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823974 No. 823974 ID: 3b2ae4

NSFW for nudity, and possible (or most likely) casual lewds.
I’ll see where this goes. Experimental story.

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No. 897029 ID: 644ad1

What's up?
No. 897030 ID: 11f77a
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>Are they always like this?

So that’s Nick Rudder on the guitars with Robin Bhest on bass. They may look like twins but they aren’t. They’re not the best of lyricists, I know. But we’ve had so many genre changes like our band name but we mainly keep close to rock.

Unless they cover a Led Zeppelin or RHCP song again for the billionth time. Nick just wants fancy basslines from Robin to go along with his riffs but Robin wants to go his own way with his instrument. They both sing... kind of.

I don’t recognize the song.

Marlene: “Hey... boys. What song was that one called? Screwdriver?”

They look at one another like a wall of epiphany slammed into them.

They both exclaim: “That’s a perfect title!”

Robin: “You really need to write those songs for us, maaan!”

Maebe faces me, lighting a cigarette.

Maebe: “Dropping by, Marley? We were just wonderin’ about you.”

Maebe: “If you came up with any songs lately.”

She smirks, “Still, it’s nice of you to drop by and babysit the boys for me.”

>Any new songs for them?
I don’t really have a song for them.
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Marlene: “Why so eager for one? I haven’t had the motivation to write anything for days…”

Maebe: “Oh, you haven’t heard yet?”

Nick: “We have until next month to nudge in the May-4-Two’s rock roster at Steele City!”

Robin: “It’s a bar, lots of college kids go there since it’s so close to J. Euryk Institute!”

Nick: “Lots of bands stared their gigs there! Dietrich Satyr, Planet Cul-de-sac...”

Nick: “Uh…”

Robin: “No pressure but, we need a good song. A really good song. Maybe two.”

Robin: “I know you’ve been in and out of this band, that’s cool and all. But you ought to really join. Make it official.”

Nick: “Yeah.”

No. 897033 ID: d887c0

What's the gig pay? Money is a damn good motivator.
No. 897034 ID: dbf422

Okay they're already growing on me. I was worried they were gearing up for an early falling out, but clearly they're just dorks.

It's a given right? Considering what you've been thinking about recently, you really should try this. And they're saying "official" but it's not a point of no return. Just don't sign anything.

As for a song, you do have something you could use for inspiration.
No. 897040 ID: ff82d2

What is this J. Euryk Institute?

Tell them that you'll help them this time but that you ain't making anything official unless the band gets some big contract or something. Also, only if you get to decide on the style.

Even then, I'm not convinced that this is worth spending time on. It seems like this would be just you getting trapped by the nostalgia and doing something that others want rather than what you want. It doesn't feel... real.

Anyway, talk to them about how you feel and if they have any advice for you and your inspiration. Heh, let them convince you.
No. 897047 ID: b84567

Has your band thought of a ritual sacrifice motif? Big mess of bit of red makeup on the neck or chest, plus red handprints on the horns? Or has that been done/not your kind of rock? It sounds like a simple & low investment way to stand out.

Anyway, only join up if you're really willing to be working with these clowns for the next month. Let them know you'll write lyrics and sing until after the show but you really need to keep your options open here, okay? If they're understanding, I don't see a reason to say no.
No. 897052 ID: 33cbe7

Yeah? Yeah!
Just for kicks, you should write them the worst song you can think of and see how they/the audience respond. Plus an actual one, of course, but the fun will be seeing if they can tell which is which.
No. 897084 ID: 094652

Only if they're really desperate. "We-scouted-100-people-and-they-all-told-us-to-go-to-hell" desperate.
No. 899797 ID: 11f77a
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>J. Euryk Institute
It’s a nearby college campus.

>Trapped by some nostalgia?
>Is it worth spending time on?
>Are you willing to work with these clowns?
>Unofficial or no?
It’s a hard decision to make. Even though they’re my friends who get along well—I seem to feel uneasy about a commitment. Then again, I need to occupy my time and start small. I don’t have the motivation for a novel, but a song here and there could be a good exercise. I don’t know if they mean ‘official’ official. But to start spending more time here in their garage studio.

