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929115 No. 929115 ID: 70be57

Wiki https://tgchan.org/wiki/Root_and_Branches
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No. 945488 ID: f3cdde

You can if you want to, I’m just trying to be respectful of you miss. And I’m not really one to judge on what people’s body’s look like, the mother of my kids was half-spider and that was when I was still human.

ooc for a second second, seriously how old is Spirit? Because I thought she was she was a kid like underage. She was getting bedtime stories read to her for Christ’s sake so the other reason is if she is underage this is really creepy
No. 945574 ID: e51896

...now that I think about it, I don't think TV head is wearing clothing either. And going down this line of think, even I'm not wearing anything. Probably even before I became a puddle I don't think I had any clothing when I still had a body this whole time... maybe we're all nudists after all?

[inner thoughts]:Ok, maybe now is a good time to ask Spirit contaminator to set up negotiations with Demoria. I just first have to be polite and ask if I can make the request first

Anyway, okay, I'll listen to your request... and... um, speaking of requests, I too have a request, that is, if you want to hear what I am requesting, Spirit Contaminator.
Don't worry, I'm not going to ask to be free or have my old body back or have an ability to move again. It is something else entirely and unrelated. May I ask my request after you ask yours?
No. 945620 ID: 48a98a

There aren’t many clothes that will fit me, I mean c’mon my body is made up of mostly scrap metal. I don’t really think I need them. My body is pretty unstable too I guess. Come to think of it though, I remember feeling a lot more ashamed of it before I got shot.... who did that again...? Anyway yeah, you don’t bother me Spirit, but I’m always willing to talk and listen.
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No. 945662 ID: 8b660e

Wh- what did you just do? I can’t see anything on that side of my face! Well I mean I couldn’t anyway, I’m half blind, probably because of... uhhhhh.... something. But yeah what’s on the other side of my... monitor? Yeah what did you just do?
No. 945840 ID: e51896



...ok. I'll agree to your request. Perhaps if I roleplay as your brother, maybe I'll be able to discover a bit about my own identity of who I'm supposed to be: Marty or Null or someone else before my execution. And maybe perhaps you may discover some similarities between the two of us we haven't yet discovered during our roleplay, Spirit Contaminator, besides our similarities between you and I on trying to figure out our idenities of who I am and your identity of what your body exactly is, as well as your similarity between you and flint of losing family members.

So Flint, you'll be the mobility and strength, and I'll be the brains and do most of the talking.

And since you are known as Blizulia the Spirit Contaminator, Flint and I will be known as your twin brother, Flintin (combination of the names Martin and Flint), the Soul Corrupter

Now, as a twin bro of yours, it is my responsibility to try to ease your pain and unload the emotional weight you have on you, and because you look seem depressed, I ask: do you want a hug from your dearest twin brother? I'll be sure to be as gentle as possible with the hug if you agree that means you have to be gentle, Flint, with that new strong body of yours. Or perhaps you want me to read you a story or play a game with you as I like games? Maybe a snack like maybe something sweet?

[inner thoughts]: I'll wait a little longer before I ask Spirit Contaminator to contact Demoria until Spirit Contaminator is in a happier mood. Perhaps roleplaying as her brother for a while will lighten her mood enough. But I hope I'll be able to convince her before I am killed by the others.
No. 945874 ID: f7ff14
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No. 945932 ID: e51896


My sister, As I said: I'll agree to pretend to be your bro.
But, at the end of the day, while pretending might give me an idea of what you're going through... I don't know if pretending will truly make me understand exactly how you feel with having two different bodies being incompatible with each other if I'm to be honest with myself. Thus, I cannot give you a genuine experience of being your brother. Regardless I will still try to roleplay as your brother to the best of my abilities...
but, unless I can somehow share your body and mind, I don't think it is possible to truly understand what is going through your head...

ummm... I might have said something interesting by accident: you sharing your body and mind with me. You said something about my body not being compatible with Flint's robotic body thus we can't combine. But, um... what about you? are you compatible with me, hypothetically speaking?
Even though I know I'm in a weird puddle form that can't do much, I'm wondering if you have ever thought that maybe your body is actually compatible with mine in some way? Like maybe if you somehow get yourself and I to share the same body and mind, you may finally get somebody who truly knows what you are going through? Or maybe If you can somehow get me to share your body, I can be the adhesive that can keep your body, mind, and psyche together in harmony one shared body with me instead of having your body try to tear itself apart?

I don't know, I'm probably just spitballing weird nonsensical ideas because I'm weird, but I don't really have anything to lose or going for me at this point so, I guess I'm willing to try weird and crazy ideas...
No. 946084 ID: 8b660e


What about a puppy or a pet? Think we should get her one? That way she can always have a friend with her?
No. 946086 ID: e51896

I prefer cats, personally.
No. 946117 ID: f7ff14
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No. 946142 ID: 48a98a

*baymax style hug*
No. 946329 ID: e51896

[inner thoughts]:thats... kind of... unfair. While Spirit Contaminator and Tv Flint gets to feel the comfort of an embrace... I don't get to feel it up here as part of Flint's face... But maybe I don't deserve or not supposed to act or feel the physical comfort of embrace, but rather ace as the voice of comfort. Or maybe, I need someone's voice of comfort for myself?

ok, I'll swallow my pride and admit this: I really have no understanding of anything of what I should be doing or what purpose I should be fulfilling anymore, or what my place in life is. It all stems from my conflicting desire to live two different lives which can't be compatible with each other: life as Marty, and life as Null... perhaps much like how you have two bodies that can't be compatible with each other.

I mean, I thought I knew what my purpose was when I was reborn as Null. In a way, I thought I was brought back to life by pure frustrations of an unseen force having everything going wrong for them alone, and I thought my purpose was to act accordingly for that force, with my new life as Null. I thought I needed to channel that vengeance against the powerful spirit that murdered me for seemingly no reason by selfishly stealing the souls of mortals and gods for myself.

but... As Null kept devouring souls to become strong enough to take down the powers that be as an act as vengeance for Marty's untimely death, Null always had a small voice of Marty which was quietly pleading desperately for Null to stop and give up. And as the devouring continued, Marty's pleas was growing louder with each life that Null devoured, to the point where it was almost as if the voices of Marty was coming out of the mouth of the people and gods Null was devouring pleading for Null to spare their lives, much like how Marty was pleading to the spirit not to kill him, an echo of the past. "Please stop, I'm begging you... this isn't right, I don't understand why you're doing this to me. I didn't mean to do anything wrong." That is all Null can hear from Marty. That echo of the past of what Marty pleaded with the Spirit was being repeated, but the plea was directed to Null this time. Each death Null was taking always reminded him of Marty, except for some reason, Null's memories wasn't seen in Marty's point of view anymore, but in the point of view of the spirit who killed him whenever Null devoured a soul to gain power.

