>>26304
You asserted that a discussion was pointless in a thread specifically for having the discussion.

>>26305

yup. ^_^ so?

(So stop)

>>26304
>>26306
Dude, you shitpost constantly. This is coming from me; this is practically a professional opinion, somewhat to my shame. Sure, keep doing it if you like, free speech and all that, but don't act confused when you know you're shitposting. I'm only saying this because you actually do seem dumb enough to do shit you know is stupid and be honestly surprised when it backfires.

Anyway:
>>26298
Fair enough, but I'd like to note that the same thing is happening right now with regards to the porn hole. Both sides have people dissatisfied with the solution.

And because I think my initial post about copy+pasting was misunderstood based on Moon Berry's response: I was suggesting that instead of linking to the wiki page, people who are afraid of offending others with the NSFW art can simply C+P everything except the art.

I'd also like to apologize for being a huge asshat in general.

>>26309
I don't really like the porn hole though- I support the incoming booru. I know there are a couple of people that didn't like having the porn moved at all, but uh, yeah I've already talked about that as much as I am going to.

>>26261
>Get the booru up within a week and everyone is happy.
Unsurprisingly this hasn't happened.

Can we revert this mess yet?

>>26371
Eh, I'm still in wait and see mode. It's not like much moves fast around here.

I'm probably not going to strait up revert the changes if the booru never happens, anyways. I think I'd want to implement some kind of censorship / segregation for the people who were upset by the porn in the first place. And I haven't got around to deciding on how to do that / templating anything for that, yet.

Pantalaimon 2014/06/07(Sat)11:03 No. 26374 ID: 2fc3e9
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>>26373
How about no? The problem with porn on the wiki was that people didn't want to link porn when they wanted to share quests. As I suggested earlier, they can just copy+paste the description of the quest and the links to the quest threads if they want to avoid porn.

>>26374
Dylan says the booru will be up soon.
Be patient.
Also, who the fuck is gonna have the time to copy-paste fourteen billion links for shit like dorfquest or anything by weaver?
the whole point of the wiki is to have one page with links to everything specifically so its easy to share, yo.
Pornhole was a bad idea, but the booru's really our best option as it stands.
now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna duck back out of this and get back to making favicons for everything ever

>>26375
>the point of the wiki is to have one page with links to everything so it's easy to share

Everything except porn? And the booru makes it harder to share pictures. How much harder is it just to tell people not to scroll down, since there's fanart they might not want to see? The best option here is for anyone who seriously has problems with linking to the wiki to deal with it instead of forcing everyone else to deal with their own issues.

>>26374
>Just have them copy paste everything instead of link!
Yeah, that's just an offensively bad non-solution to a problem people had.

Look, as far as I'm concerned, this isn't an argument anymore. It's settled. Enough people had a problem with the way things were done before that we're going to try doing things differently now. And Dylan is already putting the thing together, anyways.

Wiki articles will link to content on the booru when it exists. And if for some reason the booru doesn't happen, the wiki will resort to text links, or censored thumbnails, or segmented galleries or something instead of what it was doing before.

Either way, the content will be organized and accessible, but the smut won't be directly displayed on main article pages. (With possible exceptions for quests that are blatant nsfw smut themselves, anyways). Everyone wins, except infinite canvas scrolling advocates.

Dylan is being super slow, but it's almost ready. Everybody just chill.

Holy shit dylan it's been TWO WEEKS since the booru was "almost ready". What happened?

Hey, how do i connect to the Irc thingy? need to ask a mod to resurrect a quest.

Do i actualy need to talk to a mod, or can i just post the new stuff in the thread to get it removed from the graveyard? i know your not supposed to bump dead threads but since im

>>26429
step one: get an irc program, or go to mibbit
step two: connect to the server "rizon.net" (usually is on a list of servers, rizon's pretty popular)
step the third: connect to "#tgchan"
step there is no next step: you are now in the irc

>>26429
You do have to talk to a mod.

>>26427
JSPoker's been waiting for a single HTTP header on /TEMP/ since last year. Dylan is not fast.

So can we do one of >>26373 yet?

(And can you not put random IRC questions in the wiki thread just because it's the nearest to hand?)

So, are there particular moderators in charge of approving people for wiki accounts, or what? I applied a couple of days ago now and still haven't gotten approved.

>>26442
Should be done. There's no notification for us unless we happen to be looking at the wiki.

>>26443
I see. Well, thanks :)

How do I get lines to wrap around an image? What I mean is, I don't want it to put one line to the right of the {{fanart}} image and then skip to the next line as soon as Wordwrap hits. Would I have to manually upload the images for that to work?
Is there a way to convince {{fanart}} to keep a proper width, or would I have to set up a new template for that? Probably the latter, to avoid messing up other pages, but then, is there already a controlled width (60-100 pixels, excluding margins to fit text in) template for it? Specifically, if you take a look at the Rust/Compressed page, notice that Jericho RUSTED takes up more space because of the lack of auto-wrapping.

