: 03f010

I'm in favor of the throne option too.
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No. 801036 ID: bfb318
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801036

"I've got it. A successor. I don't know why I didn't think of it already. That way, I can still get out of this game when I feel like it, and still have 'won'."
>"Oh, yeah! That might help making it seem like it isn't a power play, although there's no reason why you ever have to pass on the torch, so..." Succubus trails off, leaving Chief to fill in the rest.
"It isn't perfect for the game, no, but it may help. I've decided on making my office chair the throne, but I have no idea who I would declare my successor." Chief says, then making a call. "Scanner, are you there?"
>"Yeah, what's up?"
"I think it's about time to spring something. You work with guardsman to get a brawl going. Try to push Guitar Knight to either fight for territory, and make a mutiny if that fails. How soon can that happen?"
>"Ehhh... tomorrow evening? Maybe? The water here's at a steady roll, but it doesn't feel like we'd have an easy time boiling things over by just suddenly stirring things up ourselves. If we're lucky, Mongrel will hit us again and we can act like we're tired of just chasing him and only him."
"What if I make a push into your territory?"
>"That'll work! Then we can push back, then insist on pushing back harder. Uh, if that's what you want?"
>"It is. We'll make a push at, or a little later, after mid-day. And right now, I will send some agents of my own to GK's side, and they will act like they're malcontents of mine. They'll help you to push back." Chief says, hanging up.
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No. 801037 ID: bfb318
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801037

Murdermouse is called next.

"What's up?"
"I'd like to pull a favor."
"What are you, my manager? I don't owe you anything!"

....

"Okay okay just kidding, what do you need?"
"I need chaos. I want you to go on some bombing runs. Try to hit at random. The school, the gang, GK's... whatever he's got going on now."
"I can do that! When?"
"Tomorrow, noon. Also, get your Sweatermice team to try and make it seem like it's an act of conquest, not just some raid. Take over a few shops or something, try to make it seem like you want a slice of the pie."
"Uhhhh that's kind of - wait am I going to be hurting people?"
"No, Mouse, this is still a safezone. It's a safezone that is still quickly bored of the status quo. You'll make the day more interesting."
"Well okay!"
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No. 801039 ID: bfb318
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801039

Chief admits he could put more thought into timing things appropriately, but at this point, he just wants to start spinning all the plates and see what happens.

Pepper is then called.

"I need a favor. I want Mongrel back as an independent party, rather than a Guitar Knight exclusive."
"What do you need me to do?... also why?"
"The what is easy, I think. Just try to recruit him. Send an anonymous letter, have a new shape not known as pepper, something, just as long as he thinks it's us inviting him, and as long as no one can point to who tried to recruit him. Certainly not me. As for the why? Excuses, that's why."
>"Got it, I... well, I got the 'what', and I don't care about the 'why' enough to think hard. How about the when?"
"Tomorrow, just a bit before noon."
>"Alright."

If for some reason some of this fails, Chief can just send Guardsman after Mongrel and see what happens.

Chief has a few other potential ideas.
>Have Mamba take over just in time for everything to come crashing down on her
This is tricky, Chief thinks, as it involves keeping the gang's structure weak enough so that when he springs the trap on the newly throned Mamba, she can't stop it. Yet the gang must also be strong enough such that it won't be completely crushed by whatever threat removes Mamba from power, so that Chief can declare her unsuitable and regain the throne. There are many ways something like this could go down.

>Have the current Alison pretend to be Mafia Alison
Chief finds this tempting, and all things considered, he would not be surprised to see Alison agree. It helps that he could convince Alison that such a stunt would kill any Mafia Alison stigma.

This is expected by Chief to be most effective if done right after it comes out that Mamba is from 1700. Therefore, to time it, Chief would need to let the truth spill all over the floor, which is a mess Mamba must clean up.

>Extol the free market as a government
Chief will spend some time conceptualizing a rival sort of government against what GK is making, as best as he can, considering that GK has little concept of government founding. Anything that arises out of GK's actions will be pure accident, and likely a bastardization of any real governments that exist.

Aside from deciding to enact any of these ideas or entirely new ones, Chief is about ready to lie back and see what happens tomorrow.
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No. 801044 ID: 24cd2b

>>801039
I'm against fully doxxing Mamba before she makes her move. The rumor idea was already a bit sketchy...
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No. 801072 ID: 3d2d5f

Hear anything from Iso 1700 yet? Can't be sure he's really trying to help you curb her or if Mamba sent him as a plant, but worth paying attention to, at least.

>>801036
Succubus looks devious, there. I wonder if she's considering a "betray you for your own interest" play like you alluded to before.

>I don't care about the 'why' enough to think hard
It's like the long game before, only nowhere near as bad. Shaking up the pieces to see what happens. How well the players can handle it. How I handle it. Sometimes the most interesting move is to flip the board. It's a game, Pepper, and I've put having fun before ruthless victory at all costs.

>keeping the gang strong and ready to fall appart is hard
Yup!

>>801039
>most effective if you leak it
It would be less effective not to out Mamba, but have "Mafia Alison" enter the fray accusing Mamba as stealing her shtick, or wanting to be top mobster, or something similar. It's pulling the punch a little at the cost of not crossing the line of betraying a confidence.

Also, there's the possibility someone will make the independent accusation when things go down. Your rivals aren't all idiots, and it wouldn't be hard for someone else to find out as you did, or not follow your self imposed rule and ask one of the Glitchkeepers.
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No. 801114 ID: a43366

You might want to see if you can get spyware on people's tablets to spy on them and check if anyone's bugged yours or your people.
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No. 801117 ID: 3d2d5f

>>801114
Spyware probably isn't feasible given that safe zone "tech" is all magic. There's no code or underpinnings to exploit. Just like Engineer couldn't alter a lamp in the slightest without making it a non-lamp that stopped working, and there was no wiring or electronics inside to make it work. The simulation is doing all the heavy lifting, the object is just an access point.

I mean, unless someone specifically requested Rulekeeper to generate them modable? Or someone asked one of the Glitchkeepers for a spying tool.

(Convential spying with body mods is probably easier: disguise people as objects, or really small forms for sneaking and hiding).
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No. 801123 ID: a43366

>>801117
That's a good point. Could someone get a super small body mod with wings and then use that to spy on people or are there limits?
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No. 801130 ID: bfb318
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801130

>Spyware, spies
Since Glitcher re-introduced the town, components of construction and items have been broken down into lower levels to allow for the modification of items, even things like lightbulbs, and doors. The tablets, however, are seemingly impenetrable in of themselves, and are meant as a bastion of personal privacy.

While spying is assisted by getting a small body, there are still minimum and maximum allowances of sizes for contestants. The most applicable means of spying are static objects like cameras, audio bugs, and so on, and those aren't that small.

R&D thinks they're close to weaponizing a teleport of some sort.

>Iso 1700?
Chief has kept in contact with him, but as far as he can tell, Mamba doesn't appear to be planning anything big, and is just aggressively running her school.

>Effectiveness of when to pull out Mafia Alison
Chief will refrain from forcing a revelation that Mamba is 1700, but this will not stop him from introducing a mafia Alison. If he does, this would likely help remove suspicions from her, and it would be up to her to decide if she wants to either roll with that, or prove she's 1700 by summoning her own tablet to herself. There are some details that may need working out, but first of all, Chief has to decide if he even wants to ask his Alison to play as Mafia Alison.

Once deciding this, Chief will streamline and micromanage various aspects of his businesses in preparation for tomorrow.

Create a Mafia Alison to enter tomorrow's fray? y/n
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No. 801131 ID: 211d83

Yes
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No. 801157 ID: 3abd97

>>801130
Having a second Mafia Alison crash the chaos in the middle is too good to pass up.
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No. 801158 ID: fc33ea

call up every Alison you can find and convince them all to be mafia Alison
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No. 801241 ID: 094652

>>801158
This, but tone it down to like a thousand email requests.
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No. 801247 ID: d36af7

>>801158
Going to go with the classic "No, I'm Spartacus!" or try to engineer it into some sort of 'real Slim Shady' flash-mob dance party?
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No. 801261 ID: 83b227

Only Opera Alison has the gravitas to play a truly convincing mafia boss.
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No. 801316 ID: bfb318
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801316

Chief will introduce Mafia Alison.

His own Alison, he thinks, may be a stretch to properly perform as Mafia, even if she did agree. However, sending out email requests to hundreds or thousands of Alisons would result in many takes. Chief simply does not have the time for auditions, nor does he need a few hundred Mafia Alisons to crop up overnight. He's like events to be chaotic, but still cohesive in the end. Therefore, he will approach Opera Alison to perform.

"Hello, this is Chief, present cycle."
>"Hello, this is the Alison better known as Opera Alison. You're the one who's been making a ruckus in town, aren't you?"
"That's correct."
>"Well let's get down to it, I'm sure you didn't just call me to have a chat with a random Alison?"
"That's right. Have you heard of Mafia Alison?"
>"I sure have. It's just an imaginative construction of cycle 1700, isn't it?"
"Yes. The current events around town could use a Mafia Alison."
>"Are you asking me, Chief, to become a gangster and run amock in town like an urban brigand?"
"I am."
>"I love it, but you're not trying to recruit me to be under you, are you?"
"No. The opposite. I want another faction in the mix. Tomorrow, around mid-day, there will be events that may lend themselves to opportunists."

She laughs.

>"Deary, I hope you know what you're asking. I won't play nice. If I play as Mafia Alison, I will do so correctly, and I won't rest until either you're under my tail or you're out on the streets without so much as a crumpled up ticket. Are you sure you want me to enter your game?"
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No. 801319 ID: 7397ab

Isn't she the one Radmin was nervous around? What is Opera's story exactly? Having a crazy method actor get involved in this mess could be good or bad.
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No. 801320 ID: 211d83

I thought the idea was to let our Alison live out a silly act of what she thought "Mafia" would be like.

Opera seems a bit intense.
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No. 801321 ID: 0b99d7

>>801316
The joy's in the adversity, come join the wild ride.
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No. 801322 ID: bfb318
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801322

Chief realizes that as he caught up in selective theoretics and impressions, he immediately went to a past Alison instead of present Alison.

Looking at Opera Alison, now, Chief is getting second thoughts.

>Keep going, choose Opera Alison as Mafia
>Back out, get Present Alison to be Mafia
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No. 801323 ID: 3d2d5f

I found the idea of Alison-Alison acting absurdly out of character and breaking the myth she started to be the appealing thing, really. (And maybe taking herself a little of the pedestal she's found herself on, being the Alison who "won").

Just adding a new rival willing to beat you would add chaos, and maybe Opera might even be able to play the part better, but it's missing something.
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No. 801324 ID: 211d83

Opera Alison seems like a decent opponent but I think she might be a bit intense for this game. It might become less of a game if she gets involved.

Get ours to help.
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No. 801325 ID: 7397ab

Creepy eyes here seems like she would take things a bit to far.

And her going over the top might mess up Mamba's chance at changing herself.

I like our Alison for the job. She will be delicate about things while still having fun.
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No. 801326 ID: fc33ea

Ask both, for maximum lulz.
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No. 801330 ID: 4854ef

Get opera! Let's get this dance on the road!
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No. 801331 ID: ca5b6a

>Keep going, choose Opera Alison as Mafia
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No. 801333 ID: e22b1d

Our Alison seems best.
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No. 801334 ID: 83b227

>Looking at Opera Alison, now, Chief is getting second thoughts.

What, you can't handle the heat?

Look, she's opera Alison. You know what that means? Theatrics. Drama! People disguised as other people, entangling with other people disguised as other people who think they're the person they're disguised as! Insane plot twists in the final act! This mafia alison disguise gossip gambit is perfect for her. Now that she knows about it I'd half suspect she'll toss her hat in the ring anyway!

And remember - she'll give everyone else in the game something to deal with, too. As the man on top, and being forewarned, you'll be best equipped to resist Operalison's entry. Everyone else, Mamba included - they'll have a much harder time.

Tell her that you'll take her, but that you were thinking of multiple mafia alisons, just a few, so she should keep one of her lovely eyes on her back as well as on you.

Then contact your Alison and ask if she wants to join in. Either way, then, you'll have something to go for.
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No. 801335 ID: 87547f

Get normal Alison for the role.

But hire Opera to perform at the endgame party for whoever wins.
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No. 801337 ID: 799bc9

This sounds hilarious, go with Opera.
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No. 801338 ID: 90f3c0

Go with Opera for maximum chaos.
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No. 801343 ID: 3ce125

>>801322
One Alison working directly against you is already tough to handle. We don't need two! Go with Present Alison.
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No. 801350 ID: 03f010

Operas don't end well, but that's part of their charm. Pick Opera Alison.
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No. 801356 ID: 19da11

Normal sounds good. Plus we might get Sevener as a package deal that way.
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No. 801383 ID: bfb318
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801383

Chief thinks there's merits to both, but just narrowly decides on his own Alison like originally planned.

"On second thought, no, I'm not sure when you put it like that."
>"Understood, then I'll leave you to it! Have a great day, call me if you change your mind."
"Thanks."

Chief heard that Opera seemed out there, but she was even more intense than he anticipated. He may call on her to sing later, but for now, he calls up his own Alison.

>"Hi Chief!"
"Hello, Alison."
>"Where have you been?"
"I've been taking a break by getting my old gang back together and being a gang."
>"Like hanging out gang or like trying to rule the system gang?"
"Both, but mostly the latter."
>"Oh okay, don't be too hard on people!"
"I'm not. Actually, I was wondering, this town could use a Mafia Alison tomorrow around mid-day, to take advantage of some chaotic events scheduled. Can you play the part?"
>"Really? I think that might be okay as long as I don't have to be too rough! Are you sure there's not a better Alison for this? There's a lot out there."
"You're soft, Alison, which is why you're perfect. You'll keep things in perspective."
>"Hmmm... well, I could, but I do have pre-occupations. I still talk to glitcher a lot, you kno-"

Glitcher comes into view.

"Quit being such a softy Alison and wreak terror on the population! I gotta see this!" he says.
>"Are you sure, Glitcher?"
"I'm fine! You go do this thing!"
>"Alright! Chief, is there any way in particular you'd like me to go about this, or some goal in mind, or is this all just to stir up activity around town?"
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No. 801387 ID: 211d83

I want you to have fun with it. Remember back to when you first thought of the mafia version of you? Just go for that.

Over the top acting and being a gruff mobster with your gang of toughs. Get your crew together and dress them up in suits with tommy guns. Heck have Sevener be next to you with a cigar in her mouth.

Burst in on the scene and try your best to take over the whole damn town. As any proper mafia Alison would.

I want you running illegal hootch and getting blackmail on everyone while all the shopkeepers think you are the best thing to happen to them.
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No. 801391 ID: 3abd97

>>801383
Showmanship. You've been a performer again, play to your dramatic instincts. You're supposed to have fun with it.

See how over the top and unbelievable you can be and still get away with it. I thin you'll be surprised how far that will allow.

It should certainly confuse "Mamba's" part in the game to have you impersonating her. The one who's certain you're not real won't be able to call you out on it.

Free free to rope Iso or anyone else you want into your "gang". I think you may find it cathartic.
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No. 801395 ID: 83b227

>Chief thinks there's merits to both, but just narrowly decides on his own Alison like originally planned.

Chief I have to ask you a question.

Now this question has a particular meaning related to your decision but it is also apropos to you yourself in a particular way, to a degree which I wonder might mean it has been asked before, and may in fact be an insensitive question to ask you which may bring up memories of others who have asked it, the situation it was asked in, or just generally be upsetting or more likely merely annoying to you. Yet I must.

The question is this:

are you a chicken???
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No. 801434 ID: 91ee5f

>>801383
>"Quit being such a softy Alison and wreak terror on the population! I gotta see this!"
Just make a joke about how your god has just asked to be entertained and Alison can't say no anymore or Glitcher might smite us!

I can just imagine that Glitcher will bring his family and some popcorn to eat while they watch everything that's going to happen tomorrow like it was a movie or something! XD
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No. 801445 ID: bfb318
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>Is Chief a chicken?
Chief has no fear of difficult competition, but the game turning into anything more serious than an excuse to play as a theatrical bad guy is a legitimate concern.

"Have fun with it. Have some showmanship trying to take over the whole town. Entertain your buddy gods. Invite your own gang and include Sevener if you like."
>"Okay, I'll do my best. Tomorrow, mid-day?"
"Or earlier if you want to get started, but opportunity will knock tomorrow."
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No. 801446 ID: bfb318
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801446

Chief hangs up and spends several hours preparing for tomorrow, where he will organize some teams to push in on GK's territory.

At about 6 AM the next morning, he receives a call from Gnoll.

>"Hey Chief, uh, been seeing a lot of Sweatermice snooping around the inside and outside of shops, taking pictures and bein' weird and suspicious. They aren't singing about what they're doing. How concerning is that?"
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No. 801448 ID: 3abd97

>>801446
>How concerning is that?
Potentially. At least one Sweatermouse is in bed with Radmin. This could be the prelude to a stunt, or some kind of wrestler intervention.
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No. 801463 ID: bfb318
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"At least one Sweatermouse has a soft spot for Radmin. Watch out for any wrestlers looking like they're about ready to make a stunt."
>"Weren't these sweatermice more with that wrestlemouse than the referee mouse?"
"Then watch Murdermouse, too. My point is that this has wrestlling shenanigans written all over it."

Chief continues working without more big calls until about 9 AM, when Scruff calls Chief next.

>"Hey, so I was wandering around the stadium to watch the wrestlers, and you won't believe who's walking around the stadium, turning the underpasses into toll roads."
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No. 801472 ID: 3abd97

Either Mamba has lost all subtly or a dramatic copycat has been inspired.

*musing* ...the mice have a soft spot for Alison, too.

How much territory, and where is she grabbing it? Clashes?
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No. 801492 ID: 91ee5f

>>801472
That's our Alison. Remember, Chief asked her to dress up as Mafia Alison.

Also, don't mention Mamba, we said we'd keep that a secret. So let's not start acussing the "Mafia Alison" that Scruff sees of being Mamba.
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No. 801545 ID: 3abd97

>>801492
I forgot neither. The challenge here is trying to have Chief roleplay reactions that make sense to his followers when he actually knows what's going on.

I didn't mean it as "blowing Mamba's secret" I meant it as "considering the possibility Mamba switched her attack plan from covert to overt". The more trusted minions working with Chief have to be aware he's cautious about her making a move and that they've been sent to do things like watch or subtly sabotage her before.
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No. 801546 ID: bfb318
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801546

"Keep putting an eye on the wrestlers, then. Have you seen any sweatermice?"
>"No, why?" Scruff answers.
"No reason. How much territory does this Alison have?"
>"I guess the whole area underneath the stadium itself. It's the best way to get from one end to the other, and she's making people pay."
"Any clashes?"
>"Not really. She seems to just be talking it over with people, and either they hand her tickets, or they hand her their tablet? I'm not sure what she's doing with them, though. I think I overheard the word 'loans' and 'interest'."
"Alright."
>"Hey, what're you doing hiding back there?!" Mafia Alison yells. Chief's video feed gets lost as Scruff starts running.

Chief knows about debt and interest mechanics, as the functionality exists between someone's tablet and ticket holding pouches. He hasn't introduced fully public loan shark businesses yet, but it seems that Mafia Alison is doing just that.

He supposes it might be nice to know if Mafia Alison isn't gathering territory as much as she's making her operations a more mobile affair, but for now, it doesn't mean much. Attempting to feign his responses and act like he doesn't know what is going on is rather difficult. He simply would like the chaos to begin unfolding more overtly, rather than slowly coming together. His forces are slowly and subtly moving into position to attack GK's faction, though, so he'll at least be able to force some hands.
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No. 801547 ID: bfb318
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801547

Just as he thinks that, the streets below Chief blow up in a deafening boom. The noise is echoed by yells, falling glass, and Chief thinking 'oh good'.

Messages start flying in on Chief's tablet.

Gnoll 3119: Hey some bombs just exploded in GK's shops is that us?
Twirl 3119: Are you in your office and if so look out your window!
Small Lizard 3119: Stadium's arcade just got explosions everywhere.
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No. 801548 ID: 211d83

Looks like Murdermouse just started her rampage.

Well get your gang moving. Work on keeping everyone calm during the chaos to follow and try to make your gang look the best in the public eye while you beat down the other factions.
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No. 801549 ID: 3abd97

The chaos has started, then. To arms! All the factions should be stirred up now.

Idly flip your tablet for media coverage of the bombings. Is MM making a villainous monologue?
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No. 801557 ID: bfb318
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Chief begins communicating. He will, using this influx of messages an an excuse, trim down how many people contact him directly, and instead have his upper team of 4-8 people and have it trickle down the ladder so that not everyone sends their messages straight to the top. He is currently receiving more messages than he can answer, and in the meanwhile, he turns on the television. It doesn't take long for camera worms to start flying through the destruction with a news anchor speaking about how this might have been inevitable with all the gang activity cropping up.

It takes awhile as Chief tries to calm everyone down and just tell them to focus, clean up the damages, and boot any sweatermice out of his territory. He informs Gnoll that the attack on GK is to begin immediately, except that he will disguise the assault as a humanitarian effort to help GK's shops. This will downplay the destruction on Chief's territory, while giving border shops another chance to join Chief.

Pepper will run towards Mongrel immediately to 'attempt' to get him on Chief's side.

Murdermouse finally shows up on television.

>"Greetings, everyone! I hope you all of you outside the stadium liked my presents. I'm sure many people are asking... 'why?' Well let me tell you. When we go to shops, we just want to pick up a lava lamp or a coffee table or some other goofy little thing, but now we constantly have to deal with gangs pestering us or trying to recruit us or so on! Shop owners, you're supposed to be independent, and not have the shoppers constantly be swept up in all these political and drama episodes! That is why I am, from now on, going to attack shops that accept 'protection' from anyone but themselves. And, a personal message to the gang leaders out there... I will attack you so long as you keep sticking your fingers in where it doesn't belong! Keep it to yourselves!"
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No. 801558 ID: 211d83

Ok now you need to "make a example" of anyone who drops protection. But in a way that makes you look good.