My desire to live as both Null and Marty all accumulated to finally destroying my body in the end when my memories of Marty was being erased during that battle against Laura, with each ghost getting killed. I couldn't leave my life as Marty behind as I would lose my memory as to why I became Null in the first place to get vengeance on that spirit, and I couldn't leave my life as Null behind as I'd be too weak to defend myself from the dangers that spirit brought to our world, and all the people that hated me. In the end, my desire to take vengeance with the body as Null, and my want to cling to the past with my body as Marty finally broke apart those incompatible bodies and I ended up as a mixed puddle of misunderstandings of my own actions and not know who I wanted to be.

I think even though I initially didn't want to think so because of my pride... maybe the truth is... I do actually understand how you feel about having two different incompatible selves, Spirit Contaminator. My life and memories as Marty and My life and memories as Null just can't coexist with each other, both of which I felt were too valuable to leave behind and can't live without, and in the end, it destroyed me... And I... I think it is still destroying me. Much like how you feel your two different bodies can't live with each other and you feel it is tearing itself apart like mine did. It is the scariest feeling, not knowing who we are supposed to be and where we belong and for what purpose...

...I mean, if I really have to leave one life behind, which should I choose to keep, and which should I choose to stay to live a better life? Should I keep both? And will it even matter if the destiny Happy said was true about me falling apart despite what life I choose?

Maybe despite my actions, that is why you didn't wish for my death while everyone else did. Because you saw that connection you and I share: both of us having two lives that just can't be compatible with each other which is destroying us, with myself already being destroyed because I just couldn't leave one life behind... And because of who we are and our history, we just can't fit normally with society...
Spirit Contaminator, Let me ask, While I can't decide which part of myself to keep and which part of myself to leave behind, Null or Marty... if you had to choose, do you know which part of your body you would keep and which you would leave behind? or are you unsure which body to keep like I was struggling to decide which part of myself to keep?

Spirit Contaminator, I don't know if I was able to comfort you with telling you what I understand what I have in common with you, but I think that understanding of you and I having two lives or two different bodies being incompatible can give us both clarity of knowing how we both feel.
No. 946353 ID: f7ff14
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No. 946414 ID: f6c741

*puts the fish in a glass of water*

So, how can we find you a new purpose?
No. 946663 ID: e51896

...Sorry... I didn't mean to make you cry. Flint and I am supposed to be comforting you, but I guess I can't. But maybe it's like you said, doing this is probably bad for your psyche, and it is probably best to rip that bandage off now and face reality. not just you, but me too...

Good and bad experiences from the past can mold what type of person someone can be.
But dwelling on the bad aspects of the past too much causes life and their joyful moments to just pass us by without realizing it...I learned that the hard way when I was too focused on dwelling on my previous life and past woes with thoughts of vengeance that I just didn't pay attention to where I was heading in the present that it destroyed my body. I didn't take the patience to live in the now when I was too focused on the then.

Right now, this moment is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You said that your pet is hurt from your incompetence. Yet you're still not acting because your grieving over past actions and experiences of living in isolation instead of trying to save it.
But you should know that it is still not too late to save your pet's life, just as it's not too late to get a hold of the situation you are in. instead of being sorrowful over the past, You just need to take the first step to try to focus on what is happening in the present and save the poor little fish's life.
And you don't have to take the first step to take action alone. I know change is a scary concept for you, but you have friends like Flint, Felafaf, Ember and Anubis to help give you aspiration. And you have me as well to help you through it.

Change is difficult, but if talking about the past while wishing for things to be better brings too much pain, then let's all try to take baby steps first to let go of the past and change ourselves and find aspiration in our lives by starting with this small little aspiration: saving the little fish's life together. Agreed?

It's not too late to save Daylight the fish, it's not too late to change yourself.
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No. 946682 ID: f6c741

They won’t bring him out unless they have to. And at that point they would be getting desperate.

What this is, is isolation. Keeping you from seeing anyone or anything because they are getting ready to question you. If you’re lucky they will try to cut you a deal. If you’re unlucky they will use more heavy-handed tactics to get you to talk.
No. 946733 ID: 8b660e

*sees she's still trying to be like Essence*
No. 946759 ID: e51896



No. 946760 ID: e51896

Well, I remember Dreamwalker in another time was chained up when he was imprisoned in a torture room, with the chains keeping him from using his magic. You seem to be just in a prison, with a bed no less to relax in (despite it being rough). You are not chained up like he is. If they had the intention to kill you, they would have put you in a worse prison like the one Dreamwalker was in. I don't think shooting will be involved unless absolutely necessary when meeting with Lorence...

I think if they wanted you to suffer before the interrogation, they would have chained you up like Dreamwalker was. This prison seems less harsh in comparison, so perhaps I agree, they are going to try to cut a deal... Lets just wait it out.
No. 947470 ID: f7ff14
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No. 947484 ID: e51896

Are you being haunted by ghost, Ana? Well, at least Wicker Kid only seems to be observing you out of boredom, and I think when he said playthrough, he probably means this time cycle we're in if he sees each cycle as a playthrough in a video game. But maybe we should warn him that he might be a little too late to watch our journey since our journey may come to an end soon once Lorence shows up? I mean, I'm not sure what might happen when Lorence shows up to decide our fate.

I did have one dumb idea Ana, what if you were to draw that one ash tree skull symbol again here and fall asleep like you did back at home? Keep in mind that I don't think it will help you escape at all since it is more of an out of body experience, but it's more of doing it out of mere curiosity if anything, I mean it isn't like we can do anything else besides look out the window to get an idea where we are, and wait for Lorence to decide our fate... the only thing is, I don't see anything we can draw with unless you find a pebble and use that to scratch the drawing on the wall...

But before we decide whether to do that or not, I think we should mainly focus on learning more about Wicker Kid and why he is here, especially if he is going to stick around with us. For starters, I am interested in wondering what Wicker Kid finds confusing in this "playthrough"? I thought it was obvious: we lost a bunch of our friends during a hostage situation not knowing their fate, got taken advantage of while we were trying to do the right thing, reached a breaking point after all the anguish you faced to the point we found it difficult to trust others, got betrayed, and became imprisoned waiting for Lorence to decide our fate. I wonder what does he find confusing?
No. 947495 ID: 548a98

I don’t necessarily think the term “play through” is correct for this case either. It implies the same person is behind each game. I consider myself my own person with my own beliefs and morals. So maybe “new player” would be more appropriate?
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No. 947549 ID: 548a98

Well change is neither benevolent nor malevolent. It makes sense you see us as opposites. What we all want is for progress to occur. But I guess to us, Lorence represents the opposite of progress, Stagnancy and rigidity, nothing changing except in small minute details that stack the deck in his favor. If the game never changes he can never lose.
No. 947582 ID: e51896

I don't know, as far as end goals go, I think it's something to do with somehow ending up opposing Root and his followers in some way, whether we intend to (like Scarred Ana) or not (like me, fortune Ana) just to survive, which forces Lorence's hand to try to stop us.
It doesn't help that the Ash Tree somewhat urged us from the very beginning to take that route to try to stop Root in the first place when there are actually arguably other bigger threats out there like Absolution Prime, since Absolution Prime betrayed one of us versions of Ana in her cycle...