>>26446
http://tgchan.org/w/index.php?title=Rust/Compressed&oldid=20748

It's pretty much a table, so I put it in a table. If you can wrangle the first column to be centered, that should mitigate that fanart/questart boxes are dynamically sized.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables

>How do I get lines to wrap around an image?
Aside from tables, you can also apply text wrapping to an image with formatting like this

<div style="float: left; margin-right: 0.5em;">{{fanart}}</div>

Obviously, you can set it left or right. And you can remove the margin term entirely, although I find it looks weird if you let the text press right up next to the image.

>Is there a way to convince {{fanart}} to keep a proper width
Well, you could use images of the same width, and not stretch things out by adding captions the way you are. Put the names in the paragraph, or use headings, instead of the caption.

If you really wanted to force a width of a specific number of pixels, the template currently doesn't support that. It's limited to the size of whatever thumbnail you point it at- it can't resize. If you want to force a resize of an image to specific dimensions, you unfortunately have to upload the file to the wiki and use [[Image]].

I suppose adding a max width parameter or something to the template might be doable? Ie, to stop the white space (grey space, really) around the image from getting bigger due to captions.

>It's pretty much a table
Great, time to look into how to set up an entire template centered around this. Hopefully my rusty Wiki-Fu hasn't lost is edge, I used to work with templates like these all the time.
Although I must admit, {{fanart}}'s ability to nab images from an external database is new to me, I never knew wikis could do that.

By the way, since apparently I discovered something that people don't know: While I don't know of a way to hide text under a clickable spoiler box, you can hide it by making the background the same color as the text, such as using
<span style="color:#000" style="background:#000">SPOILER TEXT</span>
to get black text over a black background.

Yeah, um... My wiki-fu sucks, and the scrolls explaining the art are written for wikipedia, which allows a {} system, instead of the HTML based <> system. For anybody who wants to take a stab at it, what I'm looking for is a table that uses two columns. The first column will be 100px wide, no matter what. The second column should be as wide as the browser allows for. The number of rows, I would prefer to be unlimited, though I honestly would not mind having to insert an extra copy of the code every line for each separate character.

Inside the first cell should be placed the image, and below the caption for the character's name. The second cell will be however long is necessary, and used to explain who the character is. Chances are, only Kaktus's quests will use this, but even so, it's a good idea to have in advance. In the meantime, I'll look into some possible alternates.

I finally found it!
>>26451
Oh hi there, Toko!
To my knowledge, tables don't work that way, as a column must be the same size through-out the entire table, otherwise you'd get some weird effects.
What you could do instead is make one table with a width of 100px then create a table after it with a width of 100%.


But uh... That's not what I'm here for, oops.

Does anyone here have experience with Wiki IF statements? I've tried copying the one from template:icon, but I've had no luck with it, I either broke it or am not setting it to be triggered properly.

What I've tried:

{{#if:{{{icon2|}}} <!--IF "icon2" has a variable-->
{{{icon2|1}}} <!-- Then return this -->
}} <!--Close statement -->

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23if

Thanks bob! Turns out I was just a little off.
Simple example in case this helps anyone else out:

{{#if:<!-- If this (string) is not empty -->|
<!-- Then return this -->|
<!-- Else, return this (optional) -->|
}} <!--Close the IF statement -->

>a little shy three months after "within a week"
So here's a straightforward solution (you get to be a guinea pig, Sports, sorry!):

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Lupa

Thoughts, objections, etc. before making this a common pattern?

If we get a wiki upgrade, it should be possible to transform this into 'click to expand' by just changing one template. However, I wouldn't expect that any sooner than a booru.

No objections here. Looks good to me, at least from a wiki-formatting perspective.

Though, yeah, I won't be implementing it all over the place until I hear how some of the people who originally raised objections feel about it.

I had thought of re-purposing the old nsfw template to warn when a page or quest itself had nsfw content, since we're not using it in galleries anymore.

Hi all,

New here. I look forward to contributing and understanding more about this community.
I am loosing my hair and would love to understand more about it.

Thanks

Hey is there some basis for whether or not multi-thread completed quests get put in the Major Completed Quests list?

>>27108
There's really no set official criteria for what qualifies as a Major completed Quest. I mean, obviously, it shouldn't just list every completed quest. And there should be some expectation of quality. But it's kind of a judgement call.

It's not even a hard rule that it has to be a series quest. Just that so far everything on there happens to be so. (Maybe because it's harder to feel 'major' in a one-shot?).

Was there something in particular you feel deserves a listing?

Hi guys! Just an idea.