Also maybe set up a frame job to have Murder bomb some innocent shopkeepers that are protecting themselves. Then she looks bad and you can get everyone watching a sad shopkeeper crying over his blown up goods.
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No. 801564 ID: e22b1d

Ok thoughts for dealing with everyone.

Murdermouse: Try to get her to blow up some independent shops. Have a gang member shapechange to look like a clueless shopkeeper (with the real one tied up in the back) and have them lure Murder into blowing up there shop. Then get what happened spread around so she looks bad. Repeat as needed. Heck just get some bombs and shapechange goons into look alike's and blow up independent shopkeepers all over. Make her look like a villain.

Mafia Alison: Get word out to Mongrel that a Alison is making a move and says that he is a coward. Find ways of routing traffic away from her area so she can not mug as many people.

Mamba: Watch out for her mobilizing her students. Offer them jobs to help out and attempt to get them confused and in your gang helping settle the chaos.

Guitar knight: Start a propaganda campaign with historical footage of classic communism failures.

Opera Alison: Keep a eye out. She knows whats going on and might join in anyways now.
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No. 801566 ID: 3abd97

>>801557
Hmmm. She's still trying to do the vigilante hero who goes too far thing instead of being a straight up villain. May have the undesirable side effect she ends up bombing you but not GK's faction. (Unless, you know, they decide it's their role to stop bombings, or she decides what they're doing counts as protectionism to be stopped too).

Actually, so far all of your chaos seems to be hitting you. Might be biased by your own perspective, but is any of this blowing up on your rivals? The idea was to flip the board, not just blow yourself up.

Have Mamba and her allies responded at all?
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No. 801578 ID: bfb318
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801578

Mamba appears to be sending out her staff to assist in damage control. Chief directs that and has them disperse evenly so that Chief's crews work alongside piecemeal hobbyists, rather than teams of one or the other.

Scantower reports that guardsman and the other fighters are having a field day throwing sweatermice out of their blocks, confirming that Murdermouse considers GK's shops to still be under protection, even if it's free. Scantower's malcontents are slowly getting the idea to move in on Chief's crew taking advantage of the situation, which so far is working out admirably for Gnoll.

There is no sign yet of Mafia Alison, or for that matter, Opera Alison.

"Succubus." Chief says, calling her up. "I'd like you to trick Murdermouse into blowing up an independent shop, possibly by making her think they bought protection and having someone shapeshift into a shopkeep lookalike. Record her blowing up the shop, and make her look bad. I'll leave the planning and details to you."
>"Got it." she replies.

Guitar knight shows up on the television.

>"Hey, 'mouse! I don't know what's ticking me off more, you blowing up innocent shops, or you thinking that you're doing the world a favor by doing it!"
>"Now who said I was doing any good? I just want things a certain way, and I'm going to make it that way!"
>"So you're a villain then?"
>"Not to the sweatermice, I'm not!"
>"Then on behalf of all non-sweatermice, I challenge you to a ring match, Murdermouse!"
>"Nah."
>"I thought as much, because you're afraid. Afraid that you need your sweatermice to do your work for you, afraid that after your introduction match your stats won't be so easily protective of you, afraid that - "
>"Oh my gosh shut up I'm leaving I have things to blow up!"
>"Run, then, little rodent, I'll hunt you down and have a street match if that's what it takes!"

Gnoll sends a message.
>Hey GK's guys are getting up here - we got a few blocks but if we want to keep these we're going to need a damn lot more people to protect the shops.
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No. 801584 ID: 3abd97

I love the Sweater just refuses to even consider taking GK's drama seriously. (He's the only leader playing this game who isn't playing a game, I think). If this has started turning to wrestling challenges though, that might mean we attract Radmin and some of the other wrestling teams into the chaos.

>we're going to need a damn lot more people to protect the shops
Recruiting more people would certainly be one hell of a way to escalate this conflict into silly proportions, although given the necessary haste, it'll be hard to prevent Mamba (or anyone else) slipping in agents in with the recruits. Granted, she won't have the time to fully work her magic on new people, but we should expect plants.
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No. 801631 ID: bfb318
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It'll be costly, but Chief has enough tickets to recruit directly out of the population, even if it's almost like hiring mercenaries. They may not be loyal, and it may make its own mess, but he won't have to remove people from his own territory to go fight in GK's.

The other wrestlers will likely become aware of the GK-Murdermouse rivalry forming, but there are other concerns to worry about that start developing over the next few hours. Murdermouse evades GK for now, going on bombing runs across any shops. Succubus' agent's store front is hit, and Succubus will start compiling the videos.

The plan with Mongrel goes well, and a few of Chief's stores are hit. Chief has enough territory to take losses, but there is a concern that much of his table flipping will backfire on himself exclusively. However, after the first few hits, Mongrel starts fanning out to other territories, before it becomes apparent that he is tailing Murdermouse. He isn't specifically chasing after her, however, after Murder throws some bombs in, the resulting smoke, fire and chaos makes the shop an easy target for Mongrel to raid afterwards and loot the items that aren't damaged.

Since GK is chasing Murder, Mongrel and GK start butting head frequently.

Gnoll's attack group, bolstered by Chief's mercenaries, are in combat with Scantower and their group of GK malcontents. In the chaos that is safe zone combat, there are no real front lines.

Mamba is beginning to focus on developing a defensive network that will make areas of town more defensible. Chief may want to make sure to introduce the concept of a throne and exercise tight control over his gang to preempt any possible policy introductions that Mamba might include in her proposals.

Finally, Mafia Alison appears to be making a move, although still from the shadows. Atlas' voice message gives her away.

>"Hey, I'm trying to gauge how our shop finances are after the murder sprees. Good news is that over a dozen shops by border territories are able to replenish their stock right away. The downside is that all those shops can only do so because they're in some kind of debt? To the mafia? It sounds new and sounds like they might not even be able to make the next protection payment, that bad of debt. No idea where this mafia operates out of, but apparently they left contact info."
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No. 801634 ID: 211d83

Well there goes Alison taking over everything. To be fair our Alison is the most dangerous one.

Have him track down the mafia and see how there scheme works.
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No. 801635 ID: 3ce125

>>801631
Well we should contact them and find out what their deal is.
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No. 801636 ID: 3abd97

Poor Altas. You can see him thinking "I thought we were the mafia.

It is a clever way to undermine you, unless you're willing to declare the debt null and void and fight off everyone who comes to collect or punish the shops for not paying up. Either way though, you're losing revenue if the shops are paying someone instead of you, or if you're spending to fight off rival debt collectors.
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No. 801643 ID: bfb318
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"Then I suppose I'll just have to contact them and find out what their scheme is."
>"Eh, kinda obvious, isn't it? Shopkeeper can either go in debt to make money back, or not go in debt and make no money with their inventory. Know how half the mechanics here are abstract? Apparently whenever they get paid for something, a chunk of the money poofs off to their loaners. Maybe we should get in on the loan business by now."
"Maybe." Chief says, although a lot of his reserve money is being put to his own boost in staff.
>"'leave you to it, then - hold up. Found a calling card in the rubble. It looks like some kind of cartoon gangster."
"Mafia Alison?"
>"Oh yeah, her. Okay more pressingly apparently like 4 shops have just gone into like, double-debt or something to not just repair their lost goods, but to buy their own protection too. Anyway it's got a number here if you want to give them a call."

Scanner contacts Chief again.

>"Hey, apparently GK's stopped chasing the mouse for now and is with us. He says the time for fighting is now and is diverting a ton of his resources to street fighting, like he's doing a complete 180. Soooo it's not looking good for a mutiny, except this is kind of what the mutiny was going to do anyway so I'm not sure there's a difference? Except that it's getting bigger and we're going to try to push past all your guys out here straight through your territory."
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No. 801651 ID: 211d83

Ok we need to bring our outside groups back into our core areas to defend our shops. If we loose our funding source we can't pay people.

Make sure our shops get the protection they paid for and learn more about the loan scheme going on.
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No. 801658 ID: 3ce125

>>801643
Hey, I have an idea. How about we call up Mamba and ask her if she can get Mafia Allison on our side.
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No. 801659 ID: e22b1d

Questionable loans seems like its the way to go if they attach to the system like that. Once you get them set up its a steady stream of income basically forever. (guessing she got the seed money for loans from her stadium shakedowns?)

You need to protect your interests from this chaos while learning from Mafia and getting into the loan shark game.

Although right now it appears to be culminating into a all out war. So we need to get as many people between us and GK. So our people are not the only ones that get hit.
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No. 801661 ID: 3abd97

>>801643
Hmmmm. Then we need something new for Scanner to rebel against. We need to set Guitar Knight up. Invent a scandal she can use against him. Make him not appear to live up his image- or make it look like he did something terrible to live up to his image. (Or set him up so he actually does something terrible).

One easy way might be sure if we made sure he got some shops destroyed in his intervention.
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No. 801682 ID: 15a025

Look more into getting in the loan game. It seems to be working out pretty well for mafia alison.
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No. 801766 ID: bfb318
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Chief sends a message to gnoll requesting that he put minimal guard forces around advance shop areas, and focus on repelling GK. The resulting mass of people result in the evolution from a street fight to a war. Murdermouse takes advantage of this by freely destroying more shops. Regular sweatermice have run out of bombs that Murder gave them to make a big entrance, but with skeleton guard crews left for both GK and Chief, she's still able to do great damage. This is compounded by Mongrel continuing to fly around like a vulture after Murdermouse escapes.

Although funds will be low to pay off the mercenaries, Chief feels a need to get in on the loan game, if only because if he doesn't, Mafia Alison will have a monopoly on it.

He sends a message requesting that Mamba try to recruit Mafia Alison, and that she wear a camera in her hair for Chief to supervise. This is a risk in case Mamba manages to do something underhanded, but it will keep both of them busy and away from working against Chief.
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No. 801767 ID: bfb318
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The negotiations between Mamba and Mafia take some time.

>"We study the economy too, you know, Mafia Alison." Mamba says. "We could help you, since your debt based clan could use a little education. Do you mind if I call you Mafia Alison, by the way?"
>"There a problem with it?"
>"Oh, no, it's a good name. It really suits you."
>"Yeah, it suits me, since it's exactly who I am. I can tell you're a professor. You study the economy, but out here in the real world, me and my group are the economy." Mafia retorts back. "You'd join us if you realized you were starving yourself in Chief's small pond."

Harsh, Chief thinks.

>"Now don't act like you have my interests in mind. You're just taking advantage of people who think of debt like free money. Once they realize how much they're paying you, they'll realize your manipulative tactics."
>"And that's why I'm already a better teacher than you when it comes to the real world."

These negotiations hardly seem like they're even trying to do anything but smack talk one another, but Chief gets the impression that there may be communication happening outside of what the video camera shows.

The upshot is that Mafia is starting to have a surface level presence, and is recruiting various individuals. Her core team are the usual faces that Alison has known since close or from the beginning, plus various belenosian refugees that Alison has come to know over the years in the RS. Most of her ranks, however, seem to be people who owe her money, which helps ensure loyalty to her. Nonetheless, Chief is able to get a few agents into her ranks, and hopes that their allegiance to Chief outweighs their allegiance to being debt free by feeding Chief information on if there's something going on between the two Alisons.

As a result of her recruiting tactics, many people are beginning to call Mafia Alison's goons 'debtors'. She's handed out loans like cheap candy, and Chief wonders if Alison had a good deal of tickets she used to kickstart her business. Since she entered late in the game, Chief thinks it's within the spirit to give herself a bit of a boost, but she's entered in with a system that benefits from destruction right when everything is going to hell. Chief's resources are taking a hit, and Mafia is going to get runaway success if Chief can't knock her accelleration back.

He will enter the loan game, but he can think of a more ambitious, if risky, way to do it than simply copying Mafia.
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No. 801768 ID: bfb318
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Debts are paid by agreeing that tickets received by a contestant will have a portion immediately whisked off to Mafia's accounts. However, Chief believes that it's possible to bypass this by simply having someone else handle the money that a debtor would otherwise get. NPC shopkeeps can't do this, but contestants can bypass this. Since Chief has a good network of buddies under his protection from any debt collectors, he grabs several loyalists from Chief's camp.

He selects loyalists of his that can have use for many tickets but seldom get it themselves. Goat and Timekeeper are told to take debts from Mafia Alison to buy the best food supplies and kitches that tickets can afford. Gnoll is told to appear desperate to not lose the fight against GK, and takes out huge advance loans to buy more mercenaries. Various contestant shopkeeps will get loans from Mafia to replenish and add to their stock. Every person that isn't too close to Chief but Chief can still trust is gathered to get debts. They are told to get as much debt as they could justify to use. They appear soon after each other to initiate getting massive loans from Mafia.

As time passes and more shops are destroyed, Chief has agents get more and more loans.

Each time an agent gets a loan, they receive a cut from it, but then the rest is dropped straight into Chief's coffers. Then, that agent will never touch a ticket again. At least not until debts are banned by Rulekeep or something like that. Even the shopkeeps will have some of Chief's employees handle the money for them such that they never have a ticket siphoned back off to Mafia Alison. Using this tactic, Chief is able to gather a giant boost in tickets right from Mafia. Chief starts giving money back to Mafia Alison, but not in a friendly manner.

With all of these tickets, Chief has as many agents as he can spare approach as many debtors of Mafia Alison's as they can, all in a short period of time. Chief then has his agents buy off their debt. Specifically, he clears the debt they have towards Mafia Alison, and in return, they now owe Chief interest instead of Mafia, albeit slightly lower rates such that they'll accept the trouble of the transfer.

Not just does Chief transfer much of Mafia's steady income to his own name, but because Mafia's lower ranks were people in debt to her, he's able to reduce her ranks at the same time. During this, Chief makes a grand speech to his gang about unification and loyalty to the gang over himself, creating the concept of the throne.

Word gets back that Mafia Alison has found out about this transgression, and the only reason why she isn't furious, Chief's agents say, is because she has something big in the works to retaliate with.
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No. 801773 ID: 211d83

If you countered Mafia's activities with a loan default scheme she is probably going to up the ante with a even bigger financial ploy. So you need to get into it first.

Thoughts on financial schemes you should get into or be prepared to be hit by.

1. Buying property. If you own the shops you can charge rent. Or use them as collateral. Shopkeepers become employees and such. Can also have lots of scams with real estate. Like selling property you do not own or short selling things. Can also get mortgages and such set up with shady loans.

2. Counterfeiting operations. Print your own tickets. Can also print two qualities of fake money so you can use one and launder it and then pay off you enemies with the substandard currency so you can report them to the heros/police.

3. Copyright infringement. Find the most successful shops and steal there ideas and or product lines. Make your own substandard goods.

4. Labor Racketeering. Set up shopkeeper unions that you control and muscle out non union members. Force workers into your unions if they want work and mess with there projects if they do not join.

5. Tax evasion. There are no taxes to evade so why not start taxing your areas? Make it more like a ruler position.

6. Banking. Make your own legitimate bank with interest rates and loans and everything. Then you can legitimize your funds via laundering them if Rulekeeper steps in. Will be a cover organization for your criminal bank.

7. Raid the sensation shops. Weaponize sensations in your gang wars. Throw flasks of potions that make people feel stuff to confused them during raids and fights. Make your own prohibition era speakeasy's for people to enjoy the good stuff in private.

There are other crimes but these seem like the best to start with. Get these schemes started and get your spies out to counter Mafia's ploys. You want to get a rock solid economic base to deal with any surprises.
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No. 801777 ID: 3abd97

>Chief gets the impression that there may be communication happening outside of what the video camera shows
Tail code? Hair code?

Oh well, even if they team up for something, one will probably betray the other publicly at some point. Mamba has to at least be a little annoyed someone stole her reputation, and Alison is here to fool around and cause a ruckus, which sort of has to mean a confrontation with her mirror image at some point.

>Ripping off the debt scheme
Hahahaha, that worked well.

Though now Alison might be gunning for you instead of messing up your rivals. I guess if we had to we could push Mamba in front of you and let that to to hell?

Rebellion in the heroes faction still seems possible if we rig things so GK gets a bunch of bad press for the collateral damage happening, or if we frame him for going too far and being as bad as or worse than what he's trying to prevent.
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No. 801779 ID: 3ce125

>>801768
You should start using some of your manpower to help repair shops that were destroyed by the bombs. Any shops that cannot pay protection fees any longer can either go into debt or you can just give them a break since your protection kindof failed anyway.

Also, I think it's time to rethink how protection payments are made. Since automatic ticket diversion is possible in the way Alison is doing it, let's implement that on shops. Some percentage of ticket transactions, which on average (assuming business similar to how business was when we started this) adds up to about as much as we've been asking for. Then business can't complain about not being able to afford protection fees, since it's a tax on transactions instead of a flat fee.

Maybe it's time to open peace talks with GK. What does he want out of attacking you? Fair treatment to shops? He's just making it worse by diverting your forces and making it easier for the mice and the mongrel to do their work.
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No. 801788 ID: 91ee5f

>>801768
I've never seen Chief make a face like that before and I find it hilarious! XD
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No. 801793 ID: fc33ea

Alright, you've got two distinct factions now under your control, the Schoolies and the mafia underlings you drew in. How coherent are the factions? You may need to start playing them off each other, keep them competing to stay in your favor so they don't get busy plotting against you.

>>801773
I'm liking these ideas.
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No. 801824 ID: e22b1d

Watch for clever criminal things she can do that might not have had a system until recently.

Like what if she robbed the bank that had all your stored tickets? Sure they should be all abstract but someone has to run that system and what if she suggested to Glitcher that it be a actual place in town?

She could bankrupt everyone in one fell swoop.

You know how the wrestling thing got crazy popular? What if you bribed some wrestlers to throw some matches and bet heavily on the outcome? But take care because it might end up with both sides getting bribed to throw a match.

Or we could sponsor a wrestler. Pay them a fee to have them wear your logo so your shops/bank/legitimate businesses get more traffic. Heck put up billboards and start advertising so that your part of town is the place to be.

Get someone in on the news network. So you can spread propaganda and make yourself look good. Get some of Mamba's students that like acting and have them make the best new show that is on your network only. So you can get sweet advertising tickets.
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Chief has had several ideas on the backburner, and has the logistics designed for implementing many ideas at once. Even with the war going on, he has ways to impliement all of these ideas, and so he decides that it's time to go nuts.

In the name of universal protection, he will simply start charging rent to those staying within his territory. Extra protection for high-value targets, more commonly known as 'shops', still have to pay extra protection fees, which will be made in the form of commercial taxation by having a certain amount of tickets siphoned off per transaction.

Alongside gang unification, Chief organizes workers into a work collective, or perhaps as is referred to in various business books he's read, a union. This will publicly be known as a committee fighting for worker's rights and other things, but what is actually going to happen is that Chief will set up a system that ostracizes and kicks out workers not within the unions.

Chief will make his own banks. By this point, Chief has ways to spend money to make money, so by encouraging people to save up money and gain their own interest income over time, Chief can boost his own money stores and make more money faster than what he has to pay out in interest to his customers. As long as not everyone wants to suddenly pull out all their money at once, Chief won't have to explain why it's okay to spend money that people store in the bank.

A much more dangerous way to create money is to counterfeit them. He has extremely confidential designs for a counterfeiting operation. With the right equipment, printing money becomes trivial. He can use it in a pinch, but the more he would use it, the more the technology risks being leaked to others.

His income is booming enough as it is, somehow. He thinks his name could use more positive reinforcements, as well as the brands under his name. Hence, he will make a rather unorthodox move.
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He begins to taint the pure name of wrestling and television. He gets his own newscaster to broadcast what Chief would like to broadcast during off hours.

>"Hey, all you spectators at home!" Radmin's voice narrates as he performs various activities, turning to the camera every time he speaks. "You may remember me from that time that I trounced every single opponent I've ever met. Have you ever found yourself wondering, 'what does Radmin do in between matches?' As it turns out, a lot - and it's all thanks to Chief's grand skyscraper! With casinos, banks, arcades, schools, shops and living quarters all in the same building, what are you even doing with your lives if you aren't there? Come on down and learn what it feels like to have a life worth living!"
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>"With services like his, I'm proud to wear Chief's logo right on my ca-!"
"Oh my god that's what the shot was for?! You've never even been to Chief's skyscraper! You don't even know the name of the building! You are such a sellout!" Sweatermouse shouts from ringside.
>"Hahaha and I'm rich."
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After firing the person who made the commercial include that last part, Chief pulls back his own forces away from the fight with GK in order to repair his own shops. This does give GK the edge, and gives him the capability to push into Chief's territory and trashing enough shops that more net damage is had overall.

This is intentional.

By letting himself go on the defensive, Chief is able to videotape a great deal of propaganda by showing that GK is the aggressor. In a surprising twist of fate, GK does not push into Chief's borders and take the bait. Scantower and the crew of aggressors, however, don't take kindly to GK's intelligent move, and push in anyway. GK is then forced to declare them independent attackers, but it still puts a fiasco in GK's lap, especially since he had to cut ties with so many of his fighters. The cohesion of his faction starts getting lost, although in light of rapid expansion from all players, cohesiveness all around is suffering.

Succubus releases the tapes of Murdermouse destroying an independent shop. It was a place somewhat deep inside of Chief's territory, but it helped organize traffic, living quarters, and ultimately shown to be more of a charity program more than a shop. It was devoted to bettering the lives of people inside of the town, or at least that's what Succubus' video would have it explained as.

Then it shows graphic imagery of Murdermouse destroying the place, peace and goodwill all in one go.

Murdermouse replies saying that shops are easy to make, and there wasn't even much lost. Chief can't tell if Murdermouse is still being naive or if she's trying to be a villain, because even though he believes what she says is more or less true, it certainly doesn't come off well. Regardless of her intentions, she has effectively dropped any pretenses of vigilantism, and is a full fledged villain.