Hey Ana, while your talking to Wicker Kid, can you do me a favor and look out the window, just to get a feel of the location we might be in, or is pitch blackness the only thing out there?
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No. 947749 ID: 548a98

You’ve seen every run...???

This is too good of an opportunity to pass. Having him on our side would basically increase our chances.

But Ana? Can you ask him one question for me? Why did my baby have to die...?
No. 947751 ID: e51896

Nothing but a black void, Ana? I wonder if that means you're not in the waking world at the moment and instead dreaming again having another out of body body experience. multiple times you were in something like a black void, it was in a dream like area. If so, this cell might just be not only a literal representation, but a metaphorical representation of the situation we're in being now stuck in a dark path with no escape

to answer his question of him wanting to tag along, the only appropriate response I can think of is: "whatever, do what you want, I don't even care what happens anymore. Just tired."

The only questions I have for him is: what is the point on even continuing on or caring at this point if it is now impossible to get any sort of happy ending and we're now just destined to fail in a bad ending or dead end, despite doing our absolute best to do the right thing. (Wow, sorry if that sounded depressingly nihilistic, wasn't my intention)

And also: since Wicker kid see's these lives a a different playthrough, ask if there ever been a moment when this game has been modded, or even hacked by someone in some way? I mean, all games are capable of being "hacked"

(I only want you to ask Wicker Kid that because I suspect there might be "hackers" in this "playthrough" that screwed us over big time*is thinking of Essence and Happy*)
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No. 947771 ID: 8b660e

It was....

Absolution.... not Root.... this whole time....

*goes incredibly silent*
No. 947806 ID: e51896

*imagines Essence after hearing the Smiling Forever ending, then imagines Happy after hearing the Happy Forever ending*

Scarred? you alright? hello?
umm..... Ana, I think Scarred stopped working after finding out Absolution Prime killed her child, not Root.

As far as this decision goes... All I can say is that if our end fate is now guaranteed to be doomed, then maybe until that time comes, the only thing we can try to do is maybe at least try to give the next Anas in future cycles a little bit of a better chance and life in some way during this current cycle until we reached our doomed fate...

Wait, hold up, Wicker Kid said that Essence and us voices are glitches that he isn't sure can be patched out, but... as it turned out: Scarred Ana "debugged" Essence, "patched" her out of the "game". In other words, Scarred killed Essence. So... perhaps Ana, Scarred, and I should finish what we started and become debuggers for this world until Ana's doomed fate comes? That way, those glitches won't be present in future cycles to influence things in certain directions?

I mean, seeing as we are doomed to fail, maybe at the very least thinking in game terms, we can act as debuggers to patch out as many of the glitches that we can that are influencing the game/time cycle, thus updating this universe to 2.0 or something for future cycles. Perhaps maybe then, future cycles might have slightly different and maybe better outcomes for future Anas' cycles. Seeing as Scarred killed Essence, that is proof that this goal can be achieved before Ana's doomed fate, if difficult.

The thing is, this will also probably be a suicide mission for Scarred and I as us voices are also glitches that influence this world in Wicker Kid's eyes, and it is probably going to be a morally gray goal to accomplish as some glitches might actually be good people just as some glitches are bad people, and this will also mean we will have to stop being pacifists in order to take on the role of debuggers and upgrade this universe... hmmmmm... What do you think, Ana and Scarred?

I would tell Wicker Kid: we'll keep going, but we're not keeping our hopes up anymore, keeping expectations low, and staying unenthusiastic about everything.

but also say to Wicker Kid: Besides Essence and the voices, who and what else is considered a "glitch"? do you, Wicker Kid, have a list of "bugs" that needs to be "patched out"? we're asking because as it turns out it is actually possible to "patch out" those influencing "glitches", as one of the voices killed Essence, and we're debating whether or not to patch out as many of those "glitches" as possible to "update" the "game" for future cycles until our doomed fate comes.

Because otherwise, I'm not sure what other goals that is possible to accomplish at this point.
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No. 948125 ID: e51896

You know, Ana, I've come to the realization that when your time of death inevitably comes, AJ is going to perish along with you as well. I don't think we should bring AJ into this going forward knowing what is to come, which means we'll have to find someway for AJ to carry on without us, which means finding someone else to take care of him who isn't related to Absolution Prime in some way... hmmm...

Hey, I know this idea sounds crazy, but seeing as Lorence is someone who travels from cycle to cycle at the end of each one, and AJ is a god who gains power very quickly as time passes... what if we ask Lorence to take care of AJ in our place? AJ is a god who gains his powers as time goes on, and if he follows Lorence around from cycle to cycle, he might just be strong enough to hold his own against Prime and perhaps take Prime's place. I mean, I know that Lorence is working with a murderous cult, but as it stands, Lorence is AJ's best bet to survive as he is the only person that can travel from cycle to cycle, and it might give AJ a chance to make some kind of difference for the future cycles, and might even help change Lorence's personality for the better giving his life of living in a repeating cycle meaning. Maybe we should even make a deal where in return for AJ, Lorence will treat and help the future Ana's better in some way?

Plus, letting Lorence take care of AJ can also act as a great way to get back at Absolution Prime for what he did to your child, Scarred.

Ana, for right now before we ask this favor for Lorence, it might be best to get comfortable for this moment. To start, simply sit down, or even lay down on the prison bed to get comfortable and show Lorence you mean no harm, just give a simple:
"ok... I'm ready to talk. And afterwards, I have a very important request to ask you as well if you wish to hear it... please."
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*breathing very heavily*

Be quiet. I don’t just want to get back at Prime.

I want him dead, more than anything in this universe. I want vengeance. I want him too look at me in fear for what he’s done. I want him to bleed. I want him to hurt. I want him to suffer. I want him to spend eternity in mortal agony, unable to die and in constant pain.

You don’t know what I want, Fortune. And I refuse to give an inch to this monster who thinks he is above us. You would give him the powers of a god? He who kills regardless of consequences? Nothing matters to him, only his routine and his way of life. The very thought of giving up that kind of power sickens me. And the fact you thought it a good idea... If I were able I’d slap you for a fool.

