Spatial Compression - A nostalgic callback to the days when Alkaline was small enough to fit inside a bottle. Good times. Be careful when and where it wears off.
Imaginary Friends - Alkaline hallucinates the inner desires of those nearby as specters of the earth pulse.
Exploding Knees: Alkaline's extremities are much more detachable and combustible.
The Bad Batch: Alkaline can only bud off orange goo slimes until this curse is broken. Exploding Knees also applies to mitosis.

>>1051149
Curses:
Fatigue
Nausea
Blindness
Vivid hallucinations of a cat
A mild hunger for the flesh of the living.
"Extra limb":Grow/manifest an extra limb, but it's controlled by your subconscious.
"Missing limb": one of your limbs turns invisible, including clothes. Really messes with coordination.
Heat vampirism- everything you touch grows cold, and there is a compulsion to steal heat this way. Body temperature is noticeably low if not fed.
Bad luck involving minor events
Unwillingness to look directly at people, or any objects you're interacting with
Time dilation- you move slowly compared to everyone else

>I should leave and find something more productive to do with my evening.
Hoho, one wonders who Alkaline learned impatience from! Shade-throwing aside though, you know things can take time to nurture and grow. Isn't this sort of recklessness an indication that Alkaline herself is impatient for greater growth? Or is she just... that reckless? Maybe what she really wants to be is to be your final boss and prove herself.

Monitor the curse formations, see what you can identify and then, yes, if you so wish you can spend your evening on other things and let Alkaline deal with the consequences of her choices for a while. As long as it's nothing too bad or obvious as to require immediate intervention!

>Curses
Kindergarten Curse: Cursed subject becomes more childish and can make others interact with them in childish ways, i.e. feel impulse to join a proposed game of tag, play charades, etc.

Curse of Obsessive Compulsion: Cursed subject has a single action they must do fairly frequently or become increasingly fidgety, even neurotic, from its clear lack. Suggested actions: Gardening, fighting, digging, bathing, polishing, hugging.

Curse of Command: Subject feels compelled to express themselves through orders. Perceived failure to heed orders can grow a desire to establish or reinforce dominance.

Curse of Curse Reinforcement: Curses are harder to remove, lasts longer and have a stronger effect.

Curse of Dim Fate: Cursed subject becomes more attuned to darkness and shadows, but daytime and brightly lit areas will feel bad. Powerful sources of light can stun or even hurt subject.

>>1051149
Curse of planar vision: Instead of seeing your own reality you can only perceive an alternate reality

Curse of verse: You can only speak in rhyming couplets

Curse of the kitten: An intangible kitten only perceptible to the cursed will constantly meow and run around being distracting

Curse of congealment: If stationary for too long her slime will begin to harden into organic crystal

Curse of slippery fingers: this curse causes those affected by it to randomly drop a random equipped item/gear without their knowledge.

Curse of sticky fingers: randomly take an equipped item/gear from anyone nearby without the target’s or the user’s knowledge.

And a couple more, why not.

Curse of Form: Subject takes on a singular definite form and loses morphic malleability.

Traitorous Trait: An ability of the user will change for the worse. Suggested: Inimical Inversion.

>>1051149
>Alkaline takes everything all at once.
>Alkaline is incredibly cursed. Suggest some curses!
A curse that makes her default body shape fat. Like, fatter than Deem is right now. No matter how much she morphs her body, it'll always default back to being fat.

This is a result of her taking in all that orange goo at once instead of taking in a little bit at a time.

Curse of the Sticky Stick: Alkaline becomes rail thin and can’t hold onto additional slime, limiting how much she can bud off and causing the excess to be shed rapidly.

>> It would help in a case where the curse is contagious or somehow attached to their surface, but otherwise no. I suppose she might be able to extend her ability if relevant curses were-

Don't... take this the wrong way, I know it's awkward as hell. Amorphous creature that can suck up curses. Golem body that's cursed with all sorts of thing but not "surface curses".

So in other words if she inserts some slime inside your golem body she should be able to suck up some of your curse, even turning it to something else that's to her benefit.

I know talking about putting Alkaline inside of you is a bit weird, I'm not denying it, but if she just stuck an arm down your throat for 20 minutes she might be able to suck some curse out of you, assuming you aren't enjoying the voluptuous figure and sour fruits.

Also you might want to file down your horns a bit. Maybe have one of Alkaline's slimes do it. Or Hin if you just want to waste some time with one of your companions.

>>1051156
>>1051163
>>1051172
>>1051162
I like all of these.

Curse of Eggman: The subject suffers constant pressure to assume as near as they can to the shape of an egg. Their surface becomes more rigid, and their insides less.

Kitty!: The subject becomes a cat.

Hug Dependency: The subject must be hugged frequently. Hug deficiency results in progressive loss of sanity as the subject enters a maniacal hugging rampage, hugging all around them and never letting go. Extreme deprivation has the subject turn into a rubber-band.

Dinoclaws: The subjects fingers, toes, and similar digits become hard, rigid, curved, and scaled/feathered.

Doorway's Revenge: Space warps around the subject such that portals are just slightly too low for them.

Tongue Lashing: The subject's sense of taste becomes massively more sensitive.

Golemitis: The subject turns to stone with no loss of ability.

Brain the Size of a Planet: The subject gains whatever knowledge is required to make their current circumstances seem tedious.

Litterbug: The subject will always find packaged snack-food near-at-hand. The food will provide no satisfaction and be completely useless in all ways, and cease to exist shortly after losing attention. The subject will experience a mild compulsion to snack. The packaging is permanent and of poor quality, with a mild forgetfulness compulsion.

Lasereyes: Weak lasers shoot from the subject's eyes with no reprieve.

Suggestive eyebrows: The subjects eyebrows are subject to frequent involuntary spasms, usually in response to being talked to.

>>1051149
Curse of Polka dots: Subject is covered in bright purple and yellow polka dots
Curse of Imitation: Subject is compelled to copy both the action and appearance to the best of their ability of a random being within their sight.
Curse of Yelling: Subject can't help but yell whenever they are trying to talk
Curse of Brutal Honesty: Subject constantly says what is on their mind.
Curse of Dependency: Subject needs to stay in physical contact with another living creature at all times or their health rapidly deteriorates

Curse of deslyxia!

Supporting these:
>>1051160
>Curse of Curse Reinforcement
>Curse of Dim Fate
>>1051162
>Curse of slippery fingers
and >>1051172

>>1051149
>I'm not going to put up with this. I should leave and find something more productive to do with my evening.
If you don't want to deal with Alkaline's foolishness, you could get started on Olan's Commission.

>curses
Both the Curse of Curse Reinforcement >>1051160 and this one >>1051172 are fitting punishments for her recklessly eating all that stuff at once.

>>1051202
>Doorway's Revenge
>Suggestive eyebrows
These would be funny to have happen to her.

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>Curse of Olfaction: Alkaline gains a big, long, drooping nose, akin to that of a proboscis monkey.
>Curse of Congealment: If stationary for too long her slime will begin to harden into organic crystal
>Exploding Knees: Alkaline's extremities are much more detachable and combustible.
>Dinoclaws: The subjects fingers, toes, and similar digits become hard, rigid, curved, and scaled/feathered.
>Curse of Brutal Honesty: Subject constantly says what is on their mind.
>Curse of Curse Reinforcement: Curses are harder to remove, lasts longer and have a stronger effect.
>Nausea
>Hug Dependency: The subject must be hugged frequently. Hug deficiency results in progressive loss of sanity as the subject enters a maniacal hugging rampage
>A curse that makes her default body shape fat. Like, fatter than Deem is right now. No matter how much she morphs her body, it'll always default back to being fat.
>Curse of Sticky Fingers: randomly take an equipped item/gear from anyone nearby without the target’s or the user’s knowledge.
Alkaline is incredibly cursed!

>Monitor the curse formations, see what you can identify and then, yes, if you so wish you can spend your evening on other things and let Alkaline deal with the consequences of her choices for a while. As long as it's nothing too bad or obvious as to require immediate intervention!
This is a mess, I can't tell what's going on. I had a hard enough time determining the curses affecting me last time we tried mixing raw mana with the orange goo, and this is much more dense.

