>>6226
Because then the site wouldn't be quest.lv it would be a million different domains.

>>6218

Those aren't banners, those are splash pages, you doofus.

I really don't see the reason for a name change either. I feel this was done because someone just wanted to without actually quering the people whether they like it or not.

If we're gonna go for OH SO NEW NAME, The old name should still be around and redirect it here.

And NO MATTER how many changes we undergo, to outside we're still tgchan, so it's fruitless and stupid.

GLORIOUS NAMECHANGE TOOK PLACE

>>6230
all the cool kids thought it was a good idea

Old name still works. New name makes us independent. What's the problem?

>>6234
There was nothing wrong with the old name, and we've already got a lot of stuff that uses it.

>>6234

Independent? From who?

>>6236
From deary old mom /tg/ and our abusive alcoholic dad /b/.
They never accepted us for what we are ;_;

>>6237

You're delusional. Who the fuck connected us with /b/.

I like how this thread was up for a few days and no one complained at all until after the change happened.

You all suck at being proactive.

>>6238
Yeah man, the idea that anyone from /b/ could have any significance on tgchan, excuse me "quest.lv", is totally insane of course.
>>6239
Well excuse me, it was a thread by some faggot and not a admin-sticky or something I might give a fuck about.

>>6239
Mostly because I did not know that a change was in the works until it happened.

Au contraire, you[not u specifically, be cool] suck at making announcements.

It should have been on the front page where everyone can see it, regardless of what board they frequent.

If its not obvious, I dislike this change.

I didn't realize people thought it was important enough to actually do.

Trying to distance ourselves from /tg/ is not only unnecessary but also inaccurate. I know we're mainly about quests, but that trend started at /tg/ as a form of roleplaying.

And think about all the stuff we've got in them. We've got goblins, kobolds, D&D-style fantasy worlds, Exalted, most of our quest authors, and basically a bunch more stuff which we brought from /tg/.

We've even got our own /tg/ board. It's not all that active, but we've still got some posting going on there.

So I'm fine with not trying to distance ourselves.

Why are you purposely changing to anonymous (or even using proxies! Maybe you are using proxies because you're agreeing with yourself I don't know!) in a thread about who wants or does not want the change? You guys are silly.
>>6243
We've got a /meep/ board which is effectively /b/, being an any subject board, and proto-quests were on /b/. Clearly we should be bchan
We've got a /draw/ so why aren't we drawchan.
The /tg/ board barely any posts, and it really wouldn't be missed much if it just got folded into /meep/.
We are a quest community foremost and the name TGChan implies otherwise. To put TG in our name implies that we are mainly about Traditional Games, or Transgenders. The chan implies to many people that we are similar to 4chan, which comes with more negative connotations than positive.
Anyone that is deeply involved in the site and cares a lot about it is in the IRC, where this discussion was very rampant. I guess you guys just don't really care about the site. :smugdog:

I'm casting my vote for incestanddicks.org.

Adept!!MvMGOwL2H3 2010/07/18(Sun)20:01 No. 6255 ID: f4963f
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I'm just going on the record (again) as stating that I prefer tgchan.org, for reasons that have already been mentioned in this thread.

>>6243
This guy has the right idea.

>>6246

>To put TG in our name implies that we are mainly about Traditional Games
Quests are interactive storytelling, which happens to be one hell of a traditional game.

>The chan implies to many people that we are similar to 4chan
But... we are. We're an offshoot of 4chan, we're set up in the same format, and where do you think most of us came from?

>Anyone that is deeply involved in the site and cares a lot about it is in the IRC, where this discussion was very rampant. I guess you guys just don't really care about the site. :smugdog:
I'd just like to take a moment to say fuck the IRC. I don't see why anyone should need a second source to care about a site, especially if the primary source is, apparently, not the site itself.

So, yeah. I didn't bother coming up with arguments for or against anyone else in this thread because that last line just made me irrationally angry.

>>6259
Quests is a narrower category than Traditional Games, and Quests is what we are. I even addressed this in my post that you just quoted! Why not just name it GChan? I mean Traditional Games are one hell of a Game after all.

I didn't say we were not like 4chan in ways, but that the chan name comes with negative connotations that I believe quest.lv does not contain. We're a slower moving site, we have a single main purpose, we have IDs, and the communities are different.