Talk with him if you want. But I will give him nothing, except his own ideals back to him showing them as nothing but hypocrisy and garbage.
No. 948208 ID: e51896

Sorry, but...

Scarred... I still stand by my decision. I know it sounds weird, but in my heart, I just believe that It is something that has to be done, like it or not.

You say you want Absolution Prime dead, but as it stands, it is impossible to do that, at least not in this cycle considering everything.
If you truly want Prime dead, the only way this world would perhaps stand a chance against him is with AJ, but AJ is right now too weak. Even if he were to wait until the end of this cycle to mature and get stronger, he will still be like a mosquito in comparison to Prime. You really have no idea just what we'd be up against if anyone were to face him in this cycle.
The only way AJ can stand a slight chance is if he secretly survives and jumps through many many cycles, and as it stands, Lorence is the only person we know who is able to sneak through so many cycles and miraculously stay alive all this time. He is the only chance I know that may possibly let AJ grow and mature until AJ is ready to combat Prime in the far far future in another distant cycle, and take Primes place.
And besides, even if Lorence only see's AJ as a weapon, which I doubt, his girlfriend Felafaf will set Lorence straight. I know she will... and who knows, she may even act as a nanny, or maybe even a mother to AJ. And if she acts as a mother to him, you'll bet she'll do what she can to try to get Lorence to treat AJ like a son, maybe even soften to other people as a result... but who knows?


I only ask, Scarred, that you trust me on this idea. Please.

But... Right now though, we are getting way too ahead of ourselves with this idea. For now, we should mainly focus on seeing what Lorence wants to ask us. Afterwards, we'll decide on whether to ask lorence about AJ or not, considering I think we are in for a very insightful conversation.
No. 948211 ID: 8b660e

I would never give him anything. Let alone the son of a god.

Lorence is no better than Prime. Do they both kill people to keep their status quo? Do they think themselves above the consequences? You can stand behind your decisions and your logic all you want. Make all the long winded speeches your mouth can make. Doesn’t change the fact that your idea could potentially kill off millions of lives, regardless of the consequences and what someone like Lorence could do to influence AJ. Do you remember that alternate time line? AJ and WC changed to reflect the nature of that Ana. Do you honestly want to give him up to someone like him?

Damn you then.
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No. 948308 ID: 8b660e

His choice huh? And really, he just wanted to talk huh? Guess those two gunshots were just punctuation then. Could've fooled me.

He's keeping you alive for something. Otherwise he'd of just shot you and had done with it. Is he gonna share or what?
No. 948519 ID: e51896

...Lorence sitting on a chair, while you Ana is sitting on a seat that can also be laid down on... wait, I just realized, is this a setup for psychological therapy? If so... hey Ana, it might be difficult given how the bench looks, but pretend that the bench you are sitting on is a comfy couch. And if you don't mind... I think I'd like to sit next to you, even though you can't see me doing that. Scooch over please, Ana. *sits next to Ana* Don't worry, you can still lay down where I am sitting if you need to Ana, since I'm not corporeal

And Ana, I notice just now that tears were falling only from your right eye where AJ is and not your left eye, and you even mentioned you are losing ability to show emotion... therefore, I don't think those were your tears, those were AJ's emotional tears.

Absolution Junior, you don't have to speak if you don't want to, but I want to let you know if you can hear me is: you are going to be alright. None of what happened to Ana and us was your fault. it is alright to cry AJ, as it shows you have humanity in yourself despite being a god, but just remember you are going to be alright. And because you are showing emotion for Ana, it gives me relief that you will be able to help Lorence himself gain back some of his morals and meaning in his life if he agrees to adobt you from Ana. And with those emotions, I know you will have a grasp on what humanity is to potentially become a better god to care for this world and humanity when you take the place of Absolution Prime, and even save Ana in future time cycles...

And Scarred, listen closely: I apologize but, I'm still following my heart with what I believe is the right thing to do now no matter what, which is salvaging what we can left in Ana's cycle when everything else is ruined. And the most important one to salvage next to Ana's life before her end is Absolution Junior. I refuse to let AJ perish along with Ana's eventual fate, and the only way for him to survive and grow now is if I can convince Lorence to keep AJ secret, and get AJ stronger in future cycles to eventually match up against the demon Absolution Prime.
And I think the only way I can convince you to take my side and agree with my choice, Scarred, is if I prove to you that Lorence is not the monster you make him out to be, and everything we thought we knew about Lorence was all a result of misunderstandings and misconceptions from not seeing things from his perspective. I'll show you that he is also human like Ana is. Besides, if he truly is a monster who kills without regards of consequences, he would of killed Ana by now and not be wrestling with this dilemma he has. If he didn't have feelings, he would not of dated Felafaf. There is more to Lorence we're not seeing, and I'm going to reveal those to you.

And even if Lorence is a monster, I believe AJ can free Lorence from his sins and help him change for the better by giving Lorence the responsibility to take care of AJ not as a weapon, but as a son. This isn't just about saving AJ, but saving Lorence's humanity as well, Scarred.

Mainly, I'm begging you now to believe in me on my choice, Scarred, like I have believed so much in your choices even though I despised some of them that even lead us to here, like threatening Rosalia with a thumbs up, or hurting Logan's daughter thinking it was Essence, or choosing not to go back to the alternate timeline to name a couple.
If you believe in me, then come here, and sit next to Ana and I on this therapy prison bench couch as we'll appreciate the company, and relax your anger. Let me take action for this scenario this time like I have let you take action for previous scenarios the other times. I am going to clear the air between us and Lorence and prove to you that Lorence is actually a good person. If you don't want to believe in me, you can remain standing. I won't take offense, but I'm going to do what it takes to save AJ's life no matter what.
No. 948521 ID: e51896

Sorry Ana, to start, I would tell Lorence this: "Before you decide our fate, maybe it'll help your choice if we clear the air between us. As of now, I only want nothing more than to seek out closure to unanswered questions we may have of both of us to clear up doubts we have. I've come to realize that there have been a lot of misunderstandings and misconceptions we have about you and misunderstandings you've had about us that lead us to our doomed fate, and I want to at least clear those misunderstandings up by asking you questions, and letting you ask us questions before you decide our end fate. I even have a very important request for you afterwards."

if he agrees, then we will need to address two important things before we can truly start discussions: Dervan and the Conductor. We should let Lorence know that Dervan uses those business cards to spy on people just in case Dervan is trying to spy on this conversation if Lorence doesn't know already know about Dervan's spying. This is hopefully to gain a little bit of Lorence's trust.
And we need to confess that we were looking into the past because if we end up forming a truce with Lorence, the conductor could waltz right in to ruin that truce by telling Lorence what we were doing, ruining everything. It's better if Lorence heard us confess from our mouths instead of it being revealed through the Conductor's mouth.