GK starts pushing for a wrestling match with Murdermouse once again, as well as calling out Mongrel for the same purpose. He even says he will have it as a team battle with him and an Alison if Murdermouse and Mongrel want to team up, but Chief has no reason to think that the latter two want anything to do with each other. Either way, right now, GK manages to gain the support of a public for a wrestling match. Him and Murdermouse, especially, have the most tense rivalry between any two given wrestlers, and the public demands a fight.

A match seems so inevitable that there are already posters and announcements for it.
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Mafia Alison has begin to perform heists on various locations. She's managed to locate and steal many of the higher value items such as good arcade cabinets, stores of high quality food, vehicles, and so on. Chief's places are targeted, too. Timekeeper and Goat's kitchen is hit and looted. This would have been an immense blow to Chief's reputation when it comes to defending his shops, but the two cooks preferred piece and quiet. Their area was not well defended, and they agree to downplay the damages. Nonetheless, Chief bolsters defenses where it counts more, such as the banks and his core headquarters.

GK runs a formal challenge to Mafia Alison, as well, saying she's a disgrace to Alisons everywhere.
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No. 801974 ID: 3ce125

>>801973
>Timekeeper and Goat got food stolen
Well, just that's an excuse to cook more, really. Also a compliment on their cooking skills.

Maybe it's time to start an insurance company? Not sure if that'll be profitable right now considering so many damages are taking place. After things calm down it might be possible though.

Anyway, start plugging holes in security. Except, leave openings in some places, but set it up as a trap so you can sabotage Mafia Alison's vehicles. It'll slow her down, since at the least she'll have to retrieve new vehicles before the next target. You could start trying to restrict vehicle access, too. I mean, do they just pop out of nowhere when someone needs one? Or do they come out of specific spots?

Maybe it's time to serve your own challenge, to Mafia Alison. Mamba doesn't seem to be trying to take advantage of the chaos very much, maybe this will get her to step up? Maybe she'll intercept the challenge since she's the real Mafia Alison, or "Mafia" Alison will cooperate with her when it comes to the challenge. Let's not make it a wrestling match in any case. I'm more interested in something that displays leadership qualities. Like a mock battle.
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No. 801976 ID: 3abd97

>>801970
The best part about this ad is that Radmin arranged it so he got paid to take Glam and Swimsuit Mouse on date to the pool and chill. That scene is adorable.

>>801972
>team battle with Mongrel and Murdermouse
I don't think MM could even physically stand to be around someone with that low an opinion of Alison for any length of time.

>She's managed to locate and steal many of the higher value items
Hmmmm. I wonder if she's relying on the goodwill of her Alison-Alison persona to find out where stuff is so her Mafia persona can steal it.

>GK runs a formal challenge to Mafia Alison, as well, saying she's a disgrace to Alisons everywhere.
Alison unmasking to her biggest, most deluded fan might be the funniest thing ever. Especially since, as herself, she'd then be able to sick Sevener on him. (Not your call though, since she's managing her own play).

Only thing really lacking is we still haven't gotten Mamba really embroiled in anything, and she was the one we were hoping to disrupt. Maybe we need to put her at odds with someone? Let her get hit? Or give her orders to tackle one of the factions? (Ideally we get the Alisons fighting each other for maximum confusion).
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No. 801977 ID: 211d83

You are doing good but if you rest on your laurels you will get dethroned.

Thoughts on dealing with everyone.

Mafia Alison (our Alison): See if you can find where she is stockpiling her stolen good and steal them back. Possibly by replacing them with look alike items that she will then try to sell. If you can replace her high quality arcade games with crap ones no one will want to buy her stolen merchandise. You could also set up a sting to have her steal boobytrapped items. Food with sensation drugs that looks normal or Arcade cabinet that are rigged to explode.

Mamba: Make sure you have people involved at every level of her school. Make it so she can teach anyone whatever they want but at all levels they know who made the school possible. We want them to have a strong respect for you even though Mamba is there favorite headmistress. Also set up jobs for promising graduates. Just tag those same graduates so you know who might be a plant from Mamba.

Timekeeper and Goat: Upgrade there house out in the quiet zone. They deserve the peace and quiet so try to keep them from getting annoyed by the mafia games unless they want to play.

Guitar knight: Ruin his reputation further. Either get him in the ring and cheat to trounce him. Or set him up in a huge scandal. Maybe make some shoddy counterfeit tickets and release them in his area. Make it look like he is funding his "Charity" with dirty money.

Murdermouse: She is going to do whatever. So capitalize on that. Start making a toy line based on her villainy and sell it. Cheat her on the royalty payments so she makes a pittance.

Opera Alison: Continue to be paranoid about her.

Mongrel: Continue trying to keep him fighting your enemies instead of you.


Overall things look good but now that you have more stuff going on you have more weak points. Make sure to guard your banks and other stockpiles with your best and do not keep all your eggs in one basket. Ideally you should be able to lose several arms of your empire and be able to bounce back quickly.
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No. 801979 ID: 211d83

Oh yeah make sure Sevener is not up to anything. Her and Alison made/hooked up so she might be sneaking around on Mafia's team these days.
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No. 801980 ID: fc33ea

We need to start allocating the troops we have more efficiently, so focus on improving your intel gathering. If we can track where everyone is going to be before they get there, we can shift reserve troops to where they're needed and shore up a better defense.

And Mamba's been quiet, so keep a close eye on that.
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Chief doubles down on vehicular restriction zones. To get a vehicle, one must go to a shop, and so typically they are not able to simply summon their vehicle wherever they are. Nonetheless, creativity from all parties has been demonstrated when it comes to throwing cars over road barriers.

He also sends a public challenge forward to Mafia Alison,

Agents in Mafia Alison's team seem to report that GK has been spotted where Mafia Alison goes. Details are missing and it may be coincidences, but it seems like they might have some correspondence with each other.

Factions continue as they are. Chief continues running every enterprise he can manage, and Mafia Alison continues running a string of heists that make Mongrel's raids look like a temper tantrum. Murdermouse bombing runs seem to have slowly been biased towards GK's territory, and Mamba appears fixated on running her school as though the outside world isn't burning down at all.

Everything almost reaches some kind of status quo, but there is heavy tension between everyone that says that the status quo is not sustainable.

Chief tries to find where Mafia stores her stolen goods. As best as Chief's agents can tell, it's top secret and well guarded. There's clues and suspicions, but the only certain thing is that Mafia is dispersing them to a wide range of hidden stashes rather than putting her eggs all in one basket.

Mamba is called in to Chief's office, and they review the school ranks are again. Chief makes sure that there are people of his on all levels of staff up till Headmistress Mamba herself. She insists that she is focused entirely on her school, he after she leaves, Iso says that she has been speaking with Mafia Alison. Apparently it's so secret that not even Iso knows what the two Alisons talk about.

Timekeeper and Goat get a quiet kitchen that ships food elsewhere, such that no one will hit the kitchen itself. The processed goods will go to Chief's distribution areas along with everything else, which will start to include Murdermouse paraphernalia. She will have a pittance for royalty cuts.

Chief uses one of his prototype counterfeit lines to make shoddy tickets. He sets it up so that he releases counterfeited tickets in GK's area, showing that he is using dirty money to fund his game. Although he vehemently denies it to little effect, he is able to spin it saying that if he did use dirty money, it was for a good cause. Considering much of his efforts are accepted as being charitable and well meaning, the public seems to buy this, or at least enough of it that his name isn't slandered beyond repair. He is, if nothing else, resilient.

By some slip of the tongue, one of Chief's agents inside of Mafia's ranks realize that Mafia has a counterfeit operation going on, but apparently, she is not using it much.

As far as Chief can see, there are no signs of either Sevener or Opera.
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No. 801989 ID: 3ce125

>>801982
...what if Mafia Alison is keeping the stolen goods in your territory, via Mamba? This would let them smear your name just like you've been trying to smear everyone else's, by making it look like you were cooperating with Mafia Alison. Heck, if Alison is really trying to take you down as hard as she could be, she could reveal the fact that you brought her into the game in the first place. You are, in effect, responsible for her thefts. If you don't find the goods and return them you will be in serious trouble.

Might want to focus on that. If you can tie it to Mamba then you win.
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No. 801999 ID: 3abd97

...if she's still focused on her school in all this chaos, what are the 'graduates' doing? I mean, business as usual anywhere in the local area must not be easy.

We're playing a lot of our cards on stirring up the chaos. Hopefully we still have some left to play when someone actually succeeds at targeting us.
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No. 802000 ID: 211d83

Sounds like the Alison's are teaming up. Sure it could just be them becoming friends cause our Alison felt bad for hurting her twins rep but once that was over I could see them working together.

So investigate links between Alisons. Also the talks with GK. Maybe Alison is hiding her goods with Mamba (in your territory or the school) or with GK somewhere via a robin hood sort of arrangement. (she gives your nice stuff to the poor) Make sure Mamba is not setting up a way for Mafia to invade via backdoor and kidnap you or something.

Keep a eye out for Mafia's counterfeiting stuff. Just because she is not using the money does not mean she is not printing it like mad. If she had enough she could tank the economy or launder it into loans or some other mess that could hurt you.

Right now your only big opposition is GK right? Everyone else has little gangs but you should own most the town at this point. Keep pressure up on GK and try to lure his civilians over to your side by improving quality of life in your zone.

As for Mafia and Mamba and the others they have small gangs that will have to live in your territory if you take over the whole town. So spread out so much they have a hard time hiding there operations anywhere.
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No. 802004 ID: 3ce125

>>802000
>she could be hoarding money
Oh god. She's hoarding goods too! She's creating a market shortage. She's controlling the economy! If she can devalue currency, then people will resort to trade, at which point she'll be the richest person around because she has a lot of things to trade with. Typical Alison, always finding the biggest exploits.

I think Chief might want to try to find vulnerabilities in counterfeit tickets. Then release that information to the merchants secretly.
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Chief's agents have searched Mamba's school high and low, since curious individuals outside of these mafia games are liable to get into every nook and cranny anyways. Hiding anything in the school would be a bold move, but Chief doubts that Mafia Alison could hide anything in there.

The graduates of the school are all over the place. Mamba still has reach programs to keep them in the loop, but other than growing as an organization, it hasn't changed drastically from the beginning. The ones who work out of Chief's areas have their work cut out for them.

Mafia Alison's storage areas mostly remain a secret, although Chief's gang does find a couple of small caches. He successfully retrieves the contents, but it's not much compared to what Mafia has hoarded. Aside from what Chief recovers, the stolen goods don't seem to be coming back out to the public in any way.

Chief starts taking over more and more territory until he owns 80% of the area outside of the stadium, and has many agents inside of the stadium itself doing work and shop keeping.

A concern that Chief has is how easy it is to counterfeit enormous sums of tickets. It's possible that Mafia's counterfeiting program could be big enough to tank the economy. This concern is aggravated when Chief realizes the significance of Mafia's aggressive heists, and how all of the stolen goods remain hidden instead of resurfacing elsewhere.

He starts making sure that not all of his assets are ticket based, but the amount of inertia he has towards a ticket based economy is not one that he was prepared to completely swerve away from. R&D is told to look hard for any discrepancies between legitimate tickets and counterfeited ones.

In what feels like a blink of an eye afterwards, agents of Mafia report that big orders are coming through before long.
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She begins dropping tickets across the streets.

Entire dump trucks of tickets are blown out across blocks. Her team, in the dark until the last moments, are ordered to go to the tops of skyscrapers and rain down bag after bag of tickets onto the streets below. Hoses are pushed out of windows and set to push tickets out at a thousand a second. Even Chief's tower sees a huge downpour.

Chief puts a sensation cigarette into his mouth, made to help calm his nerves.

Mafia Alison did have an enormous counterfeit operation after all. Through inflation, she has completely destroyed the ticket based economies by making tickets worthless.

The only things of value are now are things that take work to replace, specifically, manufactured goods. The economy will be a trade based one, and Mafia Alison has spent a lot of time gathering all the tradeable goods.
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No. 802013 ID: 3ce125

>Chief doubles down on vehicular restriction zones.
>road barriers
I was suggesting you restrict the ability for people to even get vehicles, actually. How about a different tactic? Forbid outside vehicles and implement a taxi service for your territory. That way, any non-taxi vehicle can be immediately identified as up to no good, and taxis can't be used as escape vehicles.
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Radmin makes a showing on television.

>"Clearly, we are dealing with the greatest criminal of our time. She is public enemy number one, and I believe will stay that way so long as she's left to slither through the streets." he says, now as poor as anyone else who has buckets full of paper scraps. "I believe that the one who takes down Mafia Alison will enter the halls of legends - and that, spectators, is worth far more than what tickets could ever buy."

R&D reports that there is extremely slight margins of errors in counterfeit tickets, but to create machines that check authenticity would be a huge undertaking, and more importantly, take time to develop. Even then, it would be a big issue to have to use for every transaction.
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No. 802016 ID: fc33ea

Since the economy will be manufacturing based, you should try to take control of the manufacturing base. And start putting trackers on your stuff on the sly so you can recover it more easily.

And look into more ways to spy on people.
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No. 802017 ID: 3ce125

I was too late.

Anyway, what you need to do now is create a new form of currency that can't be counterfeited or is extremely difficult to counterfeit, and has the capability to be changed every now and then to force counterfeiters to start over from scratch.

Verified tickets can of course be exchanged for this new currency. If you're in control of the source of the currency you can do things like hand out bonds and large loans. Just make sure there's a currency sink or else you'll have inflation problems.

It's possible that Mamba figured out from the start that you're the source of all this chaos and that if she tried to pull a fast one on you that you'd be prepared. She could just be biding her time, knowing she was winning slowly before you pulled this crap.

You could, considering you just expanded your operation so drastically, make an attempt at raiding the heavily guarded areas. Is it time to test your might against Rulekeeper's finest?
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No. 802018 ID: 3abd97

Well, you figured out that was coming, so we had some time to diversify away from tickets. Still, you started the ticket based economy, and your operations depended on it more than GK's, or Mambas. Your clever plan hurt you more than the others, there.

> to create machines that check authenticity would be a huge undertaking, and more importantly, take time to develop. Even then, it would be a big issue to have to use for every transaction.
Hmmmm. Workaround: don't use them for every transaction.

Mint your own, brand new fiat currency. People who used to be rich who want to maintain their wealth will need to come crawling to you to scan their money through the machine and exchange their old tickets for your new currency. Leveraged right, you can use this to make people in the old status quo indebted to you.

Even better: this is the perfect chance to set up a throne. A central authority tied to this new currency. Kings mint coins in their image, and you're the Mafia Kingpin. (At war with at least two Mafia Donnas, even if only one is openly).
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No. 802021 ID: 3ce125

Oh right, we never tried to make countermeasures just for Murder Mouse.
Are bomb scanners possible?
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No. 802024 ID: 3ce125

Oh oh and you need to get Shopkeep involved in the creation of the new fiat currency. It's to his benefit, after all, and it would establish a legitimacy that would be lacking if it was just you.
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No. 802025 ID: 211d83

Creating your own proper currency would help. Then keep a team working on updated bills to thwart counterfeit efforts.

Could make it so your currency was the only one accepted for goods in your areas. Maybe have some fancy crypto printing to keep it from being easily counterfeited. Get it spread out enough and people will use it outside your zone as well.

Luckily even though Mafia stole a lot you have the bulk of new students and crafters that could make more goods. So now watch for a coup from Mamba seeing as she was the one who trained many of those crafters. Possibly she might try to form a craftsmen union that could try to oppose you.

Also while Mafia had worked to gather all the tradeable goods it would take a huge group to fence said goods. You can send out teams all over to disrupt her trying to sell any of what she stole. Destroy her shops and steal stuff back and the like. She played the bandit game for awhile and now its your turn to steal stuff back as she tries to unload it.
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No. 802026 ID: 1e7aa8

Make the counterfeit checking machines standard issue at your banks, free to use.

this way, you will gradually and completely counteract this sudden swing while you also cash in on the manufactured goods market.
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Although Chief has set up his throne in technicality, his kingdom's own currency would help solidify it. In a stroke of good luck, the Shopkeep himself agrees to summon forth a specific material for Chief's mint machines alone. This will make counterfeiting Chief's currency difficult or even impossible.

Chief announces to the public that his new currency will be the necessary currency to deal with everything in Chief's domain. He assures the people that had money in his banks that those tickets will be counted up and transferred into the new currency so that their wealth is not lost.

Chief's new currency is secure. He was able to diversify somewhat away from tickets. Yet it wasn't enough to come out of this cleanly.

Despite the assurances that the new currency can't be so easily made, people's trusts in funds have plummeted as hard as the ticket's value. Secondly, while Chief may control most of the area outside of the stadium, the stadium, as always, is the bulk of the overall economy. With the enormous influx in counterfeit tickets, the market is also flooded with all kinds of goods. Chief's shops are unique and get their own traffic, but with his currency not literally clogging the streets to the point of causing car crashes, his shops aren't that popular. This may change as people get tired of the stadium's lack of variety, but Chief will get hit in the meanwhile.

Furthermore, the lack of trust in currency has given an alarming rise to both Mamba's school, as well as Guitar Knight's by the people, for the people society.
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Mamba does not reach out for a grab of power herself. Chief finds this one of her most devious acts to date, as instead of herself speaking about how she should start running society, she has others vouch for her. Rumors and dissent spreads like a fire hit a river of gasoline, and while rumors are difficult to trace backwards, Chief knows full well that they originated from her core team. Aside from it being terribly obvious, Iso states it as well.

The rumors vary, but ultimately it speaks that Mamba's school is the sort of society that people should strive for, and Chief's society ran off of the ticket which was so soundly defeated.

Mamba remains more or less silent on this, and lets the people under her carry her to the top without her lifting a single finger. Yet with those rumors comes the idea that perhaps, after everything, GK also had the right idea. In a move that Chief did not see coming, Mamba and GK start looking at each other with a sense of allegiance. In fact, before Chief knows it, the feelings are so mutual and such an open secret that they are likely already allied, as they begin to coordinate with one another.

This is something Chief had forgotten about. Glitcher did not resurrect every Alison thoroughly. There were a few Alisons that represented a mysterious element that Glitcher did not want to spoil. A long time ago, he said that he would let GK summon Mamba. He had forgotten about this in the midst of the game as she revealed she was 1700 after he might have otherwise remembered this.

In short, Chief suspects that GK is the very person who brought back 1700, and they may have been secret allies to begin with, and were waiting for an opportunity to work together. It is slightly humorous to Chief that Mafia Alison was the catalyst to bring Alison 1700 and GK to begin to freely work together.

Despite GK being outside of the gang, Mamba has such overwhelming support that to outright deny her the right to work with a now more amicable GK would be to invoke a great deal of ire within his own ranks.

He still has many allies within his ranks, but for all intents and purposes, his gang has been shattered into two sides, his own, and Mamba's. The two sides were so closely integrated that fighting would be an incomprehensible mess, yet as each minute passes, the participants in each side are slowly drifting apart from one another. Before long, they will each be on opposing walls, and battle lines will be drawn.

Mamba, though, effectively has GK on her side even if they don't outright say they're on the same team.
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Yet, there is hope, because GK's faction has the exact same issue. Scantower is immediately about to rile up the combatants of GK, saying that GK was just putting forth one more fight before tossing the fighters off to the side as soon as they were inconvenient, as indicated by GK's quick denouncement of their allegiance when they pushed the fight to Chief's shops from earlier.

Hence, many of GK's ranks have been split off, but Chief's society and systems promise hard competition and fights. With just a simple nudge and a show of evidence, GK's old fighters are now back onto Chief's side.

Off to the side, Mafia Alison has surfaced once again. She holds a great deal of valuable stock from heists, but that was only half of her game.

The other was to take advantage of the fact that even the stadium shops themselves have many limited run items. Things like food are in limitless supply, but arcade cabinets, sensation items, furniture and so on have a max stock. They replenish over time, but Mafia Alison put her own agents with bags full of tickets to buy out the shops while the tickets were floating down the buildings, thus, until the shops renew stock and things even back out, Mafia Alison controls an enormous amount of material, and the great majority of the economy.

The upside to this is that moving that many goods can't be kept a secret so easily.
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Hence, the resulting effects of the market crashed caused a staggering shift in power, resources and staff.

The throne of Chief is nearly in limbo. Chief sits on it, yet Mamba may hold a power that rivals it.

GK and Mamba control the people's good will, talent, and resolve

Mafia holds the wealth and the economy.

Chief has the die hard capitalists and Scantower's gang of fighters.

Guitar Knight, Murdermouse, and Mongrel have formed a hate triangle, and a fight is brewing between them. That seems to occupy their attention, so Mongrel and Murdermouse have not been raiding and bombing respectively, and are focusing on their upcoming fight. They have decided that the one that gets second place among them place will have to yield to the one that gets first place, while on the streets. The one that gets third place, though, will have to leave town and never come back.

As for Chief's position, what he needs is time and patience. The shops will replenish goods. The faith in currency can be regained with Shopkeep's blessing. Chief still has manufacturing lines even if the bulk of them are under Mamba's tail. He still has his network and infrastructure. All that Chief needs to do is to spend time for it to all come together - but that is a purchase that will not accept any currency but time itself, and that is what Chief may not have.

What he does have, in bulk, is an army of soldiers and competitive social climbers that are hungry for action, and all Chief needs to do is point his finger in a direction. He is reluctant to split them up, lest he be divided and conquered, but there are a few targets.