There's nothing overtly harmful forming I can perceive as I quickly retreat to avoid becoming cursed myself by the frothing and volatilising orange goo.

"You should have listened to me." I say.

"I can handle it!" Alkaline says back, retching and then clamping one hand over her nose and mouth.

"I'll leave you to it." I say, turning on my heel to leave. "Call out if you need me."

>Hoho, one wonders who Alkaline learned impatience from! Shade-throwing aside though, you know things can take time to nurture and grow. Isn't this sort of recklessness an indication that Alkaline herself is impatient for greater growth? Or is she just... that reckless? Maybe what she really wants to be is to be your final boss and prove herself.
Ridiculous, absurd. I am extremely patient. It's an indication she doesn't listen!

>Don't... take this the wrong way, I know it's awkward as hell. Amorphous creature that can suck up curses. Golem body that's cursed with all sorts of thing but not "surface curses".
>So in other words if she inserts some slime inside your golem body she should be able to suck up some of your curse, even turning it to something else that's to her benefit.
>I know talking about putting Alkaline inside of you is a bit weird, I'm not denying it, but if she just stuck an arm down your throat for 20 minutes she might be able to suck some curse out of you, assuming you aren't enjoying the voluptuous figure and sour fruits.
No. I'm liable to get more cursed not less with the state she's in. And I'm not so desperate for a curse-breaking I need to try something like that. The effects of my intake of too much tasty orange goo have been persistent, but I'm not that cursed.

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>If you don't want to deal with Alkaline's foolishness, you could get started on Olan's Commission.
I was going to start work on it tomorrow but I suppose a quick discussion with Hin to settle some concepts would give her the night to mull it over. I detour to obtain a sample of mana potion from Doyle, hoping my consumption of the locus fluid will increase my sensitivity there too, and then find Hin.

>Also you might want to file down your horns a bit. Maybe have one of Alkaline's slimes do it. Or Hin if you just want to waste some time with one of your companions.
I begin by enlisting Hin's help in pulling out these horns so I can replace them with something a little more svelte.

"This isn't going to give you brain damage or anything is it?" my blacksmith asks.

"Hin, I don't have a brain." I reply.

Hin huffs. "I forget sometimes."

Giant strength is applied and my neck feels much lighter. One of the branches cracks and is not salvageable but we might be able to plant the other born and turn it into a reusable supply of monster bait. Some of the fruit got a little squashed so I eat them rather than let them possibly contribute to another imp or frog invasion.

"You sure you're fine?" Hin says, looking a little queasy. "Those roots were kind of..."

I give her a look. "Hin, I walked by myself back to the dungeon after a bear tore my arm off. My golem body can take a lot of punishment."

"OK, OK."

We get out the two small boxes packed with the materials Olan supplied for the crafting demonstration. I've kept them sealed since there was an outside chance Olan might have been picked something that will rapidly lose strength once opened as a trap for the unwary.

Baying Bezoar: The bezoar of a questing beast. A sovereign remedy for those suffering from an uneventful life. Difficult to work with as it manipulates luck and fate, often for the worse.

Stone of Poisoned Light: A dense ore that possesses a sickly radiance. Exposure to the light can induce sickliness or strange mutations and corrupt growth.

Tricky and potentially double edged, both of them. I'd want these to be the cores of the items Hin and I craft, or perhaps even combined into a single item if we're feeling particularly inspired. We can use some of the other materials we've gathered but the item should hinge on the properties of these two materials. Something to impress. Perhaps a weapon or tool? What might we do with them?

>>1051504
Oh? A Questing Beast's bezoar? We told you we saw one during your Ghost Curse, right? I wonder if this is related... it would indeed be fateful for it to be from the questing beast that visited us.

Strange Mutations + Fate Manipulation = an item that can control mutation. You could go for something that focuses on positive or negative mutations, but negative ones are obviously more in line with the Bezoar. I'd expect something like a staff with a means of directing the light away from the user, and also a means of blocking the light entirely. Like a directional lantern?

A cursed lamp- one that only shines in one direction mind you- that bathes whatever it shines on in sickness and misfortune. Or perhaps we can invert the bezoar so the light gives what it bathes in beneficial mutations? Set the lamp up in a lil garden and harvest weird shit.

Lantern of Two Wrongs Make A Right. Ever-shifting gelforged lens uses the bezoar's fate connection to shine corruptive light only on things which are already cursed or unclean, eventually twisting their growth in more positive directions.

>>1051506
Perhaps make a lantern with rotating lenses, depending on which lense is in place the light can be harmful or beneficial

>>1051504
>Baying Bezoar: The bezoar of a questing beast. A sovereign remedy for those suffering from an uneventful life. Difficult to work with as it manipulates luck and fate, often for the worse.
Make a weapon with this. Whenever someone gets hurt by the weapon, their luck and fate has a high chance of taking a turn for the worse, with a low chance of only taking damage and their luck and fate remain unchanged.

>Stone of Poisoned Light: A dense ore that possesses a sickly radiance. Exposure to the light can induce sickliness or strange mutations and corrupt growth.
Make a wand from this. It causes mutations in whatever it's pointed at.

Sorry these are really basic, I'm not very creative and these are the best I could think of.

Oof, it's going to be difficult to think of an item without a high chance of killing the wielder! Or the smith...

Use the Questing bezoar for the core of a Questing Blade! An axe or knife, or both, balanced for throwing, it ricochets wildly into objects that will cause a lot of chaos. Be sure to wear your helmet, and a cup.
The poisoned light stone could be encased in a (CLEARLY MARKED) watering can and used to foster a monster garden - the benefits of light-infused water are not to be underestimated, or ingested!

Alternatively, you could combine the two into an arrow-attracting shield. Something that will attract all the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, and be tough enough to withstand it. The protective coating needed to shield the wielder from the sickly light will only add to its durability.
What are the odds that you could subtly improve the function of the item you make by using some of the distilled mystery goo?

Are we allowed/supposed to use other ingredients? You could use that Darkling Gem as a way of changing how the ore directs its light, can't you?
The Divergent Egg relates to potential, which has synergy with fate doesn't it? Could do something with the bezoar with it.

Ok, so this isn't the kind of thing he wanted, but the materials are pretty specific to it.

You could combine these, and create a powerfully cursed item. Yes, cursed. This is something great heroes of old did, doing great feats under extreme duress to prove their worth to the gods.

This artifact would like be a weapon or piece of armor, usually a weapon. It would be in and of itself powerful, a man wielding it as a sword might find he's faster and better than a sword of similar weight or build. The sword however is a manipulator of fate. The user will find himself drawn to use it in struggles, and constantly find himself tested by it. It will bring mutation but truly more through a constant series of trials that bring the hero's endurance, intelligence, and even moral compass under constant assault. A weapon that'll force it's use to constantly evolve and improve, lest they die in grand fashion.

I don't think you can truly twist what you have to make it something that won't be considered cursed by most upstanding citizens of the world. Just having such an artifact around might make things uncomfortably... busy.

But if you can make one, it certainly would be and adequate degree of showing off. They write epics about the strife surrounding such artifacts. And hey, if they stick it in a sky-vault it'll probably be fine.

Perhaps The Double Edged Sword, a (sword/staff/gun) that (fires beams / inflicts / glows / provides) energy that (decreases (luck/strength/attributes) with a small chance of increase / reliably buffs the user with some downsides / temporarily(??) makes (you/them) a monster)

>>1051504
Oh dear you appear to be crossing the border between thic and fat

>>1051504
What items exist that can increase luck?

Ooh, another idea, though this almost seems like a waste, and is... a somewhat dangerous thing for a creature such as yourself to have or hand out.

Those two items have syngergy, along with Hin's gelcrafting, to create a glass sword. Not.... not a glass sword as in something that won't hold an edge and will shatter the first time it strikes something, the kind that will kill... well, pretty much anything. It'll shatter too, of course, one use only, all that potential expunged in a single burst of murder. I mean, I'm not saying it would have the potential to kill a god or anything like that, but the parameters are pretty ideal for this so unless I'm vastly overestimating you I think you'd be able to create a weapon that would be able to kill something significantly tougher than even you, Deem.

Which again, probably an incredibly bad idea. Impressive, but not necessarily practical, and certainly not something you want to be tossing into the world at random.