>Ritual sacrifice motif
Absolutely not.
No. 899799 ID: 11f77a
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Marlene: “Are we paid for this? Or is it some battle of the bands where you have to enter with a fee?”

Nick: “Nah we just play in front of someone who will decide whether we make it on the list. Then we are paid!”

Robin: “Unless you’re locally famous.”

Nick: “We—don’t really know anyone else, Marley. I mean, we could send some flyers out but, you seem to have the talent.”

>Keep options open
>Decide on a rock style
>Only if they’re really desperate
I suppose I could make a list of demands, something we could set straight before I begin… a rock genre change, for sure.

Marlene: “Alright boys, I think I’ll help you out on a song. But there’s a few changes I’d like to make~”

Guess it’s time for some demands. I think I could get away with some things at least.
No. 899800 ID: 33cbe7

We're gonna be a glam rock band. Time to make everyone fabulous! (And it'll distract from their singing if it's that bad.)
No. 899826 ID: 8cb228

Well, let's think this through. What is their nominal style? What have they branched out to do in experimenting? If we're messing with things, we don't wanna branch too far, gotta keep any existing skills relevant. What music types do they like? What music types or songs are they best at, even if they don't like them, in the sense of working together as a band? What are their individual skills best at, even if it doesn't mess well with the group?

I mean, based on your dreams and imagery, if you can make poems and songs and such based on those, you'd probably work best as one of the many styles based on psychedelic rock. Cause it sure was a psychedelic dream. You know, jam bands, progressive rock, neo-progressive rock, etc. You know, arty stuff that isn't JUST songs about love, lust, and loss. The problem with that is getting your own distinct sound and style, rather than just playing covers.

Hmmm, in a related set of questions. Do you think you can describe the feeling of that euphoria in music? How about make up something fanciful about that bad experience at the end, when you were in a lab or some shit. Then spin a musical story about your attempted escape from said lab. Shit, think you could come up with the core of a progressive album that's a high-minded, pink floyd type meditation on reality in album format from that dream?
No. 899837 ID: dbf422

I know little of music styles but the idea of basing the stuff off the unique perspective of dreams is interesting. And if you want to use it as an outlet for writing, leave it open to a sequel song or a universe you could eventually make a full LP (ambitious, but whatever) out of.

Anyway, other demands are that you are going to be here on a probationary basis. You'll see through this event then you'll see.

Then you could have it that creative differences should go through you and they can't let those disagreements become personal. I mean, that's a hell of a sell, but there is a serious need for organization, and you can couch it as more of an advisor role. Especially if you mean it. That said, this maybe should wait until you decide whether or not you're here to stay. Could be a bargaining chip there too.
No. 899861 ID: 0edf1b

>Absolutely not.
Aww, but Satanic Panic is great! And also my only idea!

What was that genre you wanted to go into that everyone else was tentative about? Acid rock? Punk? Psychadelic? IDFK. Convince them to take the plunge.

And don't feel pressured to include your dream as part of the song. If you can barely remember it using it for inspiration is just going to drive you mad.
No. 899917 ID: ff82d2

Since they don't have a keyboard, the choice of rock style is quite limited and I don't know enough about rock music that I'd be able to suggest anything other than hard rock or punk rock. But isn't this already their current style? Meh.

Hugs. You require hugs and love to function properly.
No. 899936 ID: 8cb228

Ohhh yea. Good point. They need to get a Keyboardist to broaden the potential rock styles away from just hard rock or punk rock and related sounds. Do you all know one?
No. 900167 ID: 11f77a
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>Creative differences?
>What have they branched out to do in experimenting?
Marlene: “What can you guys do, anyway? It’s been a while since I heard your music than whatever I just walked into.”

Nick: “We could be a punk band! It’s what we’ve been experimenting on. We know how to be loud and get that energy out.”

Robin: “Or maybe industrial! Nothing crisp but nice guitar-fuzz ambience that Nick can play. And Maebe on the drums to make the place echo.”

Nick: “Or experimental math rock, somehow make our own sound and odd time signatures!”

Robin: “Or gay church indie folk rock!”

Nick: “What?”

Robin: “Huh?”