A) Mafia Alison. With her influx of stadium goods, the warehouses she stores them in are going to be a known location, and so Chief will be able to attack it and regain his share of goods. This may boost the morale of his army by having them loot the goods and disrupt Mafia's influence, but it will not affect Mamba and Guitar Knight significantly.
B) Mamba and Guitar Knight. Despite Mamba not reaching out for power herself, she knowingly refrained from stopping her agents from reaching out to give her power. Chief may not want that to stand, and may want to make an example of them. His PR will plummet, but if he can make it clear that the school can only exist with his blessing, then Mamba will be out of the picture and GK will go back to being a small parasite.
C) The stadium. Rulekeep's purified devotees guard the shops, but they are finite, and they can be restrained. If Chief can make a successful push into the stadium, take the economy and control the replenishing goods of their shops, he will be more powerful than ever. Spend resources and manpower on this and fail, though, and he will be as good as done.
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No. 802071 ID: 85293e

I say attacking the Stadium is best. But instead of using the bulk of your forces, you should see if you can finagle Mamba to do it, possibly putting her at odds with GK and making her have to come down definitely on one side or the other.
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No. 802072 ID: fc33ea

Aim for Mamba. Greatest and closest threat, and I do believe it's customary to take out a traitor before an enemy.
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No. 802074 ID: 3ce125

>>802066
>The one that gets third place, though, will have to leave town and never come back.
See if you can manipulate the fight to make sure Mongrel takes the big loss. MM will stop the bombings once the game's over, and GK isn't a threat to society at all. Mongrel will never stop. Heck, see if you can get MM to do that for you; ask her to focus her fighting on Mongrel even if she winds up in second place. Tell her you will be in her debt, even if you fall from power.

Anyway, I vote
C) The stadium.
It's been a juicy target from the start. The time is now! After that is done, you can snowball the other targets and wind up on top.
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No. 802075 ID: 83b227

Do you mean "mafia alison holds the wealth and economy"? You said "Mamba".

Ok, so, you need to stall for time. That means diverting Mamba and GK towards something besides a play for your power, at least for right now. This'll be a variation on A.

Get into the charity business for once, helping to clean up the mess, pro bono. Send out your own people to do it, you want them to be as visibly occupied with that as possible. That'll leave your own territory somewhat vulnerable, but hopefully you can trust to the hate triangle and to Mamba and GK's desire to keep their positive reputations (you're still Mamba's boss and benefactor, for now, and she'll look bad if she goes for an underhanded takeover while you're busy with good works) to keep you safe. As for Mafia Alison, she's who you'll be directing Mamba and GK towards. The rest of you, villains or no, are people who build things, whereas she's clearly someone who tears everything down to get her way. If you establish yourself as being busy with maintaining order and fixing the mess quickly enough, you can ask Mamba to deal with mafia alison for you. In fact, you could outright declare it as a test of her ability, say that you're thinking of assigning her official next-in-line status for your throne.

That, plus the opportunity to try some scheme with her efforts against mafia alison (it needs to be tempting for her and GK to take it), should hopefully give you time to recover and make some counterplays. There's a danger that Mamba and mafia alison are already in cahoots in some respect, but that also could present opportunities if you can catch some evidence of collusion.
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No. 802084 ID: 3abd97

Interesting that Mamba jumped at the chance to play good guy while we've got Alison playing bad guy. We've got them playing opposite roles.

...you know if we needed more chaos in the ranks, at some point we could just leak both Alison's identities. Would cause short term problems for them as followers reacted and reshuffled. Maybe no long term damage though, especially if GK has already figured it out, or already knows. And that might just leave them both gunning for you at the same time, or mess up any cool reveal Alison may already have planned.

If she's willing to use existing relationships and identities: Alison might be able to win Murdermouse over to her side at any time by just asking her to do something. (Uh, if Alison knows MM is her Sweater, at least, which isn't public knowledge).

Option A sort of makes the most sense in a "playing the board" way, but it's attacking your own disruption while letting Mamba establish herself / settle into her new power structure. That's shooting yourself in the foot. (And if you don't force her to, I don't think Alison will take you off the board? She's here at your behest, and just eliminating you isn't in the spirit of what you challenged her to do).

I like C the best, honestly. If it works, that pins GK / Mamba between you and Alison.

...if possible, the attack on the stadium should be a Trojan horse of some kind.
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No. 802272 ID: 7397ab

Manipulating the 3 way fight so Murdermouse wins would help. Getting GK or mongrel kicked out of town would be nice. Murder being our favorite and easiest to handle most likely.

As for who to focus on? I would say Mamba but have to be very careful about how you deal with her.

She is probably your biggest threat as she sort of controls half your stuff and is working on training the next generation of content creators. If you ignore her for long enough her numbers will grow enough to make her the leader of your gang with no fighting at all.

Possibly we can deal with her by forcing a choice. Make the headmistress of the school its own position. In such a fashion that if she goes for the throne she would have to give up leadership of her school to someone else. Pit her love of the school against her desire to take over the gang.

Might just help her Iso (if he was being truthful) and make her realize that what she wants is to be a teacher and not a conqueror.

So instead of making a example of her and occurring a bad PR hit, attempt to manipulate her in a way that looks great to the public but forces her into a tough choice.

If she stays with the school then she should come into line. And if she goes for the throne you can smack her down with less PR hit.
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No. 802297 ID: bfb318
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Chief didn't want to split his forces, but on second thought, he has a number of aggressive individuals who won't settle for anything less than an offensive battle.

However, there are those in his ranks who aren't so keen to fight anyway, and they will be put to best use by helping charity work along with Mamba, but if anything, attempt to make it look like Chief organized much of it to begin with.

Likewise, part of his government involves Headmistress as one title, and King as another title. Mamba will purposefully need to upset the established ranks to go for the throne. Chief would have liked more time so that people become expectant of the idea that ranks are a sacred decree that can't be changed, but it'll have to do.

Chief won't worry about that for now. She won't go for a throne so easily while Chief is doing charity workk. It will be difficult to convince her to help attack the stadium anyways, as her faction is just shy of pacifism itself.

What Chief will focus on is designing an attack on the stadium itself for him and his aggressive band of miscreants. With Mongrel focused so much on the incoming wrestling match, Chief is able to scoop up some of Mongrel's gang.

Murdermouse is called up.

>"Hey! What do you want?"
"Are you aiming for first?"
>"Yeah, why?"
"There's hardly a point to getting anything above second, but I want to ask you to make sure that Mongrel gets third. Guitar Knight is hardly a threat to society."
>"Why should I listen to you?"

Chief is also tempted to set up a nuclear option by having Murdermouse set an obscene amount of bombs all around his building so that if he loses the throne, he can blackmail the king - Mamba, most likely - that if he can't have the gang, no one can. He'll have to have Murder set up another building too, to show that he has the capacity for it.

Then again, he may just be thinking wildly. He does have faith, though, that Murdermouse won't join either Alison's side just because they're Alisons, even if she is Sweatermouse at heart.

>"Wait are we breaking character?"
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No. 802301 ID: 7397ab

Wait in character? I am actually trying to take over the world here Murdermouse. ...Just kidding

But no I was just about to make you a offer you can't refuse in mob boss fashion. Just realized I forgot to think up a thing to offer you or set up blackmail or a threat in advance.

Sorry.
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No. 802304 ID: 3ce125

>>802297
>as her faction is just shy of pacifism itself.
You know, that's an argument you could use against them if it came to a coup. It's plain to see that there will be conflict in the future. What good is pacifism then?

As for Murdermouse, tell her (no), you'll have to guard shops a bit less if Mongrel is out of the picture which aligns with her goals, and on top of that you'll owe her a big favor she can cash in on in the future.
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No. 802305 ID: 3ce125

Wait, is Murdermouse's identity as Sweatermouse public knowledge? We could always use that as blackmail.
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No. 802314 ID: 3abd97

>"Wait are we breaking character?"
*Chuckle* Honestly, I have a hard time keeping track of character, lately. I truly enjoy all the plotting and planning, and when you're the former villain turned good guy playing a villain how presents himself as heroic for PR reason, it can be easy to lose track of the layers.

In-character then, what manner of bride does Murdermouse need to be paid to beat an enemy she was fighting anyways? (A suite for her Sweatermouse alt-cycle supporters? ...provide a nice date for her alternate persona and her suitors?).

>>802305
I'd say no to blackmail. She approached Chief with that secret in confidence well before any of this "game" started, and we invited her to participate. That crosses a line, and also limits future antics and silliness (which Chief appreciates), since Sweatermouse will lose the ability to act as Murdermouse with relative impunity.
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No. 802319 ID: 83b227

"It is a little hard to keep track, isn't it? If we want to keep this in-character I suppose I should have some leverage over you to get favors. Is there anything Murdermouse wants? Or, alternately, fears?"
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No. 802323 ID: 03f010

No nuclear option, that's a sore loser's game.

Though I guess you could act as you did so, only to use party flavor bombs. Don't forget the big unfolding "BOOM" scroll on the wall behind the throne.
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No. 802335 ID: bfb318
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"No no my mistake. I've come to make you an offer you can't refuse."
>"And that is?"
"... I admit that I should have thought of this beforehand."
>".... pff chief come on I thought we were serious gang people. Well you should have thought of that before wasting my time!"
"Wait, I'll have to guard shops less if Mongrel is out of the picture, and this aligns with your goals, does it not?"
>"Yeah? I'm going to beat Mongrel anyway, it's not like I'm planning on losing!"
"Yes, true, ignore that. I need a favor... and I'll owe you a huge favor in return. Sweatermice suite, private rooms, and so on."
>"Is this one of those 'loan' things I keep hearing about? It sounds lame. What's just stopping you from saying 'no' when I ask for a favor later?"
"Well, it does involve blowing things up."
>"I'm listening."

Chief explains the nuclear plan to supposedly blow up his own territory if he can't have it all. It's a bluff, anyways, he won't be such a sore loser to truly blow everything up. However, to lend credit to his bluff, he requests that Murdermouse lace an abandoned building in a farther spot in town with real explosives, and upon Chief blowing that up to show he means business, will bluff with his own territory. The bombs laced in his buildings will just be mere party flavor bombs, if his bluff is called.

As for blackmail regarding Murdermouse secretly being Sweatermouse, this was private info made outside of the game. If Chief manages to find out her identity within the game's boundaries, the option will present itself, but until then, it is no option at all and Chief will not do this.

Murdermouse agrees, saying she wants a nice place for Sweatermice to be, on top of a big favor to be cashed in later.
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No. 802336 ID: bfb318
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Later, after Murdermouse's operations are well underway, Chief delivers a charitable donation of giant cakes to the stadium area. He wheels the giant cakes into the market, where many prime shops circle the building.

Purified devotees are seen floating around in small numbers, but Chief knows that as soon as an attack is made, they'll fly out of the woodworks. Purified devotees bring out their beam swords, which sends the contestants back to their spawn point if struck with it, whether the contestant consents or not. On the other hand, their limbs are invisible, but are continuous with their bodies. Using R&D tech of seal-sealing nets, devotees can be restrained.

Chief has to bet on hitting overwhelmingly hard and fast initially, as while Chief's forces can run back after getting sent back to spawn, Devotees are capable of morphing with one another. It won't take long for them to realize the can escape nets by morphing, if they're left to get in contact with one another.
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No. 802337 ID: bfb318
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Chief shouts the attack order, and the cakes explode out as the mass of assailants bursts forward.

Combat here is much closer to legitimate fighting with effective means of neutralizing one another. Most of the nearby devotees and Chief's forces are neutralized within the first 10 seconds. The devotees slam against the ground, and the contestants dematerialize similar to deaths in stages, leading to explosions of chunks of cake as they're sent back to their spawn point.

He fires his net at an approaching devotee, but not before getting struck by the beam sword himself.
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No. 802338 ID: bfb318
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Chief feels his surroundings changed, as he teleports back to his default apartment room.

He starts running back, along with his similarly 'fallen' allies, but by the time he's out of the building, he's told it's apparent that Chief's forces are overwhelmed, and the devotees that were netted have been freed. Chief simply didn't have the firepower needed to overwhelm them.

While it was a fun diversion, it is also looking like a catastrophic failure.

Also, Chief is now getting incredibly derogatory coverage about trying to take over, as some put it, 'the hallowed sanctuaries of wrestlepolis'.
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No. 802340 ID: 211d83

Put out a news bulletin about how it was hardly a takeover but a test of a fun new game you are introducing soon.

Tell people how you will be regularly placing prizes in the center of the stadium open to whoever can claim them first. But they will be protected by the stadium security. If they can sneak past or stop the guards somehow they win that days prize.

Its your way of trying to bring the wrestling excitement to the masses of non wrestlers. Why should they have all the fun?

Then get some prizes and figure out a way to make everything work. Attempt to turn a PR nightmare into a positive spin.
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No. 802344 ID: 3abd97

>Succubus (and others) apparently naked and fighting while covered in cake
...so I'm guessing she handled the planning on the exact details of this Trojan horse, huh.

You know we could probably recoup our loses on this jaunt by selling the footage. It works well as slapstick or erotica, tastes and framing depending.

It doesn't matter if people are laughing at you if you're making a buck off your act.

...also it will be hard for the negative press to stick if your blatant profiteering makes it less plausible you were actually trying to take over.
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No. 802349 ID: bfb318
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"Succubus, a good attempt, and good logistics, but call off the attack. It was recorded, right?"
>"Hm, it must have been. We didn't try to record it, but I'm sure there's footage."
"Grab it. We're going to sell the footage and play it off like some kind of joke. We have to spin the PR around. Make it sound like it really is a game. Drop prizes around well guarded areas and see who can reach it. That kind of stuff."
>"Think you'll actually come out with a positive reputation because of this?"
"It'll be tough, but I do know that I'll come out with a better reputation than if we do nothing at all. Also, why were so many people naked?"
>"Armor is tougher to clean."
"... sure, okay."

The PR issue was apparentlyall Mamba needs to start poising for a take over. Or rather, have everyone around her start pushing her to take the throne much more openly. A takeover is imminent, but the damage control Chief exercised at least prevented Mamba from being able to freely sit down in the throne.

Mafia is starting to steal talent from Mamba's school. Using the immense economy that she owns, Mafia is able to promise them a world of resources in which to practice their hobbies. It seems to be effective, as most hobbyists just want to mess around with their trade, and stay out of the gang wars.

Chief would have liked to see Mafia go after Mamba at virtually any time but now. Mamba sends Chief a message, asking him to intervene and do something about Mafia, since the school is, after all, under Chief. If Chief ignores this, then Mamba will have a good excuse to take the throne. If Chief pursues Mafia, then Mamba may come out ahead.

The wrestling match will be soon, but Murdermouse believes she can have everything set up before the match.
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No. 802359 ID: 1e7aa8

You don't want Mamba to take over your position? Start sabotaging her supporters while you fix your PR. No more direct attacks on the arena.
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No. 802362 ID: fc33ea

She might be untouchable, but her underlings and support staff aren't. Go after them. If they're singled out properly you can neutralize them one by one- Alison's also a people person, she may put all other operations on full stop to take care of her own.
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No. 802364 ID: 3abd97

>Mamba sends Chief a message, asking him to intervene and do something about Mafia, since the school is, after all, under Chief. If Chief ignores this, then Mamba will have a good excuse to take the throne. If Chief pursues Mafia, then Mamba may come out ahead.
I'm not sure what she wants us to do about that. It's not as if Mafia Alison is making an attack we can respond to- she's merely offering opportunities to the students, which is what the school was doing in the first place.

We can put some measures in place to protect the school itself- it won't be harmed or damaged for the fighting, but student retention is on Mamba. You need to turn this back on her, and you need to make it public, to some extent. She's teaching the students, she's the one who's proud of her ability to keep them under her tail. If she can't hold onto her students in the good environment you're providing, you may have to ask questions about how well she's doing her job. It's not that you're failing to protect them, it's that Mamba apparently isn't as a good at her job as Mafia Alison is. Perhaps she needs to draw back from other activities and focus on her school again?
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No. 802367 ID: 211d83

Mamba just handed you a great way to deal with her on a golden platter. If Mafia is working on making a paradise for crafters and artists with her loot then why would Mamba oppose that unless she had bad intentions?

Leak the fact that Mamba hates what Mafia is doing because its stealing away her minions. And is trying to pressure you to destroy the crafting paradise that Mafia is creating. Set the rumor mill going that she has been using her students to gain power this whole time and is not really interested in there future. Why else would she be trying to have you destroy the opportunity that Mafia offers?

Frame her as a scheming power grabber who has gotten caught up in the gang wars and lost sight of what is really important to her. Threaten to replace her as headmistress if she does not get back to her roots as a teacher.

Then use the resulting confusion to sent some disgruntled school graduates to Mafia's paradise. So you can spy on it and throw your full forces at it once Mamba backs down.


Oh and start selling Chief brand net launchers and tools for stadium fighting devotees.
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No. 802380 ID: bfb318
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Chief considers starting to sabotage Mamba's supporters, but he can't do this himself, lest he invoke even harsher PR damage.

Options for helping Mamba effectively are limited, as attacking Mafia Alison's assets can only be done in piecemeal quantities, which will just look bad when in the context of hobbyists going to Mafia. Chief feels like Mamba is doing this knowingly, to give Chief a job he can't solve, then bring him down for not solving it.

It's a crude move, though, as Chief is in an acceptable position to spin it right back at her. He addresses people mostly at the top of his ladder, but expects the sentiments to trickle down. Those sentiments are that Chief offers direct protection, but student retention is entirely on Mamba. If she cannot uphold her part of the job, then Chief's duty isn't to do her job for her, but rather, either make sure she can start doing her job, or get someone who can.

He hesitates at saying that Mafia Alison is making a better schooling environment than Mamba, realizing that may be crossing a line. Despite Mamba's increasingly clear ambitions of power, she's shown that her school environment is a labor of love. What Chief recalls though is that while he can't sabotage Mamba's supporters himself, he can now get Mamba to sabotage her own followers. He explains to her that, since it's her duty to retain students, she should not just keep herself focused on her school, but keep her team focused as well. More importantly, she should get her subordinates to stop talking about Mamba's rise to power and help her do her job, as if she can't retain students as Headmistress, she certainly won't be able to do so while worrying about the rest of Chief's empire.

This works well. Chief also fires up some rumors about Mamba being so concerned about the student exodus because she wants more power, something that is made more believable by her subordinate's aggressive words towards her taking the throne. In turn, both GK and Iso make pleas to Mamba to focus on her school more, and the remaining subordinates back off. The pressure for Mamba to take the throne seems to wane, although Mamba starts meeting up with Mafia Alison some more, supposedly to coordinate hobbyist activities.

More pressingly for Chief, his band of raiders want something to attack.
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No. 802384 ID: 211d83

Track down Mafias biggest storehouse that is not in a student area and hit it hard. Want to have a nice rich target that will have minimal PR fallout for attacking.

As for Mamba meeting with Mafia yeah sure it could be innocent but I bet not. Watch her like the hawk you are and make sure if she is plotting something new with Mafia you do not get caught completely off guard.
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No. 802387 ID: 3abd97

>More pressingly for Chief, his band of raiders want something to attack.
Probing hits into GK's and MA's territories? Try finding something worth hitting, or finding a weak spot, then doubling down on that, instead of committing the resources all in advance.
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No. 802390 ID: fc33ea

Minor harassment campaign on GK to throw him off his game before the match. Light stuff like sirens driving past his house, harassing calls, probing attacks on his territory, whatever. And when everybody thinks you're targeting GK... Hit mongrel in the face with something really fun from the sensation store, right before he goes into the ring, Vitriol attack style.
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No. 802408 ID: 3ce125

Let's raid Mafia's storehouses. It's a win/win. I mean, are you forgetting that most of her resources are stolen goods? Return the goods! If it turns out that we recovered non-stolen goods in the attack then we can just give them back.
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No. 802458 ID: 1e7aa8

Yeah, find mafia alison's biggest non-school stockpile and knock it over.

It might be time to find evidence of Mamba actively working against you so that you will justified in firing her. (but letting her keep the school)
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No. 802735 ID: bfb318
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"Succubus, how feasible is it to hit Mongrel with a sensation item?"
>"Impossible. We can customize them, but in the end, Rulekeeper explicitly designed them so that the recepient has to be willing to receive it for it to work. Otherwise, we would have better weaponized it long ago."
"That's probably for the best. Nonetheless, I'd like to help Murdermouse with her fight. Probe GK's territories. Make it seem like we're prepping something large, but don't devote many resources. For Mongrel... well, I can't think of anything that won't make him angry and simply take it out on his opponents. Do we have data on Mafia's storehouses that aren't in a school zone?"
>"We've found some, yes."
"Send in the forces. Give them something to do. Also, do me a favor and try to find evidence that Mamba is working against me."
>"We've been doing that, Chief. She's as clean as a whistle, subordinates aside."
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No. 802736 ID: bfb318
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The wrestling match begins as Chief watches developments. Chief doesn't watch it like a hawk, but he makes sure to keep it on in the background. GK and Murdermouse team up on Mongrel, kicking him out of town forever, or until Rulekeeper or Glitcher don't feel like having it enforced, whichever comes first.

The fight between Murder and Guitar takes some time, but after a long, drawn out match, Guitar Knight manages to get the win. Although the odds were in modest favor of Murdermouse, GK's win is well received, partially since GK is one of the more approachable administrators, and because the heroic personas of the ring have been starved for wins. There may or may not be anything keeping Murdermouse from doing as she pleases anyway, 2nd place or not.

During this, Chief's forces fight hard against Mafia, but it seems to be an even match as stolen goods exchange hands constantly, often even the same goods.

Then, Mamba makes an unexpected open letter to Mafia and Chief. In it she states that the gang wars have taken too far of a toll on the town, and now it's starting to split her school in two as well. She wants a unified school with both Mafia's resources - Chief has closed the gap but it still far behind - and Chief's network. Her plea is for both Chief and Mafia to make just as much peace as in necessary to have an independent school, and rebuild the town at its worst out.
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No. 802737 ID: 3ce125

>>802736
Great. She made you an offer you can't reasonably refuse.

Counter-offer. You agree to this, and she agrees never to come after your throne. To concede victory to you, in that respect. She wants you to accept a peace agreement? It'd better involve the end of the game too, which would, to be honest, make it a win for everyone. You, her, and the contestants.
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No. 802739 ID: bfb318
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Chief makes an open letter to Mamba back, detailing how he is open to the idea, but her subordinates actions towards pushing her toward the throne have left concerns about if she is ready to commit fully to her schooling, or if this is just one large ruse to grab power. As a gesture of good will, Chief wants Mamba to publically pledge that she is never to take the throne, and should she try, the gang itself is to throw her out.