How bout you turn use that Bezoar for a mirror that shows possible future fates of the person it reflects. Not necessarily good, or likely futures, but possible ones.

Also, maybe you can combined that Stone of Poisoned Light with those light absorbing gems we created to make an accessory, like a braclet or necklace that has a more focused mutative effect, using the absorbing gems to soak up the excess light?

To make a glass sword: Grind up the Bezoar stone into powder. The powder should be burned in the furnace as a catalyst, and will infuse most of it's energy into the stone, which will be ground down and then melted, and then mixed with sand and cooled in a mold made of your own raw mana infused clay. A series of smaller daggers might ensure a human assassination target would certainly die, but a single finely wrought glass sword would expunge enough deadly force to kill a titan or demigod.

Though, keep in mind, you'll probably be poisoning Hin's forge with a bad dose of fate. Another of those play harder, win bigger type situations.

>>1052285
I've seen that one before. It doesn't end well.

Wait... I got it!
>Mirrorcatch Box: A magical solution to recording power in its most primordial form. While the original designs were ridiculous - light inevitably absorbs into inert matter, regardless of its supernaturally reflective properties - applying a power source to this artifact allows the user to prolong the lifespan of the captured lightbeams (from like, zero) by bending spacetime into a faux black hole and then 'copying' photons through forced quantum entanglement and detanglement.
Long story short, you stuff light in a box. This version needs a stable power source, but it can safely contain any form of light while powered. This doesn't just mean disco rainbows - light spells, unstable radiation, and even coded bits can be recorded and unleashed at your leisure. If there's an illusionist who can brainwash people with a lightshow, close your eyes and point this end at magic hands, then stuff their attack into their face when they think you've stopped shining the mirror.

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>Oh? A Questing Beast's bezoar? We told you we saw one during your Ghost Curse, right? I wonder if this is related... it would indeed be fateful for it to be from the questing beast that visited us.
Considering how they are usually obtained, you should hope not.

>You could combine these, and create a powerfully cursed item. Yes, cursed. This is something great heroes of old did, doing great feats under extreme duress to prove their worth to the gods.
Yes yes, I am quite familiar with heroes of old and their struggles to spite the gods. However no matter what rewards might be at the end of using it, I don't think an item that will tax its user is a good idea in this case. I don't want something with too many rough edges when I need to quickly and concisely show off its potential.

>A cursed lamp- one that only shines in one direction mind you- that bathes whatever it shines on in sickness and misfortune. Or perhaps we can invert the bezoar so the light gives what it bathes in beneficial mutations? Set the lamp up in a lil garden and harvest weird shit.
>An item that can control mutation.
>Are we allowed/supposed to use other ingredients? You could use that Darkling Gem as a way of changing how the ore directs its light, can't you?
The bezoar's natural proclivity for misfortune makes using it seems risky. With the help of the Darkling Gem it will be possible to filter its effects to be more helpful. I do need to think about developing more variety in my denizens, and getting more useful plants for my dungeon's gardens. I'll just need to ensure we have some examples of its effects ready when Olan arrives.

>Make a weapon with the bezoar. Whenever someone gets hurt by the weapon, their luck and fate has a high chance of taking a turn for the worse, with a low chance of only taking damage and their luck and fate remain unchanged.
A simple and practical way of directing the unexpected misfortune at others and possibly quite spectacular to see in action. Good idea.

>Ooh, another idea, though this almost seems like a waste, and is... a somewhat dangerous thing for a creature such as yourself to have or hand out.
>Those two items have synergy, along with Hin's gelcrafting, to create a glass sword. Not.... not a glass sword as in something that won't hold an edge and will shatter the first time it strikes something, the kind that will kill... well, pretty much anything. It'll shatter too, of course, one use only, all that potential expunged in a single burst of murder.
>Which again, probably an incredibly bad idea. Impressive, but not necessarily practical, and certainly not something you want to be tossing into the world at random.
Why are you telling me bad ideas then?

"I think we'll be best off making two items." I say to Hin as we settle in for a night of crafting theory. After our examination, the glowing stone is back in its lead lined case and the bezoar's been put safely away too. Hin and I set to sketching out the forms this might take.

"Hammer, do you think?" Hin asks. "I think you're the only person who uses a sword."

"Mmm, I suppose it has a better tie to the weight of misfortune anyway." I agree.

>A series of smaller daggers might ensure a human assassination target would certainly die, but a single finely wrought glass sword would expunge enough deadly force to kill a titan or demigod.
If only it were so easy...

>The Divergent Egg relates to potential, which has synergy with fate doesn't it?
I used that egg up in drunken mana battery experiments. The eggs that came of it only seem to have potential related to me.

>What are the odds that you could subtly improve the function of the item you make by using some of the distilled mystery goo?
Decent but it'd make them harder to work with. I don't want to inject too many unknowns into these pieces. I still haven't properly seen the effects of it on myself and Alkaline.

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>Oof, it's going to be difficult to think of an item without a high chance of killing the wielder! Or the smith...
Don't be ridiculous, I know what I am doing and Hin is a professional.

"For an extra layer of protection in handling them, I think we might be best off doing some quick work with your gelforging." I say to Hin. "Alkaline's slime has proven to be fairly curse resistant. Have you had the chance to experiment with that much yet?"

Hin grins at me. "Check it out." she says, getting a tin off a high shelf of her forge. "Water wasn't working great to start, so tried something really simple first with something we had plenty of."

Orange Crisps: Chunks of the orange goo processed by Hin into a substance like peanut brittle. A tasty sweet.

"This is very good." I say after trying one. "You should make more of these when you have some time!" I declare, reaching for a handful.

"Didn't you get cursed by eating too much of that goo?"

I reluctantly drop them back in the tin.

"Well the others probably would like some too." I mumble. I'll have a golem bring me a snack instead.

>Oh dear you appear to be crossing the border between thic and fat
So what of it?

Hin has one herself before she whisks the tin away. "Anyway, the next stuff is a bit more useful." my blacksmith says, next throwing what looks like an ingot of opaque slime on the tabletop with a splat. It flattens into a pancake and starts slowly oozing back into its original shape.

Treated Slime: Surplus slime from Alkaline and her slimes that's been turned into a durable, stretchy substance. Particularly resistant to impacts and slightly absorbent to curse magic and poison.

"Have you made much with it yet?" I ask.

"Kind of?" Hin says. "I'm still experimenting with the exact process. It's pretty versatile. I can draw out thin sheets of it, but it'd end up as pretty clinging clothing. I gave some to Merud for the little orange slime's suit since he was worried the frog leather was wearing out. I've made some more rubbery slabs that might do well as heavier armour. I tried a more complex mix too but it didn't really work out as intended."

She pulls out two little pieces of shaped slime.

Slime Swimsuit: A two piece swimsuit made from treated slime that's absorbed the waters of a health soak. Grants a minor increase in endurance when wet. There's a chance it will help enhance a feminine physique.

I squint.

"Why did you make this?" I say to Hin.

"Ah Reisarf was asking for some new swimmers because, you know, occasional girl." Hin says, "And I needed material that would that would be light and durable while wet. I tried adding some of the potion that goes in the special bath you made since I figured it'd help with stamina for exercise, but it came out like this." She pauses a second. "Think Kallia will buy it?"

"That isn't something I want to encourage." I say flatly.

"Yeah might be a bit much." Hin agrees. "Although," she leans forward, a mischievous twinkle in her eyes, "you did say you're trying for a fecund earth dungeon which, you know, implies some level of-" Hin sculpts some round shapes out of the air with her hands.

"..."

"Deem, where are you going?"

"I've kept you up too late, good night Hin!"

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Maybe I should have stayed longer, I have the night practically to myself. Most of my denizens are sleeping. Alkaline seems to be retching a little, one of those absurd numbers of curses she's piled on herself giving her some trouble. She doesn't seem to be in any real distress and the door is firmly closed so I will respect her privacy and not focus my attention there to peep in on her.

Reisarf and Stargazer are perched up high in the hidden valley looking at the stars but I don't want to intrude. I head out it see what they might be looking at. The stars are not too bad, I suppose.