I was mostly joking with the last line, hence the :smugdog:, but most people were neutral or in favor of changing the name, and people who aren't even on IRC trying to claim that most people don't want this change is pretty silly.

I think we should be some variant of Quest.org, preferably QuestChan.org in my opinion.

Either way, please let's have a .org name instead of Latvia or whatever...

And I also agree that there's not really a strong need to separate ourselves from /tg/, we still feature a lot of stuff /tg/ was known for a year ago, I just think it makes more sense for us to be QuestChan as the point of the board is Quests, not bitching about how /tg/ is shit now or something.

>>6243
>I didn't realize people thought it was important enough to actually do.
Nor did I. I assumed this was a joke, because it is fucking stupid, to the extent that it never even occurred to me that it would be seriously considered.

Obviously, as has been mentioned
>And NO MATTER how many changes we undergo, to outside we're still tgchan, so it's fruitless and stupid.

>>6246
>We are a quest community foremost and the name TGChan implies otherwise. To put TG in our name implies that we are mainly about Traditional Games, or Transgenders.
The only people who know what /tg/ is also know what we are.

>The chan implies to many people that we are similar to 4chan, which comes with more negative connotations than positive.
No, it implies that we are an imageboard, just like any of the other hundreds of imageboards with names ending in -chan. This implication is entirely accurate, because we are an imageboard.

>Anyone that is deeply involved in the site and cares a lot about it is in the IRC, where this discussion was very rampant. I guess you guys just don't really care about the site. :smugdog:
This is bullshit. Not everyone has time to be on irc all the time. Most people have jobs, or school, or both. Not everybody is on during whatever time period such discussion was "rampant". I know it couldn't have been too frequent of two long-lived, because I, who does not have a job or classes at the moment, and does spend days on end on irc, totally didn't encounter any such discussion.

>>6264
>>The only people who know what /tg/ is also know what we are.
This is not true.

>>6262
>Either way, please let's have a .org name instead of Latvia or whatever...
I read ".lv" as ".love" and therefor am okay with that.

>>6265
Perhaps it would be more accurate to have said "anyone who knows what /tg/ is and know we exist also knows what tgchan is". Barring the momentary instances in between when someone sees the word "tgchan" on /tg/ and when he asks what that is, can you think of any examples where that statement would be false?

>>6264
Man it was going in multiple channels fairly regularly over a period of like two or three days and had been discussed intermittently before that, and the consensus seemed to be "not tgchan, but something with 'quest' in it."

But anyway I am in favor of a name that a) has "quest" in it (since that's the point of the board) and b) doesn't have "tg" in it (since not all of us are "from" /tg/, shockingly), as I've consistently stated since the idea of the site was proposed more than a year ago.

>>6268
>Man it was going in multiple channels fairly regularly over a period of like two or three days and had been discussed intermittently before that, and the consensus seemed to be "not tgchan, but something with 'quest' in it."
I have not known of any such discussion since before tgchan existed.

Furthermore, two or three days is a very short amount of time to change something of such significance, which has been constant for over a year. The name is, like it or not, a core part of the site's identity. It is what the site is called. Any attempts to change it will be very unlikely to catch on, and will be more likely to have the effect of making tgchan look unstable to people, which, while not super important to current users, dissuades any casual enquirer.

>a) has "quest" in it (since that's the point of the board)
Ideally, it should remain ideologically feasible to branch out to things which are not questing.

>b) doesn't have "tg" in it (since not all of us are "from" /tg/, shockingly),
Not everyone on /tg/ is from /tg/ either. This concern is inane. Everyone comes from somewhere, nobody is originally from any given place on the internet.

>>6270
Just because you didn't know about it didn't mean it didn't happen buddy! It had been discussed off and on for months with the same consensus being reached each time of "Yeah it would be nice to change it to something with quest in it I don't know"

Might as well elaborate on what bugs me about the change.

So let me get this straight. We're a
>/tg/-derived group, that
>adopts tons of setting tropes and races from /tg/
>whose iconic founders were very well-known /tg/ personalities, and we
>continue the practice of a medium popularized in /tg/, and furthermore have a
>/tg/ sub-board, and
>a high population of traditional gamers in our artists and readers.