Mamba replies, openly once again, that Mafia has privately replied already, saying that she wants to sort out details between herself, Mamba and Chief. It would be simplest, Mamba thinks, to simply put all the demands, stipulations, criteria and so forth on the table, including any pledges from Mamba, all at once.

With that, Mamba invites both Mafia Alison and Chief a convention building at the edge of the stadium's territory, to act as a neutral room between all parties.
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No. 802740 ID: 3ce125

>>802739
Hmm.

Is the throne literally just "sit on it and you're leader"? I mean if she lures you out of your territory so you can't get back quickly, and she sneaks into the throne room and claims it, would she win?

If she can't just do a sneak attack on your throne room by not showing up for the meeting, then that sounds acceptable.
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No. 802741 ID: 3abd97

>>802736
>the proposal
It might work, if we set things up so people in the neutral school have effectively written themselves out of advancement access elsewhere. In theory.

In practice, Mamba will exploit the school's central and neutral position to insulate herself while at the same time making both groups dependent on her. Mamba not being able to take your throne won't matter if by the end your throne is subservient to the principal's desk. It's a good position to make her own institution the head of this little triumvirate.

>>802739
>the invitation
This is totally a trap and I will be disappointed if it doesn't end in violence.
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No. 802742 ID: b412df

This is totally a trap, can't really avoid not going for diplomatic reasons though. Just try to prepare, if it breaks out in violence this could be a all or nothing power grab.
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No. 802743 ID: db0da2

Go for it. Scope the place out first of course, but we don't really have anything to lose by going, there's very little they could do in the way of traps or tricks.
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No. 802748 ID: 91ee5f

>>802739
Since this is going to be in the stadium's territory (or close to it, seeing as it's the edge), I think there will be some Purified Devotees to watch over the negotiations. And that'll mean no one can put traps of any kind there, since the territory doesn't belong to Mafia, Mamba, or Chief.

At least, I think that's what'll happen.

Maybe we should request for a neutral 4th party from the stadium to oversee everything to make sure no one from any of the 3 negotiating parties tries to do anything.
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No. 802770 ID: 211d83

Send succubus shapeshifted to look like you as this is obviously a trap. She can run the meeting and while that is going on you can have a team ready farther out to deal with whatever Mamba is plotting.
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No. 802773 ID: fc33ea

Hold up for a minute, she wants to just pack up her stuff and secede? After all you've done for her? She can leave alright, but don't start going soft on her in negotiations though.
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No. 802774 ID: 76a89a

Perhaps you could conspire with mafia alison to get her to double-cross Mamba in your favor.
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No. 802780 ID: bfb318
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802780

This smells of a trap, Chief thinks, although he has little idea about what sort of trap could be effective. The throne, for instance, is more symbolic, she can't just slither into his office, sit on his chair, and be queenpin.

Still, Chief expects violence in the near future.

The place is scoped out, and as far as any of Chief's agents can tell, there's nothing compromised about the building. The most suspicious thing was just Mafia's agents there as well, doing the same scoping. Chief is tempted to get a neutral 4th party involved, but without being able to make recommendations, it would be all too easy to end up with someone like Radmin or Haydi to make it worse. Chief is also tempted to conspire with Mafia Alison, but this is too risky, he feels, as it may simply lead to Mafia Alison having material to conspire with Mamba.

With that, Chief accepts the invitation, and shows up to discuss policies with Mamba and Mafia. The event is well publicized, but the three of them are left alone behind closed doors while everyone else waits outside for the verdict. Mafia attempts to sound annoyed and unwilling to concede much, but Chief can tell that Alison is having an excruciating time remaining in character. She likely thinks that Mamba's school is a marvelous thing, and to try to put forth an honest effort at fighting its progression is fighting everything she likes.

>"Well, hmmm..." Mamba thinks, after Mafia says she will not yield territory. "Perhaps, ah... instead of yielding territory, you could help develop new territory, alongside of Chief? We can have a field day moving the old classrooms out of Chief's building."
"I'm unsure why that's necessary." says Chief. "It seems like a lot of work just to symbolize independence."
>"It's a tiny amount of work to prevent you from swallowing up the school yourself!" says Mafia.
>"In that case, we can move, ahh... you guys." says Mamba.

Chief isn't sure what she means, as she reaches out on her tablet.
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No. 802781 ID: bfb318
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802781

And the trap, just as Chief anticipated, is sprung. He and Mafia are teleported into a house that he recognizes as a sky house before he and Mafia hit the floor. Typically they are made for priveleged individuals, but this one appears to have bars blocking the windows.

Chief cannot teleport back to his respawn point, and has lost possession of his tablet.
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No. 802782 ID: bfb318
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802782

Or at least, that is what would have happened, if not for the fact that it was not Chief who went to the meeting, but the Succubus who had shapeshifted into the Chief prior to the meeting.

She even took his tablet to add to the illusion. Upon the meeting's conclusion, Succubus was to text a coded phrase, stating that all things proceeded as intended.

The real Chief, in the meanwhile, had shapeshifted into the Succubus, and likewise took her tablet before going to wait with the rest of the contestants for the verdict. When the three leaders exit the room, and the real Chief does not receive any coded message, he knows that something is amiss.

The three take to a stage just outside of the meeting hall where they begin making their statement. When the bodies of Mafia Alison and Chief both begin talking about how tired they are of fighting gang wars in what is clearly becoming a stale mate, the real Chief knows that both of them must be complete impostors.

He also feels safe in assuming that they are both leading up to announcing that they will take the backseat to Mamba. Both impostors appear to be holding up tablets, and Chief presumes that if those are the tablets that the true gang leaders had, then Mamba was able to snatch the real leader's tablets away from them.

Chief has little idea what's going on with Mafia Alison's tablet, as Chief was hardly even aware she had one. What he does know is that Mamba must have found workarounds in neutralizing fellow contestants, and held out on Chief when it came to revealing that technology. What he also knows is that since he is disguised safely in the audience, he is perfectly capable of summoning his own tablet back.
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No. 802787 ID: 6dc8e5

Correction. That Mafia Alison is likely Mamba, and Mamba is the body double. Easy tablet confirmation and all. Yours is the only one you can prove out of place here.
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No. 802788 ID: 3abd97

>Chief can tell that Alison is having an excruciating time remaining in character.
You can tell that, as you already know, but I wonder if Mamba can tell too. Alisons are good at social skills, and she probably has an advantage reading an alternate version of herself. Mamba knows it's an act now, if she didn't already.

>>802782
Hmmmm. This is an opportunity, then.

It occurs to me Mamba would be especially vulnerable to a counter attack of the same nature, since she can't summon her tablet back. Alison, too, sort of. Theirs both can't be used as proof positive of identity- since neither can summon them back.

...actually. If you reveal yourself as Chief by summoning your tablet back. If we call these two out as imposters and get the audience to grab their tablets, neither will be able to summon theirs back to prove they're real, even if that's really Alison and/or Mamba on stage.

Have them locked up as imposters, and "regretfully" take control while you search for the new player who tried to take over all 3 sides at once and for your missing peers. (Which you won't find, since Mamba was an imposter all along).


If all else goes to hell, ask MM to bomb the meeting.
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No. 802790 ID: 1e7aa8

Oh yes. Shapeshift back into your normal form and summon your tablet, then point in the direction of the fakes and yell out "Objection!"

Follow it up with this >>802788 and/or violence.
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No. 802794 ID: 3abd97

>>802788
You can sort of make it "someone tried to take out all three mob families at once, now we must unite against this common threat."
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No. 802798 ID: 91ee5f

>>802782
Holy shit, we dodged a bullet there! It's a good thing someone said to switch places with Succubus!
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No. 802800 ID: bfb318
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802800

On second thought, Chief can only prove that his own body double is out of place. Mafia Alison and Mamba, for these purposes, are near interchangeable. There's nothing for that matter saying that it wasn't Mafia Alison who has taken up Mamba's form, and is now taking absolute control while pretending it's Mamba doing so.

Yet, it doesn't exactly change Chief's move. He, as Succubus, leaps to the stage before anyone thinks to stop him.

"Shopkeep, shapeshift me back!" Chief yells out. Shopkeep immediately does so, likely having expecting this move, as Chief finds him a sporting fellow who did not give away the ruse.

"I am the real Chief." says Chief, summoning his own tablet out of the impostor's hands, and waving it to the crowd with the ID of present cycle Chief. "And there has been an attempt to take over! Confiscate these tablets from the Alisons."

A couple of Chief's agents oblige, but just as Chief is about ready to 'regretfully' take control, both of the Alisons immediately retake their tablets and hold them up. Mamba's says 2515, as she claimed. Mafia's says 1700, as the public believes.
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No. 802803 ID: 3abd97

So either at least one of those tablets is hacked, or this is Mamba dressed up as Mafia Alison and the real, shy Alison 2515 dressed up as Mamba.

You could learn on fake-Mamba-slash-real-2515 until she cracks.

Or we could escort fake-Mamba back to her school for her own protection, since someone obviously staged this.

If you keep Mamba from being able to switch back, she's taken over Mafia Alison's side, but you can effectively control the school and her own resources.

Basically we can force a situation where she has to choose between her aspirations slash the game and her school.
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No. 802804 ID: 211d83

So Shy Alison is Mamba(thus the nervous sweat) And Mamba is hiding as Mafia.

Well you know who they are and can tell the story of how poor Shy got her identity snatched by Mafia. And when she realized that she could not take your empire over from within as Mamba she went back to her old Mafia ways and had Shy stand in for her school.

If you want you can place the blame for everything on Mamba/Mafia as you can now claim they are the same person(our Alison being stuck in your house)

Or you can just out Shy by directing crowd attention to her until she cracks. Then Claim Mamba(shy) was blackmailed by Mafia and look at how nervous the poor girl is. Sent Shy back with your guys for protection and then throw the book at Mafia/Mamba.
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No. 802805 ID: 75596b

Dont reveal yourself until shes played her hand.
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No. 802806 ID: 3abd97

>fake-Mamba-slash-real-2515
Shy Alison, who I am now dubbing Shyison.
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No. 802808 ID: 75596b

>>802805
Too late, my bad.
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No. 802809 ID: 3ce125

>>802800
Hahaha! That's the Alison that gave up her tablet, brought into the game so that if you did something like this, she could "prove her identity". That's Mamba in the mafia outfit, pretending to be her doppleganger! Very interesting. Mamba is lying by using the truth, because the truth everyone believes is a lie.

Unfortunately, we can expose this by putting pressure on Alison 2515. Interrogate her about her motivations, actions thus far, etc. Ask her how she came to an agreement with Mafia Alison.
We can also bring other witnesses up here, like their Isos or Duelists. Will they really all vouch for the expected Alison?

We could also take the real Mamba aside and ask her if she really wants the game to end this way, with an unwilling participant dragged into this just to cover for her. She's taking the game too far. From here on, Alison 2515 will have to work as her intermediary, because of the suspicion that someone could be an impostor. Anyone could ask her to prove that tablet is hers. She has effectively lost because she can no longer be Mamba.

Ultimately, even if we can't prove what's happened, the agreement will not go through.
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No. 802812 ID: 90f3c0

Question "Mamba" about the location of Succubus, who went to the meeting in your place. Hopefully she'll be too shy to fill the role convincingly, and expose herself as a fake.

Once it's revealed that both Succubus and Mamba have been replaced, it should be easy to pin the entire thing on Mafia Alison. You can then pressure her to reveal the location on Succubus and the "real" Mamba.
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No. 802813 ID: 3ce125

Oh, another thing you can do is bully Shopkeep into turning everyone back to their original forms. You have power over him because you have the manpower and territory to ruin the vast majority of his shops. This won't even be a meta exploitation like calling in Rulekeep would be. You earned the right to boss Shopkeep around.
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No. 802815 ID: 75596b

You can interrogate fake Mamba pretty easily. Doing it softly would be fine, she'll probably crack quick. Find out who fake chief is though.
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No. 802817 ID: ff61fe

>>802815
Easy way to prove the falseness is to have 1700 name some obscure students or have the students quiz her on something.

Either way you have evidence 1700 and 2515 are in collusion since you were the only one taken out.
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No. 802818 ID: 91ee5f

>>802800
"Shame on you ladies. This was supposed to be a negotiation, but instead one of you tried to replace me with an impostor so shame on whoever did that. And since one of you didn't try to stop that from happening, I can only assume that either you were also replaced or you're helping the other by remaining quiet and allowing them to take over all 3 of our territories!"

Can we ask Shopkeep if either of them is shape shifted? Because if we accuse one of them of also being an impostor to help the remaining Alison take over everything, then being able to change them back forcibly might help. Even though it might not work, having the audience believe there might be another impostor might put some pressure on them.

Actually, Tablet 1700 looks different from Chief's tablet and Tablet 2515. It's got a grey border around it instead of solid white like the others. Was current cycle Alison using her tablet the whole time and just labeled it 1700? That would mean Mafia has the wrong tablet! But how to prove it?
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No. 802820 ID: 6dc8e5

Big picture now is to make a big deal of the part where your second in command and designated proxy was replaced, and demand to know what they have done with her. Shouldn't reveal that we know other switches have happened yet, so better to start by accusing them of doing something to Succubus.
In the likely event that fake-mamba cracks (further) then we can start pressuring the story out (if that even seems helpful in a rapidly evolving situation) Honestly, I don't really know that fake-mamba ultimately inheriting the school would be such a bad thing. But these false peace accords end.
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No. 802821 ID: bfb318
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802821

>Different looking tablet
The appearance can be customized to a slight degree easily enough.

Chief would not rule out the possibility that the tablets have been hacked somehow, but judging by their mannerisms, he'd bet that Mafia Alison is really Mamba, and Mamba is the real 2515 Alison, the shy one.

"Everyone stay back! It's clear that someone tried to make a fool out of me. Mamba, how did you come to an agreement with Mafia Alison to backstab me?"
>"Er, well..."
>"She doesn't have to answer if she doesn't want to." says Mafia-Mamba.
>"I think she should!" someone from the audience cries out.
>"I uh..." Shy-Alison starts speaking again. "Don't actually know what's going on, here! Why weren't you in with us at the meeting?"
"Who is that Chief, there? Certainly not the one I sent in as my body double!"
>"You sent in a body double?" asks Mamba. "That's already a sign of broken trust from you."
"And well justified, it seems. Who is that Chief?"

The impostor summons his tablet to show Iso, #3095.

"Shopkeep, how about you transform everyone back to their default form?"
>"Uh sorry, not unless they want to. Rules and all." he answers.
"Fine. So what is the meaning of this, Mamba? You seem like you're having a tough time."
>"Leave her out of this, alright?" says Mafia-Mamba.
>"I really think I should leave." says Shyison.
"And I think - "
>"That's enough!" says Mamba-Mafia. "Thank you, 2515, for going along with this, but you don't need to stand for this any longer, I'm ashamed to have dragged you out here to begin with. I will confess. Yes, everyone, I am 1700, but I am also the headmistress, and I spoofed my cycle because of a terrible reputation that preceded me. I was happy to have just a school, but Mafia Alison and Chief were far too destructive. I attempted to remove both Chief and Alison, it's true, because they really are being villains in this town. Don't worry, whoever was Chief's double, and the one pretending to be the cliched Mafia Alison, are simply in a comfortable house, and they won't be leaving anytime soon. I'm ashamed I had to do this, but for the betterment of society, I had to make a big mo-"
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No. 802822 ID: bfb318
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802822

An Alison crashes through the roof.
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No. 802823 ID: bfb318
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802823

>"Did you think your trap house would keep me from escaping?!" Mafia Alison yells. "Is that me?"

She summons her tablet and holds it up, showing 1700. "I'm the real Mafia Alison!"

Mamba-Mafia, at the podium, is still in possession of her Alison 1700 tablet.
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No. 802824 ID: 211d83

"Well then Ms Mamba or Mafia or whoever you are. How do you explain this? Or are you some other cycle Alison here to kidnap the real Mamba and cause trouble?"

Then sit back and watch the show.

We might want to give Mamba a chance to back down and retake her school. But if she keeps trying despite our attempts to leave her a out. Well crush her however you have to.
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No. 802825 ID: edee29

>>802823
"Mamba, or whoever you are, did you think to check if that house could hold you before sending another Alison there?"
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No. 802826 ID: 094652

Oh crap. Third party got a crit.

You can't convince Felldown Mafia Alison that this isn't your doing, but you CAN confiscate the tablet of Fake Mafia Alison and get someone to scan it for traces of hacking.
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No. 802827 ID: 3abd97

Well, that's done it. Tablets can be faked- verifiable leadership just went out the window. That undermines trust everywhere. The Alisons just yanked the foundation out of all the criminal empires at once- no one will be able to trust they aren't being played, people will try to impersonate each other, and there will be chaotic fighting as it falls apart.

Table well and truly flipped.

>what do
Pretend like you're trying to play peacemaker while pouring gasoline on the fire. We're finally getting the ridiculous "I'm Sparticus!" fight between the different Alisons.

Text MM. We may need her to push things over the edge by bombing the stage if calmer heads somehow prevail, or when things really get going.
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No. 802828 ID: 3ce125

>>802823
Then... one of these tablets is fake. A clothing article (you can summon those back too) or an outright Glitcher-created 1700 tablet. Tell them it doesn't matter who Mafia Alison is. It's just a made up person based on a single thought with no context, and the context itself has been lost to the CAI Fight, which we still know little about.
She's wrong, by the way. This chaos has strengthened our society. It's brought about better security measures and a form of currency that can't be faked. Also, she should be more honest. She was edging in on your power base ever since she started the school, and you have a personal testament to her ambitious nature. That can end now, though. You've bested her, she can admit defeat and we can move on to a more peaceful society. Mongrel has been driven out and you don't plan on bullying any more shops yourself.

You're still gonna make occasional attempts to beat the Stadium Enforcers though. Because why not? It's a challenge!
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No. 802830 ID: 3ce125

>this means nobody can prove their own identity
Oh god, no. Alison what have you DONE?!
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No. 802831 ID: 1e7aa8

Get everyone's attention. Then loudly announce that you considering the absolutely untrustworthy tomfoolery afoot, you request divine intervention in the other of everyone present having a nametag applied to their foreheads so as to confirm everyone's respective identity.
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No. 802832 ID: 91ee5f

First, look up to see if "Chief" aka Succubus is also on the way down through the hole in the roof.

Second, we can just end this game by calling Alison 1700's tablet and whichever rings is the real Mafia Alison and the other is current cycle Alison that we asked to play as Mafia Alison.

But if both tablets ring, then that means one of them has a hacked tablet. Which should be impossible, since Rulekeeper made them to be unhackable! And if that's true, then that means someone got some unfair help from the gods, since they should be the only one's able to hack the tablets!
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No. 802834 ID: 1e7aa8

>>802831
And if this plea to the glitcher falls on deaf ears...

..Dive out the fucking window and have MM blown the whole place up.

(Whoops hit reply by mistake)
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No. 802837 ID: ff61fe

you can solve this pretty easily with a knowledge quiz done by Mafia Alison's subordinates.
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No. 802882 ID: fc33ea

Exclaim that this is a security hole that is untenable, none of them are to be trusted.
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No. 802883 ID: fc33ea

Hold up, that may be Succubus in disguise going in for a total takeover. Think of some way to verify before you take her side.
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No. 802893 ID: bfdaf0

If we're seeing tablet forgery now, that oversteps the bounds of the game. I'm in favor of appealing to the gods, regardless of which side this Alison is on. TIME-OUT!
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No. 802894 ID: 0cfb6a

Hmm. What cycle was it that Mittens' side-cycles split off at, again? One of these could be HIS 1700 Alison, though that would... have a story behind it, at least.

Anyway: Alison, your Alison, is in this whole thing with an interest in clearing 1700's mafia name. To fulfill your implicit promise to her when you asked her to take part, as well as to 1700's Iso, it's time to act. You have stage, so let's make some speeches!

Declare: "It doesn't matter which of you owns that tablet! The only thing known or relevant about Alison 1700 for most people here is that she once thought something regrettable. Who among all of us, in the course of our trials, hasn't thought or felt or done something of the sort? A single log, and a flight of imagination based on it, mean nothing."

Then your own pitch, while you have attention: "Who are you now is the question, and Mamba, now, is a talented headmistress, builder and overseer of a place where many people can learn and work at a variety of skills and tasks that they find enjoyable and fulfilling - but not everyone. There are desires Mamba's school does not provide for; the desire to fight, to struggle and strive, desires I have learned are in fact quite common, and who would be surprised, considering the events that have made us all who we are? Do you, Mamba, want to provide for the fulfillment of those desires? Knowing that, as you do, it will demand such time and attention as to take you away from your school and the students who have benefited so much from your personal time and attention? That I helped build your school is something I have taken pride in, and I want to see it continue as it is. Because I do want to build things, as well as all else I do. "Mafia Alison"... is only worth something as an enemy. I'd question the wisdom, both of you, of competing to be her."

>>802831

No divine intervention, it'd spoil the game!
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No. 802933 ID: bfb318
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802933

Chief does not intend on calling on divine entities to clarify anything. If the game goes too far, Rulekeep will no doubt intervene, but until then, it's close enough to a game. Chief will just have to wonder how compromised tablets are. It's possible they're fully hackable, but also, it could just be that Mafia Alison was given a duplicate 1700 tablet, and everyone else's are still untouchable.

Still, Rulekeep has been there for the populace and not the top elite crowd, and many recognize this.

>"Rulekeep, please!" a sharp voice calls out from the audience, the implications of which silence much of the crowd, including the two Alisons and Chief.

Yet it doesn't matter, as silence falls on the venue. Rulekeeper does not answer, nor do any of the glitchers. The implications of that make tensions palpable. Chief messages MM, indicating he may need some bombs.

