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1641 No. 1641 ID: 2563d4
A thread for posting the results of trying things outside your normal comfort zone, or the comparisons to and discussion thereof.
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No. 1642 ID: 2563d4
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So I decided to faff about with pressure-size sensitivity, after seeing Lucid put it to good use in the ass day stream. Results are over here: >>/questdis/336936 ; this post has the same thing in my "usual" discrete brush size style for comparison. It's not entirely fair since I did this version first, so the fanart version gains the speed advantage of having the (inaccurate) posing all done. Also the big lines here are done at 100% zoom for speed, the detail lines at 200% because of the way Flash does brush size/zoom interactions; whereas the fanart one is all 200% so the whole pressure range was usable, so will be a little more precise overall.

I'm quite liking the results for a first shot, and it was a lot faster, although having everything positioned will be a big part of that. I don't really have a great deal of idea how I should be varying line thickness along the path, beyond the kind of obvious level-of-detail cases I do with the discrete approach.

(And, yes, I know the anatomy is all skew-whiff. Hoft, in particular, is largely phoned in.)
No. 1643 ID: 9b6c31
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I am planning to do a webcomic, and use this kind of style.
No. 1644 ID: c71597
Comissar Snusmumrik is not amused?
No. 1649 ID: a09a03
It looks about a zillion percent better with pressure sensitivity turned on.

I don't understand why you've had it turned off by choice, except to do a solid outline of something. I just assumed that flash didn't work with pressure sensitivity.
No. 1650 ID: c99f30
On the note of pressure sensitivity, I've recently come to the conclusion that Wacom+Gimp+Mac=No Pressure Sensitivity!

Hopefully I can find some mac native program that will let me use pressure sensitivity (apparently the Gimp port is gimped in that respect.)
No. 1653 ID: 2563d4
Hurrah, feedback. Yeah, I'm liking the difference even if I'm not sure I'd getting it right; I seem to be able to do fine, unzoomed detailing with it that I couldn't just by setting a smaller brush size, which I had previously put down to just being too ham-handed or quantization error. There's an all-100% ten-minute sketch (fifty-minute faffing about) one in ITQ: >>/questdis/336985

I'm used to pressure sensitivity being useless opacity, and previous adventures in Flash's size control when the tablet was new mostly made everything look scruffier. But I've got a bit more control over where things taper now.

Quite likely my quest will switch over to this when I next get a clean breaking point.
No. 1654 ID: ca79b4
Using pressure sensitivity represents a dramatic improvement as far as I'm concerned. Even if you have no idea what the hell you're doing, it just looks so much more fluid.

Switch as soon as it stops being alceris-style. Or even sooner.
No. 1844 ID: f123de
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I'm not comfortable with drawing people and doing intricate inking. Normally I use color and shading to hide my sloppy work and loose anatomy.

Note that I stole Lucid's style of representing shiny metal here.

I'm also pretty sure the upper torso should be rotated about 10-15 deg clockwise so the right arm works properly, but I'm done fucking about with it. I already spent far too long making the sub-5' knight approximately the right size compared to her warhorse.
No. 1846 ID: 2563d4
...I cannot help but see that horse as gurning. HNNGH IMMA HOERS
No. 1890 ID: f123de
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Perhaps this counts? Thread should be used for something, after all.

Still can't bring myself to use the binary brush.
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No. 1906 ID: 2563d4
...what am I looking at here?
No. 1943 ID: 79c4ad
A future glass etching.
No. 1945 ID: 366ca7
Using the bookmark picture?
No. 1946 ID: 2563d4
...reflective dragon thing? Sorry, the photo is pretty badly out of focus.
No. 1949 ID: 79c4ad
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No. 1979 ID: 3bde71
yes but could use some improvment
No. 1980 ID: 2563d4
Well I can see it's a sort of dragon-y thing with its tongue out now. Will be interesting to see the final product!
No. 1984 ID: 75d652
Try taking a picture of it against a darker surface, so the etching will actually stand out, rather than seeing what all is behind it.
No. 2055 ID: b7798b
No, no. That's not how Flarey goes at all!
No. 2060 ID: 79c4ad
Fuck you. That's not flare
No. 2085 ID: 2563d4
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No. 2569 ID: 2563d4
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Dicking about with approaches to heavy shading. This is >>/questdis/340844 with the shade layer hidden. For thick, heavy lighting like >>/questdis/333321 , I worked by paiting and carving the white regions, which is somewhat tricky to freehand and requires you to keep a lot of shape in your head, but gives very sharp results. The dwarf is instead a scratchy shadow layer, which I think gave a much dirtier effect for a scruffy fortress, and meant I could draw upon a much more concrete framework.
No. 2731 ID: 49d6d7
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I'm no great artist or an expert by any means, but when I did the linework on Ridder's mom, I noticed that the INSIDE of the lines is more important than the OUTSIDE, because the inside defines the shape of the body precisely.

Here you can perhaps see that I used eraser brush a lot to get the insides of the ink lines almost as smooth as possible, while discarding most of the work on the outside, leaving it somewhat shoddy.

A couple of the best lineart drawers I know do a lot of 'draw bold lines quickly and then erase them meticulously to perfection', and I can see why.
No. 3215 ID: 2563d4
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Check and double-check positioning at sketch stage: 10 minutes.
Check and double-check positioning at ink stage: 20 minutes.

Realising the head is too far forward on the neck five minutes after colouring and posting the damn thing: fffffffff-
No. 4536 ID: 2563d4
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Freehand and angular vehicle practice. No guides, no pre-sketching, no reference art, final destination. I'm pretty happy with the perspective on the 'bot, generic as the design itself may be; dunno if I'll still like it in the morning. :V

Don't expect to see any of this showing up in anything any time soon.
No. 8448 ID: 2563d4
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><Cockwife> Draw a hardened, Godless, Astranian war hero and his trusty censor-bar rifle.
><Cockwife> Cigar optional.
><LionsPhil> Firing it from the hip, I take it. *unicodeetc.*
><Cockwife> Of course.

No. 8773 ID: 2563d4
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>erryone depressed
Here's a fun game to play!
1) Open http://tgchan.org/kusaba/graveyard/catalog.html
2) Open http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch?v=X9LQrf7Now8
3) Draw. Ideally not as badly as this. Maybe you could even do something worth posting in fanart.
No. 9824 ID: 2563d4
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Quick refless doodles, trying to avoid rusting up completely on drawing non-yiff-yaffs. Also attempting handling straight-on straight-side perspectives without looking completely flat.

Yes, this is basically my drawthread of fail by this point. Sage goes in every field.
No. 9945 ID: 2563d4
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Driblis you shouldn't have stolen the keys D:

><LionsPhil> Driblis I think you might be just a little depressed :V
><LionsPhil> Special offer tonight only taking one-hour art request from Dribbles
><LionsPhil> Noserubban with the character of his choice
><LionsPhil> (This is the worst idea)
><Cockhole> How exclusive.
><Cockhole> I mean.
><Cockhole> How exclusive~
><%Driblis> but i don't know any characters
><%Driblis> how about that squirrel girl
><%Driblis> that was your person right
><LionsPhil> Rats. Should have specified *non-dead quest character :V
><LionsPhil> Guess I better find out if I can still draw her weirdly-shaped head!

Time-limited one-hour piece that ended up taking more like one-hour-twenty. Welp.
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No. 15439 ID: 4a20fa
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Herf derf badly-drawn videogame comics
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