First ask Lorence "Before we start, are you aware that Dervan not only uses those business cards to communicate and use as portals and transportation, but also to secretly uses those cards to spy and listen in on people who own those business cards?"

Afterwards, tell Lorence "I also have a confession: I went to look into the past on how the fog got started back when I thought I knew what I was supposed to be doing. But after the voices found out the dire consequences, and started learning more about the world, we decided to stop looking further, only getting up to the point a little after one of the kids died and where the two kids were driving in a vehicle. Please forgive me, but I wanted you to hear it from me, and not from the Conductor"

After we tell him those, then we can truly start asking Lorence questions and let Lorence ask us questions to clear up misunderstandings.
No. 948523 ID: 8b660e

That’s cute.

If you despised my actions so much, why didn’t you stop me? You had the power to leap forward and stop me anytime you wanted when I swung my fist at Logan’s daughter, but you didn’t. You also forget most of those weren’t even my fault to begin with. Essence tricked me, tricked us in both the cases of that doomed timeline and when I struck Logan’s daughter. Don’t you dare point the finger at me when you had the power to stop me yourself or when things were behind our control.

Also you talk as though I didn’t view AJ as son, as a person. Have you not seen my right eye? Honestly, you even bothered to look? Where do you think those markings came from? I’m speaking from experience. He is a person and just like you claim, I would protect him with everything I have to give. He is not Absolution Prime, but I will not see him given into the hands of someone who is no better than him.

So, please, convince me. No, really I want you to try and convince me. How someone can retain their humanity when they live for a cult’s ideals where the main idea is “sacrifice your humanity?” Who has killed him self off numerous times to take the place of each Lorence. Who even the pompous Ash Kid over there calls him “the never changing.”
No. 948565 ID: e51896

I thought their ideology was "sacrifice your mortality" not "sacrifice your humanity". For context, Dreamwalker is an immortal god, and he seems pretty close to the concept of humanity despite being immortal, even choosing to be a part of Laura... I miss him already, but he needs to stay with Laura. I wonder how they are now

I didn't stop you those times because sometimes, your actions can be very quick and unexpected that it becomes too late to even discuss your actions or stop you before I can even react, like when you threw those bombs at Essence without asking me first before I even got the chance to make a plan with what to do with those bombs during the battle.
And I didn't even knew at that time you would throw a punch at Logan's daughter. I chose the option to ask questions when Essence gave the option to either hurt her or do something else, and I thought you would choose that same option id did, but instead you unexpectedly threw a sucker punch thinking Logan's daughter was Essence. And when you did, it was already too late to even stop you because it was so quick and unexpected.
Other times, I was just too cowardly to speak out to stop you because I worry that you would outright scream and threaten me for thinking out an idea you hated, or for trying to stop you from doing something I didn't like and as a result you might drop your respect for me and not want to be my partner anymore. For that, I apologize for being cowardly back then, But to make up for it this time, I've decided not to be a coward and stand firm for what I believe is the right thing so we don't make another regretful decision. I'm making this decision as your friend, not your opponent, "tough love" as they call it.

That said, while I'm sad you are not sitting next to Ana and I like I asked as I was hoping you would believe and have faith in me, I appreciate that you are at least still giving me the chance to show you that there is more to Lorence that you're not seeing, and giving me the chance to try to convince you the choice I want is the right thing.


and Scarred, I want to apologize if I implied that you didn't see AJ as your son. That wasn't what I meant at all. I believe you are a great mother for him. Probably the best damn mother. But I know that eventually, a mother bird has to let her son fly off to serve their purpose, and I think it is AJ's time to be sent off to live through future cycles and grow up or else the nest will be too small for him to survive in.

(inner thoughts: I don't know if it is true or not if Lorence himself can't change, but I might have to see if we can use that tarot vision to see Lorence's tarot card and see if at least his tarot carded fate can be changed. We haven't used that in a while. I was hoping we wouldn't use it as I hate using magic after all that happened after using any sort of magic, but maybe Felafaf was preparing us for this moment? I don't know if we should use it or not... lets see how things go with this conversation between Logan and Ana goes with the things I wanted Ana to say...)
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No. 948599 ID: efa420

*looks at Lorence and looks back to Fortune.*

... Oh. Shocking.

Well go on, you’re running this show aren’t you?
No. 948646 ID: e51896

Well well... this is very important to note: did you hear what Lorence said there? he said: "You have no idea what other things that is threatening existence, Andrew Goodwill isn't the only threat that is trying to become part of this world"... so this means that even Lorence himself see's the potential threat to existence that Andrew Goodwill would cause.

that is common ground that we just found with Lorence and us. Both us voices, and Lorence sees Absolution Prime, and as we just found out now, Andrew Goodwill as a threat to humanity. These are common threats he see's that we ourselves see as well even if Lorence's way of doing things is much more extreme.
And all this time we all thought that he was trying to summon Andrew and cause an end to existence like Cera and Root wanted. Lorence is well aware of the potential dangers Andrew could cause and wants to prevent that.

Ana, I would tell Lorence: "I never expected you to feel sorry for me, I already accepted my fate and was even contemplating sacrificing myself. I just wish I could have known so much earlier you saw Andrew as a threat like I do and have known much earlier that Absolution Prime was dangerous to humanity like you do. If I'd known, I could of helped you in some way... But with what little time left I have before you kill me, I want to help you now considering what we learned just now, whether you accept the help or not. I just want to do the right thing before whatever happens to me"

To show we meant what we said, tell Lorence, like I wanted you to earlier, about how Dervan uses those business cards to spy and listen in on people, like the business card Lorence has now. Dervan could have be spying on him this whole time.
The reason why I want you to do this Ana is because Lorence admitted he is paranoid, and telling him about Dervan's spying might be important for him to know if we are to form any kind of truce.

Also, I still think we need to confess about looking into the past before the Conductor himself tells Lorence himself and ruins that trust between Lorence and us that is trying to be built. Better to rip off that band-aid now and tell Lorence ourselves before he hears it from the Conductor.
No. 948653 ID: 8b660e


So, are just going to ignore the fact that he also just admitted he was the one who sent Stitch to kill us in the shop and who also maimed and possibly killed Blacky? It’s also kind of messed up when we get down to it. Lorence even got Jack the Shopkeeper as a curator now.
No. 948668 ID: e51896

If we may, I think from this point it is for the best that we should have this debate elsewhere as to not further frustrate Ana while she is focused on having a civil discussion with Lorence. https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/107070.html Sorry to frustrate you Ana, we'll take this debate elsewhere, but we are not leaving you either. We'll still be watching over and giving you suggestions.

but the short version as to explain about that incident with Stitch, it is all about the perspective of what Lorence saw in relationship to what he knew, and what was going on, such as Logan being in the same location as Ana, and whom exactly Logan works for (Prime).
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No. 948836 ID: e51896

Ana, tell Lorence "I found out too late what was going on around us in this world, and I understand what you did to my friends and me was an act of the ends justifying the means from the knowledge from previous cycles..."