"We don't need Rulekeeper for this." Chief offers. "We can tell which one is Mamba and which one is Mafia by choice questions."
>"Yeah." says Mamba-Mafia, who changes back to Mamba's form.
"Mamba, you are wrong, by the way, this chaos has strengthened our society. We have better security and a form of currency that isn't so easily faked. You've ousted yourself as wishing for power, but that can end. If you want peace so badly, then concede to me and, as I've always said, and focus on your school."
>"Concede to you? Concede to me." says Mafia.
>"Ugh, there'll be no peace with you two in town, and with just one, there'll always be other people as enemies! No, both of you need to go!" Mamba says.
>"There'd sooner be peace between Chief and I, than that, missy."

Succubus sends a text to Chief describing what Chief already knows now, and she is running back to the venue now.

There's some shouting from in the audience, starting from Mamba's Iso yelling about how he knows that his 1700 is the real 1700. As a test, they send a message to 1700. Apparently, if they send a message to the public listing of 1700, both Alisons receive it. If they send a contact request to the public listing, then both receive it, but if they both accept it, it'll appear as two different 1700s on the sender's phone, and they can pick which one to send a message to, which just sends it to the one.

Nonetheless, as both teams of 1700 start arguing about which one is really 1700, they start fighting.

"I told you guys, it doesn't matter who's really from 1700!"
>"It kinda does!" another person from the audience shouts. "At least one of them is a fake, and who wants to follow a faker?!"

Although not unanimous, a solid portion of the crowd hollers their approval, while many voices start ringing out.

>"Yeah, we don't want to follow someone who thinks this is some kind of game!" says one of the most unfortunate souls Chief has ever encountered.
>"It's gotta be Mafia, she was just our Alison envisioning what a previous Alison was like!"
>"Yeah, but Mamba acted like she was 2515 for a long time! Now we're just supposed to believe she's 1700, now, after that display?"
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No. 802938 ID: 211d83

If she is faking this much then I wonder if she is has been faking all the effort with her school as well. Just manipulating people so she could take over the town.
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No. 802939 ID: fc33ea

>"There'd sooner be peace between Chief and I, than that, missy."
Now there's an idea. Mafia, do you want to run the school instead? you're at least as competent and twice as honest, and it has no place in such power hungry hands.
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No. 802941 ID: 3abd97

>who wants to follow a faker
Almost everyone, technically. I'm not sure there was anything like a successful leader who didn't practice some degree of deception as a matter of survival.

>fighting over which Alison is real
It would seem you both have a crisis of trust in your houses. Perhaps you should see such fundamental matters are resolved before you aspire to grander designs.

If you have any grand demonstrations, it may be time.

(Egg them on).

>what do
If it all possible, we want the Alisons in an all out brawl (it's the most cathartic and amusing way to end this). At the very least, destabilizing both of them by leaving them with organizations that don't trust them and pulling as much support to yourself is an option.

>"Ugh, there'll be no peace with you two in town, and with just one, there'll always be other people as enemies! No, both of you need to go!" Mamba says.
Hmmm. I wonder if that's how she really feels, or her just playing the game for hearts and minds. I expect the latter, but I suppose we can't rule out the former completely.
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No. 802942 ID: 3ce125

>>802933
Okay, that's it.

Everyone here is "fake", dear audience. Everyone here has been playing a game. You, Mamba, Mafia. Call Iso-1700 up to vouch for Mamba's character, and state that it's obvious Mafia Alison isn't from 1700. You too are guilty of playing around with the power you've gotten. For good reason. This society has no permanent consequences for anything. Who would just sit on a throne and do nothing but keep things running smoothly? That's BORING. Do they really want a boring society?
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No. 802946 ID: 3ce125

Other ammo you could throw out: Guitar Knight has been deceptive too. He summoned the Alison from cycle 1700 and has likely been working with her in some way.

It occurs to me that this audience could be full of Mamba's agents, running on instructions on various ways they could manipulate the confrontation between you and Mamba. Why don't we go back to the original plan of negotiating a peace agreement?
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No. 802947 ID: fc33ea

>>802946
The peace agreement is out the window, Mamba's burned any possibility of her negotiating in good faith.
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No. 802948 ID: fc33ea

Now that I think about it, forget arguing with those two; win over the crowd to scoop up their entire power bases. Tell them you're the only one who's negotiating in good faith, that those two are scheming behind the scenes under the guise of the greater good only to grab up more power. You want legit, you want Chief.
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No. 802950 ID: bfb318
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802950

"Hey, Mafia, what if you ran the school, instead?"

The two Alisons stare at Chief as though he summoned a dozen tablets at once.

"We all fake a little bit, from us at the top to those at the bottom. Either way, you two have a big crisis of trust going on. You should see that these fundamental matters are resolved before you aspire to grander designs. If you have any grand demonstrations, it might be time!"
>"All I have is my school." says Mamba.
>"And you'll lose it, if you keep overplaying your hand." says Mafia. "And you threw out any chances of us taking your negotiations seriously, with that last stunt!"
"I think that both of you lost much of it, as I was the only one who negotiated in good faith."
>"What the hell are you on about?" says Mafia. "I was there myself, you sent your minion in your place, acting like you were there!"
>"And I'm not... I apologize again, to everyone, for my underhanded technique." Mamba starts saying. "But I think everyone is agreed with what I'm trying to do. Everyone has seen the benefit of when people, either hobbyists or professionals, work together! Yes, I'm not perfect, but I've made one mistake, while you two are virtually making a life out of bad mistakes! Your constant fighting, bickering, stealing! It doesn't excuse me from brushing my scales against some dirt, but don't you dare talk down to me from your dumpster! You too, Chief, I can already tell you're trying to get me and Mafia to fight just to scoop up the power."
>"You're doing a good job of starting a fight by saying I live in a dumpster, you heart-string pulling, manipulative girl."
"At least I'm authentic!"
>"Does anyone even care about your authenticity?"

There's a brief silence, before everyone hears a loud clap sooner than the process the source. Mamba slapped Mafia.

Chief isn't sure how much of this is a game anymore. He reflexively notes that he has approximately 1.5 seconds of stunned silence to work with before everything is about to implode on itself.
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No. 802951 ID: a363ac

>>802949
WRESTLE!
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No. 802953 ID: 31b528

>>802951
Oh yes. As loud and as deep as you can, "THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN SPOKEN. TO THE RING!"

... And while they're busy fighting, you monetize it.
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No. 802954 ID: 3abd97

>Chief isn't sure how much of this is a game anymore.
If Alison really thought she was hurting Mamba's feelings, I don't think she'd still be in-character.

Maybe some of this is Mamba's real feelings, but it still serves to break up the ridiculous Mafia Myth.

>He reflexively notes that he has approximately 1.5 seconds of stunned silence to work with before everything is about to implode on itself.
Might be time to make things explode instead, then. MM bomb run for capital chaos.

And/or SweaterRef popping in to declare this is now a wrestling match.
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No. 802955 ID: fc33ea

>>802953
Be sure to round up as many people as you can to boo and hiss at them.
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No. 802956 ID: 211d83

Yeah this has gotten to the point that only wrestling can fix it.
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No. 802957 ID: f08985

The thing we really have to decide is whether this will be mud or oil wrestling.
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No. 802958 ID: 91ee5f

>>802951
>>802952
That could backfire and everyone will want a repeat of what happened with Mongrel, GK, and Murdermouse, a 3 way free for all! Chief would stand a chance against either Alison!

We should try to make it where only Mafia and Mamba wrestle. Whoever wins gets to keep everything and have a truce with Chief, while the loser has to give up everything and split it between the winner and Chief.
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No. 802959 ID: 1e7aa8

Oh lord. The only thing that'd top off this shitstorm is if Opera Alison suddenly crashed through the ceiling and crushed them both.

It's time to get the hell out of dodge. Meet up with sucubus and begin reconvincing your staf that you are legit. Try and find a way to capitalize on this chaos in the meantime.
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No. 802960 ID: 3ce125

Hey, what if both of these 1700-Alisons are Mamba? If she's using a duplicate body, that would mean both tablets are real, and this confrontation is entirely hers to manipulate.
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No. 802961 ID: 3ce125

...can you send a message to the current cycle's Alison?
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No. 802962 ID: fc33ea

>>802957
Mud, to thematically match the mud-slinging going down right now.
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No. 802973 ID: 3efd75

What you may want to do is try one of those big uniting speeches. Obviously this is a clusterfuck, but if you show leadership and a strong pillar to base everything around you might be able to fold both of their followers into your gang and make a new power structure with you still at top.
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No. 802985 ID: 3ce125

>>802973
If we're gonna do something like this, we should focus on three things:
1) Chief realized after all the work he did on the RS that he felt unfulfilled. Going back to his roots, as the leader of a syndicate, satisfies him on a personal level. It is what his template was meant to be. He is not faking ANYTHING, whether he takes this activity super seriously or not.
2) Despite his position and true nature he does not wish to harm society at all, even for his own benefit. He's been striving to be at worst a nuisance, at best a force of beneficial change. What, after all, were the shopkeeper NPCs going to do with their tickets? They don't buy anything, and they're NPCs anyway, they're not sapient. The worst thing you did was keep them from being as effective a ticket sink, so over time the value of tickets may have gone down on its own.
3) Neither of the Alisons present are being true to themselves. They are generosity anomalies. They should stop being selfish.
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No. 802987 ID: f08985

>>802985
>3) Neither of the Alisons present are being true to themselves. They are generosity anomalies. They should stop being selfish.
This is literally peer pressure, leave that shit at home. There's no reason they should feel obligated to act like other Alisons.
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No. 802988 ID: 3ce125

>>802987
Well, Chief would know whether or not that's true. I expect every Alison is at least somewhat generous, because the base template itself is so anomalous.
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No. 802990 ID: 0cfb6a

I still think the speech I wrote up before the last couple of updates was good (>>802894). Covered the basic points, that being 1700 hardly matters, the conflict is something people find fulfilling and valuable in itself, that Mamba would be giving up something she likes and is good at for something much less certain.

Could repurpose it to use now. Kinda seems like you missed it entirely.
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No. 802993 ID: fc33ea

>>802990
I don't think we ought to be making excuses for or defending either of them.
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No. 802994 ID: 3abd97

I don't think it's time for a speech. There isn't time for a speech (1.5 seconds).

Chief has time to do something decisive or get off a one liner.
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No. 802997 ID: bfb318
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802997

>What if both of these 1700-Alisons are Mamba?
Then it means she convinced a diety to give her a duplicate body, like Sweatermouse had to do with Glitcher. While possible, Chief would be disappointed if there wasn't a good reason for this.

Chief recovers instantly. Being able to do so means that he can intercept the second and a half of stunned silence, and change the flow of momentum into something different. Unfortunately, trying to segue from a slap into a uniting speech is difficult in 1.5 seconds when tempers are so high. Therefore, Chief only changes the context in which this fight will occur.

"WRESTLE!" he yells.

"What the?!" Sweatermouse pops into existence above the stage, by where the Alisons immediately tackle each other in a whirlwind of hair and snake tail.
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No. 802998 ID: bfb318
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802998

The audience starts to erupt, and even Shyison comes back onto stage from where she left.

>"Stop fighting, you two, please!" she says with surprising determination considering her supposedly subdued nature. It's still to no avail.
>"Stay out of this, timid one!" yells Opera Alison, making her appearance through the ceiling. "If the fate of the town is to be decided by a wrestling match, then I'll throw in my bid!"
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No. 802999 ID: bfb318
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802999

Chief crawls under, through, and over a mass of people clambering forward to either assist Alisons or pull Alisons off other Alisons. In their mixed set of goals, the entire venue devolves into a giant brawl. He meets up with Succubus, still in Chief's form, outside of the building. They confirm each others' tablets.

>"Okay. What is going on, Chief?"
"The two Alisons got in a fight. As they are always the shining example of which to follow, the rest of the venue joined in."

Chief sends a message to Murdermouse.

"I think I'm going to ask for that bombing run."
>"On it."

As a test, Chief also sends a message to present-cycle Alison.

"Testing."
>"Hi Chief, what can I help you with?"
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No. 803003 ID: 211d83

So what you up to?

Cause I think somewhere along the line you might have gone on vacation and left one of your sisters in your place.

Also if you want to get in on a sweet Alison only wrestle match get over here quick.
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No. 803005 ID: 3ce125

>>802999
What the fuck?

Tell her you want to break character for a moment and ask her something. Is she using a second body for the Mafia Alison thing? It's getting a little too meta with the hacked tablet cycle confusion going on.
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No. 803006 ID: 3abd97

>>802999
Clever. She left someone to man her phone.

...if we really wanted to cause confusion, we could ask her over to try and break up a family fight. Could lead to antics like Iso trying to impersonate Alison. Although there are lots of alts, and they could probably find one close enough to 3119 to fill in for her, which would prevent things going off the rails.

...if we really wanted to be a jerk, we'd send troops to raid the other sides' storehouses and such while this distraction is going on.
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No. 803007 ID: 91ee5f

>>802999
>Sent a message to present-Alison, who should be too busy wrestling with Mamba right now to answer, and she answers anyways.
If you can see them from where you are, look to see if someone else is using her tablet while she's wrestling.

But if that's not the case, then there's only one explanation. The Mafia Alison that you've been interacting with from the very start is a double that Glitcher created for present cycle-Alison! After all, when we asked her to be Mafia Alison, we never said that she couldn't use a body double to do so. Meaning her main body has been hanging out with Glitcher this whole time and at the same time, she's been controlling her double to be Mafia Alison!
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No. 803016 ID: bfb318
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803016

"... are you a body double?"
>"Hm? No, I'm just Alison."

There's a video feed showing present cycle Alison, in a calm part of town.

"I'd like to break character for a moment."
>"I'm sorry, Chief, but I have no idea what you're talking about."
"... well anyway, there's an Alison only wrestling match over here if you want to join in."
>"You know what, I'm in!"

Chief finds something off about Alison's mannerisms, especially in that last statement. He thinks that he is speaking to someone impersonating present cycle Alison, rather than a body double like Murdermouse.

There may not be much for Chief to do here. In just a moment, the whole place will be getting bombed, and Chief could use this distraction to lead operations through town while the Alisons are busy.
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No. 803017 ID: 3abd97

Might also be time to set up the succession play. So by the time the Alisons are sorted out, you'll have tidied up your empire, and already have a way to dodge Mamba's accusations of making everything worse yourself by handing things off to a new administration.
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No. 803021 ID: 3ce125

>>803016
>I'm in
Maybe implying that she's already in it. That could be current-cycle Iso or Arbiter morphed into Alison's form to cover for her. I'm thinking Arbiter since we haven't seen him and this kind of work is a bit out of character for him anyway. I'm sure Arbiter would love to get in that snake pile, too, if you know what I mean.

Anyway, since both Alisons are distracted, why don't you get back to work? See if you can go digging around in Mamba's office. Or Mafia's. I'd suggest attempting to recover goods from Mafia but she'd just steal them back later as always. We need some solid evidence on the legitimacy or lack thereof of their claims.
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No. 803022 ID: fc33ea

You have to do something about Mamba. That kind of deception and ambition can't be left right under your nose anymore. I think it's time to be less hands off in her projects.
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No. 803027 ID: 91ee5f

>>803016
You know what? Let's just leave the Alisons to tie themselves up in a big knot and just get on with doing whatever it is we're going to do.
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No. 803037 ID: 211d83

Eh whatever. Alison obviously left someone or something in charge so she could go play mafia.

You should ignore the wrestling match and spend this time sending out your troops to take over everything while the Alisons are busy wrestling.

If you work fast you can own the town before they notice.
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No. 803041 ID: 1e7aa8

>>803037
We already own 80% of the town. Attempting to get that last 20% literally just happened a bit ago, did NOT pan out and almost allowed Mamba's takeover plan to work.

So with that said, get everyone you can to comb through the territory you DO own. Call outs for anything out of place, suspicious or otherwise. Secure *every* last building and double down on reconnecting with your staff.
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No. 803042 ID: bfb318
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803042

"Let's go, Succubus." Chief says, walking away with her as Sweatermouse drops the bombs. "And solidify our empire."

Chief begins ordering all of the people he can do to start doubletiming various internal tasks. Instead of attempting to take over any new territory or so on, he starts tightening his grip on the territory he does own. Mafia's storerooms that were hidden right under Chief's nose are hit, and many of Mamba's classrooms are told that they are under Chief's direct control from now on. Agents are also send to do a full seach in Mamba's office, and to find out if Mafia has an equivalent. A protege will also be chosen by Chief to succeed him at some point.

Chief has no idea where Guitar Knight is, but if he stays out of this, then that's fine with Chief.

Succubus keeps an eye on the match via one of the camera worms flying in.
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No. 803045 ID: bfb318
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803045

MM's bombing run has left a mesa, perhaps at ground zero, in which the Alisons are having their match. Present cycle is already joining in, and it can be reasonably assumed that this will be a king of the hill match between Alisons.

Sweatermouse makes virtually no attempt to do any real refereeing, and just stands awkwardly in the middle.

>"Wait a second!" says Mamba. "Wait! Where the hell is chief?!"
>"Who cares?!" Opera yells.
>"Oh he better not be hitting the streets while we're hitting each other!" Mafia says back.
>"Iso!" Mamba calls out. "Call up the team, keep things going! Tell Chief that if he's going to dare backstab us while we're fighting, we'll all team up on him afterwards!"
>"Yeah!" says Mafia.
>"Yeah!" Opera echoes. "And you, shy Alison, present Alison?"
>"It depends on what he does!" says present Alison.
>"I just want you all to stop!" Shyison says.
>"We're all agreeing that the gang wars are going to be settled here and now!" says Mafia. "If Chief doesn't get his butt in here, he's forfeiting! Agreed?!"

All Alisons agree, except for Shyison.

Chief receives the message from Iso 1700 a moment later. There are a decent amount of people that Chief could name that would want to enter a wrestling match with 5 Alisons, but among those names, Chief himself is not one of them. He may still forego that, and convince the populace that they need not follow the ruler that won an impromptu wrestling match.
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No. 803048 ID: 0cfb6a

Everyone's seen how OP Alisons are in the wrestledome, I think you could easily make a case that you couldn't be expected to join the snake ball.

... Hmm. I don't suppose you could just get a bulldozer or something and drive it in at them from the side, literally rolling them into a ball and pushing them somewhere?
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No. 803050 ID: 3ce125

>>803045
Tell them you don't wrestle, at all. They don't get to decide the rules of the gang war and they certainly don't represent the wishes of the populace. Most of them were never even involved to begin with. You gave Mamba a chance to settle this peacefully, and you're STILL open to negotiations, but right now she can take this ridiculous challenge and shove it right up her scaly ass.
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No. 803052 ID: a363ac

why not chief go see what this wrestling thing is all about. just try to run away from anyone going for you cause you aren't that strong. Or radmin this and get backup in the form of those people who want to wrestle.
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No. 803055 ID: 3abd97

Chief is probably better off using this kind of craziness to disqualify the Alisons from leadership. Isn't this the exact crazy instability and craziness Mamba just made a speech against?

Alternatively, if we want to give them someone who would probably enjoy being in a writhing pile of Alisons, we could stick Succubus in a swimsuit and throw her at them. I mean, they'll complain it doesn't count, but she'll have fun.
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No. 803058 ID: f08985

"I don't really care what you agree. Hijinks like this are exactly what disqualifies you from leadership, especially after you preached against this exact sort of thing."
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No. 803059 ID: 91ee5f

>>803045
>Tell Chief that if he's going to dare backstab us while we're fighting, we'll all team up on him afterwards!
She's joking, right? Chief wouldn't be doing this if she never tried to backstab in the first place! If we had just settled everything peacefully, this wouldn't be happening! So as a result of her own actions she's going to lose her school! She's got no one to blame but herself!

.....should we be telling her Iso this stuff, so that he can tell her?

>>803058
Also, this.
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No. 803062 ID: 1e7aa8

If, for any reason, you *have* to be part of the wrestling match to maintain your power base, it will only be fair that you increase your size and mass by 1.75 to 2.0 times so that the alisons do not have an unfair advantage over you.

Become the big chief you were always meant to be!
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No. 803064 ID: 211d83

Send Succubus in to wrestle for you.

Continue solidifying your empire.
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No. 803065 ID: fc33ea

Make a speech to pull popular support to your side. You run 80% of everything, everyone else is wrestling in the dirt like a pack of morons, claiming they're fighting for all the points. Everyone, look at yourselves, look at your loyalties. Why fight for someone who's identity isn't even known?

Also tell GK that the final showdown to end the gang wars is taking place to add more fodder onto the idiot pile.
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No. 803066 ID: 91ee5f

>>803064
Don't send Succubus, there's no reason to get in on that fight.

>>803065
That's more or less telling GK that Chief doesn't have an opponent and he'll come after Chief because he's technically on Mamba's side and is against Chief and Mafia!
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No. 803081 ID: bfb318
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803081

Chief replies to Iso, saying that hijinks like this are what disqualifies her and similarly minded Alisons from a position of rulership. He wouldn't be doing what he's currently doing, in any case, if he hadn't been backstabbed. He almost sends a message to GK, but he's sure GK is hearing about this anyway.

>"Heh, for a second I thought you might've wrestled." says Succubus.
"I never will. Don't tell me you want to wrestle Alisons?"
>"If you gave me your tablet, they'd never have to know."
"No, even if that didn't complicate sending out orders on my own tablet, I don't want to indulge them. It seems like a bug has been caught, as Alisons typically aren't so impulsive."
>"Ooookay." Succubus almost sounds a little disappointed. "Is it because you're short?"
"Of course not. I could stop by shopkeep and grow."
>"... or become an Alison yourself."
"That would be an option, wouldn't it?"
>"You wouldn't even be the first male Alison."

Chief moves on to appeal to the public that this wrestling act is why they're not suited to be leaders. He gives speeches on unification and finally finding peace. However, Chief soon learns that there is an illogical component that is complicating this to catastrophic levels.

The great majority of this town was resurrected after living a life stage to stage before dying. This town is the first place that was not just shown to be created by someone tangible, but where they could express autonomy. They were introduced in as merely a wrestling audience, and while many strayed from the wrestledome and the scene itself, the others breathed it in. This town is the first place that they truly lived, and they were virtually raised off of wrestling.