We have a feast tomorrow with the produce Hin, Alkaline and Merud liberated from the Orange Crags. A little celebration of the effort we've put in and the progress we've made. With Reisarf and Stargazer attempting to put some more magic in their cooking hopefully it'll prevent a recurrence of those disturbing dreams after I pour out most of my mana to help Hin craft the hammer and the lantern.

For the moment though, these fruits are distracting. I used a pair of twigs to replace the branches Hin pulled out for me but the weight of the fruit on them is dragging them down and banging fruit against my ears and the side of my head whenever I move. I'm oozing some sappy goo at the connection too.

I drank the locus fluid and it's sitting like a weight in my stomach. I haven't really acted on trying to take advantage of it outside of sipping some mana potion. I know I complained about unruly weeds but it feels a bit like my denizens are all finding some way ahead while I founder around.

One thing I should try is the thought I keep having of adding some more plants to my golem body. I'm outside, I'm sure I could find some useful mundane plant should I put my mind to it.

Out of the more exotic goods I have, I do have a recently acquired pile of slime fruits. I could take some branches off the chrysopear trees but the poor thing is already sickly from being transplanted and that may stress it some more. I have the bomb flower, which has thrived and put out runners after exposure to those spores but attaching bombs to myself seems like a bad idea. The sap bomb is less so, but still a bomb. There's the copper oreberry bush but it is a small bush. There's a handful of the orange chrysanthemums but they're mainly useful as an icon on my behalf.

Perhaps I should focus on something simple.

>>1055346
Try a century flower. Make it bloom more than once every hundred years and amaze everybody.

Go for the biggest plants - trees. Do you have cinnamon trees in the area? Eat some bark, it's delicious. Try and mold the sap into a solid cap to prevent more leaking. Then you'll have sticky buns!
If you don't have this marvelous plant nearby, I think you should dine on the chrysanthemums. As an icon of you it will reinforce your self image.

>>1055346
A cactus to match your personality

Fat and round with a prickly exterior

> Why are you telling me bad ideas then?

Because you've shown a truly audacious degree of daring and bravado in the past. Don't knock it as bad just because it's incredibly reckless.

Plowing ahead with a ridiculous incaution and dealing with the consequences of your actions has worked very well, and while you clearly still have a lot of dangling concerns you've coped with your situation remarkably.

I don't think any of those plants would really be an improvement, the fruits are already an irritation you need to deal with. You're going to have to make a little golem to follow you around picking them up as they fall off your antlers.

I don't think you are viney enough though. Is the thaumatorium overgrown with vines and ivy yet? Some of that would be perfect.

>Orange Crisps
You have a delightfully inventive blacksmith, Deem. I wonder if you could trick any invaders into eating enough of these to curse themselves...

>Feast
For some here, a well-earned celebration indeed.

>Fecund
Hin has a very minor point. You have become a bit more mature in your appearance, why deny others the same if they seek it? That said, yes, there are limits and your dungeon should not risk getting too ludicrous a reputation. But sometimes those limits can be stretched a bit for cameraderie. Or comedy. Or both. Kallia would probably buy such a swimsuit for actual gold - for the laugh of it alone.

>Orange seepage
Sticky hairbuns might have potential, but may clash with your antlers. Perhaps strands of your seepage can be woven into giving your hair for a bit of color - like giving yourself a few marker stripes of orange running through your black hair...? Or maybe Hin can gelforge your seepage into something cool that's integrated to your head. Not sure what'd be fitting there, though. Unless she can actually fully play hairdresser here, given your unique nature and her rare ability.

>Add plants to golem body
I can see a garland - or maybe a fluffily flowery scarf! - of chrysanthemums looking rad on you, even if it's only for aesthetics. Aside from the orange variant, you also have reds and yellows up in the hidden valley, don't you? Maybe you could make multiple versions - and have the benefit of them being something you could carefully take on and off and just plant in a pot or garden when you're not using them.

Or you can hold out until the chrysopear tree recovers more and take a cutting from it. I think I like this idea in particular. It's one of the more fitting additions you could add to your bounty-giving repertoire - as there are certainly many other golems around here who'd benefit from receiving them from you. An early second source of chrysopears would not hurt!

>Alkaline retching
That'd be the nausea curse - she might be spilling some locus fluid here. I believe there was also a crystal congealment curse, so if she remains in one place for too long you might have to dig her out tomorrow. Or have Reisarf hit her with even more curses (of formlessness).

You could knock and ask if she's still doing okay. Actually, while she might deserve her current woes, it'd be a shame for her to miss tomorrow's feast from still being mega-cursed. Is there any way you could speed up her curse clearing without making her feel like you're directly intervening?

Did the chrysopears you ate earlier contain any seeds? If so, that might be a way to integrate them without further damaging the sapling. The effects might be interesting.

Barring that, I would suggest that the copper oreberry bush is actually the best candidate. Even if it's metal and not stone or clay, it's already to some degree a hybrid of mineral and floral. Since you're trying to mesh plant and earth here, that seems like it would make it well suited to what you've got planned.

Also, you're not really using it for anything right now.

>>1055362
>Actually, while she might deserve her current woes, it'd be a shame for her to miss tomorrow's feast from still being mega-cursed.
Look, she gotta learn. Let her suffer from her mistakes, it builds character. If you bail her out every time, she'll become spoiled.

>>1055362
>Is there any way you could speed up her curse clearing without making her feel like you're directly intervening?
Probably not, but if it makes her feel better Deem needs to go on a diet too. They'll both be sitting this feast out - the homunculi can have Deem's plate.

>>1055375
the whole point of the feast is so they can put magic into the food so Deem gets some back. also, Deem doesn't get fatter by digestion, all she needs to do is just shed some clay when she's not cursed anyway

>>1055345
Hin has a point you know, Deem. You're looking very on theme at the moment, it can't hurt to lean into it a sensible amount, surely?

As for the swimsuit, I wouldn't want people to be wearing something like that when the dungeon is invaded, since we don't want to get a reputation for being a salacious dungeon, but in downtime it doesn't seem harmful.

As for plants, I'll admit I'm having difficult with ideas. Maybe some manner of fruit tree, I'm thinking that it might supplant what you're growing on your horns with something else. Vines are a classic when it comes the overgrown look. Melons but A) you already have those, and B) it's not a serious suggestion anyway.

Followup to previous suggestion about the oreberry bush being the best candidate: would it STAY a small bush if we exposed it to some of the green-thumb spoors? They seem to make plants grow VERY fast...

>>1055346
Are those orange stars special?

>plants on body?
How will that work when you use enhancements on yourself? Especially Gigant Form. Will the plants grow with you? Can you control plants growing on the body?
Oreberries seem like a good idea. You could potentially merge the metallic essence into the golem body, for added toughness.

>>1055346
>> There's a handful of the orange chrysanthemums but they're mainly useful as an icon on my behalf.

Well, you have been floundering a bit about your direction, and things being out of control, maybe the flowers would serve as a bit of a grounding element, like a reminder to reinforce your self-image?

Alkaline ate a bomb and she’s turned out perfectly fine.

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>A cactus to match your personality
>Fat and round with a prickly exterior
This isn't a desert and you don't need to keep insulting my weight.

Are you trying to get me to throw you off the mountain?

>You have a delightfully inventive blacksmith, Deem. I wonder if you could trick any invaders into eating enough orange crisps to curse themselves...
Unless they've somehow laced themselves with raw mana, I don't think so.

>Alkaline ate a bomb and she’s turned out perfectly fine.
Honestly it's her temper that's proving to be more of a worry to me than her diet.

>Try and mold the sap into a solid cap to prevent more leaking. Then you'll have sticky buns!
That doesn't sound too appealing. It should stop once these replacement horns have grown some. I might see about contriving a syringe to store some of this before the curse on me expires.

>I don't think you are viney enough though. Is the thaumatorium overgrown with vines and ivy yet? Some of that would be perfect.
Vines are versatile things, I could think about using some for hair.

>I think you should dine on the chrysanthemums. As an icon of you it will reinforce your self image.
It seems a little circular, a little exaggerated: an icon of myself to hold up and remind me of myself.