"...But Lorence... with your actions of sending Stitch at me or threatening my friends, you and Root still deeply hurt and traumatized me, even to the point of us getting too scared to think logically and act in impulse trying to defend ourselves, forcing us to make bad decisions and lead us to this point of no return...

"You're one of the many people who broke me the most, Lorence, And even though I am doomed now, and you may see your actions as just, I want to know if you feel any kind remorse for your actions. After everything you did to hurt me, I just want to hear you apologize for what you did to me."

If Lorence thinks he is above an apology, Ana, tell him "look at your watch you stole from that house. it is a memento of your wife that clings you to your humanity and remember your good morals. Your wife was strong enough to apologize to you for her unforgivable actions, and you were strong enough to forgive her. I am strong enough to forgive you, but I first need to know you are strong enough to apologize. Not just to me, but to yourself."
No. 948837 ID: 8b660e


*silently watches Lorence.*
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No. 949100 ID: 89ee1a

*deep sigh. And she takes a seat on the bunk.*
No. 949241 ID: e51896

Alright, I forgive Lorence. Ana, can you forgive Lorence?

Now then, lets see what Lorence want to do or say before we decide about aj.
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No. 949396 ID: e51896

"Umm... hmm. I'm not sure if I should say this since Root stated he wanted to keep this fact a secret, but I think it has to do with how my voices had once tried to save Root before way back when he was still in a wheelchair with muscular dystrophy when Delilah was holding him over a flight of stairs threatening his life to let go. Derrick was there too to try to save him."

"Basically, Root mentioned once to Derrick that his life was a combination of miserable events, and before my voices and Derrick tried to save his life, he hated the world and its cruelty. but Derrick and my voices' act of trying to rescue him gave compassion to his perspective and made him want to be better."

"Maybe Root saw that he and I had a lot in common, both of us stuck in a series of miserable events, both of us having voices that guide us, both of us having the entire populace act cold towards us, all that jazz."
No. 949397 ID: efa420

Don’t forget he is also probably in love with you... or at least the idea of you... gross.
No. 949400 ID: f7ff14
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No. 949413 ID: e51896

Fuck it, I agree. lets do it. I mean, if it is the only way to save AJ...
No. 949417 ID: efa420

... alright... I’ll go with you to wherever this other place is. But then I’m coming back here, I’m not staying there.
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No. 949468 ID: 8b660e

gods damn it all Fortune...

for me, it’s easy. Vengence.
No. 949871 ID: e51896

Personally I'd rather not stay, I have no desire for vengeance, just at this point want Ana safe.

I don't know, Ana. I think at this point, telling the truth about AJ might be for the best with all things going on, especially with finding out Prime is getting an upper hand in these cycle's war and getting stronger still. If anything, we might be able to balance things out... but I'm not sure... We can only hope for the best.

For my answer for Lorence, I want to tell him: we’ve sworn not to tell anyone about AJ , not because of AJ himself, but rather other people who would take an interest in him, and if those people get a hold of him, then it spells doom for the world. We only ask AJ can leave with us and live a better life and prevent being corrupted by this world.

I think Lorence will know what kind of creature AJ is after that statement...

if he asks something along the lines of why we wouldn't leave with AJ to where Dervan is in the first place, tell him It's partly because we were nervous about taking Dervan's offer at first, as we didn't know how he would try to use AJ at all once we go to him and he finds out.
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No. 950006 ID: 8b660e

*seems to be really deep in thought and doesn't answer*
No. 950118 ID: e51896

Nothing can stop you now Ana. Use the card like you wanted in the first place.
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No. 950161 ID: 8b660e

*from outside the door to the prison cells*
No. 950162 ID: 8b660e

*takes a deep breath*
So... what do we do then...?

What the hell? What is going on out there?
No. 950227 ID: e51896

We already knew about Ana's soul being trapped here, and frankly I don't think I even care about that anymore especially since we now can't free Ana's soul in this cycle since Wicker Kid himself said the only paths we can take now are dead ends and death if we stay in this world.

In fact, We can ask the same question they asked right back at them but a little differently: why bother trying to accomplish anything in this dimension if the only path is death and dead ends and we can't free our souls anyway?

no offense, but I'm not convinced by Wicker Kid's argument to stay. He's going to need to try a better way to convince us.
Currently, I still think we should believe in the heart of the card and escape with Dervan before Ana loses another hand.
No. 950235 ID: a37bff

I’m not so sure if this is a convincing argument, but it’s what I believe.

Wicker Kid has called us “Ana the Everchanging.” Some choices we make have the same outcomes, some have different. And it’s those changes that make us who we are in this cycle.

Every argument I’ve heard implies that every road is already planned out. That the causality of choices means we have no real choice at all. I’ve never once believed that. If every road just lead us back here, well then we need a new road out of here, and we’ll need to be ones to make it.
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No. 950308 ID: 8b660e

Your guess is as good as mine on that one chief.

But listen, I’m telling you why you can’t kill her right now okay? Because she’s a key witness in the trial of Godfrey, if you kill her now you would be obstructing justice. Also and this just my own thoughts here but she also owns Godfrey a debt now. I only know as much as the cross ash knights have told me but but by the sound of things she is now indebted to them to save her life. Think about it, you have the opportunity to keep someone you obviously perceive as a threat under almost constant surveillance. And besides couldn’t you also use this as a test of loyalty to Godfrey and the Cross Ash as well? It kills two birds with one stone. I see it as saving her life, you might see it as.... I don’t know just getting things done more effeciently?
No. 950327 ID: 8b660e

It feels like giving up.. Tell him whatever you want... But let me ask him this.

"What happens to my voices? Can they stay behind? and if not, what will happen to them?"
No. 950331 ID: c7d046

Also, and this is just my own bargaining chip, mostly because I don’t want anyone else to die.

If you save her life, i will burn the painting of those religious monsters. Shit I’ll even give you the matches to do it.
No. 950367 ID: e51896

>Do you honestly think that you will find your happy ending there
no we won't, but it is a lot better than the other endings that will lead to dead ends, bad ends, and Ana's inevitable death. a happy ending is something Ana will not go into once she leaves. It's a bittersweet one. Very bitter yeah, but still sweet.