How about categories or templates for quests by year? E.g. "Quests of 2009", "Quests of 2010", etc. It would make archive binging easier, and help see the context for when a quest was created.

Say, speaking of NSFW content, would it be possible to get matching SFW / NSFW quest tags, so we can tell at a glance whether or not a quest contains pornographic content, and to be able to filter lists accordingly?

>>27300
Well, it's not the worst idea, but

>manually add a [[Category:Quests of 20XX]] tag to ~1900 pages
>be depressed the whole time about how old things are now
I sure as hell don't have the willpower for that. Unless someone comes up with a script to do it, or figures out how to bundle it into the infobox template that's already on every quest page (the template would have to follow the first thread link and check the date string in the OP, somehow), it's unlikely to happen.

>>27301
That's pretty feasible. There's relatively few quests that are flat out nsfw (if we narrowly define "nsfw" as "actually depicting pornographic content" and not "stuff you wouldn't want your boss seeing you look at"), so it wouldn't be a large effort to tag them. In fact, there's already the {{nsfw|quest}} banner, and it wouldn't be hard at all to embed a category tag in the template.

>>27303
Hey! Things are not "old", they're classic. But yeah, I get what you mean, fair enough.

Btw, does the wiki collect info about non-canon threads? E.g. "Inside the Quest", crossovers like "Beach Day", etc.

>>27321
The short answer is yes the wiki tracks stuff like that, but incompletely.

ITQ is pretty much squared away- there's a page a page with links to each thread, and relevant quest pages have links to itq posts. There's crosslinked pages for the [Bodypart] Day threads. But a lot of the smaller or more one off stuff doesn't really have anything.

The ones that are basically art threads could just be lumped in with galleries / the booru (if and when we get that implementation figured out).

Something that has a lot of crossover like Beach Day is probably best treated like Fight Quest, where relevant quest pages just note they participated and link it. (Which is on the to-do list, now that it looks like it's over).

We could probably be some kind of better organization of this kind of thing. Though in the meantime there is this, uh, nightmare.

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Quest-Discussions

It hasn't been updated in years, though, and maintaining it would kind of be insane.

>>27322
I see, thanks!

>>27301
Right, so per request, this exists.

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Category:NSFW_Quests

>>27330
Sweet deal. Dunno if Velu exactly qualifies, though.
Might be a good idea to put Dakdo's definition up on the page, to prevent the category being watered down with quests containing at best mild nudity.

>>27332
>visible naughty bits and/or sexytimes
That's the definition I've been using. If sex is shown in an update, or if body parts that would be censored on a television broadcast are shown in panel. (With some allowance for frequency. Say, I'm not gonna bother labeling a big long series quest nsfw if a nipple shows up once). And there are obviously a lot of quests where characters run around naked 24-7 without showing anything naughty.

I suppose I could be a little more exact in laying that out.

As for Velu, yeah, I know they're literally 1-pixel nips, but the author saw fit to spoiler a bunch of images, so I just followed suit.

>>27321
I've just updated the wiki to have a page for the previous Halloween threads and for Beach Day since it seemed like it'll become a yearly thing. Added them both to the tgchan holidays template as well.

Bob 2015/12/17(Thu)17:23 No. 27625 ID: 86cfc3
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Hey so Dylan went and updated the wiki with a newer mediawiki version. There's a bunch of cool little improvements / features as a result of this (like sortable tables now work), but the big thing is this:

It's now easy to sign up for the wiki. All you need is an email and to solve a captcha. No longer do you have to wait (days or weeks) for a lazy wiki-mod (me) to get around to manually clicking the "yeah this guy doesn't look like a robot, approve" button!

Oh, and even if you have no interest in contributing or editing, the search bar on the left now suggests autocompletes of page names when you start typing, making it easier to find stuff.

Thanks, Dylan!

>>27625

Awesome!

Thanks Dylan~

Alright, I've tried to look at the wiki if I could find all the previously featured quests, or if some quests had a "featured" tag, or something like that.

Turns out I can't. I feel like I'm missing out on A LOT of great quests (deep, alien quest and the end being the first three I have found here that I hadn't yet read)!

Since the "major completed quests" has like ten quests, but there's a lot more quests that are worth reading, (maybe a major unfinished quest page like the romanticar series) could anyone help me out here? Thanks!

>>27699
This history shows every quest that's every been featured. Just start clicking through.

http://tgchan.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Featured_Article&offset=&limit=500&action=history

Personally, the reason I never added a tag or category to show off quests that have been previously featured is that featuring is somewhat arbitrary and unfair. There are plenty of good quests that have never been featured, and while I'm comfortable holding up something once a month or so and saying "hey this is good maybe more people should look at this" I'm less comfortable curating a permanent list of what's quality and what's not.

>>27700
Wonderful, thank you! I'm also checking out the completed quests and some of the unfinished ones.