Nick: “Uh… maybe alternative rock, then? 90’s oriented? Maybe early 2000s. Hard rock perhaps? I’ve been getting into desert rock lately.”

>Describe feeling of euphoria in music
>Base on styles such as psychedelic rock/art rock/Pink Floyd
That’s a good area on how to describe what I felt in the dream. I would even go into ‘Shoegaze’ which may require some technical skills (and perhaps lots of foot pedals). But a soft voice could work best there if anyone had to sing. The boys are capable to play similarly to Siversun Pickups or Smashing Pumpkins.

>Need a Keyboard/ist
Marlene: “Do we have a keyboard?”

Robin: “My brother has one somewhere. I could bring it in. Mom would make us have piano lessons as kids. But I was born to shred.”

Nick: “On a bass?”

Robin: “You could do a lot more on a bass guitar than a regular one, you know!”

Marlene: “Maybe we could hire someone in time for the show.”

So we have a nice range and the boys aren’t too difficult to learn something new. Sounds like I’ll propose a blend of psychedelic rock, progressive, shoegazing art rock type thing to go on. I wonder if there’s anything else I could consider — other than the idea that I’ll be around on a probationary basis. I could organize with Maebe and a few dweebs.

If this works out maybe I can just be a song writer for a career. That’s wouldn’t be so bad, would it?
No. 900182 ID: 33cbe7

Hmm, yup, yep, those were all words. Sounds good.
Join your bandmates for a good old fashioned jam session.
No. 900189 ID: dbf422

Organizing with Maebe and a few dweebs sounds great.
No. 900192 ID: 094652

Pick a generic class, hone your progression in it, pick another class, hone your progression. Don't just jump into a hybrid style unless you know the components.

Songwriting is better than nothing, might as well pad your resume.
No. 900213 ID: 8cb228

Sounds good. This is a nice creative outlet, and that kind of music is creative as hell. It'd be a nice way to grow creatively, and to assimilate any weird dreams or other experiences you might have. They've certainly experimented with different styles enough.

Ask what they think of songs and albums that tell a story? Would that be fun, or is it too pretentious for their tastes?

See if they have any profound stories to tell, and then share your idea of interpreting a dream you had through music. Maybe even your musings on levels of reality.

Like, you're not crazy -- the waking world you find yourself in is the real world. But, for argument's sake, what if it wasn't?

Various transcendentalists and spiritualists throughout history have claimed that the world we find ourselves in is not the most real one. The movie The Matrix simply described these spiritual concepts in the first mainstream method that was really big in pop culture. Science has recently gotten in on the action too with the ancestor simulation hypothesis.

Let's say one of these ideas -- that people are in vats being plugged into some sort of virtual reality to test who knows what (the original plot for the Matrix had people's brains be processors, don't ya know. Not that computers would NEED to do that, which is where analyzing the story breaks down), or what if everyone is a computer simulation run by their far descendants, which they might actually have a reason to do, or what if there was some spiritual world that was more real than the one we find ourselves in.

If any of those were true, then what? What would change? How would you behave? What promises should someone make to themselves in preparation? What would it look like to get a glimpse of the other world?

Heady stuff, but fun to talk about over a beer or two. Also maybe fun to come up with a few sequential scenes about someone's awakening and escape, then maybe a few outlines to some songs associated with each core emotion/thought of those scenes.
No. 900214 ID: 8cb228

Ohhh! There ARE Progressive metal bands. No need to stray from being 'hard' or 'heavy', just because it's arty or tells a story. Tool is a good example of one of those. Maybe something like that?
No. 900283 ID: ff82d2

>psychedelic rock, progressive, shoegazing art rock type thing
This seems alright, yeah.

Or post-progressive queercore :P
No. 900934 ID: 11f77a
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>Pick a generic class, hone your progression
Well as much as I would like to make a whole story about it, I suppose I’ll just start with the feeling—or the concept. But like you’ve said yourself it’s pretty heavy, but something to think about over a beer (or even during the week).

Marlene: “Well boys, I believe we should go in the direction of Psychedelic Rock! Perhaps towards Shoegaze in the noughties and less Stoner Rock from the seventies.”

Marlene: “I feel my lyrics would best be suited for that sound.”

Robin: “Hmm, I think I can dig that. Could you?”