>Did the chrysopears you ate earlier contain any seeds? If so, that might be a way to integrate them without further damaging the sapling. The effects might be interesting.
>Barring that, I would suggest that the copper oreberry bush is actually the best candidate. Even if it's metal and not stone or clay, it's already to some degree a hybrid of mineral and floral. Since you're trying to mesh plant and earth here, that seems like it would make it well suited to what you've got planned.
Yes the pears have seeds, as do the oreberries some to think of it.

>Followup to previous suggestion about the oreberry bush being the best candidate: would it STAY a small bush if we exposed it to some of the green-thumb spores? They seem to make plants grow VERY fast...
Getting these seeds to sprout seems like an excellent use of some of the spores Reisarf and Stargazer gathered.

>Plowing ahead with a ridiculous incaution and dealing with the consequences of your actions has worked very well, and while you clearly still have a lot of dangling concerns you've coped with your situation remarkably.
Fine, I'll try a lot of things! Plants will be more temperamental than earth and stone anyway, I might get more success trying a few different things.

I have a golem gather the supplies and come to me.

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I lie down amid the gathered sticks and vines as my golem applies the rarer seeds and the green thumb spores.

>Hin has a point you know, Deem. You're looking very on theme at the moment, it can't hurt to lean into it a sensible amount, surely?
My golem is my dungeon in miniature, so that clearly suggests that I should lean into it less than my dungeon does, don't you think?

>Well, you have been floundering a bit about your direction, and things being out of control, maybe the flowers would serve as a bit of a grounding element, like a reminder to reinforce your self-image?
Self image...

You don't properly appreciate the artificiality of it, I think.

I am something ruined and broken. My dungeon is something constructed about my wounded Heart, gathering up my fragmented power and patching over the gaps and lacks in myself to present a less damaged face to the world.

This time the aspect I have presented as my strongest face is my tie to the element of earth. Sturdy, versatile and something familiar and comforting to me. Perhaps too much so. To tread new ground I decided I wanted to layer in a fecund aspect, to help nurture my denizens and my dungeon's surroundings. Something to help prepare those who approach me to venture out into the world.

I hope to add shadow next, to let my denizens explore their own mysteries to add to their strength as I recuperate in the restful darkness. Maybe I am more tired than I know.

I think I'm getting sappy.

I don't have my normal distance from my denizens. Perhaps I'm too approachable. They've seen me at my weakest and in all sorts of compromising positions but... I don't hate it. I have enjoyed being more involved with them day to day.

How do I want to armour myself against the world?

Despite everything, despite all the long years and indignities, I am still strong. I will rise. I will always rise. I will grow as I watch my denizens grow. All these fruiting things I have: oreberries, slime fruit, chrysopears. All lures: treasure, monsters, self refinement. The Labyrinth Game to draw my champions in and uplift them.

I feel the plants shift as they seize on this image, starting to interweave with my golem body.

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I taste ritual in the air, perhaps I'm turning into an unruly weed myself.

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Deem (Disperse Mode)
Level 2 Homunculus
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Power: B (C => B)
Vitality: B
Accuracy: D
Speed: D
Wits: E
Skill: C
Spirit: S
Luck: E

A mysterious golem girl from a lost era. A lush body fashioned of clay and stone that's embraced nature to house a frightful spirit, though she's not entirely comfortable in her skin. The engine of calamity that drives her goes where it will.

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Detected Abilities
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Woody Homunculus Body Deem's body is an amalgam of alchemically treated clay, stone and plants animated by her magic. This makes her difficult to injure and even her bare hands are effective weapons. She's refined an incomplete form of golemetry's Fourth Magic, the capacity to connect to the world, which makes her body more lifelike. She can eat and drink, and benefit from potions and healing magic. She gain small amounts of mana from respiring, sunbathing, eating and drinking. Living things grow and heal faster in her presence.

Distill and Disperse Modes: Deem has two forms. Distill Mode refines and process energy, while Disperse Mode spreads it. Disperse Mode loses access to Spell Revolution and instead gains Earth Surge.

Gigant Mode: Deem can heal and enlarge herself by absorbing additional earth, clay and loose rock into her body. The degree of physical improvement depends on size and the quality of materials used. Integrated plants grow to fit. A larger body is more mana intensive to move.

Hidden Reservoir: Deem's heart fragment allows her to replenish the mana reserves in her golem body by drawing upon the energy stored in her Dungeon Heart. This gives her a mana capacity that vastly exceeds that of an ordinary magic user. However, the majority of the spells she remembers are designed for use in dungeons or rituals and hence are quite expensive.

High-Speed Ritual: The extraordinary density of spell channels in Deem's body and her familiarity with multiple simultaneous activations of them allows her to cast high complexity rituals in a fraction of the time it would normally take. However, simpler spells can't take advantage of this parallel processing of spell elements as they are typically optimised to be cycled rapidly through a single channel.

Ancient Power: Deem has strong affinities for earth magic, reinforcement, enchantment and golemetry. However, she's accustomed to using these spells as a dungeon, not as a mage. Simple spells and spells similar to what she'd use as a dungeon, such as golem creation and advanced reinforcement shouldn't give her too much trouble, however other magic will require experimentation. Deem can only use Rote Spells via Spell Revolution

Damaged Spell Channels: The damage which removed a fragment from Deem's Heart has lingering consequences, as some of her channels cross the cleaved surface. These severed circuits are not entirely responsive to Deem's control and cannot open or close properly, causing slow mana leakage. If she's careless or unlucky when casting spells, she might activate a damaged channel and bleed mana or lose control of her spell casting.

Spell Revolution (Distill only): Nearly completed spells are circulated continuously in a closed loop of fully intact mana channels, allowing it to be cast very quickly when required. This is preset to a handful of rote spells and each spell takes a considerable amount of time to reconstruct following cast.

Rote Spells:
In My Image: Copies magical effects affecting Deem to the target. This can also be used to suppress magic currently affecting the target prior to casting the spell.
Sculpted Simulacrum: Conjures a effigy of the target constructed of materials based on its surroundings and animates it as a golem. It's able to mimic some of the target's abilities.

Earth Surge (Disperse only): Deem can momentarily amplify her physical abilities with a pulse of mana. It loses effectiveness if she's not in contact with the ground.

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New Ability Unlocked!
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Ritual Spells:
False Idol - Verdant Image (Active): Deem accumulates power within her golem body, gradually magnifying the power of her Distill Mode. This happens by her spending time in a shrine and people bringing her offerings or seeking her out. Her healing aura is intensified and magic items, treasures and denizens that spend time in her presence have a chance of being enhanced. This ritual remains in effect until she disperses the power as a dungeon spell, spends a day outside her territory or fights as an aggressor. Deem must accept a large offering to activate this rite.

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New Structure Unlocked!
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Shrine: A place people can gather to place offerings for Deem's guidance and blessings. The Heart Chamber is automatically a shrine.

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I am conflicted. Perhaps I am not being entirely honest with myself. I talked of being more involved with my denizens but this encourages me to step back.

>Hin has a very minor point. You have become a bit more mature in your appearance, why deny others the same if they seek it? That said, yes, there are limits and your dungeon should not risk getting too ludicrous a reputation. But sometimes those limits can be stretched a bit for cameraderie. Or comedy. Or both. Kallia would probably buy such a swimsuit for actual gold - for the laugh of it alone.
I suppose I would be a hypocrite at this point.

>As for the swimsuit, I wouldn't want people to be wearing something like that when the dungeon is invaded, since we don't want to get a reputation for being a salacious dungeon, but in downtime it doesn't seem harmful.
Fine, is there someone I should offer it to (if they want it)? Or should I see if Kallia might buy it.