Hence, wrestling is held in an obscenely high esteem. The brutish aggression turning into a wrestling match is seen as somehow honorable despite how ludicrous and impulsive it is. Wrestling for many is not just life, but law. Once Chief openly denounces the legitimacy of this wrestling match, Chief is met with a tidal wave of aggression that he would never have dreamed of getting for something like this.

Chief still has his gang and friends, regardless, and many others have become disenchanted by Mamba's fallibility and Mafia's aggression.

In the end, the town has been split down the middle between the gang and the wrestlemaniacs. Many, pumped up by the widely televised Alison matchup, are now just being violent hooligans in the street.

There was a good deal of violence on the day that Mafia Alison and Murdermouse entered the scene. That time pales in comparison to the pandemonium now inflicted. If that was a war, then this is an gradual apocalypse.

There are reports coming in that Chief's core buildings are under attack. Although many attacks are getting repelled, there's still gradual and significant damage being inflicted on the casinos, speakeasy, and other amenities, as various forces are attempting to drag Chief by his head tuft into the wrestling ring before it's over. The creation of those structures feels like a surprisingly long time ago considering how short of a blip this whole game has been in Chief's life, and seeing them get destroyed results in a mix of emotions. At this rate, Chief won't have much left.
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No. 803083 ID: a363ac

>>803081
admit it chief the world began with wrestling administrators now the only way to bring it back is Wrestling contestants you have to do it or someone will get you and drag you to the ring.
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No. 803084 ID: 3ce125

>>803081
You uh, should've immediately relented as soon as it was made clear that you were turning the city against you. It's the will of the people, haven't you learned anything about the will of the people?

Becoming a male Alison for the wrestling match would've made sense, even.
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No. 803085 ID: 3abd97

Geeze, how hard is it to get the idea across that wrestling doesn't make you suitable for doing the organizing stuff.

Might need to placate the masses a bit.

...or pay Radmin off to generate more bad wrestling press. Although if the MM bombings and the Alison fight haven't done that already it might be too late.

If we burn down the mafias and turn everything back to the wrestling it started out as, is that sort of a win? No empire left to claim.
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No. 803088 ID: fc33ea

Ask succubus if this has gone entirely too far for something you started because you were bored.

It looks like you're going to enter the ring before this is over. Grab all the modifications you'll need from shopkeep, ensure Mamba doesn't turn on you in the ring by informing her of the bombs you left. Get anything from her office yet?
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No. 803090 ID: edee29

>>803081
>dissing the sacred rite known as wrestling
Yeah, that was a bad move. This might be salvageable, though. Publicly declare that you erred in insulting wrestling, and that you shall atone in the way that you know how.

Then don a luchador mask and start cleaning the streets yourself.
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No. 803095 ID: 0cfb6a

Well, I guess you could argue that the fact you could lose it made it more meaningful to have it. At least you've learned a lot.

Perhaps for the future, you should consider the idea of creating more mass entertainments than wrestling. Other forms of television, maybe. Films. Start off with wrestling-related stories to draw in the audience, then move along. There have to be some contestants interested in being actors and writers and so on. You could even get Mamba involved in some educational television. Maybe Succubus can do sex ed. You could become a media mogul. For next time, maybe.

What to do right now, though. You're not really in a position to restore order or anything yourself. Maybe you could find someone else who could. Radmin... no, not Radmin. But... Sevener, maybe? I wonder what she thinks of all this. The chaos, the Alisons squabbling, the mafia shenanigans. The gods won't and shouldn't intervene, but perhaps an administrator who was once a star in the ring could descend from on high to rally everyone and restore order.

It's a little odd that she hasn't been involved yet.
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No. 803096 ID: 1e7aa8

Yeah it's not time to throw a massive hissyfit and burn our entire empire to the ground because you disagree with wrestling.

And if you stay up there in your tower while this goes on you are gonna lose your empire anyway.

So might as well bite the bullet, get out there and start kicking this social apocalypse in the balls!
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No. 803098 ID: 91ee5f

I'm starting to think that at this point, there's nothing left to salvage and everyone is going to lose. Maybe it would be best to force everyone to start over? Let's destroy everything. Mamba's school, Mafia's stolen merchandise, Chief's building, the arcade, the fair grounds, etc. The only thing that shouldn't be destroyed is the wrestle dome.

This will force everyone to start at square 1 as equals and rebuild everything from the ground up. Only this time, no more mafia or gang related stuff.
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No. 803100 ID: 3ce125

Hmm. You know, tearing the city down to build it back up again afterwards is an interesting idea for one reason: it was originally created by the CAI. The contestants can make it truly theirs, now.
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No. 803101 ID: fc33ea

Asking Sevener to restore order actually sounds like a good idea. We've had a good run and came out on top, but I think it's clear things need to be taken in hand.
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No. 803105 ID: 211d83

Get yourself a mask and start throwing rioters off buildings. Then go wrestle it up for the glory of your gang.

Don't knock it until you try it once Chief.
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No. 803107 ID: 39841c

You can restore order without Wrestling yourself. Maybe you should appoint a champion to wrestle in your name, if you have to?

Hopefully you should be able to restore order without doing anything like that yourself.
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No. 803108 ID: 91ee5f

>>803098
Alternatively, instead of wrestling, you could just offer yourself as the prize. Whichever Alison wins gets to take the losers territory and have a peaceful partnership with you!

Or, if you really want to step down, the winner gets the losers territory and your territory!

And since the prize is going to go to whichever Alison wins, that includes any Alison! So the prize could go to Opera, Shy, Mamba, Mafia, current cycle, or any Alison that happens to join the fight! Last Alison standing gets everything!

You might need to send these messages to Mamba's Iso so he can tell everyone.

>>803101
If we're going to do that, then be specific. Are we giving Sevener control of everything Chief owns? And are we giving it to current cycle Sevener or a Sevener from a different cycle?
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No. 803111 ID: fc33ea

>>803108
The Sevener who won the championship thing to become an admin or whatever, thereby winning the respect of everybody.

Also she can smack the crap out of anyone who steps out of line.
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No. 803117 ID: 91ee5f

>>803111
Ah, current cycle Sevener. Yeah that'd work. Especially since she's been complaining about not having anything to administrate!
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No. 803121 ID: 1e7aa8

You guys are forgetting someone to be chief's wrestling champion.

Glamison!
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No. 803122 ID: 91ee5f

>>803117
Of course, if we do give everything to her, he's gonna legitimize everything and it won't be a mafia gang anymore. Everything will be run by the books and legal.

Maybe that's what's needed right now? A legal organization run by someone that will keep everyone in line.
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No. 803123 ID: 3ce125

>>803122
Honestly, that's fine.
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No. 803124 ID: bfb318
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803124

Chief contemplates his options for some time. The contents of Mamba's office were boring documentation, and not any grand, nefarious schemes.

>"The offer for me to act as you and wrestle in your name is still open." says Succubus. "I don't think they'll approve of sending someone else, at this point."
"No, but I'm also attempting to keep my name away from it."
>"Even in this game?"
"I suppose so, yes. It would seem weak, anyways, for me to give in to the world around me, and put on a mask to play in the sport I just denounced simply because the alternative was to have my empire burn. If I were desperate to turn this around, then I'd appear weak rather than finished, but as it is..."

With a quick lookup, Chief locates Sevener 3119.

"Hello, Sevener?"
>"Chief. What do you want?"
"Have you been paying attention to the gang wars in town?"
>"I've been trying not to. Why?"
"Things, finally, are starting to crash around me. However, this has taught a lot of lessons, and the people will want to rebuild. Would you like to assist?"
>"You know that Alison tried to drag me in to that mess, right? It's a stupid game."
"It doesn't need to be a game any longer. The rebuilding efforts should, in the long term, be taken seriously."
>"... alright, yeah fine, I'll take a look at what's going on, at least, and see what there is to rebuild."

Chief begins preparing a speech for how Sevener will take over the rebuilding process, then, and hopefully he will still be in a position to give a speech by the time it's appropraite. It takes some time, and Alisons in the ring start getting knocked out as he hastily crafts his speech. Present Alison, then Opera, then Mafia all are thrown off the mesa until it's just Mamba and, in a surprise turnaround, Shy. The latter is even managing to push Mamba down.
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No. 803126 ID: bfb318
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803126

Chief starts paying attention to the broadcast.

"I'm not going to give up, dangit!" says Mamba, as she struggles to stay above the ground below. "I want to rule so that I can run my school in peace!"

Iso runs up to her, and takes her hands.

>"Wait! Stop! Mamba... just concede, please! Stop getting pulled into this power game." Iso says, and Shyison stops pushing down enough to let them speak.
>"Iso, it's not enough to just have any school, I have to have it perfect. If I didn't do everything in my power to maximize the strength of my school, then how could I ever live with myself?"
>"It doesn't need to be perfect! Anyone can learn how to live without being perfect, but no one can be perfect! Just let someone else run a whole empire, and focus on your school, you won't be able to run the school you want if you have to worry about all these power hungry people! You always wanted this, so please please don't throw it away just because it can't compete with your amazing expectations! Please don't let everything fall apart again by being so uncompromising. You can keep thinking of me as a failu - "
>"Stop right there. Iso. My log wasn't just translated badly. You always tried to keep me grounded, but I kept reaching for the sun. It was me who failed you. If this is the same, then okay. I won't do it again. I concede, Shy. You win."
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No. 803127 ID: bfb318
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>"Um, er... I kind of just was trying to get people to stop fighting. I'm sorry. I don't know if Chief is watching, but I think he'd be an okay leader, I just think everyone should follow one person, at least one person at a time, and, uhm... I'm re - really not feeling well, I think I'm going to leave now. Please follow Chief, everyone."
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No. 803129 ID: a363ac

>>803127
well I guess all thats left is to shut GK down
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No. 803130 ID: 3ce125

>>803127
What.

Alright, I guess that's a win. Time to give your speech. Be sure to mention how you hope the bandit queen known as Mafia Alison will stop her nonsense and go back to doing whatever she was doing before she got a hacked tablet and put on the pinstripe suit. The time for games is over, it is time for this fractured community to come together and rebuild a new, greater society. One without the invisible hands of the CAI upon it, one we can call our own.

You should probably make some sort of apology about your statements about wrestling. You will make an effort not to offend the wrestling community in the future.
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No. 803133 ID: fc33ea

Whelp, time to pass the torch to Sevener. As long as it's a gang in charge- and one that has disrespected the hallowed name of wrasslin' no less- I doubt there will be true healing. Gang leaders will still have the best networking to get stuff done, but they'll be working together now hopefully.
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No. 803135 ID: 211d83

Now that its all over show up to the ring in a wrestling mask. Then look disappointed throw your mask down in disgust at the lack of opponents and leave.
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No. 803136 ID: 3abd97

Craziness over, I guess. You win right as you're ready to step away and lets things calm down again.

You've had your fun, and gotten some ideas for how to improve your other projects. And you can probably do something crazy again if and when you get bored, although it will be harder to come up with an entirely new thing to exploit since we already did this one.

Have to ask Alison how she was Mafia and herself someday. Not really important in the short term.
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No. 803137 ID: 3abd97

And Alison managed to get through that without unmasking and completely wrecking Mafia's credibility, which I wasn't expecting.
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No. 803143 ID: 1e7aa8

>>803137
Her name is Mamba now. She's got the credibility for it. If Alison drops the mafia guise, then that's it. There IS no mafia alison anymore.

As long as certain people in the loop don't spill the beans, that is.

Anyway, time to give a speech. Maybe edit it a little bit to give credit to shyison for being the clear victor of the king of the hill.
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No. 803145 ID: bfb318
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Chief feels odd just passing the buck right after he supposedly won, but at least this provides the opportunity to make his speech, including a couple of things that he would have liked to say, but was not given ideal chances to do so. Just before he speaks, he gets word that GK was attempting to find other Alisons to participate, for some reason. With Sevener in charge, it's unlikely that GK needs to be dealt with.

"Hello, everyone. I may still be at the top of some gang, but so long as the gang I'm in charge of is responsible for no small amount of destruction, it will be difficult to heal. I ordered much of it, and I also spoke poorly of the wrestling customs of this town, and I apologize for both, especially the wrestling bit. Congratulations to Shy for being the victor. Therefore, my first and only act as the sole, undisputed leader of this city is to pass the torch on to Sevener.
"I am hoping that Mafia Alison will go back to who she was, before she put on the pin striped suit. I also hope that Mamba means what she said. Even so, I never thought it mattered who owned which tablet, or what actions were taken in a previous lifetime. There's no one without regrettable mistakes, and we'll just pick ourselves up and keep moving - that's not to excuse my own actions, of course, done in the past few days.
"If this were a game up to this point, then that time is over, and it's time to rebuild. The community that Mamba set up was excellent, but it isn't for everyone. There are desires that it did not, and won't, provide for. The desire to fight, and most of all, the desire to have some struggles in one's life, as counter-intuitive as it sounds. I am hoping that the society built from this point on will cover all desired aspects of life, far beyond what a school could ever hope to do. With that, I will pass it on to Sevener, if she'd like anything to say."

>"So you gang leaders all burnt half the populated parts of town down, and now that it's a smoking wreck, you'll all generously step down and let me take it for a ride. Fuck you guys, get out of my office."

>Show up in a wrestling mask
After all that show, fighting back against the pressure to don a mask, Chief would sooner die than put on a wrestling mask now.

He will return to the RS unless he can think of anything else he would like to check out in town first. Such as, perhaps, how present Alison acted as Mafia, yet she still had someone with her authentic tablet.
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No. 803147 ID: 3abd97

>>803145
>anything to check out
We still owed Sweater a favor, didn't we?
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No. 803149 ID: 91ee5f

>>803146
I'm pretty sure after Sevener's "fuck you guys" to all the gang leaders, she doesn't want Cheif's help. Especially since he's literally the one that started all of this gang stuff.
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No. 803150 ID: f08985

>>803149
>Sweater
>Sevener
🤔
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No. 803153 ID: 91ee5f

>>803150
I have no idea what you're saying because I didn't say anything about Sweater. Please use your words.
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No. 803154 ID: 3ce125

You should have a small party to celebrate your pyrrhic victory.
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No. 803155 ID: 1e7aa8

Spend a couple of days just helping Sevener rebuild everything.

Then check in on the following people, just to see how they are doing.

sweatermouse/murdermouse, Current cycle Alison, Mamba and Iso 1700, shyison.

And I guess Radmin too, but he's probably making out like a fucking bandit somehow, someway.
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No. 803156 ID: fc33ea

>>803154
Small party? Naw, get all the leaders to work together to throw a really awesome block party. We've got the Venue, Alison has fun stuff stashed away.
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No. 803157 ID: f08985

>>803153
>he didn't read the post he originally quoted
🤔🤔🤔
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No. 803159 ID: 3ce125

>>803157
That post didn't say anything about Sweater either.
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No. 803163 ID: 31b528

>>803147
Well technically it's owed to Murder, not Sweater. But in practice we know they're one and the same.
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No. 803168 ID: 31b528

Write a book about all this. "The game is on: A first-hand account of Chief's part in the gang wars". And give a free copy to the most unfortunate soul.
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No. 803186 ID: b8b2bc

Yes, investigate that, and who all the imposters were. Also confirm that someone is going to take care of rebuilding the positive stuff, the events and things, and see about suggesting that maybe people be weaned off wrestling a little, with other entertainments. TV, film, theater and so on especially: a lot of people who aren't bothered to research history by themselves would probably do well from dramatizations of history (The gang wars! The glitcherkeeper romance! Et cetera!). Ask Sevener is she wants anything from you, and check that she has some system to be approachable (or have some underling of hers be approachable) to people who have ideas. Find Murdermouse to give her her favour. Contact Scanner and Guardsman. See that no-one's been left hanging.

And, before you go back to the RS... didn't you comment on how Mamba's approach could improve things, there? Look into that. Might as well have a talk with her, anyway. No hard feelings, et cetera. It'd be nice if you could be friends.
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No. 803228 ID: bfb318
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Chief leaves the office, but he still works closely with Sevener in the background to help her get things running smoothly. He makes sure that she will have an approachable system to accept ideas from the populace. Radmin approaches Sevener too, wanting to assist in the building efforts. A party is made to celebrate peace, but Chief keeps to himself with a small gathering.

GK has told Murdermouse to quit her bombing runs around town, and Murder will accept that order. GK himself is also approaching Sevener to lend his hand to assisting the rebuilding effort. As a show of good will, he extends his hand back to those who might have turned their back on him in some way, saying that if they want to put aside politics and help his own efforts to rebuild, he will accept them back into his organization, no questions asked. Scantower accepts that offer.

Murdermouse says she may take a break for awhile, but may want a rematch with GK at some point. She will wait on asking for a favor from Chief, as right now, Chief doesn't have much of anything that Murder could want.

Mamba and Iso 1700 have talked about what they'd like to do, and have reached an agreement. Mamba seems legitimately ashamed of some of her actions, but her actions over the next weeks will speak far more volumes about how much she means it. For the time, she and Chief make what amends are necessary to their friendship, and Chief believes they'll get along fine.

Shy, who unwittingly made herself popular, seems to trust Mamba as well. A brief talk with Shy reveals that she agreed to play along with Mamba's gambit due to the simple fact that she didn't want to be shy. Chief wouldn't have recommended practicing by standing up in front of a large audience in bold espionage, but that has already passed.

Mafia and present Alison didn't accept the public party invitation, and Mafia's tablet registration no longer shows up on a contacts list or the registry. As far as the tablets are concerned, she never existed.

Maybe Chief will write a book about the game itself. For now, he makes sure that everyone is coming out with as few hard feelings as possible, and that things are back on the right track.
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No. 803229 ID: bfb318
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Chief locates Mafia and present Alison, and meets them in the outskirts of town in a small residence.

"Hello, Alisons."
>"Hello. I don't suppose you brought a shopkeeper with you, did you?" asks Mafia.
"No, but they aren't hard to find."
>"Oh, well. What a challenge, that was."
"The game itself, or you having to act as you did?"
>"The latter, of course. I was terrible!"
"And that's why you did well. I'm sorry. You know you could have rejected my request, right?"
>"I considered it, but there were three reasons I accepted. One was to help put away Mafia Alison. I think that Mamba could have revealed herself as 1700 and worked past any notions that I may have caused, but this worked alright. She's known as Mamba, now.
>"The second reason... hm, how do I explain this... well, it wasn't just Mamba who had to overcome preconceived notions about Alisons. Most people in town just know me through stories, and I've been treated as almost some kind of embodiment of a few characteristics. Positive ones, so that's great, and I certainly didn't mind it during the stages when I showed that the stages didn't need to shape people's identities. But now, we don't need embodiments like that. I should just be treated like a person that can get distressed and angry like anyone else, even if I don't show it. More than me, though, people projected this onto other Alisons. We might share a lot of similarities, but it's just not fair to them to be relentlessly compared to me. I wanted to show the population that Alisons are capable of a variety of traits, both good and bad. Not just them, though. Maybe moreso, I wanted to show the Alisons that there's no need to typecast themselves into some kind of 'ideal' Alison. They can be, well...
>"Authentic." Mafia continues. "They can be authentic to themselves, and people will care for them."
"And the third?"
>"Because you asked, of course. That was still a good reason."
"Hm. And how about your body double, here?" Chief says, gesturing to the form of present-Alison.
>"It's me." present Alison says. "The Glitcher. Did you know that wrestling is actually really hard?"
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No. 803230 ID: f08985

Well, no, you didn't do it. That was a sticking point. But it's still impressive that Glitcher pulled it off.
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No. 803235 ID: 3abd97

>Mamba seems legitimately ashamed of some of her actions
Chief should probably reassure her or something. Nothing wrong with having an ambitious or "evil" streak, and she played well. The masks coming off enough for her to see Chief was really in it for the game might reassure her too- it's not like she actually 'lost' to the evil criminal empire.

(I mean, if anything did her in in the end, it was caring too much, which made her take things seriously).

>>803229
>Alison helped take herself off the pedestal everyone had her on
Yup. That was part of the motivation for this.

>>"It's me." present Alison says. "The Glitcher. Did you know that wrestling is actually really hard?"
Yes, that's part of the reason I avoided it.