And instead of 'tgchan' we give the site a name like 'quest.lv', which sounds more like a backwater Latvian traveling agency or a site you might get a virus from than an imageboard.

>>6268
>like two or three days

Wait, really? I dunno about you, but I don't equate 'a little over a weekend' with 'long and careful deliberation'.

Sorta ambivalent at the name (my reaction was more or less, 'Wait, why aren't scripts firi-- oh, the server changed.'), but one would sort of expect more representation in the actual site than one side thread in /meep/ lacking so much as a sticky.

I mean, I thought about it for like ten minutes, can we rename you to Miscalc?

So far, I've seen two reasons for the name change:

>This site is about quests much more than it's about traditional games.
Despite that, /tg/ stuff is still a huge part of our culture, so a name that reflects that is good.

>People might connect us with 4chan, and that's bad.
I think that's a pretty big "maybe". In my expectations, anyone who knows enough to make the connection knows enough not to hate us for it, and anyone else will at least give us a fair glance after learning about us.

If this site had been named something like "questchan" from the beginning, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but changing it now is an overreaction to problems that, at least in my opinion, aren't even real. I've grown attached to the old name and would prefer we keep it.

>>6271
But it does mean that it was less prevalent than it should have been.

>People might connect us with 4chan, and that's bad.
That's hilarious, I can't imagine a person who's ok with the stuff here having a big problem with 4chan.

I prefer the old name, for simplicity's sake.

It's not a maybe, there are perfectly reasonable people that were very close to never coming here because of the name.

Why are we quests.lv instead of questchan or something? Having -chan is like, tradition.

Bob 2010/07/19(Mon)09:23 No. 6297 ID: f1df64
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>perfectly reasonable people
>never coming here because of the name
>because of the name
>name

>>6290
>It's not a maybe, there are perfectly reasonable people that were very close to never coming here because of the name.
>reasonable people
>never coming here because of the name.
lolno. There may be people who are not reasonable never coming here because the name, I suppose, but that is a claim which I would contest, and require proof for.

>>6272
>/tg/-derived group, that
In the sense that rubyquest was on /tg/ and attracted a great deal of people from there along with a variety of other places (I know I'd personally not even known there was a roleplaying board on 4chan before it. And there's at least a dozen people from tvtropes I can think of.)

>adopts tons of setting tropes and races from /tg/
Via /tg/. We've got the standard fantasy races, which definitely predated RPGs at all, Sergals, from some japanese girl, uh... Oh, Exalted, I guess that's legit /tg/. In that it was from a traditional game and not from /tg/ itself. It seems like the only thing I can think that's 100% /tg/ are Doobies. Contrast that with... Laydridin, Tozol, Caelum, Brackets, Resonance, Vapor, BiteQuest, Larro's setting, Nahala, Princess, Defective, Eivr, The Icon, Deep, Boon, Alien, Halting State, Story Time, Last Flight. As much as people talk about "original content", most of /tg/ is going to be about published rpgs (mostly 40K), or "Guys I want to run a game in [setting] what system would be best".

>whose iconic founders were very well-known /tg/ personalities, and we
Flynx and Dylan were well known? How 'bout that.

>continue the practice of a medium popularized in /tg/, and furthermore have a
To be an ass, I'll point out Problem Sleuth and the fact that Ruby was originally planned for /r9k/. Still, no decisive point on this one.

>/tg/ sub-board, and
The /tg/ sub-board exists more because of the name than the opposite.

>a high population of traditional gamers in our artists and readers.
Completely valid. That still doesn't make it what the site is about.

>>6291
>>6264
>we are imageboard, that is all the chan means
This would be a lot more accurate if we actually acted like an imageboard. Imageboards move quickly and have things fall off of them. And they're anonymous. We're a forum that looks different.

>>6270
>>6239
>>6273
>>6276
>there wasn't enough discussion on the change!
A majority of the point of the redirect was specifically to inspire said discussion. Looking right now, I'd say it worked.

So, personally, I think that tgchan isn't really a name that accurately represents us, or sounds as nice as Quest. I think that tgchan.org should still be a valid URL, on the level of thatquestsite or ponychan, but I'd prefer quest.lv be our official name. But if we do change back, then, eh, qu'est la vie.