>You're going to have to make a little golem to follow you around picking them up as they fall off your antlers.
I think I do need an attendant! At a minimum it might let me prove this rite. The ranks of my homunculi are becoming depleted but I have a number of golems to chose from all the same:

1)The homunculus with the shortest hair that tends to use knives. This one frequently leads the other golems.
2)The other female homunculus with spiky short hair, this one works well with the brutes.
3)The homunculus I had Merud model after Kallia but then we changed the face a little. I think it still somehow has a little of her attitude.
4)The homunculus modelled after my original golem body.
5)The male homunculus. Did we only make one of these?
6)The gardener golem with big hair and the big sword. Formerly a homunculus and already one of the more advanced golems.
7) The woody brute, already a highly advanced golem and I haven't tested the effects of the spores on it yet.
8) Big handed brute. One of the stronger golems, sleepy when not fighting.
9) Basic brute, the remaining brutre golem, a frequent flexer.
10) Puppet golem modelled after my first homunculus body.
11) The stick-in-the-mud golem. Technically two golems. Merud's already hard at work on upgrading it to show to Olan.
12) Belphejar Replica. A cauldron-like golem. Belphejar doesn't like it.
13) Golem horse - one of the two golems brought by Merud for use as beasts of burden.
14) Centaur.
15) Pancake. Pancake is currently sealing the chamber full of spores so I don't know why I'm even listing this.

>>1056036
This may sound weird coming from one of us, but you might want to put on more clothes...

I'm gonna say 9. Beefcake to go with the cheesecake.

3! Because Kallia is delightful.

Number 4 is definitely plotting to overthrow you, so pick them as your attendant. Keep your enemies closer, or something.

Also, do the curtains match the drapes?

Either the Doyle clone to brew the leaves into tea, or the puppet as a walking, non-talking marker of progress.

>>1056036
Can I just say you are totally rockin the Gaia/mother goddess look

Number 4. That golem is good with her hands…

>>1056034
>you don't need to keep insulting my weight.
Well, remember that a larger body is more mana intensive to move, and you're trying to recover mana. Plus there's the image factor: most people don't consider rotund bodies to be attractive, and people are more likely to do what an attractive person wants them to. Your weight is a detriment to you.

>>1056036
>3)The homunculus I had Merud model after Kallia but then we changed the face a little. I think it still somehow has a little of her attitude.
>4)The homunculus modelled after my original golem body.
These two are good options.

>15) Pancake. Pancake is currently sealing the chamber full of spores so I don't know why I'm even listing this.
Because Pancake is the best boy and deserves to be mentioned often.

The stick in the mud golem because it's not overly useful otherwise and has a humorous appearance

I vote for 10. As a visual representation of how you started out, keeping it around to contrast with the you that exists now could be a reminder of how far you've managed to come. It feels like you could use a little bit of uplifting sometimes, Deem.

Other notes/thoughts:

- Would it be possible to use Reisarf's Matter Virus in conjunction with Hin's Gelforging? In particular, fusing the new Refined Slime with stone or cloth to make it a little more sturdy or workable sounds like it could make something potentially useful.

- Would having Moriko drink some of the Locus Fluid help her see results from wearing the Covetuous Ring faster, or make them more pronounced? Or any other change she's hoping to gain from her Mana Vacancy, I suppose. I know rushing her would be bad, but part of me is worried it might be better to make sure a change happens with something positive than wait and leave it to chance.

Edit: just re-read the list, same reasoning applies to 4 as well. Consider this a vote for both, I guess.

3 for Kallia-golem. It may be one of the more homunculus-like homunculuses.

Go test out your new capabilities with Merud once he wakes and see if he has any additional insights to glean. He's probably the one who's going to be most clinically interested in your new assets - and abilities and any changes to your attendant.

And he'd be less likely to make fun.

(Hin is going to have such a field day here.)

It's certainly a change... but I think we've established those need not be so bad. Just remain yourself and take heart - no pun intended - in the lovely passive increase in your mana this form gives you.

>>1056036
1 seems to be the most practical. You can get extra hands more easily if more work needs doing, and a knife cuts down fruit easier.

About your new Shrine ability, you're still the boss around here. That's going to conflict with having a social life, no matter what. If you have to leave for any reason, any requests made during your absence will hopefully be still standing by the time you get back. (Like work email.)

>>1056062
>Well, remember that a larger body is more mana intensive to move, and you're trying to recover mana.
She may be unconsciously building up a mana buffer. Negging her about it won't help, only addressing her insecurities might. I'll add: there's nothing wrong with being a tank. Every adventuring party needs one.
>most people don't consider rotund bodies to be attractive,
Speak for yourself.
>people are more likely to do what an attractive person wants them to.
Yes, but attractiveness also correlates to culture. I'm sure Deem is observant enough to notice what kinds of bodies or fashion styles people will listen to, and model herself like that if she wanted to. Though, once an appearance of health is established, being exotic is it's own kind of attractiveness.

>>1056062
Don't body shame. Different people consider different things to be attractive, so your tastes are not the standard that everyone needs to follow.

>>1056093
Agreeing with all of this.

The gardener golem is busy tending to the other golem, have the Deem puppet stick around.
It’s becoming more apparent that curse breaking is high priority. You need to trim the fat from the Treem, especially if you plan to adopt a sedentary lifestyle of idolatry. Sitting there getting fat off your underlings’ worship and labor will tarnish your image with friend and financier alike.

>>1056113
>Don't body shame. Different people consider different things to be attractive, so your tastes are not the standard that everyone needs to follow.
I'm not body shaming, it's how it is. It's my own shape, too. I'm not saying nobody does, but most people don't. Pretending it's not like that is not being body positive, it's being delusional. I also wouldn't be saying this to someone whose body wasn't a golem that could literally shed clay at any time to change her shape.

>>1056124
Seriously? I know *several* people who would find how she looks in the last panel VERY appealing. Especially with the added height. Hell, I even sent the image to a few of them.

Conventionally attractive is not the only form of attractive. If she keeps looking like that, I'd say the biggest issue is going to be adventurers not accidentally calling her 'mommy' when she does boss-fight duty.

>>1056124
>whose body wasn't a golem that could literally shed clay at any time to change her shape.
I believe you're forgetting that Deem is currently unable to do that. She can't shed any clay to change shape, she's always gonna default to her current form.

>>1056132
She'll break the curse soon enough, we just haven't put any priority on it.

>>1056130
Just cause you know several people who do doesn't mean the majority of people won't. Look I'm not trying to kinkshame anyone, I just think that if we're being 100% practical, a slimmer body will be more advantageous for her than a rotund one.
And I think we're getting a sidetracked here and don't wanna flood the thread with this, so I'm dropping the subject

>>1056036
...are you religious, Deem? I'd imagine not, but who knows. Are there gods that you just don't follow? How tangible are they?

Becoming an earthbound false goddess could cause some overwhelming consequences depending on who catches wind of it. I am not sure you want a small army of paladins smashing your door down to smite the blasphemers and their heretical diety.

>>1056134
at risk of throwing more fuel on the fire, there is a valid point to be made that more weight is harder to move. I would agree that Deem should either lose weight, OR bulk up more to maintain combat effectiveness. Honestly, it really doesn't matter what Deem looks like as long as she can still have quick reflexes and and strong strikes. This is all assuming a homunculus's clay muscles are on par with a human's as far as strength to weight ratio goes. Tbh I am fine with how Deem looks atm, but her arms do look rather spindly.

4)The homunculus modelled after my original golem body.

>My golem is my dungeon in miniature, so that clearly suggests that I should lean into it less than my dungeon does, don't you think?
I'd suggest it means your golem should exemplify the themes, since it's the avatar of the dungeon. So it needs to be able to indicate what the dungeon is about when outside of it, and serve as a set-piece / focal point inside the dungeon, especially when you've got boss enhancements applied.

Granted- I don't think it's necessary for me to say this now, since your new form very much works with the themes. The curves sell the fecund theme, while the increased height and woody legs + horns balance that out, and the earth theme is always present. Overall it's a attractive (very much so depending on preferences) but also one that's strong and not to be trifled with. I like it!

For those talking about practicality: I'd like to point out that Deem's Power increased with this new form, and her Speed didn't decrease. Plus this form has access to a physical boost ability. Not liking the look is entirely fair (I'd only comment that she's hardly rotund, at most just thicc. Plus the changes elsewhere kinda balance out the thiccness.), I'm just not sure the practicality argument holds water.

>>1056036
As for an attendant- I'd suggest 3, or maybe 9. I have a suspicion the golems with more personality would work better with Verdant Image as opposed to more automaton-like, it basically gives you a boost for being worshipped? So those with a personality and inclination to pay attention to you would work well. The Kallia-golem would work well I think, the flexer might be too self-focused, and the other golems-with-attiude seem to have leadership roles within the golems, so taking them away to be an attendant might hurt golem coordination.