>Existing every day in that different dimension is going to affect you, like being somewhere where you don't belong and constantly searching for your place in it. That feeling will never leave you
Robbit, or the Mad Creator is a counter argument. He left both his world, and his own world that he created and never looked back. He seemed to have been doing fine.
And I'd argue this dimension Ana's in now is also a place she no longer belongs in, as nobody wants her here and would rather see her dead, and there is also no longer somewhere for her to find a place if she stays here as well.
Besides, wouldn't living with the feeling she doesn't belong is a lot better than living in constant fear and suffering until a brutal death arrives?

As for Dervan, it would be funny if you'd just jump in right now in the portal without explaining yourself and without context.
But yeah, might as well explain to Dervan that you're leaving.

...unless you want to just jump in? I'll leave the decision to explain yourself or just jump in to you Ana.

We're not taking no for an answer.
No. 950372 ID: c7d046

No don’t just jump in, Dervan might take it as a threat if we do that.

Ana, let me ask you something before you do. What is important to you?
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No. 950404 ID: 2e9fd7

Alright, i'll take it. And the reason I offered to destroy them is because you said they were dangerous. I'll try not to be long. If anything happens though i'll let you know.

*goes insides*

Wow! It's you! You're Ana! So glad to finally meet you!
No. 950405 ID: 2e9fd7

Unanimously... shit...

what the- who's this?
No. 950406 ID: 2e9fd7

Wait, this is that anthony guy! The guy who was a spirit parasite that other timeline. What is he doing here?
No. 950495 ID: e51896

I am all for Ana leaving, as it was her choice in the first place to escape. Ana very rarely makes a choice for herself, and I'm glad she is making decisions for herself instead of asking us to choose this time. I want to support Ana to make her own choices.

But I suppose at the moment Ana and Scarred is busy talking to Anthony the person we met when we were at Cera's meeting, I guess we have to wait a little until our final decision...

In the meantime, there is something important I want to talk about: I'm am not concerned about Wicker Kid being able to hear us voices. What I'm concerned about is the fact that Wicker Kid is well aware of who the Mad Creator is, Or rather, more specifically, I'm concerned over Wicker Kid's reaction when I mentioned the Mad Creator's name.

To answer your question Wicker Kid, I only brought up The Mad Creator in the conversation to show as an example of someone who left his universe to live his life away from his fate and living decently as a counter argument to your argument of wanting Ana to stay. But that is besides the point.

What I'm more interested in is asking about your reaction when I mentioned the Mad Creator, Wicker Kid. Why did your eyes bulged like you were shocked or maybe with fear when I brought the Mad Creator up? Your reaction was big enough to even cause you to slip up and reveal that you could hear us voices all along. Is there something about the Mad Creator that you are keeping from us? What is it?

I think you should know right now, that the Mad Creator was arrested earlier and brought in for questioning over his suspicious and potentially dangerous actions in this universe. I'm thinking by your reaction to hearing me mention the Mad Creator's name, it may have reminded you of how you perhaps heard or even witnessed him first hand doing some things that are forbidden in this universe? hmmm...

Dervan, your opinion please, what do you think of Wicker Kid's reaction? Do you think he might know something that could be useful in regards to the Mad Creator's arrest?

(inner thoughts: Is Dervan still looking for demons? it's vague, but I remember something about a person owning a bicycle that was possessed by a demon or something... It's foggy, but I have a memory of it...)
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Well, mostly I draw people I see in my dreams. A big eyeball god guy said he was ancestor and it’s from him I get this power. It’s pretty much random who I see though, even the event itself sometimes it’s things that have happened, or are happening, or somethings that could be.

*pulls out a sketchbook and begins to draw*

But recently I found that certain people were using my drawings to hurt others.

*turns back to the door and sneers*

But recently the realized that I have a gift and I can help a lot of people with it, in fact it was you who inspired me to do so. A lot of the events I see you are the focal point, and well I guess you can you’re my hero. You showed me that you always strive to do good and do the right things for others. It really is something to be admired.

And that’s why I want a chance to save you, because without realizing it, you and your voices, yes I know about them, you guys saved me. And I owe you a debt. I figure that’s Dervan right? I don’t know who the guy is with branches sticking out of his head is though. But I’ve dreamt of Dervan, and Triumphant, and Daro before. So I know them, at least, somewhat.

Anyway, here’s what I wanted to propose. See you’re here in the bunker city as a prisoner, but the thing is they let you go if you join them. A lot of people here are more servants of circumstances than anything. But you, you can choose who to serve. And I’m come with an idea for it too.

Join Godfrey and the Cross Ash Knights. Say you owe him a debt for saving your life earlier and you would join him as payment. Plus if you did that you would also be saving Godfrey too! But if you died now, Lorence would be in even more deep crap than he already is. As your death by his hands is an obstruction of justice in the case of Godfrey.

The way I see it now this is one where everyone wins in someway. If you agree I can get the cross ash down here and they will get you out of here.

That’s why I’m here now, please let me save you the way you saved me.

*tears out the page.*
Oh by the way Dervan this is for you
No. 950554 ID: ba3f1d

*is almost shocked into silence.*
No. 950689 ID: e51896

My questions are for Wicker Kid: Is the Mad Creator and Andrew closely connected then? It can't be a coincidence that Andrew being stuck here and the Mad Creator being born is the same day. Also, why are you so concerned about Ana leaving when you were so perfectly fine with incinerating her to ash and ending her life earlier.
And my question for Dervan: when you first gave us your card, you said we can bring up to 10 people with us. Is that still on the table? because maybe we can take Laura, Dreamwalker, and Anthony with us, that is if they want to come with us...

Anyway, in my opinion, Ana worked her hardest to get this second chance to escape this world. And I know Ana wants more than anything to leave right now, and I don't want to deny her of her chance and her right to leave as this is her choice, not ours. I want to support her making decisions for herself. I just don't think Ana wants to be a soldier or a barbarian in this world at this point. Really, I think she is no longer in any condition to be any kind of hero both physically and mentally even if she wanted to. She has been abused so much that it messed up her hand, and her mental state and perspective. I think she just wants nothing more than to not be a part of the mayhem and get away from the cruelty of others and just live in peace.

And sadly, this is my thoughts, I don't think that joining Godfrey is going to save Ana. The order to kill Ana came from Cera herself which is I think someone higher up than Lorence. Joining Godfrey is just going to probably raise suspicions as Godfrey is already being arrested for helping Ana in the first place. And Lorence is far too suspicious of Ana to allow her to join at this point. If she wants to join, she'd need to convince Cera.