Nick: “Don’t think I’ve dipped into it, but I’ll try. What about you, Maebe?”

Maebe shrugs, spinning sticks.

Marlene: “And I just want to tag along for the ride. I’ll help you guys out here and there. I’m still undecided what I want to do for the next chunk of my life.”

They seem to understand, with Robin looking through the house for a keyboard. I can stay for a while and write as they play.
No. 900935 ID: 11f77a
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Well I guess I now need a theme, a concept for the first song; something to hang on to for now. I can always change it later, but what should it be? (You may write some bits and pieces of lyrics, or rhymes if you please. Conceptual, allusions, or descriptions.)

A) The Feeling. The senses drive to true euphoria.
B) The Place. Like a sanctuary, such an idea of escapism and nostalgia. Perhaps the thrill of a new experience.
C) The Reality. Dreams within reach, yet too far. Neutral, but teeters from somber thoughts to small acts of hope.
D) The Nightmare. Ramblings of a mad goat, a warning to dreamers.
E) Something else entirely

F) Work later, visit Silenus Industries; the Movie Production company.
No. 900936 ID: 33cbe7

A. Start at the beginning of the mystery.
No. 900938 ID: d887c0

A. Gotta run with your gut on this, so follow your heart.
No. 900942 ID: ff82d2

No. 900960 ID: dbf422

C. You could get there, with just a little luck.
No. 901202 ID: 5a65f4

A. That first feeling is where you start.
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No. 1054264 ID: 11f77a
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That impact of silence hits me like a brick wall. It’s like sleeping in class and noticing everyone stopped talking at once. The makeshift and distorted noise from their instruments have ceased and now they’re staring at me.

Nick: Yo. Our music must really suck to put you to sleep in the middle of our jam.

Robin: We’ve been playing for twenty minutes before we realized you dozed. You cool?
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Marlene: Oh... I’m sorry, guys. It wasn’t—

Marlene: Well maybe it was part of why I dozed off.

Marlene: I dunno what happened. I was beginning to think about how my dreams felt to me.

Marlene: And something about it that... I was within reach of it again...

The boys stare at me waiting for a conclusion but I got nothing.

Marlene: That’s it. That’s all I have.
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Robin: Well, what have you got written down anyway?

Eeeeh, crap. Scribbles.

I dunno. Maybe I’ll work on the words another day... or something. I feel so tired right now... I guess I don’t like forcing myself to think, and only think in the moment.

Unfortunately ‘in the moment’ means never having a notepad ready to write it down, ever.

All eyes watching and waiting for me to do something...
I may just move on to Silenus Industries in a moment.
No. 1054267 ID: e7c7d3

Can't force creativity. Go ahead with Silenus
No. 1054269 ID: a7a180

Have a notepad by your bed, the best ideas always come as you're trying to sleep.
Maybe you can use the fact that the meaning keeps slipping from your grasp. Time keeps on slipping, into the future...
No. 1054317 ID: 15a025

Sometimes it's better to let the pencil do the thinking, just relax and let it move where it feels natural.
No. 1054350 ID: e51896

No. 1054530 ID: 11f77a
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>Can’t force creativity
Yeah. Sucks it’s never easy. I gather my shit and stand up.

Maebe: On the road again, then?

Marlene: Uh-huh, sorry guys. I may want to bounce before it’s too late. I was just stopping by after all. I’ll try visiting more often; the battle-of-the-bands thing sounds like I could stay occupied with something.

Robin: Steele City!

Marlene: Sure. That. I’ll try to write at home whenever I’m in the mood. You guys should just play around with shoegaze or dream pop. Email me some riffs.

Nick: No pressure! We could be instrumental if it doesn’t work out for you.

Maebe: Oh please, instrumental would be great.

I wave and head out. I’ll need to take a bus again but they come around periodically in the city.

>Have a notepad by your bed […]
There’s a small drawer where I keep a few reading books. If I remember I ought to place a notebook there before bed.
No. 1054531 ID: 11f77a
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Well here we are.

Silenus Industries.

It’s a low-brand film studio in the corner of the city. It’s no Hollywood, but if you get your foot in the door you may have a chance to make it a lasting career.