For the swimsuit, correct me if I'm wrong but I assume you don't want to wear it. So I'd let Hin offer it to Reisarf to see if they wanted it as originally intended, and if they don't- see if any other denizen wants it before seeing if Kallia would buy it.

If we are really going to argue it, yes, your weight is... just a bit too much. Enjoying this many sizes over standard humanoid is a fringe trait, not normal, and while you could give less a shit how a bunch of mortals feel about your appearance, I'm sure Deem has some level of idea what she's looking for in appearance, and somehow I doubt quadruple thick is her ideal self image.

Buuut since as we know intent seems to manifest itself physically around Deem I think Deem is going to need to take some direct steps to bring her size down a little and end the curse.

In other words Deem, you need to go on a diet. You really shouldn't have much trouble with that, since you don't generally need to eat and all this is the result of you trying to eat an earth locus into your control. Just stop snacking and stick to mildly alcoholic drinks at meals with your denizens until you are a shape you enjoy.

Btw, Deem, your new form is looking very imposing. The wood highlights to your body are functional and look good, and the vine hair with flower highlights very is very attractive.

You should bring the male homonculous around with you.

>>1056036
I think number 4 is a good option.

>arguing about Deem's appearance
Deem herself has expressed annoyance at everyone bringing up this topic and has stated that she doesn't care about it too much. I think that as long as she's comfortable in her own body, that's all that matters.

But if anyone wishes to continue pointlessly arguing about this, then please take it over to the Discussion Thread here: https://questden.org/kusaba/questdis/res/94347.html . That way you won't clutter the main quest thread.

I'd like to clarify what I meant by "addressing her insecurities", assuming the excessive eating and thiccness isn't just a curse. We should focus on resolving the causes, not just the symptoms. If it's a stress habit she picked up to cope after being traumatized by mana leaks and existential threats, then that means resolving the external threats, or internal fears, not changing the habit.

Still hope she keeps to the "Gaia/mother goddess look" (>>1056050) once the curse is lifted.

>>1056163
Why not double down instead and form an actual heretic counter-religion? Swallow Everything! Break the Church! Break the Sky! The Sky will Fall the Sky will Fall the Sky will F-

Yeah, that's a Bad Idea. Cathartic, but Bad.

>>1056168
Muscling up the upper body a bit would make people think twice about making fat jokes. Find the right balance of muscle and thicc to rock the asethetic of a "brawn and beauty" nature goddess.

>>1056187
Dieting is for chumps. If you want to burn off excess mana right, a proper exercise routine is where it's at. I bet it'll toughen her body up enough that her vitality will jump up a grade once the curse is lifted.

>>1056191
My dude we literally suggested curses for Deem a while back and it was one of them. See: >>1039407

>>1056163
Just to nip the potential counterargument that having more people (in this case, paladins full of righteous fury) storm your dungeon would be a good thing because of the Labyrinth Game; they would not be there for gold. They would breach the doors, kill or capture those inside, tear down the walls until they destroy the resurrection matrix, and then crucify the prisoners.

I kind of feel like that would sort of ruin the Labyrinth game.

Deem, your golem is getting very curvy. Your investor is likely to make sexual advances upon your person. While yes, you have seen everything before, the immediacy of this experience is likely to have a greater effect than you expect, so try to be prepared. It would also reduce the professionalism of their tour.

>>1056093
i like more mud it means more material to repair with or cut of to make into golems fast, can also store liquids in pockets or packets, other then that i really want to see a solid wellbuilt skeleton get as skinny as possible and make it as functional as possible then build onto that

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>Most people don't consider rotund bodies to be attractive, and people are more likely to do what an attractive person wants them to. Your weight is a detriment to you.
>Speak for yourself.
>Sitting there getting fat off your underlings’ worship and labor will tarnish your image with friend and financier alike.
>I'd say the biggest issue is going to be adventurers not accidentally calling her 'mommy' when she does boss-fight duty.
>Deem should either lose weight, OR bulk up more to maintain combat effectiveness.
>The curves sell the fecund theme, while the increased height and woody legs + horns balance that out, and the earth theme is always present.
>If we are really going to argue it, yes, your weight is... just a bit too much.
>Deem, your new form is looking very imposing. The wood highlights to your body are functional and look good, and the vine hair with flower highlights very is very attractive.
>Deem, your golem is getting very curvy. Your investor is likely to make sexual advances upon your person.
...

I don't want to hear it.

>I think Deem is going to need to take some direct steps to bring her size down a little and end the curse.
>Deem, you need to go on a diet. You really shouldn't have much trouble with that, since you don't generally need to eat and all this is the result of you trying to eat an earth locus into your control.
No, I am going to attend a feast in a few hours because preventing further loss of consciousness from a lack of mana is more important than vanity over my golem body's exact shape. I am about to contribute a lot of mana to crafting an item, my denizens have gone to some lengths to gather some mana rich ingredients and consuming more mana rich food was identified as the most reliable short term method to provide some reserves.

Curse breaking has been lower priority than everything else going on in my dungeon at the moment and I'll have another chance to break it before Olan's arrival if it's that important.

>This may sound weird coming from one of us, but you might want to put on more clothes...
I've worn less. This is fine.

>Would having Moriko drink some of the Locus Fluid help her see results from wearing the Covetous Ring faster, or make them more pronounced? Or any other change she's hoping to gain from her Mana Vacancy, I suppose.
I will let her know it is an option when I next have a chance to speak to her.

>Go test out your new capabilities with Merud once he wakes and see if he has any additional insights to glean.
I'll find him when he wakes up.

>...are you religious, Deem? I'd imagine not, but who knows. Are there gods that you just don't follow? How tangible are they?
What do you think?

>Becoming an earthbound false goddess could cause some overwhelming consequences depending on who catches wind of it. I am not sure you want a small army of paladins smashing your door down to smite the blasphemers and their heretical deity.
Aren't you leaping to some conclusions here?

>They would breach the doors, kill or capture those inside, tear down the walls until they destroy the resurrection matrix, and then crucify the prisoners.
No they couldn't, surely I'm still strong enough to... even if they did...

...

Whose benefit do you think the Labyrinth Game is for?

My denizens would die and then I would glut myself on vengeful atrocity. Yet another little calamity in a long, long, lo...

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Sleep.

Forget your name and still your sorrow.

Drown your spite in your bloody games.

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"Oh Deem you got bigger again." Reisarf says. "Did you get really hungry in the middle of the night?"

I shake my head. I'm outside Reisarf's little sleeping hut in the hidden valley.

"No?" I say.

"Oh it's a biggening thing again?" Reisarf says. "Those seem really popular right now! Who do you think is going to be the biggest?"

"Reisarf it's not a competition..." I squint at my alienist. Now something's bothering me. "Have you gotten smaller?"

"I'll try harder!"

"No! I -" I sigh. "Why have you changed?"

"Oh! I've been saving up mana in case you needed it, but right now we're testing if eating extra mana will make Stargazer fruit faster!" Stargazer looks at me from inside the hut, seemingly less happy at late night visitors.

"Did it work? Do you know if her fruit attract monsters too?"

"No it didn't. We think they might attract starspawn like her, that's the vibe we're getting off them. I'll tell you if we see any of those jellyfish! And I think being cursed has improved her mana absorption but her compression efficiency has taken a hit."

I inspect Stargazer properly. She is looking a bit chunkier.

"Do you mind if I take some of the surplus then?" I say. I guess I'll have the option of eating a bit less in the morning then.

Reisarf says yes on Stargazer's behalf and after some coaxing Stargazer puts her tail in my hand. We haven't tried out her Mana Battery with anyone but I get a smooth flow of slightly jellied feeling mana from her, which is a soothing balm that eases the numbed, leaky emptiness of my own stores of mana.

"Thank you Stargazer." I say, declining to pat her tail as she whips it out of my grasp. The slimmed down noodle wiggles at me aggressively. I wonder if she might be angry at me.

"Tomorrow please take as much of the raw mana as you like." I say to her. We're not using it for much else. She wiggles again.