But Ana, I want to hear your thoughts on what Anthony's offer
and I also want you to at relay these messages to Anthony please: If I leave, please find and protect the blind woman named Laura. At this moment, the world is transitioning into a place unsuitable for pacifists, heroes, and saints like Laura, and with her forming a pact with Dreamwalker and being part of a significant battle, she is becoming a person of interest for people with malicious intent to her and Dreamwalker's life. It is best for you and your allies like Godfrey to protect her with your lives. She is more important than you realize

I wonder what Anthony will do with Dervan's business card.
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No. 950726 ID: ba3f1d

I- I...
No. 950728 ID: ba3f1d

Escape would be nice, but it’s... Not realistic. If I go then I’ll want to take people with me and they’ll want to take their people. It’s a wonderful fantasy, but...

Hey, wait a second. You do know what will happen to your voices if you go right...? Didn’t Dervan or- those other guy, tell you? Dervan knows, I saw him in a dream where you took this option. He knows what will happen to them.

They’ll fade away. Eventually they’re voices get more and more distant and soon it will seem they will disappear all together. Except they won’t, they will still be there, and... you’ll be condemning them to silence and eventual madness. I don’t even think they’ll die, they’ll be screaming for help for someone to hear them out. But no one will hear them.

So, if you go... Well I don’t blame you for wanting to go, but I don’t know if I could do that... Sometimes life is just hard, it’s unfair, and it’s cruel. But it doesn’t mean we have to accept that. We can try to make it better.
No. 950735 ID: ba3f1d

There’s always a fucking catch isn’t there...?

Well before I give my answer, Fortune what do you think? You’ve been very vocal about this.
No. 950867 ID: e51896

If I must sacrifice myself to save Ana, I will. I'm not afraid. I've already lived my life in my cycle. There is no need for me to linger on anymore. Ana surviving is our main mission after all...

And I've been thinking... is reality falling apart through "glitches" something we should truly be afraid of? I know the concept of corrupting this world to become unstable through "glitches" sounds terrifying on paper, but considering if what Lorence said is true about this being a world with no good endings with all the lives and outcomes that were lived through in mind, then what if Ana leaving to cause these "glitches" are something that needs to happen now more than ever if a new route to a good ending for this world is ever to happen? what if the "glitches" if utilized the right way and very carefully is the only way to make things better?

There is this old saying that comes to mind here, "You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs". With this in mind, there are gamers out there that exploits glitches, sometimes game breaking glitches, to get very interesting outcomes or results to help them win. There are even cases where gamers exploit glitches to achieve and discover results and secrets never thought possible (https://www.twitch.tv/vinesauce/clip/StupidBusyOtterKippa?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time)(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxz5qwmuxs4).
It is just a matter of how the person knows how to use and caculate these glitches or corruptions and how carefully they do so to lead to the results needed, like maybe a better outcome never seen before for this world for example?

Ana, if Scarred chooses you to leave, I want you to ask Anthony, if he wants, to guide and protect Laura. Ask him to get help from allies like Godfrey and his men to protect Laura once he saves Godfrey. Tell him the first thing he must do is find somebody to watch over Laura while he tries to save Godfrey's life in some way. Ask Anthony to help Laura find her father, as I feel that her journey to find her father may just lead her to decide this world's fate. Ana might not be the one to save this world, but Laura might...
...and ask him to keep Dervan's card... Matilda might need it for the trial if he is going to save Godfrey, (but only as a last resort).

...That said, Scarred, I can't make your choice for you. I already gave my answer and my reasoning, It is you who now has the final answer to this final offer. With consideration to everything you learned here through this long journey, what Ana went through, and how everyone feels in their perspectives with this choice, It is up to you to choose now, Scarred. I want you to think carefully with considerations to everything we've been through. And once you've thought of your answer, give it a little more thought to be sure you want that choice.

And Wicker Kid, the final question I'll ask you in closing as I can't shake this feeling, were you one of the six kids from that fateful Halloween Party?

No. 950870 ID: 8b660e

Alright. Here’s my thoughts on all of this.

No, we shouldn’t go. And we shouldn’t trust Dervan with this option either. If can use your own arguments against you for a moment to make you consider something. You said that we as “glitches” can be harmful to this world, and yet at the same time glitches can be used to achieve newer and better ways to win, well isn’t that exactly what we’ve doing this whole time for Ana? But that’s just the thing, we aren’t glitches and we aren’t bits of bad data. We’re people, we have thoughts and feelings and desires and wants. Our feelings are just as valid as anyone else’s, and to be thought of as otherwise is unfair. Also, what Anthony said means that somewhere even in this cosmic reality we live in, Ana took that choice, and did leave. That’s not a glitched ending then and it’s also not patching the glitches out. It’s just another ending choice and it will bring her back here in the end. We’ve essentially gained nothing and left behind all the people who trusted us now. It’s not a full solution and is essentially just putting a bandaid on much bigger wound.

I know Ana may be tired and exhausted and scared. But that’s what we are here for. We are the ones who need to be the ones to pull her through when life is tough and cruel. To leave now would defeat the entire purpose of us existing and to give up on her potential and her growth. What’s more is Wicker Kid said called her “Ana, The ever changing.” Which means she infinite potential to grow and become better to quit now would be to quit her. Ana often compares herself to you and I, but I want her to be bette than I was, and I want her to be the one who decides for herself in the end, just as much as you do. In the end all we can do is tell her our feelings and what we think is best. She decides in the end whether or not to follow through.

But as for why we can’t trust Dervan with this. It’s very clear now he was withholding that bit of information from us. He wanted that choice to look more appealing but he did so at the request of Lorence. Someone whohas made it very clear that he wants us gone at any means necessary. He would even advocate for killing someone if it meant keeping the status quo. He may be more understandable now, but that doesn’t excuse his actions as a murderer. If Dervan is willing to defend those actions for pay or other personal gain he would be willing to hurt others for those reasons as well. If I may be blunt, Dervan is a text book case of a sociopath.
A sociopath has traits that fit him like a glove. Glibness and a pathological liar, being a master manipulator, having a grandiose sense of self importance and often seeing things as “their right.” And lastly shallow emotions and lack of empathy. We cannot afford to give Ana to someone like this, I know you want her safety and her best interest, and it’s also for those same reasons I am unable to trust Dervan with this choice.
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You know I can’t actually hear Ana’s voices, but from what I gather, one of them called Dervan a sociopath? That’s kinda funny, and it sounds like he is withholding information. Especially because I never actually told anyone about the truth about that drawing, not even the person I gave it to. So my guess is you got that information from that lanky gal in the robes with spikes coming out of her back. I know she was spying on me and giving out information. So I can’t help but wonder what the connection between you two is.
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That choice must be yours to make Ana. What both of us want is for you to be confident enough to make that decision. If you do take Anthonys offer I can say that Godfrey is a good man, he was my master and who trained me.

Hmm. Fortune, wasn't Scarlet the name of one of Essence's cronies?
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