>A majority of the point of the redirect was specifically to inspire said discussion. Looking right now, I'd say it worked.
Next time make an sticky or something reasonable instead of trolling for discussion
>stuff about races
cutebolds, genuine /tg/ invention

>>6301
>This would be a lot more accurate if we actually acted like an imageboard. Imageboards move quickly and have things fall off of them. And they're anonymous. We're a forum that looks different.
Now, that's an interesting thing to discuss. But it's only tangentially related, and deserves a significant amount of thought, so I'd say it's a topic for another thread. Go ahead and make one if you want to discuss it.

I almost didn't come to tgchan because it was called tgchan. I took a look at the name and thought "oh, is this one of those splinter board things where they just sit around all day and complain about how 4chan sucks and talk about how great they are?"

As for a better name, that's more tricky. Questchan is better, even though saying 'questchan quest' is awkward.

>>6310
Obviously regardless of the name we can just refer to /quest/ quests as "quests" and quests on some other board as "(wherever it was hosted) quests," since I'm not aware of another board devoted to quests. :V

'questlove quests' is the best thing to call them obviously.

>>6312
That's redundant. Just call them Love Quests.

Shame that someone already took http://que.st/. That would have been awesome.

>>6313
But that's a genre of quests. There has to be at least one that isn't about love in some way.


I think?

>>6316
Even Golemquest is about Mordre's love for his fallen nation, and his love for the nation he's forging.

I don't really like quest.lv...

How about something more like... QuestCentral or Questory?

I remember when someone suggested Storyboard in IRC, I really liked it :/

Bob 2010/07/20(Tue)06:36 No. 6321 ID: f4963f
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>>6297
Seriously? Nah, I'm still here even if you call it Laserdicks.com

Although I'll take to calling it LaserD in that case.

If what Test says is true, that's interesting. Perhaps we should drop the -chan after all. The problem is that with a name like 'quest.lv', I have no idea what to call the community anymore. I keep wanting to say 'tgchan'.

Questan.org?

-chan won't work? Then we need some sort of witty name that just so happens to have Quest slotted in where it doesn't belong.

Questerly? Questuary? Questicles?

theoldestquest.org

After the oldest game.

Yay for my lack of imagination.

>>6321
Just call it /quest/.

Guys

The names not stupid (well, it is, but that's not the point)

The changing of the name is stupid. This is tgchan, and has always been tgchan. It always will be tgchan, even if it says something different in the address bar, because that's what people are used to it being. If we change the name, and people hear the new name and are like "what's that?" the answer won't be to describe the site, it'll be "that's tgchan". And then if somebody requires additional clarification, it'll be explained what tgchan is. The "official" change in name serves only to instill confusion among those who don't know what tgchan is.

tl;dr: This has always been tgchan, and thus always will be, regardless of domain changes.

I just want to say that I, personally, consider us a chan as long as we use any futaba-like software.

I mean, 4chan was named 4chan because the software was similar to 2ch and 2chan.

What Cruxador says is pretty much the truth. Maybe it was a mistake to call it tgchan, I think the decision was between tgchan and questchan , but changing it now will do more harm than good.
Pretty silly when the site's called quest.yiff or whatever and the IRC channels #tgchan and #rubyquest.
Also other references and pictures that use the original name.

And it is an image-board, being slow and way less frequent pruning of posts is pretty common for niche boards. The only somewhat special thing here are the archives.

If we really have to change it, here's a suggestion:

infinitepsyche.org

That's a reference to one of our most pervasive and iconic cultural traits, the Orb of Infinite Psyche. Less generic than "quest".

But for the record, I'm still against any change from tgchan.org, including this suggestion.

>>6350
The Orb of Infinite Psyche in unrelated quests is really dumb and should not be encouraged to start up again. Infinitepsyche.org is long, unwieldy, nondescript, and gay as fuck.

>>6352
And here I find myself agreeing with Lawyer Dog.
That's really not something that should happen to someone who tries to maintain at least the appearance of some personal dignity.

Also, what do you guys think about yiffy-cyoas.cx?

>>6352
>Gay as fuck
I thought you were trying to discourage it for a second there. <3

>>6320
>Storyboard
I forget if I suggested that or just seconded it, but I continue to suggest/support it.