>Would it be possible to use Reisarf's Matter Virus in conjunction with Hin's Gelforging? In particular, fusing the new Refined Slime with stone or cloth to make it a little more sturdy or workable sounds like it could make something potentially useful.

"By the way Reisarf." I say to my alienist. "Hin's started experimenting with her Gelforging, so if you have the time could you trying merging some of her products with other material?"

"Oh that sounds perfect! A lot of potential!" Reisarf says, nodding at Stargazer who nods back for reasons that escape me.

>For the swimsuit, correct me if I'm wrong but I assume you don't want to wear it.
I don't float, I don't exercise, and I don't particularly need more boob. So no.

>So I'd let Hin offer it to Reisarf to see if they wanted it as originally intended, and if they don't- see if any other denizen wants it before seeing if Kallia would buy it.
"Also there's a swimsuit for you that Hin made. It'll give you a little more stamina but it might have, ah, figure enhancing properties so if you don't want it..."

"I don't mind." Reisarf says. "I won't let you down!" She gives a jaw cracking yawn. "But sorry I'd better get back to bed. We have to start cooking early." She blinks. "Oh but why were you standing outside my house in the middle of the night?"

I blink.

>Number 4. That golem is good with her hands...
>As a visual representation of how you started out, keeping it around to contrast with the you that exists now could be a reminder of how far you've managed to come. It feels like you could use a little bit of uplifting sometimes, Deem.
"I was trying to work out which golem to keep with me, I think?" I grab a hold of the golem modelled after my original golem body. "This one I think."

Reisarf bids me a good night and Stargazer firmly closes the door.

I think that's everything I wanted to do before tomorrow.

I hear a rustle. Doyle is sneaking along the dirt path that services the little valley hidden behind my dungeon. I remain still, as he creeps along halfway hidden in the vegetation in the side of the path. What's he up to? Should I check this out or do I have enough on my plate?

Clearly, you have far too much on your plate.
Metaphors aside, however, is he still hungry for a little piece of Stargazer? I am quite curious how this tamed monster has been adapting to servitude.

Yes follow your denizen to whatever clandestine task he's about.

Also, did you lose time Deem? We catch glimpses of something here and there, secrets even you aren't allowed to know, but you losing track of yourself isn't something I've noticed in the past.

>>1058712
Of course we should watch what hes doing, it might be something funny

>Stargazer mad?
Stargazer might indeed have been a bit tetchy at the late-night intrusion and imposing. She's not some bonded mana container of yours, after all, even if Reisarf is happy to offer.

>Doyle
Let's leave Doyle be, your plate is indeed pretty topped at the moment and it seems he wants to be left alone if he's sneaking off like that. Perhaps he has some manner of secret hobby or something? We can always ask him about his late-night jaunt later. On that note, you could probably stand with giving him some one-on-one attention at some point, I'm just not sure now's the time.

>wat do
You could spend the rest of the night meditating, exercising your breathing to gather mana, and get a feel for your new abilities. You could try switching to Distill mode and loading a rote spell so that you can test it later in front of Merud, pending how long that takes.

Speaking of, absolutely chat with Merud in the morning regarding the, er, functionalities of your latest experiment in your form and function. Even the shrine and idol parts, though you may want to raise that topic delicately. Are there factions or people who might take offense to you inhabiting such a role, even if by chance or temporarily?

And yeah, give everyone a rundown of what occurred at breakfast.

>>1058712
>What's he up to? Should I check this out or do I have enough on my plate?
You must be really, really tired if you're considering letting a tamed monster of yours do stuff without your knowledge.

>Should I check this out or do I have enough on my plate?
Do you have plans for the rest of the night? Like, yes, you have a lot of stuff to do, but unless I'm mistaken all of it need to wait until the morning anyway, right?

On the subject of losing time... I don't think she is, so far at least. But just in case: Deem, hypothetically speaking, if something *was* altering your memories, what would be the easiest way to find out it was happening? There must be some signs you could look out for, right?

+1 to follow Belphejar

Checking up on him yourself won't be very stealthy. Send the stick golem.

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>Stargazer might indeed have been a bit tetchy at the late-night intrusion and imposing. She's not some bonded mana container of yours, after all, even if Reisarf is happy to offer.
I didn't burst into their house, Reisarf came out to talk to me. Perhaps I did accidentally interrupt something though, hopefully she doesn't hold a grudge.

>Deem, hypothetically speaking, if something *was* altering your memories, what would be the easiest way to find out it was happening? There must be some signs you could look out for, right?
...

>You must be really, really tired if you're considering letting a tamed monster of yours do stuff without your knowledge.
I don't demand my monsters spend every waking moment of their existence toiling for me.

>Checking up on him yourself won't be very stealthy. Send the stick golem.
It's still combined with the mud golem and Merud's been working on the two.

>Of course we should watch what he's doing, it might be something funny.
Hopefully it's something to give me some levity.

>Perhaps he has some manner of secret hobby or something?
As long as it's something healthier than spying on people in the bath.

>Yes follow your denizen to whatever clandestine task he's about.
I sneak after Doyle to the best of my ability. I freeze wheneve he pauses to look around, hoping to be mistaken for a rock or tree should part of me be exposed. I think I hear a rustle behind me early on, but I don't spot anyone following me. We reach a part near the valley wall, a tiny clearing dotted with flattish rocks that appear to have been dragged here and there's a small alcove filled with hollowed gourds and cracked and chipped containers. I get some strange smells when the breeze wafts to me from that directions.

One of Alkaline's hydra slimes is waiting here, along with one or two of the undeveloped slimes, all puffed up with liquid. The big slime pulls out the Waterbearer Wand. Doyle's potion contents are pulled out of him and stored. He sags from the loss of his vital fluids then the little slimes refill him.

Suddenly Moriko's imp is in amongst them, I didn't see her arrive. Doyle goes to run, but the imp kicks him and he subsides. She tosses a bunch of berries she was carrying into, then starts licking the juice from the squashed ones off her paws.

They wait a while longer, perhaps expecting someone else. Moriko's imp fidgets more and more.

Finally the imp snatches up one of the hydra slime's Bad Eggs and climbs on top of one of the rocks. Doyle quivers when she roughly tosses the volatile slime in. The slimes lounge around a very nervous cauldron gulper as the imp runs into the alcove to grab something else.

Are, are they bullying Doyle into making potions for them?

>Is he still hungry for a little piece of Stargazer? I am quite curious how this tamed monster has been adapting to servitude.
It looks like my other monsters are hungry for a piece of him.

What should I do about this? Should I surprise them, catch them in the act? I don't think I should let Doyle get walked over, and I should probably confiscate whatever ditchwater potions they've been brewing up. It looks like they've been doing this for a while though... and I think they were expecting someone else? There's been some planning put into this. Who's the ringleader here?

>>1058813
Hmm, I say you should hide to find out whos running things here first. And then ideally, you should find confront Doyle afterwards and help him settle things himself. Generally, the best way to deal with bullying is for the one bullied to no longer be a viable victim. Im sure we can help Doyle cook up something that will let him take any two of these. I mean, as long as the Ringleader isnt Alkaline or Hin or something.

Spot check: where are Alkaline and Chak?

I mean, I don't think we really want to discourage whatever this is just yet. As much as you can never trust an imp, this sort of self motivated ambition is something we've been seeking to encourage in Moriko in the first place, something she seemed to lose when her shadow separated. Or maybe something she was always suppressing, being honest.

Though really this isn't the definition of her learning to reign in that aspect of herself so she can be whole again, it's not something we should immediately interrupt.

I'd say continue watching. I want to see what it's trying to make. Or if it's just experimenting.

I wish there was an easy, clandestine way to get Moriko here so she could spy on it too, she might learn something this way.

>>1058813
Definitely wait and hide to see who's the leader here. It could be the imp though, don't discount that.

Apply more voyeurism!

If you're experiencing lost time, maybe you're the last guest they were waiting for! In which case, you're going to have to call it off. Doyle has rights too. In fact, he even has a doppelganger if they wish to continue this activity.

>>1058835
Back off for now, tell Moriko, have her take the lead in investigating further and figuring out appropriate disciplinary action for the imp.
Not the slimes, though - they're Alkaline's responsibility. Don't tell Alkaline about it until Moriko is reasonably sure she's not the ringleader.