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>>174898
Mmm. Although Lia may know nothing of this. The visions she received didn't seem to be a full background scan, just generalized and vague hints or notations. What I'm saying is that there's little point in blaming her for how her 'gift' works. She likely has no idea of the good things we can be capable of encouraging or of the role we played in defeating Charlotte earlier. Case in point, she thought we were Miss K's, not Player's.
>>174918
He's a dungeon crawler. He wanted to have adventures and get rich. Review what he's claimed himself, and how he's responded to being called a hero, and you'll see that he doesn't exactly have aspirations of being a saint. He's certainly done something heroic, and with luck will survive to do more, but this was as much about him and his desire to partake in a real dungeon crawl as it was about fighting evil.
All credit to him, right now he is thinking about the villagers as well - I'm confident not all crawlers would do that - but he is still in this for himself too. Dungeon crawling is, like, his career choice, and a man's got to earn the silvers to eat.
>Do you honestly believe giving him even more grief is going to do any good?
I don't believe Player is as emotionally fragile as you claim he is (and yes, I did note him get shocked to silence earlier, which I think had more to do with surprise than anything). He's brave, tough, capable of heroics and seems a decent person at heart...Mostly. Like everyone else he has his flaws and makes mistakes, and if anything he doesn't think too much about the consquences of his actions unless prodded on it.
You make excuses for his mistakes when Player himself concedes they were wrong and not fully thought through. That is not to say they did not prove crucial and useful for him (and the village) somehow, I will not deny that. They were still stupid, wrong and at the time done with little just cause. There were better methods available to him, but he did not pursue those.
I also see little point in trying to twist the truth to Miss K like you were doing. Perhaps you think you have cause to do so, since Player has definitely had a rough day and Miss K's natural reaction to his misdeeds would be another thing to add to that, but I don't believe it is as bad as you make it out to be, nor do I think he's lost all respect in her eyes and vice verse.
However, some ill luck does not excuse the fact that he had taken someone's halberd and later clobbered them over the head, potentially getting them in trouble with their boss. Miss K had justification to act as she did, and she also reacted far less severely than she could have (i.e. not in the worst way possible), proving willing to listen to and help him, despite some misgivings.
You seem to want Miss K to hear his rationale (which she already did, and was less than impressed) after which you presume fences will be mended, perhaps with a little prodding from us. When Miss K does not agree with you, you explode.
You're essentially being too sensitive for Player's side of the story, and too little for Miss Qualisck's...And you seem to have little appreciation for the fact that Miss K has already agreed to help him out.
The fact that you've flown off the handle yourself and occasionally spout the odd lie is not earning you any good karma, and may be part of the cause why Belarmina isn't listening to you. The other part may be because she believes the situation to be resolved, as far as she's concerned. Deals have been made, punishment has been meted, business as usual has resumed.
By the way, I think her "Oh, I'm sure that would end well" was a tongue-in-cheek comment in response to the idea of the orb mediating between her and Player. Can you imagine? Like a third of us would be suggesting they make out.
>>174957
Yeah, I'm wrong on that point. You're not validating her reaction, you're reinforcing it (or would be, could she hear us). Her reaction was only based on her vision, and you do have some cause to think that being judged like that warrants a response. That still does not make your own reaction any less extreme in turn, and this could easily become part of a wonderfully wicked circle should we ever try speaking with Lia in the future.
Whatever happened to forgive and forget? You don't have to be a pushover to acknowledge that some battles are pointless and unnecessary.
This'll be my last reply for now. I don't want to derail the thread further on what seems to be differences in opinion. If anyone seriously wants to debate me, they can always take it up on IRC or in the quest discussion thread.
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