I used to work here just after dropping out of college with Seb. I was only a secretary, but I got to learn little things about the studio. Things were looking up in the beginning until I hit a wall.

Maybe it was after so many rejected scripts. Perhaps that was only part of it. I dunno. Something killed it for me. I just don’t know what. That’s the life of any writer I s’pose.

I hang out with some of the writers inside--maybe they have something interesting to refresh my creativity. I typically know the best days to stop by too so I can just slip in like I still work there.
No. 1054532 ID: 11f77a
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Ah, good. It’s Lars as security this evening. He catches me as he drinks his coffee.

Lars: Oh, hey Marlene. Uh, what’re you up to today?
No. 1054533 ID: a7a180

Oh, you know, the usual.
No. 1054547 ID: cd4366

oh horseshit, "can't force creativity," that's a mantra for the terminally burnt out. You sometimes HAVE to, otherwise you lose the habit and it becomes harder to start again.

Don't you remember what it was like when you were first learning, when you didn't know shit about story structure or even consistent punctuation? It was still just as much a slog, you just had more energy for it because you believed in it!

You don't have to write a masterpiece, you just have to write _something._ a short story about someone enjoying a sunny day, or a goofy sci-fi thing about a spaceman encountering god, who cares! Let it be a bit shit and you'll find some flow again, then you can start back up the polishing.

Anyways, as for what you're doing today, see if you can't find one of the working writers and ask what advice they have for getting something approved.
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>Don’t you remember what it was like when you were first learning […] You don’t have to write a masterpiece, you just have to write something
Ugh... but it really isn’t that simple though! No one starts with story structure or grammar when they first learn to write--they start with an idea. At a young age it could be ‘action scenes and explosions that would be awesome’ and over a lifetime it becomes ‘how can I interpret the concern, sorrow, or anger I feel’.

Maybe, with this funk I’m in--I really feel nothing. Well--I teared up at Brook’s Clove--but was that sadness? Was that confusion?

I can’t let my mind wander into that right now. I answer Lars.

Marlene: Uhm, nothing important! Nice to see you, Lars.

Lars: Mmhm. A bit chilly today. I’ll be stuck in this ice box tonight.

Marlene: Was gonna say you’re drink that coffee a bit late. Heh.

Lars: Ee-Yep.

>See if you can’t find one of the working writers and ask [for] advice
Marlene: Well I suppose that’s it, nothing much exciting on my end.

Marlene: I’m hoping to talk to my friends for some advice so, I’ll see you around.
No. 1054857 ID: 11f77a
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I walk towards the boom gate. Lars gets a bit jittery to stop me and say something--his arm holds out even though I’m not close.

Lars: Eh—wait! Marley! Sorry but...I don’t think you can come in.

Marlene: You don’t think?

Lars: I meant--I can’t let you inside unless you’re an employee now. The bosses don’t really want you strolling in anymore.
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Marlene: What kind of bullshit is that? People know me in there. Why would the higher ups give a shit where I go?

Lars: Well—it’s not you specifically. I-I didn’t mean it like that. Security is being chewed out and someone’s bound to be fired the next time someone makes the wrong call.

Lars: I don’t want them to think I’ll let anybody in. Sorry, but you either show an employee ID or keep walking.

Lars: I would be fine for you to chill here but no soliciting either.

Marlene: I’m not a whore, dummy.

Lars: I just don’t want to have to make a scene!

Goddammit. Lars is usually a chill guy but I guess the higher-ups have made some impending changes to staff. Really fucking sucks that I came all this way for nothing.
No. 1054864 ID: 15c72a

You can't go in? Doesn't mean people can't come out. Or talk to you via phone. Tell him who you want to see, so that they can contact you in some way.
No. 1054906 ID: a758c7

yeah, there's gotta be someone we can talk to. just don't make too much of a scene, we don't wanna get Lars in trouble for something he can't really control.

aaaaaaand since he said we could wait, no reason not to wait! maybe ask lars about the new management? why are they so persnickety about this shit?
No. 1054960 ID: 15a025

Sounds like an incident or something might have caused this change of policy. Maybe you or Lars could call one of your buddies and let them know you're at the gate looking for them.
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