>>6352
It's far from the worst that's been suggested, honestly.

>>6359
>>6320
Seems far less representative of what we are than any of the other serious suggestions.

I liked Questan.org

>>6359
Seconding this.

Storyboard sounds awesome. It doesn't even have 'quest' in it so we can say "Storyboard(SB?) quest" and not sound awkward. Besides, questan sounds like a verb! I dislike naming objects and places after verbs.

Bob 2010/07/20(Tue)23:26 No. 6367 ID: 16f4a6
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My 2 cents.

storyboard.what
Don't make me hurt you.

Supporting storyboard

questchan.org

Storyboard sounds like some pretentious animation community.

>>6373
I actually have to agree with Numbers on something. Besides, Storyboard's taken on all the legit TLDs.

Call it yif.fi people will know what to expect and half the site is from Finland anyways.

>>6373
Yep. That's what I was thinking when I posted>>6360
Because sure, we all have stories (even Gnoll, at the moment) and it's on a board, but Storyboard is a word that surpasses its composite to mean something else, and thus the ohsoclever pun becomes merely a confusion.

Questgponysitechanboardstory.tits

It bears mentioning that this site was meant to be connected to /tg/ when it was created. Remember the old slogan, "Like /tg/, but with more cutebolds"? If there's a lack of /tg/ content, I'd rather focus more on it than abandon it.

>>6391
I thought it was more like "/tg/, but with mods"

>>6391
Uh, not all of us were under that impression. I didn't think the /tg/ board would ever take off because a large portion of the userbase hanging around #rubyquest was there for, y'know, Ruby Quest, as opposed to /tg/ content, which is why I advocated for "not tgchan," and the subsequent history of the site has pretty much proven my hunch correct.

Ok fine, how about questcentral?

So, what, is this horrid redirect here to stay?

I'm still going to call it tgchan, damnit. Pointless political renames are for infighting open source projects.

>>6408
Along with project forks and entirely new development teams.

That's a good idea. As of this moment I hereby announce the founding of tgrubyquestboardchan.lv which is exactly the same thing except in slightly darker colors. It's obviously the superior version.

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>>6410
>Darker Colours
FUCK YOU this is the worst decision ever!!! Oh my GOD don't you know that light colours bring happiness youre like a bunch of fucking gothtards in lolita dresses you stupid pretentious circlejerkers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I HAET YOU!!!!12

tgchan.org

tgchan.org

tgchan.org

Since I guess now we're just listing the name we want

bob.org

...

Shit, already taken.

Bob.co.uk is still available, though

quest.an sounds good

>>7140
Local presence in the Netherlands is required.

There is really no reason to do anything but tgchan.org. Also quest.lv sounds like some dubious spammer website and people refuse to click links of it.

>>7141
Clearly, the only option is to move to the bloody Netherlands.

Someone must be hiding a dutchman somewhere.

thatquestsite is growing on me. We can abbreviate it to TQS.

I do think we should be a .org and a shorter name is ALWAYS better, which is why I don't like thatquestsite.

>>7148
thatquestsite and tgchan are the same number of syllables!

>>7156
Not if you pronounce it the cool way.

>>7156
I don't care how long it is to say. Why would that matter? It's twice as many letters.

It's worth noting that people on /quest/ are still making references to the original name, even after the change.

If reverting to TGChan isn't an option, I'd prefer we keep the new name we've got now, since we've got it already.

>>7178
>If reverting to TGChan isn't an option
Of course it's an option. It's also looking to be the more popular option, based on posts in this thread. Something else could be more popular based on the vocalizing of people on IRC (I haven't had time to be on much lately) but if so then it's looking like that would be a case of a vocal minority.

And people call it tgchan because that's its actual name. That's just how names work, they don't necessarily correlate to "official" names.

I have to admit that pronouncing it 'quest la vie' grew on me fast enough that I can see that picking up after a while.

I'd love to see being reverted to TGChan again. Since as it was mentioned. It grew to us and other people are still referring to it as TGChan.

>>7196
I was going to say I wanted tgchan back but I didn't even think of pronouncing it like that. So now I'm fine with either.

So, it looks like it's been set up so that we can use either tgchan.org or quest.lv (or ponychan.info) without being redirected. I agree that's probably the best way to do it.