I'm surprised you managed to contain yourself through all of that.
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No. 803236 ID: 91ee5f

>>803229
>"It's me." present Alison says. "The Glitcher. Did you know that wrestling is actually really hard?"
"Wait, if Glitcher is here, then why do you need a Shopkeep to change back? Can't he do it?"
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No. 803237 ID: 91ee5f

>>803236
Also, since Cheif wasn't present for what Mamba did:
"What exactly happened during the negotiations and how did you end up falling through the roof?"
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No. 803238 ID: b412df

That would explain the hacked tablets / two 1700s. Did you two have fun?
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No. 803241 ID: bfb318
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803241

"I figured it was, though I never tried."
"So you might actually be good at it?" Glitcher says, turning back to himself.
"Maybe my calling isn't management and politics, but wrestling."
"We can still arrange for it."
"No. Can't you change Alison back by the way, instead of shopkeep?"
"Yeah but everyone forgets that Shopkeep and Rulekeeps powers are like, wave a magic wand and it happens. My powers have to build it up brick by brick. It takes a lot of work. I just did a lot of work turning me back into me. I don't feel like working."
"Hm. Well, as far as pretending to be Alison goes, you did a good job. Although I guessed correctly that it was someone else as Alison, I did not expect you to be the impostor. You held it together."
"Haha thanks. Anyway Rulekeeper's gonna make some changes."
"To prevent this from every happening again?"
"There can still be fighting and stuff. Rulekeep did notice that after all the work we put into turning the giant city into use, it took like a week for everyone to destroy a lot of it. And that maybe there should be some measures in place to make sure that it can't be done so dang easily."
"I hope she's not upset."
"Oh no not even a little bit, she wanted to stay out of it and see how things developed to learn from it. I mean I thought the whole thing made sense, cause for all the rewarding feelings that building stuff gets, it's still an awful lot of fun to just wreck shit."
"It's good to hear you had fun. I hope you at least had some fun, Alison."
>"I think I see the appeal, but I wouldn't do it again just for fun."
"What happened during the negotiations, anyways?"
>"Succubus and I were teleported into a house. It was covered in bars, and we couldn't teleport out. There was a bolt though behind a wall in the house though that could start disassembling the whole thing, and I don't think Mamba thought we would immediately start taking the whole house apart right away and find it. Then we jumped down, and it turns out my body is a little bit more aerodynamic than people would think, so I was able to glide down through the roof."
"Good job."
>"Thanks!"
"So uh." Glitcher says. "Are you done here? In town, I mean. Like you can come back and all whenever, but are you ready to get back to work? Cause there's work to do. Like, a lot."
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No. 803243 ID: f08985

"You have no idea how happy I would be to have something meaningful to do again, Glitcher."
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No. 803244 ID: b412df

Yes. That was a fun distraction which you probably needed, but now it's time to get back to work.
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No. 803245 ID: fc33ea

Keep in contact with Mamba, she may be able to help with stuff.
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No. 803246 ID: 91ee5f

>>803241
>I don't feel like working.
>"So uh." Glitcher says. "Are you done here? In town, I mean. Like you can come back and all whenever, but are you ready to get back to work? Cause there's work to do. Like, a lot."
"Well, someone has to do it, seeing as you don't feel like doing it."
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No. 803247 ID: 3d765f

Remember to get your research into the different types of leadership styles and incorporate it into your own since that is likely the biggest boon this misadventure had.
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No. 803249 ID: edee29

>>803241
>magic wand
Glitcher... sure, Rulekeeper powers are magic wands, but you're the magic. They're just making specific requests to you that you've been conditioned to chain off into the underlying stuff that actually does it. Have you really not figured out how to make pre-coded stuff like that as easy for you as talking? And please don't tell me that talking's complicated, too.

>are you ready to get back to work?
Yes. This was even more fun than I thought it would be, but I'm ready to get back to the big picture stuff.
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No. 803250 ID: 3ce125

>>803241
Yep. Vacation's over.
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No. 803251 ID: 3abd97

Out of curiosity, were you plotting something with Mamba? I was pretty sure you had covert communications, but I never cracked the code. Had you revealed who you were to her?

>Rulekeep updating things
Not unsurprising. Will make for a new challenge the next time Chief gets bored and tries to test the limits.

>are you ready to get back to work? Cause there's work to do. Like, a lot.
Yes, I have some ideas from the criminal empire building that might help, actually.
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No. 803257 ID: 1e7aa8

Before you officially end your vacation, perhaps you should get Mamba and Alison on-board with making a blooming talk show. That'd be waay easier to discuss events and feelings and what not then engaging in some rather crafty and complicated espionage to make the point stick.
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No. 803258 ID: 3ce125

>>803249
>you're the magic
Please don't talk to Glitcher like he's literally the Ring Shell. He just happens to be merged with it.
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No. 803259 ID: bfb318
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>Were Mamba and Mafia plotting together?
Chief confirmed that there was some plotting, but those plans didn't pan out to much.

"Real work?"
"Not gonna lie. It's real work. Real boring work. Tedious. It'll take ages. A billion manhours. Maybe even a trillion. Who knows. I don't care, I'll do a godzillion hours all by myself, if that's what it takes."
"I thought you said you didn't want to work."
"Don't sass me Chief!"
"Don't tell me just talking is difficult for you. Do you really not have pre-coded actions in place? Shopkeep and Rulekeep may have wands, but you're the magic."
"Yeah the wand is like the throne and the magic are all the peasants that follow orders! Fine okay it's not that hard I'll just... have Shopkeep change her from far off I guess. Whatever not the point! Alison, Chief, we at the RS decided to settle on one of Likol's ideas that he couldn't do at the time, but we'll be betting on now. We're going to partition the hard drive."
"You have no idea how much I want to do some real work, Glitcher, and I've got some ideas to restructure the research team that might allow more creativity. I'm listening."
"Making a partition wouldn't actually be hard normally, but we need to be super careful. We've had to work with a lot of unknowns, you know that, but here's a couple of things we know. First up, the tools they had at the OPA bases to scan us were kind of rudimentary. We can bet that the salikai, the ASE, OPA, everyone, is going to pull in some hard favors to get better tools to scan our RS, which exist out there in the wide universe. A set of CAI blocks are just too valuable for them to scrap, at least not before they try their absolute hardest to salvage us. This means that we need to perfectly replicate a partition to make it look exactly like how a whole partition should look. That means making it look 100% whole.
"The science team, after so long, has figured out how to have a single particle act like 2 particles. It's ridiculous. I don't understand it. It means they can take 100% of the RS and turn it into 110% of itself. That extra 10% will be like data made out of the data, like if every 3rd letter on every page of a book spelled out a cohesive short story on its own. That data between data will be the partition that you guys live in. With the other 100%, we'll make the original RS look like the real thing. The point is is that to get all this working, we need to set up our universe piece by piece. It'll be like putting all the atoms individually in the correct slot in both space and time. That's why it's going to take awhile. That's why it's going to take like a week or two in real time. Which sucks, and we might not have that long, but it's our best bet because the other bets suck, and because of the second thing we absolutely know.
"That being that in the whole universe out there, Likol, that buddy of mine, is probably the onle one who doesn't want to see me dead. I'm just too dangerous. I'm incredibly valuable too, but the organizations out there would rather play it safe than try to ally themselves with an unstable digital god that can destroy them if things go wrong. Every organization that thinks I'm alive is going to hunt us down to the edges of reality. I don't want it to be like that, and it's not good enough to just see me go missing. They need to see me die, in full view of all their advanced scanners. That's gonna be tricky, because while we understand a lot of the RS, there's a lot we don't know. And me? RS-String fusions like me are a whole other ballpark entirely. I control the RS, people can modify strings, and we can make more glitchers, but we can't just seem to make more me to a level of perfection. There's a chance, however slight, that those advanced scanners they're going to try to get are going to be able to detect the discrepancy. Then they might say that the discrepancy could just be change over time, but they already have a lot of data on me from when Likol crammed my guts back together. If it's not a perfect match, they might just crush us right then and there. So, uh... still kinda working out what to do about that."
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No. 803261 ID: 094652

>>803259
I bet you they won't think so hard about confirming your death if they've got five other Glitchers to hunt down on the extranet.

Let's go further. Partition a few web sites that the CEOs frequent, mostly porno, then troll them, turn their favorite porn programs into you @#$%ing the characters and taunt them for doing what they've always craved but physically couldn't, and then pretend to escape into the extranet.
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No. 803262 ID: 3ce125

>>803259
If we can partition the hard drive perfectly, could he partition himself? Exist on both partitions, let himself get killed on the "main" partition. Break a few things as he "dies", too, to prevent them from starting up a new set of cycles. I mean, we've come this far to ensure the tragedy stopped, it'd be real shitty to just let it happen all over again.
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No. 803263 ID: 1e7aa8

"When you fake your death, perhaps the best thing to do is double down on that and also make yourself disappear. I dunno how exactly you'd go about that but if you technically didn't exist, there'd be nothing for them to find."
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No. 803264 ID: b412df

That's a bridge we can figure out how to cross when we get to it. If the ring shell is partitioned, could it theoretically be moved from one set of CAI blocks to another? (OOC: I'm recalling the RS emulator that Raush had and that Likol took when he made his escape.)
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No. 803265 ID: 211d83

I have some thoughts on that problem Glitcher.

The way I see it is you have to die in a very convincing way. Not just something silly like you getting caught by the scanners and destroyed in plain sight.

But something massive. Like them finding you red handed trying to build a giant construct out of RS data that looks designed to hide yourself from scanners. Something over the top that there criminal minds can understand. And when they go to destroy you and your fake backup plan its destruction needs to be so massive that a huge portion of the RS gets damaged in a over the top way.

It needs to look like a warzone on the RS for years in real time. Obvious that the RS is repairing itself slowly when you look at it with scanners. But showing that getting rid of you almost overwhelmed the blocks self repair capabilities and they had to rebuild almost from scratch.

Sure they have some data on what you look like but it could take a huge team years to make any sense of it. If we flood them with garbage data about your capabilities that looks similar to the old stuff they will get a completely wrong impression of how you work. And seeing that you will appear dead at that point they will not have a way to compare it to the truth.

Long story short: Make the RS look jacked up when they reconnect there scanners and once you "die" have it slowly fix itself back to the way they expect it to look over the course of a year or two.

Also are we going to hide away competely? Or be behind the scenes waiting for the day the Salikai fall so we can try to escape in the confusion? Even if it might take years of seeing horrible things happen and ignoring them until the perfect chance appears?
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No. 803266 ID: b8b2bc

Uh... well... you were "brought back from the dead" once before. Perhaps we could set it up to do the same thing again, but a lot better, now that it's been studied? That's still a really damn sucky option, though, so try come up with something else.

Hmm. Maybe we could turn you into a sort of cyber-lich? Put your heart/soul in some sort of bottle you can hide away so if you get killed you can regenerate. Are there any other storage devices built into the machine you live on, some little parameter RAM thing, some dull little circuit with its own little spare memory bit, that some part of you could be stored in? Or can you hide part of yourself inside someone else?

Don't forget to be prepared for good luck as well as all the terribly likely bad luck, too. Once you're all hidden away you'll need a way to watch and be prepared to come out again. Who knows the salikai were kinda dumb in a lot of ways, maybe they'll screw up and the cops will bust in and shut them down and rescue you.

Also what if you're all partitioned away and they start running the cycles on the other bit? Did we ever figure out archcycles and how to get past them?

While I'm asking, by the way, maybe this was answered at some point but did you ever find out what the hollow space inside the strings is?
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No. 803271 ID: e22b1d

One thing to consider would be to character assassinate yourself.

Which is completely different than actually dying mind you.

What you want to do is destroy your reputation. Right now Vanski thinks you are a lovey dovey bleeding heart that wants to save Likol's hive and do anything to fight him.

You need to play to his expectations. If when they start scanning the RS to get rid of you they find that the power has gone to your head and you have enslaved the rest of the simulation and are committing Vanski levels of evil plots for your own amusement (and to save yourself from the eventual purge). Well Vanski will be reassured.

Why you ask? Because people tend to expect that other people have the same sort of mindset deep down. Good people think everyone is at heard decent. And Evil people think that good people are just being nice for personal gain and hiding there true nature.

Doing this might help dispel any thoughts Vanski might have about you trying to hide and avoid him trying to take the simulation hostage to force your hand.
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No. 803272 ID: 3abd97

>>803259
Uh, big potential problem.

If we partition the drive and use one part as a screen to make it look like everything is okay, does that mean there will be an actual contest with people trapped going through cycles while the rest of us hide out somewhere else? Because that's not really tolerable.
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No. 803274 ID: 3ce125

...it's possible that whoever "kills" Glitcher will ensure that no more contests take place, so that they don't accidentally create another RS-Glitcher.
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"Is it possible to move an RS from one set of blocks to another?"
"That uh... ehhh... maybe some sense of 'move' but not like you're thinking."
"And is it possible to escape into other computers in the world?"
"Not without some weird reconstruction of ourselves. Prooobably not worth worrying about."
"Alright. Then about faking your own death. When you do, you'll have to make yourself disappear somehow, too. And obviously you have to make it look convincing, you can't just accidentally run into their scanners and let yourself get offed. You should make a side project that looks like you're building a giant construct of RS data that is supposed to hide yourself from scanners, or some other means of self preservation. If you're then caught red handed, they may believe that this is your main project, and the resulting fight should be like a war on the RS. Perhaps even a fight that looks like it nearly killed the RS's repair capabilities."
"Yeahhhh, I'll make a show out of it.
"So are we going to hide away completely, or be waiting behind the scenes waiting for the Salikai to fall so we can try to escape? We'll have to watch them commit terrible acts while we wait for a chance."
"Yeah, we can and will watch, just so we can try and intervene if they're going to shut us down anyway. Watching them is better than chancing us dying and have them do it anyway! I don't know what we can do about a new archcycle coming up in the primary partition. Mayyybe I can empty out the contestant's self awareness from behind their back. I'll look into that."
"Could you partition yourself, too, across the two RS partitions?"
"Well, I dunno, the whole string thing might make that more of a mess than it needs to be. Like, I already was able to do a real partition of myself before, but it was definitely incomplete. Maybe the tools they'll get can't tell the difference. But there's a chance they can. Really, the best way to look like I died is by actually dying!"
>"Glitcher." says Alison. "We don't want you to sacri - "
"I know I know hold on! Hold on. Let me explain. Chief had this idea too. I become... a cyber lich. I think it's possible. If I can hide a little copy of myself somewhere, it can turn into me again if I kick the bucket. It still can't be directly connected to me, just because of that tiny chance their scanners can find out, but I think we can set up a little procedure that'll watch everywhere including both partitions, for me, and if I die, to regenerate. It might not be me, but I already don't feel like the original glitcher, so I won't even be any worse off. I mean, it's risky and new science and all, but that way I can die but come back just like before. And if they can detect me coming back then it means that they can detect the sub-partition at which point we're screwed anyway. But I'd rather die again than chance blowing the whole thing wide open, or killing my reputation in hopes of appealing to Vanski, or whatever."
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No. 803278 ID: 3ce125

>>803276
Well. While we've got his ear... what were those three logs in the RS referring to? Were those logs of Glitchers that the RS caught via the "Guardian"?

Tell Glitcher if he can resurrect himself like that there's a good chance that he'll be able to do it properly instead of the flawed method Rikol used. He will feel more like... well, a resurrected Glitcher instead of a new instance of himself like the first time he died. He might be BETTER OFF after this!
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No. 803279 ID: 211d83

Make sure you clear that idea with Rulekeeper. But as long as you made the clone right it would have your memories from day one and not have your disconnect issues.

That being said. You are the Glitcher. Just because the resurrection process hurt you really bad does not mean you are not you.

We should also get a team for watching the outside world. It's going to be a nasty mess out there but someone has to keep a eye on it. And they will need others to help them weather the storm of having to watch horrible things happen.
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No. 803280 ID: 3abd97

>>803276
This is getting more into moral issues that sound like Alison concerns (maybe along with Chief and Sevener and Rulekeep and other leader types who are interested) than stuff we should be having Chief decided.

I mean, he can probably point out that if you kill yourself because you're uncertain you're really you, I doubt the next Glitcher instance will be better off. In fact, they'll probably have it worse. (Two steps removed- a copy of a copy).
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No. 803282 ID: fc33ea

I feel like that raises some uncomfortable questions about agency and free will.
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No. 803291 ID: 1e7aa8

Only problem with the data lich idea is if the method of reconstituting the glitcher is scanned and figured out.
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No. 803292 ID: 211d83

>>803291

Yeah might not want a program to make a RS super ai lying around where someone could find it if things go wrong. So be careful if we try.
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No. 803294 ID: 3ce125

It occurs to me that Chief learned a lot of stuff about social engineering too. We might be able to use that against the outside world.

>>803291
>>803292
My understanding is the phylactery is stored in the hidden partition and so is the mechanism that triggers it.
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No. 803295 ID: b8b2bc

I want to raise the possibility of an escape option. IF somehow some time it becomes possible to jump ship onto another computer... how possible is that? Like, if we're considering the potential rescue future, we might also consider a potential stealthy rescue future. Like instead of cops busting in maybe some day Likol shows up saying "buddy I did my best all I got was this tiny computer some of you could jump shop onto", is that possible? Or if someone were to foolishly hook you up to some other medium that could theoretically contain you, how about that? The system came pre-loaded with a lot of information, was some of it information on how other computer systems work? Are you cross-compatible at all? Could someone jump ship onto some sap's phone or something? Escape to the internet? I mean, one of the reasons CAI's were banned is because of the risk of them taking over everything, and you're basically CAI AIs. Could you take over the internet, hypothetically? Or just go hide there?
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No. 803296 ID: 4546ab

Things to look at before we get back to work.

1. Check with Corruptor. Want to see how he is doing and what was going through his head early in the contest.

2. Find out where the notes Corruptor and Alison got telling them to fight each other came from.

3. Poke at Savior. Yeah he is a jerk but should check up on him. Don't be the guy who tortures his enemies.

4. Get the Cai over here and introduce ourselves. Unless we are keeping them in the dark forever as part of our plot. Are we backing them up as well? Do they get to live in the nice city we built or are they stuck in stasis until this is all over?

5. There are no records of old Cai battles in the sim but the Cai should have some. Sort of want to see how those went down.

6. Anything else we missed over 5 years of puzzles.
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No. 803297 ID: b8b2bc

You also need a plan for if you get like, not just a heavy-duty scan but an actual visitor, a foreign AI sent to look at you.
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No. 803301 ID: a27883

>>803295
Thread 15 is what happens when someone plugs the cai blocks and the current cycle into a network.

If someone connects the cai blocks to an unsecured network that has an internet cable plugged in somewhere *the entire cai population is free*

it'd be the biggest data breach and/or jailbreak depending on how history is written.
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No. 803302 ID: 211d83

>>803301

We can't escape like that easily. The only compact computers powerful enough to run the contestants in there current form are the quantum computers built off of old empire tech.

We could access and affect most every computer on the planets open interent if we got attached to a mainline internet trunk. But leaving our current hardware on a permanent basis would require a lot of work.
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>Find out where the notes Corruptor and Alison got telling them to fight each other came from.
It's been awhile, but apparently there was some nonsense with a long-deceased glitcher that messed with a series of notes. There was a little story to it, but most glitchers do involve at least a small tale.

>Introduce everyone to the CAI
Glitcher intends on doing this later. They may, at that point, talk about their experiences with the occasional group of people from the contest coming through to attack or speak to them.

>What were those three logs in the RS referring to? Were those logs of Glitchers that the RS caught via the "Guardian"?
Chief believes those were logs from Arbiter that were in the corrupted fields. They didn't mean much of consequence, other than providing a good leaping point to translating the contestant's speech to RS speech.

>Jumping ship onto other computers/internet
There may be a possibility with highly advanced computers, so the possibility isn't completely out, but contestants can't simply jump ship to the average computers. They can directly interact and manipulate them, like a person can do all kinds of things with a rock, but they can't dwell inside of that rock. Still, the power of manipulation, and the ability to invent AIs and processes that do inhabit the computer, is so high that it's enough for foreign governments to limit their capacity to do so.

"We'll also have a team of people watching the outside world?"
"Yeah." Glitcher says.
"A phylactery should be done carefully, lest they just find that."
"Yeah yeah I'd let it fail before it gave away the whole operation. It'll be 100% contained in the sub partition."
"And will this copy of a copy of the Glitcher have the same issues as you?"
"He better not! A copy of the original comes up with questions about being the original or not, but a copy of a copy? Who cares at that point!"
"... He?"
"Yeah! If I dematerialize in one spot then come up in another, well, did I die? Don't answer that I've had enough of thinking about stuff like that. The point is that I think the answer is yes, and that's why I'm going to say that my full name is Glitcher of cycle 3119.2. But I think that I'm okay with this state of being, as long as there's only ever one glitcher like me or my previous version at a time. As long as there's just the one, I'll answer to Glitcher. I'll talk to Rulekeep like I just got wounded in the resurrection, and she'll wrap herself around me like I never even died. Then the phylactery will be 3119.3, and it'll be the same for him, and if he's a lucky son of a bitch, there won't be a Glitcher the fourth for a long, long time. Huh. That still sounds alarmingly simple when I say it out loud. It sure took me a long time to come up with it. I just covered it with Rulekeeper a little while ago."
>"You've ran your plans over with Rulekeeper, Glitcher?" asks Alison.
"Mhm."
"How is Savior, by the way?"
"I froze him. There's quadrillions of people who have lived for a few seconds who deserve more time, so he doesn't get good treatment."
"And Corruptor?"
>"He's doing well!" says Alison. "He's taking people on field trips through space and time with Rulekeeper's help. He's taking well to being a historical tour guide, and telling stories."
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No. 803308 ID: 3ce125

>>803307
Well Glitcher is a bit tragic still but I'm glad he's come to terms with himself.

Time's a-wasting. Let's get started.
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No. 803309 ID: b412df

Right. Let's get to work.
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No. 803311 ID: b8b2bc

Well, time to get to work, then. Maybe bring Mamba in as a consultant some time, to help you add that personal/creative touch? You could do time trickery so she doesn't actually have to spend more than an effective few seconds away from her school, I'd bet. Or have her bilocate.

Don't forget to still take breaks sometimes. You have so much to do, a vacation every now and then will be hardly a blip on the chart, and it'll probably make you all more productive overall.
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No. 803318 ID: 91ee5f

>>803307
>"He's doing well!" says Alison. "He's taking people on field trips through space and time with Rulekeeper's help. He's taking well to being a historical tour guide, and telling stories."
"So, he pretty much just grows really big and let's people ride around on him like a giant school bus, right?"
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No. 803326 ID: db0da2

So is Glitcher going to start calling himself the Licher then?
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"So he's become a giant bus, hm? That's good. That's all from me, then. Bring me to the RS, and I'll get back to my usual tasks."
"Off you go, then. Alison, what do you want to do?"
>"I'd like to be with you for a little longer, if that's okay."
"I never denied a bit of that in any lifetime. And I better not in my next!
"We can call the next one the Licher." Chief says.
"Damn, that's good. Oh, I'm going to borrow Sevener for a bit, too, and some others in town, becauuuuuse I'm going to suspend everything that isn't setting up our projects."
"Just as soon as everyone found peace again?"
"Yeah? It's when they're happiest, and you know, the whole threat of looming death is kind of putting a damper on it all. We can resume it at short periods to make little breaks."
>"We have a lot of talent in town, like Mamba." says Alison. "We can bring in a lot of people to help."
"Yeah! I'll get on that. Might even give the purified devotees some intelligence so they can work without end to stamina, since a lot of what we're doing is just rote work. As for the rest of us, let's all get to work and maybe not all of us will have abrupt yet horrible deaths!"
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